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Pretty Wide Assumption
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??
I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.
The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??
I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which....I met a girl a couple of years ago in the street on Pattaya Klang. A couple of days later I saw her working in the massage spot that I was frequenting at the time. I have pictures of her from both encounters. Over the past two years I have been thinking to myself why didn't I ever ask her out. Actually I know why. It is because at that time I had a TG in Pattaya who worked right inside of the mall that I met this chick in front of.
Last month I was walking back from the dive shop and saw the same girl working at a different massage spot. I told her that I remembered her and had the pictures on my computer to prove it. She said that she remembered me as well from her last job. I told her that I would be back later. I had been diving all day and needed to go to the hotel to freshen up and grab my scooter.
When I returned to the massage shop a couple of hours later the lady who owned the place said that if I wanted to go out with the girl I would have to pay her (the owner, whose farang boyfriend happened to be in town) for the girl to leave work. I'm like what the fuck. When did legitimate massage places start having bar fines? I told her that I would just wait until a time she is not working to go out with her. The lady still insisted. I finally just left because I didn't want to make trouble for this girl. I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?[/QUOTE]
First time I heard this concept it blew me away too but I've learn that it's quite the norm in many shops. When a MP girl is absent from work she has to pay a fee to the owner unless she is sick or on a medical appointment. Some MPs girls pay (or their sponsor pay) a hefty fee to be absent from work for a week or more when their sponsors come to town. The idea is to compensate the shop for revenue (loss) which she would have (potentially) generated if she was not taken out of the shop.
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]
The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.
Nowrath[/QUOTE]
Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.[/QUOTE]
Born and raised there were you?
Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.
Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .
But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.
We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in
But your point was well taken
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]Born and raised there were you?
Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.
Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .
But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.
We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in
But your point was well taken
Nowrath[/QUOTE]
Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.
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[QUOTE=DG69]Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .[/QUOTE]
I think you underestimate the ability of these girls to sense people. They perfectly know who's smart or not, wether you are with a pretty girl or not. If you are a creep and come with a pretty girl, it'll not change anything.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .[/QUOTE]
Who say I am an expad? I were a expad in Saudi-Arabia, Asserbaidschan, Spain, Italy and UK, but never in Thailand. Though I were many times in Thailand on holidays. Often 3 weeks and more. Last time I spend 2 months on holiday in Thailand. So, I know a little bit about freelancer and bargirls.
It's true some of the younger pretty freelancer, with sponsors in the background, will mostly go with younger guys.
I don't speak from the beachroad girls, but from the higher tier Club girls. It's true if you are known as a big spender and expensive girls are around you, you might impress them. Though is this result worth all those effort? If they are too proud to consider you as a client, than you will most likely not get a good service.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.[/QUOTE]
I would bet that you should save your money and continue spotting them the way you and Amjeck do, ok.
It wasn't a battle I was in or worth fighting for.
Being a professional "experienced" sex worker spotter ,hmm I'll keep my day job.
No apology needed because I'm not naive or dense, Been to Thailand probably more then 13 times, just find it humerous of all the wealth of knowledge on spotting the known worker.
would love to be able to post pictures of the 12-15 year old girls going to school and the 20 year old sex workers in my town , and let you guys pick who is who .
The lady boy test was easy 10 out of 10 , I know you won't believe but it is very simple in person and photo's , the jawline always gives them away .
No matter how petite, a male jawline differs from a female
So happy spotting , I'll just steer clear and tell my massage gals to cover their cleavage
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Pita123]Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.[/QUOTE]
No surprise Pita , I don't do the gogo or bargirls anymore, but the massage gals ask the same thing .
Why spend time with me?
Because your fun and enjoyable company.
I have a friend that is retired there now , 4 years so when I come , he invites the sister or friend of who he is living with to visit .
We always hit it off, sometimes there is sex, sometimes not.
Like the massage gals doesn't matter.
Just nice people .
Nowrath
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Pattaya Trip Part 1
by an amazing series of circumstances i was able to get to thailand for just over a week without mrs k2k. i booked a taxi service to take me straight to pattaya (1, 000 baht) and checked in to the pasadena lodge. i was happily surprised when i found out that it is not possible to leave the hotel without passing either [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or devils den.
quantity doesn't work for me any more so i decided to devote the trip to variety, going after as many different categories of sex worker as possible. i did not pursue this as rigourously as i could have, but i still managed to enjoy myself.
i have come to the conclusion that you ony need two things to get laid in this town:
1. cash
2. a pulse
fortunately, i have both, so i was not disappointed.
day 1
feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight i decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. i found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. actually, this is not true. several parlours found me, almost as soon as i left the hotel. if there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.
not wishing to fall into the first parlour i encountered i chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. after seeing about a dozen, i concluded that there was nothing obvious that i could use to differentiate between the offerings. the one i eventually chose (sorry, i can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. i didn't choose it because of the price, but because i was attracted by one of the ladies outside. just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. i guess i should have walked at this point, but by this stage i was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.
i started with a very welcome shower. i needed this, even though i'd had one just before i left the hotel. then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. i found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. just as i was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would i like. we agreed 1,000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so i thought. she did a decent bbbj followed by cim and i was a happy man. then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and i paid her the agreed amount. on the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. i point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". this i did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it),
later on, returning to the hotel, i was tempted by the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] ladies in their school uniforms. i picked one quite attractive one from outside and in we went. "you want drink? " she asked, but was more than happy to go straight upstairs when i said no. i was impressed by the room, although i was disappointed by the lack of mirrors on the ceiling. all the walls have them, so why not above, too? the lady did a reasonable bbbj but no cim so i just paid 700 baht and left.
day 2
after a day on the beach i decided to check out what beach road had to offer about 5pm. there was no shortage of talent, but few stunners. i eventually got talking to rose, a 23 year old spinner, dressed in knee high boots, tight shorts and top. she has a rose tattoo on her upper arm, in case there is any doubt about her name she just points to it. she also wears her hair quite short. above the shoulders. which seems very unusual for a thai girl, despite the heat. the offer was 500 for st or 1200 for lt, which meant staying until 2am, according to her. i opted for st and she took me to her preferred hotel, just off beach road. the room was very basic, but at 100 baht i couldn't complain. after we had showered together rose asked me if i had a condom, which i didn't. neither, apparently, did she, so i settled for a mechanical bbbj. no cim offered. as soon as she cleaned me up she started getting dressed, so short time to her meant one pop.
later that night i was returning to pasadena lodge and again felt the magnetic pull of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. picked a different girl and went upstairs with her. the bj started well, but then she started applying too much hand action. i batted her hand away and she resumed her work. after a bit, the hand action recurred and i had to bat it away again. this happened three times and i was beginning to get irked. so the fourth time i stopped her completely, looked her in the eye and said "do it how i like and i'll pay you 1, 000 baht". well, money talks and she listened. the hand disappeared. she slowed down. "you like? " she asked several times to check she was doing it right, which she was. she almost rimmed me, which was pretty good considering that i was sitting on the couch. she gave a five star performance and took my load in her mouth. 1, 000 baht well spent, in my view.
k2k
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url][/QUOTE]8 out of 10 , nice training to sharpen your skills
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Soi 6 Today - Squirter
Today my friend (still have one) dragged me down to Soi 6. He likes it there. I don't.
We found a bar. He went upstairs pretty sharpish. I stayed downstairs and had a good chat with the girl trying to get me to go upstairs. She went through the normal list of things that she would do for me and, the things I could do to her. She finished up by saying that if I made her come I would not have to pay her. I asked her how I would know that she had come. She told me I would see as she would have water.
I didn't take her upstairs to check. Like so many of the girls these days she was just a bit to fat for me.
Many years ago I did experience a squirter (I am not even sure if this is the correct word for it) and, It didn't really do anything for me. I just wondered how many other members had come across this before and, if anybody really enjoys it, I can pass on more details about the girl and the bar.
If this has already been discussed I am very sorry. I am new to this as everybody knows.