Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2319831]According to some here Thermae also falls in to this category because Farang have bigger dicks and can pound a girl harder than an Asian dude. I suspect Thaniya Road as well but done more discretely.[/QUOTE]I guess I can't see Japanese customers paying Thermae girls more than the amounts those girls quote and/or accept from me, a Caucasian man, and other Caucasian men I know. I realize there are (supposedly) Top Lookers as Thermae girls go who say no to anyone except Japanese or certain other Asian punters. So I don't know what those girls are getting from their customers. But I and other Caucasians approach many of the same girls a whole lot of Japanese guys also approach in Thermae. Sometimes I take them. Sometimes I see Japanese customers taking them.

Those girls might start by saying 3,000 baht for ST to me, although that is actually not generally the case. 2,500 baht is generally what they say to me. I might say 2,000 baht back or 2,500 baht if their starting point was 3,000. But the end result will be I and other Caucasian guys I know will wind up paying 2,500, give or take a couple hundred baht, to many of the same girls being approached by Japanese guys. Ok, mostly give, not take a couple of hundred baht. LOL.

So, seriously, are those same girls who seem as attractive and as often approached and taken by Japanese customers as by me and other Caucasian men I know for some unknown reason quoting and accepting higher amounts from their Japanese customers than from us Caucasians? If so, that would contradict the whole premise of them charging more for (supposedly) bigger dicks, more and longer pounding, the risk of being seen walking out with a farang instead of an Asian and so on, no? And does that mean the Japanese customers are only being quoted 2,000 or 2,500 baht at first and the girl is willing to come down to as low as 1,500 baht with those Japanese dudes?

I just don't get how the vast majority of Thermae girls are supposed to be expecting or getting more from their Japanese customer for whatever reason but are still starting out at 3,000 and willing to come down to 2,500 or even to 2,000 baht for us Caucasians. I mean, if the Japanese guys are paying them 2,500-3,000 baht, shouldn't the girls be asking me to pay 3,500-4,000 baht? If the idea is to demand more money from me than from the Asian customers, that is. Which, again, contradicts the other bit about Japanese customers paying more and that is why the girls like them. lol. Something doesn't compute.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2319853]Is it easier money? How many Farang do you know that demand p1ss in mouth, taking craps on one another, face farting, face slapping, require girls to be a sushi table, bondage, fisting, etc. These are the tame kinks. Japanese have many messed up kinks and fetishes, many which most Farang do not have.

There's a reason why most Japanese girls do not want any sex with Japanese men.[/QUOTE]Wow. Do those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae actually do those things with their Japanese customers?

I don't know. If I were a Thermae hooker, I'd charge Japanese men more just to offset all the damage done to my lungs from the cigarette smoking and smell of smoke on their clothes long before I worried about one of them p1ssing in my mouth or crapping on me. LOL. Suddenly those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae aren't looking so good to me anymore.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2319859]I mean, if the Japanese guys are paying them 2,500-3,000 baht, shouldn't the girls be asking me to pay 3,500-4,000 baht?[/QUOTE]The girls demand whatever the market will bear within reason. If you are there now with 2 k at the ready she can take it rather than just standing at the bar earning nothing. After your ST is up, she can return and ask the same or more from another punter.

We had a pretty long discussion in the Philippine board about high end girls charging noob barflies 9 k, repeat customers 3 k during her day off and resident falangs 500 when the rent is due. Its all same same.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2319866]Wow. Do those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae actually do those things with their Japanese customers?

I don't know. If I were a Thermae hooker, I'd charge Japanese men more just to offset all the damage done to my lungs from the cigarette smoking and smell of smoke on their clothes long before I worried about one of them p1ssing in my mouth or crapping on me. LOL. Suddenly those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae aren't looking so good to me anymore.[/QUOTE]I've heard some stories from the WG's about European men that are very ruff and tough. One lady told me while crying about a Euro guy that ask her for a massage and then in the room wanted sex. She explained that she would have to charge him for the sex and massage. He forced her and beat her and had sex then threw her out of the room, no pay. She said she can't go to the police because she would have to pay them and that having sex is illegal. She could go to jail.

I was also told about a Japanese man who took a lady to a Japanese Resto and drank a lot of Saki and Sushi, pardoned himself to make a phone call and never came back. She was left with a huge bill she had to pay.

One lady told me that she doesn't work Thermae anymore because the Asian men have many toys and they like to play out the adventures they see on Japanese phorn. She says not worth what they pay for her to be played.

I can't understand why some men treat these ladies so bad. These ladies have kids to support and usually a Mom and family. It must be superiority complex that makes a man feel like he can kick ass whenever he wants. I pity those fools.

RL.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2319871]The girls demand whatever the market will bear within reason. If you are there now with 2 k at the ready she can take it rather than just standing at the bar earning nothing. After your ST is up, she can return and ask the same or more from another punter.

We had a pretty long discussion in the Philippine board about high end girls charging noob barflies 9 k, repeat customers 3 k during her day off and resident falangs 500 when the rent is due. Its all same same.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Can throw much of the "market" fantasy out the window here as you have to deal with the issue of face. One the gal gets X amount, going for less is a loss of face. Many would rather starve.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2319866]Wow. Do those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae actually do those things with their Japanese customers?

I don't know. If I were a Thermae hooker, I'd charge Japanese men more just to offset all the damage done to my lungs from the cigarette smoking and smell of smoke on their clothes long before I worried about one of them p1ssing in my mouth or crapping on me. LOL. Suddenly those supposed Top Lookers in Thermae aren't looking so good to me anymore.[/QUOTE]I would imagine very few if any demand those types of services. Have you seen the Japanese dudes in thermae lately? You have some young handsome dudes in vacation groups and then you have older obviously nerdy type dudes who probably can't get laid at home with 100 k Yen. Neither group strikes me as hardcore fetishist.

I would imagine the white man is a lot more demanding.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2319896]Can throw much of the "market" fantasy out the window here as you have to deal with the issue of face. One the gal gets X amount, going for less is a loss of face. Many would rather starve.[/QUOTE]I'm reasonably aware of the concept of Face and agree that the girls certainly don't advertise that they have received the lower amounts. Generally they keep the buyers seperate. Its also a bad idea for the guy to brag about it around town lest he be cut off.

I'd argue that few girls have a set, take it or leave it price that they don't vary under any circumstances. Most have some wiggle room, both up and down.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2319902]I'm reasonably aware of the concept of Face and agree that the girls certainly don't advertise that they have received the lower amounts. Generally they keep the buyers seperate. Its also a bad idea for the guy to brag about it around town lest he be cut off.

I'd argue that few girls have a set, take it or leave it price that they don't vary under any circumstances. Most have some wiggle room, both up and down.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I would argue 99% never have a set price.

Its all about your appearance and demeanor.

That determines the price.

If you look good and can say 500 pesos, you will be surprised how many say yes.

I will say you better be far away from ear shot of any other WGs or mongers.

What you're suggesting is just pay her what she wants LOL.

Please your comment, whatever the market will bear LOL seriously.

That mentality is destroying mongering globally, then you added (within reason) LOL what?

I'm sure brothel owners and hookers worldwide love the phrase.

Whatever the market will bear.

Or as I like to say.

Aka whatever the biggest fools will pay.

Realmenneveroverpay#.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2319886]It must be superiority complex that makes a man feel like he can kick ass whenever he wants. I pity those fools.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like an inferiority complex to me. Badly treated by boss at work, uncooperative and ugly wife at home, low self-esteem, not as conventionally successful as his own college mates, etc. They take it out on a working girl. Very sad.

Most of these blokes who think it's OK to treat women like animals are the same kids who were beaten by their alcoholic dads for wetting the bed.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2319916]Sounds more like an inferiority complex to me. Badly treated by boss at work, uncooperative and ugly wife at home, low self-esteem, not as conventionally successful as his own college mates, etc. They take it out on a working girl. Very sad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2319886]I've heard some stories from the WG's about European men that are very ruff and tough. One lady told me while crying about a Euro guy that ask her for a massage and then in the room wanted sex. She explained that she would have to charge him for the sex and massage. He forced her and beat her and had sex then threw her out of the room, no pay. She said she can't go to the police because she would have to pay them and that having sex is illegal. She could go to jail.

I was also told about a Japanese man who took a lady to a Japanese Resto and drank a lot of Saki and Sushi, pardoned himself to make a phone call and never came back. She was left with a huge bill she had to pay.

One lady told me that she doesn't work Thermae anymore because the Asian men have many toys and they like to play out the adventures they see on Japanese phorn. She says not worth what they pay for her to be played.

I can't understand why some men treat these ladies so bad. These ladies have kids to support and usually a Mom and family. It must be superiority complex that makes a man feel like he can kick ass whenever he wants. I pity those fools.

RL.[/QUOTE]It depends more on man's mentality rather than nationality.

And I agree with you on toys, I see lost of Japanese guys buying weird stuff from those street stalls near soi 11 soi 13.

It makes me sick that these guy treat them so badly. If a girl has agreed to do something, then that's her choice but forcing her or telling her about it in room, that's just disgusting.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2319886]I've heard some stories from the WG's about European men that are very ruff and tough. One lady told me while crying about a Euro guy that ask her for a massage and then in the room wanted sex. She explained that she would have to charge him for the sex and massage. He forced her and beat her and had sex then threw her out of the room, no pay. She said she can't go to the police because she would have to pay them and that having sex is illegal. She could go to jail.[/QUOTE]You believe whatever they tell you? It seems like you're probably a good business for them if you can believe this. This story sounds completely bullshit. There's no way something like that happened in Thailand, maybe she was working in a brothel abroad but most likely 100% bullshit.

Nowadays it's almost the opposite that happens. Whenever a foreigner gets in a confrontation he's being beaten, by girls, by LBs or by the taxi-mob and random guys in the area or they are taken in the police station (I've seen that happens in front of me numerous times).

It's been a while I've written a FR on my sexual encounters, because they've been rather boring lately. For last month, I just barfined girls from gogos or met my regular contacts. Nothing interesting to write about them. But as I'm writing one now, so obviously, something happened. So, this Thursday, I was sitting at a bar in soi 11, just enjoying football, and some beer. Then planning to go home and sleep early. But then I turned my head and saw a girl looking at me, like always, I smiled back. I have been a monger long enough to know, that was a hooker smile. So, after passing few naughty smiles, I went to her and asked her name. She said she works at Irrigation center, don't know what it is exactly. But whatever. She was around 5:6, little healthy, but not chubby. After few more talk, I asked her if she want to come to my room. She said, "if you pay" (read: me smiling) I asked how much she wanted, she said 3 K, I counter 2 K and she agreed and also told me that she won't do uncovered sex and CIM. Which I replied back to, "Not my things".

During our walk to my room, I also found out that she's doing freelancing for 2 years and do it for family and don't have any kids. BTW, she was 26.

Once in room, we took shower. Now in 5 minutes in shower, I found out she's little shy, little odd for someone who's doing it for 2 years. Why I thought she is shy? When I took her panty off, she covered her pussy with her hands. For a millisecond thought she's LB for god's sake. Well, if you're wondering, no she's not lb, she had a good clean pussy with little amount of hairs. I've a thing for not kissing WGs because of the weird things they do, and only kiss my regular girls. But this time I started with kissing, because her lips reminded me of Dakota Johnson's, so I pushed her again the wall gently and started kissing her. For which, she responded well. When I stopped, she started kissing me back. This was one of the better foreplay I had in a while, once we moved to bed, she gave okay-ish BJ. After that I put the rubber on fucked her on top. She didn't had the very tight pussy but tighter than many gogo girls I've had recently. She jumped for almost 10 minutes, while I enjoyed the view and her boobs. After 10 minutes, I realised I will take 10 more minutes maybe to cum, so I asked her, "stop, I'll come over you". Well stupid me, she replied, "where do you want to cum". I laughed after registering it, and explained I'm intending for mis position. Then after 10 minutes of thrusting, I came. Now, I liked this girl. I didn't wrote this into details, but the sex was quite wild. So, I asked how much she wants for full night. She said 3000 so I gave 1000 more (actually I gave her 3000,2000 for before and 1000 now).

We cuddled for a while and then she slept over my shoulders, my hand over her head, second caressing her body, wherever I can reach while lying, and she playing with my cock. My condo was heaven for those hours. Around 4 I woke up, and realised she's stroking my dick. I was like WTF. She came over me and started kissing me. And I enjoyed but tried to stopped her as my dick was unprotected and her pussy damn wet. So, I put another condom and fucker her in doggy. Usually I don't come easily on second time, but this time, I came in around 10 minutes. Went to sleep again. Woke up around 7, and I started kissing her body. I took the sheet off, and now in the sunlight coming, I was in shock. In a good shock BTW. She was looking even more beautiful, with no clothes, and sunlight over her body. I kissed her and massaged her for good 10-15 minutes, after this we fucked again, this me sitting and she sitting over legs. It was perfect, because her big boobs were rubbing my chest and we can kiss forever, and my hands can squeeze those asses. I didn't come though this time. We went to shower and she gave me HJ to release me.

After taking her for breakfast, I found out she's actually doing it for 3 months. That explained her poor BJ skills, hairs on her pussy and also her being little shy.

Took her line ID and booked her a cab for her to go to her office, as I didn't give any tip to her last night (though she deserved it).

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2319853]Is it easier money? How many Farang do you know that demand p1ss in mouth, taking craps on one another, face farting, face slapping, require girls to be a sushi table, bondage, fisting, etc. These are the tame kinks. Japanese have many messed up kinks and fetishes, many which most Farang do not have.

There's a reason why most Japanese girls do not want any sex with Japanese men.
[/QUOTE]That's some weird stuff.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2319853]Is it easier money? How many Farang do you know that demand p1ss in mouth, taking craps on one another, face farting, face slapping, require girls to be a sushi table, bondage, fisting, etc. These are the tame kinks. Japanese have many messed up kinks and fetishes, many which most Farang do not have.

There's a reason why most Japanese girls do not want any sex with Japanese men.[/QUOTE]I think that's more a German thing than a Japanese thing (other than the sushi table, that is definitely Japanese). Have you ever seen a Max Hardcore porn video?