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I'm going to add something to it that I've noticed about the expats in Pattaya, . THEY'RE DIRTY. They ACT AND DRESS POORLY LIKE THEY ALSO CARRY THEMSELVES, . Let's put it straight out of the way, just a PERSONAL OBSERVATION, And before you start, you don't need to dress Gucci to be or look clean.
-My advice: Even if you have taken a shower, be and look presentable in the streets as well, Pattaya is not your Kansas city village, and it starts on how you look on your profile, to get their extra favors I've noticed. Shape your profile to be attractive to increase your hit.[/QUOTE]This is why I don't like to negotiate online with girls that haven't met me before. I have a good / clean look and I'm polite, which puts me in a good position to get BBFS. When discussing BB in messages I believe I'll likely get refusals that would have been successful if I tried it in person.
I don't blame the girls, agreeing to BB without even seeing the guy first is pretty risky and I wouldn't do it myself if I was in their place.
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I do same like you, I never ask to fuck the girl bareback before. Most of the time, girls worry other girls in the bar can hear they accept to fuck bareback. In fact, in Pattaya all the girls accept, they just ask you to pay more. For example, I was last month in Soi 6 in wrath bar, and there was only 1 sexy lady, very nice and after few drinks, after I kissed her a lot and touch all her body, she proposed me to go upstairs in the room fuck her for 2000 but I negociate at 1500 + 400 for the room. We took a shower together, and after lot of kisses, fingering her pussy and and licked her pussy deeply, I put directly my dick inside her pussy. I was fucking her so good and she directly asked me 500 bahts more because I was fucking her bareback! I said OK, and after few positions she asked me to not come inside her pussy. Then I told her, that I'll give her 500 more again to come inside and she was OK. And after we finished she told me, all the men want to fuck bareback in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3022291]This is why I don't like to negotiate online with girls that haven't met me before. I have a good / clean look and I'm polite, which puts me in a good position to get BBFS. When discussing BB in messages I believe I'll likely get refusals that would have been successful if I tried it in person.
I don't blame the girls, agreeing to BB without even seeing the guy first is pretty risky and I wouldn't do it myself if I was in their place.[/QUOTE]
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I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, I met a few girls that invited me to their room, not sure how safe going to their room is, have you been to a freelancers room before to do the deed?
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[QUOTE=RyanRulez;3022331]I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, [/QUOTE]The likelihood is very high that any hotel you select in Pattaya will be girl friendly.
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[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3022291]This is why I don't like to negotiate online with girls that haven't met me before. I have a good / clean look and I'm polite, which puts me in a good position to get BBFS. When discussing BB in messages I believe I'll likely get refusals that would have been successful if I tried it in person.
[b]I don't blame the girls, agreeing to BB without even seeing the guy first is pretty risky and I wouldn't do it myself if I was in their place.[/b][/QUOTE]So how is a person able to tell if someone has a disease by simply seeing them first? If this was possible then probably nobody would have a disease.
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[QUOTE=RyanRulez;3022331]I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, I met a few girls that invited me to their room, not sure how safe going to their room is, have you been to a freelancers room before to do the deed?[/QUOTE]Yes. No problem. There is a thing called incall and a thing called outcall. They are both normal when dealing with prostitutes. Been to hookers' places in tons of countries and can not remember one being unsafe. Are you expecting maybe they could have a lion that will eat you alive or bare wiring that could electrocute you?
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[QUOTE=RyanRulez;3022331]I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, I met a few girls that invited me to their room, not sure how safe going to their room is, have you been to a freelancers room before to do the deed?[/QUOTE]Any hotel that is not girl friendly in Pattaya will be out of business. You could try The 5th Jomtien. I was there. Nice hotel. Across Rompho market.
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[QUOTE=RyanRulez;3022331]I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, I met a few girls that invited me to their room, not sure how safe going to their room is, have you been to a freelancers room before to do the deed?[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here called "Pattaya hotels".
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[QUOTE=RyanRulez;3022331]I'm visiting Pattaya tomorrow with a stay near jomtein, could you suggest any girl friendly hotels or places for ST, I met a few girls that invited me to their room, not sure how safe going to their room is, have you been to a freelancers room before to do the deed?[/QUOTE]Then you don't know what you are missing! Personally I've never had a problem that is a highlight for me when I can but don't expect it to be a hotel, Majority are one room containing everything with a small bathroom, lucky if they have a wall hot shower it is scoopy doo style but that is the fun of it.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3022384]So how is a person able to tell if someone has a disease by simply seeing them first? If this was possible then probably nobody would have a disease.[/QUOTE]If you were a Pattaya girl, would you rather bareback a clean looking sober and polite gentleman, or some drunk stinky untidy dude who looks like he's been dug up?
On top of everything, I also carry a recent (and legit) std report, that can help.
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[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3022467]If you were a Pattaya girl, would you rather bareback a clean looking sober and polite gentleman, or some drunk stinky untidy dude who looks like he's been dug up?
On top of everything, I also carry a recent (and legit) std report, that can help.[/QUOTE]Wth STIs, you should not judge a book by its cover (or non cover). I have got STIs needing medical help three times and at least twice was from clean looking girls. With women, STIs are often asymptomic, no signs. Using your logic, the scruffy guy might be safer as he is not dipping his wick so often / easily and he may be less arrogant. STI clinicis in places like pattaya are not going out of busimess and gullible good looking guiys are part of the reason for that.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3022384]So how is a person able to tell if someone has a disease by simply seeing them first? If this was possible then probably nobody would have a disease.[/QUOTE]You are right, often enough you cannot tell if a person has a disease just by looking at him. I think it's more a question of the girl feeling in control. If she agrees to bareback on the phone, she has to admit to herself that she's one of those girls that fuck everybody bareback. If she agrees to bareback only after foreplay, she can claim that she does it only for a few selected clean customers. Her personal risk of catching a disease will probably not change much but she will feel much better about herself.
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[QUOTE=Jarango;3022474]Wth STIs, you should not judge a book by its cover (or non cover). I have got STIs needing medical help three times and at least twice was from clean looking girls. With women, STIs are often asymptomic, no signs. Using your logic, the scruffy guy might be safer as he is not dipping his wick so often / easily and he may be less arrogant. STI clinicis in places like pattaya are not going out of busimess and gullible good looking guiys are part of the reason for that.[/QUOTE]Yesterday one ThaiFriendly girl contacted me in hope of developing a long term relationship. When I told her I had visited Thailand 10 times in the past, she rejected me because of excess familiarity with Thai women. She even blocked me on TF. I don't know if that was me getting accused of being a butterfly or being accused of carrying STDs.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3022513]Yesterday one ThaiFriendly girl contacted me in hope of developing a long term relationship. When I told her I had visited Thailand 10 times in the past, she rejected me because of excess familiarity with Thai women. She even blocked me on TF. I don't know if that was me getting accused of being a butterfly or being accused of carrying STDs.[/QUOTE]Most likely she believed you already know too much about Thailand and Thai women, and thus might not be easily fooled by her.
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[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3022467]If you were a Pattaya girl, would you rather bareback a clean looking sober and polite gentleman, or some drunk stinky untidy dude who looks like he's been dug up?[/QUOTE]Would they rather? They can say no to barebacking both. No law that says they have to pick someone to bareback.
[QUOTE=Intrepid123;3022467]On top of everything, I also carry a recent (and legit) std report, that can help.[/QUOTE]You know how many "recent and legit" covid vax cards and tests I had during covid? Zero. Made them all myself with a copy machine and Acrobat. Even had a QR Code one. But who knew the difference?
Look. I bareback chicks everyday. I would definitely not go above and beyond or beg them or pay more to do it though. If I do not feel like shaving then I am sure as shit not going to shave in hopes that some chick will be inclined to bareback. I do not put that much emphasis on pussy in my life. And it is usually a Murphy's Law thing. For folks that care nothing about it, then it presents itself at every turn. For folks so anxious trying to make it happen, they usually end up with zero.