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I recall reading posts where FKK girls admitted reading WSG, and you can be damn sure there writing there own posts as well. I am a little suspicious of some of these RLD (red light district) posts being so critical of them, often ending with "better go to FKK instead".
Cheers Nickc
[QUOTE=Nickc]Cheers Guys
I recall reading posts where FKK girls admitted reading WSG, and you can be damn sure there writing there own posts as well. I am a little suspicious of some of these RLD (red light district) posts being so critical of them, often ending with "better go to FKK instead".
Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]To be honest Nick, no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK. I guess you've done neither,, or you wouldn't be asking the question. So, my advice to you is to go and have a look round the RLD. And then set aside a day to relax in a decent FKK. There is really no comparison.
Brothers.
Will try to do this in five parts, first four covering morning and afternoon of each day and last some general comments. May be my swan song. After 30 years of mongering in US, Canada, Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Brazil and Europe, with travel courtesy of my employers, I will retire next year and may not have another chance to visit an FKK. So I offer this by way of thanks to those who have provided such invaluable advice that enabled me to find and fully enjoy these marvelous places.
Arrived in FRA at noon on Friday, after 10 hour flight, including 8.5 hours of Ambien induced sleep. Had worked out and eaten well for a month prior to trip so arrived rested and ready. Took Cialis 12 hours before leaving and again on arrival so that department was covered. No sign of flu on the flight.
Took S8 and U6/7 to Industriehof. Advise anybody planning more than one visit to use public transit. Takes a bit of learning but once you do is easy, convenient, cheaper and almost as fast as a taxi.
Checked into Flemings hotel in a room that was spitting distance from Palace. Aware that Ibis is cheaper, but love the Fleming efficiency, cleanliness and proximity to Palace. Always a beautiful recptionist who much be aware why so many single men register for one night. LIke it close by so I can take a break in the middle of a 10-12 hour visit to get a hot shower, make phone calls and rest up away from the girls and the noise.
Showered, shaved, including some private parts, put on some cologne and walked short distance to Palace, arriving about 2 p.m. Brought my own sandals as I dont like the style of flip flops they offer there.
Very mellow afternoon atmosphere. Maybe 20 girls and about same number of guys. Girls all nekkid, as I remembered and prefer. Donned a towel. Why use a robe? When some hot chick wants to rub her tits over you why make it difficult?
Toured the place and settled in the Kino where I quickly joined by
EVA from Greece, curvey blonde, DD tits and dirtly blonde hair. Very gentle and mellow with BBBJ started in Kino and finished with a facial in the room. Great start to the trip and 100 Euro gone. Should probably say here that I grew up in the era when Playboy magazine was the only educational material about a subjedct we all think about at least once every waking hour of every day for the rest of our lives. So while I like all types of good looking women I was kind of conditioned to prefer the centerfold type: blonde with a build that my friend describes as "two cantalopes on a popsicle stick".
Showered, rested and snoozed in the relax room near the pool behind the big bar. Nice addition so you can rest up but still see some of the parade.
Back to Kino where I soon was accosted by
GEORGIANNA, from EE, D cup, slender. Previewed BBBJ in Kino to delight of audience. Offered anal, but didn't push it. Only one of hte 14 girls I sesioned wiht did a hard upsell. About half of the others mentioned the sevices they offered in an informational, not sales, way. Rest just didnt say. Off to zimmer. Mechanical but satisfactory session. Didnt complete. 50 Euro.
Again another shower and rest and back to the fray. Stopped on a tour of the main room by a hot blonde:
JANITA who led me into the kino. Blonde, big fake tits, from Bulgaria as I recall. Very friendly and enthusiastic. After tryout in the Kino off to the room for a BBBJTCCIM and a bit of a facial.
By this time it was about 6 p.m. and I left for Flemings to rest, make phone calls and take a hot shower (biggest drawback of Palace is short duration and cold water in showers).
Second half of hte day to follow
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Back to Palace from Flemings about 7:30 pm Nice that the Frauen at the check-in allow you to leave and come back without paying again. Just have to show them your passport. Arrived just on the heels of two guys in leather coats who identified themselves to the desk as police. Frau who appeared to be the manger hurried out to greet them with great deference and offered to let them look around. By the time I had changed and secured a locker they were gone. Seemed routine and regular occurrance. If it had been a raid I doubt they would have come with only two guys.
Had some dinner, a kind of pork stew on noodles with salad, in the new restaurant. Another great addition since I was last there. Keeps the food out of the main hall and allows interaction with the girls at the long tables. I was joined by a knockout blonde who introduced herself as Kelly from Lithuania. Dazzling smile. Said she worked there two weeks every few months to make enough money to live well back home.
Finished and relaxed again for an hour to let dinner settle and went back to Kino. I like the Kino because I enjoy watching the live shows as well as the movies and feel that if I am going to benefit from somebody else's show I should provide some of my own as well. Also allows you to preview the talents of the various young ladies.
I fended off a few who did not appeal. This should be done in a firm but polite manner, with some excuse such as I just ate or just had a session and need to rest up but maybe see you later. Fine to allow them to make a pitch and feel you up fora few minutes, but don't waste their time or yours if you don't intend to go any further.
Moved down to the bed just to the right of the door when a young lady appeared before me. Couldn't see her in the movie light, so asked her name. "It's Kelly, " she laughed. "We just had dinner." She sat down beside me and soon found that I was ready to go again. Great deep throat, first in Kino and then in zimmer. Particularly liked when she kneeled in front and I could put my hand below her chin and feel me going all the way down her throat. Lots of spitting with BJ and dirty talk and muliple positions with the sex. Smiling and enthusiasm as she took the CIF lying on her side facing my mind sectoin. 100 Euro. Worth every cent. Would repeat with her on next visit.
Then, there she was, the queen of the Palace: Angelina, in her usual post at the rail by the bar with her huge tits hanging down. She didn't seem to approach anybody, so I went up and said hello. Was that my mistake? She seemed cold. We exchanged names and I asked if she wanted to come sit with me. No, she said. I am fine here. OK, so I left. Too bad. I had done research and had her on my list. But seemed that the rest of time I was there, while she was busy, it was always the guy who instigated the conversation and after 15 seconds of talk, off they would go to the room. I like a little chit chat and prefer to be able to squeeze the fruit a bit before I buy.
Oh well, there were plenty of other fish in the sea, starting with:
MANUALLA, from Columbia, dirty blonde with slightly chunky build and D cups. Met her in Kino. Great kisser with full tongue action. Another part timer who comes three or four times a year to supplement regular inocme as a sales person for a computer company. What a world. Great BBBJ with deep throat, eye contact and lots of moaning and dirty talk in Spanish and English. Finished with another CIM and she offered a full body massge at no extra cost. 100 Euros.
Shower, a snack, and another snooze. Figured I mgiht well be done for the day. It was well past midnight. Took another stop in the Kino where was met by
NATASHA, small brested blonde with light brown hair who said she was from Hungary. Called me Darling in a Boris and Natasha accent. Told her I mgiht be all done, but her hands proved otherwise. Soon was enjoying a full deep throat expreience in front of all the audience in the Kino. She asked if I wanted to finish there or in a room. Looked for room but all were full. So opted for the curtained cubes near the VIP Room What is up with that? Who needs it? Miss when it was a kind of voyeur-partcipant room open to all and you could be fucking a chick while watching two or three other couples gong at it.
Natash's deep throat was so compelling that I jut let her go for the next 20 minutes, finally finishing in her mouth. 100 Eruos.
Off to Flemings about 2 am For five hours sleep before heading back to airport. Will report on Oct. 7 visit in next section.
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back to fra on oct. 7, arriving about noon. trains to industriehof, check in to flemings. shower, shave, over to palace by about 2pm consider that it is likely to be my last day in an fkk. well prepared with cialis.
it is the dreaded dessous tag and i am wary, prepared to hop in a cab, perhaps with others, to head to oase if i have to dig through too many petticoats and corsets.
but on arrival find situation normal. nearly all the girls are in their birthday suits. decorations are going up at a fever pace in preparation for oktoberfest, set to start that evening at 8 pm
take a tour. about 20 girls and maybe a dozen guys. sleepy and relazed. settle in the kino and am joined by
gena (i think) from koln. brown hair with blonde highlights, d cup bolt ons, a bit chunky, but very nice. started with the bbbj in kino and moved to room where we finished with sex and a cim. not the best, not the worst. later observed she was moving them thru pretty quick. so no doubt a processor, but not overly obnoxious, at least with me. fine start to the day. 100 euro.
shower, some bread and cheese, more grapefruit juice. relaxed in the lounge by the pool and back to the fray, sittingn for a while in the main room and then wandering a bit before entering the kino where i rean into:
jules from poland. tall, with nice fake d cups and blonde hair. but turned me off a bit when she used handy wipes to wash me off before beginning a very pedestrian bbbj in the kino. off to zimmer where we went through paces without much enthusiasm. rejected offers of cim and anal. 50 euro.
same deal with rest and shower and back to kino. in walks a black haired beauty in a full, see through lace dress with nothing underneath. nice c/d cups. natural. makes eye contact and with my encouragment comes over. i had seen her perfomng previously in the kino and was impressed she sat down and introduced herself as
tamara from venezuala. almost no english and i had no spanish. went right for the bbbj and performed commendably. adjourned to room where we had a great time fucking with lots of moaning and even a fake orgasm, tho with a genuine red face. 50 euro.
said no to a bunch of approaches: sakira, natasha (tho i had had a great time with her on friday) and vicky from russia.
met a couple of fellow north americans in the relax lounge by the pool. one a rookie from vancouver who had discovered the isg web site while auditing personal use of computers on company time. warned me not to do anyting on my company computer that could invite a virus. first time in an fkk and was a bit blown away, as we all were when we first entered these halls. second guiy was from miami and had been several times before. we traded stories, agreed that the bigger fkks were better than the smaller sauna clubs at least for tourists and they listened to my lecrure on the virtues of cialis. also met up wtth fellow isger who had pmd a week earlier. from toronto and gave valuable info on strip clubs in canada (recommending montreal).
things were beginning to pick up. beer began to flow from a keg right next to the money lockers. girls began to show up in costume, tho nearly half stayed mostly naked.
sarted to feel a lilttle anxious again and heaaded back to kino now occupied by about 20 mongers and maybe three or four ladies providing various services. just as i had settled in a young lady dressed as a school girl **** bursts into the kino, stands in the middle and proclaims "i am a virgin schoolgirl and need somebody to help take my virginity."
she is:
alana, from israel, dark hair, fake c cups, slender and short, but full of fire and energy and good humor. she struts around a bit more asking for somebody to take her "virginity" and plunks down right on top of me. sure, i will play along. "ok to suck you" she whispers in my ear. sure i reply. by now we have the attention of the whole room and she announces that i will take her virginity. she sucks like a champ and then asks if i want to fuck her in the ass. who am i to say no. she flilps over into doggies position, grabs my dick and rams it into her butt, announcing to the entire room that she is now about to surrender her anal virginity. i pound her for about 10 minutes to the delight of the crowd. when i finish and we both sit up, we get a round of applause from everybody. as i walk wiht her to the lockers she says "i am a good actressno? maybe go to hollywood? " 150 euros and worth every darn cent.
need a major break here and head back to flemings for hour of r and r.
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Back to Palace about 8:30. The Oktoberfest party was in full swing. Loud music, balloons and decorations all over the place. But didn't seem to change much in terms of what was going on. About 75 girls, including some I had seen on my trip the prvious Friday, and maybe 100 guys. About half nude, most of the rest topless or in see through garb. Angelina was at her post, naked except for pink stockings (is that an Oktoberfest tradition? ). Had some dinner (Bavarian theme) with the guys from North America and learned that one had had a good experience with:
SIMONA, a very slender, blonde wiht nice enhanced D cups, from the Czech republic wearing a white bra and panty outfit. She seemed a bit shy when I sat down next to her on one of the couches by the pool. But we chatted, she kissed and grabbed for the right appendages. In the room she was very sweet and very hot. Unfortunately the room was also very hot and I had begun to sweat more than I cared for. But she performed like a champ and earned her CIM. 100 Euro.
Getting to the end of what I figured might be my last day, so resolved to make it a good time. But was foiled when I was accosted in the Kino by
ANNA from Germany. A large chested gal wearing the traditoinal german dress from which her boobs protruded. Let my instincts lapse. She started a BJ and then immediately started an aggressive upsell. But by then I was hooked. Went to a room which was again overheated. She asked if I wanted specials. I asked what they were, she ponted to the signs on the wall. When I said it would stick to normal, she got very sour. Sucked me lackluster and assumed the doggie. I didn't finish and went to pay up. 50 Euro. Only really bad experience in 14 attempts over two full days.
Returned to Janita and Kelly for my last experiences. Both were fabulous as on Friday. Asked Kelly if she had ever done a gangabang. She said she had just done one a few days before with "four boys." They didn't finissh, she said, but they had all had a wondeful time with much laughter and joking in the room. When she approached me in the Kino about 1 am I told her I had already done all I could, but she persuaded me to give it another try. She gave it all she had, but couldn't make me finish. "You are a sex machine, " she smiled. "Maybe", I said, "but right now I am out of gas."
Back to Flemings and to bed. A few final thoughts in next, and last installment.
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Final thoughts:
I have been all over the world for 30 years, and in my opinon this is the very best experience I hav ever had. Don't have much of an opinoin in the Oase v World v Palace debate. It is like difference between steak sauce and barbeque sauce. Both are good. Soem folks perfer one, some like the other. All big three FKKs are clean, comfortable, efficient, with plenty of food and drink and fabulous women. 90 percent of them would fit right in at a party at the Playboy manion and 10 percent are certifiable centefold material. Sure some are cheery and others cold, and a few try to upsell. But what ever happened, as Reagan said, to just saying no?
A wrod to the Americans. Relax, get with the local customs. Sample beforre buying. In the US you are used to going to the supermarket, picking out what you want and then paying the cashier who really doesn't care or even know what you buy. Very mechanical and impersonal. In Europe you go to a market, squeeze the fruit, chat with the vendors, listen to the pitches, maybe try a sample before buying anything. Same with the FKK. Learn to shop European style.
Food. I have heard the complaints. Both in the FKK and on the boards. Stop whining. The food is perfectly adequate and if you want more just leave for a while.
Dessous tag. Not as much of a problem as I had expected. Most were naked except for stockings and/or garters and most of those with clothes wore outfits like a 6 inch micro dress with no underwear. A few had full bikini regalia. But didn't bother me.
Robe or towel. Go with the towel. If a stunning girl wants to rub her breasts over your chest or back, why discourage her? And the robes have a nasty habit of falling open, particularly if you are a bit heavy in the gut.
Kino. I love it. Both watching and partcipating. Nothing like it I have ever seen. If you want to be assulated, this is the place to do it. And if you want to get a preview of what a particular girl might be like, you can get it here. If you want to rest undisturbed, the relax room is for that. I particularly love the Kino late at night when the old men lounge in the upper tiers like big old walruses on the rocks on the Aleutian islands and the girls come up and try to get them going.
Smoking. Glad to have a smoke free environment. Sorry to see the two rooms penned off for smokers.
Showers. Still the biggest problem. Need to run longer and need HOT WATER.
Restaurant. Big improvement over serving in the room with the small bar. Keeps the food out of the play areas and allows the mongers to mingle socially with the talent at the long dinner tables and to meet other mongers. Met a great guy from Italy there for the first time wth a bunch of buddies. They cavorted in the pool, laughing and trading jokes with each other and the girls, and frequently swapped girls. Also met a wonderful gent from Norway who comes once every couple of months. Wish I could do that.
Enjoy it. Will be thinking of you all. Cheers. Kahului
Well I will be attending the palace in about 2.5 weeks. I am petty excited! Right now I am living in hessen for work so it's a treat. I am only 26 is that a normal age? Thanks for the advice I will post when this FKK virgin plans on going for certain.
First I want to say thanks to everyone here, your information was invaluable to me since I first decided to sample the FKK scene over a year ago. But I know the only real way to say thanks is to post reports which I intend to do, starting with my next trip in a few weeks time
[QUOTE=Newguy 25]Well I will be attending the palace in about 2.5 weeks. I am petty excited! Right now I am living in hessen for work so it's a treat. I am only 26 is that a normal age? Thanks for the advice I will post when this FKK virgin plans on going for certain.[/QUOTE]I wouldnt worry about your age. I doubt you will care when you are surrounded by beautiful naked women. Sure you will be one of the younger men there but probably not the only one. I too am 26 and have never felt out of place once I step inside the palace doors.
And I will be at Palace in 2.5 weeks also
[QUOTE=Kahului]Final thoughts:
I have been all over the world for 30 years, and in my opinon this is the very best experience I hav ever had. Don't have much of an opinoin in the Oase v World v Palace debate. It is like difference between steak sauce and barbeque sauce. Both are good. Soem folks perfer one, some like the other. All big three FKKs are clean, comfortable, efficient, with plenty of food and drink and fabulous women. 90 percent of them would fit right in at a party at the Playboy manion and 10 percent are certifiable centefold material. Sure some are cheery and others cold, and a few try to upsell. But what ever happened, as Reagan said, to just saying no?
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Showers. Still the biggest problem. Need to run longer and need HOT WATER.
<cut>Kahului[/QUOTE]
Great attitude you have to find your enjoyment and ignore all the non-enjoyable things.
I believe the showers on the right side work most of the time fine after just a few seconds (unless you are first for the day). Rarely any problem. O.K. the left side is no good.
[QUOTE=Plover 23]To be honest Nick, no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK. I guess you've done neither,, or you wouldn't be asking the question. So, my advice to you is to go and have a look round the RLD. And then set aside a day to relax in a decent FKK. There is really no comparison.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more. Try FKK first. Then when you go the the RLD, you will realise what shit it is for the most part, apart from a few diamonds in the rough. Riddled with ladyboys too!
RLD is probably for those looking for a 10 minute quickie!
[QUOTE=SexyTiger]Hy, my friends,
during IAA I was in Palace and had a great secian with a romanian girl ( Saskia ? )which gave a superblowjob in the cinema. Later strolling around I met a known chick for me from Brasil. I do not remember her name, ( I had a 1 hour party in the room with all I dream about, GFS;kissing, 69,anal) and she is really hot, even from the looking. ( 1,70cm,half long brown hair,not tatoo,ab. c breasts , half ok german). I like somehow the latinas for their female power,the eastern ( Tschech,Croat,Romanian ) are somehow ,how shall I call it, more devote ? Or is this only my personal feeling ? What do you guys think about brasilians and does one of you had experiance with any of those sambaqueens ? Some guys told me there, brasilians are more agresssive in money than eastern, I do not think so about, but I m not so expert.[/QUOTE]
I find that have a greater probability of a really fun time with Latin girls, Asian Girls, and even black girls, than with European girls. There are still plenty of great European girls though. My least preferred choice for a girl would be from my home country, followed by UK and the USA (but latin/asian/blacks excepted).
[QUOTE=Nickc]Cheers Chaps.
I'm coming in February on the way to Moscow.
Are numbers of girls and quality down in winter, February?
Would that be a fair assesment, as they may move to warmer climates.
Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]
In a word, no! Feb was fine.
Can always find girls wearing underwear. Most guys prefer the lack of it though.
[QUOTE=Asia Tourist]Another successful trip. I really like Palace. To each his own, but (a) it's close and easy to get to, (b) the staff is professional and seem like they give a shit about what's going on. I. E. The desk lady always asks if things were good, the cleaning staff is on top of things (very clean throughout the club), and the bartenders are great, (c) lineups are reasonably good. I'm lazy so I went to Palace two nights in a row:
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Overall, really enjoyed the Palace. Best session: Vanessa. Worst session: damn, they were all good but probably Angelina second time around but she seemed genuinely tired. My new lessons: (a) I'm really diggin' the BBBJCIM on the first session, (b) avoid the take-us-both routine, slash through all that bs, (c) starting to become a fan of the repeat sessions.
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Great report. Superb summary and indicates that can have a good time even with girls that seem like processors.
Did you go full 30 mins with many of these girls or were they just to skilled/hot for you last that long? I ask this because I'm rather slow to make it.
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In REPLY to PLOVER23 and MP LURKER
Cheers for your point of view.
I’m not so sure about your comment that
“no-one in their right mind would go to the Frankfurt RLD rather than an FKK”.
Read an interesting report by ‘Thebigman’ and you may see a little differently.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=462358&postcount=601[/url]
He closes with the interesting remark
“Bored of the FKKs and all the money-grabbing EEs that they contain, I found the RLD to be if I'm honest far more fun and of course a lot better value. i'm into the conversational side of things and have a laugh and joke with all the girls. I'm definately going back - I advise you to do the same!”
And that’s my point, there is another point of view out there.
Cheers for replys
Nickc