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Looking for a little help from those who have flown Avianca often. My understanding is that upgrades on Avianca are done via a highest bidder process. I'm curious as to what price range (on top of the fare) are those winning bids usually? Feel free to PM!
Thanks,
Rodeo
I'm now a member! My bank are hot on security so declined my payment. So I coming November first time to Colombia. Can't wait to make my own reports. Any ideas how to find hook ups on FB? I'm on CC but they are not up for it now they now I don't land for 3 months. 3 night in bog then I'm unsure. I booked flight to barq but been told it's quite. So maybe strait to med. Or cart.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1917912]I'm now a member! My bank are hot on security so declined my payment. So I coming November first time to Colombia. Can't wait to make my own reports. Any ideas how to find hook ups on FB? I'm on CC but they are not up for it now they now I don't land for 3 months. 3 night in bog then I'm unsure. I booked flight to barq but been told it's quite. So maybe strait to med. Or cart.[/QUOTE]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.
Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.
Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.
I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1918541]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.
Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.
Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.
I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.[/QUOTE]I agree with Soldierb. Cartagena is definitely worth visiting at least once. It's a interesting place to see from a tourist perspective, a unique city. However, 3-4 days is probably sufficient.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1918541]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.
Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.
Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.
I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys I will go after Bogata. I booked a flight to Barq so I'll just keep it and catch a bus or cab down to cart. Any recommendations on good hotels?
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1918713]Thanks guys I will go after Bogata. I booked a flight to Barq so I'll just keep it and catch a bus or cab down to cart. Any recommendations on good hotels?[/QUOTE]I usually stay in an apartment. Many of the nice hotels are not very chica friendly. So if you plan on bringing 3-4 girls up a night then grab an apartment. Most of the times these days I bring one up per night so I book room for two people and she registers at front desk as my girl friend. This has worked at the Hilton, the Hampton Inn and the Hotel Caribe. But parading a girl in front of everyone at the Hilton or Caribe would depend on what she is wearing. If she looks classy I have had no problems registering her. I wouldn't take a girl in an obvious hooker outfit to either of those places. Just take her to a nearby motel and fuck her and then go back to the nice pools at either of those places and chill alone.
Hello gentlemen,
I need some help. I would like to travel to Colombia and it will be my first time. Any advice where I should go to live (hotel) and start (city) at as a newbie? I've been to Rio and Sosua.
The Mansion is perfect for newbies.
[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gzilla;1928523]Hello gentlemen,
I need some help. I would like to travel to Colombia and it will be my first time. Any advice where I should go to live (hotel) and start (city) at as a newbie? I've been to Rio and Sosua.[/QUOTE]
This post is the first installment of my serialized reporting on my first trip to Colombia in late August and early September 2016. This first installment provides an overview of my trip and a comparison of my experiences in Medellin (MDE) and Cartagena (CTG). I will follow up with topical installments (instead of the usual chronological format) in the appropriate MDE and CTG sections, respectively.
Colombia had long been on my agenda due to experiences with Colombians in the US, which played a key role in the development of my taste for Latinas. I decided, however, to get my feet wet in Costa Rica (CR) and the Dominican Republic (DR) first when I read about the more challenging environment in Colombia, for which I would be better prepared with more experience under my belt. The lessons that I learned in CR and the DR and the improvements in my Spanish served me well in Colombia.
I had a two-week window for my trip. MDE was my top priority due to its well-deserved reputation for abundant hotties, its top-notch mongering scene, and the advantages of staying at the Mansion as a Colombia newbie. I figured that a week in MDE would suffice, leaving me wondering what to do with my remaining week. I decided on CTG, given its combination of a substantial mongering scene, an appealing Old City, and a range of non-mongering activities there. I chose to visit MDE first and CTG second because I figured that my manhood would be worn out and I would be low on leche after a week in MDE. I planned on mongering less in CTG because there were more non-mongering things that I wanted to do there and because my research on the CTG mongering scene suggested that it would be less appealing and rewarding for me than that of MDE.
Overall, I had a fantastic time and I plan to return to Colombia in the future. I found that Colombia's reputation for fine women is well-deserved; the chicas there were significantly hotter than those of CR and the DR. With that said, the specific body type that had initially attracted me to Colombians in the US tall & thick with big tits & ass was less pervasive than I had thought it would be, especially at the Mansion, where gringo tastes must have fostered a shorter and skinnier demographic than I would have preferred. The demographic at the two main CTG strip clubs (ISIS and Pleyclub) was the closest fit for my personal taste in body types, which seems to be closer to that of Colombians than that of my fellow gringo mongers. In CTG I was usually competing not with other gringos but with Colombians, who were often much quicker on the draw than me.
I found Colombian full service to be even more intense than I had anticipated; in my opinion, they significantly outperformed Costa Ricans and somewhat outperformed Dominicans in this area. These chicas clearly knew how to make effective use of their lower bodies in often remarkable ways. In several cases, the full service was so intense that I felt like I was doing a wild animal or a wild animal was doing me. In fact, one of my main criticisms was that some of the chicas were too rough for my taste, and I had to ask a few of them to slow down and soften up.
The quality of Colombian blowjobs was more inconsistent, from fantastic to nearly non-existent. I got a greater sense in Colombia than I did in CR and the DR that some chicas preferred to focus on full service and keep the blowjobs to a minimum, and that many chicas were reluctant to provide a blowjob finish due to fears of leche in their mouths. I also found that thinner chicas often gave better blowjobs and seemed more into it, whereas the more voluptuous chicas tended to focus more on full service.
One of the perennial frustrations of this hobby for me and other mongers has been that the hotter chicas are often weaker performers. In other words, they are often starfishes in bed and think that you will leche just by looking at them and putting your manhood inside them. This problem never surfaced for me in Colombia, as it did occasionally in CR and the DR. In fact, I found the opposite to be true: the hotter Colombian chicas were usually stronger performers than the less attractive (but still cute) ones. I am curious as to whether or not other mongers have had similar experiences in Colombia, as this experience may prompt me to revise my selection of chicas in future visits to Colombia.
MDE was simply fantastic from a mongering perspective and was by far my best overseas mongering experience yet. I plan to return to MDE repeatedly in the future. The downside of MDE is that it is low on non-mongering sights and activities that interest me; I need something to do when I am not actively mongering, if only in order to give my body time to recharge for the next session. I would have little or no reason to visit MDE if it were not a top-notch mongering destination.
I had lower expectations for the CTG mongering scene, but it was even less enjoyable for me than I had expected. I had a higher proportion of mediocre and negative experiences in CTG than I did in MDE, the DR, and CR; only Amsterdam yielded a higher proportion of such experiences. I did nonetheless have some great times with a handful of gems that I found in CTG just enough to outweigh the negative and mediocre experiences and my general distaste for the CTG mongering scene. CTG is, however, a more interesting city to visit than MDE and had more fulfilling non-mongering activities. In my case, scuba diving and exploring the Old City. Having crossed those non-mongering activities off my list and decided that the CTG mongering scene is not for me, I see no reason to return there. I did have a good time overall, though, and I am still glad that I went there once.
In my opinion, the MDE mongering scene wins hands down over that of CTG for the attractiveness of its chicas, the quality of their service, and the lower cost of obtaining those services (in terms of time, money, energy, risk, and hassle).
I had high expectations for the beauty of paisa women, and the women that I saw in MDE both chicas and the general population. Exceeded even those high expectations. I found the women in CTG both chicas and the general population less attractive than those in MDE, with the significant exception of CTG's two main strip clubs (Isis and Pleyclub). It was probably not a coincidence that the chicas in CTG that I found most attractive were frequently from MDE.
I found that the quality of service was consistently higher in MDE. I did not have a single negative or mediocre experience with any of the Mansion / Facebook chicas there, and my only two weak sessions there were in cheap Centro casas (you get what you pay for). In contrast, the quality of service that I received in CTG varied considerably, from fantastic to terrible, regardless of price or venue. In fact, two of my worst sessions there were also the most expensive, and one of my best sessions there was also the cheapest one.
A pet peeve of mine was the pervasiveness of CBJ in CTG; a slight majority of chicas there flatly refused BBBJ, and many of the minority that offered BBBJ charged extra for it. In contrast, I only encountered CBJ in MDE in two of my three cheap casa sessions that were also weak in other ways. I got the impression from the regular Mansion mongers and my own sessions and interviews at the Mansion that BBBJ was typical (but not universal) for Mansion / Facebook chicas.
MDE mongering was not only cheaper but yielded better value for my money, time, energy, and patience than CTG. For example, 300 K COP can get you a TLN with a hot Mansion chica (say 8 or 9) and GFE, BBBJ, etc. In contrast, some of the less attractive CTG chicas at the Clock Tower or La Dolce Vita (an average of 7 or 8) wanted 300 K COP for an hour, often without GFE, BBBJ, etc.
Finding suitable chicas was much more convenient in MDE, especially at the Mansion, where one can just walk downstairs to the pool or La Cueva or "order in" from Facebook. The concentration of so many casas so close to each other in Centro greatly facilitates casa runs there.
In contrast, the key CTG mongering venues are more geographically dispersed, and it sometimes took hours of searching at multiple venues for me to find a suitable chica. Exploring the CTG scene also imposes more overhead logistical costs beyond the cost of an actual session, I. E. Cab rides, drink minimums, cover charges, multas / salidas, etc. On a given night, these logistical costs could reach or exceed 150 K COP a typical rate for one hour with a Mansion chica. And you might not have even gotten laid yet! Many of the main CTG venues also do not start up until late at night, which can be a problem if you are not a night person or you want to wake up early to do other things during the day. My most consistently positive results in CTG came from a virtual venue: Tinder, to which I resorted when the traditional physical venues did not yield the results for which I had hoped.
The biggest differences for me, though, were in the respective atmospheres of each city's mongering scene and the attitudes and behaviors of their respective chicas. The MDE Mansion / Facebook chicas were always friendly and persistent in seeking business, but not pushy or aggressive. They were very well-behaved, and I experienced almost no drama or misbehavior with them a welcome contrast to CR, the DR, and CTG. The worst thing that any of them did to me was to have me buy her a drink and then walk off with it instead of keeping me company as she drank it. The level of camaraderie among the Mansion mongers was also an integral factor in my enjoyment of MDE and a welcome contrast to the relative isolation that I experienced as a solo monger in CR, the DR, and CTG. Some of the Mansion regulars went out of their way to show me the ropes as a MDE newbie, and we exchanged useful tips and feedback about the chicas that we saw or wanted to see.
The single worst feature of CTG for me was in the behaviors and attitudes of its chicas. They often displayed a brusque business-like impatience and a tendency to rush into a deal that made it hard or impossible for me to interview them to my satisfaction and set the right tone for a good session. Even more frustrating, once I did decide to bring an independent CTG chica to my apartment, was that so many of them asked for payment up front, which I always refused. One chica also tried to pull the "I meant dollars, not pesos" scam. I had to abort three sessions because of these issues, prompting one of these chicas to threaten to call the police. Such issues also detracted from two other sessions.
My two cents: perhaps MDE remains a top-notch mongering destination in part because there are fewer other reasons for gringos to go there, leaving the field open to dedicated mongers. In contrast, perhaps the large scale of non-mongering tourism in CTG has corrupted the local mongering scene by encouraging chicas to take advantage of mainstream tourists who do not know any better.
The presence, absence, and character of mongering institutions in each city are also factors. I suspect that the Mansion / Facebook chicas were so well-behaved and provided such good service in part because they wanted to maintain their reputations in this smaller, more closely-knit community and did not want to risk their access to the critical Mansion client base. (I wonder how those same chicas would have acted if I had met them through other means or in another setting). At the Mansion, I almost felt like I was part of a family or a close circle of friends.
In contrast, CTG left me with the sense that I was on my own in the Wild West, and there was no monger-friendly institution to keep the chicas in line and discourage bad behavior or poor performance for example, even something as simple as the Del Rey keeping out known troublemakers. Indeed, one of CTG's key mongering institutions, La Dolce Vita, evidently colludes with chicas to hustle mongers into buying them overpriced drinks. Perhaps what CTG could use is its own Mansion, Cocal, Del Rey, or New Garden. The lack of a major chica-friendly mongering hotel in CTG (unless you are Israeli and can get into Casa Benjamin) is not only a logistical issue but may also impede the development of a sense of community by driving and isolating mongers into their individual apartments.
So here are some questions with which I hope to initiate a fruitful discussion.
MDE regulars what non-mongering activities keep you busy in MDE when you are not either engaged in a session or searching for your next one? What do you do when you need to take time off to give your manhood a break and rebuild your supply of leche?
CTG regulars why does CTG appeal to you as a mongering destination, instead of or in addition to MDE? Why go to CTG when the mongering in MDE is (in my opinion) so much better? Is it the setting and appeal of the city of CTG itself and its non-mongering activities?
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;1938303]This post is the first installment of my serialized reporting on my first trip to Colombia in late August and early September 2016. This first installment provides an overview of my trip and a comparison of my experiences in Medellin (MDE) and Cartagena (CTG). I will follow up with topical installments (instead of the usual chronological format) in the appropriate MDE and CTG sections, respectively.
Colombia had long been on my agenda due to experiences with Colombians in the US, which played a key role in the development of my taste for Latinas. I decided, however, to get my feet wet in Costa Rica (CR) and the Dominican Republic (DR) first when I read about the more challenging environment in Colombia, for which I would be better prepared with more experience under my belt. The lessons that I learned in CR and the DR and the improvements in my Spanish served me well in Colombia.
I had a two-week window for my trip. MDE was my top priority due to its well-deserved reputation for abundant hotties, its top-notch mongering scene, and the advantages of staying at the Mansion as a Colombia newbie. I figured that a week in MDE would suffice, leaving me wondering what to do with my remaining week. I decided on CTG, given its combination of a substantial mongering scene, an appealing Old City, and a range of non-mongering activities there. I chose to visit MDE first and CTG second because I figured that my manhood would be worn out and I would be low on leche after a week in MDE..[/QUOTE]First off what a great summarized detailed post, cannot wait to see more of the details of your exact spots and mongering experiences within each of the cities thread. Anyways I am no veteran or expert unlike some users here that claim they have been mongering in Colombia for decades, and I cannot compare the mongering environment of Medellin to anything else like you since I have not traveled anywhere else in the world for that hobby. As a Matter of fact the first time I went to Medellin I did not go at all for that intention, I went with my paisa friend that invited me to go there and visit his family with him and he is the one that introduced me to that environment, I was reluctant at first of course because I am super young and thought paying for sex was the stupidest waste of money ever but seeing how stunningly attractive Colombianas were and how fucking cheap it was to fuck them, cheaper than a what typical date costs me here in the states with my GF I was like literally "fuck it" LOL he was like my "Mansion" experience, thus I have never step foot in the mansion either. Either way with MDE within these two years I have made 10 trips, very affordable for me to fly there since I am in FL and as you noticed mongering, eating, lodging etc etc is super cheap with our heavier currency. I read and saw information here about each city, and with Cartagena I have no idea what mongering scene is there as I have never traveled there, I imagined it was kindly non existent and when I see the thread here in ISG and see how much less detailed it is with less activities and it is generally a more expensive sexual trip than in MDE I decided from that I would never go there to get Pussy LOL. Now Bogota seems to be a good mongering environment, I am going to go there for the first time in a few days and it looks like there a ton more options when it comes to pussy and it is a bigger city and more to do.
Now to answer your question:
[B]MDE regulars what non-mongering activities keep you busy in MDE when you are not either engaged in a session or searching for your next one? What do you do when you need to take time off to give your manhood a break and rebuild your supply of leche?[/B]
I have not made a solo mongering trip ever to Medellin, I usually enjoy peoples company whether it be my paisa friend for mongering or I either go for a non-mongering trip and stay over there with my non-pro Girlfriend over there. I did however came to find a lot of things to entertain myself over there, again I go for short period of times (5 day or 1 week vacations max) so it is hard for me to get bored, but in each trip out of ritual I always go up the rail and go to Parque Arby, I enjoy the natural view of the sky rail, ride a chiva, ride a bike in the mountains enjoy the natural scenery, so that takes my whole day right there honestly. I do also enjoy Soccer a lot so thanks to a close friend I made over there he introduced me to a few indoor soccer venues and street pick up spots, its an activity I can do between my recharges, also I can always relax in a nice bar in Parque Lleras or a cantina in el centro having a few beers talk to the locals and make new friends and shit. I am not Colombian, but I am of Mexican descent so with my Spanish I always try my best to expand my social circle, whether it be to meet more chicas, have friends to play soccer or any other activity I like, so at this point for me its really hard for me to get bored there because when I go there is always someone I know that has something interesting to do or to show me or someone I can always hang out with even if I traveled alone and even if I had no GF there, otherwise I can just hang with my GF there. If you do get yourself a chica or a semipro that will be happy to spend time with you then I highly recommend you travel up to San Jeronimo and bathe in some nice spring like swimming pools with your nice chica with the breathtaking view of the city getting turned up and lit with some aguila or aguardiente and smoking some "good shit", perhaps even rent a finca, trust me it is impossible to get bored there at all!
I will go to Bogota and then I will do a trip comparison like how you did with MDE vs CTG.
Hey guys,
Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali. For my sins, I seem to have got myself my very own puta Colombian here in Spain. (Be warned! The perils of mongering. The advantage is supposed to be. They go home. Remember this important detail! They don't move in & take over your life.) Now we have flights booked in February. Go see the family.
So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?
Any info would be welcome.
[QUOTE=AndalusExpat;1939304]Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali.
So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?
Any info would be welcome.[/QUOTE]Don't do it. Took a bus (or maybe it was a van, but I am sure we got it at the bus station) there once with one of my girls to go to her cousin's funeral. We were only there for the service and went back to Cali after. You will be bored out of your mind. Never go home with chicks. Let them do that on their own. You will be the odd man out.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1940610]Don't do it. Took a bus (or maybe it was a van, but I am sure we got it at the bus station) there once with one of my girls to go to her cousin's funeral. We were only there for the service and went back to Cali after. You will be bored out of your mind...[/QUOTE]I hadn't intended visiting a funeral. Particularly my own.
As you can see on the Map it is in between Cali and Pereira. I looks like a very small town.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1SEYbTvsoWZwmfJ2cDxAyXGiWUak[/URL]
[QUOTE=AndalusExpat;1939304]Hey guys,
Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali. For my sins, I seem to have got myself my very own puta Colombian here in Spain. (Be warned! The perils of mongering. The advantage is supposed to be. They go home. Remember this important detail! They don't move in & take over your life.) Now we have flights booked in February. Go see the family.
So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?
Any info would be welcome.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I looked it over on street view. I'm actually staying at a place called Aguaclara. Barrio to the north. The Googlemobile seems to have passed through a couple streets. Apparently they own no cars. Only vehicles are motorcycles & horse & buggy. Quite encouraging, really. At least the locals aren't employed in knocking their wheels from the city, unlike some London suburbs I try & avoid. And kingpins in the international drug trade would probably run to BMWs, not Dobbin.