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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2593437]Great to see the delicious Candy is back on the Globe TP.[/QUOTE]There goes my plan to not go to Globe this week. I hope Candy is still here when Axelle comes back, a room with the two of them together is on my to do list.
Went one afternoon last week. Was not as busy compared to my previous visit and more girls available. Had 2 sessions and tried after a first session with a reliable girl a newer girl but this time with more success. Angela not new to the business but didn't see her before at Globe yet. Very pleasant and enjoyed it. Also talked to another girl and she was out with a customer for a long vacation in a sunny locale. So possible some more popular girls are missing during the summer vacation time being taken out for a longer trip.
On a side note they finally put a large TV into the porn movie theater. Wasn't sure first when walking past if my eye sight got better but after looking closer it's a huge flat screen. So maybe there are some investments and with luck we might get new mattresses :-)
[QUOTE=KaveMan;2591989]So is the current consensus that line ups are terrible v.
V. any reasonable standard?
V. Pre-COVID.
V. Globe glory days of '10-'14.
Hard to discern from posts of last two months.[/QUOTE]My personal opinion is that the average level of beauty has not dramatically declined; for sure, the golden age was probably better, but the level is above the reasonable standard and more or less the same as the pre-covid time: in my visit since reopening I had the chance to have a session with better than average good looking girl like Lorette and Nadya.
However, the main issues is the limited number of girls, which makes the overall situation much worse than the pre-covid and dangerously close to a reasonable standard; the best girl are booked all the time and apart the early hours, the number of bears outnumbers the one of the girls.
If I understood the meaning of your questions, I suggest you wait till the end of the summer to take a decision, whether a visit in Europe is worth or not; today the answer is no, the risk to come and have bad days both in Aphro e Globe is very high. For reasons not easy to explain with certainty, all the clubs are suffering from a talent pipeline shortage, despite in Zurich 4 clubs shut down (Diskret, Life, Rouge and La Boum); after the summer holidays, we'll know probably more.
I'll cross my fingers, the situation does not look promising.
[QUOTE=Martin39;2593842]Went one afternoon last week. Was not as busy compared to my previous visit and more girls available. Had 2 sessions and tried after a first session with a reliable girl a newer girl but this time with more success. Angela not new to the business but didn't see her before at Globe yet. Very pleasant and enjoyed it. Also talked to another girl and she was out with a customer for a long vacation in a sunny locale. So possible some more popular girls are missing during the summer vacation time being taken out for a longer trip.
On a side note they finally put a large TV into the porn movie theater. Wasn't sure first when walking past if my eye sight got better but after looking closer it's a huge flat screen. So maybe there are some investments and with luck we might get new mattresses..[/QUOTE]Yes, new culture for porn, when beds are dirty, rooms are low level compare to other clubs. This is Globe new quality. Do they just understand porn is a show, but not sex. I prefer real sex. A bit same than lesbian show, who can be excited by this? When I run for elegance and charm, like panda now at Globe. I find very normal club is not so crowded, like on my 2 last visits on 2 Saturdays afternoon and night, when quality is too low for expensive rate. Yes, some girls don't seem so busy, maybe why they turn aggressive rather than thinking to behave to be attractive.
[QUOTE=Cahdgui;2593637]One girl told me she make 3000 per day now at Globe.
Globe became a jackpot for below average. Class see working girls to make bags of money. Even in Dubai they don't get close to that kind of money.
And in this twisted reality. Instead the club will be packed with super hot girls, it hold the recorded for bade set and smallest line up ever.[/QUOTE]These numbers look very suspicious in my opinion and apply only to a limited number of top girls.
I mean, a girl makes 120 CHF every 30 minutes and works more or less 14 hours a day: which means, she can sell maximum 28 half an hour sessions.
I understand there are also extras, but 3000/120=25.
It would mean that all the girls are either busy almost all the time, have only long sessions and takes them 5 minutes to shower and make up or that any customer pays them an extra; completely unrealistic.
[QUOTE=Belbo;2593856]These numbers look very suspicious in my opinion and apply only to a limited number of top girls.
I mean, a girl makes 120 CHF every 30 minutes and works more or less 14 hours a day: which means, she can sell maximum 28 half an hour sessions.
I understand there are also extras, but 3000/120=25.
It would mean that all the girls are either busy almost all the time, have only long sessions and takes them 5 minutes to shower and make up or that any customer pays them an extra; completely unrealistic.[/QUOTE]140 CHF per 30 minutes, not 120, but this does not significantly change the whole picture. I also think that 3000 CHF are exaggerated, except some rare cases. Some time ago, I saw a girl (an Italian) doing anal + CIM 4 times in about 3 hours. I do not know if she could afford furthest sessions afterwards.
[QUOTE=Freddy65;2593889]140 CHF per 30 minutes, not 120, ...[/QUOTE]We pay 140, but girls keep 120 and the club gets 20 "room fee" (even if you fuck on the sofa).
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2593988]We pay 140, but girls keep 120 and the club gets 20 "room fee" (even if you fuck on the sofa).[/QUOTE]Part of the 20 is VAT and paid to the government. Swiss VAT rate is 7. 7 percent and you can see on their web site a statement that all prices include VAT. This was implemented many years ago to make sure it is actually paid.
[QUOTE=Martin39;2593990]Part of the 20 is VAT and paid to the government.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's good to know.
[QUOTE=Belbo;2593850]However, the main issues is the limited number of girls, which makes the overall situation much worse than the pre-covid and dangerously close to a reasonable standard; the best girl are booked all the time and apart the early hours, the number of bears outnumbers the one of the girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, sounds very different to the Globe I knew in 2016-2019. Girls constantly griping "it's not like it used to be" (especially this time of year), and often the club was very dead during the day. I know they have high expectations - Selina used to consider a 2K day was "OK".
Yet Wellcum in Austria has had the same pre-Covid line-up levels since reopening, 80+ weekdays and 100+ weekends.
Still some very tempting girls. Hopefully the brisk business will keep them around.
[QUOTE=Belbo;2593850]My personal opinion is that the average level of beauty has not dramatically declined; for sure, the golden age was probably better, but the level is above the reasonable standard and more or less the same as the pre-covid time: in my visit since reopening I had the chance to have a session with better than average good looking girl like Lorette and Nadya.
However, the main issues is the limited number of girls, which makes the overall situation much worse than the pre-covid and dangerously close to a reasonable standard; the best girl are booked all the time and apart the early hours, the number of bears outnumbers the one of the girls.
If I understood the meaning of your questions, I suggest you wait till the end of the summer to take a decision, whether a visit in Europe is worth or not; today the answer is no, the risk to come and have bad days both in Aphro e Globe is very high. For reasons not easy to explain with certainty, all the clubs are suffering from a talent pipeline shortage, despite in Zurich 4 clubs shut down (Diskret, Life, Rouge and La Boum); after the summer holidays, we'll know probably more.
I'll cross my fingers, the situation does not look promising.[/QUOTE]For me, most of new girls, Lorette is not new, are not pretty. I saw prettier more natural girls at Wellcum, unfortunately they are low level in bed used to Italians. Also few prettier at Sharks. Real lack of elegance and charm now at Globe. When I succeed to find one attractive for look and behavior, this is my Christmas day, when Kate was my standard for Globe rate, not a GND face with silicon, tattoos, no charm nor elegance, but just piece of meat to fuck in couch, or to make fucked by other guys when not able to perform.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2594009]Yes, sounds very different to the Globe I knew in 2016-2019. Girls constantly griping "it's not like it used to be" (especially this time of year), and often the club was very dead during the day. I know they have high expectations - Selina used to consider a 2K day was "OK".
Yet Wellcum in Austria has had the same pre-Covid line-up levels since reopening, 80+ weekdays and 100+ weekends.
Still some very tempting girls. Hopefully the brisk business will keep them around.[/QUOTE]I was told they make 2000 without trying. Hopefully rumors that there is gold in them that Zurich hills will attract some stunners.
However, the club is much less busy than until 2 weeks ago.
[QUOTE=Belbo;2593850]However, the main issues is the limited number of girls, which makes the overall situation much worse than the pre-covid and dangerously close to a reasonable standard; the best girl are booked all the time and apart the early hours, the number of bears outnumbers the one of the girls..[/QUOTE]* in the swiss forum when people complained about it. Ingo sadi loud and clear that the days of many working girls are over and he is a "fan" of girls making large amounts of money.
He even told people that criticize the low number of girls. Not to visit the club.
He don't give a Sh*t about what the customers think. There is no competition for globe in Zurich as other FKK clubs closed.
If there is a smart business man there. It is the Perfect time to open a club that will compete head to head with globe, the demand is there.
[QUOTE=Cahdgui;2594087]* in the swiss forum when people complained about it. Ingo sadi loud and clear that the days of many working girls are over and he is a "fan" of girls making large amounts of money.[/QUOTE]We should all be fans of girls making large amounts of money, as it makes the job appealing to glamour girls who want to live the luxury lifestyle they constantly see on Instagram, and hence we get to fuck them.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2594021]For me, most of new girls, Lorette is not new, are not pretty. I saw prettier more natural girls at Wellcum, unfortunately they are low level in bed used to Italians. Also few prettier at Sharks. Real lack of elegance and charm now at Globe. When I succeed to find one attractive for look and behavior, this is my Christmas day, when Kate was my standard for Globe rate, not a GND face with silicon, tattoos, no charm nor elegance, but just piece of meat to fuck in couch, or to make fucked by other guys when not able to perform.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the average level, not mentioning the new girls; any time I have been this year, I went in the very early afternoon and the club was not crowded, with a good selection in my personal opinion. Only once I had to settle for a girl, the other times I picked up a girl whom I found very attractive (and yes, I like elegant girls as well).
I agree on the rest; but this is no news, as Globe has always been more or less like a sex assembly line. This is the reason why I consider it a good club, but it has never conquered my heart.