Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=ArisCasa;2306367]You should take a VIP room from next time. No booze no smoke no other bar patrons no body standing in front of you. Only you.[/QUOTE]Smoking in bars is banned in Thailand.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2306538]Just wondering what game beyond appearing professional and polite[/QUOTE]If this is what having game is limited to. Because not "beyond" this. The bar is low when it comes to "having game".

But this subject has run its course, well I suppose not in the Bangkok section.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2306542]He low balled a top Thermae girl for LT. He was offered 6 k and countered with 4 k. I know my Thermae girls wouldn't do LT for 4 k. What are you paying a top looking Thermae girl for ST / LT?[/QUOTE]I don't bother targeting top looking girls in a venue. I say so repeatedly in my posts.

If the only goal and victory to be had with your top looking girls is to pay their asking price in order to be seen walking out with them, then yeah no point in employing any game including coming across professional and polite. No doubt about it, there is no game required on the punter's part to achieve that. I have repeated that point as well. With punters like that the girl has already won all the chips in the game.

But there was no indication a word was said about how many pops, as a result of what acts, not even how Long is a LT for her.

Only asking "How much?" and walking away when the numbers don't match is pretty lousy game even if accompanied by an effort to appear professional and polite. It is fine for buying a shirt at Robinsons though. So there is no chance she would have accepted 5000 for 1 pop in a 6 hour LT? Of course, if he is not applying minimal game to even try that he will never know.

[QUOTE=IMembr;2306558]If this is what having game is limited to. Because not "beyond" this. The bar is low when it comes to "having game".

But this subject has run its course, well I suppose not in the Bangkok section.[/QUOTE]The bar is low. And, as described, the Indian guy barely reached it. And he isn't the only one.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2306538]Just wondering what game beyond appearing professional and polite, which is more game than many wishful but failed punters employ, were you expecting him to exhibit? Pulling a rabbit out of his hat with a Lexus key dangling from its mouth?

And how do you know she wouldn't have given him the worst LT in Bkk history even if he had agreed to pay her the 6000 baht and if she had agreed to walk out with him? Of course, those are big "if"s I suspect she knew were not going to happen that night anyway.[/QUOTE]I just stated my observation. My point of view has always been that you don't need any game in P4P seen. Off course being a freak or weirdo would set you back. And price of any goods or services in an unregulated market is what a buyer is willing to pay for it. So for some it may be 6000 b, and for some it is 4000 b.

Om a different note, made a fool of myself yesterday. Had a TF girl visits me at 9 pm. She left just before midnight and I took a nap, woke up at 3 am. Now I am staying at soi 11 so thought may be will go out for a walk. Did a lap south toward NEP and then doubled back toward Thermae. A few cope around talking to girls. Now while I was coming back was approached by 2 girls. Picked one for 1000 be st. She asked taxi fare and I said if you are good. 5 min later we are at hotel reception and receptionist gives me that look and ask you OK sir? I said yes OK. Why shouldn't I. And she says, this is Mr. And I am holy shit, no of course I ak not OK. LB says I have operation, have pussy. But too freaked out now. Gave her 100 b taxi fare and sent her on away. All signs were probably there, I was just stupid or had my guards down. Hotel reception earned a half bottle of Bacardi in gratitude.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2306556]Smoking in bars is banned in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yes I know that. But rarely enforced. One can understand a smoke free bar. But expecting an alcohol free bar, no drunk guys or guys standing between you and the stage? That's the funny part. If a bar doesn't sell alcohol, what do they expect to do business on?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2306466]WrongGuy, no game is needed in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]Try telling that to MonkeyPaw. He seems to think it's very important to have game.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2306613]Try telling that to MonkeyPaw. He seems to think it's very important to have game.[/QUOTE]The Indian man in question probably had a strong feeling there is no way he would get anything worth more than 4000 for LT with that girl. If not worth much less than that.

Look at it this way, if a professional looking man of almost any ethnicity, but especially an Indian man in Thailand, really thought the only thing standing in his way from enjoying top quality real sex into the night and more in the morning with one of the best looking girls in Thermae was the equivalent of less than $65 USD, he doesn't have a grasp of reality and a calculator. Forget game.

But if after facing her up close he well understood the "sex", if you can call it that, with one of the best looking girls in Thermae would likely be crap and overpriced at 1000 baht, then his best game play was when he walked away without wasting more of his time and breath.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2306048]Although I consider your reply as an attach it didn't work. I have fucked some pleasantly plumb ladies, and they really appreciate it. Some of the best fucks I have ever had. I'm talking about 65 K max, but sweet and soft.

Don't close the door to any new experiences. Short of fucking African, LB's or Post Opp's, I've tried them all. It's attitude that counts, the best fucks are the girls with great attitudes, the ones that like to play and be naughty. Love Them all.

RL.[/QUOTE]I'm fucking chubbies too. And ladyboys.

My point was: It might be true that it doesn't matter how big or small a cock is in terms of physical stimulation. But it certainly does matter for many in terms of psychological stimulation. Same as it doesn't matter in terms of physical stimulation whether a pussy is one of a fat, slim or midget girl, it certainly does matter for many in terms of psychological stimulation.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2306542]He low balled a top Thermae girl for LT. He was offered 6 k and countered with 4 k. I know my Thermae girls wouldn't do LT for 4 k. What are you paying a top looking Thermae girl for ST / LT?[/QUOTE]Real Thermae "freelancers" shy away from LT not only because its more efficient for them to make their dollars for ST (some can do multiple guys in 1 night).

But.

The actual freelancers also have real jobs. And perhaps live with their families, which means they cannot be out all night and or don't want to be questioned as to their whereabouts.

If you want LT, it gets easier on a weekend, particularly Sat night.

[QUOTE=Catire;2306676]Real Thermae "freelancers" shy away from LT not only because its more efficient for them to make their dollars for ST (some can do multiple guys in 1 night).

But.

The actual freelancers also have real jobs. And perhaps live with their families, which means they cannot be out all night and or don't want to be questioned as to their whereabouts.

If you want LT, it gets easier on a weekend, particularly Sat night.[/QUOTE]Another reason they don't like LT is their Thai boyfriend is waiting at home for her to return with money for him that she earned that night and to give her a good fucking.

Went yesterday to twisters, place looked quite empty and dull also the doorman was kinda rude. Girls almost 30 of them hardly danced or made any eye contact. What a let down. Planning to go to rainbow 4 today.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2306755]Another reason they don't like LT is their Thai boyfriend is waiting at home for her to return with money for him that she earned that night and to give her a good fucking.[/QUOTE]Good? With all 3 inches of rock hard butt punisher?

[QUOTE=Catire;2306676]The actual freelancers also have real jobs. And perhaps live with their families, which means they cannot be out all night and or don't want to be questioned as to their whereabouts..[/QUOTE]I've been frequenting the Thermae quite a few nights over the past 2 months and this is the mix of FL's I would categorize them into:

Full time (there literally every night till 1. 30 am) - 50%.

Full time (try their luck early in the evening before moving onto clubs / other venues) - 20%.

Part time (go to thermae when they need the $ but no regular / full time day job) - 20%.

Part time (regular girls with day jobs) - 10%.

This is based on my observations, my experiences with a number of Thermae girls along with feedback from a few friends and some info garned from a few of the girls themselves. It seems like the girls like representing to guys that they also hold down a regular day job rather than saying they're full time FLs. There also appears to be some structure in the bar with regards to where the girls stand. You will commonly see the same bunch of girls standing in the same spots. I spoke to one girl who was standing in the stairwell area (near the toilets) and asked her why she was there and not in the main bar and she replied that it was her first night there and this was were the newbies would start out until they made some friends / alliances.

[QUOTE=Catire;2306676]Real Thermae "freelancers" shy away from LT not only because its more efficient for them to make their dollars for ST (some can do multiple guys in 1 night).

But.

The actual freelancers also have real jobs. And perhaps live with their families, which means they cannot be out all night and or don't want to be questioned as to their whereabouts.

If you want LT, it gets easier on a weekend, particularly Sat night.[/QUOTE]I think for places like Thermae, lets take the pretense away. This place exist for one ans only reason which is girls get to sell their wares om their own terms. But they are there to sell, like all other shops or kiosks. We normally don't engage in too much small talk while buying a shirt, so may be a Hello, and how are you is enough before asking how much.

Now these girls are essentially selling their time, which is a perishable commodity. They can't sell today what they couldn't sell yesterday, and all these girls very well know it. So they may be reluctant to do LT at 8 pm but come 12.30 pm, I think they all will be seriously considering it, throw in no customer for whole night or small room with a roommate, no A/C, taxi not willing to go where they live etc etc. Any one of these reason is enough to make them consider LT. Went to Hillary 2 last week with a mate. He wanted to take a girl back to hotel, she was a little hesitant, he mentioned breakfast in bed and deal was done.

Then there is nothing like low balling, it is all matter of opinion, some people will always be willing to pay more than others for same product / service. Everyone has his own scale to measure and if one feels that something is worth considerably more or less he will price it accordingly.