Siiii, grapevines, oranges, and apples
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2563293]The pregnant girl had a bag of candy in her hand and motioned me over. When I approached I handed her a 500 Peso coin. I never had any interest in her, but was curious if someone so pregnant and so big was actually working, hence I asked the questions in terms of what kind of restrictions she had if she was working and then asked how much out of curiosity. I wasn't there to tease her, and was very polite to her. And what she did ask for, at 40 K, was out of line, and although I'm not a local, she would of never quoted 40 K to a local, hence I laughed, and she wasn't offended. And in fact, afterwards I gave her another 1,000 pesos in coins when I departed which she thanked me for.
I tread on water when in El Centro, and if anything try to befriend people versus piss them off, there is a major "grapevine" with the girls in El Centro so pissing them off, and being rude or disrespectful is not how I roll.
Now as far the bath thing, well you must be down there a lot to have witness this three times and it's a pretty sad sight. Once was enough for me.[/QUOTE]Always a good idea to be culturally sensitive, and even good intentions can have unintended opposite meanings. We would use the phrase in the USA "like apples and oranges" to emphasize differences. When I said that to my novia, "como manzanas why naranjas" my Spanish was fine, but she replied in earnest (translated), "Yes, they are the same, like two round fruits. " Jajajajajaaa, so true. Knowing the culture is as important as knowing the language.
The potential is there to get trapped
[QUOTE=Kavin76;2563360]This is an interesting topic that I brought up awhile back. I think and hope we are all trying to avoid getting into legal situations at all costs; but there are undoubtedly times that people have gotten caught in a situation that they have to back pedal out of rapidly. I am sure it has happened thousands, if not tens of thousands of times or more all around the world. I have had at least 3-4 situations over messenger on Facebook where I have spoken to someone, talked about what I am looking for, gave them a proposal and then asked if they had cedulla, and then discovered that this person is not someone I should be talking to. Although my intent is never to engage in a meeting, the statement you made is what I want to know about. Where is the line drawn in the concrete legally as far as US gov is concerned? If you so much as bring the subject up and try to negotiate an arrangement, have you gone too far? What is the legal boundary? Even if you back pedal rapidly when you discover the bad news, is there reason for major concern? I can think of a handful of circumstances where this has happened and it makes a guys stomach drop and blood pressure go through the roof. And since we live in a digital world now, you have to assume that someone is always watching. Especially on FB. Although I do not understand what this guys intent was or if he had knowledge of what he was doing, this guy you are talking about appears to have fully engaged all the way to the bedroom and went full dive into the swimming pool regardless if he knew it or not. Possibly multiple times. But my summary question is; if you stick your foot in the water, can you get it bit off? The law is the law. I would argue that no one is innocent in this world by accident or on purpose in every aspect of their life. We all do our best, and like you said; stay on the legal side, but I would say a lot of people here have slipped and had to back pedal before. I would find it hard to believe that no one has had this happen.[/QUOTE]There is a different kind of electronic or "paper" trail left beind from a Gringo who is being conned by a too young chica with fake ID and a Gringo who is seeking. The key is from the moment you become aware that the person with whom you are communicating might be misrepresenting themselves, that you cut off all contact, and you send a copy of the message to your lawyer explaining why, and you will 99.99999% of the time never hear another word about it. I agree with zero tolerance, but most of Gringos who get busted for this are repeat, obvious, flagrant offenders and not one-off guys. I would also be concerned about the potential for blackmail from a chica, family, and gang from trapping a guy into receiving nude fotos across international lines, but again, what you do AFTER you find out the truth, is the key. Guys with "short eyes" really do have a psychiatric problem, considering the virtually unlimited supply of hot young legal chicas 18 and over in Medellin. There is no reason to swim in such dangerous waters.
