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I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?
I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2323973]I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?
I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.[/QUOTE]Each to their own. If you don't want any of your girls to actually enjoy it, that is up to you. I happen to like girls that really get into it, and them getting off on DATY is usually a good start, they can get quite passionate.
I understand where you are coming from in a way. I find Dan's talk about masterbating the lady a bit strange, but that is his way, where I prefer DATY. Similarly I like a good BBBJ but never take a handjob from a girl. Just doesn't interest me much and they mostly do it badly.
Hours is a bit of an exaggeration. Very sensitive girls can cum from DATY in less than two minutes and then take multiple pops. Very difficult to cum girls could take up to 25 mins to get relaxed and to get to the right style of DATY. One Columbian hooker, claimed I was the first guy that ever made her cum in the FKK shop called "The Palace" (from a long extended DATY). Could have been fibbing, one does not know. I agree that 25 minutes of DATY could be tiresome and give you a jaw ache (not to mention wasted time if clock is ticking). However if I have 60 minutes with the girl or more, I am not going to use the entire time in BBBJ and fucking. Most girls will not need more than 10 mins of DATY. The tongue is a very strong muscle and never ever tires. Only the jaw.
I don't think I would getting a regular fuck with my Mrs now if she wasn't very keen on the DATY. I am more than willing to service her every day. I can still do DATY even if too inebriated for my dick to be working properly. This is a bit like guys who want a BBBJ to get off and don't even want to try to fuck the girl (too lazy I guess or dick works better in BBBJ).
Guys like a really good BBBJ and cum more easily from that. Similarly girls like a very good DATY, and according to Dan, they like a good hand job too. Girls can get multiple pops from DATY too if they choose. None of my regular girls is knocking back DATY unless they are on a period. I find that most like it, and most want it in the warm up to sex to get them juiced up etc. And really in the mood. I have a DATY skills. No point to waste it. Similarly a girl with any great skills should use them and not waste them.
Girls certainly will be disinterested by DATY if it not a good one, and not all girls like exactly the same thing or same way. Likewise I would rather skip the BBBJ than suffer a bad one.
You like to lie back and have the girl do the servicing. Great. No problem for me, and I am not puzzled by it. I just don't require rimming etc. I am probably more of a doer than a receiver, most of the time. I have been to a BJ parlour for BJ only, but very rare. I always wanted to do DATY and fucking as well.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2323973]I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?
I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.[/QUOTE]I enjoy doing it and doing makes me hornier for the girl. I am not moved one way or another by whatever subservience or power play element might be found in it.
Denying myself the pleasure of moving my tongue over the girl's pussy and only laying there to feel her tongue on my dick and balls would, imo, be like denying myself the pleasure of running my hands over her body and only laying there like a lox, submitting myself to be touched by her.
You know, there is an onerous rule in most American strip joints that the girl giving you a lapdance can touch and kiss the customer but the customer dare not touch or move to kiss her. The key word there being "onerous". They don't enforce that rule as a favor to the customer or to enhance his enjoyment of the experience. Quite the opposite.
Don't you get a woody when you move your hand over the girl's bare skin, her breasts, her pussy? Why would that dynamic only apply to your hand and suddenly come to a halt for your tongue and lips?
Each to their own when it comes to DATY and how much they pay for a girl.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as is licking pussy. Amen.
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Don't you get a woody when you move your hand over the girl's bare skin, her breasts, her pussy? Why would that dynamic only apply to your hand and suddenly come to a halt for your tongue and lips?[/QUOTE]Yes spot on. Some of us are mouth / tongue oriented, whether is be licking / sucking her tongue or her pussy, or her ass, etc. I am a very avid tongue user. Nothing makes my dick go up faster than very sexy tongue play.
I am not going to waste time on giving a girl a long DATY if she is not into it. It should benefitting her, not just me. If I would move to skip the DATY, many of my girls will remind they want it first.
If a girl has an extremely beautiful pussy, rather than messy scraggly lips, that make a difference to me too. I am getting of on both the feel of it and the look of it.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2323983]only laying there like a lox[/QUOTE]As long as I am the lox and not her, that's hot!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2323995]If I would move to skip the DATY, many of my girls will remind they want it first.[/QUOTE]All escorts around the world will let a guy DATY for the entire session. Easiest way for them to make money.
I remember refusing DATY on a French escort and she got very upset saying I was lazy. She just wanted easy money laying there doing nothing. I only do DATY in 69 position and only if it is a perfect meatless pussy. No Hope Solo for this guy.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2323995]If I would move to skip the DATY, many of my girls will remind they want it first.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, DATY is an almost sure fire way to turn a girl on. I like to perform it on girls because I like it, duh, and also because it turns them on, opens them up, lubricates them, and pretty much ensures the session is going to be good. The only reason why I wouldn't perform it is when my 6th sense says, "no no, better not."
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2324008]All escorts around the world will let a guy DATY for the entire session. Easiest way for them to make money.
I remember refusing DATY on a French escort and she got very upset saying I was lazy. She just wanted easy money laying there doing nothing. I only do DATY in 69 position and only if it is a perfect meatless pussy. No Hope Solo for this guy.[/QUOTE]Some working girls don't want DATY because they don't want to have an orgasm. They say it makes them sleepy and slows them down. Other girls might not want it because they are shy LOL. I love it when a girl covers her face out of modesty as I am going down on her. I had 2 girls do that this trip including one of my new favorites, my RB2 girl.
I like 69 too. It turns me on! On this trip I enjoyed 69 with a La Belle girl and my last Pin Up Go Go girl down in Pattaya. Oh yeah, and with Mini too. I prefer shaved, but I have gone down on certain pretty Chinese girls with hair. It's gnarly! RB2 has a little close cropped Bush too. Rock and' Roll.
P.S. Enjoyed my 1st night in the PI. Met a 19 year old Spinner. No 69, but we barebacked in the shower under the Rain Forest overhead faucet. A first time for me - the overhead faucet, not barebacking in the shower. 555. Later she told me about her film career. When she was 18 she starred in a video with her then boyfriend having anal sex. I asked her if she liked anal and she said no, it hurts. I then asked how much she got for the video. She said 15,000 peso. Later she told me she likes girls and has licked 6 girls thus far, but she quickly added that she is not lesbian. She likes boys and she also likes girls too. So, stayed tuned for further developments over in the MNL section. What did I say about Catholic Asian girls who speak English? That they are wild!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2324020]Some working girls don't want DATY because they don't want to have an orgasm. They say it slows them down. Other girls might not want it because they are shy LOL. I love it when a girl covers her face out of modesty as I am going down on her. I had 2 girls do that this trip including one of my new favorites, my RB2 girl.
[/QUOTE]Yes agreed. Some girls think they won't be affected by the DATY, then after a short time, they will say please stop it now, as they don't want to cum. Others just give in to it. Some can resist it. There are all types. My girls won't be typical or even normal, quite likely, since I selected them.
BB thinks a girl will allow DATY for the whole time. This is not so. If its a bad DATY they will get bored with it. most likely. If they reach orgasm, they will largely need a pause, due to being too sensitive, even if is a brief one. Then likely they will prefer to fuck or do something else rather than continue the DATY. Yes I agree with him though. I have met girls who wanted very long DATY for time wasting reasons, and likely no cum. Not all girls are that way. Most customers do believe thay have a right to be lazy tsince they are paying, however I respond much better to a girl that is really into it. Not many are such fabulous actresses. Bad acting is not working for me.
My Crazy House girl Oom, was into sex in a big way, but found it very hard to cum, maybe needed high power sex. Maybe needed a young handsome stud. She did not seem to see any point to lie about it. Maybe she got a cum only 25% of the time. If she did ever cum, was usually from the DATY. She would put a pillow over her face. I was puzzled. Is it that she did not want see me down there on her pussy, or did not want to see my face (not handsome enough) or did not want me to see the expressions on her face when getting into the DATY? Several possibilities but related to shyness. The last reason is most likely because could have just closed her eyes. If she did cum she would not allow me to touch her pussy again for at least two minutes recovery time, and that is quite typical of many girls. Most girls want to dim the lights too. Largely a shyness issue, or ugly customer issue.
Got one from the Mrs late last night. Today at 2 pm she comes into bedroom, probably has been smoking weed. Its very hot. She lies down with her G-string showing and asks for the big 20 inch fan. I go get it. She tells me to go take a cold shower. The hints are too much I know she wants a DATY and a fuck. Am I going to be lazy and say I can't be bothered to give the DATY, and spoil the high level of opportunities I have been getting? No way. We have to be prepared to make girls really like the sex, if we are going to get a lot.
Once I had a wife that was horny only once a month and she never wanted a DATY. It is a good change for me when a girl is getting horny very often.
My regular Gik always reminds me, she would not be coming to visit if she did not like me or my sex. She likes how I am laid back, not jealous, she can tell me nearly anything, including other guys she met, we can communicate in two languages equally well. She needs a long duration, a deep dick, and a good DATY. She is hot enough that she has lots of guys wanting to fuck her. I am not young, handsome, or very wealthy. So have to have something worthwhile to offer, not just money. Last time she claimed not to have had a guy give her a cum for weeks. Not easy to get there for her.
Most guys expect a great BBBJ or forget it. Girls can likewise expect a great DATY, if money is not the pure objective.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2323973]I find all this DATY talk to be odd. If you are willing to be subservient to the woman and provide her DATY for hours, why not just stick with a white feminist American woman who earns good money on her own for free?
I personally prefer to lay back and have the girls rim and service me rather than me performing DATY on them. No kissing, no DATY, just their tongue in my ass then they ride me while I just lay there.[/QUOTE]OR. Why DATY a working girl who's gotten screwed a few times in the past 24 hours. Or kiss a girl who took a CIM just 2 hours prior.
Hello guys,
I'm looking for a good and discrete outcall service (no smooci) something more hidden maybe by line chat where I can pick a girl that can come to my condo.
I don't like girls on smooci and most of the few beautiful girl they have are overpriced.
Maybe even massage with HJ service if you guys have some.
If anyone have any tips!
Thanks.
I like 69 too. It turns me on! On this trip I enjoyed 69 with a La Belle girl and my last Pin Up Go Go girl down in Pattaya. Oh yeah, and with Mini too. I prefer shaved, but I have gone down on certain pretty Chinese girls with hair. It's gnarly! RB2 has a little close cropped Bush too. Rock and' Roll.
I suspect if she's covering her face its not modesty.
Its more likely revulsion.
She knows what's been dripping out of that hole all day (everyday).
#realmenneveroverpay.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2324026]Once I had a wife that was horny only once a month and she never wanted a DATY. It is a good change for me when a girl is getting horny very often.[/QUOTE]Your wife is Thai? Call me skeptical, but that seems a bad sign if she didn't want sex more than once a month, then all of a sudden wants you to service her often now even though you don't have any skills that you didn't have before. I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but it's highly possible she had a Thai man (possibly even husband) servicing her on the side, and he has now left her for another woman so she needs more sex from you. In effect, that isn't really bad news, but good news since he appears to be out of the picture now.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2324042]Your wife is Thai? Call me skeptical, but that seems a bad sign if she didn't want sex more than once a month, then all of a sudden wants you to service her often now even though you don't have any skills that you didn't have before. [/QUOTE]No you are completely off. Ex wife was Farang that was horny once a month. My new Thai woman has been around for years but now in her sexual prime. I pointed out the herbs smoking and beer relax her and make her much more horny than before. Also she is not getting sore pussy to recover from any more.
My ex wife was never into DATY, perhaps indeed I was not skilled enough but her pussy did not taste good anyway. At age 35, I was trained up by a Thai girl from Songkhla into how to do DATY really well (that was after split from ex wife). It is not an totally obvious skill, to do just right. Years of experience now, do not go amiss, since different girls like it differently.
For those guys, not into DATY, it is unlikely you will be doing it well, when requested, IMHO. Practice and experience makes better. How many girls get off without DATY, or a vibe, or self finger stimulation, or cowgirl position, etc. Not many in my experience.
Various Thai girls have complained to me about their spunky young handsome guy being poor in bed and selfish, one even indicated he did not stay hard long enough for her to get herself off in cowgirl position, and was always popping before she got close to her pleasure. I had to suggest to dose him with Kamagra to try to get his dick to stay up longer, even he was a young man.
For those that don't do good DATY, I believe cowgirl position is ideal for the girl to control the movement and how her clit rubs against the guy. Many girls can cum in cowgirl position. Dick scared girls rarely want cowgirl. They may enjoy a DATY though. My Mrs does not do cowgirl. She likes me to do the work. Doggy is working great though. She was once a very mildly dick scared type, but not to the point of stiff legs. Just scared of hurting afterwards. Not any more. Really into it, these days.
In the early days of me and her in Bangkok, she could have had other guys. I don't know and I don't care. I was trying different girls too. In the province, it would be very hard to be playing up without close relatives and the general community noticing something suspicious. I don't go out on the town at all out here. Would be too obvious what I was up to. The Mrs is hot (for a Milf) and surely has local admirers of both looks, her fun attitude, and her house, etc. Her closest male friends are her real brother(with his wife and kid) and her mother's brother (with his wife), and their two sons (both with wives and kids). No big deal. No suspicious guys hanging around. Its very much a family oriented place.
I have to keep my mongering well separated now. The Mrs could be more horny because there is no longer any suspicion I will go out on town to play up. Puts her in a better frame of mind. In old days she obviously accepted I would play up sometimes. It is quite heard to keep all signs of it hidden.
I like DATY with some girls, hygiene- and girl- permitting. I also like digital stimulation which offer the advantage of being able to watch her face as she cums or to take care of her breasts, torso, mouth with ones own lips. DATY can be most rewarding when she's really into it, not half-heartedly into it.