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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Eden club is a little too much for me, I have tried it twice adn while the ladies are really good at what they do, it is all a little too pornographic for my shy ego :D
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From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim]From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).
Slim[/QUOTE]
For me, there are several problems at Eden.
The first is lacking in really pretty girls.
The second is that girls are doing a business and are a bit too business procedural. They get well paid to put up with all types of things. But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. Or maybe I didn't get the best girls. I reckon it would be "fakeness" and lack of chemistry that puts Nic off too.
I wasn't very friendly in the line up and they took exception to me asking the names of the ones I was interested in.
Tulip could easily be just the same, but I get a different feeling there. Although the girl has duties to perform, I allow her more latitude to do what turns her on and she doesn't have to put on an act with me. Yok, for example, really seems to enjoy what she is doing. Its much more go with the flow.
The Tulip lineup is much more friendly in style, once you go downstairs.
If I can tell the girl is fake and putting on an act, I would find a different girl. I like more natural interaction even though its financial transaction.
Did guys ever experience taking a young inexperienced girl for LT, and then have her keep waking you up through the night wanting another round of sex. Perhaps she never had much good sex before??? or just real horny.
Its something special when there is clearly no act and the girl is really enjoying the sex. This is possible very often in Thailand, but rare back home where hookers are just far too business like.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]For me, there are several problems at Eden.
The first is lacking in really pretty girls.
The second is that girls are doing a business and are a bit too business procedural. They get well paid to put up with all types of things. But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. Or maybe I didn't get the best girls. I reckon it would be "fakeness" and lack of chemistry that puts Nic off too.
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I still go to Eden once in a while because the girls are talented and can always get me off. I agree with Mick that it is too "procedural". They follow a program. The girls are ok looking, not great. My experienece is that they never get wet, never get off and do not enjoy the sex ..it is just a job. So i agree with Mick. Their pussies are also loose. I think all this is because they fuck all day long and it has just lost it's magic. Eden girl's oral skills and attitude are great, though.
Like Mick, I also like the girls that are really into the sex. I am more likely to find this is they are new to the game or if they only have a few customers a month. I have had both good looking girls and plain girls that got wet and orgasmed but find the plain girls more likely to get off. Treating them nice (like a girlfriend) complimenting them and listening seems to bring out the best in them. A surprising number of ladies really get off on the sex. I am young looking and reasonably attractive. Best places I have found for this are Pattaya and Singapore. Worst places are BKK and Kuala Lumpur.
EB
Does anyone know anything about the upscale private clubs like Soprano House? I have been there before but could not figure out what was available, where, and for how much.
If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.
Please let me know your thoughts.
[quote=goyave]i think that you can add at least [url="http://www.lolitasbangkok.com"][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url][/url] (the other famous bj bar in sukhumvit soi 8) to you list, nicfrenchy. i've been there several times and have always been very satisfied so far. [/quote]
hi goyave,
i will never go back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).
another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off!
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I have heard of this place however if I were you I would proceed with extreme caution. I have heard it is a very trendy Hi-so Hangout so:
1. Farangs are tolerated but not really welcome
2. If you just go as to "talk" with the wrong girl, you can end up in a coffin
[QUOTE=Nvslim]From your reports, you are the last person I thought I would ever hear that from :-).
Slim[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm not a shy guy but having not only 1 girl but 2 girls scream "fuck my ass baby" is not appealing to me at all.
I like my sex to be gentle and sensual, maybe I am a romantic at heart :D
[quote=nicfrenchy]hi goyave,
i will never go back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).
another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off![/quote]wow! that's indeed weird. i am a bit surprised but you must have more recent information than i have. i only once barfined a girl from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bangkok. at that time (four years ago if i am not mistaken) it was only 600 baht for 3 hours (i don't know how much it was for a lt session though) and 600 baht was also the normal rate for one bj on premises. this girl was sweet and funny and we talked a bit together between two shots during this 3 hour session in my hotel room and she was (apparently) quite happy to work there (i don't know how many hours a day it was then, but she used to arrive only at 5pm and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] closing at 1am, it could not have been more than 8 hours, i guess). she told me that she had one day-off a week (yes, that's approximately 4 days a month).
of course, i've been there regularly since but have not barfined anyone nor have talked much with the girls then, therefore, i can't say what the current situation is at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and you certainly are better informed than i am. i'd really like to know more about the scam going on there if you can enlighten me one of these days.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]But its all rather fake and I its too obvious they are just acting. .....Tulip could easily be just the same, but I get a different feeling there. [/QUOTE]
I'll also agree that Eden is too fake for me but it has a special place in BKK and mongering circles. It is still a place I think everyone should do once in their life. Tulip... while some girls can be fake as anything there are some girls that are just good at what they do. So I don't put Tulip in the same league as Eden. Tulip can be PSE with some GFE as well mixed in. With the right girl of course. How many complaints about Tulip girls or negative reports are there??? Not many I would assume.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Did guys ever experience taking a young inexperienced girl for LT, and then have her keep waking you up through the night wanting another round of sex. Perhaps she never had much good sex before??? or just real horny.
Its something special when there is clearly no act and the girl is really enjoying the sex. [/QUOTE]
Damn Mick were you in the room with me and the GF??? In other words yes exactly... the sexual chemistry was just perfect from the first night and only got better over time.... In fact it was so good I'm still keeping her around ;) And the reasons she's still around is what you said above... There was no act and after time we got to know each other more about other things other then just sex. So she's still in my phonebook and still see her of course...
[QUOTE=Eric Burden]Like Mick, I also like the girls that are really into the sex. I am more likely to find this is they are new to the game or if they only have a few customers a month. I have had both good looking girls and plain girls that got wet and orgasmed but find the plain girls more likely to get off. Treating them nice (like a girlfriend) complimenting them and listening seems to bring out the best in them. [/QUOTE]
I will agree for me also that some of the best sex I've had are with girls that are not "superstars"... girls that have few customers or girls that are more shy (less english abilities or such). I found that girls that sit in corners or away from customers (but will look and smile at you of course but are shy to come talk to you) and are not pushing themselves all over you usually are the better sex for me. YMMV but I don't need a girl who is all pushy and quick and business like...
[quote=nicfrenchy]hi goyave,
i will never go back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. not after what the owners and mamasans do to these girls. there is a big scam going on there where the mamasan scams the girls (i might write about it one day).
another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, no days are allowed off! considering they have a 3000b barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! i like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off![/quote]
ok, so you're not going back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s because the girls are treated mean by the mammasan, have to blow every john who comes in the door, and won't get a day off this month. so how is your behavior going to help the girls?
i agree, it's not a pleasant situation, but i think it's better for the girls that you go. you will get a nice blowjob and they will get some much needed money during the holiday season -- a win win proposition. :)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...Another weird and slightly unpleasant fact is that, this month, these girls don't have any holiday! Usually they'll get the standard bargirl 4 days a month but, this month, NO days are allowed off! Considering they have a 3000B barfine - which is so unpayable that they're bound to be working 9 hour days with no choice in refusing customers either... that's a bit much! I like blowjobs but you've got to give the girls some days off![/QUOTE]
Nic,
I agree that the owners are merciless and it's a bit much. Scams of course are bad and it would be good to hear about them.
It's supposed to be the peak season, so I believe all places are trying to maximize their revenue, so compulsory working days or some sort of special rules everywhere. All girls must work on weekends, for example, at Luxury.
This is the time when your regular will love you for seeing her outside. She makes the same money but only servicing one customer, gets to take things easy, may be a meal or two thrown in.
fly
[quote=daddy07]ok, so you're not going back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s because the girls are treated mean by the mammasan, have to blow every john who comes in the door, and won't get a day off this month. so how is your behavior going to help the girls?
i agree, it's not a pleasant situation, but i think it's better for the girls that you go. you will get a nice blowjob and they will get some much needed money during the holiday season -- a win win proposition. :)[/quote]
if there was a really special girl there, maybe support her.
but only ugly girls are willing to put up with the conditions. i won't be going back again even though unaware of what nic was referring to.
the girls don't get too enjoy themselves and that spoils my mood too. some of them don't even take their cloths off.
at sol, can bf the girl cheaply, then she can decide if she wants to go back or have the rest of the day off.
A lot of people inquired about the girl I took for 3,000 LT @ shark Bar : Miss Jib #90.
Had a great time with her but was too long ago to write a review. Maybe I'll go see her again but, she is a very popular girl.
[QUOTE=Goyave]Wow! That's indeed weird. I am a bit surprised but you must have more recent information than I have.[/quote]
It's not recent, it has been going on for some time. Don't get nervous, the scam is on the girls, not the customers. You still get blown for 700.
[quote]I'd really like to know more about the scam going on there if you can enlighten me one of these days.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to publicly post it here but if you are curious, drop me a PM
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]Does anyone know anything about the upscale private clubs like Soprano House? I have been there before but could not figure out what was available, where, and for how much.
If you are into the music, it is definitely a cool place to check out. The girls are 9-10's but I don't know if they are available and if they are if their prices are ridiculous.
Please let me know your thoughts.[/QUOTE]
I recommend the Pegagus Club.