Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.
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Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]Exactly! +1 from me.
Off all the other mongers I met, how many were really good looking? In Thailand maybe one or two were well above average, and asshole rating can be inversely proportional, sometimes. Europe has a lot more good looking mongers, yet they still don't get the girl variety they want and especially not several girls in same day. Maybe they are bad at fucking too. Who knows?
I have been offered freebies, even by hookers and by ex-hookers, but not due to good looks, and it is certainly not a regular thing. A percentage of possible freebies, I knocked back. Girl was not exciting enough and I had alternate plans, or questioned her motives. So getting offered lots of free sex by various young stunners, is just a fantasy.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2337490]...
I have seen plenty of pretty girls go for a guy that is fat and ugly, but like his personality. Most hookers will have fucked guys far uglier and possibly assholes as well. Young Thai hookers can still get a cum with an old guy.
...[/QUOTE]I rarely see the best looking P4P girls in a go-go bar or beer bar walking out with good looking men. In fact, I rarely see them approach the better looking men in a bar when they easily could. Maybe they are taking the safest route to guard against public rejection, which none of us relish, on the belief that a good looking man has been with many girls better looking than them and would not be nearly as impressed by them as other men.
This isn't all that different from the way it is in real life outside the P4P scene. It is relatively rare to see a really notable match in higher level attractiveness among couples. Much more often than not, he's a 3 and she's an 8, he's an 8 and she's a 4 or they are both 4's or 3's. LOL. When we see two 8's or 9's together, it is so notable we almost think they just stepped out of a Hollywood casting agency. Could be no more than 3% of the couples in the world are in the "both 8's or better" category.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2337564]I rarely see the best looking P4P girls in a go-go bar or beer bar walking out with good looking men. [/QUOTE]When I see a stunning girl, I tend to notice she is with a Japanese guy or a Farang, or whatever but that is about it. I am really looking at the girl, not so much the customers. I don't care if guys look good or not. Most of the LBs are with Japanese. Most of the Stunning girls (low surgeries) are with Japanese. I probably would not even know which are especially handsome. High surgeries plain girls are with Japanese or Farangs, either. Most of the natural but ugly girls, if I notice, are with non East Asian customers. Many guys on this forum say they don't really care what the girl's face is like for purpose of fucking. A hot body will do, or a flabby body will do too. Some guys got picked by the girl and could not escape. I had a buddy like that 10 years older than me, who just could not refuse determined girls. He could easily take the worst girl in the bar, and he did.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]P4 P takes the drama and repercussions out of the equation.
P4 P is a hobby, being a 'player' is more a lifestyle.
SL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]That's not true, actually.
Even for a decent looking (top 10%) guy with great game skills (top 10% again), getting laid is a fair amount of work. In addition, outside of PFP, you almost never get much actual choice, just need to approach every promising target that presents herself, until one works.
Of course, only about 1-3% of men are in top 10% in terms of both looks and game, but even for them, it's a slog. Now, some might enjoy that work and find it exciting, while others don't, but it sure takes more time and effort than going to a brothel with a few baht in hand.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]That's not true.
There is a ease of paying for sex, which you can't get from a relationship.
I think there is a widespread assumption that men in Thailand paying for sex cannot get sex elsewhere. A long time ago in my late 30's early 40's, I had all the pussy I wanted as a player in my home country. I did not work hard at it, I played. My looks are average. My sense of humor is above average. My motto was "if you can get them to laugh about it you can get them to do it". Then I came to Asia for business and managed 3 days in Bangkok. I was hooked. My preference quickly became the lovely tan ladies of Thailand for not much money. Insert Goatscrote's description of days long gone here. Now I monger because it's been my norm for decades and I am still hooked.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]I am not good looking, but if I were I would still prefer to be a monger and be on this board.
A good looking guy certainly has access to beautiful girls without P4 P, but he would still pay in other ways. And that could be even more expensive. A good looking guy can get stuck with the same girl for ever. Girls have a way to hang on to the same guy without him even realizing it. And, of course when she becomes the girl friend or the wife, the payments start coming.
Luckily, in the P4 P world, we pay the girls to leave, after we are done with them. A hell of lot better proposition than being stuck with a girl friend or a wife.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337532]Truth hurts but if any of us were that good looking we would never be on a board like this.[/QUOTE]Have to agree with most of the comments on your post. I've always been in good shape, a gym rat, and am a decent looking dude, with a vicious sense of humor, who always had very attractive GFs and sex partners. I did not have issues getting laid back home, but it was effort and required quite an investment in money, time, and patiences putting up with a partner. Thailand was great because it required little effort and little money. That was the entire point. Sex, whenever you wanted it, with a wide selection of partners, without the effort, that could be had for the equivalent of 25 USD. Back in the day I knew almost no mongers who needed to have their ego fed. All of the previous is why the discussions of "game" and the rapid rampant price increases over the past couple of years have been so amusing and unsettling at the same time. Why the hell are folks creating the same issues here in LOS that so many of us moved 10 k miles to get away from? Boggles the mind.
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Of course, only about 1-3% of men are in top 10% in terms of both looks and game....[/QUOTE]Exactly 10% are in the top 10%. I guess you meant something else.
Looks like a hell of a lot of posters here think they are in the top 10%. Ha ha. I always got stuck with a girl fast, so never much chance to try to play the field, except by mongering. Obtaining a Thai GF is real easy, even without looking great. So many are available, looking for a western man. Maybe not just looking for sex though. That is the issue.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2337872]Exactly 10% are in the top 10%. I guess you meant something else.[/QUOTE]555+ I almost commented in the same way. Then I realized that he was saying only 1-3% can count them selves in being top 10% in looks who are also top 10% in game.
[QUOTE=Pita123;2337873]555+ I almost commented in the same way. Then I realized that he was saying only 1-3% can count them selves in being top 10% in looks who are also top 10% in game.[/QUOTE]Yeh, good guess.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2337861]Have to agree with most of the comments on your post. I've always been in good shape, a gym rat, and am a decent looking dude, with a vicious sense of humor, who always had very attractive GFs and sex partners.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where the good looking guys like you hobby but it certainly isn't where I hobby. In 3 years likely seen only a handful of good looking guys at hobby spots. By good looking I mean guys who when they walk in to any night club will have girls hit on them. I'm not talking about night clubs with p4 p girls. I'm talking real girls who are smoking hot and in their early 20's. These are the guys who have no need for p4 p.
Hopefully you guys don't let all the compliments of these hookers in Thailand, pi, Jakarta, etc. Get to your heads. If I did I'd believe I looked more like George Clooney than Ed sheeran and I'd be 10x funnier than Jim Carey in his prime.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337890]I'm not sure where the good looking guys like you hobby but it certainly isn't where I hobby. In 3 years likely seen only a handful of good looking guys at hobby spots. By good looking I mean guys who when they walk in to any night club will have girls hit on them. I'm not talking about night clubs with p4 p girls. I'm talking real girls who are smoking hot and in their early 20's. These are the guys who have no need for p4 p.
Hopefully you guys don't let all the compliments of these hookers in Thailand, pi, Jakarta, etc. Get to your heads. If I did I'd believe I looked more like George Clooney than Ed sheeran and I'd be 10x funnier than Jim Carey in his prime.[/QUOTE]I'm not the kind to manipulated with flattering words, but free sessions not sought after, or rock bottom prices with insane PSE sessions.
Now that will boost my confidence every time!