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[QUOTE=RobertLong;2339914]Had a run of bad luck lately. It seems every lady I choose and discus my requirements with, and they are ok with all I ask, change when we get to the room. I love to DFK and it is number one on my requirement list. Then comes no condom, and are they clean shaven. They all agree and they are so sexy and romantic in the bar but get to the room and they shower and lay down and become ridged and not romantic. Don't want to kiss just want to BBBJ and get me stiff so that the action will start.
I went shopping on Soi 4 Friday night and sat in the Bar looking at the prospective targets by the wall. 4's and 5's at best. A few ladies in the bar were ready to go but they wanted 2500 and 500 for the bar. I was ready to wall and talk prices. All ladies I talked to wanted 1200, but the farther up Soi 4 the price started to drop to 1000. There was also 2 ladies in the traditional black penguin dress's Muslim ladies I think. They were pulling guys aside and making offers. This is up near 7/11 and The Coffee Company.
I found one lady that was cute and agreed to everything. 1000 thb. She said we need to walk down to Suk to get a taxi. She told me taxi's on Soi 4 are very expensive.
[/QUOTE]Yes especially in Nana I have found con artist girls, sometimes appearing kissy in the bar, but later being fucking hopeless. I think need to get a very good full DGK in bar and make sure she likes it. Another girl got back to my room and refused to fuck (end of her period). Not always easy to assess the true style of a girl in the bar. Last night my girl from cowboy got back and was too much of a monkey, could not do anything soft slow and sexy. Bit of a disaster. I maybe could have enjoyed with no condom, but with a condom was a struggle to stay hard with her non sexy behaviour. BBBJ was very soso due to braces.
Did you agree the penguin fatties were amongst the ugliest faces I seen? Almost like a Punch and Judy mask face. I wonder how much money I would need to make to fuck one.
I always catch a taxi in Suk rather than in Soi 4, because Soi 4 is jammed up and no right turn into Suk allowed. Save time and hassle with a possible long route to your Hotel. Taxi guys standing at entrance to Cowboy are also bad news but can hail a taxi that is passing. My rule is, if the driver has got out of his taxi, you don't want his taxi and don't want to talk to him at all.
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Preaching the truth
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2337890]I'm not sure where the good looking guys like you hobby but it certainly isn't where I hobby. In 3 years likely seen only a handful of good looking guys at hobby spots. By good looking I mean guys who when they walk in to any night club will have girls hit on them. I'm not talking about night clubs with p4 p girls. I'm talking real girls who are smoking hot and in their early 20's. These are the guys who have no need for p4 p.
Hopefully you guys don't let all the compliments of these hookers in Thailand, pi, Jakarta, etc. Get to your heads. If I did I'd believe I looked more like George Clooney than Ed sheeran and I'd be 10x funnier than Jim Carey in his prime.[/QUOTE]To be fair most in SEA is p2 p overall because either it is about where you go or what you do. Money is an element of that but sure there is the odd few pulling guys or girls wherever they go. I am sure there is and have seen people do f2 p with working girls as well. That said in the monger arena I don't see the same frequency of these girls or guys and I used to work the club scene.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2339295]That's still my way of guessing the going rate in a new town. Girls and hotel rooms of the same caliber generally cost about the same.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]That's quite an insight! Tip o' the hat to you.
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After pass the Thermae, the percentage of real girls increases but not much quality. I did not go in the Thermae. In the past have seen doable girls outside the Thermae but not today. Almost all ladyboys outside.[/QUOTE]Never tried to take "girls" standing outside thermae after 11 pm. All looks very tall and with masculine faces, sometime one or two odd one look like a hot girl, but not worth the risk.
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Crazy talk.
[QUOTE=Dena0;2340271]That's quite an insight! Tip o' the hat to you.[/QUOTE]Certifiably crazy that is!
The avg nana plaza gogo girl is probably 3000 plus 1000 BF.
She is not comparable in value to the avg 4000 a night hotel.
Nor is the avg girl in Burgos gogo that is 10000 php.
Comparable to the value to a 10000 php a night hotel.
I can keep going to list every city I've ever mongered.
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[QUOTE=Gargano19;2340303]Never tried to take "girls" standing outside thermae after 11 pm. All looks very tall and with masculine faces, sometime one or two odd one look like a hot girl, but not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]Yes at least 90% will be ladyboys, but I have taken girls from outside Thermae years ago. There are some plain girls sitting on a wall nearby sometimes. Occasionally you can find a pretty girl standing chatting to her LB friends, but you want to be very sure. Could ask to see the ID card, pretending to check her age.
Certainly the whole area from Soi4 to cowboy is getting very overrun with ladyboys. All Asians that go into 5 Star bar get approached by ladyboys, and they don't seem to object to it at all. Some LBs will soon be touching his (Asian guy's) crotch. Yet if a Farang goes in there, the ladyboys will ignore him, and the girls will approach instead. Seems strange to me. A very weird mixed business.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2339295]That's still my way of guessing the going rate in a new town. Girls and hotel rooms of the same caliber generally cost about the same.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]As a rule of thumb this obviously works for you so hats off.
It's pretty straight forward to rate a hotel / hotel room, well accepted international standards to go on with lots of agencies and booking sites providing the rating. Problem how do you find an equivalent rating for girls. Is there a true correlation between price and quality?
So okay Say a 5 star in Bangkok is on average 5000. This covers go go girls 4000 with bar fine, most escorts 4000 on Smooci but not the top tier who don't appear there who can be up to 10000 , night club pickups 5000.
The majority of oilies and soapies are in the 2000 to 3000 range with some of the more specialized Hi end shops charging twice that and more.
Of course for the members acquainted with the scene few of us and yes there are a few ever pay 5000 and being a little presumptuous we all feel we know how to get a 5 star experience for less.
Anyway not a bad rule of thumb.
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Liars LOL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2340354]Yes at least 90% will be ladyboys, but I have taken girls from outside Thermae years ago. There are some plain girls sitting on a wall nearby sometimes. Occasionally you can find a pretty girl standing chatting to her LB friends, but you want to be very sure. Could ask to see the ID card, pretending to check her age.
Certainly the whole area from Soi4 to cowboy is getting very overrun with ladyboys. All Asians that go into 5 Star bar get approached by ladyboys, and they don't seem to object to it at all. Some LBs will soon be touching his (Asian guy's) crotch. Yet if a Farang goes in there, the ladyboys will ignore him, and the girls will approach instead. Seems strange to me. A very weird mixed business.[/QUOTE]I was walking past one night and was debating if I wanted to go in or not and saw a "stunning" girl at the bottom of the stairs right next to the door.
I get her line and say how much etc.
I asked several times you're a real girl.
Then I wonder? Can this be a lb? But she's so perfect?
I ask for ID, I can't remember what I saw.
I think it read MR on there somewhere?
It was a while ago, like in late 2018? But I think I saw MR.
So I ask? You're a boy? Why you lie to me.
He said because I really want to go with you!
Really? That's a good enough reason to them? LOL.
I think 99% on suk are lb?
But I should assume 100% after walking with mr tooms several times over there.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2340367]As a rule of thumb this obviously works for you so hats off.
It's pretty straight forward to rate a hotel / hotel room, well accepted international standards to go on with lots of agencies and booking sites providing the rating. Problem how do you find an equivalent rating for girls. Is there a true correlation between price and quality?
So okay Say a 5 star in Bangkok is on average 5000. This covers go go girls 4000 with bar fine, most escorts 4000 on Smooci but not the top tier who don't appear there who can be up to 10000 , night club pickups 5000.
The majority of oilies and soapies are in the 2000 to 3000 range with some of the more specialized Hi end shops charging twice that and more.
Of course for the members acquainted with the scene few of us and yes there are a few ever pay 5000 and being a little presumptuous we all feel we know how to get a 5 star experience for less.
Anyway not a bad rule of thumb.[/QUOTE]I would not in anyway consider a gogo gal to be 5 star and on par with a luxury hotel.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2340475]I would not in anyway consider a gogo gal to be 5 star and on par with a luxury hotel.[/QUOTE]Is that because she works in a go go?
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Freelancers for 3 some
Hello Experts,
Could you recommend any sexy girls who are up for a good 3 some in Bangkok?
I don't want to pick up the girls from the street. Not into that business.
Any recommendation to a senior here via PM would be appreciated.
Cheers.
K.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2340354] All Asians that go into 5 Star bar get approached by ladyboys, and they don't seem to object to it at all. Some LBs will soon be touching his (Asian guy's) crotch..[/QUOTE]I have a lady friend in Beijing that hangs out in the Mix Club. Last time I was with her she was complaining about the six post-op ladyboys who were working the club (2 Chinese, 4 Thai). She said Chinese men only care about what a girl looks like, they don't care if she used to be a man or if she no good at sex.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2340478]Is that because she works in a go go?[/QUOTE]No, that's because in my 20 years here I've never seen or talked to a gal in a gogo who is good looking, sophisticated enough, or well educated enough to be considered 5 star. A 5 star hooker would be one you could take to a 5 star restaurant and she'd be able to choose the wine. See'Mon. Gogo girls are for the most part farmer's daughters. Yes, some are decent looking, but 5 star? Hardly.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2340654]No, that's because in my 20 years here I've never seen or talked to a gal in a gogo who is good looking, sophisticated enough, or well educated enough to be considered 5 star. A 5 star hooker would be one you could take to a 5 star restaurant and she'd be able to choose the wine. See'Mon. Gogo girls are for the most part farmer's daughters. Yes, some are decent looking, but 5 star? Hardly.[/QUOTE]I met one one at Rainbow gogo in the back right hand corner of Nana. She didn't work there long, but she was awesome. She claimed she had married a Swedish guy when she was 18 years old and moved to Sweden to live at that time. She was 25 when I met her at Rainbow, and she claimed she had just gotten divorced and was working at Rainbow because the money was better than working in an office and she thought maybe she could meet a new husband with money working there. I took her long time and took her to Hard Rock Cafe to hang out with me. Not only a stunner, but extremely intelligent and sophisticated. You would have never guessed she was a gogo girl if you met her around town. I've never met another like her in the Thailand gogo's though.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2340654] she'd be able to choose the wine. [/QUOTE]Other than high end courtesans way out of my budget, where in the P4P world does someone commonly find hookers who are sophisticated enough, educated enough, and able to select fine wines?
The classiest P4P girl I ever met was a stripper in Las Vegas.