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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1131269]...So, basically you get girls with pre-existing issues and then you run the train on them with bunch of even more fucked up sex tourists and at the other end pops out your well seasoned bargirl.[/QUOTE]I think that Stephen Leather in Private Dancer gives the most authentic and vivid description of the pondlife that work in the bars and the cockroaches that prey on them. In one descriptive passage, Joy (the bargirl) thinks she has got one up on one of her more loathsome customers.

'I should have known better than to trust a farang. I'm not the first girl to be conned and I won't be the last, but I learned my lesson, that's for sure. He was from Switzerland, an old guy, big and fat like they all are, and he smelled like he hadn't showered for a week. He had a thick gold chain around his wrist and the big one around his neck, the one that he gave me, so I figured he had money. He bought me five colas and when I put my hand on his crotch I could feel that he was hard already so I knew he'd want to pay bar for me. I figured Pete wouldn't be around until ten and it was only eight so I gave him a couple of rubs and asked if he wanted to go short-time.

We went to Uncle Rey's Guest House, it's only a five-minute walk from Nana Plaza. He wouldn't shower or anything, just stripped off and lay down on his back like a huge beached whale. He was covered with hair, grey and curly, and he lay there playing with himself while I undressed. His prick was huge, and thick, and it seemed to get bigger and bigger as he played with it. I wanted to shower but he said he didn't want me to. He said he wanted me to suck him. I shook my head and said I didn't do that and I tried to get on top of him. He pushed me down and tried to force me, but I kept turning my head away. It stank, like old fish. He kept trying to force me, but I wasn't having any of it. Eventually he sat up and took off the gold chain. He told me that he wanted to sell it, and that if I sold it for him I could keep half. It looked real enough, and it felt real, so I put the chain around my neck. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but I kept my eyes closed and concentrated on not being sick. He started to thrust himself in and out and I almost choked. I could feel him start to come so I tried to pull my head away but he put his hands on the back of my head. I actually didn't resist too hard because I figured I was getting five thousand baht. Anyway, he came in my mouth and then held me there until I swallowed.

I dressed and rushed out of the room while he was still on the bed because I didn't want him to change his mind and ask for his gold back. '

Of course the gold chain is fake and Joy gets shit kicked out of her by herThai 'boyfriend'.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1130899]I've been ROFLFAO at the recent discussion about why so many bar girls are maybe a little bit strange. For nobody mentioned the most obvious cause. Us! Surely being fucked by a succession of strangers, often old enough to be their fathers / grandfathers, is not conducive to good mental health. Added to which, some of these guys are a little odd themselves (hence their need to use providers) and are often fat, physically deformed, unattractive or in other ways marginalized by society, it is surprising that the girls who service them are not more bonkers than they are.

Present company excepted, of course. [/QUOTE]Geez, it's just a job. Of course they only like being bonked by Pinoys. Go look at the romance section of any Filipino bookstore and see if you can see any hero other than a Pinoy. So they are obviously just doing it for the money for those who are not Pinoys. Present company excepted, of course.

However, there are plenty of crap jobs in the world, from gutting chickens to cleaning out sewage sludge, the list of shit jobs is endless. Some of them are paid far less than working in a bar too.

If working in a crap job was the reason for weirdness, then there would be a whole lot more of it out there. Maybe they are not that weird, but just not interested in the sort of stuff that we are. Just as long as we don't get carried away and imagine that they like us because we are hansum men or because we are intelligent or some such crap. LOL! Of course, ours are different, right? Yeah, right.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman;1131309]However, there are plenty of crap jobs in the world, from gutting chickens to cleaning out sewage sludge, the list of shit jobs is endless. Some of them are paid far less than working in a bar too.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but do these jobs involve having your 3 holes, digitally, lingually and genitally penetrated by a stinky breathed stranger?

[quote=cunning stunt;1131314]yeah, but do these jobs involve having your 3 holes, digitally, lingually and genitally penetrated by a stinky breathed stranger?[/quote]and digital, lingual and penile penetrations of the vaginal, anal and oral cavities are only the tip of the iceberg. we have not even considered the mongers who tie them up and fuck them in all holes; [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on them; [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] on them; spank them; gag them; feed them cum on toast; put them on a leash; cheat and deceive them, etc. toss in regular alcohol consumption, beat downs from abusive boyfriends / pimps plus constant monetary demands from the family and it's a recipe for a real monster. i wonder what the suicide rate is for bar girls.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1131425]\Toss in regular alcohol consumption, beat downs from abusive boyfriends / pimps plus constant monetary demands from the family and it's a recipe for a real monster. I wonder what the suicide rate is for bar girls.[/QUOTE]That is the real killer. The bars that force them to earn a ridiculous amount of drinks to get paid. Just imagine how you would be if you have to drink that much for a year or two. Toss in the expectations of the family, as soon as you start contributing one of your bros or old man gives up his job, then the boyfriend that takes his cut. Viscous circus that you just can't get out of. And then there is the greed and the poverty. Anyway fuck them, we do anyway

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1131314]Yeah, but do these jobs involve having your 3 holes, digitally, lingually and genitally penetrated by a stinky breathed stranger?[/QUOTE]Um, well, afaik it is not compulsory for girls to be three holers, and some are not. If they choose to do that and that is their business plan, why not?

You might ask some guys presently working in the sewers in Manila whether or not they would like to dance in their underpants and fuck ugly fat white cows for three times the pay, or stay there sifting through shit and used condoms with a squillion cockroaches for company. (Me, I prefer the cockroaches to the fat white cows, but that's just me). . I would also point out that if you are working waist deep in flowing crap, your orifices are probably being invaded by all sorts of interesting flora and fauna. Also, there are plenty of women who enjoy sex. Sure they would prefer an 18 yo Pinoy, but if their alternative is to stay at home in the probince, act as an unpaid servant with the excitement for the week being the trip to church where they get to accompany their grandmother, maybe some of them do not think it such a bad thing to be getting three times what a shop girl in SM gets (not to mention that you won't have a hope of getting that if you just have graduated high school, let alone if you didn't graduate high school).

So if someone who would struggle to get a six month job at SM Mall (where they fire you after six months so they don't have to pay benefits) , gets paid three or more times that amount (and you don't get fired after six months) , jeez, cry me a river.

You make it sound like they are forced to do all the non-conventional things. That is just crap, have you actually been to AC? Yes, it can happen very occasionally, but saying they are being forced to do it is just bola bola. If someone does try to force the issue, those helpful guys in the PNP station 4 will (for a fee) help the girl extract some punitive damages. In fact they have been known to extract the damages even without that guy having done anything.

If the girl makes a decision as an adult to go three hole, or any of the other stuff, then that is her business decision. I would certainly hope she negotiated a good fee, but that is her business, and nobody else's.

Also, they might prefer an older guy that only gets it up once a night, to some younger guy who is a little harder on the equipment. Most people renting stuff out prefer older clients for that reason. .

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1131433]That is the real killer. The bars that force them to earn a ridiculous amount of drinks to get paid. Just imagine how you would be if you have to drink that much for a year or two.[/QUOTE]A typical barfine is roughly equal to 10 ladydrinks. Thats how much a popular girl is worth to the bar for the night. I can imagine what 10 glasses of liquor a day does to a 40kg girl's liver. When I buy a ladydrink I insist on no alcohol in it, sober women are hornier too (medical fact)

But lets clear something up. Nobody forces the girls to work in the bar, its their choice and thats the lifestyle they picked to live.

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1131602]When I buy a ladydrink I insist on no alcohol in it[/QUOTE]Honestly, I didn't thing they even put alcohol in a ladies drink. Do they?

[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1131207]A question about college tuition. Is there a specific month or due date for these fees? Anyone who's chatted with online Pinay has been given the pitch about schooling costs. It can be annoying but like most negatives, we must turn it into a positive and take advantage when we can. I for one, don't mind pitching in for the girls education. If everything is legit. Just as long as she good to the naughty professor.

CC[/QUOTE]Well, my 2 cents and being late to the party would say. To the girls looking for a fast buck, anytime you have money is the time for college fees to be paid.

[QUOTE=Jambo;1131621]Honestly, I didn't thing they even put alcohol in a ladies drink. Do they?[/QUOTE]It's a tough question. I have had more fun with girls who were a bit tipsy and so did I hate myself when some of the barfine were sloshed.

Well, while working in bars in Singapore, LD = 1/4 measure of normal shot (or for better clarity, we use the bottom of the measure cup. Where the measure cup has a little edge and that equates to a 1/4th of a measure.)

Because we used to have cases of USN guys who get into fight for being cheated when they insist the girl mus have enough liquor. The poor sods forget that the whole idea of the LD is to take money out of the guy, and not to get the girl drunk.

'Nobody forces a girl to work in a bar' is not quite right. When you dig deeper it seems that in some (maybe many) cases the lazy greedy family send the girl out to make money . And they 'sacrifice for the family.

Thats also what a lot of the marriages to foreigners is all about. To by cynical marriage to an old fart is just a variation on the bar girl deal.

I once thought the Pinoy concept of family was admirable. But when you see it in action it is in reality the greedy / lazy older generation controlling the younger generation. I guess that's what happens in a country with no social security.

Sorry for the lecture!

It's a sad fact that Pinays usually assume the responsibility for being the family breadwinners.

Older brothers don't seem to feel any such compunction. If the Pinay either snares a decent.

Job overseas, or much better, a "poreigner", then, too often, the family reacts as if THEY have.

Won the lottery. So many guys much prefer to just hang out, drink Red Horse, shoot pool,

Impregnate gullible girls, and be happy shiftless bastards. (Hmmmn, sounds like most of us.)

Meanwhile the girls bear the burden of being the family providers.

That is until the innocent foreigner gets co-opted!

[quote=questor55;1131657]it's a sad fact that pinays usually assume the responsibility for being the family breadwinners.[/quote]initially, when i used to hear that the girl has taken on the family burden, i used to feel that the girls is strong and needs all the support. only when i hear that she has become the breadwinner, the rest of the family has decided to go on vacation as the girl has started working did my respect for the girl too disapeeared. and i dare not touch such girls even with a ten foot barge pole.

and unfortunately, not only they are proud that the dirty money is making daddy and mommy and brother and sister have a good vacation, they think that is perfectly normal.

i gave up analysing that mindset.[/quote]that is until the innocent foreigner gets co-opted! [/quote]i like that statement and the way you think. . co-opted. haha

[QUOTE=Jambo;1131621]Honestly, I didn't thing they even put alcohol in a ladies drink. Do they?[/QUOTE]In most bars that we frequent theres almost nothing in the drinks. However in the bars that locals go, many girls will have bottle after bottle of beer. This though is nothing compared with Bangkok Look in the bars there and theres a large water container at the side of the bar, that a mix of soft drink and Mekong whisky. Girls will always have a few glasses before starting work. By nights end most Thai girls have had quite a few.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman;1131563]Also, they might prefer an older guy that only gets it up once a night, to some younger guy who is a little harder on the equipment. Most people renting stuff out prefer older clients for that reason. .[/QUOTE]Yeah, but imagine the permanent mental scarring and trauma damage that might be caused by being fucked by John McCririck.