Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2563606]No one mongerer or group of mongerers can destroy or even significantly effect what others pay for for play, in the Colombian market.[/QUOTE]Maybe what you are not realizing is that there is a Colombian Market and there is a Gringo Market in Colombia. Whether you want to believe it or not, we have seen what he is saying play out in the gringo markets of Costa Rica, Panama, Rio, and Sosua at least. Anyone that has frequented these places and has seen what has happened over time can attest to this.

It won't affect Surfer, Rice Rocket, TM; you know, the guys that play in the Colombian Market. But it will certainly affect guys that go stay in Poblado and get chicks from Gustos, Tinder, and Facebook; the Gringo Market in Colombia (as it has historically done in other monger locations).

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2563654]This is from a Facebook post in Medellin FB group:

"Guys, avoid the area of La 70/ area of Estadio / Laureles. Total chaos. People are ripping things out in the street, and using them as barricades. Police continue to sweep the area with tear gas. Steer clear, and stay in your house or shelter if you're in the area. ".[/QUOTE]Not surprised. That's where the students live. In centro, no pedo.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2563401]At least you have a good attitude about it, "(overpaid, but whatever)".

Nothing wrong with destroying the market for everyone else, and yes that includes you too next time.

Hey there's a place called Cocal look it up I'm sure you'll love it, oh wait I'm guessing you're one of those "mongers" that destroyed it and now.

You want to find a new place to shit all over, so you can then come on ISG and add injury to injury and write about it here.

Muchas gracias from us all.[/QUOTE]Really? You think 1 guy overpays and it completely destroys the market for everyone? Do you really believe that? I have seen similar things said before and it always astounds me.

First of all there are sub-markets.

There are instagram models or other high end actresses etc that have a very high ask.

There are FaceBook girls that have a range. Ususally 150-250 + taxi or taxis.

There are other sources like PhotoPrepagos or Mileroticos and most of those rates are about 1/2 the FB girl rate.

There are high end strip clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or Luna Lunera.

There are high end casas like Tantra or Energy.

There are medium end casas like New Life.

There are low end casas and thousands of them.

Then there are streetwalkers.

I didn't even assign a category to Gustos because it is kind of a one off.

Then there are regular girls who aren't prepagos but if they meet you and there's some money there. Well it negotiable.

So you think some guy pays too much for a girl from one of those categories and it ripples all across Medellin and when you go tomorrow to see your girl.

The word is out. One gringo paid too much so we all should get that amount.

Medellin is a city of 4 million (metropolitan area). What one gringo pays or 100 gringos pay or 1000 gringos pay has no effect on the market place.

Your girl hears her friend got 300 mil for an hour. She tells you she is worth that too. You tell her, sorry, I've got my number 2 girl for 200. Your number.

1 girl isn't going to go starving to get that elusive 300 mil pay day for long. She'll realize one guy paid too much, her clients aren't paying that much and.

Back she is at 200.

I don't think you should focus on what other guys are paying. People here talk enough about it. You know what the market prices should be. Stick with that.

If a girl wants more than you want to pay, "next".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2563674]Maybe what you are not realizing is that there is a Colombian Market and there is a Gringo Market in Colombia. Whether you want to believe it or not, we have seen what he is saying play out in the gringo markets of Costa Rica, Panama, Rio, and Sosua at least. It won't affect Surfer, Rice Rocket, TM; you know, the guys that play in the Colombian Market. But it will affect guys that go stay in Poblado and get chicks from Gustos, Tinder, and Facebook; the Gringo Market in Colombia.[/QUOTE]You may have a point with those micro market examples and places I don't frequent and did not consider. But comparing Colombia to Panama or Costa Rica, is like apples and oranges, they are both small round fruits, jajaja. In fact, Colombia has ten times the population of those two examples which makes all the difference. In Colombia, if you have unlimited supply of putas, as I would argue, and no barriers to entry by either the suppliers or the buyers, then the only thing that sets price is the equilibrium point between supply and demand. Forget about the politics or the economics of the Colombian government, the puta market in Colombia is free enterprise and capitalistic.

I have been on small South Pacific Islands where the arrival of a cruise ship has an immediate and upward effect on prices. So I am not saying it doesn't happen, but Colombia is too big for that effect to occur on a macro scale. In Colombia at this moment, there are barriers to entry of buyers now because of Covid and political unrest, and the expected result from decreased demand would be downward pressure on prices, which I think I have seen in recent posts. Worrying about what one guy pays, and especially calling him out for it, is misguided at best. I care more about what the guy who pays what he wants has to say, than a guy who acts clearly in desperate self-interest. Who is bringing a history of success versus failure to the table? You can have the last word if you wish, I am done with this topic, for now.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2563606]No one mongerer or group of mongerers can destroy or even significantly effect what others pay for for play, in the Colombian market.[/QUOTE]This is an old debate going back at least the 18 years I've been around forums such as this. Other mongers can affect particular markets. For example if there are a lot guys in town at a particular time overpaying the hotter Facebook girls, then this can make it hard to get appointments with the same girls unless one is willing to overpay as well. Consumer behavior does effect pricing. That said, such over paying with FB isn't going to have any effect on the Centro scene. The pricing in the strip clubs there will remain the same. Though there has been a growing tendency to try foreigners, like to hit them with a 50% price increase to see if they bite. Obviously that has worked before and word got around.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2563635]Right now on a walk through Sur Americana Laureles I stumbled into a full scale riot. Lots of roads blocked, Estadio closed, fires everywhere and police are firing back with tear gas, other weapons and possibly stun grenades, its really kicking off right now as well as a shooting incident outside my apartment this morning. More details to follow.[/QUOTE]Friday at 12;30 PM I climbed in a taxi at the Exito in Poblado and told the driver I was going to the North Bus Station and he said it would take hours to get there because of the marches / protests and told me to take the Metro. And I did, and there were protestors walking down Avendia Las Vegas in Poblado, but it was odd in that the police were marching with them, and noting violent like you desribed. And the Autopista was a mess with bumper to bumper traffic in the northbound direction not moving, in essence a parking lot, and at the Caribe Metro station on the North side of town, the Autopista was a parking lot going south with the northbound lanes wide open. These ongoing protests have been compounding the Covid contagion count which is more than ever and a fourth surge is predicted and appears to already be happening. Next weekend is what's called a puente, meaning a long weekend, not a bridge due the National Holiday on the 7th. I hope they are not contemplating more weekend lockdowns as all the numbers and percentages of the ICU's aren't doing well.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2563678]Really? You think 1 guy overpays and it completely destroys the market for everyone? Do you really believe that? I have seen similar things said before and it always astounds me.

First of all there are sub-markets.[/QUOTE]Agree with what you posted. See my previous post.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2563672]Anyone that agrees with 1 word that fool types is an even bigger fool.

I really need to stop being so charitable, when I say chumps like you "overpay" you know, I know as does everyone else.

You don't overpay, you get overcharged, you are so reprehensible to (even 3rd world putas) they really don't even want to touch you.

So you agree to a kings ransom, and Voila, you get some lame fully covered bullshit service.

I'm also guessing you have some cognitive issues, did you know the Philippines is a 3rd world country? Guess what so is Colombia, you bottom feeder LOL.[/QUOTE]Yup, I overpaid and I'll price you out of the market LOL. You mad? Keep your insecurities in check

U act like I stole your lunch money, getting flashbacks of grade school? Can’t get laid thru other means?

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2563721]Yup, I overpaid and I'll price you out of the market LOL. You mad? Keep your insecurities in check[/QUOTE]Not a chance honey, I do very well with putas jajajajaaaaaaa.

Where ever I go if I hear how mongers like you are being sodomized.

Do you think I want some of that overcharging, hell no.

I double down and offer way way less than everyone else, and demand even more (Thailand Mexico Philippines Colombia USA strip clubs et al).

Guess what I'll be fucking the puta in the ass bb (literally), I won't be taking it.

The more a puta likes you the less she will charge you.

The closer to free, the better.

There isn't any glam in being overcharged by 3rd world putas (or any puta).

When I was in Asia, just walking down the street very hot 18 yo putas (BTW I'm in my 50's).

Would fuck me for free, without me asking for it for free, I never even bought them a drink.

Why? "because I ain't no chump".

[QUOTE=Villainy;2563678]Really? You think 1 guy overpays and it completely destroys the market for everyone? Do you really believe that? I have seen similar things said before and it always astounds me.

First of all there are sub-markets.

There are instagram models or other high end actresses etc that have a very high ask.

There are FaceBook girls that have a range. Ususally 150-250 + taxi or taxis.

There are other sources like PhotoPrepagos or Mileroticos and most of those rates are about 1/2 the FB girl rate.

There are high end strip clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or Luna Lunera.

There are high end casas like Tantra or Energy.

There are medium end casas like New Life..[/QUOTE]And here's my example from 2 years ago:

A guy I know saw I was in Medellin and sent me a contact. He told me I must try her. I sent her a message and after some brief introductions asked her price. Her response was 300 k. I replied with "siempre pago 200 mil" and got an immediate okay from her.

If you're working in a small, closed system, prices will be driven up with demand. Sosúa is a good example. Without the gringos it's a sleepy little beach town. With a population of 50,000 it doesn't take too many tourists to cause a spike in the economy.

But prostitution is only a tiny part of the Medellin economy, and gringos are only a tiny part of the customer base.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2563681]You may have a point with those micro market examples and places I don't frequent and did not consider. But comparing Colombia to Panama or Costa Rica, is like apples and oranges, they are both small round fruits, jajaja. In fact, Colombia has ten times the population of those two examples which makes all the difference.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately what we are talking about pertains to only hookers and foreign mongers, not the population at large. So it is in fact a micro market. Rio has 12 million people, but check the prices on the gringo market right before Help closed and right now at Mabs and Doce Vida. Chicks are asking up to 10 times what they were just over 10 years ago.

It will not affect me because I am in the trenches, speak the language, and am a hard bargainer. (Just today my nephew was buying a motorcycle and the guy wanted $2500. I told him to offer him $2000 and the guy accepted. That is the same way I do those chicks.) But the new guy that comes along is the one that is going to be in for it. But if you say fuck him, then fuck him I guess it will be.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2563533]Looks like some nice streetwalkers in El Raudal.

[URL]https://youtu.be/3-ceEPyaLbA[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting this. What do people think of the person at 4:00 - old enough? Definitely female?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2563636]Rich people are smart with money they don't flush it down the toilet on 3rd world putas, if they were that dumb they wouldn't be rich.

Most "mongers" that overpay, do so out of pathetic desperation.

Show me someone that overpays 3rd world putas and I will show you someone with very low self-worth / self-esteem.

A fool and his loot soon part.

Most "rich" people are very frugal, that's how they got rich and that's how they stay that way.[/QUOTE]The good folks at Lamborghini, Bugatti, McLaren, etc disagree. In just about every area I can think of, including hookers there are rich people spending extravagant sums. In some instances it might be considered an investment, but usually it's simple vanity. For example, there is a market for gold plated toilets. Pretty sure your local burger flippers aren't buying them.

There are guys spending thousands every month on third world putas. I know of 1 guy who has spent well over $100 k US on a webcam model, who he's never met, over the last 3 years.

I can almost guarantee, the guys renting $1200 per night penthouses in Medellin aren't paying their hookers 30 k.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2563697]Friday at 12;30 PM I climbed in a taxi at the Exito in Poblado and told the driver I was going to the North Bus Station and he said it would take hours to get there because of the marches / protests and told me to take the Metro. And I did, and there were protestors walking down Avendia Las Vegas in Poblado, but it was odd in that the police were marching with them, and noting violent like you desribed. And the Autopista was a mess with bumper to bumper traffic in the northbound direction not moving, in essence a parking lot, and at the Caribe Metro station on the North side of town, the Autopista was a parking lot going south with the northbound lanes wide open. These ongoing protests have been compounding the Covid contagion count which is more than ever and a fourth surge is predicted and appears to already be happening. Next weekend is what's called a puente, meaning a long weekend, not a bridge due the National Holiday on the 7th. I hope they are not contemplating more weekend lockdowns as all the numbers and percentages of the ICU's aren't doing well.[/QUOTE]No mas lockdowns!

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2563760]Unfortunately what we are talking about pertains to only hookers and foreign mongers, not the population at large. So it is in fact a micro market. Rio has 12 million people, but check the prices on the gringo market right before Help closed and right now at Mabs and Doce Vida. Chicks are asking up to 10 times what they were just over 10 years ago.

It will not affect me because I am in the trenches, speak the language, and am a hard bargainer. (Just today my nephew was buying a motorcycle and the guy wanted $2500. I told him to offer him $2000 and the guy accepted. That is the same way I do those chicks.) But the new guy that comes along is the one that is going to be in for it. But if you say fuck him, then fuck him I guess it will be.[/QUOTE]10 yrs is not a long time, can you imagine multiplying all puta prices in Colombia by 10, wowwwwww.

May as well just hit Los Angeles strip clubs.

Puta price inflation is a deadly cancer to this hobby.