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[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601580]Indeed. Trump's deal with Mexico to keep the illegals there was a masterstroke. [/QUOTE]What? Now that's way off. Everyone knows his masterstroke was making Mexico pay for his beautiful, impenetrable wall we're all enjoying so much.
Washington, the. See. —Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has announced Congress will be taking action immediately as the situation in Afghanistan rapidly deteriorates. To hold those responsible for the evacuation debacle, Congress will consider articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.
"Good morning, Thursday morning," Pelosi said during a press conference this morning, which was Thursday morning. "We're facing a dire situation in Afghanistan, and that means we as Congress need to do our duty to hold those responsible accountable for their horrible, horrible actions. That's why, effective immediately, I'm introducing articles of impeachment against the president. President Donald Trump. "
Pelosi says Trump being impeached a third time won't actually accomplish anything. But, she says, it will send a clear message to Trump that she doesn't like him, which is the important thing. "he didn't get the message the first two times," she said. "Now the world will know for sure that the orange man truly is bad. "
"The walls are closing in. We got him this time."
Trump says he welcomes the impeachment as he will be the first president in the history of the world to be acquitted three times. "That's huge!" he said, addressing his supporters on the few social networks that have not yet banned him. "Sleepy Joe hasn't even been acquitted once. Sad and pathetic!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2601649]What? Now that's way off. Everyone knows his masterstroke was making Mexico pay for his beautiful, impenetrable wall we're all enjoying so much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601586]Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?
...[/QUOTE]Glad you asked. For one thing, in early Janurary 2020 the so-called potus, who the world should assume is getting the best and most accurate intel on this as well as other matters of serious importance (which he did), was just beginning to lie to you, me, Pelosi, Biden, Fauci, well, the entire world except those also in the know in China (that would be NO CDC monitors, who Trump defunded and removed from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so foolhardy and stupid) that, "It's a Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control! There is only one case out of China, 15 here and soon that will be close to zero! This will disappear like in a dream!", etc, etc, etc.
Weren't you paying attention to your guy back then?
Hardly a reason to start demanding worldwide travel restrictions, refusing to hug anyone, requiring everyone to wear a mask and so on, wouldn't you say?
Unfortunately, what the world has since learned is that was a fine and dandy way for a so-called potus to convert a likely manageable endemic in Wuhan into the deadly, worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic it became.
Trump's Pandemic, to be be exact and give credit where credit is well earned and due.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601501][URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-respond-disappointing-jobs-report/story?id=77554168[/URL] - "Biden responds to disappointing jobs report".
Disappointing everywhere but in EihTooms head I guess. And who knows what's going on in there?[/QUOTE]I submit that any month that does not add the 5-6 MILLION USA Jobs that have still not been recovered from Trump's Great Repub Crash, Recession and Massive USA Jobs Destruction is "disappointing." I mean, as long as we're wishing and pulling prediction estimates out of our ass.
But the 235,000+ number is only "disappointing" compared to some economists' prediction estimates that Mainstream Media published.
Biden didn't say, "We're going to add 750,000 jobs in August!"Just some economists that have been way off, up and down, for every month of Biden's historic jobs creation economic recovery made that prediction. So what?
And how they pulled that kind of high number out of their ass for August at a time when the DeSantis Variant of Trump's Pandemic Virus Among Anti-Science, Anti-Vax Trumpsters was driving job applicants away from the hospitality and leisure industry in droves is a mystery.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601586]Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?
You seem to be saying that if the US had permitted flights to continue coming in from the source of the pandemic in its early stages, it wouldn't have led to greater covid numbers in America. That is simply too idiotic for words, and a good indicator of the insane level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
What actually happened was Trump's swift travel ban (in the face of the usual dem / fake news screeching about "racism" or some other nonsense) bought the country some time. In that time, Trump pushed hard for Operation Warpspeed, which developed vaccines in record time, and saved the lives of many vulnerable people.
For an indication of the planning and organizational capabilities of Biden's handlers, we can look at Afghanistan. Had Sleepy Joe or Glassface Nancy been in charge, their covid response would have been equally catastrophic and humiliating.[/QUOTE]I provided you a link. You obviously didn't read it, so here it is again. [URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/[/URL].
The former guy restricted non-US citizens. He didn't restrict Americans coming from China. Here's a quote from the article above: "We don't have a travel ban," Klain said. "We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn."
"There's no restriction on Americans going back and forth," Klain said. "There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction."
The last sentence is why Democrats were against the former guy's restrictions. That's what fascists don't understand, that the color of someone's passport isn't an indication of harboring COVID. "Let's let Americans travel back-and-forth from China, let's let in multi-stop flights that may have originated in China and let's not stop any ships carrying Chinese goods, but by all means let's stop Chinese from coming." Yep, that sounds like orange policy.
And thanks for bringing up the former guy's vaccines again. Are unvaccinated Republicans smart for not taking the bad vaccines trump developed? Or stupid for not taking a good vaccine? Which is it?
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601506]I sure do, because I find them exciting and exotic, not to mention unspoiled by feminism and entitlement like a lot of American women. But I wouldn't want to live permanently in one of these third world societies.
Anyway, as I (and Muhammad Ali) observed, the reality is that the vast majority of people naturally group together with their own race. This is not because of some outside pressure.
In fact the outside pressure is toward racial integration and racemixing, via Hollywood and media propaganda, Section 8 housing and other govt mandates. But people just don't want to do it. They want to live among their own.[/QUOTE]People wanting to live with others that look, speak and act like them [B]is not racism[/B]. Maybe one day you'll understand that.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2601733]Glad you asked. For one thing, in early Janurary 2020 the so-called potus, who the world should assume is getting the best and most accurate intel on this as well as other matters of serious importance (which he did), was just beginning to lie to you, me, Pelosi[/QUOTE]The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?
To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.
A. more.
Or be. Less.
Covid in the United States?
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2601574]Seems like the movie groundhog day on a loop.
[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/01/importing-enemies/[/URL]
Importing enemies? The DNC loves importing enemies of this country, they know who they will vote for on election day.[/QUOTE]Yup. In fact they don't need to vote at all; democrat operatives will fill in the ballot for them. And a few hundred thousand others.
Washington, DC—A sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.
"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?
In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.
"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601768]The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?
To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.
A. more.
Or be. Less.
Covid in the United States?[/QUOTE]There might have been no Covid-19 ever in the United States if TrumpShit had not removed the medical observers Obama had already smartly put in place.
Instead China suckered TrumpShit initially.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601768]The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?
To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.
A. more.
Or be. Less.
Covid in the United States?[/QUOTE]First of all, virtually everything you have asserted about Pelosi re China and Chinatown is false, simply parroting the lies Trump told about it originally:
[b]Trumps False Claims about Pelosi and Chinatown[/b]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/[/URL]
Second, please post a link supporting your suggestion that Nancy Pelosi received the same intel about the reality of the virus in China the same time Trump did.
The Speaker would get it officially, but not necessarily at the same time and not if a so-called potus is informed about it by another head of state "off the record" with no notes taken or kept.
[b]United States Intelligence Community Oversight[/b]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community_Oversight
[quote]Access to information
The White House has the power to control information classification, and even withhold access to information and operational details from certain members of Congress. In this way, the executive branch can directly control what Congress can or cannot see, indirectly influencing the legislative branch's overall ability to make decisions. Thus, despite members of the Intelligence Committees and their staffs holding appropriate security clearances, they may sometimes only have a limited view into specific intelligence activities. Though the National Security Act of 1947 states that Congress must be kept "fully informed" of significant intelligence activities, many Presidents have interpreted this clause to mean they only need to notify the "Gang of Eight" rather than the full membership of the congressional intelligence committees. The Gang of Eight consists of the Senate Majority and Minority Leaders, the Speaker and Majority Leader of the House, and the Chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. Veto Power:
...[/quote]
Trump got intel on it in a PDB as early as January 3, 2020 and tried to float the lie that he was not told about it until late January. And he was in communication with Xi in January. Was Pelosi privy to everything he was told then?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/trump-coronavirus-us-intelligence/index.html
Recorded on audio, Trump admitted to Woodward that he lied about the seriousness of the virus from the beginning. It would be TOTALLY unlike him not to have said to Woodward and everyone else that, "Hey, Nancy Pelosi knew all about it too, everything I knew and at the same time! She misled America, NOT ME!?", if that were even remotely true.
But he didn't.
[b]Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was deadly and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans[/b]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump/2020/09/09/0368fe3c-efd2-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html
My god. There is zero evidence that the Speaker of the House was in on the same shit-slinging page Trump was on regarding the known seriousness of the virus. Not even the Repub members of the Gang of Eight have made that claim. Hell, Trump was out there thanking Xi for his help and "transparancy."
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/12/21218305/trump-ignored-coronavirus-warnings
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2601768]The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?
To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.
A. more.
Or be. Less.
Covid in the United States?[/QUOTE]Here is the link once more: [URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/[/URL] Read it this time and try to keep up.
What the former guy did was xenophobic and nothing more. Did he restrict Americans from traveling to / from China? Nope. Did he restrict any flights that might have contained travelers who were in China in the prior 2 weeks? Nope. Did he restrict any cargo ships that might have stopped in China? Nope. Did he do anything but ban people with Chinese passports? Nope. That's why it was xenophobic.
If you take all of the above together, the former guy's restrictions did nothing in the long run. He banned people carrying Chinese passports and welcomed every Tom, Dick and Harry who might be infected into the country.
But since that's all the cult has, I can see why they beat that dead horse.
[QUOTE=Travv;2601805]Washington, DCA sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.
"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?
In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.
"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?[/QUOTE]At least Chamberlain secured a deal with Der Fuhrer to not take any more territory. The former guy's surrender agreement to the Taliban didn't even do that.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2601759]The former guy restricted non-US citizens. He didn't restrict Americans coming from China.[/QUOTE]Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country, you fruitloop. The majority of people who fly from China to US are not US citizens; Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. Glassface Nancy and Sleepy Joe criticized his action, telling Americans to hug a Chinaman and calling him "xenophobic".
If the Democrats' demands to continue permitting entry to non-citizens from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been:
A. more.
Or b. Less.
Covid in the United States?
[QUOTE=Travv;2601805]Washington, DCA sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.
"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?
In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.
"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?[/QUOTE]Well, gee, I guess Biden could have sent a "surge" of USA Troops back into Afghanistan with the provision that we stay there another 20 years, while terrorist acts were committed in that country as they have all along anyway. I'm pretty sure they would have seen that as a fresh new invasion and occupation of their country considering the provision THEY agreed to with Trump was for us to get the fuck out lock stock and barrel by whatever date suited them.
Um...the only carnage, including American deaths and other casualties that occurred during Biden's exceedingly well managed withdrawal by the Losing Side of a war by any and every historical standard, was from the suicide bomber who in all likelihood came from among the 5,000 dangerous terrorist prisoners that Trump agreed to release last year. A decision that even the Taliban now admits was a mistake.
I'm guessing Biden would have warned them what a mistake that would be and done everything possible to talk them out of it. There is no evidence that any such thing occurred to Trump at the time while he was buckling at the feet of his victors.
You know, after 3 attempts by the British, one attempt by Russia and one attempt by the USA over the past 150 years or so to save the innocent people of Afghanistan from their own culture and society, I'm kind of past this being some humiliating defeat for the rest of us. I am fine with seeing it as a humiliating defeat, lack of will and interest in being saved from anything on the part of the Afghans who live there.
Yep, even the women. Surely at some point after those male babies pop out of their womb there must be more than a few opportunities for the mothers to admonish and instruct their baby boys not to treat women like shit. That is, if that is really the way the majority of Afghan women see it.