Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

I must disagree. I told them exactly what I wanted BEFORE I paid. Further, can you tell me where I can get a balls massage that ISN'T a fuckshop? The idea behind a balls massage only is that if you do that, then wait 24 hours, you will have a way better than normal orgasm. That was the entire point. I would have gone back to the same shop the next day, to the same girl, if she hadn't been so rude. Again, I was totally clear before I ever gave the money. I said,"balls massage only, no cum, no handjob, no blowjob, no b2b, only balls massage. At that point it's really not my fault that she didn't like it. She had plenty of opportunity to decline.

[QUOTE=M P Lurker; 1125288]You are very wrong to go to a fuck shop when you don't want to tip for sex!

I hear what you say that you tried to explain that you didn't want sex, but really you must give the girl a decent tip for her time regardless of what service you want. 1K would be a good minimum unless was a very short session.

The girl doesn't want an insulting 200 Baht from you. You are essentially asking her to work for free and she is not even a friend of yours. In this circumstance, a bad session is self evident. If you want balls massage, go to a place highly recommended by the forum.

Lets make one thing very very clear. What is euphemistically known as a "tip" at Oily MPs (sexual types) is not a tip at all. It is not optional. The downstairs payment to the establishment does not cover the girl at all. She has to paid independently for her time, work, and service. Its like an unwritten unspoken contract.

If I gave the girl 2K, then since really 1. 5K is standard for sex, so only the additional 500 is really a tip for good service.

If things keep going like this, soon every establishment will change to charge full all inclusive price downstairs, and I know many forum members do not like that approach.

Pick a non-sexual establishment next time please. These work on a totally different basis!

I am sure your session with Bo was brilliant because you did little else, but sex. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1125642]Can I respectuflly request some advice on where to get the same service you got from your Mango's girl from white women in Europe?

Thnaks in advance. [/QUOTE]Well good experiences can be had in Prague and in Germany. Thai massage parlors with extras operate in about every large city in Europe. You can take a girl in Eastern Europe and if you connect right similar experiences can be had. I'm not trying to diss Thai women and I had a lovely time with them but I question if it is worth traveling all the way to Thailand for sex and the additional time and expense compared to the services available closer to home. What I spent getting here would buy loads of Eastern European ass back home.

OK if you are retired with loads of free time, a large pension rolling in and no worrys about STD's as you have had your marriage, wife and kids by now and you might as well enjoy yourself because if you catch something it will mean nothing with modern treatments and you will be dead in a few years anyway so you make the best of it while you can.

[QUOTE=Winthorp; 1125704]Well good experiences can be had in Prague and in Germany. Thai massage parlors with extras operate in about every large city in Europe. You can take a girl in Eastern Europe and if you connect right similar experiences can be had. I'm not trying to diss Thai women and I had a lovely time with them but I question if it is worth traveling all the way to Thailand for sex and the additional time and expense compared to the services available closer to home. What I spent getting here would buy loads of Eastern European ass back home.

OK if you are retired with loads of free time, a large pension rolling in and no worrys about STD's as you have had your marriage, wife and kids by now and you might as well enjoy yourself because if you catch something it will mean nothing with modern treatments and you will be dead in a few years anyway so you make the best of it while you can. [/QUOTE]Please be more specific.

I have been to many Thia massage parlours in Europe, Paris, London etc. What you get, most of the time, is a lousy massage by a semi clothed girl and either a HJ for some 30 E extras or a CBJ for 50. Yes, occasionnally, I have got FS, after repeated visits, but one pop, on an uncomfortable massage table, in silence, for 150 E. I have been to Prague, and I did not find a place where I could have 2h of play. 2-3 pops, DFK, DATY, even anal if that's your thing, mattress play, assisted showers, BBBJCIM, etc. For less than 150 euros, which is common in BKK.

I am also familiar with the FKKs, and if it is true that after paying your entry fee of 75 E, you can have basic Fuck and suck for 50 E, you need to pay 50 E extra for Cim. 100 for anal etc.

Not to suggest that everyone should go to BKK just for sex, in fact, I just like to stop there on my way to Japan, rather than stay longer time, but to each his own; However BKK has an atmosphere which is very sexually charged, and this is something you don't find in Europe. I spent 24h last month, had my hair cut, feet massaged, nails clipped and ears cleaned by 3 wonderful young women working simultaneously. Then a nice 2 pop session aT snow white, with all the extras that I could manage. Then a fantastic fully legit Thai massage. Then a no less fantasdtic session in Akane. All that cost me around 300 GBP all incuded. I wish I could do that occasionnally in Europe.

IMHO, to say that you have better value for money with white women in Europe as opposed to Thai girls, well, seems a bit overstretched.

STD's: What's make you think that the risks are linked to the place where you fuck? It is linked to your sexual behaviors, wherever you are. Fuck BB, even in Europe, and you increases (slightly) your risks. Same in Thailand. Actually, getting an uncovered BJ in a massage parlour in London, is highly unhygienic, since no one seems to shower in those places, while you are thorougly cleaned in any soapy or oily in BKK. Fuck covered, and there are no more risks in Thailand that elsewhere. Whatever you choose is definitively your choice and not up for discussion, but I can't see the point in this discussion about Thai vs white girls.

True, if you are old, and do not have a regular wife / GF, you are less concerned, and you may decide to take less precautions. Most of us to indulge in BBBJ, but I can understand if someone prefers CBJ. I have occasionnaly caught, most likely after BBBJs, (in fact in Europe, never in Asia. See why above) some bugs, but I got rid of them with 2 pills. I do not fuck BB by respect for the girls, not necessarily by fear of Aids.

[QUOTE=Some American;1125680]I must disagree. I told them exactly what I wanted BEFORE I paid. Further, can you tell me where I can get a balls massage that ISN'T a fuckshop? The idea behind a balls massage only is that if you do that, then wait 24 hours, you will have a way better than normal orgasm. That was the entire point. I would have gone back to the same shop the next day, to the same girl, if she hadn't been so rude. Again, I was totally clear before I ever gave the money. I said,"balls massage only, no cum, no handjob, no blowjob, no b2b, only balls massage. At that point it's really not my fault that she didn't like it. She had plenty of opportunity to decline.[/QUOTE]You are in Thailand, and in a Massage Shop. You can explain to the Cashier, Manager, or provider whatever you want, it does not really amount to much. I can't honestly Blame the girl because out of the whole massage she probably makes 50thb (or even zero in some shops) so pushing for extras are the only way they can earn money.

Most of them don't know how to massage anyway and in my opinion, getting a balls massage from a lady who does not know what she is doing can create more harm than good. I would not go as far as saying it could permanently damage your manhood but I don't rule it out.

If you want a GREAT massage and a GREAT balls massage from a Really gifted provider then go to HANA Massage Sukhumvit soi 22 and ask for RIN, she is in her fifties but her massage skills are above average and her balls massage is the best I have had in Thailand. She really knows what she is doing.

She offers all kinds of services (BBBJCIM, Anal.) but if you only want the Balls Massage, tell her and she will do just that. Not too pushy.

Good Luck

Went to Victoria Massage@Soi 39 twice over the last month and had the pleasure of going with the only stunners in the shop OIL and GRACE, here are my comments:OIL: Went for "Special" only. Best BBBJ in a very long time, slow and licked lead, looked me in the eye while sucking, licked my balls and rode me very well Cowgirl. 25 years old. Friendly and charming. Claimed I was her first Arab customer. Refused to service me when I requested 2nd hour because my dick was too long for her, maybe it was an excuse because it was 10 PM already.GRACE: Went for "Special" only. BBBJ was good but not as good as OIL. Catbath but no DFK. Missionary and Cowgirl. Bigger tits and tighter pussy than OIL. 20 years old.Overall, good service (brought me drinks at no extra cost) , rooms are clean and the AC was a nice touch.Damage: 2000 baht all-inclusive the first time. 1900 baht all-inclusive the second time. Spent 1 hour both times.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1125746]....IMHO, to say that you have better value for money with white women in Europe as opposed to Thai girls, well, seems a bit overstretched.....[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing

Nick, you're right, of course. I do think that there is a limit to pushiness and I tend to get pissed off when I'm pushed and pushed, especially when I've already answered. Again, I want to say that I was fully ready and willing to tip that girl until the very end when she literally threw my change back at me. I simply can't abide that.

I will go see Rin today. I remember her from a couple years ago and you're right. She's great.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1125763]You are in Thailand, and in a Massage Shop. You can explain to the Cashier, Manager, or provider whatever you want, it does not really amount to much. I can't honestly Blame the girl because out of the whole massage she probably makes 50thb (or even zero in some shops) so pushing for extras are the only way they can earn money.

Most of them don't know how to massage anyway and in my opinion, getting a balls massage from a lady who does not know what she is doing can create more harm than good. I would not go as far as saying it could permanently damage your manhood but I don't rule it out.

If you want a GREAT massage and a GREAT balls massage from a Really gifted provider then go to HANA Massage Sukhumvit soi 22 and ask for RIN, she is in her fifties but her massage skills are above average and her balls massage is the best I have had in Thailand. She really knows what she is doing.

She offers all kinds of services (BBBJCIM, Anal.) but if you only want the Balls Massage, tell her and she will do just that. Not too pushy.

Good Luck[/QUOTE]

I somewhat agree with your thoughts, Thailand has become very expensive as compared to few years ago. Everything has gone up quite a bit and cost of mongering is getting close to what it would be in big cities like Toronto or Sydney.It is about 66% of what I would pay in Toronto but the main difference is of couse the huge amount of no hassle choice, generally very good bang for the buck and that I can get double the time vs what I would get in Toronot or Sydney. But still price is catching up and soon it may not be worthwhile to fly to Bangkok anymore if this trend does not reverse.[QUOTE=Winthorp; 1125704]Well good experiences can be had in Prague and in Germany. Thai massage parlors with extras operate in about every large city in Europe. You can take a girl in Eastern Europe and if you connect right similar experiences can be had. I'm not trying to diss Thai women and I had a lovely time with them but I question if it is worth traveling all the way to Thailand for sex and the additional time and expense compared to the services available closer to home. What I spent getting here would buy loads of Eastern European ass back home.OK if you are retired with loads of free time, a large pension rolling in and no worrys about STD's as you have had your marriage, wife and kids by now and you might as well enjoy yourself because if you catch something it will mean nothing with modern treatments and you will be dead in a few years anyway so you make the best of it while you can. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Some American;1125926]I want to say that I was fully ready and willing to tip that girl until the very end when she literally threw my change back at me. I simply can't abide that.[/QUOTE]I can't disagree with you, you did exactly what I would have done, I can't abide bad attitude either.

My advice next time would be to let her know beforehand that:

1. You want only massage and Balls Massage.

2. Tell her you want Good Massage and Long Balls Massage.

3. Tell her you will give her good tip (she will relax and then not push for Extras anymore)

I think in your case the lady was just upset to have worked for nothing. You had the intention to tip her but she had no way of knowing that and seeing all the Cheapos floating around Thailand, I am guessing she was in this situation more than once. Maybe she was nice and smiley the first time but after a while.

Anyway, I can't really speak too much about this, especially after my disastrous experience at Dream Massage. But hey, this is Thailand.

Good luck with RIN. Have not seen her in a long time and heard she is now showing her years. But still the best deep tissue Massage-balls massage combination in Bangkok!

[QUOTE=Margaya;1125931]It is about 66% of what I would pay in Toronto [...] But still price is catching up and soon it may not be worthwhile to fly to Bangkok anymore if this trend does not reverse.[/QUOTE]If you're concerned about price, why do you pay 130% the going rate at Mango? Doesn't seem likely to help reverse the trend.

There is a Rumor Spreading that Miss ICE is giving STDs to her customers. Now it is probably someone making this up, but that also would not surprise me if it was true. These ladies have sex with about 5 to 10 guys per day? (give or take) and many of their services (BBBJCIM, Rimming, DATY.) are without protection so they are bound to catch something and unfortunately spread it.

The most IMPORTANT thing to do for us Mongers is to try and Protect each other the best possible way and that is by TELLING the girls when they give you something nasty.

Most STD take days or weeks before they present any symptom so the girl could be spreading an STD she does not even know she has. And let's not kid ourselves that they do the STDs tests properly.

Telling the girl will not only help her, but also help your fellow hobbyists.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126260]There is a Rumor Spreading that Miss ICE is giving STDs to her customers. Now it is probably someone making this up, but that also would not surprise me if it was true. These ladies have sex with about 5 to 10 guys per day? (give or take) and many of their services (BBBJCIM, Rimming, DATY.) are without protection so they are bound to catch something and unfortunately spread it.

The most IMPORTANT thing to do for us Mongers is to try and Protect each other the best possible way and that is by TELLING the girls when they give you something nasty.

Most STD take days or weeks before they present any symptom so the girl could be spreading an STD she does not even know she has. And let's not kid ourselves that they do the STDs tests properly.

Telling the girl will not only help her, but also help your fellow hobbyists. [/QUOTE]Nic,

Whilst I don't disagree with your message, unless you have only 'liaised' with one lass, how on earth can anyone point the finger at a particular provider?

[QUOTE=Bangkok Xx Bob; 1126307]Nic,

Whilst I don't disagree with your message, unless you have only 'liaised' with one lass, how on earth can anyone point the finger at a particular provider? [/QUOTE]You're right, but sometimes you can kind of have hints of who it can be (condom broke with Provider A, you got a BBBJ CIM with Provider B.) so it is guesswork, but it's a hell of a lot better than going online an posting about the STD. It won't help cure the girl.

I remember 2 years ago I had a discharge out of my penis one morning and went to the hospital, got checked and it was a minor infection. I still went and contacted both girls I slept with that week, just so they be careful (both were Regulars of mine).

You know what? We are living in a sick world and I know a few old guys that can only do BBFS. They simply don't care if they catch anything because they're way too old to be worried about saving a couple years. I think it's selfish attitude but it happens so better protect ourselves the best we can.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126260]There is a Rumor Spreading that Miss ICE is giving STDs to her customers. Now it is probably someone making this up, but that also would not surprise me if it was true. These ladies have sex with about 5 to 10 guys per day? (give or take) and many of their services (BBBJCIM, Rimming, DATY.) are without protection so they are bound to catch something and unfortunately spread it.

The most IMPORTANT thing to do for us Mongers is to try and Protect each other the best possible way and that is by TELLING the girls when they give you something nasty.

Most STD take days or weeks before they present any symptom so the girl could be spreading an STD she does not even know she has. And let's not kid ourselves that they do the STDs tests properly.

Telling the girl will not only help her, but also help your fellow hobbyists. [/QUOTE]There is a firm denial from Ice and from Mango. They say they checked everything this month, and it was ok. I asked for the exact date of the check, and will post as soon as I have it. Anyway, you might ask to be shown the bulletin.

[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1126397]There is a firm denial from Ice and from Mango. They say they checked everything this month, and it was ok. I asked for the exact date of the check, and will post as soon as I have it. Anyway, you might ask to be shown the bulletin.[/QUOTE]Well since it's a 'firm' denial I am apt to believe them but why would Ice or Mango or anyone else in the business admit to you that they are infected and are infecting their customers? We all play at our own risk and sometimes we get burnt because it's a part of the game. Asking these girls if they are infected and expecting a truthful answer is like asking a politician to be honest.