Maybe a hard decision for some and others a no-brainer whether to visit Medellin now
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2564261]Honestly I don't feel that it's my call to make but it's clearly evident that ithere major civil unrest here which has been escalating with the potential for it to escalate even further. Coupled with the fact that most embassies are advising against travelling to Colombia and therefore if things go south you're unlikely to get assistance, is that a situation you want to put yourself in? If it was a friend asking me I would advise against it..[/QUOTE]It's amazing to think that up until just a few months ago, COVID was the big concern with many in deciding whether or not to come to Medellin, and know it's civil unrest, yet COVID is raging thanks in good part to the protests. So for guys trying to decide whether to come down, this is something that should be considered as well. And I am saying this in terms if they start the weekend lockdowns again. I suppose will know what next weekend looks like maybe today or tomorrow. The next two weekends have National holidays associated with them on Monday's, so two three day weekends in a row. For me, getting locked down won't work, so I might fly out somewhere, or leave.
As far as what you have personally witnessed, I would not want to be caught up and saw what you've seen. The only thing I have witnessed personally are peaceful protesters walking down Avenida Las Vegas, and the Autopista either looking like a parking lot or totally deserted with no cars in one direction. I can see people here who do not follow the news, and not being aware of what's going on and being oblivious to it all, or perhaps they just have the attitude of fukitol.
I know this civil unrest issue has been simmering a long long time, but the timing / announcent of a very unfair tax scheme by Duque was like dropping a turd in a punchbowl, and the catalyst of the madness. I can't imagine what you witnessed happening in Laureles, but it did, and that means it could happen in a barrio like Provenza in Poblado. So is it really safe anywhere in town?
Anyways, you personally would advise a friend not to come to Medellin now, and I advised a friend of mine not to come down as well, but more in terms of potential weekend lockdowns versus the civil unrest which I think can be avoided if your very careful, but unfortunately besides that, there's the increased danger factor of being mugged and robbed / stabbed that has been occurring as well. So most definitely for a rookie mongerer, a first timer to Medellin, and / or a non Spanish speaker, stay away for while until things simmer down both in terms of the civil unrest and COVID.
Are we there yet when will the Colombian madness end
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2564302]Thank you very much for this report, this is invaluable information, this is by far more information than I have seen anywhere else, The fact that you say people did not know these riots were going to take place is very important because it means there is no guarantee of avoiding it, I said in my post that Envigado looked like the wisest choice of places to stay right now, but then since there are only essentially two roads to get to the airport, if they shut them off that could be a disaster for anyone looking to get out. I have not heard anything about Cartagena but if I were looking to take a trip I personally would definitely avoid Medellin now and I would be looking hard at Cartagena to see what was happening there.[/QUOTE]It's difficult right now to give advice to others as to what City to visit in Colombia in the weeks to come. For some like myself, and I've been to Cartagena a few times, and it's a beautiful City, but doesn't fit how I roll, yet for others works well.
As far as the roads to and from the Airport being closed, as I recall the tunnel was shutdown earlier for a while at the onset of the protests but was opend a few weeks ago. The thought of access to the airport being blocked and shutting it down is most definitely a scary thought, but I suspect highly unlikely with Medellin being the second largest City in the Country so the Government would never allow this to happen, yet the ouftall of keeping access to the airport open could be very ugly, perhaps like something out of a war zone in the Middle East.
Up until a week ago, it seemed as though the civil unrest was simmering down, at least in Medellin, yet the madness continues.
COVID is one thing, yet the civil unrest adds a whole new dimension to things.
I have been saying "Fuckitall" a lot lately.
Current Covid reated requirements for entry?
I need some help. I was Covid positive a month ago and had mild symptoms. My understanding is that I would continue to show positive for weeks or months so obtaining a negative test prior to my next trip might be difficult or impossible. I have available a letter or recovery from a health administrator/epidemiologist and with that I guess a scientific expectation that I am not contagious nor susceptible. That's sufficient for travel within the US where a Covid diagnosis might be required.
I am able and capable of getting the vaccine as the CDC believes the vaccine is safe 14 after Covid symptoms subside. But having proof of vaccination would not matter per se if a negative test is required with that. I'm not even sure Colombia is requiring a vaccination, just thinking out loud as I type this.
I wish proof of recent recovery would be enough because there are questions emerging about effect amplification from the vaccine in post Covid patients. It's not clear if having a significant amount of antibodies with the vaccine causes the body to overreact or the Covid remnants to embed in tissue, whatever that result might be.
So anyway. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I've called the Consulate many times and cannot get a real person to answer the phone.
A robbery with different outcome
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