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[QUOTE=Frank11;2456556]Really, why would the prices increase? Practically everyone has been out of work. Would they have spare money to pay more? Plus the few girls who don't raise their prices they will probably get all the customers who don't see it necessary to pay more.[/QUOTE]Healthworkers and people in specific industries were indeed displaced, but most of those will have their jobs back eventually. The majority of those who were out of work were poor people. And Sp don't care about them. Granted, I'm sure some people have taken a hit in the stock market or thereabouts, but not enough to be unable to afford mongering. All in all, I imagine they are raising rates for the same reason they always do. Opportunity.
-Johns have been deprived for months.
-Regulars are addicted.
-No girls hate more money.
-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.
-The world is in chaos. In times of uncertainty, I believe people want stability and safety more than ever. If this means paying a but more to seehave a hassle free GFE, it will be justifiable, albeit not wanted.
Given the above, it seems like there is no better time to jack up prices than right now. Besides, if raised prices fail to garner the amount of wanted business, it's simple enough for the indy to reduce them anew. I suspect many will be forced to implement "specials" at some point, whereas others might bow out entirely. I'm not sure the agencies can as easiky reduce their prices. In any event, I gurantee there will be an overflow of girls in the months to come. It remains to be seen what, if any influence the border being closed, and a chunk of the girls business via tours and travels being gone does.
For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase!
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[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2456884]-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.[/QUOTE]I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.
In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.
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[QUOTE=Hacsek;2456758]Like you I was banned on the green board also for shilling of all things for someone who had stopped working 2 weeks before, so it seems you cannot say nice things about someone who deserves it.
Mods on that board seem to think they are homicide detectives and it has gone to their head.[/QUOTE]They are very goofy blokes. I'm guessing if you met them, they are odd, insular and way to serious about their role. They do not like feedback. If you try to question them about the moderating in a polite way, they will penalize you for that and target you beyond that.
ISG mods are generally cool. No issues here.
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[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2456884]For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase![/QUOTE]True! And for US citizen 100 $ US is as of today 134 $ CDN (pretty good discount).
The biggest game changer in the Montreal scene for the past year or so is Twitter. Even for some agency girl many now have a presence on Twitter. The latest agency girl I have seen (back in January / February) the session and booking was made directly via twitter. It's a nice way to prepare the session and get a good real view of the girl (much better then photoshop agency pics.).
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[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2456543] I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault.
[/QUOTE]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.
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Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.
[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2456976]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2457028]Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.[/QUOTE]I would reckon. They ain't at all happy we out here talkin'. You boys best be careful when you're in their town. They the law over the border and don't you boys forget it.
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2456976]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.[/QUOTE]Haha I did read you often over there.
The thing is I have never really had issues with them before. They did delete quite a lot of my post but who cares. I ran the sp of the year contest for 2 years and they did not interfere at all. It's their board and I do not want to judge them. Just pissed they banned me haha It's too bad for their users as I was providing a lot of info and reviews. As opposed to so many that suck info out of that board without never contributing or sharing their info.
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I will find the provider with the fair prices not the highest prices and give her all my money. Everyone is free to set the price, but is usually the competitive prices that win not the higher prices. Unemployment hasn't Been this high since the Great Depression. And the world bank predict a further recession. I'm not sure people are ready to appreciate someone that is hiking up the prices at this moment. I'm really glad I'm not addicted to women. Seriously, I I just go to porn hub in half an hour later I have a big smile across my face.
Yeah and the green forum apparently has a secret Abusive police censoring and deleting everyone's posts. It happened to me too.
It's good to have good rules. Like one thing that kinda sucks is when people say mean thing about the girls. but also allowing people to present their opinions in a polite manner is a valuable resource. As mentioned previously,It's kind of mean to ban a member after he has contributed so much the forum. That is just sad. Isn't there a better way to solve these problems? plus what kind of community Doesn't allow different points of views? The green form definitely has room for improvement.
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[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2457028]Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.[/QUOTE]I hope they do. They could learn a thing or two.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456933]I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.
In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.[/QUOTE]I can't really attest to the veracity of any covid infected suffering permanent damage, since there's conflicting data. Likewise, I am skeptical that it's already possible to predict such long consequences. That said, I do believe more than a few escorts in Montreal may believe Covid is a danger to them. The media has done a pretty good job of scaring people.
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Girls have risen prices and / or duration minimums because they want to resume in the business, make the same / similar / more as they did pre-covid, (least being less than precovid), but while now reduce their risk. Not yours / ours. Reduce the quantity of us they see, per day of work.
For agencies, there's going to be waves of less client volume (all social events banned all summer, no visitors dumping $ and running, just local customer base) and waves of girls not working periodically as they individually minimize risk dip in and dip out, the agencies rose the girls under who were 240, into that price. These initial weeks of repopening represent pent up demand. Most of those that book will have paid.
I think any realm of price agencies would gave set within the 200-250 range. But the long term, say 2 months from now, I think remains to be seen how busy business will be. Esp if covid does or does not get under control.
Supply of girls versus demand of them, but agencies never lower prices once raised. Prices were raised the last few years already. Perhaps now, they won't raise for the next two-three. Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.
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[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2457358]Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.[/QUOTE]A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.
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Border
It seems like the US border will remain close until July 21 now.
Even if I am a local that sucks big time. The hobby needs the US client to thrive. Many girl told me over the years they are the best. They pay well and generally less demanding then locals.
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[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457461]A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.[/QUOTE]I think Toronto agencies were pushing towards 300 before COVID. The agencies need to be careful not to push away customers especially for some of the less popular girls. Toronto seems to have informal pricing tiers. I'm not sure how that works with the girls who are priced at a lower rate. I'm guessing the agency owners have to be very sensitive and good at dealing with all the personalities. I suspect they will continue to bring new girls on at lower prices and let the girl's demand kind of determine whether price increases can be sustained.
As already mentioned by others, how do the price increases work with less visitors to Montreal. In any event, it's a very fluid situation.