FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Long420;2881540]Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.[/QUOTE]I do agree with favoring Oase at the moment over Sharks but am fairly certain that Sharks turnover is much greater than 50%. Probably closer to 80% compared to pre-Rona.

Oase is proportionately nearly as good in optics with half the line up size but less overpriced and better average service.

I've always hoped for the day where haggling situation at Oase was better than Sharks. Did not expect it to come in the form of deterioration of Sharks from a pandemic pricing aftermath.

[QUOTE=Long420;2881540]Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.[/QUOTE]Crina, Melissa, work at Oase since before 2014 . Marina since before 2016 . Sharks is now what was Oase in 2016 , upselling land, when Oase improved since 2019 .

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881473]Been a member there since the site opened. It's basically a Sharks thread much like this site as other clubs also get vastly ignored. Even there, most posters are not locals. German yes, but most are not local.

As for Germans paying tourist rates, they are mostly only guilty of paying 100 per 30 minutes. Rarely do the Germans contribute to the 200/ hour price gouge much less the 250/ HR or 150/30 rate. I assume that they know that for 200/ HR, they can make an appointment with their escort of choice without having to wait or pay an entrance fee.

I'll reiterate, paying 200/ HR at an FKK is dumb mongering, no matter how much someone justifies a girl is worth. It's still an FKK where prices are supposed to allow for quantity of rooms, not one great room. Quality is important but for an FKK sauna club, quantity is supposed to be prioritized. If quality is the priority, the monger should not be in an FKK destroying the concept with their out-of-place justification of ridiculous pricing.

People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.[/QUOTE]Germans are not drivers like me all over Germany. They and locals made increasing rates under lockdown when were no tourists and amazing to read on lustscout how they easily pay 4 CE for little girls I would not give 50 . I can understand a Chinese feeling wow and losing control, when just falling from Beijing, but I can t understand so many Germans overpaying for schoolgirls, or they may really have to cure big frustration from not being able to have girlfriends at school. Of course, girls know they can fuck Asians or some other tourists, but this don t make girls monthly income, when what accept to pay Germans and locals make the new rates norm which increased under lockdown and again on 2022 and 2023 , when as a foreigner visiting all over FKK land and escorts, I don t see any girl who is pretty and true fresh GFE enough to pay 200/60 for at Sharks, when some Germans pay 250/60 for Elektra or even more for Simona, for few baby kiss. For me, Germans and locals are more guilty than tourists for inflation from 50 to 150/30 to get few baby kiss and from 100 to 250 or even more for 1 hour with only low GFE. I like Sharks and I find staff improved, but girls are not good value for me in FKK land, as a foreigner who don t like to play tourist, in brothels.

Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881563]I second this. Even at the new rates, top girls are not making 2000-3000 per day. Yes they may make 2000 to 3000 on a great day but the reality is that they are taking more 30 minute rooms at the 100 e rate and less one hour rooms altogether. Who knows what the actual average daily take-home is for the girls these days but it's not enough to cause a flood of fresh girls, nor a massive exodus beyond the initial post-lockdown exodus. That probably means that incomes are likely much the same as before.

Not a single girl at Sharks is continuously booked. The market is just not supporting that. I saw a rare room wait at Sharks a couple of weeks ago. Four couples were ahead of me but the wait was only about 10 minutes. This means everyone is taking "30 minute" rooms rather than long rooms. And by "30 minutes," I mean quick fuck 20 minute minute rooms.

In the end, what happens is that the top girls win. All girls make less rooms but the top girls end up making the same money for less rooms and time in rooms. I don't even see the top girls disappearing for hours so it seems that they are just taking in 100 e at a time, maybe 150 e with an extra. And even the busiest girls are not doing 15-20 rooms per day.

One of my regulars who is rarely talked about on this board but is popular on the German boards openly stated to me that 500 e on a slow day is okay, 1000 e is usually the goal, and 2000 e is a great day.[/QUOTE]Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.

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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881624]Like I said to other poster. Don't worry about Asian racism in FKKs. Clearly you will see more of it from angry dorks on forums.

Weather in Germany was terrible in December. Rained quite a lot, basically everyday for 2 weeks. Noticed zero masks at grocery stores, restaurants, banks, Christmas markets, FKKs. People preoccupied with the subject who predicted FKK closures through 2021 seem to take more notice.

In the end, it's just more egos in FKK land. Why these people have so much anger when they should be relaxed from regularly blowing their wad on a hooker is beyond me, suspect some idiopathic etiology of disease.[/QUOTE]I think Asian types and other tourists are welcome at Sharks, when girls make losing business to the club. Many girls who have no business with regulars who know about them, like Asians and tourists.

[QUOTE=Canary;2881679]Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

[B]I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks[/B] and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.[/QUOTE]Orthodox New Year is Sunday 14th January 2024. Many girls take a week off during that time or early January. But some choose to take time off this week. I highly doubt anyone is able to predict exactly who is around in two weeks (unless they are a Sharks insider).

First half of January is traditionally a weak period for the FKK clubs: Girls on holiday, and gents hurting because of spending too much money on other stuff during the holidays. I would expect few girls, but also few gents. Please report back after your visit if this made sense.

No recent experience myself, so the following is secondhand info:

Sharks right now is dead prior to 3 pm (10+ girls?), but picks up later with around 80% of normal capacity (reports say 60- 80 girls prior to holiday season, so maybe 50- 70 right now?). Last year 50 girls were confirmed in attendance in early January (just to give you an idea).

Palace has been stable with around 30- 40 girls in attendance prior to holiday season. I assume somewhat weaker in early January (dead in daytime and 20+ in the evenings?), but picks up to 40- 50 for the exhibitions in late January? That's just me trying to give a qualified guess.

[QUOTE=Canary;2881679]Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.[/QUOTE]Nothing to report that would be helpful in 2 weeks. It's Christmas so any report of line ups today will have little resemblance to mid January line ups. Most girls who work everyday per their Christmas contract will take off after new year and be gone for much of January as they do every year.

No one will be able to tell you what it will look like in 2 weeks as girls trickle back in at their unpredictable pace as they do every year.

Girls who left in early December like Brenda or Cataleya plan to be back but on what exact date, no one knows except perhaps some super regulars as girls usually only buy 1 way tickets so they themselves don't even know when they come back.

As for attendance, same as every Christmas. Sausage fest now that will improve in January. Weekday line ups are not good right now. Club gets packed.

On weekend nights. The vibe and attendance is especially desolate during the weekdays. These are things you probably already know.

Current line up is especially heavy in nondescript silicon breasted providers who just look like they would give terrible window girl style service. Expect 200/ HR quote but don't expect that to guarantee good service. Expect 100/30 to be mediocre quickie service.

It's Sharks around the holidays. If you are an experienced monger with high expectations, it will be mediocre to terrible unless you have your regulars.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2881685]Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.[/QUOTE]So this is what you call „real woman GFE" ? When they ask you „when you will come back?" or telling other sweet words?

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2881836]So this is what you call real woman GFE" ? When they ask you when you will come back?" or telling other sweet words?[/QUOTE]For sure, for me, GFE is not only few Romanian baby kiss for extra 50, but much more matter of behavior from the girl for You and no money talk which kill GFE. From my behavior, most girls ask if I go with other girls, who, if I do same with others? When I answer: but You go with other guys, they answer: my job, when You can choose. Meaning: choose only me. Even quality become quite rare in FKK land, but I don t worry much because I can go weekly for months with only one. At GG, my best 2023 club, everybody and staff know I only go with 2, elegant real GFE woman images for 150/60.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2882006]For sure, for me, GFE is not only few Romanian baby kiss for extra 50, but much more matter of behavior from the girl for You and no money talk which kill GFE. From my behavior, most girls ask if I go with other girls, who, if I do same with others? When I answer: but You go with other guys, they answer: my job, when You can choose. Meaning: choose only me. Even quality become quite rare in FKK land, but I don t worry much because I can go weekly for months with only one. At GG, my best 2023 club, everybody and staff know I only go with 2, elegant real GFE woman images for 150/60.[/QUOTE]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-„it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- „there are only shit outside, except you „).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

But I think, this is their job.

40% of their job is sexual things in the room.

20% is their words.

An other 40% is the time in the lobby, when they hunt you, stalk you, observing you.

They know what time their regular come into the club and with which girl the guy talked to and even when / what they eat.

Also thex trade infomation between the groups, anything about their regular, what they like in room, what budget they have and if upselling is possible.

I called Sharks and asked if a particular girl is working on that day. They told me "we do not answer any information regarding girl". I don't know why they do this. I would go there more often if I can confirm "Maria" is working on that day. OASE staff answers if a particular girl is working or on holiday, which is so helpful (especially January, December). If more people complain about this, they may change policy.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2882103]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- there are only shit outside, except you ).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

But I think, this is their job.

40% of their job is sexual things in the room.

20% is their words.

An other 40% is the time in the lobby, when they hunt you, stalk you, observing you.

They know what time their regular come into the club and with which girl the guy talked to and even when / what they eat.

Also thex trade infomation between the groups, anything about their regular, what they like in room, what budget they have and if upselling is possible.[/QUOTE]Yes for looking all what You do, even when they are busy, then I wonder if they ask other girls? How they can know when they are in room? But they don t tell about You, because they want to keep You only for them, they only tell kind of: he is crazy, but no details and friends of this girl won t hunt You, when they were told: private. At Sharks, even I had a really good room with Sena on end of 2021 , but we both know there is a girl between us. This is my experience from what I give to girls, when no other tip than driving more than 1000 kms to return. If a girl propose You 3 some or tell You about another good girl, her friend, then You are only money for her. None of my regulars never proposed me 3 some and at Globe, they didn t want public sex with me, but telling: I prefer more intimate, when they do with other guys, but on Tuesday, after my Christmas big crash over rocks, but I was happy for my 2 days free riding some good spots in Tignes and Val Thorens, I could see how girls fake on public sex, just playing porn show, not in my way for sex, when I enjoy so much to see body reactions on skin, nipples, fluids. Can t lie for this.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2882103]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- there are only shit outside, except you ).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

.[/QUOTE]I had a good laugh.

They call me God, refuse my money and insist to pay me after the session.

[QUOTE=David1266;2882230]I called Sharks and asked if a particular girl is working on that day. They told me "we do not answer any information regarding girl". I don't know why they do this. I would go there more often if I can confirm "Maria" is working on that day. OASE staff answers if a particular girl is working or on holiday, which is so helpful (especially January, December). If more people complain about this, they may change policy.[/QUOTE]Other indeed clubs do, but I can understand why Sharks doesn't, they've had some bad stalking incidents. You can check this group's archives for details.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881473]People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.[/QUOTE]I doubt that such people care. For example, if one is fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and they're on vacation, they would gladly pay 200 an hour for Brenda or Cataleya.

Brothels and WGs are not tailored towards locals, pensioners, retirees, or ex-pats. They're tailored towards tourists. Because tourists will always come and they will always spend. Because that's what tourists do.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to supply and demand.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2882264]I doubt that such people care. For example, if one is fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and they're on vacation, they would gladly pay 200 an hour for Brenda or Cataleya.

Brothels and WGs are not tailored towards locals, pensioners, retirees, or ex-pats. They're tailored towards tourists. Because tourists will always come and they will always spend. Because that's what tourists do.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to supply and demand.[/QUOTE]Even at Sharks where many girls try to fuck tourists with crazy rates they don t worth for their level, when You know a bit else than Sharks and then can compare, nevertheless Germans and locals make business at Sharks, not a Chinese, nor a US, nor me. That s why I think Germans and locals are responsible for upselling now, when they started under lockdown. Less upselling at Oase now.

Brenda should be miss 2023 , when she lost on so many years before, showing the fall for quality for casting since Summer. For me, a miss has to be better mannered. Katalea was miss 2021 for her look when she was fresh. Roxi was miss 2022 , maybe because less upselling. Brenda is elected because no star now, just asking too expensive girls with no charm nor elegance for no dream, when 200 is much too expensive just to empty balls. Pity for Sharks which is a good club I like.

[QUOTE=David1266;2882230]I called Sharks and asked if a particular girl is working on that day. They told me "we do not answer any information regarding girl". I don't know why they do this. I would go there more often if I can confirm "Maria" is working on that day. OASE staff answers if a particular girl is working or on holiday, which is so helpful (especially January, December). If more people complain about this, they may change policy.[/QUOTE]Nothing new, even I think desk improved, more friendly since covid, but they don t know most girls, they can just say more than 100 girls. At Oase, even I like desk girl on day who is really friendly, but she also doesn t know most girls. My tip for Maria is: when You see her, make her cum, quite easy and ask her contact in Russian. Despite my 2 100 rooms with her, I didn t ask, when I see her way to work, leaving, returning, same like one on 2016 , and after my experience with Lora. FR using Romanian pimp technique when I was confirmed for her gypsy pimp, when FB is talking.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2882269]Nothing new, even I think desk improved, more friendly since covid, but they don t know most girls, they can just say more than 100 girls. At Oase, even I like desk girl on day who is really friendly, but she also doesn t know most girls. My tip for Maria is: when You see her, make her cum, quite easy and ask her contact in Russian. Despite my 2 100 rooms with her, I didn t ask, when I see her way to work, leaving, returning, same like one on 2016 , and after my experience with Lora. FR using Romanian pimp technique when I was confirmed for her gypsy pimp, when FB is talking.[/QUOTE]Maria is mostly weekends, say Thursday to Sunday. Sometimes she may come in during week but it's largely depends on how she feels so Friday to Sunday would be the more likely days. For example she's probably at there tonight, she told me last night she was planning to come back.

She also does not stay all night often, I'm not sure how she determines when to leave but she may be out by 1 am some nights if she was there earlier in the afternoon.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2882264]I doubt that such people care. For example, if one is fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and they're on vacation, they would gladly pay 200 an hour for Brenda or Cataleya.

Brothels and WGs are not tailored towards locals, pensioners, retirees, or ex-pats. They're tailored towards tourists. Because tourists will always come and they will always spend. Because that's what tourists do.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to supply and demand.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a conclusion drawn from brothel experience limited to touristy places but not a reflection of the entire FKK scene in Germany. Have a look beyond the Frankfurt scene and reassess locals, expats, retirees, pensioners statement.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2882304]Sounds like a conclusion drawn from brothel experience limited to touristy places but not a reflection of the entire FKK scene in Germany. Have a look beyond the Frankfurt scene and reassess locals, expats, retirees, pensioners statement.[/QUOTE]Many tourist in mind seem to think only Sharks in Germany, when their girls are really not on highest level, nor best value in Germany and even in Hessen. Same about Globe in Switzerland.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2882264]I doubt that such people care. For example, if one is fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and they're on vacation, they would gladly pay 200 an hour.......[/QUOTE]Then I suppose the girls would prefer to go to the zimmer with mongers who are fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and are on vacation.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2882735]Then I suppose the girls would prefer to go to the zimmer with mongers who are fat, ugly, bald, (black or insert minority race here) and or old, and are on vacation.[/QUOTE]Most girls are able to go and suck monsters. As I told superstar Sandra. De: after what I see, I can't go with you.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2882856]Most girls are able to go and suck monsters. As I told superstar Sandra. De: after what I see, I can't go with you.[/QUOTE]So if you don't see its ok? All prostitutes will go and have gone with monsters if the price is right.

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[QUOTE=Turgid;2883065]So if you don't see its ok? All prostitutes will go and have gone with monsters if the price is right.[/QUOTE]When I don't see, even I'm told, but no problem, but when I see, I stopped with some after seeing killing desire image for me. For example, at Globe, superstar Ekaterina was smiling at me while she was fucked in doggy on public, she really seemed not to feel anything from the bald and I know she smiled to me because she wanted we repeat, but I felt she was insulting me, even she was always lovely smiling welcoming with me.

I visited sharks in 2018 for the first time and I was just there for one day. I am planning my second trip to Sharks at the end of January. My only visit to Sharks was good but it was too crowded and chaotic, I was totally confused there. Recently I read in a different thread about what they call the legend of the FKKs who can make your visit exceptional. Has anyone met this Legend at Sharks? , If so where can I find him there? Or how to spot him?

I have planned a visit finally after 5 years and I want to have a good time.

[QUOTE=Sirioja]
Brenda should be miss 2023 , when she lost on so many years before, showing the fall for quality for casting since Summer. For me, a miss has to be better mannered. Katalea was miss 2021 for her look when she was fresh. Roxi was miss 2022 , maybe because less upselling. Brenda is elected because no star now, just asking too expensive girls with no charm nor elegance for no dream, when 200 is much too expensive just to empty balls. Pity for Sharks which is a good club I like.[/QUOTE]It is very hard to consider Brenda as top tier girl in Sharks. After working almost a decade in club, she is a senior veteran of sex industry and could be categorized into MILF group. Even if under pre-covid rate I would not have interest to take her. And she is expensive now.

So people who voted Brenda as Miss 2023 might have taste for mature professionals as Sirio. Just as people who in Taiwan sex forum considered Emma & Melanin as queens of Sharks. LOL.

Catelea, Maria, Ariana should be in the final round for Miss Sharks 2023.

Natalia is the Miss of Acapulco Gold.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2883169]So why not post some [U]specific[/U] info about; 1) what clubs are [U]better[/U] in Germany and Switzerland, 2) which girls are at a [U]higher[/U] level and tell us 3) about the [U]lower[/U] prices?

We all eagerly await your reply with lots of [U]relevant[/U] and [U]specific[/U] information (names of clubs, names of girls, exact prices) that we can all use to our advantage. Many thanks![/QUOTE]For you, Globe is best, helping you with rules for silicon and pierced for 150/30 for average faces, when I love to play with my skill and talent where no rules but freedom, for 150/60 in 5 stars rooms with many windows or in a so beautiful garden compare to Globe roof.

[QUOTE=LoganLucky;2883365]I visited sharks in 2018 for the first time and I was just there for one day. I am planning my second trip to Sharks at the end of January. My only visit to Sharks was good but it was too crowded and chaotic, I was totally confused there. Recently I read in a different thread about what they call the legend of the FKKs who can make your visit exceptional. Has anyone met this Legend at Sharks? , If so where can I find him there? Or how to spot him?

I have planned a visit finally after 5 years and I want to have a good time.[/QUOTE]There is no such a thing as legend or "a perfect guide" because monger's taste differ so much. Not only optics, but also personality, sex skill, age, language proficiency, and price point. For example, Siri has an incomparable vast knowledge, but with all due respect, I can't go to room with many women he recommends including Alina or Sabrina, because our taste is so different. Many people think Katalea of Sharks is hot, but I found she is unattractive. I believe Long420's and the "legend"'s taste are just very similar.

[QUOTE=LoganLucky;2883365]I visited sharks in 2018 for the first time and I was just there for one day. I am planning my second trip to Sharks at the end of January. My only visit to Sharks was good but it was too crowded and chaotic, I was totally confused there. Recently I read in a different thread about what they call the legend of the FKKs who can make your visit exceptional. Has anyone met this Legend at Sharks? , If so where can I find him there? Or how to spot him?

I have planned a visit finally after 5 years and I want to have a good time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoganLucky;2883367]Where and how can I find this legend? I will be visiting at the end of January and I want to have a great time as well.[/QUOTE]If you are lucky, I am pretty sure you can meet him randomly at all the popular clubs around Germany. He knew about almost every girl at SHARKS so you would definitely see him there. I met him during a party at OASE on a Saturday. He is a very attractive young man, neither white nor black in color. He looks completely different than other guys in the club. I was sitting outside in the garden of Oase looking at the beautiful Roman statues, then he appeared like a Greek God infront of me and changed my entire journey. Some girls told me he looks like a KING from his country.

Unless you meet him he is a myth, like a legend you hear in the stories. Once you meet him you realize he is real, a genius and a true legend.

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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2883503]It is very hard to consider Brenda as top tier girl in Sharks. After working almost a decade in club, she is a senior veteran of sex industry and could be categorized into MILF group. Even if under pre-covid rate I would not have interest to take her. And she is expensive now.

So people who voted Brenda as Miss 2023 might have taste for mature professionals as Sirio. Just as people who in Taiwan sex forum considered Emma & Melanin as queens of Sharks. LOL.

Catelea, Maria, Ariana should be in the final round for Miss Sharks 2023.

Natalia is the Miss of Acapulco Gold.[/QUOTE]Since 2016 , I was never attracted by Brenda despite her amazing naturals. Her election on 2023 , when she lost on many years, Katalea was elected on 2021 when she arrived and more fresh, just show level of casting now. My 3 wow at Sharks on 2023,2 Germans age 22 and 23 and a gypsy pimped French age 21 , had 0 vote and I m very happy about this, showing how I m different in this business.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2883503]It is very hard to consider Brenda as top tier girl in Sharks. After working almost a decade in club, she is a senior veteran of sex industry and could be categorized into MILF group. Even if under pre-covid rate I would not have interest to take her. And she is expensive now.

So people who voted Brenda as Miss 2023 might have taste for mature professionals as Sirio. Just as people who in Taiwan sex forum considered Emma & Melanin as queens of Sharks. LOL.

Catelea, Maria, Ariana should be in the final round for Miss Sharks 2023.

Natalia is the Miss of Acapulco Gold.[/QUOTE]From her low level for sex, I doubt Natalia would be elected Miss Gold, when You seem to enjoy low level for sex.

[QUOTE=David1266;2883555]There is no such a thing as legend or "a perfect guide" because monger's taste differ so much. Not only optics, but also personality, sex skill, age, language proficiency, and price point. For example, Siri has an incomparable vast knowledge, but with all due respect, I can't go to room with many women he recommends including Alina or Sabrina, because our taste is so different. Many people think Katalea of Sharks is hot, but I found she is unattractive. I believe Long420's and the "legend"'s taste are just very similar.[/QUOTE]I fully agree we have different eyes and brain and even for else than girls, when I usually don t see same than some in clubs. Also very different way with girls, when I often experience my way pay for no extra about sex or time. Funny my 2 best at Sharks on 2023,2 Germans age 22 and 23 were so confidential with 0 vote, when high GFE level in bed with me, but I m happy about this. Yes, I m not attracted by schoolgirls, but much more excited by elegant looking like woman and I love when they put off to be naked for me in NRW, so erotic. When I so often left Sharks or Globe or Wellcum with no room, I don t pay to empty balls, but only to dream, even I don t have room without fucking, when I love to fuck to see bodies reactions with chicken skin, hardening pointing nipples, going wet, sometimes natural blood. I love when girls ask: can I go to toilets after DATY or fucking.

When is the best time to visit?

I only have time after 8 pm to visit and planning to stay till to closes?

[QUOTE=LittleShrimp;2883803]When is the best time to visit?

I only have time after 8 pm to visit and planning to stay till to closes?[/QUOTE]On Sunday after 8 pm, you will be king of harem. Good luck to find one for your taste.

Is there an actual competition held at the club? How is this title awarded?

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2882103]


Also thex trade infomation between the groups, anything about their regular, what they like in room, what budget they have and if upselling is possible.[/QUOTE]I don't think this is true. They don't trade information about a customer, especially their favorite customer, because they are competitors. Possibly inside their clique, but never between groups.

Also most girls don't have good memory. I visited Sharks every few months, but I still get asked "Is this your first time?" from the same girls I spoke with before.

Some girls have an extremely good memory though. For example, Alina and Sabrina. I am always stunned by their memory.

[QUOTE=David1266;2884098]I don't think this is true. They don't trade information about a customer, especially their favorite customer, because they are competitors. Possibly inside their clique, but never between groups.

Also most girls don't have good memory. I visited Sharks every few months, but I still get asked "Is this your first time?" from the same girls I spoke with before.

Some girls have an extremely good memory though. For example, Alina and Sabrina. I am always stunned by their memory.[/QUOTE]In my experience, negative information is spread amongst the girls like wild fire. Demanding guys, cheap guys, smelly guys.

Other point about their regulars is probably accurate.

[QUOTE=LittleShrimp;2883803]When is the best time to visit?

I only have time after 8 pm to visit and planning to stay till to closes?[/QUOTE]If you are using your own car, I would arrive at 4 pm. There is rarely any available parking.

Some girls such as Brenda won't be there by 8 pm.

I like to arrive at a time where I can capture both the "day shift" WGs and "night shift" WGs.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2883503]It is very hard to consider Brenda as top tier girl in Sharks. After working almost a decade in club, she is a senior veteran of sex industry and could be categorized into MILF group. Even if under pre-covid rate I would not have interest to take her. And she is expensive now.
[/QUOTE]The fact that Brenda can work a decade in the club, and still make more money and have more customers than the average WG, tells me she is still top tier. The fact that "she is expensive now" further illustrates her high demand.

In my book, top tier isn’t based on how long or how little you've been working. Top tier is based on body, face, service, and demand.
[QUOTE=David1266;2883555]There is no such a thing as legend or "a perfect guide" because monger's taste differ so much. [/QUOTE]
I agree. Plus monger budgets differ as well and monger experiences and expectations differ.

Just because a WG gives one monger good service, doesnt mean the next monger believes that same service qualifies as good to him. Some mongers dont like deep french kissing, some do. Some mongers dont like eating pussy and ass, some do. Some mongers dont like using up the full 30 minutes or 60 minutes after they bust their nut, other mongers demand it. Some mongers tip, some dont.

There is no perfect guide.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2883786]I don t pay to empty balls, but only to dream, even I don t have room without fucking, when I love to fuck to see bodies reactions with chicken skin, hardening pointing nipples, going wet, sometimes natural blood. I love when girls ask: can I go to toilets after DATY or fucking.[/QUOTE]I am curious, why do you love when they need to go to bathroom. Don't you think they just go there to pie. It does not necessary mean that you made them come.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2884246]The fact that Brenda can work a decade in the club, and still make more money and have more customers than the average WG, tells me she is still top tier. The fact that "she is expensive now" further illustrates her high demand.
.[/QUOTE]I have to second Tovko. Of course Brenda is top tier.

Brenda is one of a kind. She is very disciplined. Comes early and goes early. She does not „just hang around" like other girls and one has to admit that she returned from holidays this year in her best shape ever. She came back from holiday very lean (even leaner than before) and looks amazing.

The service is still among the best.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2884246]
I agree. Plus monger budgets differ as well and monger experiences and expectations differ.

Just because a WG gives one monger good service, doesnt mean the next monger believes that same service qualifies as good to him. Some mongers dont like deep french kissing, some do. Some mongers dont like eating pussy and ass, some do. Some mongers dont like using up the full 30 minutes or 60 minutes after they bust their nut, other mongers demand it. Some mongers tip, some dont.
[/QUOTE]COMPLETELY TRUE! Throw in each mongers tastes (thin or curvy. Blond or red head, tiny butt. More round) and all you can be assured is that some girls are more busy than others; they tend to work a bit harder to make the client feel appreciated but they might not be YOUR dream zimmer! Otherwise it's a complete crapshoot!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2884115]In my experience, negative information is spread amongst the girls like wild fire. Demanding guys, cheap guys, smelly guys.

Other point about their regulars is probably accurate.[/QUOTE]Yes, for bad writter like me, but girls who want me for regular don t tell much, as long I visit, but some turning mad when I stop.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2884330]as long I visit, but some turning mad when I stop.[/QUOTE]Girls come to club for money not for love or orgasm.

Girls would turn mad only if you paid them less, not because you stop visiting.

I know many girls like me because I always pay them 200/ hour, or booked long sessions with multiple hours. Almost all my favorites girls accepted my offer 1000 euros for 9-consecutive-hours. (I. E. From 2 pm-11 pm even during Friday and Saturday).

I came here not to prove my charm but just for fun and relaxation.

So money talks.

Girls never like stingy customers.

Catelea provided best service to me because I paid her as she requested (200/ hour) and usually booked her 2-hours each session. You still want her to give you old time rate 150/60, so she would be mad at you.

All top tier girls in Shark accept 200/60 from me and provide good service. Stacy was mad at me once because I stopped taking her recently. I paid her 200/60 before.

Of course I never take branda / brandy since 2016 because I don't like her gloomy face. She seems unhappy all the time.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2884314]I have to second Tovko. Of course Brenda is top tier.

Brenda is one of a kind. She is very disciplined. Comes early and goes early. She does not just hang around" like other girls and one has to admit that she returned from holidays this year in her best shape ever. She came back from holiday very lean (even leaner than before) and looks amazing.

The service is still among the best.[/QUOTE]I know Brenda who was Lea on 2016 and never paid for her face. Fact she was elected on 2023 after losing since many years, even Roxi defeated her on 2022 , just show the big fall for casting since last Summer, for now more expensive for lower quality = lower looks and many Romanian little girls. On end of 2022 , with few new girls, I thought new rates would attract some from escorting or on this level, but except Sofi. De, others left Sharks, unfortunately. Sharks casting is now really not at best for value for quality and money. GG was far higher quality for my girls for 150/60 on 2023 and I didn t even try Paula. Pol, Kira, Emy and a Belgium escort, I was too slow letting her discovering and she left after less than 2 hours.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2884314]I have to second Tovko. Of course Brenda is top tier.

Brenda is one of a kind. She is very disciplined. Comes early and goes early. She does not just hang around" like other girls and one has to admit that she returned from holidays this year in her best shape ever. She came back from holiday very lean (even leaner than before) and looks amazing.

The service is still among the best.[/QUOTE]I went with her 1 time in 2017 and did not like the experience at all. She is far to cold and professional. It was a very mechanical session. I never understood the hype around this girl. So be careful, this girl is not everyone's cup of tea.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2883964]Is there an actual competition held at the club? How is this title awarded?[/QUOTE]Nope, just a bunch of French guys in the French forum voting on a survey just like if you would conduct a survey here. From what I've noticed, their selection every year is rather mundane, not really reflecting actual quality, just the most popular girl amongst speaking circles. The fact that Brenda made the list is kind of ridiculous yet reflective. She's a known commodity for her tits but even her tits are not what they used to be. No one has ever raved about her service or anything else for that matter. Alternatively, many have said how her face is butter, personality is cold, service mechanical.

[QUOTE=David1266;2883555]There is no such a thing as legend or "a perfect guide" because monger's taste differ so much. Not only optics, but also personality, sex skill, age, language proficiency, and price point. For example, Siri has an incomparable vast knowledge, but with all due respect, I can't go to room with many women he recommends including Alina or Sabrina, because our taste is so different. Many people think Katalea of Sharks is hot, but I found she is unattractive. I believe Long420's and the "legend"'s taste are just very similar.[/QUOTE]I want all to understand that a LEGEND is a LEGEND for a reason, not just a perfect guide or frequent reviewer on the forum with some experience. After having a decade of FKK experience, I thought I was an expert myself unless I met the LEGEND. The legend's experience and stories will inspire you to go beyond limit and look at FKKs in a different way.

The legend is a genius.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2884310]I am curious, why do you love when they need to go to bathroom. Don't you think they just go there to pie. It does not necessary mean that you made them come.[/QUOTE]For the way and reason they tell and also when they tell: now I can t work after You, some taking more than half hour to return to business.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2884498]Nope, just a bunch of French guys in the French forum voting on a survey just like if you would conduct a survey here. From what I've noticed, their selection every year is rather mundane, not really reflecting actual quality, just the most popular girl amongst speaking circles. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2884498]The fact that Brenda made the list is kind of ridiculous yet reflective. She's a known commodity for her tits but even her tits are not what they used to be. No one has ever raved about her service or anything else for that matter. Alternatively, many have said how her face is butter, personality is cold, service mechanical.[/QUOTE]I've been with Brenda a few times over the years and always found her service (and her huge tits) very good. But I know not everyone's so enthusiastic about her.

[QUOTE=Long420;2884658]I want all to understand that a LEGEND is a LEGEND for a reason, not just a perfect guide or frequent reviewer on the forum with some experience. After having a decade of FKK experience, I thought I was an expert myself unless I met the LEGEND. The legend's experience and stories will inspire you to go beyond limit and look at FKKs in a different way.

The legend is a genius.[/QUOTE]Since 2013 , I want to be only me, when I know so different. Since then, I heard so many claimed specialists and laughed a lot about them. When I hear about a natural beauty and again on this Saturday around Bern. Ch, I m almost always so disappointed. I only trust me.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2884424]I went with her 1 time in 2017 and did not like the experience at all. She is far to cold and professional. It was a very mechanical session. I never understood the hype around this girl. So be careful, this girl is not everyone's cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I went with Brenda once. I had a conversation with her. She is one of the most sensible working girls I have ever spoken with. She is balanced and has her life well organized. The session was very professional. With her you are fully aware that she is doing a job. Indeed all prostitutes are doing a job but with Brenda there is no semblance of any emotion, I would not call her a starfish but her extreme professionalism diminished the session for me. How can anyone blame her? After being to bed with thousands of mongers it is difficult to have any emotion.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2884892]Since 2013 , I want to be only me, when I know so different. Since then, I heard so many claimed specialists and laughed a lot about them. When I hear about a natural beauty and again on this Saturday around Bern. Ch, I m almost always so disappointed. I only trust me.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. Since 2013, you have been very productive too. As I estimated that you can provide 100+ posts for every visit. You contributed by far the most information on forum. Merveilleux!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2885061]I went with Brenda once. I had a conversation with her. She is one of the most sensible working girls I have ever spoken with. She is balanced and has her life well organized. The session was very professional. With her you are fully aware that she is doing a job. Indeed all prostitutes are doing a job but with Brenda there is no semblance of any emotion, I would not call her a starfish but her extreme professionalism diminished the session for me. How can anyone blame her? After being to bed with thousands of mongers it is difficult to have any emotion.[/QUOTE]It's called autism. Useful if focused correctly.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2885061]I went with Brenda once. I had a conversation with her. She is one of the most sensible working girls I have ever spoken with. She is balanced and has her life well organized. The session was very professional. With her you are fully aware that she is doing a job. Indeed all prostitutes are doing a job but with Brenda there is no semblance of any emotion, I would not call her a starfish but her extreme professionalism diminished the session for me. How can anyone blame her? After being to bed with thousands of mongers it is difficult to have any emotion.[/QUOTE]Professional without emotion is no interest for me, and very average face for me. Some pay 150/30 for her, when I didn't go when was 50/30.

Hi!

Some time ago I was in the room with a very beautiful girl, brunette, long black hair, no tattoos or piercings, with perfect natural breasts neither too big nor too small, athletic body as if she does sports but she doesn't, and I like her how she makes her eyeliner like a cat, but I haven't seen her in the club since then, her name is Felin, she sits on the couch in front of the bar, next to the stairs to the rooms, does anyone know if she's on vacation? Or when she comes back?

[QUOTE=TimoZak;2885138]Hi!

Some time ago I was in the room with a very beautiful girl, brunette, long black hair, no tattoos or piercings, with perfect natural breasts neither too big nor too small, athletic body as if she does sports but she doesn't, and I like her how she makes her eyeliner like a cat, but I haven't seen her in the club since then, her name is Felin, she sits on the couch in front of the bar, next to the stairs to the rooms, does anyone know if she's on vacation? Or when she comes back?[/QUOTE]She went home to buy a flat at her hometown. She will come back until she run out of money.

I'm surprised not many posts about Maira (romanian) in the group. This girl is a firecracker. So far best experience for me during my 5 day marathon.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2884892]Since 2013 , I want to be only me, when I know so different. Since then, I heard so many claimed specialists and laughed a lot about them. When I hear about a natural beauty and again on this Saturday around Bern. Ch, I m almost always so disappointed. I only trust me.[/QUOTE]I was like you until I met the legend so I don't call him just a specialist. There are many who claim to be so. What makes the legend different is that, he gave me a different perspective to look at the girls. When I went with the girls he recommended and talked about him, I found out that they all knew him very well. Girls love this young man which is very rare in FKKs for someone who is not European / American kind of a white guy. I will always remember his words "FKK is an art". I met him at Oase and he considered it as the most beautiful FKK in this world.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2885177]She went home to buy a flat at her hometown. She will come back until she run out of money.[/QUOTE]I don't care about what she does with her money, she have the best services I ever experience in the club, she's also very kind and friendly, I hope she will be back soon.

[QUOTE=Samcik;2885223]I'm surprised not many posts about Maira (romanian) in the group. This girl is a firecracker. So far best experience for me during my 5 day marathon.[/QUOTE]You will discover that the best services providers and the best behaviors are never talked about on this board. There are not many in the club but there are still quite a few girls worth the visit.

[QUOTE=Long420;2885262]I was like you until I met the legend so I don't call him just a specialist. There are many who claim to be so. What makes the legend different is that, he gave me a different perspective to look at the girls. When I went with the girls he recommended and talked about him, I found out that they all knew him very well. Girls love this young man which is very rare in FKKs for someone who is not European / American kind of a white guy. I will always remember his words "FKK is an art". I met him at Oase and he considered it as the most beautiful FKK in this world.[/QUOTE]So, he has only low knowledge of FKK land, when Oase may be higher level than Sharks at the moment, but for sure, not highest level in FKK land. If you saw Golden gate garden on Summer, Oase and Sharks can't compete for sex in garden. I lived my dream with Russia on this Summer. You may be impressed, only because you are Asian, but a Caucasian like me don't live same experience.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2885069]Yes, I agree. Since 2013, you have been very productive too. As I estimated that you can provide 100+ posts for every visit. You contributed by far the most information on forum. Merveilleux![/QUOTE]I often write, not to feel asleep and stay alive, while driving whole night. Sometimes writing, when about 270 on autobahns with Venus8 , when my aim is 300 on GPS, I m preparing it for.

[QUOTE=TimoZak;2885138]Hi!

Some time ago I was in the room with a very beautiful girl, brunette, long black hair, no tattoos or piercings, with perfect natural breasts neither too big nor too small, athletic body as if she does sports but she doesn't, and I like her how she makes her eyeliner like a cat, but I haven't seen her in the club since then, her name is Felin, she sits on the couch in front of the bar, next to the stairs to the rooms, does anyone know if she's on vacation? Or when she comes back?[/QUOTE]With really not beautiful nose? A no go for me, when face is important to feel desire and to enjoy kissing.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2885069]Yes, I agree. Since 2013, you have been very productive too. As I estimated that you can provide 100+ posts for every visit. You contributed by far the most information on forum. Merveilleux![/QUOTE]Quantity does not mean quality I'm afraid.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2884365]Girls come to club for money not for love or orgasm.

Girls would turn mad only if you paid them less, not because you stop visiting.

I know many girls like me because I always pay them 200/ hour, or booked long sessions with multiple hours. Almost all my favorites girls accepted my offer 1000 euros for 9-consecutive-hours. (I. E. From 2 pm-11 pm even during Friday and Saturday).

I came here not to prove my charm but just for fun and relaxation.

So money talks.

Girls never like stingy customers.

Catelea provided best service to me because I paid her as she requested (200/ hour) and usually booked her 2-hours each session. You still want her to give you old time rate 150/60, so she would be mad at you.

All top tier girls in Shark accept 200/60 from me and provide good service. Stacy was mad at me once because I stopped taking her recently. I paid her 200/60 before.

Of course I never take branda / brandy since 2016 because I don't like her gloomy face. She seems unhappy all the time.[/QUOTE]I never pay 200/60.

I Always pay 150/60 and I get very good service from the girls.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2885566]I never pay 200/60.

I Always pay 150/60 and I get very good service from the girls.[/QUOTE]Are you getting CIM for that price too? If so, then you're doing good!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2885411]With really not beautiful nose? A no go for me, when face is important to feel desire and to enjoy kissing.[/QUOTE]Her nose is totally normal as long as she is all natural top to bottom, for me her face is really sexy and atractive, especially when she makes eye contact with you with that "fuck me" eyes.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2885409]I often write, not to feel asleep and stay alive, while driving whole night. Sometimes writing, when about 270 on autobahns with Venus8 , when my aim is 300 on GPS, I m preparing it for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2885505]Quantity does not mean quality I'm afraid.[/QUOTE]If he wrote posts while driving whole night, you should not expect quality. But the quantity he wrote is Remarkable. And at least he mentioned many girls' names. As I remember he was the first one in Forum to mention Megan or Catelea or Bailey.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2885566]I never pay 200/60.

I Always pay 150/60 and I get very good service from the girls.[/QUOTE]But some prefer to pay more expensive for lower level and even really low level like Natali with average teeth at Gold. Some Germans pay 250/60 for some Romanian schoolgirls, they might miss when they were 14/15 yo at school. Funny at Sharks is highest levels are not for most expensive. Not in my culture to pay more expensive for lower quality.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2885588]Are you getting CIM for that price too? If so, then you're doing good![/QUOTE]No CIM included.

[QUOTE=Long420;2883653]If you are lucky, I am pretty sure you can meet him randomly at all the popular clubs around Germany. He knew about almost every girl at SHARKS so you would definitely see him there. I met him during a party at OASE on a Saturday. He is a very attractive young man, neither white nor black in color. He looks completely different than other guys in the club. I was sitting outside in the garden of Oase looking at the beautiful Roman statues, then he appeared like a Greek God infront of me and changed my entire journey. Some girls told me he looks like a KING from his country.

Unless you meet him he is a myth, like a legend you hear in the stories. Once you meet him you realize he is real, a genius and a true legend.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the information. I have never been to Oase but it seems like it is on the highest level now according to the reviews in the forum and also the best place to meet THE LEGEND. I will make a visit this time. If I am lucky to meet the legend, I will convey your Thank You message in person to him.

Just wondering if anyone has seen Desiree from Mauritania recently in Sharks?

She is black, silicon and speaks with a French accent.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2884705]. I loved . . .social about her psoriasis on elbows. She turned so lovely, asking: next time? . . . but I need wow look and image to feel pleasure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2885730]But some prefer to pay more expensive for lower level and even really low level like Natali with average teeth at Gold. Some Germans pay 250/60 for some Romanian schoolgirls, they might miss when they were 14/15 yo at school. Funny at Sharks is highest levels are not for most expensive. Not in my culture to pay more expensive for lower quality.[/QUOTE]I paid Natalia 100/60 which is a good deal. Natalia is prettier and younger than 90% Sharks girls. If she is in Sharks she would become top tier of club.

At least Natalia is healthy without Psoriasis.

I have no taste as Sirioja who likes girl with Psoriasis.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2885712]If he wrote posts while driving whole night, you should not expect quality. But the quantity he wrote is Remarkable. And at least he mentioned many girls' names. As I remember he was the first one in Forum to mention Megan or Catelea or Bailey.[/QUOTE]Or when in traffic around Paris which stress me, then writing relax me. When I started, I named much more, but I discovered many guys behavior begging same to girls. Now, I say to my girls: if a guy need to tell You about me, then this guy just has a problem, I warn my good girls and try to avoid they are bothered because of me. I keep on weekly repeating with some. Today, I was her fourth room after watching Wengen, but I m virgin, I didn t fuck yet she told after her DATY orgasm as usual. Very reactive on fucking, when virgin since 10 days. 150/60 for Russian quality.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2885798]
Just wondering if anyone has seen Desiree from Mauritania recently in Sharks?[/QUOTE]No.

Someone told me that ladyman Desiree is working in Dubai now.

This is a late report, but I thought I would share my notes from my visit to Sharks in October. I had a long layover so I decided to spend most of it at Sharks.

Serena (150 euros for 30 minutes) - 28 year old Romanian with hair dyed blonde. She wore white lingerie. Serena had fake hard tits and was very cute but very business like. She gave me a BBBJ, and we started fucking. She complained about fucking for 30 minutes when we had only fucked for about 8 minutes. She said that's why girls don't like fucking "your kind" (meaning, we like to fuck for the full session). I came in the condom, dressed, and left the room. Serena was very attractive, but she was not good at fucking despite being attractive. I recommend skipping her.

Andrea (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Short, cute, nice ass. Romanian. Had tattoos of two lions and said she loved lions and wanted more lion tattoos. Much better experience than Serena. Nice bbbj. Tight pussy. Condom broke while we were fucking, and I saw it bunched around my shaft like a turtleneck when I pulled it out. Andrea another condom on and we continued fucking. Fingered her asshole. Didn't cum because I wanted to save my stamina for more fucking.

After Andrea, I saw a tall, thin, super model like woman. She looked extremely sexy, and I learned her name was Kitty. I approached her for a session, and we agreed to 30 minutes. We went into one of the rooms, and we both got naked. However, she said she needed to go get some sheets. I mentioned that I'll stop the timer I had started to make sure I made the most of my 30 minutes. She freaked out and said she doesn't like timers and walked away. Kitty would have probably been the most attractive girl I fucked in all of 2023, and I've fucked some beautiful women. Oh well.

Lorielle (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Bulgarian, very cute face, decent body, great attitude. Really enjoyed fucking her, and she seemed to get into it. Very nice bbbj. Fingered her ass hole while fucking her. Didn't cum to preserve my stamina.

Maxima (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Very sexy with a small waist and a fat ass. Hard fake tits, unfortunately, but a very attractive face. Half French and half Tunisian. Gave a nice BBBJ. I joked that her ass was Tunisian. I enjoyed making that ass bounce while fucking her. Didn't cum.

Dahlia (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Romanian, thin. Businesslike. Came up to me and I broke my rule of not going with women who approach me. Gave a nice BBBJ. She was a decent fuck, and I fingered her asshole in various positions. I finished by shooting my ropes into her mouth.

Rebekah (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Tall and thin. From Spain. Cute face. BBBJ Fucked in various positions. Surprised I could cum after blasting Dahlia's mouth.

With Melissa I had many rooms since 2 years. Since December 2023 she suddenly asked me for 150 euro 30 min for normal GFE, and 200 Euro 60 min.

Before that I always paid 100/30 min, 150/60 min.

And she insists very much. How are your experiencee?

[QUOTE=Atanion;2885971]This is a late report, but I thought I would share my notes from my visit to Sharks in October. I had a long layover so I decided to spend most of it at Sharks.

Serena (150 euros for 30 minutes) - 28 year old Romanian with hair dyed blonde. She wore white lingerie. Serena had fake hard tits and was very cute but very business like. She gave me a BBBJ, and we started fucking. She complained about fucking for 30 minutes when we had only fucked for about 8 minutes. She said that's why girls don't like fucking "your kind" (meaning, we like to fuck for the full session). I came in the condom, dressed, and left the room. Serena was very attractive, but she was not good at fucking despite being attractive. I recommend skipping her.

Andrea (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Short, cute, nice ass. Romanian. Had tattoos of two lions and said she loved lions and wanted more lion tattoos. Much better experience than Serena. Nice bbbj. Tight pussy. Condom broke while we were fucking, and I saw it bunched around my shaft like a turtleneck when I pulled it out. Andrea another condom on and we continued fucking. Fingered her asshole. Didn't cum because I wanted to save my stamina for more fucking.

After Andrea, I saw a tall, thin, super model like woman. She looked extremely sexy, and I learned her name was Kitty. I approached her for a session, and we agreed to 30 minutes. We went into one of the rooms, and we both got naked. However, she said she needed to go get some sheets. I mentioned that I'll stop the timer I had started to make sure I made the most of my 30 minutes. She freaked out and said she doesn't like timers and walked away. Kitty would have probably been the most attractive girl I fucked in all of 2023, and I've fucked some beautiful women. Oh well.

Lorielle (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Bulgarian, very cute face, decent body, great attitude. Really enjoyed fucking her, and she seemed to get into it. Very nice bbbj. Fingered her ass hole while fucking her. Didn't cum to preserve my stamina.

Maxima (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Very sexy with a small waist and a fat ass. Hard fake tits, unfortunately, but a very attractive face. Half French and half Tunisian. Gave a nice BBBJ. I joked that her ass was Tunisian. I enjoyed making that ass bounce while fucking her. Didn't cum.

Dahlia (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Romanian, thin. Businesslike. Came up to me and I broke my rule of not going with women who approach me. Gave a nice BBBJ. She was a decent fuck, and I fingered her asshole in various positions. I finished by shooting my ropes into her mouth.

Rebekah (100 euros for 30 minutes) - Tall and thin. From Spain. Cute face. BBBJ Fucked in various positions. Surprised I could cum after blasting Dahlia's mouth.[/QUOTE]Have to be taller than 1,77 bare feet, Kity is not, for supermodel. 150/30 ? For silicon, then I will stay with my Russian or Italian natural woman types for 150/60 or Rhur German for 120/60 now, for my GFE sex.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2885971]
After Andrea, I saw a tall, thin, super model like woman. She looked extremely sexy, and I learned her name was Kitty. I approached her for a session, and we agreed to 30 minutes. We went into one of the rooms, and we both got naked. However, she said she needed to go get some sheets. I mentioned that I'll stop the timer I had started to make sure I made the most of my 30 minutes. She freaked out and said she doesn't like timers and walked away. Kitty would have probably been the most attractive girl I fucked in all of 2023, and I've fucked some beautiful women. Oh well.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, nice to get something other than prices talked about here. Based on my one session with Kitty you didn't miss out on anything. I didn't check my watch in the room so can't be sure of the exact timings I got maybe one minute BJ from her before she opened the condom, I asked for some more, she said of course and I got maybe another 20 seconds worth before she decided that was enough and on went the condom. Quite a few girls use their fingers during sex to stop the condom from slipping, Kitty was the only girl I've been with who adopted a double hands approach to this during missionary. Doggy was slightly better and I managed to finish. With that it was much viewed as time to go even though we were nowhere near the 30 minute mark.

Saying all that it wasn't a complete waste of 100 euros as you pointed out she is extremely attractive. I like slim young girls with small breasts and white skin so she should be perfect for me but I've had no desire to repeat with her on subsequent visits.

[QUOTE=Terryhoxlhx;2885973]With Melissa I had many rooms since 2 years. Since December 2023 she suddenly asked me for 150 euro 30 min for normal GFE, and 200 Euro 60 min.

Before that I always paid 100/30 min, 150/60 min.

And she insists very much. How are your experiencee?[/QUOTE]She was already asking 150/60 before covid, one of the rare at this time. When little girls or looking like nothing ask crazy rates, why do You want Melissa who is prettier and smarter than most, work for less than average looks with low level for sex. But, fortunately, other better places than Sharks casting now. Brenda elected as Miss 2023, just show the big fall for quality.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2885932]No.

Someone told me that ladyman Desiree is working in Dubai now.[/QUOTE]What is ladyman? Black has not high value in Dubai.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2886069]Thanks for the report, nice to get something other than prices talked about here. Based on my one session with Kitty you didn't miss out on anything. I didn't check my watch in the room so can't be sure of the exact timings I got maybe one minute BJ from her before she opened the condom, I asked for some more, she said of course and I got maybe another 20 seconds worth before she decided that was enough and on went the condom. Quite a few girls use their fingers during sex to stop the condom from slipping, Kitty was the only girl I've been with who adopted a double hands approach to this during missionary. Doggy was slightly better and I managed to finish. With that it was much viewed as time to go even though we were nowhere near the 30 minute mark.

Saying all that it wasn't a complete waste of 100 euros as you pointed out she is extremely attractive. I like slim young girls with small breasts and white skin so she should be perfect for me but I've had no desire to repeat with her on subsequent visits.[/QUOTE]On my single 100/30 room with her on April 2022, best for me with Kity was fucking when she got quite good stamina, compare to so many small pussies. Yesterday, my Russian held my arms, pulling me deep inside her, when her first fucking since 10 days, even I was her fourth room when I watched Wengen. Ch legendary Lauberhorn. She was quite wet, after only fkissing.

[QUOTE=TimoZak;2885649]Her nose is totally normal as long as she is all natural top to bottom, for me her face is really sexy and atractive, especially when she makes eye contact with you with that "fuck me" eyes.[/QUOTE]Doesn't she have kind of eagle nose? My apologize to her if I mistook for the girl. I love Siberian upturned nose with round face, looking like little bear.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2886069]Thanks for the report, nice to get something other than prices talked about here. Based on my one session with Kitty you didn't miss out on anything. I didn't check my watch in the room so can't be sure of the exact timings I got maybe one minute BJ from her before she opened the condom, I asked for some more, she said of course and I got maybe another 20 seconds worth before she decided that was enough and on went the condom. Quite a few girls use their fingers during sex to stop the condom from slipping, Kitty was the only girl I've been with who adopted a double hands approach to this during missionary. Doggy was slightly better and I managed to finish. With that it was much viewed as time to go even though we were nowhere near the 30 minute mark.

Saying all that it wasn't a complete waste of 100 euros as you pointed out she is extremely attractive. I like slim young girls with small breasts and white skin so she should be perfect for me but I've had no desire to repeat with her on subsequent visits.[/QUOTE]I always thought the two finger thing was to keep someone from going as deep and pounding the cervix or whatever. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think it is for the condom in missionary. In missionary their knuckles give them an inch or so less?

[QUOTE=Atanion;2885971]....... She freaked out and said she doesn't like timers and walked away.......[/QUOTE]One could reasonably assume that she gives 20 minute or less 30 minute sessions.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2886129]Doesn't she have kind of eagle nose? My apologize to her if I mistook for the girl. I love Siberian upturned nose with round face, looking like little bear.[/QUOTE]No, it's not that big how you describe it, she kinda looks arabic / turkish, but she is romanian, that's why she attracts many middle east customers, they love noses and especially eyes like hers.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2886133]I always thought the two finger thing was to keep someone from going as deep and pounding the cervix or whatever. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think it is for the condom in missionary. In missionary their knuckles give them an inch or so less?[/QUOTE]Yes, girls controlling condom as they say, do most often to prevent You to enter too deep. Killing desire for me. Megan never did on my more than 30 times with her in Germany, nor when she started at Globe, but did 2 years later, and also Sara, when girls are too professionnal now there under rules, when You are big, as they say. On this Saturday, with my Russian real woman, when she changed position while doggy, a bit arching when she is not used, so I asked: bolna? She answered: pain with pleasure, when she didn t have sex since 10 days, when I was her fourth room, but so many guys prefer to talk or be only sucked, when not able to fuck like You, she told. Sorry to be a real fucker, as long I will be able, when I love to make cum girls I choose, some asking for again, relaxing them, they tell.

[QUOTE=Samcik;2885223]I'm surprised not many posts about Maira (romanian) in the group. This girl is a firecracker. So far best experience for me during my 5 day marathon.[/QUOTE]Is Maira back at Sharks? She was on vacation when I visited in Dec.

[QUOTE=TimoZak;2886323]No, it's not that big how you describe it, she kinda looks arabic / turkish, but she is romanian, that's why she attracts many middle east customers, they love noses and especially eyes like hers.[/QUOTE]So, she is the one I was remembering, even no room with her, when not attractive face for a Caucasian like me, but I agree for natural body with beautiful naturals and I Qdon't remember tattoes.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2885894]I paid Natalia 100/60 which is a good deal. Natalia is prettier and younger than 90% Sharks girls. If she is in Sharks she would become top tier of club.

At least Natalia is healthy without Psoriasis.

I have no taste as Sirioja who likes girl with Psoriasis.[/QUOTE]When I got Natalia when she was new at Gold, yes for natural look, but 40/30 for her was a waste of money, when she was not able for normal sex with a normal Caucasian man. After 6 1 hour rooms, Katalea asked me to keep on going with her on September 2021 , when I was her last client from her arrival day at Sharks, for 150/60 with chicken skin on her ass and her pointing nipples, when Tara was much higher level in bed for 100/60 and 150/80 on August 2023 for true GFE, so why to pay more expensive for lower quality? Not my culture, when I got most of prettiest I did target. Around Bern. Ch, Alina. Ro is prettier face and teeth and smile than Natalia and Katalea, and despite on elbows, because she asked many times, when I lost my package at Freubad. Ch on August 2023 , I went and after her orgasmus when she did thank me so much, turning so girlfriend, I didn't regret my money like I did wiith Natalia and last rooms with Katalea, because I experienced a little Romanian behavior at start can turn to real girlfriend if you are able to change her and far higher GFE level than Natalia and Katalea. Good experience, no regret like at Freubad, but I won't return, when she asked for next time? When I need images to make me dream.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2886476]So, she is the one I was remembering, even no room with her, when not attractive face for a Caucasian like me, but I agree for natural body with beautiful naturals and I Qdon't remember tattoes.[/QUOTE]I was with her every day in my one week tour at Sharks, I was with another girls as well but not as sexy and active in bed like her, sexy slow moves, then she can become a machine if you like) beautiful pussy, very good bjjj and also she is not rushing you like many girls that always remember you the time, so guys. Try Felin one time you won't regret) I can't wait for her to come back.

Ok so the night after Berlin / Artemis I arrive in Darmstadt and plan to go to Sharks even though I am tired and it's kind of late already. I grab some food and then dial up an uber. Or I thought I was going to anyways. In Berlin it worked but it kept acting like it would work in Darmstadt and then it would say they couldn't find a driver so I said F it and got in the car even though I didn't want to drive. I pull in to the place I've only read about before. The holy grail of FKKs that is sharks. I go in and pay my entry fee and get my robe and everything and walk in. I'm super impressed by the size of the club. Guy / girl ratio is pretty even I'the say and the girls aren't super aggressive but more so than Artemis they at least try and chat some if you lock eyes at all. Seems like it's a good balance. I brush off a couple different ones wanting to show me the club and tell them I'the just like just look some on my own and about my 3rd pass around I am walking and this duo and I cross paths and they are kind of in my way and we both fake side to side like trying to get out of each others way and they grab me and we chat a bit. They are both cute. One is hotter than the other but the less hot one has some nice fake tits and overall still cute and good body. They talk about going to a couch and chatting first or say should we just go right to a room. I'm like fuck it lets go to a room for an hour. They try and upsell some things and I say I just want sex and no condom BJ and CIM so we agree on the price and walk in and I adjust the lights and really like the room / bed. Mirrors on both sides / headboard / above. So we start taking off what little clothes they had on and fondling and kissing and they direct me to the bed where they start a great BBBJ with good technique and amazing visuals between them and the mirrors. So we cover up and first one gets on cowgirl and rides awhile and then we switch it to doggie which is epic with mirrors everywhere. Now it's time to fuck the other so condom change and wipe down the dick. I have her get on top and ride and then we go to mish then doggie (the whole time the other is either kissing me, sucking my nipples straddling me or playing with herself right in front of me and it's all super hot). Off comes the condom and they take turns blowing me and the smaller one lays on my chest and I pull her ass / pussy right next to my face and start kissing it looking in the mirror and it's a great thing to see while getting sucked from the other girl who I can see in the mirror. They both are down there and playing with my balls while they suck me and I finally tell them I'm about to cum and they both take some in their mouths. Super fucking hot. It was a one pop night for me and it was late after a full day of travel so I didn't stick around much I just bounced but got one of their numbers as she wanted me to come back the next day. I was impressed with the layout of sharks. Chicks wise I didn't get to look a ton as I got scooped up by the duo pretty quick. Not a ton numbers wise but way easy to find a pretty hot girl to fuck in less than 5 min if you want. It was late on a weeknight I assume is why not just overwhelmed with the numbers and I've read beginning to middle of Jan. Is slower anyways. Still a great experience and a fun time with a duo.

Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2886729]Ok so the night after Berlin / Artemis I arrive in Darmstadt and plan to go to Sharks even though I am tired and it's kind of late already. I grab some food and then dial up an uber. Or I thought I was going to anyways. In Berlin it worked but it kept acting like it would work in Darmstadt and then it would say they couldn't find a driver so I said F it and got in the car even though I didn't want to drive. I pull in to the place I've only read about before. The holy grail of FKKs that is sharks. I go in and pay my entry fee and get my robe and everything and walk in. I'm super impressed by the size of the club. Guy / girl ratio is pretty even I'the say and the girls aren't super aggressive but more so than Artemis they at least try and chat some if you lock eyes at all. Seems like it's a good balance. I brush off a couple different ones wanting to show me the club and tell them I'the just like just look some on my own and about my 3rd pass around I am walking and this duo and I cross paths and they are kind of in my way and we both fake side to side like trying to get out of each others way and they grab me and we chat a bit. They are both cute. One is hotter than the other but the less hot one has some nice fake tits and overall still cute and good body. They talk about going to a couch and chatting first or say should we just go right to a room. I'm like fuck it lets go to a room for an hour. They try and upsell some things and I say I just want sex and no condom BJ and CIM so we agree on the price and walk in and I adjust the lights and really like the room / bed. Mirrors on both sides / headboard / above. So we start taking off what little clothes they had on and fondling and kissing and they direct me to the bed where they start a great BBBJ with good technique and amazing visuals between them and the mirrors.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!

Can you describe the looks of the duo girls?

Blondes? Brunettes? Length? Boob size?

Names?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2886939]Thanks for the report!

Can you describe the looks of the duo girls?

Blondes? Brunettes? Length? Boob size?

Names?[/QUOTE]Both dark hair. Ivana has fake tits, lots of tats, prob the cup and is taller and Vanessa is the prettier of the two and smaller natural boobs. Ivana a little darker complexion too. I'd guess Ivana at 5'8 and vanessa at 5'5.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2886937]Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.[/QUOTE]Problem now at Sharks is more expensive for lower quality, when fall for looks. Funny is highest levels are not the most expensive when I paid 150/80 on last August and she was so far higher level in bed and for fresh true GFE than Maxima for 200/60 . One with who I feel she likes with me, like with my Russian, or my squirting German escort who ask me so much when I will return, in NRW.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2886937]Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.[/QUOTE]I have never paid more than 50 for 30 or 100 for 60 at FKKs and don't think I want to spend more. I can find women just as hot in Latin America or Asia.

Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2887188]I have never paid more than 50 for 30 or 100 for 60 at FKKs and don't think I want to spend more. I can find women just as hot in Latin America or Asia.[/QUOTE]I don't think any of the clubs I went in they would do anything for 50. I forget which ones said but 2 of the clubs said the minimum for girls. I think Artemis said maybe 70? Maybe 90. Then OASE said min was 50.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2887257]I don't think any of the clubs I went in they would do anything for 50. I forget which ones said but 2 of the clubs said the minimum for girls. I think Artemis said maybe 70? Maybe 90. Then OASE said min was 50.[/QUOTE]Oase desk tell basic is for 50/30 , but not reality.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2887227]Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.[/QUOTE]Sounds like mental gymnastics for the guys who gave up the 200 e per hour ask. If a theory takes that many conditions to connect, it's probably been over complicated. Gymnastics.

I do my 1 hour rooms but appreciate the 30 minute try outs too. But many guys don't even want more than a 25 minute quick pop. The 30 minute room has always been the cornerstone of the FKK style. It still is. It has a plurality if not a majority of room times. And who's to say there's a wrong way to fuck hookers? Calling them stingy for seeing that it's a bad deal to pay 150 e when all they need or even want is to get a nut out with a brothel hooker. So many just decided to only pay for what they want, not because they're stingy, but because they have no desire to spend 1 hour with a hooker.

It's like telling someone to pay $150 for 2 hotel nights when you just need one night. Who cares if the second night is a better deal when you don't need or want it.

The 100/30 and 150/ HR point was the final acceptable compromise. The 200 e per hour guys, those are the ones who pushed it to the final breaking point.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2887227]Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.[/QUOTE]You know so few: 100/30 and 150/60 became after covid lockdown when Germans and locals paid this. Nevertheless, in 2021 with only very few tourists and Asians, could still find some high level girls for still 100/60 and I had many and with my best 2021 Sharks girl and I also gave her 150/80 on August 2023 for a great room with great sex, not a small pussy but a woman. But why to pay more expensive for lower quality where most Sharks girls fell, when now higher quality elsewhere in Germany.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2887227]Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.[/QUOTE]Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2887554]Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.[/QUOTE]There were plenty of girls who would charge extra for things like kissing, DATY, rimming (and whatever else you can imagine) well [B]before[/B] the 2017 law. You negotiated for what you wanted YMMV. The thing about post 2017 law change is that a 50 euros upcharge for a BBBJ became damn near universal! That's the unique thing around BJs. Pretty much every FKK tute in Germany now tacks on 50 euros extra for providing a BBBJ. And then depending on the girl, they went on continuing to do things they were doing pre-2017, like up charging for kissing, etc. Charging extra for a BBBJ may be only an FKK thing. I don't know. I mean I don't recall reading a lot of reports of RLD tutes doing that. And what about pricing for independent escorts? I wonder if there was a pricing impact from the 2017 law on that part of the business too? Don't know as I don't like going the escort route, but it's interesting to think about.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2887554]Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.[/QUOTE]The last time I was in Germany was from January to March, 2020 and 50/30 and 100/60 was the norm. I paid no more than that and I went with many girls including the hottest ones.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2887662]The last time I was in Germany was from January to March, 2020 and 50/30 and 100/60 was the norm. I paid no more than that and I went with many girls including the hottest ones.[/QUOTE]50/30 with BBBJ?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2887662]The last time I was in Germany was from January to March, 2020 and 50/30 and 100/60 was the norm. I paid no more than that and I went with many girls including the hottest ones.[/QUOTE]I confirm, til March 2020 , including FK, DATY and BBBJ, for most Sharks girls, except Melissa who also worked at Palace on 2019 . When law played on 1 July 2017,0 upselling at Sharks for BBBJ when they wish for CIM for extra and saving vagina, til March 2020 , but increasing under covid for business in hotels or appartments. On 2021 , could still find 100/60 with full GFE at Sharks, had more than 10 rooms. Yesterday at Oase, 100/40+ and she was really not rushing to leave the room, I think my way and behavior relaxed her, when she would be one of the prettiest at Sharks and Globe, my eyes preferring Oase casting.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2887649]There were plenty of girls who would charge extra for things like kissing, DATY, rimming (and whatever else you can imagine) well [B]before[/B] the 2017 law. You negotiated for what you wanted YMMV. The thing about post 2017 law change is that a 50 euros upcharge for a BBBJ became damn near universal! That's the unique thing around BJs. Pretty much every FKK tute in Germany now tacks on 50 euros extra for providing a BBBJ. And then depending on the girl, they went on continuing to do things they were doing pre-2017, like up charging for kissing, etc. Charging extra for a BBBJ may be only an FKK thing. I don't know. I mean I don't recall reading a lot of reports of RLD tutes doing that. And what about pricing for independent escorts? I wonder if there was a pricing impact from the 2017 law on that part of the business too? Don't know as I don't like going the escort route, but it's interesting to think about.[/QUOTE]Once again, or they really must love to swallow my seminal, no Sharks and same in other German clubs never charged me extra 50 after 1 July 2017 , when I had to explain new law to some girls, explaining customer would be guilty, not the girl. Still BBBJ and even AO despite law. Law only worked for registration, Mio. De leaving German business and my beloved Daria. Ro leaving business. Not EU or not living in Germany since 5 years can t register. Reason why no fresh Ukrainian nor Russian nor even Moldavia from Republic. Few exceptions about war in Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2887554]Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.[/QUOTE]You know nothing at all about FKK.

Stay with your romance novels writing about fat woman at Scandallo Brazil and Seeking arrangements.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2887554]This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.[/QUOTE]Sorry Steve, you lack some experience. Hehe.

I have been around since early 00's. Before the time of Sharks and Mainhattan. But after the closedown of the legendary Atlantis (hey, I am not that old!). The first time I experienced upselling (for GF-package of BBBJ / DATY / DFK) and 100 E /30 was around 2007. At Palace. During exhibitions with huge crowds. Upselling is nothing new.

The problem was easy to solve. ISG worked perfectly then with warnings from experienced mongers. Oase and World were still solid (better) upselling-free alternatives with hotter girls. The regulars to FKK clubs moved to these two clubs and left Palace to the "tourists".

Around 5 years later the upselling "disease" had spread to Oase and new clubs Mainhattan and Sharks. But only among a minority of girls who could easily be replaced by better options. ISG still functioned perfectly with warnings about who the upsellers were and constant reminders that BBBJ/DFK/DATY are NOT extras. Some "tourists" would never listen and paid an overprice. Usually the ones with few visits and plenty of money, or the ignorant/weak ones with lack of self confidence. Either way, the "two price system" that we see today has in fact been around for at least 10- 15 years.

Then the 2017 law. Two things happened:

1.

More girls (but far from all) took advantage and started upselling.

2.

The "Kondomplicht" made it complicated to talk about BBBJ. The more experienced mongers stopped reporting or moved to local forums leaving ISG to the "tourists" who were willing to accept upselling.

We can endlessly debate whether the going rate for a GFE session with the hottest girls changed from 100 E /60 to 150/60 in 2017,2018, 2019,2020, 2021 or 2022. The truth is that for some it already started around 2012 (or perhaps 2007 if you are a Palace fanboy). Personally the struggle started around ten years after (post covid).

I still (2023) got hot/great looking regulars at the Hessen FKK clubs providing amazing 100 E /60 sessions. But they are few. And I read on ISG a couple of years ago that one of them charged 150/60 with reduced performance. That is just so funny. I am curious to know if they charge some guys 200 E /60 or 250E/60 now, but I have not dared to ask. LOL!

Sorry about another boring price discussion. Everyone have their own experience. The only thing that is important is to spread the awareness of a two price system. And it varies from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and from day to day. How we deal with that is up to each and every one.

- S16.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2887871]Personally the struggle started around ten years after (post covid).[/QUOTE]I apologize for my horrible English. What I meant was that I started struggling with finding good 100 E /60 sessions with new girls from around 2021 or 2022. Thus, accordring to my my own experiences, the going rate changed to 150 E /60 during this period.

I am still (2023) not paying 200 E /60 as I find girls with those quotes easily replaceable. But to each their own. And of course, I still don't know what 2024 will bring.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2887903]I apologize for my horrible English. What I meant was that I started struggling with finding good 100 E /60 sessions with new girls from around 2021 or 2022. Thus, accordring to my my own experiences, the going rate changed to 150 E /60 during this period.

I am still (2023) not paying 200 E /60 as I find girls with those quotes easily replaceable. But to each their own. And of course, I still don't know what 2024 will bring.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Shark16;2887871]Sorry Steve, you lack some experience. Hehe.

I have been around since early 00's. Before the time of Sharks and Mainhattan. But after the closedown of the legendary Atlantis (hey, I am not that old!). The first time I experienced upselling (for GF-package of BBBJ / DATY / DFK) and 100 E /30 was around 2007. At Palace. During exhibitions with huge crowds. Upselling is nothing new.

The problem was easy to solve. ISG worked perfectly then with warnings from experienced mongers. Oase and World were still solid (better) upselling-free alternatives with hotter girls. The regulars to FKK clubs moved to these two clubs and left Palace to the "tourists".

Around 5 years later the upselling "disease" had spread to Oase and new clubs Mainhattan and Sharks. But only among a minority of girls who could easily be replaced by better options. ISG still functioned perfectly with warnings about who the upsellers were and constant reminders that BBBJ/DFK/DATY are NOT extras. Some "tourists" would never listen and paid an overprice. Usually the ones with few visits and plenty of money, or the ignorant/weak ones with lack of self confidence. Either way, the "two price system" that we see today has in fact been around for at least 10- 15 years.

Then the 2017 law. Two things happened:

1.

More girls (but far from all) took advantage and started upselling.

2.

The "Kondomplicht" made it complicated to talk about BBBJ. The more experienced mongers stopped reporting or moved to local forums leaving ISG to the "tourists" who were willing to accept upselling..[/QUOTE]The bottom line is that upcharging has been a part of the FKK scene in Germany for a long, long time. Like a couple of decades at least? Prior to 2017 and the condom law there were two standard, "official" upcharges: 50 euros for CIM and 100 euros for anal (50 in the NRW). I always did have the most expensive tastes LOL! But then you would find girls trying to impose "unofficial" upcharges for all sorts of other things. Some guys found it worth it to pay for those extras while others did not. For example, I have never paid extra for kissing and never will. I don't value it that much while others do. And so on and so forth regarding other types of upcharges. What 2017 served to do is usher in a new, standard but still unofficial upcharge: 50 euros extra for a BBBJ.

The problem for mongers is that this particular unofficial upcharge is more far reaching and impactful than other unsanctioned upcharges because it's the result of a law that applies to everybody, and not the result of an individual girl's particular preferences or whims. So now pretty much all of the girls feel they have leverage to demand 50 euros more for providing this now illegal service (BBBJs), and as a result, the financial dynamics of the business have been altered, with some mongers even being priced out. And to make matters worse, some tutes are "pushing the envelope" trying to charge 200+ euros for an hour without really adding anything additional to the package! Hell, I'm willing to pay 300+ per hour, but I better be getting value for my money. For that kind of money I better be getting a BBBJ, CIM, vaginal sex, and anal sex. No? Then she can gets to stepping right out of my face!

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2887852]You know nothing at all about FKK.

Stay with your romance novels writing about fat woman at Scandallo Brazil and Seeking arrangements.[/QUOTE]I've seen a lot of the chicks he's banged and I can maybe count on 1 hand the thick ones. 🤣 Dude is a legend not sure why the hate. He's literally done it all and is the most experienced monger I know.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2887257]I don't think any of the clubs I went in they would do anything for 50. I forget which ones said but 2 of the clubs said the minimum for girls. I think Artemis said maybe 70? Maybe 90. Then OASE said min was 50.[/QUOTE]Some WGs still do 50 for 30. They're not easy to find, and they won't be the best looking, but they do exist.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2887909]But then you would find girls trying to impose "unofficial" upcharges for all sorts of other things. Some guys found it worth it to pay for those extras while others did not. For example, I have never paid extra for kissing and never will. I don't value it that much while others do. And so on and so forth regarding other types of upcharges. [/QUOTE]That's right. If you show weakness, some girls will try to upcharge for anything, like:

- BLS
- DFK.
- DATY.
- Massage.
- COB.
- COT.

- FIP.
- FIA.
- Rimming.

NONE of the above did qualify for an extra back in the day. And the decent providers STILL do not quote extras for these "services". Of course, the three bottom services are not standard services and you risk a "no" that must be respected (or the use of condom in the case of FIP/FIA). The first six a large majority of girls will consider included in the base price of 100E/30 or 150E/60. Most of the time without saying. But you may want to check 1- 2 of them with the girl if this is crucial to you (typically a DFK fundamentalist need to check this service with the girl before the session).

That is from a Hessen perspective of course. Those who visit Hamburg / Bavira will know that many of these "services" have been extra for more than 20 years. They have a totally different tradition.

My very first experience of upselling was at Palace which was notorious for upselling long before Sharks ever existed. Back then there was no upselling at Oase. Then years after came Sharks with 50/30 and 100/60 constant with BBBJ. After 2017 a few girls tried upselling for BBBJ and I avoided them without any lessening of my experience at that club up until my last visit in 2020. I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2888003]I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.[/QUOTE]I have never been upsold for DATY in Hessen, but I got a "no" once. It happened to me years ago. She did me a favour (herpes outbreak). She probably should not have worked that day, and I quickly ended the session.

At times you can read reports about guys paying for DATY. That's pretty lame.

(In Austria it is not uncommon that girls will try to upsell a DATY/kissing/GF package. At Wellcum/GT Linz for 20- 30E. At GT Vienna/Mystic for 50- 150E extra! Just say no to these proposals.).

(GT Vienna is probably the worst club I have ever visited with regard to upsell. It's an upsell hell!! Here is a true story: I am receiving a BBBJ from a girl. I ask for 69. She puts herself in position. I am locked in under her killer ass. I am totally turned on. I was about to lick her privates when she says: DATY is 50 extra. And I am locked in there under her delicous pussy lips doing everything I can to avoid her warm lips. But I am so excited. And I can't move. Then she says: "Come in my mouth. It's only 100E extra.". LOL!!!)

[QUOTE=Shark16;2888007]At times you can read reports about guys paying for DATY. That's pretty lame.[/QUOTE]I have never paid extra for things like DATY, kissing, or a massage (I like massages and typically can get one in as part of the base deal). On the other hand, I have routinely paid the upcharge for CIM and anal sex. Then when the upcharging started for BBBJs I paid that too. As a tourist monger I didn't have a lot of room to negotiate. And I admit that [B]one time[/B] I paid extra (like maybe an extra 50) to eat out a Ruskie girl's ass! It was in Zurich, and I just had to get me some of that hot "blondinka's" tight little forbidden "pope-ka"! She wouldn't do anal, but I could be her little American butt munch if I wanted. So if I couldn't cornhole her, then my other option was my face buried between her attractive Slav girl ass cheeks, with my tongue tickling her butt hole! For a small fee. It may have been lame, but what was an "anal connoisseur" to do pray tell (shrugs)? I [B]had[/B] to have me some of that [B]pretty[/B], blonde, Slav girl anus! If even just a taste. Hahaha!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2888003]My very first experience of upselling was at Palace which was notorious for upselling long before Sharks ever existed. Back then there was no upselling at Oase. Then years after came Sharks with 50/30 and 100/60 constant with BBBJ. After 2017 a few girls tried upselling for BBBJ and I avoided them without any lessening of my experience at that club up until my last visit in 2020. I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.[/QUOTE]More than CIM, or anal but how many are able for more than asian size deep inside for more than 30 seconds, when porn actresses are prepared not to feel, now common extra asked is for what they sell as GFE, like in kindergarden level. For many now, 100/30 and 200/60 is for basic BBBJ, DATY, fucking mostly small pussies, like if they never got a real size inside and few baby kiss at best and 50 extra for GFE for babies, when some real GFE are for 150/60 , not asking extra and not rushing You if they like with You, I got 150/80 on August when she has best GFE skill for me at Sharks since 2021 , out of German white snow on May / June. Small Simona with quite average face even asking 300/60 for little Romanian GFE and some schoolgirls fans pay such rate. The shortest and lowest levels are now the most expensive at Sharks, when can still find some of best for 150/60 or even longer if they like with You, when I refuse to pay more expensive for lower quality, reason why Sharks is lower value for money than Oase now and Globe is down, not worthing 150/30 when You know a bit FKK land.

It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2888204]It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.[/QUOTE]Most expensive are not on the highest level, but do you get Maxima, or Kity, or Katalea, or Sofi. De, for 150/60 . I never repeated with Sofi, only because of 200/60 , when 3 others never worth 200/60 . I don't like to pay more expensive than I estimate.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2888204]It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.[/QUOTE]A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2888392]A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.[/QUOTE]Interesting thought. I will counter that by asking:

1. Are there enough wealthy guys?
2. Are there really so few hot girls?

Debate on!

Some will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal. Others will pay 150E/60 (often with the same girls and same performance) and be happy with that.

(We can debate this endlessly and still not agree. Will someone soon say we are beating a dead horse?).

[QUOTE=Shark16;2888397]ISome will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal.[/QUOTE]I will gladly pay 300 E /60, not because I think I'm getting something exclusive, but because I got good value for that money. That would be 1 hour of sex with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Plus a massage thrown in for free if I can get it (most girls will oblige).

[QUOTE=Shark16;2888397]
Some will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal. Others will pay 150E/60 (often with the same girls and same performance) and be happy with that.
).[/QUOTE]Wealthy guys do spend more money but doesn't mean they have to pay 300/ hour or even 200/ hour rate.

In the past year, I chatted a few rich customers whom I met in Sharks and got to know something about their spending habits.

Case 1: a Canadian attorney (he claimed). I recommended girl M to him. He then spent whole time from 4 pm to midnight with the girl only. Later on he disclosed that he gave girl-M 1000 euros PLUS the entrance fee (125 e). Average 140/ hour.

Case 2: a local IT professional, three hours with girl Ki and paid her 500 euros plus extra. Three hours with girl-Ca 500 total, as he told me.

Case 3: a London banker, booked girl K whole Monday with 1000 plus entrance.

Case 4: a Singapore VC, booked girl Ce from 2 pm to 10 pm with 1000 euros.

For privacy I don't need to disclose above girls names but they are hot.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2888392]A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, many guys, Germans, locals, tourists, foreigners, French, pay 100/30 and even 200/60 with no real FK with average girls. Since February 2023 , I didn't see any worthing 200/60 at Sharks, I paid many rooms 200 but for close to 1 h30 and with a rare and fresh GFE German on May and June.

Does anyone know if Maria and Kitty are back from vacation?

[QUOTE=Shark16;2888000]That's right. If you show weakness, some girls will try to upcharge for anything, like:

- BLS
- DFK.
- DATY.
- Massage.
- COB.
- COT.

- FIP.
- FIA.
- Rimming.

NONE of the above did qualify for an extra back in the day. And the decent providers STILL do not quote extras for these "services". Of course, the three bottom services are not standard services and you risk a "no" that must be respected (or the use of condom in the case of FIP/FIA). The first six a large majority of girls will consider included in the base price of 100E/30 or 150E/60. Most of the time without saying. But you may want to check 1- 2 of them with the girl if this is crucial to you (typically a DFK fundamentalist need to check this service with the girl before the session).

That is from a Hessen perspective of course. Those who visit Hamburg / Bavira will know that many of these "services" have been extra for more than 20 years. They have a totally different tradition.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.

[QUOTE=David1266;2888517]In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.[/QUOTE]Girls who ask extra for FK, won t give You long sensual FK. Those who will give You are those who don t speak about money and who are happy You and what You are choose them. Real GFE girls don t speak about money. FK are not Romanian baby kiss.

[QUOTE=David1266;2888517]In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.[/QUOTE]True. I have the same experience. That's why I go with those who don't start that with that upsell. And they can be just as hot and perform just as excellent.

At HappyTour,

Yes, the girls often give favours / discounts for longer sessions. There is a long tradition for it. Except for prime time certain Friday / Saturday nights perhaps I do not see that those guys "occupy all the hot girls" as Turgid claims. That's just a theoretical mind game IMO. Life at a FKK club is full of opportunities. Even on most Friday / Saturday nights.

Dear colleagues,

I often visit the Shark and I promise to send you review in the next days.

I will stay there next weekend (Friday. Sunday).

I typically meet America, Karol, Brenda, Adnana and other girls whose name now I am not able to remember.

All these are perfect for me and 100430 kiss (deep) and BBJ included.

What I cannot understand in these pages is why there are these so long and boring discussions on the general behaviour of the girls and many other considerations.

I, honestly, would prefer to read this forum to see comments on the behaviour and performances of specific girls: name, description, attitude, etc etc.

It is OK to make sometimes general consideration but now we are with tens of pages of completely not useful information.

We know: now prices are 100/30 and if you are expert you can get satisfactions: this Forum should help us to avoid errors on the girls chose, indeed.

I will report soon, Best.

May I ask to the Administrator to reserve for Shark a topic on the girls descriptions / advises while leaving general discussion of the club philosophy in another place?

[QUOTE=David1266;2888516]Does anyone know if Maria and Kitty are back from vacation?[/QUOTE]Kitty is always in club. Too much makeup. Botox lip makes her looks like Esther (2015 sharks star if you don't know her).

Maria comes irregularly as before.

I now like Stacy (21 yo Mol) more than any other girls at Sharks.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2888856]Kitty is always in club. Too much makeup. Botox lip makes her looks like Esther (2015 sharks star if you don't know her).

Maria comes irregularly as before.

I now like Stacy (21 yo Mol) more than any other girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]You are bored so fast of Katalea massaging your neck for 200/60.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2888856]Kitty is always in club. Too much makeup. Botox lip makes her looks like Esther (2015 sharks star if you don't know her).

Maria comes irregularly as before.

I now like Stacy (21 yo Mol) more than any other girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much HappyTour. I am surprised by that kitty doesn't retire when she can't make much money anymore and she must have saved tons of money by now. Can you tell me approx location of Stacey? I want to try her.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2888718]Dear colleagues,

I often visit the Shark and I promise to send you review in the next days.

I will stay there next weekend (Friday. Sunday).

I typically meet America, Karol, Brenda, Adnana and other girls whose name now I am not able to remember.

All these are perfect for me and 100430 kiss (deep) and BBJ included.

What I cannot understand in these pages is why there are these so long and boring discussions on the general behaviour of the girls and many other considerations.

I, honestly, would prefer to read this forum to see comments on the behaviour and performances of specific girls: name, description, attitude, etc etc.

It is OK to make sometimes general consideration but now we are with tens of pages of completely not useful information.

We know: now prices are 100/30 and if you are expert you can get satisfactions: this Forum should help us to avoid errors on the girls chose, indeed.

I will report soon, Best.

May I ask to the Administrator to reserve for Shark a topic on the girls descriptions / advises while leaving general discussion of the club philosophy in another place?[/QUOTE]I agree. Admin should make "FKK girl price rant" thread. I am sick of reading the same "too expensive" argument over and over again. I am personaly more interested in the overall latest line up of girls than the detailed sex act of a particular girl.

[QUOTE=David1266;2888920]Thanks very much HappyTour. I am surprised by that kitty doesn't retire when she can't make much money anymore and she must have saved tons of money by now. Can you tell me approx location of Stacey? I want to try her.[/QUOTE]You want to try a girl without seeing her? I try only girls who attract my eyes and she never did. I find normal main topic here is too expensive rates for real value, when unfortunately no wow girl at Sharks since last Summer and bad value for money for too many girls. Oase is better value for money for me and GG is far higher level for few girls, when I'm not able to fuck 80 average looks asking 200/60 with no real sensual FK. Pity when Sharks is good for club, but many German regulars go elsewhere now, even few pay crazy rates for little girls they seem to miss since they were at school.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2888247]Most expensive are not on the highest level, but do you get Maxima, or Kity, or Katalea, or Sofi. De, for 150/60 . I never repeated with Sofi, only because of 200/60 , when 3 others never worth 200/60 . I don't like to pay more expensive than I estimate.[/QUOTE]I get them for 150/60 yes, at least two of them, the other two I have not tried yet.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2889015]I get them for 150/60 yes, at least two of them, the other two I have not tried yet.[/QUOTE]I prefer no sex than begging or playing Arabic market grocer. Killing desire for me. My best regulars never spoke about money, or asking: is it Ok for You? Upselling land is not for me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2888968]You want to try a girl without seeing her? I try only girls who attract my eyes and she never did. I find normal main topic here is too expensive rates for real value, when unfortunately no wow girl at Sharks since last Summer and bad value for money for too many girls. Oase is better value for money for me and GG is far higher level for few girls, when I'm not able to fuck 80 average looks asking 200/60 with no real sensual FK. Pity when Sharks is good for club, but many German regulars go elsewhere now, even few pay crazy rates for little girls they seem to miss since they were at school.[/QUOTE]No, "Try" means that, first I look at her, talk to her, and make a decision. I already know that Happytour's taste is similar to mine, so I want to try if he recommends. The reason why I ask for location is that, popular girl is taken by other customers quickly, and I have to wait for her to come back for 30 min-60 min. It's difficult to find her unless I know the location.

[QUOTE=David1266;2888920]Thanks very much HappyTour. I am surprised by that kitty doesn't retire when she can't make much money anymore and she must have saved tons of money by now. Can you tell me approx location of Stacey? I want to try her.[/QUOTE]Stacy usually sits at the bar in front of the waterfalls near the German corner, about 3-4 seats away from Catalea.

Stacy can speak fluent English. A little bit baby fat on face but very attractive. She Used to have very fair skin but now tanned. No noticeable tattoos. She was mad at me when I told her I liked her white skin and asked her to stop Solarium. LOL.

Very moody. But for unknown reasons, I still like her and enjoy the session with her. She seems like a college sugar baby coming from Moscow.

So far we have eight rooms together.

She might quit. I have heard three times she claimed since last June. But She still appears here sporadically.

However, be cautious, Stacy hasn't obtained Sirioja official endorsement.

She might be too expensive for Sirioja. 100/30 or 200/60.

[QUOTE=David1266;2889136]No, "Try" means that, first I look at her, talk to her, and make a decision. I already know that Happytour's taste is similar to mine, so I want to try if he recommends. The reason why I ask for location is that, popular girl is taken by other customers quickly, and I have to wait for her to come back for 30 min-60 min. It's difficult to find her unless I know the location.[/QUOTE]My tip is don’t be a follower, but choose by yourself. Like at work, You should get better satisfaction from your own good work. My scanner never detected her who should be from around Iasie or Galati. Ro, when Republic of Moldavia not belonging to EU can t get registration to be allowed to work.

I find it strange when girls say they are from Moldava but people don't accept this answer because they probably have Romanian citizenship.

You don't hear the same protest if we refer to some clients as Turkish but they are really German citizens.

Girls who are from Northeastern Romania are often historically Moldavian before the region became part of the Romanian nation. If they want to claim Moldavian and they look the part, then realistically they may actually be Moldavian for all reasons other than citizenship.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2889242]I find it strange when girls say they are from Moldava but people don't accept this answer because they probably have Romanian citizenship.

You don't hear the same protest if we refer to some clients as Turkish but they are really German citizens.

Girls who are from Northeastern Romania are often historically Moldavian before the region became part of the Romanian nation. If they want to claim Moldavian and they look the part, then realistically they may actually be Moldavian for all reasons other than citizenship.[/QUOTE]I had 3 who claimed Moldova not in sharks but total. Duo in sharks said Moldova and the 1 I roomed with in Artemis. The trio I did in oase claimed Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Greece.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2889160]Stacy usually sits at the bar in front of the waterfalls near the German corner, about 3-4 seats away from Catalea.

Stacy can speak fluent English. A little bit baby fat on face but very attractive. She Used to have very fair skin but now tanned. No noticeable tattoos. She was mad at me when I told her I liked her white skin and asked her to stop Solarium. LOL.

Very moody. But for unknown reasons, I still like her and enjoy the session with her. She seems like a college sugar baby coming from Moscow.

So far we have eight rooms together.

She might quit. I have heard three times she claimed since last June. But She still appears here sporadically.

However, be cautious, Stacy hasn't obtained Sirioja official endorsement.

She might be too expensive for Sirioja. 100/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]I had many 200/60 rooms with Lora. FR at Sharks and outside, when she was fresh and before fake poneytail, but she can t compete for look. I pay according to look, image and level, but why to pay more expensive, when I have 3 more impressive, a German for 120/60 and Russian and Italian for 150/60 . Most Sharks girls are too expensive for their value, when better value for money elsewhere, pity for Sharks to lose many very regular because of girls asking too expensive for their real value, when You are not just a tourist, but able to compare with other clubs.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2889242]I find it strange when girls say they are from Moldava but people don't accept this answer because they probably have Romanian citizenship.

You don't hear the same protest if we refer to some clients as Turkish but they are really German citizens.

Girls who are from Northeastern Romania are often historically Moldavian before the region became part of the Romanian nation. If they want to claim Moldavian and they look the part, then realistically they may actually be Moldavian for all reasons other than citizenship.[/QUOTE]They may feel Moldavian from roots, but if they had only Chisinau ID, they couldn t get registration, unless they live in Germany since at least 5 years. This is 2017 law, when on the other hand still AO and BBBJ.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2889160]Stacy usually sits at the bar in front of the waterfalls near the German corner, about 3-4 seats away from Catalea.

Stacy can speak fluent English. A little bit baby fat on face but very attractive. She Used to have very fair skin but now tanned. No noticeable tattoos. She was mad at me when I told her I liked her white skin and asked her to stop Solarium. LOL.

Very moody. But for unknown reasons, I still like her and enjoy the session with her. She seems like a college sugar baby coming from Moscow.

So far we have eight rooms together.

She might quit. I have heard three times she claimed since last June. But She still appears here sporadically.

However, be cautious, Stacy hasn't obtained Sirioja official endorsement.

She might be too expensive for Sirioja. 100/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much Happytour for detailed info. That's where Victoria, Joanna, Zaira, Sofia sits, right? I never saw Stacey.

If she appears "sporadically", maybe she has a regular job or go to other clubs and may be difficult to find her. But I will check.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2889242]I find it strange when girls say they are from Moldava but people don't accept this answer because they probably have Romanian citizenship.

You don't hear the same protest if we refer to some clients as Turkish but they are really German citizens.

Girls who are from Northeastern Romania are often historically Moldavian before the region became part of the Romanian nation. If they want to claim Moldavian and they look the part, then realistically they may actually be Moldavian for all reasons other than citizenship.[/QUOTE]I agree. I also found strange that so many men protest passionately that when Nadia of OASE says she is an UKranian because she speaks Moldovan, which is Romanian. One third of population in Moldova have Russian / Ukrainian blood and these people have different appearance (blonde / blue eye) than most Romanians (blown / dark hair, brown eye). Calling her a Ukrainian is same as callilng Turkish German Turkish, in my opinion, and I have no problem with that.

[QUOTE=David1266;2889371]I agree. I also found strange that so many men protest passionately that when Nadia of OASE says she is an UKranian because she speaks Moldovan, which is Romanian. One third of population in Moldova have Russian / Ukrainian blood and these people have different appearance (blonde / blue eye) than most Romanians (blown / dark hair, brown eye). Calling her a Ukrainian is same as callilng Turkish German Turkish, in my opinion, and I have no problem with that.[/QUOTE]Did You ever meet a real Ukrainian not able to speak Russian? Even when born after the wall, to listen to Roger Waters Pink Floyd. Tell this to Maria or Rita at Sharks and they will find You funny. But Nadia Oase speak fluent Romanian. Many Romanians also tell they are Spanish, Italian, French. I tell them they should be proud to be Romanian, usually they smile, most didn t know Ceaucescu shameful time, I remember how he and his wife were shot at the wall fall time.

[QUOTE=David1266;2888921]I agree. Admin should make "FKK girl price rant" thread. I am sick of reading the same "too expensive" argument over and over again. I am personaly more interested in the overall latest line up of girls than the detailed sex act of a particular girl.[/QUOTE]I also have to agree with this viewpoint.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2889396]Did You ever meet a real Ukrainian not able to speak Russian? Even when born after the wall, to listen to Roger Waters Pink Floyd. Tell this to Maria or Rita at Sharks and they will find You funny. But Nadia Oase speak fluent Romanian. Many Romanians also tell they are Spanish, Italian, French. I tell them they should be proud to be Romanian, usually they smile, most didn t know Ceaucescu shameful time, I remember how he and his wife were shot at the wall fall time.[/QUOTE]You ever met a Romanian not able to speak Romanian? Kate from Velbert and GT could not speak Romanian but speaks fluent Italian. Is she Italian but not Romanian? Maybe people from different ethnic backgrounds in different countries are able to claim both because they have culture and qualities from both. Better to let the person decide their own ethnicity than to force your own view onto them.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2889396]Did You ever meet a real Ukrainian not able to speak Russian? Even when born after the wall, to listen to Roger Waters Pink Floyd. Tell this to Maria or Rita at Sharks and they will find You funny. But Nadia Oase speak fluent Romanian. Many Romanians also tell they are Spanish, Italian, French. I tell them they should be proud to be Romanian, usually they smile, most didn t know Ceaucescu shameful time, I remember how he and his wife were shot at the wall fall time.[/QUOTE]Hi Siri. But I know some Italian Americans who always claim "I am Italian" although he can't speak Italian at all. So it's up to a persons philosophy, which is their business.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2889396]Did You ever meet a real Ukrainian not able to speak Russian? Even when born after the wall, to listen to Roger Waters Pink Floyd. Tell this to Maria or Rita at Sharks and they will find You funny. But Nadia Oase speak fluent Romanian. Many Romanians also tell they are Spanish, Italian, French. I tell them they should be proud to be Romanian, usually they smile, most didn t know Ceaucescu shameful time, I remember how he and his wife were shot at the wall fall time.[/QUOTE]Oh so this Rita is Ukrainian too? How does she look? Is she pretty?

[QUOTE=David1266;2889565]Oh so this Rita is Ukrainian too? How does she look? Is she pretty?[/QUOTE]Ukrainians speak Russian, when they are brothers and Putin is crazy dirty. Rita and Maria are friends. Maria is tornado fire in bed, but Rita is told to be a real hurricane. More than 90% Sharks girls are so low level compare to them = 2 women, even Maria is young. For Nadia who already worked at Oase before covid, but impossible with Ukrainian or Moldavian ID since 1 January 2018 .

This is my contribute from the last weekend.

All the girls asked 100430.

I made interview to others asking 150430 and I refused.

This is my last review if the forum attitude will not change: here we should put only girls review and recommendation that will help ourself into find good girls.

I will come back soon.

Ask me in private for more info.

** America.

You can recognise her from her long hair, big and solid breasts and from and from its appearance that resembles South America and the indigenous ethnicity.

America has tattoos that surround her thighs, but nothing flashy and a very solid ass.

She usually stay close to the left toilet door after the bar.

Face: 7.

BBBJ: yes with ball liking.

Kiss: yes but not "deep".

Fuck: very nice, no pressure. I usually put oil on its stunning body.

Pussy liking: no.

Attitude: 7.

Will I repeat? Yes.

** Brenda.

Long air and a beautiful ass. Big natural breasts. Generally located on the bar able, in the side close to the restaurant area.

Face: 8 1/2.

BBBJ: very good, no ball liking.

Kiss: yes, deep.

Pussy liking: yes.

Attitude: 7 1/2.

Will I repeat? Yes.

**Georgina.

Tall, blond girl with firmed slicon tits. Very nice in the behaviour.

Origin: Moldavia.

Face: 9.

BBBJ: good.

Kiss yes but not deep.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: 6 1/2.

Will I repeat? No.

** Laura.

Blond girl always present on the left chairs close to the restaurant area, in the German girls location.

Small tits, blond hairs, you can recognise her from the big tattoos on the back with many skulls.

She is very nice.

Origing: German.

Face: 7 1/2.

BBBJ: very good.

Kiss: no.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: very good, very nice and patient.

Will I repeat? Yes.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2889603]This is my contribute from the last weekend.

All the girls asked 100430.

I made interview to others asking 150430 and I refused.

This is my last review if the forum attitude will not change: here we should put only girls review and recommendation that will help ourself into find good girls.

I will come back soon.

Ask me in private for more info.

** America.

You can recognise her from her long hair, big and solid breasts and from and from its appearance that resembles South America and the indigenous ethnicity.

America has tattoos that surround her thighs, but nothing flashy and a very solid ass.

She usually stay close to the left toilet door after the bar.

Face: 7.

BBBJ: yes with ball liking.

Kiss: yes but not "deep".

Fuck: very nice, no pressure. I usually put oil on its stunning body.

Pussy liking: no.

Attitude: 7.

Will I repeat? Yes.

** Brenda.

Long air and a beautiful ass. Big natural breasts. Generally located on the bar able, in the side close to the restaurant area.

Face: 8 1/2.

BBBJ: very good, no ball liking.

Kiss: yes, deep.

Pussy liking: yes.

Attitude: 7 1/2.

Will I repeat? Yes.

**Georgina.

Tall, blond girl with firmed slicon tits. Very nice in the behaviour.

Origin: Moldavia.

Face: 9.

BBBJ: good.

Kiss yes but not deep.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: 6 1/2.

Will I repeat? No.

** Laura.

Blond girl always present on the left chairs close to the restaurant area, in the German girls location.

Small tits, blond hairs, you can recognise her from the big tattoos on the back with many skulls.

She is very nice.

Origing: German.

Face: 7 1/2.

BBBJ: very good.

Kiss: no.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: very good, very nice and patient.

Will I repeat? Yes.[/QUOTE]Not Laura, but Lara. DE since so long time at Sharks. 100/30 without real kissing or DATY is not good value, when I got elsewhere 2 real GFE 150/60 rooms with prettier on this week end. So GFE, Italia turned angry when I couldn't make her cum, when she wanted, interesting time, even not so relaxing. Making shaking Russian body was more relaxing.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2889603]This is my contribute from the last weekend.

All the girls asked 100430.

I made interview to others asking 150430 and I refused.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the details. Very helpful review.

Laughed really hard at Brenda face = 8. 5.

First / Last review bit also made me chuckle.

Thanks for the lols and the info.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2889603]This is my contribute from the last weekend.

All the girls asked 100430.

I made interview to others asking 150430 and I refused.

This is my last review if the forum attitude will not change: here we should put only girls review and recommendation that will help ourself into find good girls.

I will come back soon.

Ask me in private for more info.

** America.

You can recognise her from her long hair, big and solid breasts and from and from its appearance that resembles South America and the indigenous ethnicity.

America has tattoos that surround her thighs, but nothing flashy and a very solid ass.

She usually stay close to the left toilet door after the bar.

Face: 7.

BBBJ: yes with ball liking.

Kiss: yes but not "deep".

Fuck: very nice, no pressure. I usually put oil on its stunning body.

Pussy liking: no.

Attitude: 7.

Will I repeat? Yes.

** Brenda.

Long air and a beautiful ass. Big natural breasts. Generally located on the bar able, in the side close to the restaurant area.

Face: 8 1/2.

BBBJ: very good, no ball liking.

Kiss: yes, deep.

Pussy liking: yes.

Attitude: 7 1/2.

Will I repeat? Yes.

**Georgina.

Tall, blond girl with firmed slicon tits. Very nice in the behaviour.

Origin: Moldavia.

Face: 9.

BBBJ: good.

Kiss yes but not deep.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: 6 1/2.

Will I repeat? No.

** Laura.

Blond girl always present on the left chairs close to the restaurant area, in the German girls location.

Small tits, blond hairs, you can recognise her from the big tattoos on the back with many skulls.

She is very nice.

Origing: German.

Face: 7 1/2.

BBBJ: very good.

Kiss: no.

Pussy liking: I do not know.

Attitude: very good, very nice and patient.

Will I repeat? Yes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2889603]This is my contribute from the last weekend.

** Laura.

Blond girl always present on the left chairs close to the restaurant area, in the German girls location.

[/QUOTE]I guess it was Lara?

[QUOTE=David1266;2889565]Oh so this Rita is Ukrainian too? How does she look? Is she pretty?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, not pretty enough for my picky eyes, so I didn t try her sexy milky skin and I don t remember tattoes. Pretty face, but not wow body for me for Maria and I didn t rush to repeat, even on twice, real fire in bed, but not highest sensuality for sex. When lack of beauties worthing compare to what they ask, for my eyes, but on this week end at my small high level club, enjoying my 2 woman types for 150/60 with full GFE, but I was thinking I would go with 7 girls there if I saw them at Sharks or Globe, when I often leave the 2 with full balls, not finding any. For sure, I won t pay more expensive for lower quality.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2889861]Laughed really hard at Brenda face = 8. 5.

First / Last review bit also made me chuckle.

Thanks for the lols and the info.[/QUOTE]Tastes and experiences are subjective, why useless to play follower, when so many in this business.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2890068]Tastes and experiences are subjective, why useless to play follower, when so many in this business.[/QUOTE]Half the point of this forum is to get an idea of other people's experiences. "Following" is literally the reason this forum is here. The need to feel special is better left at the door, especially when comparing thoughts on shared pussy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2889924]Unfortunately, not pretty enough for my picky eyes, so I didn t try her sexy milky skin and I don t remember tattoes. Pretty face, but not wow body for me for Maria and I didn t rush to repeat, even on twice, real fire in bed, but not highest sensuality for sex. When lack of beauties worthing compare to what they ask, for my eyes, but on this week end at my small high level club, enjoying my 2 woman types for 150/60 with full GFE, but I was thinking I would go with 7 girls there if I saw them at Sharks or Globe, when I often leave the 2 with full balls, not finding any. For sure, I won t pay more expensive for lower quality.[/QUOTE]THanks Siri. I remember you also liked another Ukranian girl Lana of Mainhattan. By any chance, did you see her in any FKK club lately? I heard that she is gone 1 year ago.

[QUOTE=David1266;2890374]THanks Siri. I remember you also liked another Ukranian girl Lana of Mainhattan. By any chance, did you see her in any FKK club lately? I heard that she is gone 1 year ago.[/QUOTE]I believe she is still at Mainhatten. I talked to a brunette at Mainhatten last week. I think her name was Lana, she said she was Polish.

I'd say she was average in looks and body type.

[QUOTE=David1266;2890374]THanks Siri. I remember you also liked another Ukranian girl Lana of Mainhattan. By any chance, did you see her in any FKK club lately? I heard that she is gone 1 year ago.[/QUOTE]When they are pretty enough, and Lana was prettier than Maria and Rita, but a small pussy, so I couldn t fuck her to finish, but from my behavior respecting her not to hurt her, she fkissed me so much, when she told not to do when we arrived in room, when I didn t ask her anything when we chat few Russian words, because I wanted to discover surprise with such look, when I know Slavians are usually for my GFE way. Few weeks ago around Bern, little Romanian also turned so in love in bed, fkissing so much, after her orgasm, when she was so surprised and did thank so much to relax her, when I made social with her.

Good point I found is, when I started, I found German girls too robotic, only for technique, but when I find level of Romanians is really falling since 2022 and I won t pay more expensive for lower quality for look and my GFE, but on the other hand, I find German girls more on my GFE way now, when they are not used to, but they seem to appreciate, making free like on May / June at Sharks, even she had such success, with some Germans who wanted to keep her only for them, but she asked me. Same experience on 2022 in deep Rhur, when German superstar asked me to make her squirt when we discovered, trusting me from my behavior with her. As I always told, behavior pay like extra money. On end of 2017 , when I was told about a 1,77 fitness model German escort who became my weekly regular for months for usually 250/150 or 300/180 after she did cum so much on discovery and I didn't need to go to low level RTC after only discovery and no extra asked, when her escort rate was 200/60 . Now when I see a pretty, natural German, I think she should be good to play my GFE for love in bed, only in bed, when I was proposed to visit me to make visiting Paris, no problem for me, but I didn't answer.

Arrived at 7 pm and a ton of cars. Even the taxi driver was a little surprised at how crowded it was. And even noticed the Ferrari that was parked there.

Even though it was super-crowded, Sharks is still my go to place for a first night of a trip in Germany. Lots of selection, even with the huge numbers of customers. I was a little tired after my trip, so I didn't shop around too much and went for easier, less busy girls: Amalya from Romania and Giuliana who said she was half-Italian half-Moldovan. Amalya was a little plain and ended up being kind of passive, but she did give the greatest BBBJ. A very soft, hot, wet mouth. It was really great and would probably just do CIM with her LOL. Giuliana was a lot of fun, lively, she did offer anal several times, but I wasn't in the mood. Maybe next time.

Also had the great sauna and a great massage. These are the reasons why I always come back.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2890223]Half the point of this forum is to get an idea of other people's experiences. "Following" is literally the reason this forum is here. The need to feel special is better left at the door, especially when comparing thoughts on shared pussy.[/QUOTE]Then keep on following, when I prefer to focus to find so rare attractive images giving me motivation to make the job to get their best for my taste. Each one own experience. Long time I didn t find at Sharks or Globe.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2890464]Arrived at 7 pm and a ton of cars. Even the taxi driver was a little surprised at how crowded it was. And even noticed the Ferrari that was parked there.

Even though it was super-crowded, Sharks is still my go to place for a first night of a trip in Germany. Lots of selection, even with the huge numbers of customers. I was a little tired after my trip, so I didn't shop around too much and went for easier, less busy girls: Amalya from Romania and Giuliana who said she was half-Italian half-Moldovan. Amalya was a little plain and ended up being kind of passive, but she did give the greatest BBBJ. A very soft, hot, wet mouth. It was really great and would probably just do CIM with her LOL. Giuliana was a lot of fun, lively, she did offer anal several times, but I wasn't in the mood. Maybe next time.

Also had the great sauna and a great massage. These are the reasons why I always come back.[/QUOTE]Ferrari for Wednesday entry 50.15 saved to put gas, for 30 kms.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2890503]Then keep on following, when I prefer to focus to find so rare attractive images giving me motivation to make the job to get their best for my taste. Each one own experience. Long time I didn't find at Sharks or Globe.[/QUOTE]What someone calls following, most others here call sharing information. Discussion and sharing information is more attractive that stroking personal ego.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2890412]I believe she is still at Mainhatten. I talked to a brunette at Mainhatten last week. I think her name was Lana, she said she was Polish.

I'd say she was average in looks and body type.[/QUOTE]New Lana, when mine on Summer 2022 spoke Russian, normal for Ukrainian, when polish is different.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2890412]I believe she is still at Mainhatten. I talked to a brunette at Mainhatten last week. I think her name was Lana, she said she was Polish.

I'd say she was average in looks and body type.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much BackpackBrian. Probably a different girl using the same name. According to multiple people, Lana was a stunner (I never seen her), prettier than Nadhia of OASE or Maria of SHarks. I'll ask this at Mainhattan thread. Thanks.

[QUOTE=David1266;2890608]Thanks very much BackpackBrian. Probably a different girl using the same name. According to multiple people, Lana was a stunner (I never seen her), prettier than Nadhia of OASE or Maria of SHarks. I'll ask this at Mainhattan thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would say sexier than Maria who has a bit average body, but not than Nadia Oase with make up, but more GFE when You touch deep inside her. Small pussy, but I loved how her behavior changed when she saw my behavior with her. Same like little Romanian around Bern who turned so GFE and fkissing. I saw Nadia without make up, tired when she finished her day, much less glamour, not sure I would sleep with her, when my girlfriends had prettier face.

I have been here and Oase before. My last was frequent visits in 2022.

Tall (165+, prefer 170+), white (Blonde / Brunette), atheltic are my type.

How is the situation now? Worth visiting?

Will be in Germany end of this month. So, trying to gauge how things are. Reports seem to be a decline.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2890551]What someone calls following, most others here call sharing information. Discussion and sharing information is more attractive that stroking personal ego.[/QUOTE]I think I give enough information here, when I learned from my bad experiences when so many jealous. Some pay time in room to speak about me, when I prefer to fuck.

LOL. Yes, it was funny seeing the Ferrari there. I did meet a couple Saudis there, but I didn't ask them if it was theirs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2890504]Ferrari for Wednesday entry 50.15 saved to put gas, for 30 kms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2890858]LOL. Yes, it was funny seeing the Ferrari there. I did meet a couple Saudis there, but I didn't ask them if it was theirs.[/QUOTE]Often big cars, compare to my V8 powered E85 , but my meaning was to visit on 50€ Wednesday to save to pay gas for V12 . At my best club, GG, I also take entry 50 when I don t drink beer, not good to keep a flat belly, nor for breathe, and I pay my great really GFE elegant woman types 150/60 . On last Sunday, Italia was angry when I couldn t make her cum after more than 30 mn DATY, when she wanted her orgasmus to relax her for her day when we started her day, the most difficult to make cum for me.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2889861]Laughed really hard at Brenda face = 8. 5.

First / Last review bit also made me chuckle.

Thanks for the lols and the info.[/QUOTE]I am happy your laugh, really.

Now I wait for a your recent review.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2889830]Not Laura, but Lara. DE since so long time at Sharks. 100/30 without real kissing or DATY is not good value, when I got elsewhere 2 real GFE 150/60 rooms with prettier on this week end. So GFE, Italia turned angry when I couldn't make her cum, when she wanted, interesting time, even not so relaxing. Making shaking Russian body was more relaxing.[/QUOTE]Yes Lara, correct.

You are true: this is not a good value, I will not repeat.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2890919]I am happy your laugh, really.

Now I wait for a your recent review.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Yessir, but wait no more. I hope you find my recent review of a club not named Sharks helpful and inspire feedback from contributors who hope to contain the madness promoted by mongers who feed into the deterioration of the FKK scene by allowing Sharks hustlers to exploit mongers, bless their hearts, who just don't know any better. You may also find similar reviews in the Gold, Venus, and Oase threads. But if you really want it, I'm sure you can find my not so nice review of Sharks from a month or so ago too.

Kind regards.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2890114](On 31.01. 2024)

NRW clubs hardly ever get any reviews.

Penelope's been in my cheap club rotation for quite a while. Just like other clubs of the sort, don't expect Hessen decadence or optical quality but in a line up of 40 or so, there's usually 10 or so girls I find doable. Of those, 2-3 are automatically on my to-do list. Expect most rooms to be optic fuck quality without GFE or deep kiss but at the same time, those same rooms are usually not starfish / deadfish either. Girls just don't really do the "groom your customer for GFE long room" thing. Half the girls, I would never touch. Another 25% are the "last girl at the bar and you'll fuck anything because you're drunk and horny" type.

The good thing is that you don't get all of the touristy upsells because well, there aren't that many tourists visiting the Dortmund area. BBBJ is pretty standard. DATY is hit and miss. And as mentioned, assume no for DFK. Optically, a handful of girls would make the top 10 at Sharks.

Adella is a solid 8, maybe even a 9 for some guys. Perfect silhouette with tiny waste and ideal ass. Her tits are fake but maybe the best fake boobs you can ask for. I tried hard, but couldn't feel the silicone bag. Long hair brunette with pretty face but likely augmented lips. No kissing in short rooms but is likely on the table for longer rooms. She was occupied for at least 5 hours in a long room with a client. I doubt guys spend that much time in a room if FK was not offered...[/QUOTE]

When I give my information, I find it rewarding if other users "follow" and have a good experience. Or even if they heed warnings and avoid bad experiences. "Following" seems to be inherently built in to the purpose of forums meant to disperse information and spark discussions on a particular topic of interest, in this case, good and bad providers / clubs. Unless of course, the purpose of the forum is for readers to not follow advice or ignore previous experiences of other people who share similar hobbies. For example, some monger will give an entire club a great review because he's fixated by one girl. Or say if a monger have a very specific weakness for certain types of women. I mean some mongers will rave about a completely unattractive woman if she is able to blind his eyes by making him special. However, some rare mongers are able to give great advice tailored to specific tastes. I remember an older Colombian guy I met at Oase. He owned his own brothel in Colombia so maybe that was why he was able to accurately recommend 3 girls he figured I would like just after an hour of conversation. I went with 2 of them and he was dead on. On the other hand, I had a terrible experience at Living Room when one monger, who at the time I thought had considerable knowledge about the hobby, recommended a girl who turned out to be my worst room ever at the formerly great Living Room. Somehow the guy recommended a dead fish at a club that was known for GFE and girls catering to customers who took long rooms.

On that note, I miss the days where you could practice good selection at Sharks and have a GFE experience for 50 e or spend 100 e for an hour and experience "get-her-pregnant" style sex. Now 100 e gets you 20 minutes of suck and fuck. 150 e may get you less than an hour of moderate effort and girls ask 200 e for the promise of their 22 year old girl version of a premium experience.

TLDR summary,

1. Following is inherently built into the purpose of these forums.

2. What information and from what source to follow should be considered.

3. Sharks is a tourist trap threatening the entire FKK scene.

4. Perhaps more reviews of Sharks to promote bad shoppers to keep going to Sharks is a good thing as to keep these types of mongers from spilling over to the rest of the scene.

I have been to Sharks 3 times in the last 4 months. Remarkably similar experiences every time. (All 100 4 30) Here are my notes for your consideration:

1. Nico: Sits at the far end of the bar. She was my first. Excellent experience. She is curvy and natural. Smiles and makes sure you have a good time: WIR: Yes.

2. Mina: Sits at the pole to the right as you enter. Small, think, short, and also an excellent experience. No kissing, but she is quite fun to hang out with. WIR: Yes.

3. Bebe: By far the most attractive of anyone I have been with there. But it was only ok. Optic only. WIR: Maybe.

4. Renata: Lips, tattoos, nipple piercings, and a genuinely fun and positive attitude. WIR: Maybe.

5. Brenda: Think, huge naturals. (They hang a little). Very sweet and a good room. WIR: Yes.

6. Katalya: Tall, thin, attractive. Mechanical. Spent all her time checking the condom. WIR: No.

7. "C". A random I met by the aquarium. One of the beat rooms I have had. Nice, service oriented, real, down to earth. WIR: Yes. She asked I do not use your whole name here. She is very attractive, but not quite a stunner like many. I recommend her though.

8. Met Stacy, but she was busy. She looked delicious.

9. Could not find America.

10. Lastly, there was a MILF / GMILF with huge cans by the bar near the restaurant. I wish I had stamnia for a fourth room, as there was something about her I liked.

Thanks to the forum for all the data to help my visits.

Let's not confuse meta-discussion with actual content. More discussion of girls, less discussion about discussion.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2891028]Let's not confuse meta-discussion with actual content. More discussion of girls, less discussion about discussion.[/QUOTE][B]Red Punk-Emo Melissa[/B]

Mid to second half of twenties, former superstar but now looks a bit emaciated, tired even. Breast and butt are still near ideal but have lost their former pop, face more worn. Still a good room and much better deal when considering her asking price is no longer 50% above the others. She was good, but not that good. A- face and former A body but now more of a Be+ or perhaps A- body for my taste. Classy personality by Eastern European hooker standards. Service was A- but maybe A or A+ for guys who like a girl who can carry a conversation. She would probably make a good escort.

[B]Classic Blond Lori[/B], formerly Loredona.

Almost or is 25 yo, probably my favorite Sharks girl at the moment, nothing bad to say about her. All services offered. Offers both put-a-baby-in-me energy sex as well as Pornstar capabilities. She's a Be+ or A- face and an A- body for my facial / body preferences. Longer legs would put her over the top for me. Her torso is a little long for her legs. Maybe even a little more boobage would be nice. To me, she looks better when she has less make up / eyelash. Slightly hardened and a little bit cynical personality is in line with a civilian girl I would date in real life. A+++ service with me and generally overall good reviews from others, particularly from the German guys, probably because she got her start at a tiny local club near by. I have heard that she has had some mediocre rooms with non-regulars but have never heard of anyone saying they had a straight up bad room. Would like to try her older sister, Ginger, who is even prettier but is brunette with bigger boobs. Similar personality that is almost like a chill-AF American girl. It's a pleasure when they make their short tours, a shame that they are not there more often.

[B]Spinner brunette Yvette[/B]

Now approaching 30 yo if not already, is a former regular. She now looks way too coked out, slightly anorexic, but 8 years of somewhat regular service affords me anything I want in the room. Former Be+ optics but now more of a Be- and perhaps even lower on days she's worn out. Personality is pretty great though, very inquisitive, tries to build a connection outside of the room first. Unfortunately her English has declined since the pandemic, perhaps from all the cocaine. Good thing she remains an A+ service with both GFE and PSE capabilities. Sensual and seductive is also in her repertoire. She does amazing things with a bottle of lotion. Let's me put any appendage in any hole. She's never a bad option when the line up is slim at the later hours when I'm needing reliable service for a difficult finish on my last room of the day. Small girl who can handle hard sex for a long time with enough energy to ride on top for more than just 2 minutes. Any appendage, any hole. Front, back, top, bottom, upside down. True spinner.

[B]Babysitter Blond Salin[/B]

Tiny cheerleader looking type. Bright and pretty face with small breasts. Plump, baby-fat butt but not too big. 19 or 20 years old. Flirty and bubbly personality. Nothing remarkable for service. Would have been a great 50 e optic fuck years ago but for 100 e, her service is trash. Imagine being a high school guy and fucking a freshman girl. Would not repeat at current pricing.

[B]MILF Brunette ?Carolina?[/B]

Late 20's, medium height, run-of-mill breast. Standard curves. Not old looking but would be a MILF category by porno standards. Seductive approach, promises the world in the room but in reality, not terrible, just standard service. Holds positions for too short of time. Too many "change positions". Too quick to go to doggy. Nothing intimate, nothing PSE. Also would have been a satisfactory 50 e room back in the day. Would not repeat at current pricing.

[B]See title.[/B] Same for those with grievances regarding price discussions.

Let's start a trend. I gave some reviews of recent girls, maybe you can add some too. Funny though, a poster with some snarkiness, recently challenged me to post a review to which I directed him to a long review I just posted only 3 days prior. I couldn't seem to find yours though. Contributions regarding girls from someone like you who has a significant amount of experience would definitely be helpful to all and would definitely pump up the ratio of posts about specific girls to tangential discussions. I've noticed your gravitation toward AO clubs. I'm not into most of the girls at those types of clubs but I do appreciate the occasional AO find at a regular club. Personally, I would find that insight to be of particular interest, but would appreciate any insight into specific girls from a monger with as much experience as yourself.

I'm with you though, let's jumpstart this trend of regular posters reviewing specific girls. We would get a better picture of quality and pricing for other regular mongers, not just reviews from infrequent mongers paying tourist prices with tourist standards.

I actually don't have a lot of new girls at Sharks, much due to not trying many new girls since refusing the 200 e per hour rate and certainly not the ridiculous 150 per 30 m rate, with the few attempts at new girls turning out pretty unsatisfactory. Now with girls even asking 250 e for "premium" service with no bonafide extras, it's obvious they will keep hiking prices as guys keep paying them. Burning 50 e on an optic fuck or a Did-Not-Finish room is occasionally acceptable for me, but burning 100-200 e to try new girls with a higher probability of mediocre service than in years past is just silly for people other than young dudes or new mongers who haven't been in the hobby long enough to know how much great sex you can have in an FKK. Some think they know, but from what I've read about the girls I know, they're measuring by a different standard of expectations.

It might be futile, and some don't like the price discussions, but I don't mind being the guy to constantly keep reminding lurkers who read but don't post of the exploitative price trends for a decline in services, hopefully pushing the silent readers in the direction of exploring other options rather than just feeding the Frankfurt Big Five / Big Three price exploitation machine. Guys keep paying at each increase, girls keep showing up at Sharks where you have to pay double near by rates, taking talent from other places. But like Switzerland, despite higher prices earned per room, girls would stop working there because when they could not make enough rooms consistently every day. Talked to a girl last weekend who said she makes more working at 50 euro German clubs than at 120 chf /138 e Swiss clubs so she chose the cheaper club settling for lower rates but more rooms. At Sharks, keep feeding the machine and girls keep taking advantage. But unlike Switzerland, the current situation leaves the monger with a bunch of overpriced yet over-fucked girls. Terrible situation all around.

Anyway, here's a call to action for the guys requesting less tangents and more reviews. Are they men of action who actually fix problems or just complaining Karens asking to have a word with the manager?

My French friend was asked yesterday 150/30 for FK by Celine who was more fresh with less make up and less expensive at Oase, and Stacy. He didn't go, he was right, when I had 150/60 so GFE with a more impressive look elsewhere in Germany. These little Romanian types turned really crazy, when we can get German escorts for less expensive.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2890950]Yessir, but wait no more. I hope you find my recent review of a club not named Sharks helpful and inspire feedback from contributors who hope to contain the madness promoted by mongers who feed into the deterioration of the FKK scene by allowing Sharks hustlers to exploit mongers, bless their hearts, who just don't know any better. You may also find similar reviews in the Gold, Venus, and Oase threads. But if you really want it, I'm sure you can find my not so nice review of Sharks from a month or so ago too.

Kind regards.[/QUOTE]Sharks is for quantity you like, when I much prefer only 1 quality and I love to repeat weekly, but I agree most Sharks girls are now bad value for money compare to value still can be found elsewhere in Germany and prettier. Prettiest and best are now not for the most expensive. When I work into my deep GFE, I was asked yesterday: if you like a girl and if she stopped to work here, could you have her for GF outside? Weird embarrassing question while sex, so I answered: I live in Paris, when deep Rhur German escort who was a superstar, so busy in business, asking so much to meet, maybe she doesn't find another bad guy she can trust enough to ask to make her squirting, when we showered so much, laughing so much in bed. Can t experience such with too expensive Sharks little Romanians. My tip is extra for kissing mean few low level kiss, when those who are able to kiss like woman don't ask, but will tell you if you kiss good and ask for again if they like.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2891124]Sharks is for quantity you like, when I much prefer only 1 quality and I love to repeat weekly, but I agree most Sharks girls are now bad value for money compare to value still can be found elsewhere in Germany and prettier. Prettiest and best are now not for the most expensive. When I work into my deep GFE, I was asked yesterday: if you like a girl and if she stopped to work here, could you have her for GF outside? Weird embarrassing question while sex, so I answered: I live in Paris, when deep Rhur German escort who was a superstar, so busy in business, asking so much to meet, maybe she doesn't find another bad guy she can trust enough to ask to make her squirting, when we showered so much, laughing so much in bed. Can t experience such with too expensive Sharks little Romanians. My tip is extra for kissing mean few low level kiss, when those who are able to kiss like woman don't ask, but will tell you if you kiss good and ask for again if they like.[/QUOTE]For over 40 years, the purpose of an FKK as envisioned by the original concept at the original club Bernds, Rest in Peace, is to pay an entry, see a girl, have some public action. Fuck her in public or in private, Relax for some time, Socialize, Fuck another, maybe join in on some group stuff, have a drink or two as originally the girl would provide a beverage from the bar. Prices were supposed to be standard for all girls. None of this "not all girls are worth the same rate" nonsense. And for over 20 years, the purpose of internet paid sex forums has been to share information about sex workers, details of service, location, pricing, logistics.

The purpose of FKK sauna clubs was never to romance a single hooker. The atmosphere was also a social living room atmosphere with a bar, pool, and sauna, to sex, relax, and socialize. Original mongers were actually intellectuals, not quite high society, but intellectuals who had discussions and socialized between sessions. Pricing was standard, not determined by perceived individual value. Likewise, the purpose of internet paid sex forums was to make use of advice and information provided by others, not to boost personal ego by scoffing at heeding, considering or following information and advice from others.

I do have sympathy for people who can no longer cum more than once in a day. It's a sad reality all men eventually face as we get old. At that point, I suppose quantity becomes less important because when you only have one bullet in the chamber, you have to reduce the number of rooms as that one precious cum becomes more and more important. After all, you don't want to blow your single load on a mediocre room.

But when you have some extra cum to spare, extra bullets in the chamber, then you can add variety, spray a little more rather than snipe in solitude. This makes quantity of women more attractive and affords a monger the ability add some lesser girls to the rotations. The loyal, single girl, reclusive monger is better suited to prowl the private scene, enjoying his own company, and paying variable prices of that world as he deems fit.

At FKK sauna clubs, I like to have one number one GFE superstar at each club and at least 2 more optic fucks in order to get the full FKK experience. An ideal FKK day would be when the first room is pornstar experience with cum in mouth or cum on face / tits: quality. Then one or two optic-rabbit-frog fucks, lower quality of service can be forgiven in these rooms: quantity. Finally a longer room with the best GFE girl finishing with a cream pie to end the day: quality.

When nature forces you to only have one finish, then I suppose quality is what I would choose also. Until then, both quality and quantity adds to a great FKK experience, the way it was meant to be.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2891115]My French friend was asked yesterday 150/30 for FK by Celine who was more fresh with less make up and less expensive at Oase, and Stacy. He didn't go, he was right, when I had 150/60 so GFE with a more impressive look elsewhere in Germany. These little Romanian types turned really crazy, when we can get German escorts for less expensive.[/QUOTE]He tried Celine for 150/30 , among quite poor casting for him, when he is less demanding than me for look and image. He was disappointed by quality, for too expensive, when Celine was more fresh with lighter make up for less expensive at Oase. Fortunately, he had better girls for less expensive on this week end at Sharks. Nadine is back. Most expensive don t mean the best at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2891115]My French friend was asked yesterday 150/30 for FK by Celine . . . . and Stacy. He didn't go, he was right, when I had 150/60 so GFE with a more impressive look elsewhere in Germany. These little Romanian types turned really crazy, when we can get German escorts for less expensive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2891598]He tried Celine for 150/30 , among quite poor casting for him, when he is less demanding than me for look and image. He was disappointed by quality, for too expensive, when Celine was more fresh with lighter make up for less expensive at Oase. Fortunately, he had better girls for less expensive on this week end at Sharks. Nadine is back. Most expensive don t mean the best at Sharks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2889160]Stacy usually sits at the bar in front of the waterfalls near the German corner,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866152]Currently Celine is the cutest girl in Sharks. She deserves 200/60.
.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned repeatedly in my previous posts that Selin (Celine) and Stacy are my current top favorites in Sharks. It seems that you start to smear them? LOL.

Actually I am very happy if you guys don't like them. I would have more chance to get them.

Yes, they both are expensive. 150/30 or 200/60. I did spend quite much money on them. Since I booked them in multiple-hour sessions, the average rate could be more cost-effective. I could easily cum 2-3 times and very relaxed and enjoyable during longer sessions.

BTW, I am not bored with Catelea. I promised her to book her five-hours in next visit.

Wait, wait. What about tip. I remember you guy was arguing over to tip or not to tip. Don't forget to tip. Can't wait until 300 for 30 minutes. The more you tip the sooner we will get there.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2891057][B]Red Punk-Emo Melissa[/B]

Mid to second half of twenties, former superstar but now looks a bit emaciated, tired even. Breast and butt are still near ideal but have lost their former pop, face more worn. Still a good room and much better deal when considering her asking price is no longer 50% above the others. She was good, but not that good. A- face and former A body but now more of a Be+ or perhaps A- body for my taste. Classy personality by Eastern European hooker standards. Service was A- but maybe A or A+ for guys who like a girl who can carry a conversation. She would probably make a good escort.

[B]Classic Blond Lori[/B], formerly Loredona.

Almost or is 25 yo, probably my favorite Sharks girl at the moment, nothing bad to say about her. All services offered. Offers both put-a-baby-in-me energy sex as well as Pornstar capabilities. She's a Be+ or A- face and an A- body for my facial / body preferences. Longer legs would put her over the top for me. Her torso is a little long for her legs. Maybe even a little more boobage would be nice. To me, she looks better when she has less make up / eyelash. Slightly hardened and a little bit cynical personality is in line with a civilian girl I would date in real life. A+++ service with me and generally overall good reviews from others, particularly from the German guys, probably because she got her start at a tiny local club near by. I have heard that she has had some mediocre rooms with non-regulars but have never heard of anyone saying they had a straight up bad room. Would like to try her older sister, Ginger, who is even prettier but is brunette with bigger boobs. Similar personality that is almost like a chill-AF American girl. It's a pleasure when they make their short tours, a shame that they are not there more often.

[B]Spinner brunette Yvette[/B]

Now approaching 30 yo if not already, is a former regular. She now looks way too coked out, slightly anorexic, but 8 years of somewhat regular service affords me anything I want in the room. Former Be+ optics but now more of a Be- and perhaps even lower on days she's worn out. Personality is pretty great though, very inquisitive, tries to build a connection outside of the room first. Unfortunately her English has declined since the pandemic, perhaps from all the cocaine. Good thing she remains an A+ service with both GFE and PSE capabilities. Sensual and seductive is also in her repertoire. She does amazing things with a bottle of lotion. Let's me put any appendage in any hole. She's never a bad option when the line up is slim at the later hours when I'm needing reliable service for a difficult finish on my last room of the day. Small girl who can handle hard sex for a long time with enough energy to ride on top for more than just 2 minutes. Any appendage, any hole. Front, back, top, bottom, upside down. True spinner.

[B]Babysitter Blond Salin[/B]

Tiny cheerleader looking type. Bright and pretty face with small breasts. Plump, baby-fat butt but not too big. 19 or 20 years old. Flirty and bubbly personality. Nothing remarkable for service. Would have been a great 50 e optic fuck years ago but for 100 e, her service is trash. Imagine being a high school guy and fucking a freshman girl. Would not repeat at current pricing.

[B]MILF Brunette ?Carolina?[/B]

Late 20's, medium height, run-of-mill breast. Standard curves. Not old looking but would be a MILF category by porno standards. Seductive approach, promises the world in the room but in reality, not terrible, just standard service. Holds positions for too short of time. Too many "change positions". Too quick to go to doggy. Nothing intimate, nothing PSE. Also would have been a satisfactory 50 e room back in the day. Would not repeat at current pricing.

[B]See title.[/B] Same for those with grievances regarding price discussions.

Let's start a trend. I gave some reviews of recent girls, maybe you can add some too. Funny though, a poster with some snarkiness, recently challenged me to post a review to which I directed him to a long review I just posted only 3 days prior. I couldn't seem to find yours though. Contributions regarding girls from someone like you who has a significant amount of experience would definitely be helpful to all and would definitely pump up the ratio of posts about specific girls to tangential discussions. I've noticed your gravitation toward AO clubs. I'm not into most of the girls at those types of clubs but I do appreciate the occasional AO find at a regular club. Personally, I would find that insight to be of particular interest, but would appreciate any insight into specific girls from a monger with as much experience as yourself.

I'm with you though, let's jumpstart this trend of regular posters reviewing specific girls. We would get a better picture of quality and pricing for other regular mongers, not just reviews from infrequent mongers paying tourist prices with tourist standards.

I actually don't have a lot of new girls at Sharks, much due to not trying many new girls since refusing the 200 e per hour rate and certainly not the ridiculous 150 per 30 m rate, with the few attempts at new girls turning out pretty unsatisfactory. Now with girls even asking 250 e for "premium" service with no bonafide extras, it's obvious they will keep hiking prices as guys keep paying them. Burning 50 e on an optic fuck or a Did-Not-Finish room is occasionally acceptable for me, but burning 100-200 e to try new girls with a higher probability of mediocre service than in years past is just silly for people other than young dudes or new mongers who haven't been in the hobby long enough to know how much great sex you can have in an FKK. Some think they know, but from what I've read about the girls I know, they're measuring by a different standard of expectations.

It might be futile, and some don't like the price discussions, but I don't mind being the guy to constantly keep reminding lurkers who read but don't post of the exploitative price trends for a decline in services, hopefully pushing the silent readers in the direction of exploring other options rather than just feeding the Frankfurt Big Five / Big Three price exploitation machine. Guys keep paying at each increase, girls keep showing up at Sharks where you have to pay double near by rates, taking talent from other places. But like Switzerland, despite higher prices earned per room, girls would stop working there because when they could not make enough rooms consistently every day. Talked to a girl last weekend who said she makes more working at 50 euro German clubs than at 120 chf /138 e Swiss clubs so she chose the cheaper club settling for lower rates but more rooms. At Sharks, keep feeding the machine and girls keep taking advantage. But unlike Switzerland, the current situation leaves the monger with a bunch of overpriced yet over-fucked girls. Terrible situation all around.

Anyway, here's a call to action for the guys requesting less tangents and more reviews. Are they men of action who actually fix problems or just complaining Karens asking to have a word with the manager?[/QUOTE]Even her face is aging, but Melissa is worthing highest value among this list for me, when so long time Loredana face is on same level for me than Brenda and too much tattoes, not my image for women. I m much more excited by woman images and I prefer so much more quality than quantity with average looks, when emptying is waste of money, when I want to pay only to dream. When at Sharks or Globe, so difficult for me to find only one attractive among quantity, but at GG, I have to organize between my 2 woman images telling me about the other and now also Arabic glamour, for those who ever experienced the fire of Arabic women. Really not same experience from few tours and being so often, I remember on 2016 when I was 5 days per week, but since covid lockdown, I became much pickier, not finding only one to pay for at Globe and cultural to pay only for quality, when I hate to waste for only average. Many girls might be right when telling me brothels are not for me, being too different they tell, probably why I don t want brothels friends, feeling too different for what I look for and behavior. Not at Sharks since Summer, but I still find quality and for 150/60+ with more than 10 rooms with both, so no reason to pay more expensive for lower image and GFE potential. Italia was funny turning angry on last time when she wanted I relax her for her day, but I have social hard work with her.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891660]As I mentioned repeatedly in my previous posts that Selin (Celine) and Stacy are my current top favorites in Sharks. It seems that you start to smear them? LOL.

Actually I am very happy if you guys don't like them. I would have more chance to get them.

Yes, they both are expensive. 150/30 or 200/60. I did spend quite much money on them. Since I booked them in multiple-hour sessions, the average rate could be more cost-effective. I could easily cum 2-3 times and very relaxed and enjoyable during longer sessions.

BTW, I am not bored with Catelea. I promised her to book her five-hours in next visit.[/QUOTE]I see now that the Salin I reviewed is the Celine / Seline that you all were speaking about.

Now I understand for sure why she felt like she was worth more. We have guys who actually believe her or perhaps led her to believe this. She is the perfect example of a WG made to cater to entry level paid sex hobbyist. Pretty with a friendly personality but in the bedroom she is completely limited.

I think I compared sex with her to the sex you have with your girlfriend from high school when no one really do what they were doing. The girl did not know how to properly suck a dick, just basic. Her hips had no rhythm when riding, not even much stamina. And when doggy or mish, she kept trying to hold the cock to prevent deep entry.

She is the perfect example of what used to be a 50 euro optic fuck but now we have guys paying 200 per hour for this? She gets booked for multiple hours? What's happening in these long rooms? Watching Pokemon cartoons?

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891660]As I mentioned repeatedly in my previous posts that Selin (Celine) and Stacy are my current top favorites in Sharks. It seems that you start to smear them? LOL.

Actually I am very happy if you guys don't like them. I would have more chance to get them.

Yes, they both are expensive. 150/30 or 200/60. I did spend quite much money on them. Since I booked them in multiple-hour sessions, the average rate could be more cost-effective. I could easily cum 2-3 times and very relaxed and enjoyable during longer sessions.

BTW, I am not bored with Catelea. I promised her to book her five-hours in next visit.[/QUOTE]I feel a bit guilty about my french friend when I told him about Celine when she was more fresh and for 100/30 at Oase, so, knowing how I m picky, he dreamed about her to pay 150/30 for only very average. Stacy asked him same, but he didn't go. I don't pay for such looks. Keep on paying for average, when I pay less expensive for much more woman images and higher level in bed than Katalea. If I fucked her like my Russian, she would cry.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2891842]I see now that the Salin I reviewed is the Celine / Seline that you all were speaking about.

Now I understand for sure why she felt like she was worth more. We have guys who actually believe her or perhaps led her to believe this. She is the perfect example of a WG made to cater to entry level paid sex hobbyist. Pretty with a friendly personality but in the bedroom she is completely limited.

I think I compared sex with her to the sex you have with your girlfriend from high school when no one really do what they were doing. The girl did not know how to properly suck a dick, just basic. Her hips had no rhythm when riding, not even much stamina. And when doggy or mish, she kept trying to hold the cock to prevent deep entry.

She is the perfect example of what used to be a 50 euro optic fuck but now we have guys paying 200 per hour for this? She gets booked for multiple hours? What's happening in these long rooms? Watching Pokemon cartoons?[/QUOTE]Schoolgirl look, many seemed to miss at school, when I m excited by girls looking like normal women I see in streets and I pay 150/60 for full GFE fkissing and woman reactions about what I do. Russia is busy, but looking at all what I do.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2891842]I see now that the Salin I reviewed is the Celine / Seline that you all were speaking about.

Now I understand for sure why she felt like she was worth more. We have guys who actually believe her or perhaps led her to believe this. She is the perfect example of a WG made to cater to entry level paid sex hobbyist. [/QUOTE]Ha, entry level paid sex hobbyist? LOL. You?

I have a decade FKK experience from Hessen to NRW clubs. I used to be too lazy to write reports, and I barely visited ISG forum before Covid.

My taste of girls constantly changed.

From 2013-2015, I liked women type. So Dina, Vivian, Sandra (de) were my favorites.

Later in 2016, Megan, Janine, Helli (Kelly) became my most favorites. I also competed Japanese for Cosmina & Evita. Some random girls such as Tatiana and Ariana (19 yo at that time) also earned long sessions from me. And Scarlett (ex Samya Candy) were also my favorite too.

In 2017, I spent quite a lot of time with Betty, vivian's friend. She wore a glasses looking like a high school girl friend. And Melanie (Sirioja Snow White) was kind of my favorite.

In 2018, Helen (woman type), Corina, Lily (girl type), Mandy (service oriented) , Roxy, and Mellisa became my favorites.

In 2019, Ashley (now Adriana), Denise (now kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (now Kathleen), Jazz became my favorites. I still remember 2019 Christmas party. That was Sharks prime time before pandemic.

In 2022, I came back. But the lineup was not impressive. It was true that I reunioned with Betty, Adriana, Kathleen, Mara, Roxy, Melissa, Kitty, Cosmina, but old times good feelings never come back anymore.

In 2023, I suddenly realized that I like young girls without much experience. This year, Lola (19), Roberta (18), Stacy (21), Selin / celine (18). They all are high school girl friends type. I enjoy time with beautiful Catelea too.

About Selin / Celine, her service might not be as good as Mandy, but she is young and very pretty. Celine is sly (and shy in some degree) and playful, but she did try her best to please me.

Stacy looks like my college girl friend long time ago.

Lola is a little cutie, sweet.

Roberta, now in Oase, very pretty.

I am old now. I could only go to room with young girls. I don't care about service anymore.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2891667]Wait, wait. What about tip. I remember you guy was arguing over to tip or not to tip. Don't forget to tip. Can't wait until 300 for 30 minutes. The more you tip the sooner we will get there.[/QUOTE]Fortunately, this is just at Sharks, when prettier for less expensive at Oase or elsewhere, so, just easy to decide for me. Sharks is now for average looks asking expensive, when most expensive are not meaning the best quality. Nevertheless, was crowded on this first Saturday of month with 20 mn to wait for room at midnight, so, many are happy to pay their salary for bad value. I hate to waste my money and want to pay only for excellence and dream.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891995]Ha, entry level paid sex hobbyist? LOL. You?

I have a decade FKK experience from Hessen to NRW clubs. I used to be too lazy to write reports, and I barely visited ISG forum before Covid.

My taste of girls constantly changed.[/QUOTE]Yes, the bolded was really the take home message. Nice list of Asian hunters.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892119]Yes, the bolded was really the take home message. Nice list of Asian hunters.[/QUOTE]Sounds familiar. I remember a long time ago, 2016 there was an Asian guy competing with me for Arianna and Anja. LOL.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891995]Ha, entry level paid sex hobbyist? LOL. You?

I have a decade FKK experience from Hessen to NRW clubs. I used to be too lazy to write reports, and I barely visited ISG forum before Covid.

My taste of girls constantly changed.

From 2013-2015, I liked women type. So Dina, Vivian, Sandra (de) were my favorites.

Later in 2016, Megan, Janine, Helli (Kelly) became my most favorites. I also competed Japanese for Cosmina & Evita. Some random girls such as Tatiana and Ariana (19 yo at that time) also earned long sessions from me. And Scarlett (ex Samya Candy) were also my favorite too.

In 2017, I spent quite a lot of time with Betty, vivian's friend. She wore a glasses looking like a high school girl friend. And Melanie (Sirioja Snow White) was kind of my favorite.

In 2018, Helen (woman type), Corina, Lily (girl type), Mandy (service oriented) , Roxy, and Mellisa became my favorites..[/QUOTE]Ex Oase Celine look never worth 100 per 30 for me, nor Stacy of course. If you remember Megan, or Karina claiming to be Spanish, or Mersi. Hu, your eyes lost for demanding level, but I understand better if you pay more expensive for companionship, when getting older, but I fuck like in 20's say some woman type girls and for less expensive, when your so expensive little Romanians could never resist. Katalea who was more fresh on 2021, but suffered after few rooms when I fucked her small pussy, even close to 180. I had to be also very careful with tall Lora. FR I also met out of Sharks.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891995]And Scarlett (ex Samya Candy) were also my favorite too.
[/QUOTE]Was that the Scarlett who was friends with Melanie or a different Scarlett?

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892143]Sounds familiar. I remember a long time ago, 2016 there was an Asian guy competing with me for Arianna and Anja. LOL.[/QUOTE]You see paying for hookers as a competition? That's not a healthy view man. For active hookers, there will always be a richer man who can pay them more and a younger guy who can fuck them better. I'm sure you know this.

But Ariana, ah, fond memories. I remember regularly picking her up after work that year. We woud either go back to her place or mine. On one night she was particularly happy because she made over 1500 e because a couple of regulars were celebrating their birthdays and paid her quite a bit. She generously spent some of that on me since she paid for my breakfast and lunch the next day. I took her back to Sharks after lunch but not before I creampied her on my nephew's bed. (Don't worry, I asked the housekeeper to wash his sheets before he came back from holiday). That might have been the morning she got pregnant too. 2016 was a pretty fun year at Sharks. Saved a lot of money when 19-21 year old hookers kept undercutting each other to get your business. Didn't think the price would ever reach zero. Heck, that day I guess I actually profited by getting 2 meals paid for! It's basically like her clients paid for my breakfast and lunch! I must clarify that I wasn't driving an older BMW with Romanian plates.

This Ariana right? Check the last pic, that ass was fire.

Calm down Escape Artist, you were NOT the only guy who booked Ariana whole night. That day I was waiting for the 19 yo single mother (appointment set up a day before), but she went directly to a wealthy Japanese who might pay her 1500 as you said from 4 pm to 12 am. During that period I had to take her friend Tatiana again and again until I felt bored. Since then I lost interest in your Ariana.

Congrats you impregnated the 19 yo hooker. She had one in 2015. Yours were 2nd.

2016 was wonderful year. 50 euros you still could get decent service from girls like Megan, Dina, Janine, Vivian, Sandra, Evita, Cosmina, Helli, Scarlet, Anja, Gloriana, Steffi, Lenna, Melanie, Beatrice, Rebecca, Ester, Lavinia, Regiana, Amalie, etc. They were all young and beautiful. I too was younger and had more assets to spend on this expensive hobby.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892243]You see paying for hookers as a competition? That's not a healthy view man. For active hookers, there will always be a richer man who can pay them more and a younger guy who can fuck them better. I'm sure you know this.

But Ariana, ah, fond memories. I remember regularly picking her up after work that year. We woud either go back to her place or mine. On one night she was particularly happy because she made over 1500 e because a couple of regulars were celebrating their birthdays and paid her quite a bit. She generously spent some of that on me since she paid for my breakfast and lunch the next day. I took her back to Sharks after lunch but not before I creampied her on my nephew's bed. (Don't worry, I asked the housekeeper to wash his sheets before he came back from holiday). That might have been the morning she got pregnant too. 2016 was a pretty fun year at Sharks. Saved a lot of money when 19-21 year old hookers kept undercutting each other to get your business. Didn't think the price would ever reach zero. Heck, that day I guess I actually profited by getting 2 meals paid for! It's basically like her clients paid for my breakfast and lunch! I must clarify that I wasn't driving an older BMW with Romanian plates.

This Ariana right? Check the last pic, that ass was fire.[/QUOTE]Did You forget her young German guy? When You were really funny about this, when crazy how she turned after not much more than one month at Sharks, I m sure she didn t pay so much but saving about gummi to use. On my weekly visits and I chose Megan of course when she asked me to, I saw average face with saggy tits quite often with very slow business when she lost freshness very fast, leaving in afternoon, coming back. Like Katalea, burned freshness after only few weeks. Photos are much prettier than was reality in the club. So crazy little mum, when I usually love little mum.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2891995]........I am old now. I could only go to room with young girls. I don't care about service anymore.[/QUOTE]Like yourself I'm not a spring chicken but I definitely am different in terms of likes. I could be with the hottest girl if she is disinterested or clearly behaves as if she wants to be somewhere else my session with her will be unenjoyable. Good service is a prerequisite for me having a good time.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892289]Calm down Escape Artist, you were NOT the only guy who booked Ariana whole night. That day I was waiting for the 19 yo single mother (appointment set up a day before), but she went directly to a wealthy Japanese who might pay her 1500 as you said from 4 pm to 12 am. During that period I had to take her friend Tatiana again and again until I felt bored. Since then I lost interest in your Ariana.

Congrats you impregnated the 19 yo hooker. She had one in 2015. Yours were 2nd..[/QUOTE]LOL, sounds frustrating. I think that is the problem with the mindset, "competing" for hookers. The sentiment of competing to pay for pussy is a rather sad one. Besides, there isn't any competition when I wasn't paying for it. Never booked her for many long rooms so your waits were hardly a result of me. Believe me, I even ensured that you didn't have to wait for her on account of me, tried to never interfered with her business. One day she told me you where coming and I told her to go make money. I think perhaps that night might have been why you attached Albania Anja to me. While Ariana was away with a whale, I usually snuck in rooms. That night I snuck in a room with Anja and go on to hear stories about Ariana punching her in the locker rooms. LOL. Hookers. Amirite?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892243]I took her back to Sharks after lunch but not before I creampied her on my nephew's bed. (Don't worry, I asked the housekeeper to wash his sheets before he came back from holiday). That might have been the morning she got pregnant[/QUOTE]You barebak and impregnated a hooker?

That's not a healthy and safe practice man! This behavior would jeopardize not only yourself but other mongers safety.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2892290]Did You forget her young German guy? When You were really funny about this, when crazy how she turned after not much more than one month at Sharks, I m sure she didn t pay so much but saving about gummi to use. On my weekly visits and I chose Megan of course when she asked me to, I saw average face with saggy tits quite often with very slow business when she lost freshness very fast, leaving in afternoon, coming back. Like Katalea, burned freshness after only few weeks. Photos are much prettier than was reality in the club. So crazy little mum, when I usually love little mum.[/QUOTE]Why would I forget him? He was another I told her to go to if she was sitting with me. But unlike with the older guys, she would not make time for him because he was only a 50 euro guy.

I agree, her tits were not great. But she gave great blowjobs and she let me creampie for free so hooray for cumming inside 19 year olds!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892396]Why would I forget him? He was another I told her to go to if she was sitting with me. But unlike with the older guys, she would not make time for him because he was only a 50 euro guy.

I agree, her tits were not great. But she gave great blowjobs and she let me creampie for free so hooray for cumming inside 19 year olds![/QUOTE]You seemed to worry much about him, when I m fully sure you were not the only one to AO her, when she lost so much control in bed, but even I love little mums, from my life, but I chose Megan, when she made so much problems and Megan asked me to choose and I didn't regret, I often saw her with no business and snoopy cartoon eyes. Same level for look than Loredana.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892395]You barebak and impregnated a hooker?

That's not a healthy and safe practice man! This behavior would jeopardize not only yourself but other mongers safety.[/QUOTE]And when he works in medical and when she was really crazy. I think many fucked her AO, not me. When a girl propose, I don't do because it means she also propose to others. I prefer when surprise and only repeating if the girl doesn't ask extra, because then, meaning not part of her business.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892395]You barebak and impregnated a hooker?

That's not a healthy and safe practice man! This behavior would jeopardize not only yourself but other mongers safety.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not all that dumb and I make use of modern medicine.

Antiviral PREP reduces the chance of contracting HIV to practically zero.

I vaccinated against HPV.

Doxycycline PREP / PEP mitigates Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, and Syphillis significantly. If for some offshoot reason you get a breakthrough case of GC or S, Rocephin, Azithromycin, and / or Penicillin will finish those off.

Herpes isn't contagious until there's an outbreak and antiviral prophylaxis prevents outbreaks.

Warts you can also see. Same with chancroids.

Trich is asymptomatic in men and easily taken cared of with a short course of metronidazole.

Condoms doesn't stop pubic lice.

You're more of a public health threat than I am doing DATY and BBBJs without PREP. Amateur monger taking unnecessary risks spreading that nasty throat gonorrhea. That gunk in your eye in the morning? You probably have chlamydia. Scoff, newb.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2892454]You seemed to worry much about him, when I m fully sure you were not the only one to AO her, when she lost so much control in bed, but even I love little mums, from my life, but I chose Megan, when she made so much problems and Megan asked me to choose and I didn't regret, I often saw her with no business and snoopy cartoon eyes. Same level for look than Loredana.

And when he works in medical and when she was really crazy. I think many fucked her AO, not me. When a girl propose, I don't do because it means she also propose to others. I prefer when surprise and only repeating if the girl doesn't ask extra, because then, meaning not part of her business.[/QUOTE]Pride, egos, and the imaginary competition.

Quickly, yeah, I actually went straight to Loredona the first time I saw her because I thought she looked so much like a more stoic Arianna. I had to try and that girl was fire. The Germans at Fig Leaf taught her well. Not going to say who was better but Loredona was older with more experience and training when I met her. But Arianna was more fire when mad at me. Passionate sex with a beautiful woman is one thing, but make up sex with an out-of-control 19 year old who was cursing at you in Romanian just 5 minutes prior to sex is an out of this world experience.

Anyway, I remember when I first paid Megan.

[B]Megan[/B]

I remember my first room with [B]Megan[/B]. I was driving Ariana to work and we pulled into the gravel lot across the street from Sharks. Being seen in a car with one of the guys from the club was a big no no. Some girls were there smoking near their cars and told Ariana that not many customers were inside and they were going to go to into Frankfurt for some shopping, nails, etc. Kiss goodbye and she jumped into their car. I took the opportunity to go inside and sneak a quick room when Arianna was away. I first drove to Aldi to throw them off my scent and not be seen pulling into the main Sharks lot. When I finally entered, sure enough, it was quiet. Just a few guys and a decent amount of girls at around 2 pm. Megan was there as she often started quite early. I approached her for a room but she was hesitant. I didn't know why but some jokes and smiles and we go. When we finally get in the room and she said half jokingly, "Arianna will kill me. " I brushed it off and started the session. DATY, BBBJ, suck on her tits, yadda yadda yadda. Then I go in for a kiss but got denied. She says again, "Arianna will kill me. " Oh well, no worries, so we started fucking and fucked for a while. Before taking Arianna to work, we already had morning sex so I could go for a long time at a fast pace with Megan. After a good amount of fucking, I go in for kissing. This time, success! Passionate kissing as she wrapped those long legs around me really tight. She then comes up for air and says, "Wow. But you cannot tell Arianna. She will kill me if she know if go to room and kill me again if she know we kiss like this. !" I had a good laugh and kept fucking her some more. Nice room, pretty much just fucked her missionary for 30 minutes straight. Afterward, we talked a bit about random stuff to finish off the hour but remembering her expressing so much guilt because she felt like she did something bad to Arianna. (Didn't stop her from going with me for a handful more rooms though.).

Anyway, I think it's funny when guys are proud of which hooker they decide to pay. Strange skillset to be proud of I'd say. It's as if pride and paying a woman to touch your penis doesn't seem to go together.

This whole being competitive about hookers is quite silly. It's even a bit pathetic and sad. It was bad enough that the other dude is talking about competing for Sharks girl (creepy that he knows me from 7 years ago BTW, watching, peaking around the corner). That's already a terrible mindset. But to no suprise, here we have more talk about beauties and getting the best girls. But really? Having pride about taste in hookers or a hooker preferring for you to pay to fuck her over another client? That's what's driving all this toxicity? Who cares if a hooker prefers fucking you for your money over fucking another dude for his money? When a girl goes with another monger, why feel like you are losing a competition? It's not like the girl actually likes you when she takes your money, you both know that right? Even AO, if she lets you do it without asking for extra, it doesn't mean she likes you. She's still has you pay to fuck her. I mean it's not like it's a secret that Kitty from Yin Yang was giving up AO to every client in Holland. It's why she was booked 24/7. It doesn't matter if you pay for AO or not, you're still paying the girl. Or if a girl comes to you first, it just means you're the first client to pay her that day. In business, taking the sure bet isn't a bad strategy.

So unless the girl is fucking you for free, believe me, there's no competition between a monger and a fuckboy. Unless the girl has refused payment altogether, why feel insecure and write things about competing, or this girl comes to me first, or this girl didn't make me pay for AO, or she comes up to me and proposes a room. Why compete and rest your ego on something that inherently puts you in at a lower social value than the guy she fucks without compensating a hooker with money. Why are people catching emotions and resting their ego on paying hookers? This is some basic level prostitution stuff that should not have needed to be said explicitly.

If you want to see if a girl gives you AO "because it's not part of her business," try and see if she actually lets you fuck her without payment. That's the only time when it's not business. Well maybe one other instance. There was the time when a Sharks girl said 30 minutes after I asked how long we were in the room but the room was at least 3 hours. Sirioja was actually there that day and saw all my rooms.

Guys who aren't paying to fuck the girl are not competing against the guys who do. Heck, I always loved it when the girl's high roller whale was at the club. It gave me a chance to sneak in a room with the other girls. "Go to him baby, I don't want to ruin your business and that man has a lot of money to spend" I would say to her. LOL, devilish. Then I would try to find any girls that I had my eye on. Or girls who previously tried to seduce me away. The corner rooms up on the mezzanine level quickly became where I would have these secret rendezvous, far away from peering eyes and Arianna's spies. I'd have the money ready to pay these secret room girls, extra towels, and always used the shower on that level. The secrecy and the possibility of getting caught made those rooms even better. It was a great run until Anja figured me out and "accidentally" outed me. Oh well. But, talking about those secret rooms reminds me of another great FKK day, the day I found Betty, Ellie at the time, when she was completely fresh and before she became a chunky Asian hunter at Sharks.

[B]Betty[/B]

A friend of mine just got to town and wanted me to go with him to the Christmas party over at Finca. After dropping Arianna at work, I zoomed over to Dierdorf, less than 2 hours from Sharks. I greet my my buddy but then quickly took a room in the cinema. I used to really be into the public stuff but this one was strange. A creepy dude came into the cinema and was watching us. No big deal, I enjoy and audience. But then he kept getting closer and closer. His shadow started hovering over the girl when I was doing her doggy. I didn't know if he was looking at her or at me and plotting to stick his finger in my asshole. It made me nervous! I finally had to tell him to give us some space (should have threatened him with cum in his eye). Quick finish and then went down to join the Christmas party. They hired some professionals for the gang bang so I walked up and got a quick BBBJ and a few minutes of fucking (this was pre-2017 so BBBJ in public was still a thing). Not really enough for any real pleasure but it was cool, never took part in a gang bang before. Talked with my buddy some more but then saw the youngest, freshest girl there. I see [B]Betty who was Ellie[/B] at the time wearing Christmas lingerie and angle wings. Good God, she was so fresh at the time, probably the best she ever looked. Teeth were not perfect but before she started using those silly glasses. She was wearing super high heals and was more slim than when she arrived at Sharks. Being so slim, lingerie, Angel wings, and looking extra tall in the super high heels, she looked like a Victoria Secret model. Took her for a room and it was probably the best room with her ever. She was so fresh back then, before discovering Sharks and the groom your customer game. Just raw, village girl sex. Back then she was still so innocent and worked so much harder in the room. I mean she let me go so hard, no complaints of fucking too hard or too deep yet, passionate kissing, so much energy. It was like fucking in a little Romanian village because she was so fresh off the bus. Anyway, it was around 12 am and I got a text from Arianna a lot sooner than I expected. She said it was slow at Sharks and wanted to come home. She expected that I was going to be at my place in Wiesbaden only 45 minutes away so I had to ignored her message for a little while. Said goodbye to my friend over a cigarette chit chat and made sure to take a good shower without washing my hair. I got in the car and texted Ariana as I was passing Wiesbaden 30-45 minutes into my drive down A3 definitely doing 200 k / h most of the way. Told her I fell asleep but was on my way. Got there around 1:30 am and she thought nothing of it. Took her home and had one more fuck to finish a damn fine day. Theater sex, gang bang sex, Romanian village girl angel sex, and some nice comfort sex before sleep.

Point of all of this is to say that all of this competition over hookers and ego is rubbish. It's not a competition when you're not playing the same game. Mongers are clients, not fuckboys. You can't be a monger and pretend to have fuckboy rizz, It's quite sad when a monger can't tell the difference. It means the line between reality and paid fantasy has become blurred. A mongers should know to leave the fantasy the minute he leaves the fuck room, not have it spill over into your ego and sense of personal self worth.

Check the ego at the door. Enjoy the room, pay the girl, leave it at that.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892289]Calm down Escape Artist, you were NOT the only guy who booked Ariana whole night. That day I was waiting for the 19 yo single mother (appointment set up a day before), but she went directly to a wealthy Japanese who might pay her 1500 as you said from 4 pm to 12 am. During that period I had to take her friend Tatiana again and again until I felt bored. Since then I lost interest in your Ariana.

Congrats you impregnated the 19 yo hooker. She had one in 2015. Yours were 2nd.

2016 was wonderful year. 50 euros you still could get decent service from girls like Megan, Dina, Janine, Vivian, Sandra, Evita, Cosmina, Helli, Scarlet, Anja, Gloriana, Steffi, Lenna, Melanie, Beatrice, Rebecca, Ester, Lavinia, Regiana, Amalie, etc. They were all young and beautiful. I too was younger and had more assets to spend on this expensive hobby.[/QUOTE]For sure, Ariana was not the prettiest compare to Megan who was prettier face than Katalea. Just very fresh, when she started on end of February 2016 , but making problems after 1 month. I often saw her not busy on fridays. You didn t know Mersi who was the prettiest fresh Hungarian? And less professionnal than Dina.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2892361]Like yourself I'm not a spring chicken but I definitely am different in terms of likes. I could be with the hottest girl if she is disinterested or clearly behaves as if she wants to be somewhere else my session with her will be unenjoyable. Good service is a prerequisite for me having a good time.[/QUOTE]When not only beauty but image is first attractive criteria for me, but I can t enjoy without real FK not meaning like a dog, foreplay and a good fuck with no condom holding hurting. When I m more and more selective for quality and happy about this, because I find really high level, but I think I fuck more intense than when I started in this business, same like I still always try to climb faster and improved so much since 2003 when I decided I could climb Mont Ventoux. I really suffered at this time, when easy now, even enjoying the promenade, when not windy above chalets. Like willing to perform to maximum as long I m able, before fall start, many girls telling: You fuck more than in 20's guys, when I fuck for longer, my Russian who is my best potential for fucking being hurt, telling pain and pleasure, so I answered: I want You tell me if bolna, I don t want this. She told me Ok on last week end.

Hello all,

I am a senior member on the USASG site. I had a question about the FKK clubs and the best time to go. I just wanted to experience it once. I was thinking about going Wednesday evening and possible Thursday afternoon. Would it be dead during those times. I would assume that the rates go through the roof on Friday and Saturdays and so those aren't good value days. Should I bite the bullet and go for a Saturday? Thanks for your help and I'll add a report once I go!

J.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892553]Pride, egos, and the imaginary competition.

[B]Betty[/B]

A friend of mine just got to town and wanted me to go with him to the Christmas party over at Finca. After dropping Arianna at work, I zoomed over to Dierdorf, less than 2 hours from Sharks. I greet my my buddy but then quickly took a room in the cinema. I used to really be into the public stuff but this one was strange. A creepy dude came into the cinema and was watching us. No big deal, I enjoy and audience. But then he kept getting closer and closer. His shadow started hovering over the girl when I was doing her doggy. I didn't know if he was looking at her or at me and plotting to stick his finger in my asshole. It made me nervous! I finally had to tell him to give us some space (should have threatened him with cum in his eye). Quick finish and then went down to join the Christmas party. They hired some professionals for the gang bang so I walked up and got a quick BBBJ and a few minutes of fucking (this was pre-2017 so BBBJ in public was still a thing). Not really enough for any real pleasure but it was cool, never took part in a gang bang before. Talked with my buddy some more but then saw the youngest, freshest girl there. I see [B]Betty who was Ellie[/B] at the time wearing Christmas lingerie and angle wings. Good God, she was so fresh at the time, probably the best she ever looked. Teeth were not perfect but before she started using those silly glasses. She was wearing super high heals and was more slim than when she arrived at Sharks. Being so slim, lingerie, Angel wings, and looking extra tall in the super high heels, she looked like a Victoria Secret model. Took her for a room and it was probably the best room with her ever. She was so fresh back then, before discovering Sharks and the groom your customer game. Just raw, village girl sex. Back then she was still so innocent and worked so much harder in the room. I mean she let me go so hard, no complaints of fucking too hard or too deep yet, passionate kissing, so much energy. It was like fucking in a little Romanian village because she was so fresh off the bus. Anyway, it was around 12 am and I got a text from Arianna a lot sooner than I expected. She said it was slow at Sharks and wanted to come home. She expected that I was going to be at my place in Wiesbaden only 45 minutes away so I had to ignored her message for a little while. Said goodbye to my friend over a cigarette chit chat and made sure to take a good shower without washing my hair. I got in the car and texted Ariana as I was passing Wiesbaden 30-45 minutes into my drive down A3 definitely doing 200 k / h most of the way. Told her I fell asleep but was on my way. Got there around 1:30 am and she thought nothing of it. Took her home and had one more fuck to finish a damn fine day. Theater sex, gang bang sex, Romanian village girl angel sex, and some nice comfort sex before sleep.

Point of all of this is to say that all of this competition over hookers and ego is rubbish. It's not a competition when you're not playing the same game. Mongers are clients, not fuckboys. You can't be a monger and pretend to have fuckboy rizz, It's quite sad when a monger can't tell the difference. It means the line between reality and paid fantasy has become blurred. A mongers should know to leave the fantasy the minute he leaves the fuck room, not have it spill over into your ego and sense of personal self worth.

Check the ego at the door. Enjoy the room, pay the girl, leave it at that.[/QUOTE]I heard betty was fucked AO at sharks.

Was that you also?).

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892553]Pride, egos, and the imaginary competition.
This whole being competitive about hookers is quite silly. It's even a bit pathetic and sad. It was bad enough that the other dude is talking about competing for Sharks girl (creepy that he knows me from 7 years ago BTW, watching, peaking around the corner).[/QUOTE]Funny! Who had interest to know you and watch you. Mongers are not gays.

No one care about a love story for Ariana and her temporary's pimp (since you used her money even if just for breakfast).

I don't know why you were reacting so intensely.

According to your posts, it is surely you were not the Asian who blocked me. Reasons:

1) Of course you were not that Asian guy. He actually was very generous to Ariana: booked her whole night and might pay her 1500 euros (as you said, not exactly sure yet). You never book long sessions with Ariana as you mentioned in your posts.

2) From your previous posts, it seems that your financial situation makes you discontent with the current 100/30 standard rate. While that Asian guy were very wealthy.

It seems you liked Betty before. It was just a plum I've already eaten and squeezed dry of juice. I had taken Betty to room at the first month she arrived Sharks from UK. It could be around March 2017. Her "cousin" Vivian introduced her to me. After At least 10 sessions. I was bored, then left her to others.

There is a new Ariana (from Spain) at Sharks now. She is much more pretty than former Your Ariana. But it might be too expensive for you. 150/30 or 200/60.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892702]Funny! Who had interest to know you and watch you. Mongers are not gays.

No one care about a love story for Ariana and her temporary's pimp (since you used her money even if just for breakfast).

I don't know why you were reacting so intensely.

According to your posts, it is surely you were not the Asian who blocked me. Reasons:

1) Of course you were not that Asian guy. He actually was very generous to Ariana: booked her whole night and might pay her 1500 euros (as you said, not exactly sure yet). You never book long sessions with Ariana as you mentioned in your posts.

2) From your previous posts, it seems that your financial situation makes you discontent with the current 100/30 standard rate. While that Asian guy were very wealthy.

It seems you liked Betty before. It was just a plum I've already eaten and squeezed dry of juice. I had taken Betty to room at the first month she arrived Sharks from UK. It could be around March 2017. Her "cousin" Vivian introduced her to me. After At least 10 sessions. I was bored, then left her to others.

There is a new Ariana (from Spain) at Sharks now. She is much more pretty than former Your Ariana. But it might be too expensive for you. 150/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Oh wow, you weren't joking. You really do see it as a competition for who can pay a hooker the most.

I've defended Asians and Americans before when scapegoated for overpaying and fucking up the clubs. But apparently we've identified the source. Consistent with his 10 year history of visiting clubs, that correlates to the timing of when locals started complaining. Hopefully readers don't think that this mentality is typical of 99% of mongers.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2892688]I heard betty was fucked AO at sharks.

Was that you also?).[/QUOTE]I didn't room with Betty very much by the time she arrived at Sharks. I think her best days was at Finca in December 2016. She moved over to Sharks in February of 2017 and was still okay. A few months later she took to Asian hunting and service level plummeted. Seemed like she was more interested in wasting time in the room than actually providing good service. T.

[QUOTE=Jayb20;2892682]Hello all,

I am a senior member on the USASG site. I had a question about the FKK clubs and the best time to go. I just wanted to experience it once. I was thinking about going Wednesday evening and possible Thursday afternoon. Would it be dead during those times. I would assume that the rates go through the roof on Friday and Saturdays and so those aren't good value days. Should I bite the bullet and go for a Saturday? Thanks for your help and I'll add a report once I go!

J.[/QUOTE]Discount 50 euro entry Wednesday would be a pretty full line up, one of the busiest days. Thursday is okay.

Going on slow days probably doesn't affect quoted prices all that much. You may however benefit from better service on the slow days.

I personally think arriving early on a Wednesday is the best time to go to Sharks. Many girls do not work Monday and Tuesday. So if you catch them early on a Wednesday, they are the most rested and fresh at that time. Just get started before the hoards of clients start arriving late afternoon and night.

If he was on the picture, he uploaded. He looks like an asian guy.

A friend told me, he also had the chance to become arianas „boyfriend" „fuckboy", but he wasnt interesed.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892702]Funny! Who had interest to know you and watch you. Mongers are not gays.

No one care about a love story for Ariana and her temporary's pimp (since you used her money even if just for breakfast).

I don't know why you were reacting so intensely.

According to your posts, it is surely you were not the Asian who blocked me. Reasons:

1) Of course you were not that Asian guy. He actually was very generous to Ariana: booked her whole night and might pay her 1500 euros (as you said, not exactly sure yet). You never book long sessions with Ariana as you mentioned in your posts.

2) From your previous posts, it seems that your financial situation makes you discontent with the current 100/30 standard rate. While that Asian guy were very wealthy.

It seems you liked Betty before. It was just a plum I've already eaten and squeezed dry of juice. I had taken Betty to room at the first month she arrived Sharks from UK. It could be around March 2017. Her "cousin" Vivian introduced her to me. After At least 10 sessions. I was bored, then left her to others.

There is a new Ariana (from Spain) at Sharks now. She is much more pretty than former Your Ariana. But it might be too expensive for you. 150/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892553]........ I go in for kissing. This time, success! Passionate kissing as she wrapped those long legs around me really tight.......[/QUOTE]I am jealous. I thought I was the only one who Megan kissed as if I was a boyfriend she was in love with. Many times I would be in the club and she would pout if I looked like I was going to choose another girl and then when I approached her she would have a huge smile on her face. I really miss her.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2892818]I am jealous. I thought I was the only one who Megan kissed as if I was a boyfriend she was in love with. Many times I would be in the club and she would pout if I looked like I was going to choose another girl and then when I approached her she would have a huge smile on her face. I really miss her.[/QUOTE]Yah, one of the better providers for sure.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2892818]I am jealous. I thought I was the only one who Megan kissed as if I was a boyfriend she was in love with. Many times I would be in the club and she would pout if I looked like I was going to choose another girl and then when I approached her she would have a huge smile on her face. I really miss her.[/QUOTE]Why did you feel jealous? No way men!

Because Megan gave a deep kiss to a former pimp of Ariana?

I only rate 6 to Megan's puffy face. TBH, current Catelea is more attractive than year of 2016 Megan.

BTW, Sirioja is possibly real master and true lover of Megan. Thousands of his posts mentioned Megan. Although he might go to room with Megan less than you.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2892782]If he was on the picture, he uploaded. He looks like an asian guy.

A friend told me, he also had the chance to become arianas boyfriend" fuckboy", but he wasnt interesed.[/QUOTE]Man, he missed out on some good fucking. Crazy girls fuck the best, even better when they're mad at you.

I think you misunderstood him, he meant it rather iconically.

And a pimp don't only receive only breakfast and lunch for his work.

A pimp will have took 1350€ of ariannas 1500€ income and let her 100€ for next day entrance and 50€ pocketmoney. Imao.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892893]Why did you feel jealous? No way men!

Because Megan gave a deep kiss to a former pimp of Ariana?

I only rate 6 to Megan's puffy face. TBH, current Catelea is more attractive than year of 2016 Megan.

BTW, Sirioja is possibly real master and true lover of Megan. Thousands of his posts mentioned Megan. Although he might go to room with Megan less than you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892702]Funny! Who had interest to know you and watch you. Mongers are not gays.

No one care about a love story for Ariana and her temporary's pimp (since you used her money even if just for breakfast).

I don't know why you were reacting so intensely.

According to your posts, it is surely you were not the Asian who blocked me. Reasons:

1) Of course you were not that Asian guy. He actually was very generous to Ariana: booked her whole night and might pay her 1500 euros (as you said, not exactly sure yet). You never book long sessions with Ariana as you mentioned in your posts.

2) From your previous posts, it seems that your financial situation makes you discontent with the current 100/30 standard rate. While that Asian guy were very wealthy.

It seems you liked Betty before. It was just a plum I've already eaten and squeezed dry of juice. I had taken Betty to room at the first month she arrived Sharks from UK. It could be around March 2017. Her "cousin" Vivian introduced her to me. After At least 10 sessions. I was bored, then left her to others.

There is a new Ariana (from Spain) at Sharks now. She is much more pretty than former Your Ariana. But it might be too expensive for you. 150/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Past Ariana was limited vagina for real size and too crazy for me and not only in bed. New Ariana is 150/30 for You.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892913]Man, he missed out on some good fucking. Crazy girls fuck the best, even better when they're mad at you.[/QUOTE]I agree, „make-up sex" with a crazy girl can be really special).

But I don't agree with your „no competition" mongers and pimp / fuckboy.

I guess you started fuck arianna by paying her, and then you become her „boyfriend". Right?

Also that morally very questionable, if you only use her to fuck her for free.

Unless you really wanted a normal relationship with her.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892143]Sounds familiar. I remember a long time ago, 2016 there was an Asian guy competing with me for Arianna and Anja. LOL.[/QUOTE]FKKs are really quite a unique place of mongering. Within the mongering world, a phenomenon that I've only seen in FKKs, but amplified at Sharks, is that it seems to reveal some of the darker tendencies of various mongers. FKKs do inherently maintain a social element in the mongering world. You're in the same place as other mongers. In most of the world, the fact that these girls are fucking a lot of guys is not so in your face. At clubs, you see multiple guys fucking the same girls you fuck, often within minutes of you fucking them. Then there is a lot of time in between rooms to see what's going on around you, see how girls interact, how other guys interact. I think this affords the opportunity for insecurities and possessiveness to reveal themselves. It seems to be even a bit traumatic for the type of guys who didn't have great times in high school social environments. It can reveal the nature of some of those mongering peers. A but of a I couldn't girls but l'll show the world now that I can pay for pussy and attention.

Escorts, privates, sugar babies, even laufhaus and eros centers, mongering is private. You don't really see the other guys. Or even in more public scenes like South American and Thai bars, or hotel clubs in the Middle East, shopping for hookers take place in public but sex happens much more discretely, most often in hotel rooms. I think the FKK affords darker emotions to arise, jealousy, pride, obsession, stalkerish tendencies, basically all the fear-based emotions, fear of loss specifically.

A mongering friend said to me recently that it takes a selfish person to be in this hobby, in this FKK club scene specifically. I didn't quite agree that was a definitive truth but do see that he has a point. This specific example, it takes a significant degree of baseline obsession and insecurity to feel that you are competing with other mongers, then escalate to identifying a person online, and hold on to those emotions for almost a decade. Even scarier that all these negative emotions are built around someone a person reports he's has had no direct real life interaction. I've only directly experienced this behavior one other time. The monger felt so insecure in himself that he tracked me down and found my real identity through a hooker's Facebook friends list and directly messaged me on that platform. Not a forum direct messaging inbox, but rather directly on my actual real life identity social media. FKKs are pretty great, but the dark side is that it brings out a lot of unhealthy personality traits.

Is there any French or Dutch beauties present?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2893039]Is there any French or Dutch beauties present?[/QUOTE]Not French, but Maxima with silicon and more and more cellulite on ass, speak french. Emily also. Some Germans.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2892893].....BTW, Sirioja is possibly real master and true lover of Megan. Thousands of his posts mentioned Megan. Although he might go to room with Megan less than you.[/QUOTE]From reading his posts he may have spent more time overall with her as he used to take her for hours at a time. I may have had more sessions with her as I never ever spent more than one hour with a girl in FKKs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2893137]From reading his posts he may have spent more time overall with her as he used to take her for hours at a time. I may have had more sessions with her as I never ever spent more than one hour with a girl in FKKs.[/QUOTE]At Mainhattan where she was prettier, Sharks and Globe, around 35/40 1 h30 rooms. At Sharks, when she started early, she asked me to start her day with me, to relax and give her courage for her day. She lost freshness at Globe where grey blond, when I preferred natural brunette. Real kick in eyes when I saw her at Mainhattan on end of August 2015 . I think if I knew she was not single as she claimed, I would not have met so often.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2892968]FKK affords darker emotions to arise, jealousy, pride, obsession, stalkerish tendencies, basically all the fear-based emotions, fear of loss specifically.
.[/QUOTE]Balabalabala, no one care about your unsubstantiated, paranoid and insidious assertions.

After all, FKK clubs provide relaxed and enjoyable environments for 99% mongers.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2892960]I agree, make-up sex" with a crazy girl can be really special).

But I don't agree with your no competition" mongers and pimp / fuckboy.

I guess you started fuck arianna by paying her, and then you become her boyfriend". Right?

Also that morally very questionable, if you only use her to fuck her for free.

Unless you really wanted a normal relationship with her.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone here cares to hear about emotional attachments of personal life.

But more importantly, assigning morality of casual sex between 2 consenting adults in the setting of the prostitution scene seems like an inconsistent, subjective, and inappropriate use of morality. I'm sure the majority of the world, if forced to choose, would say that consensual unpaid sex with a woman who works as sex worker has moral superiority to men who pay women for sex. Not saying those opinion matters but definitely pointing out the ridiculous application of morality in this instance.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2893165]Balabalabala, no one care about your unsubstantiated, paranoid and insidious assertions.

After all, FKK clubs provide relaxed and enjoyable environments for 99% mongers.[/QUOTE]I agree with the second statement.

Otherwise, nothing insidious or paranoid in anyway as I already directly accused, exclaimed, supported by substance as directly quoted by your direct words. Pride, competitiveness, stalker tendency.

If my words seemed insidious, no, let me remove all doubt. They were direct criticisms using measured words. It's called the language of subtlety. Perhaps not easily detected by those for whom English is a second language.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2892960]I agree, make-up sex" with a crazy girl can be really special).

But I don't agree with your no competition" mongers and pimp / fuckboy.

I guess you started fuck arianna by paying her, and then you become her boyfriend". Right?

Also that morally very questionable, if you only use her to fuck her for free.

Unless you really wanted a normal relationship with her.[/QUOTE]So funny, how on 2017 , as a medical but projecting for life with her, when she was so crazy, really not wow for look, when many might fuck her AO, when she lost so much control in foreplay and sex.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2893263]So funny, how on 2017 , as a medical but projecting for life with her. .[/QUOTE]Ariana worked in medical field? Was she ever work as a nurse as Mara did?

At least 10 WGs I met at Sharks during past few years claimed they were either nurses or Pharmacists or similar fields students in Romania, to hint they practiced safe behaviors.

Hi,

We are to guys travelling til Frankfurt, first of all to check out FKK Sharks. But we would also like to see Frankfurt. Would anyone be so kind to recommend at budget-friendly hotel? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2893322]Ariana worked in medical field? Was she ever work as a nurse as Mara did?

At least 10 WGs I met at Sharks during past few years claimed they were either nurses or Pharmacists or similar fields students in Romania, to hint they practiced safe behaviors.[/QUOTE]He works in medical, but fucking AO one of the craziest ever. Claimings from guys and WGs don't mean truth. Megan claimed so much to be single, but not sure at all.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2893219]I don't think anyone here cares to hear about emotional attachments of personal life.

But more importantly, assigning morality of casual sex between 2 consenting adults in the setting of the prostitution scene seems like an inconsistent, subjective, and inappropriate use of morality. I'm sure the majority of the world, if forced to choose, would say that consensual unpaid sex with a woman who works as sex worker has moral superiority to men who pay women for sex. Not saying those opinion matters but definitely pointing out the ridiculous application of morality in this instance.[/QUOTE]For AO sex, a normal woman, or at least a quite exclusive, very part timer is much more enjoyable for me than one of the craziest WG, just matter of quality standard. Real beauty is also more exciting for me, when really not among the prettiest.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2893322]At least 10 WGs I met at Sharks during past few years claimed they were either nurses or Pharmacists or similar fields students in Romania, to hint they practiced safe behaviors.[/QUOTE]Since you are on the subject of Ariana and pharmacists, it reminds me of one of my favourites at that time (2015/16) called Tatiana, who normally sat close to Ariana. Tatiana claimed to be studying Chemistry in order to become a Pharmacist. At that time, I was toggling between Ariana and Titania, and also Mia when she was present. Both Ariana and Mia were fiery girls. And once, Mia went to complain to the management to try to get Ariana kicked out when Ariana came over and kissed me when I was talking to Mia!
Tatiana later became difficult to get as she had long bookings with an East Asian (either Japanese or Chinese American) and sometimes an Indian.

Recently had my first visit to Sharks since last summer. My favorite change was the water (still and sparkling) dispensers by the dining area and by the sauna. These are very useful to me and I was happy to be able to self-serve my own water instead of waiting at the bar for the worst bar staff on the planet to serve me.

I enjoyed sessions with girls I've enjoyed over the years including Renata and Esther. I've always considered Esther a top stunner in terms of optics, even if she's taller than I usually go for and even if I preferred her before silicone. She could definitely be a successful model. Also had a go with a relatively new German girl, LaLeigh. Her GFE was top notch and the session was passionate, It felt like she really enjoyed her job and wanted to get off just as much as I did. Great banter too. I still consider Sharks the best club in all of FKK / Saunaclub land.

[QUOTE=HoMan;2893389]Hi,

We are to guys travelling til Frankfurt, first of all to check out FKK Sharks. But we would also like to see Frankfurt. Would anyone be so kind to recommend at budget-friendly hotel? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hotel Dormero is 5 mn walking, also Contel.

Past Ariana with saggy tits from her child, arrived at Sharks on end of February 2016. Maybe because her guy left, but she was very possessive and passionate, but not the only one.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2893661]Since you are on the subject of Ariana and pharmacists, it reminds me of one of my favourites at that time (2015/16) called Tatiana, who normally sat close to Ariana. Tatiana claimed to be studying Chemistry in order to become a Pharmacist. At that time, I was toggling between Ariana and Titania, and also Mia when she was present. Both Ariana and Mia were fiery girls. And once, Mia went to complain to the management to try to get Ariana kicked out when Ariana came over and kissed me when I was talking to Mia!
Tatiana later became difficult to get as she had long bookings with an East Asian (either Japanese or Chinese American) and sometimes an Indian.[/QUOTE]Tatiana was one of the few girls who was actually truthful regarding the "I'm a student" story. She had a few regulars but the client you speak of can actually verify her story. I spent time with the two of them outside of the club with Ariana and can also endorse the veracity of Tatiana's background story. While Tatiana was never my type, I never felt any type of way about that guy's taste in women / hooker girlfriend. Tatiana was a "well behaved" type of girl, a type many men desire. She was like water, adapting to the shape of the vessel. That type of girl is easily palatable for many men because she does not challenge them. That's the type of woman who makes a fine hooker, making men feel secure, validated, and desired, a "well behaved woman. " She makes them feel validated and assuages insecurities, something that every man, every human, feels. As a monger, I enjoy those girls myself; afterall, these girls are being paid. So why pay to have to earn a girl's respect? You're paying, that should be enough right? But while I am a monger, without shame or ego paying for easy pussy and fantasy with girls who may not look twice at me in public, I also enjoy a more fiery type of woman.

Girls who are more fire require someone to ground them. If pairing with a man, they need strength and security to tame that sort of energy. My hooker girlfriend always said to me, "you are like fresh air, you make me feel peace. " That is because these type of women are naturally wild, but with the right sort of man, they become calm. On the other hand, if you combine that type of woman with an flighty and insecure man, a wind element that floats around without purpose, those guys only bring out the worst in them. Like if you add air to a flame, it makes the flame more out of control. That's a bad pair. But match with a strong grounding type, and the flame is tamed. Girls like Tatiana were more like water. They're fluid. They can change to the shape of their container making great escorts for the average man. Girls like Ariana are more fire. Adding a watery man destroys their energy. Adding a weak man who blows around like the wind without purpose makes the fire more uncontrolled and unpredictable. But add grounding strength and they become tamed. A man can ascertain what type of man he is by observing his effect around strong women.

Women are often complex and insecure. A man with insecurity reinforces their destructive energy. There are girls like fluid Tatiana, and there are girls like fiery Ariana. Fluid Tatiana was great for most mongers. Only men with strength were able to control fiery Ariana. She was the type of girl that scared off weak men.

Please someone, what is the name of the Moldavian girl with black hair. She studied in Russia before. She doesn't speak German. She was on the 14th February in the club. She looked so beautiful and she was very polite in the room. Did anybody meet her?

Please someone, what's the name of a black hair girl from Moldova? She studied in Russia before. She doesn't speak German, but she is very beautiful and nice. She was in the club on the 14th February. Did someone meet her?

Escape Artist,

You describe their characters beautifully and very accurately.

Just to end my story. After the face-off between Ariana and Mia, I was told by Mia that I must not go with Ariana again. Comparing Mia's well-toned body with Ariana's saggy tits, I opted for Mia and laid off Ariana.

But even with Tatiana unattainable, 2016/17 turned out to be good years for me as Mandy and Marlyn appeared on the scene. Most of the money I spent in Sharks in those 2 years went to these 3 'M's. And it conveniently turned out that Mia, Marlyn, and Mandy also partnered each other for threesomes! For variety, I also had Ada (the very skinny one) and Janine. And all these at 50/30 or 100/60 or 200/60 for a threesome.

Good days are gone! Since then, I have not found a stable group of core girls at reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=Jfht65;2893928]Please someone, what's the name of a black hair girl from Moldova? She studied in Russia before. She doesn't speak German, but she is very beautiful and nice. She was in the club on the 14th February. Did someone meet her?[/QUOTE]Then, she must speak Russian, when low level for foreign languages in Russia.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2893947]Good days are gone! Since then, I have not found a stable group of core girls at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]I agree. I think some recent posts have led me to accept that Sharks / Hessen area big clubs are done for mongers looking to experience the better days again. I did finally submitted to the former 100 e first half then 50 e for each additional half hour price hike despite a lesser quality of girls. Since the ensuing price hike, my Sharks attendance pattern has been that I only go when a regular is confirmed to be present. Then I take a chance with one of the newer girls which usually turns out to be a dud. With 200/ HR being the latest set point, I refuse knowing paying double than the price for equally great girls at other clubs is just silly. With some girls still taking 150 e for the hour, I found the quality has been a heaping trash pile. I purposely leave myself open for a girl to convince me to come back every day to take 2 rooms a day with her or even just a really long room, but not one new Sharks girl since pandemic reopening rivals what the girls were able to do back in the days you speak. Valentina who was there last summer came close. She was one of the last great finds prior to the current optic fuck club Sharks has become. If I eventually give up hope that an FKK could recreate those former good vibes, I suppose that visiting Sharks for 3 half hour optic fucks wouldn't be a terrible day at all. However that would be a much diminished experience from the days I would easily spend 500-700 euro per day doing an optic fuck or two, an hour room or two, and an additional longer room. Spending 1000 euro in two days at Sharks used to be an easy decision because you could leave feeling like a sexual god king. Now spending 500 e in a day at Sharks makes me feel like a college kid going to an overpriced trendy Las Vegas night club.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2893947]Escape Artist,

You describe their characters beautifully and very accurately.

Just to end my story. After the face-off between Ariana and Mia, I was told by Mia that I must not go with Ariana again. Comparing Mia's well-toned body with Ariana's saggy tits, I opted for Mia and laid off Ariana.

But even with Tatiana unattainable, 2016/17 turned out to be good years for me as Mandy and Marlyn appeared on the scene. Most of the money I spent in Sharks in those 2 years went to these 3 'M's. And it conveniently turned out that Mia, Marlyn, and Mandy also partnered each other for threesomes! For variety, I also had Ada (the very skinny one) and Janine. And all these at 50/30 or 100/60 or 200/60 for a threesome.

Good days are gone! Since then, I have not found a stable group of core girls at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]So lost when she arrived, very fresh for this, but not pretty enough and limited vagina after 4/5 1 hour rooms. After few weeks, she did target easier Asian business for her vagina, after I chose Megan who didn't like her after only 2 weeks, when I asked Megan to help her when Ariana just arrived. When I didn't go with Megan when she turned blond for Asian business, nevertheless, when she was harassed by a daily at Sharks, she followed my information and moved to Globe, where she was first refused on February, but returned on April 2017, not easy for her there when she was in reserve team for months, but she escaped and always told me she was happy she moved, but not same magic for me, less fresh in grey blond. Funny, she ran very few Asians at Globe, like she learned at Sharks, when she told me she didn't like, at her start, telling about making hole in paper not to swallow the Bush, she was funny explaining.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2893947]Escape Artist,

You describe their characters beautifully and very accurately.

Just to end my story. After the face-off between Ariana and Mia, I was told by Mia that I must not go with Ariana again. Comparing Mia's well-toned body with Ariana's saggy tits, I opted for Mia and laid off Ariana.

But even with Tatiana unattainable, 2016/17 turned out to be good years for me as Mandy and Marlyn appeared on the scene. Most of the money I spent in Sharks in those 2 years went to these 3 'M's. And it conveniently turned out that Mia, Marlyn, and Mandy also partnered each other for threesomes! For variety, I also had Ada (the very skinny one) and Janine. And all these at 50/30 or 100/60 or 200/60 for a threesome.

Good days are gone! Since then, I have not found a stable group of core girls at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]I always thought Mandy was overrated though. She probably reserved her best service for specific clients.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2893745]Recently had my first visit to Sharks since last summer. My favorite change was the water (still and sparkling) dispensers by the dining area and by the sauna. These are very useful to me and I was happy to be able to self-serve my own water instead of waiting at the bar for the worst bar staff on the planet to serve me.

I enjoyed sessions with girls I've enjoyed over the years including Renata and Esther. I've always considered Esther a top stunner in terms of optics, even if she's taller than I usually go for and even if I preferred her before silicone. She could definitely be a successful model. Also had a go with a relatively new German girl, LaLeigh. Her GFE was top notch and the session was passionate, It felt like she really enjoyed her job and wanted to get off just as much as I did. Great banter too. I still consider Sharks the best club in all of FKK / Saunaclub land.[/QUOTE]Wow! Esther is still around? What a trooper! She was there the last time I visited Sharks which was the last day before they closed due to covid in February, 2020. Unfortunately, I have no interest in her post boob and lip augmentation.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2894029]I always thought Mandy was overrated though. She probably reserved her best service for specific clients.[/QUOTE]She really tried to please, but not pretty enough to make me dream, but really lovely.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2893973]I agree. I think some recent posts have led me to accept that Sharks / Hessen area big clubs are done for mongers looking to experience the better days again. I did finally submitted to the former 100 e first half then 50 e for each additional half hour price hike despite a lesser quality of girls. Since the ensuing price hike, my Sharks attendance pattern has been that I only go when a regular is confirmed to be present. Then I take a chance with one of the newer girls which usually turns out to be a dud. With 200/ HR being the latest set point, I refuse knowing paying double than the price for equally great girls at other clubs is just silly. With some girls still taking 150 e for the hour, I found the quality has been a heaping trash pile. I purposely leave myself open for a girl to convince me to come back every day to take 2 rooms a day with her or even just a really long room, but not one new Sharks girl since pandemic reopening rivals what the girls were able to do back in the days you speak. Valentina who was there last summer came close. She was one of the last great finds prior to the current optic fuck club Sharks has become. If I eventually give up hope that an FKK could recreate those former good vibes, I suppose that visiting Sharks for 3 half hour optic fucks wouldn't be a terrible day at all. However that would be a much diminished experience from the days I would easily spend 500-700 euro per day doing an optic fuck or two, an hour room or two, and an additional longer room. Spending 1000 euro in two days at Sharks used to be an easy decision because you could leave feeling like a sexual god king. Now spending 500 e in a day at Sharks makes me feel like a college kid going to an overpriced trendy Las Vegas night club.[/QUOTE]You are not regular enough to really know. On May / June, a rare full fresh snow white German part timer for 150/60 on discovery, extended to 200/85 for weekly pleasure after, competing with Germans who proposed her thousands and locals.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2894033]Wow! Esther is still around? What a trooper! She was there the last time I visited Sharks which was the last day before they closed due to covid in February, 2020. Unfortunately, I have no interest in her post boob and lip augmentation.[/QUOTE]Yes, Esther was present during almost all of my many visits to Sharks the whole of last year. She is one of the few who remain totally naked, and she poses on the armrest of the couch facing the dance pole. Does not seem to get many customers.

In 2022, she worked behind the bar.

[blue][Unannotated link deleted by Admin][/blue][QUOTE=Sirioja;2893964]Then, she must speak Russian, when low level for foreign languages in Russia.[/QUOTE]I've got her name. She is Anastasia. Great girl with natural tits, without tattoos and tan. Her English is not worse than most Germans, not to mention most Romanian girls.

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[QUOTE]You are not regular enough to really know. On May / June, a rare full fresh snow white German part timer for 150/60 on discovery, extended to 200/85 for weekly pleasure after, competing with Germans who proposed her thousands and locals.[/QUOTE]Well that doesn't quite make sense as my assessment of Sharks has been the exact same as yours, overpriced for poor service. I also mentioned the last great find for me was Valentina last summer, exactly the same time as your "German Snow White. " It seems that a comment such as this is contrarian for personal reasons rather than a logical one. Just like this phrase "quantity does not mean quality," the same goes for the reliability of various opinions. The logic here is if my assessment is not accurate, then neither is yours. So unless you are saying Sharks was anything better than underwhelming, then the statement above seems to be emotionally charged contrarianism rather than a reliable and authentic statement.

[QUOTE=Jfht65;2894138]I've got her name. She is Anastasia. Great girl with natural tits, without tattoos and tan. Her English is not worse than most Germans, not to mention most Romanian girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, this new Anastasia has a nice slim body and a pretty angular face. Tried her last October. Decent English. Decent room. 100/30. I told her that I was surprised that she was allowed to use this name as the old Anastasia was still around in summer. New Anastasia's body shape is about the same as old Anastasia, except that her face is much prettier. I found old Anastasia’s lips too large to tolerate!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2893947]Good days are gone! Since then, I have not found a stable group of core girls at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]
I never saw the good days 10-15 years ago of the German FKKs. But I can speak from a global mongering perspective and I agree, the service is getting worse, the women are getting uglier, fatter, with more tattoos and more silicone, and the prices are getting higher.

I have become far more picky and selective with who I choose now, because the overall trend just keeps getting worse.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2894227]I never saw the good days 10-15 years ago of the German FKKs. But I can speak from a global mongering perspective and I agree, the service is getting worse, the women are getting uglier, fatter, with more tattoos and more silicone, and the prices are getting higher. I have become far more picky and selective with who I choose now, because the overall trend just keeps getting worse.[/QUOTE]I see so many young ladies these day who have ruined their bodies with the ugliest of tattoos. Also repulsive "duck lips" and oversized "sillycones". It's all such a turnoff. And such a shame!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2894029]I always thought Mandy was overrated though. She probably reserved her best service for specific clients.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. I wasn't a "regular" of hers and her service was always spectacular. I remember one time she told me she can only stay 1 hour with me that day because one of her actual regulars booked her for the rest of the day. She always had a great attitude, always seeking to please. The first session I had with her in Nov 2016, I throat pied her 4 times in 1 hour and she didn't even try / pretend to spit. All yummy in her tummy. Cleaned me up nicely. She wasn't a stunner by any measures but she was cute.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2892688]I heard betty was fucked AO at sharks.[/QUOTE]This is true, but I don't think it was that exclusive.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2894227]I never saw the good days 10-15 years ago of the German FKKs. [/QUOTE]I got into it at the literal end of 2012. For me, Dec 2012 might actually be the peak. It was all slowly, slowly down hill till covid, then it fell off a cliff.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2894227]I never saw the good days 10-15 years ago of the German FKKs. But I can speak from a global mongering perspective and I agree, the service is getting worse, the women are getting uglier, fatter, with more tattoos and more silicone, and the prices are getting higher.

I have become far more picky and selective with who I choose now, because the overall trend just keeps getting worse.[/QUOTE]Level of most Romanians and at Sharks fell, more expensive for lower quality, but I m happy when I still find girls on same level than my best before covid, and for 150/60+, less expensive than at Sharks where so many bad values, when 150/60+ is less expensive and higher quality than 100/30, for me.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2894155]Well that doesn't quite make sense as my assessment of Sharks has been the exact same as yours, overpriced for poor service. I also mentioned the last great find for me was Valentina last summer, exactly the same time as your "German Snow White. " It seems that a comment such as this is contrarian for personal reasons rather than a logical one. Just like this phrase "quantity does not mean quality," the same goes for the reliability of various opinions. The logic here is if my assessment is not accurate, then neither is yours. So unless you are saying Sharks was anything better than underwhelming, then the statement above seems to be emotionally charged contrarianism rather than a reliable and authentic statement.[/QUOTE]I agree for many bad values now at Sharks, but since end of 2022, I had exceptional Jasmin. De from Bavaria, Lora. FR for her beauty and GFE freshness and so rare, part timer snow white. De, all for several rooms, till June, but the big fall since then. But so professional Valentina who got almost no business after only few weeks, turning around, is not at all on same level. When they are used to Germans and locals, some German beauties are the easiest for like in RTC, when they are so surprised by new way in bed.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2894264]I see so many young ladies these day who have ruined their bodies with the ugliest of tattoos. Also repulsive "duck lips" and oversized "sillycones". It's all such a turnoff. And such a shame![/QUOTE]Looks like normal woman worth more expensive than porn silicon, tattooed, pierced looks, for me. I don't go with silicon, or pierced on face, or nipples, or clit, when I'm so excited when I see a natural beauty looking like a natural woman can see outside. I also hate eagle nails, but love French manicure, just normal.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2894347]I got into it at the literal end of 2012. For me, Dec 2012 might actually be the peak. It was all slowly, slowly down hill till covid, then it fell off a cliff.[/QUOTE]Sharks was only a small club with not more than 40 girls till 2014, behind Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace, but improved on 2015. I was sometimes told 200 girls on end of 2016 and 2017. Since covid, I had 6 great girls at Sharks, 5 I repeated many times, 4 for around 10 hours, only Sofi. De l didn't repeat, but only because 200/60, when I really loved with her, when 30 mn is too short to really enjoy her potential for sex. For 150/60, she would have had me many times. Except Lora. FR, I never saw any at Sharks worth 200/60, compare to German escorts, when can have higher level than at Sharks for 150/60 , when lower looks asking more and more expensive at Sharks.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2894340]I don't think so. I wasn't a "regular" of hers and her service was always spectacular. I remember one time she told me she can only stay 1 hour with me that day because one of her actual regulars booked her for the rest of the day. She always had a great attitude, always seeking to please. The first session I had with her in Nov 2016, I throat pied her 4 times in 1 hour and she didn't even try / pretend to spit. All yummy in her tummy. Cleaned me up nicely. She wasn't a stunner by any measures but she was cute.[/QUOTE]I agree for real will to please for small fake blond Mandy. De, really lovely, just not attractive enough to excite me. She made you finishing 4 times in her mouth in 1 hour? When I don't remember she could ever finish me. So few FKK girls are skillful for BJ, sometimes I prefer to skip because killing my mood when feeling so low level. I prefer to make them cum on DATY, quite easy with most I choose, then usually they say: thank You, now your turn, but I prefer to fuck than low level BJ. Sena friend is one of the rare really skillful experienced at Sharks. BJ is not so important for me, when I didn't ask, even refusing, with my girlfriends and best sex for me is same model I was used at home.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2894340]I don't think so. I wasn't a "regular" of hers and her service was always spectacular. I remember one time she told me she can only stay 1 hour with me that day because one of her actual regulars booked her for the rest of the day. She always had a great attitude, always seeking to please. The first session I had with her in Nov 2016, I throat pied her 4 times in 1 hour and she didn't even try / pretend to spit. All yummy in her tummy. Cleaned me up nicely. She wasn't a stunner by any measures but she was cute.[/QUOTE]For sure, that's a near universal opinion. She was an example of what FKK girls should offer. She wasn't my preferred optics and would even say her stellar service was also not my ideal style, but can agree that she was premium quality. For me she was a little too short with too much baby fat and she kissed a little too much, even coming from a guy who thinks kissing is fundamental in making an ideal room.

Cumming 4 times in one hour? Wow. That's a testament to both you and her. Consider me impressed!

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2894227]I never saw the good days 10-15 years ago of the German FKKs. But I can speak from a global mongering perspective and I agree, the service is getting worse, the women are getting uglier, fatter, with more tattoos and more silicone, and the prices are getting higher.

I have become far more picky and selective with who I choose now, because the overall trend just keeps getting worse.[/QUOTE]I was there since 2008 and think a lot of it is nostalgia. The one big pro of that time was having more variety. Romanians were still the most numerous and there were more Germans. And perhaps up to 25 percent were from other nations, probably a little less. EU work permits took away the Non-EU girls. 2017 took away a significant number of Germans, leaving us with 90-95% Romanians. That is unfortunate but from an optics plus total service point of view, I think 2015-2017 were my favorite years. That is much due to the rise of Sharks. Oase also had a premium optical line up at the same time. During that time, Sharks was a special place for fresh, slim 20-25 year old girls who competed with each other for your business. I can't recall a period where there were so many fresh girls giving you an authentic experience in the room. They also took on the strategy of making their business a 24/7 job. There were so many fresh girls asking for your WhatsApp and social media so they could keep you hooked. And if you played the game right, you were getting base rate, full service, fuck me like you're impregnating me sex. Meanwhile upsell at Oase and as still manageable, offering more polished girls who offered crush my pussy sex. I will say that I missed the clubs from mid 2012 to mid 2015 so there is a window where I miss what several said were peak Oase years. Of course, Golden Time had a nice long decade run of premium service for fair price with upper-middle tier to lower-top tier optics. There was also the legendary Atlantis that closed before my time, perhaps closing around 2005-2006. When I first started, the senior mongers made it sound like the greatest gathering of Europe's best sex workers ever. I don't personally know and would have to assume that bit of that was enhanced by nostalgic, rose colored glasses.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2894611]She made you finishing 4 times in her mouth in 1 hour? When I don't remember she could ever finish me.[/QUOTE]Only happens when I first session with a new girl. Especially if she is young and willing. Harder to finish with the same girl after a few more rooms usually, sometimes when I go with my "regulars" I just finish a couple times for the whole day. I think I blew 2 loads in Kate from GT within the first 15 minutes of our first session. LOL.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2894742]Only happens when I first session with a new girl. Especially if she is young and willing. Harder to finish with the same girl after a few more rooms usually, sometimes when I go with my "regulars" I just finish a couple times for the whole day. I think I blew 2 loads in Kate from GT within the first 15 minutes of our first session. LOL.[/QUOTE]2016 Kate was a cock gobbler. I remember the first room with her where she just got returned from Italy with a super dark tan. It was like fucking Pocahontas. Crazy to imagine that she is now over 30 years old.

Not counting 3 hour rooms with a few of my all time regulars, I don't usually like to finish twice with the same girl in a one hour session. Kate was one of the few girls with whom I allowed for it to happen. Ironic that her club coworker Hanna at the original Acapulco Velbert was another one. I mean, 2 nuts for 80 e with primo girls was the best. But kinda funny now that I've let it happen twice more in the last few months. Writing this out, I'm realizing that it most often happens in the cheaper NRW clubs. Perhaps I get just get turned on by getting a good deal, LOL.

Also strange that I had a rare room with 3 pops in 90 minutes 2 months ago. Adding the next day, it was a super rare 6 pops in 24 hours whirlwind. Again, that happened at cheaper NRW clubs. There must be something to that because these days, 3 finishes throughout an entire day can be a struggle.

Anyway, none of that compares to 4 blowjob finishes in one hour.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2894611]I agree for real will to please for small fake blond Mandy. De, really lovely, just not attractive enough to excite me. She made you finishing 4 times in her mouth in 1 hour? When I don't remember she could ever finish me. So few FKK girls are skillful for BJ, sometimes I prefer to skip because killing my mood when feeling so low level. I prefer to make them cum on DATY, quite easy with most I choose, then usually they say: thank You, now your turn, but I prefer to fuck than low level BJ. Sena friend is one of the rare really skillful experienced at Sharks. BJ is not so important for me, when I didn't ask, even refusing, with my girlfriends and best sex for me is same model I was used at home.[/QUOTE]Mandy from Stuttgart was top. But I'm not sure if it was the drive back and forth every day, but some of that time would have been better spent at the gym. She started on top, but fell a bit. Then again, most guys cannot complain about such things. At least her mentality was superb even if some of us also go for the looks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2894811]Mandy from Stuttgart was top. But I'm not sure if it was the drive back and forth every day, but some of that time would have been better spent at the gym. She started on top, but fell a bit. Then again, most guys cannot complain about such things. At least her mentality was superb even if some of us also go for the looks.[/QUOTE]A far I remember, she didn't return to sleep in Stuttgart. I got higher level Germans, one asking me weekly to return to her, when she was so busy. When I find level of Romanians really fell and now I will only go with Romanians who are very woman type, but I find new Germans improved, when I won't pay more expensive for average dacia than for audi.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2894790]2016 Kate was a cock gobbler. I remember the first room with her where she just got returned from Italy with a super dark tan. It was like fucking Pocahontas. Crazy to imagine that she is now over 30 years old.

Not counting 3 hour rooms with a few of my all time regulars, I don't usually like to finish twice with the same girl in a one hour session. Kate was one of the few girls with whom I allowed for it to happen. Ironic that her club coworker Hanna at the original Acapulco Velbert was another one. I mean, 2 nuts for 80 e with primo girls was the best. But kinda funny now that I've let it happen twice more in the last few months. Writing this out, I'm realizing that it most often happens in the cheaper NRW clubs. Perhaps I get just get turned on by getting a good deal, LOL.

Also strange that I had a rare room with 3 pops in 90 minutes 2 months ago. Adding the next day, it was a super rare 6 pops in 24 hours whirlwind. Again, that happened at cheaper NRW clubs. There must be something to that because these days, 3 finishes throughout an entire day can be a struggle.

Anyway, none of that compares to 4 blowjob finishes in one hour.[/QUOTE]Yea, usually most girls can't get me to finish in under 30 minutes. However, the ones that can, I call them "assassins. " These were titles for the elite girls. Yet, I remember back in 2014 in Artemis I met this Polish or Czech (body builder. She was fking jacked with decent sized bolt-ONS and probably way over 30 while I was still a young 24. She's 100% not my type or taste but I was young and curious. Oh boy I've never been that curious since, she really beat the nut out of me. She was literally flexing her biceps while blowing me, then she rode me reverse cowgirl while flexing her whole back muscles with both her biceps. And she was squeezing her pussy the whole time too. It literally felt like my dick was going to get snapped off by this Greek marble statue of a woman. If I were to guess, it was probably the closest experience to having sex with a man. I think I finished 3 or 4 times with her in 1 hour too, but it was a such a surreal experience that to this day I'm not sure what exactly happened. Just few flashing moments that'll stick with me forever. She is the only assassin to finish me under 30 minutes that I didn't ever want to repeat with again. With some assassins I didn't get the luxury of choice to repeat with again, but with her. No way. LOL!

Sometimes I think about writing some sort of "cumzo manifesto. " It's been some wild sht. It's been so long that most of these girls are way out of this industry to ever be effected by it. I'll probably post it whenever I get to it.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2894742]Only happens when I first session with a new girl. Especially if she is young and willing. Harder to finish with the same girl after a few more rooms usually, sometimes when I go with my "regulars" I just finish a couple times for the whole day. I think I blew 2 loads in Kate from GT within the first 15 minutes of our first session. LOL.[/QUOTE]Until Ramadam 2017 , she was at Velbert since 2 years. I loved how she played woman with me and I loved her honey and doggy with her ass up and head in shit with her hands pushing bed head, but she was not really skillful for BJ for me. Same like Mandy, she could have sucked me for 10 hours and I would never finish. When she made her nose, after her back, in Bruggen and could hardly breathe, I skipped BJ and not so big miss. I started for 40 € with her on 2015 , when some gave her more than 1000 at Bruggen. Funny, she told: the longest booking, the less sex, but drinking, smoking, speaking. She was lovely, about 80 rooms with her, like was also Megan, but I get 3 higher levels at the moment and since a while and 2 Germans I was informed about, to discover and for less expensive than expensive dacia at Sharks and some at Oase. Funny, the best quality is not for the most expensive now in FKK land, when Germany still have high potential for me with 3 on my best ever level and 2 new targets. I need more free time for this potential.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2895616]Until Ramadam 2017 , she was at Velbert since 2 years. I loved how she played woman with me and I loved her honey and doggy with her ass up and head in shit with her hands pushing bed head, but she was not really skillful for BJ for me. Same like Mandy, she could have sucked me for 10 hours and I would never finish. When she made her nose, after her back, in Bruggen and could hardly breathe, I skipped BJ and not so big miss. I started for 40 with her on 2015 , when some gave her more than 1000 at Bruggen. Funny, she told: the longest booking, the less sex, but drinking, smoking, speaking. She was lovely, about 80 rooms with her, like was also Megan, but I get 3 higher levels at the moment and since a while and 2 Germans I was informed about, to discover and for less expensive than expensive dacia at Sharks and some at Oase. Funny, the best quality is not for the most expensive now in FKK land, when Germany still have high potential for me with 3 on my best ever level and 2 new targets. I need more free time for this potential.[/QUOTE]Bed sheet. I also loved following her in stairs, looking at her ass for starting foreplay, when I took Alaska, or Orient, or Champagne key, for better rooms than at Bruggen.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2894207]Yes, this new Anastasia has a nice slim body and a pretty angular face. Tried her last October. Decent English. Decent room. 100/30. I told her that I was surprised that she was allowed to use this name as the old Anastasia was still around in summer. New Anastasia's body shape is about the same as old Anastasia, except that her face is much prettier. I found old Anastasias lips too large to tolerate![/QUOTE]Is she with black hair? She looks like Selena Gomez. Very beautiful. And she is very popular among men. It's very difficult to catch her.

I've been silent for while now because I have been using two SBs for satisfying my needs lately, particularly in overnight meets. You can't beat a good morning BJ! However, I will be in Sharks at the beginning of March and, although it does not sound to be much value for money, I'm excited to be back to what once was my favourite FKK place. The current rates that some girls are asking at Sharks worry me as they are now close to high end escorts rates. So I will be more selective than usual, if that's the case. I'm sure I won't recognise many girls anymore, except for some veterans that still seem to hit the floor at Sharks, like Esther and Brenda. I will obviously post a report. Nice to be back contributing to this forum!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2896500]I've been silent for while now because I have been using two SBs for satisfying my needs lately, particularly in overnight meets. You can't beat a good morning BJ! However, I will be in Sharks at the beginning of March and, although it does not sound to be much value for money, I'm excited to be back to what once was my favourite FKK place. The current rates that some girls are asking at Sharks worry me as they are now close to high end escorts rates. So I will be more selective than usual, if that's the case. I'm sure I won't recognise many girls anymore, except for some veterans that still seem to hit the floor at Sharks, like Esther and Brenda. I will obviously post a report. Nice to be back contributing to this forum![/QUOTE]Many Sharks girls ask escorts rates, but they don t have escort level of look, nor in bed. Many are now bad value for money. Pity for the club, when girls really don t help management.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2896553]Many Sharks girls ask escorts rates, but they don t have escort level of look, nor in bed. Many are now bad value for money. Pity for the club, when girls really don t help management.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I got by reading past messages. I will also go to Zurich later that week (Friday), but it seems they have problems with LU there too.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2896607]Yes, that's what I got by reading past messages. I will also go to Zurich later that week (Friday), but it seems they have problems with LU there too.[/QUOTE]On Friday, more than 50 girls at Globe, but natural beauties are rare now. I find prettier in Germany for 50 per 30 .

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Everybody who knows a bit Globe, knows around 50 girls from Thursday to Saturday, but so long time I didn't dream there, when yesterday, I got a so electric when I touched her, German part timer for 100 , without needing Globe rules, but with my way and she pulled me to go deep inside her.

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Going to be in frankfurt for the first time next week and unfortunately just woke up with a cold sore. Would I Still be able to get in and see girls if I havea cold sore? Ofc I wouldn't kiss anyone but just wanted to know.

[QUOTE=Squirtle202;2897255]Going to be in frankfurt for the first time next week and unfortunately just woke up with a cold sore. Would I Still be able to get in and see girls if I havea cold sore? Ofc I wouldn't kiss anyone but just wanted to know.[/QUOTE]Many girls cough from smoke.

[QUOTE=Squirtle202;2897255]Going to be in frankfurt for the first time next week and unfortunately just woke up with a cold sore. Would I Still be able to get in and see girls if I havea cold sore? Ofc I wouldn't kiss anyone but just wanted to know.[/QUOTE]I doubt the club front desk cares. But come to think of it, I've never seen a guy with a cold sore in the clubs. I've definitely seen girls work with one at other clubs though. But girls also benefit from hiding small sores behind some make up.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2894719]I was there since 2008 and think a lot of it is nostalgia. The one big pro of that time was having more variety. Romanians were still the most numerous and there were more Germans. And perhaps up to 25 percent were from other nations, probably a little less. EU work permits took away the Non-EU girls. 2017 took away a significant number of Germans, leaving us with 90-95% Romanians. That is unfortunate but from an optics plus total service point of view, I think 2015-2017 were my favorite years. That is much due to the rise of Sharks. Oase also had a premium optical line up at the same time. During that time, Sharks was a special place for fresh, slim 20-25 year old girls who competed with each other for your business. I can't recall a period where there were so many fresh girls giving you an authentic experience in the room. They also took on the strategy of making their business a 24/7 job. There were so many fresh girls asking for your WhatsApp and social media so they could keep you hooked. And if you played the game right, you were getting base rate, full service, fuck me like you're impregnating me sex. Meanwhile upsell at Oase and as still manageable, offering more polished girls who offered crush my pussy sex. I will say that I missed the clubs from mid 2012 to mid 2015 so there is a window where I miss what several said were peak Oase years. Of course, Golden Time had a nice long decade run of premium service for fair price with upper-middle tier to lower-top tier optics. There was also the legendary Atlantis that closed before my time, perhaps closing around 2005-2006. When I first started, the senior mongers made it sound like the greatest gathering of Europe's best sex workers ever. I don't personally know and would have to assume that bit of that was enhanced by nostalgic, rose colored glasses.[/QUOTE]This kind of remind my experience. Discovered this forum because I was paying 500 USD / h for OK looking escorts in New York City back in 2015. I thought this was the norm everywhere else. One day ISG forum showed up I was browsing so other website. Read so many reports and posts about Brazil, one month after I landed in Sao Paulo, hired a tour guy from the forum. Pretty awesome guy, he probably had 1000 girl in his life at least. Back then it was like mind blowing for me. Had a great time there, girls were hotter and cheaper. Then he told the stories he had while he was in Germany FKK clubs. It got me wonder so went to the forum and search for FKK. Next thing I know I showed up at Sharks two weeks later.

I was a like kid in the candy store, just seeing all the naked girls walking around, trying to seduce by showing off their tits and giving me fuck me eyes, swimming pool and outside BBQ summer time. This kind of things could only see in the movies. Still remember the first girl caught my eyes was Roxana, tall blond Romanian girl with fake boobs. 50 Euro /30 min for all the girls. I was dreaming and drowing in pussy world. Most of the girls were Romanian, some of them from Moldova, once every while you saw some German girls, back then a girl called Janie if I recall correctly, guys can only go to room with her after she got permission from one of the regular guys there. I only met one Dutch girl for short period of time. Back then service was great, if you decided to spend at least one hour with the girl you even get better service. Every since I manage to come to FKK clubs in Germany at least 6 times every year. Every time staying one week or longer mainly for girls. Since the train system was so great compare to US, I managed to go from Frankfurt to Berlin and explored FKK clubs along the way.

For me, 2018 was the year things starts to go down hill. Sharks start to let more girls in the clubs without any quality control. Clubs could be crowded but you just did not see many girl you could session with. There were still some girls I enjoy. However the kicker was what happened during covid. Girls raised the price, quality of the girls dropped significantly so was the service level. Last year 2023, I was talking to some guys at the club, it was their first time there, they thought it was so awesome. I just laughed and felt bad for them they did not know what they were missing before. I never experienced what was it like back before 2015 in FKK world. Kind of sad and also appreciate the time before covid.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2897620]This kind of remind my experience. Discovered this forum because I was paying 500 USD / h for OK looking escorts in New York City back in 2015. I thought this was the norm everywhere else. One day ISG forum showed up I was browsing so other website. Read so many reports and posts about Brazil, one month after I landed in Sao Paulo, hired a tour guy from the forum. Pretty awesome guy, he probably had 1000 girl in his life at least. Back then it was like mind blowing for me. Had a great time there, girls were hotter and cheaper. Then he told the stories he had while he was in Germany FKK clubs. It got me wonder so went to the forum and search for FKK. Next thing I know I showed up at Sharks two weeks later.

I was a like kid in the candy store, just seeing all the naked girls walking around, trying to seduce by showing off their tits and giving me fuck me eyes, swimming pool and outside BBQ summer time. This kind of things could only see in the movies. Still remember the first girl caught my eyes was Roxana, tall blond Romanian girl with fake boobs. 50 Euro /30 min for all the girls. I was dreaming and drowing in pussy world. Most of the girls were Romanian, some of them from Moldova, once every while you saw some German girls, back then a girl called Janie if I recall correctly, guys can only go to room with her after she got permission from one of the regular guys there. I only met one Dutch girl for short period of time. Back then service was great, if you decided to spend at least one hour with the girl you even get better service. Every since I manage to come to FKK clubs in Germany at least 6 times every year. Every time staying one week or longer mainly for girls. Since the train system was so great compare to US, I managed to go from Frankfurt to Berlin and explored FKK clubs along the way.

For me, 2018 was the year things starts to go down hill. Sharks start to let more girls in the clubs without any quality control. Clubs could be crowded but you just did not see many girl you could session with. There were still some girls I enjoy. However the kicker was what happened during covid. Girls raised the price, quality of the girls dropped significantly so was the service level. Last year 2023, I was talking to some guys at the club, it was their first time there, they thought it was so awesome. I just laughed and felt bad for them they did not know what they were missing before. I never experienced what was it like back before 2015 in FKK world. Kind of sad and also appreciate the time before covid.[/QUOTE]Roxana was with naturals and busy superstar on 2014 , she fell for her business after silicon. You may mean German Janine who sold shoes.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2897620]This kind of remind my experience. Discovered this forum because I was paying 500 USD / h for OK looking escorts in New York City back in 2015. I thought this was the norm everywhere else. One day ISG forum showed up I was browsing so other website. Read so many reports and posts about Brazil, one month after I landed in Sao Paulo, hired a tour guy from the forum. Pretty awesome guy, he probably had 1000 girl in his life at least. Back then it was like mind blowing for me. Had a great time there, girls were hotter and cheaper. Then he told the stories he had while he was in Germany FKK clubs. It got me wonder so went to the forum and search for FKK. Next thing I know I showed up at Sharks two weeks later.

I was a like kid in the candy store, just seeing all the naked girls walking around, trying to seduce by showing off their tits and giving me fuck me eyes, swimming pool and outside BBQ summer time. This kind of things could only see in the movies. Still remember the first girl caught my eyes was Roxana, tall blond Romanian girl with fake boobs. 50 Euro /30 min for all the girls. I was dreaming and drowing in pussy world. Most of the girls were Romanian, some of them from Moldova, once every while you saw some German girls, back then a girl called Janie if I recall correctly, guys can only go to room with her after she got permission from one of the regular guys there. I only met one Dutch girl for short period of time. Back then service was great, if you decided to spend at least one hour with the girl you even get better service. Every since I manage to come to FKK clubs in Germany at least 6 times every year. Every time staying one week or longer mainly for girls. Since the train system was so great compare to US, I managed to go from Frankfurt to Berlin and explored FKK clubs along the way.

For me, 2018 was the year things starts to go down hill. Sharks start to let more girls in the clubs without any quality control. Clubs could be crowded but you just did not see many girl you could session with. There were still some girls I enjoy. However the kicker was what happened during covid. Girls raised the price, quality of the girls dropped significantly so was the service level. Last year 2023, I was talking to some guys at the club, it was their first time there, they thought it was so awesome. I just laughed and felt bad for them they did not know what they were missing before. I never experienced what was it like back before 2015 in FKK world. Kind of sad and also appreciate the time before covid.[/QUOTE]On May / June 2023 , I really enjoyed weekly a so fresh German part timer who was on my best level experienced at Sharks and for 200/85+ . Sofi and Tara are also really excellent, even I don t want to pay 200/60 for Sofi. De. When Sharks level fell since July, but not only Sharks in Hessen and Germany, when I have excellent woman types for 150/60 with a real Russian part timer with so high potential for fucking, I wonder how she can resist to a fucker like me, when she told only once it was really painful, when usually pain and pleasure, but her vagina only work one day per week and many guys don t fuck in room, so I fuck her for others and she return to me as soon she see me, usual for me with my girls. For the record, I was informed about a new German, when I find level of Romanians fell, lower looks and GFE for more expensive, and I wish I can get her for 100/60 . Good point in FKK is best quality is not for the most expensive which is for tourist in mind.

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[QUOTE=RockyV;2896500]I've been silent for while now because I have been using two SBs for satisfying my needs lately, particularly in overnight meets. You can't beat a good morning BJ! However, I will be in Sharks at the beginning of March and, although it does not sound to be much value for money, I'm excited to be back to what once was my favourite FKK place. The current rates that some girls are asking at Sharks worry me as they are now close to high end escorts rates. So I will be more selective than usual, if that's the case. I'm sure I won't recognise many girls anymore, except for some veterans that still seem to hit the floor at Sharks, like Esther and Brenda. I will obviously post a report. Nice to be back contributing to this forum![/QUOTE]Didn't know you were an SB guy. There is an active Seeking thread. Would love for you to post some of your experiences and tips. And other guys if u seek true GFE (meaning the experience not just kissing and BBBJ) Seeking is the best way to get it. Posted a few epic trips and Seeking girls in the thread last few weeks.

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Sharks March 2024. Sigh it's so greedy now. Recent too many girls coming to me "you want room baby?" then demand me 200/60, and unwilling for negotiate. They just walking away when you counter offer. Or girls duo demanding you take them for a scam threesome, and they will not go room honest solo with you. Or now if you negotiate to 150/60, afterward at lockers some girls will making lies on the time room started to try get 200 from you.

The German girls table on left of bar also appears mysterious gone nowadays, and majority of the nicer rumänische girls from years past who was giving great service. Now no longer there. Sharks girls now feeling dreadful to visit in 2024, hoping Sharks management can realize damage these greedy girls have done to their business and fix. I don't want to hear any song by rihanna or fiddycent or mi gente FREEZE ever again.

See you at Oase!

[QUOTE=Jolokia;2898124]Sharks March 2024. Sigh it's so greedy now. Recent too many girls coming to me "you want room baby?" then demand me 200/60, and unwilling for negotiate. They just walking away when you counter offer. Or girls duo demanding you take them for a scam threesome, and they will not go room honest solo with you. Or now if you negotiate to 150/60, afterward at lockers some girls will making lies on the time room started to try get 200 from you.

The German girls table on left of bar also appears mysterious gone nowadays, and majority of the nicer rumnische girls from years past who was giving great service. Now no longer there. Sharks girls now feeling dreadful to visit in 2024, hoping Sharks management can realize damage these greedy girls have done to their business and fix. I don't want to hear any song by rihanna or fiddycent or mi gente FREEZE ever again.

See you at Oase![/QUOTE]Sad when club is good, but why to pay more expensive for only average dacias, but still really good girls in FKK land.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2897683]Roxana was with naturals and busy superstar on 2014 , she fell for her business after silicon. You may mean German Janine who sold shoes.[/QUOTE]Yes, she had naturals in Sharks. Think I first saw her in 2015 then in Palace in 2017 by which time she had got fake knockers which she didn't need as she was blessed with lovely natural breasts but some girls vandalise their bodies (the most egregious example was Ester of Sharks who was naturally stunning especially when her hair was red but went for plastic tits, trout pout and bleached blonde hair. She went from one of the most enticing and gorgeous girls you could hope to meet to a ridiculous caricature of a Romanian hooker.

Roxanna is apparently now plying her trade in theüsseldorf though not sure which club (one of her mates called Jessica with the glasses told me last year). The most gorgeous of their group Ramona (the Scarlett Johansson lookalike but better) sadly long retired.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2898225]Yes, she had naturals in Sharks. Think I first saw her in 2015 then in Palace in 2017 by which time she had got fake knockers which she didn't need as she was blessed with lovely natural breasts but some girls vandalise their bodies (the most egregious example was Ester of Sharks who was naturally stunning especially when her hair was red but went for plastic tits, trout pout and bleached blonde hair. She went from one of the most enticing and gorgeous girls you could hope to meet to a ridiculous caricature of a Romanian hooker.

Roxanna is apparently now plying her trade in thesseldorf though not sure which club (one of her mates called Jessica with the glasses told me last year). The most gorgeous of their group Ramona (the Scarlett Johansson lookalike but better) sadly long retired.[/QUOTE]Roxana put silicon when she was still at Sharks and then lost her business. I saw her at Wellcum on 2017 or 2018 and even with Italians who are really not demanding, but almost no business for her, when many silicon at Wellcum. I agree Ester also didn't need plastic, but these girls watch too much porn. Ramona Sharks moved to Sabina Oase. In bed, I told her: you are prettier than Scarlet Johansson, so she looked at me with her green eyes, smiled and kissed me. I became really allergic to plastic, could never go to super sexy Amy at GG, when no tattoo and would make riot at Sharks or Globe.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2898225]......(the most egregious example was Ester of Sharks who was naturally stunning especially when her hair was red but went for plastic tits, trout pout and bleached blonde hair. She went from one of the most enticing and gorgeous girls you could hope to meet to a ridiculous caricature of a Romanian hooker........[/QUOTE]I remember when Esther was an Asian hunter, I suppose that is no longer the case. Do Asian hunting still take place at Sharks? I have not been there in 4 years.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2898325]I remember when Esther was an Asian hunter, I suppose that is no longer the case. Do Asian hunting still take place at Sharks? I have not been there in 4 years.[/QUOTE]Opinion is that there isn't enough volume of clients to be a viable business model.

Unfortunately the club stays busy during the weekend and I had to wait for a second floor room for 30 minutes on Saturday night. Apparently the customers (German or not) have accepted the new price model. You have to try really hard to find a girl with good service. Oase is no better in my opinion with the same upselling and similar lineup (smaller quantity).

[QUOTE=Jolokia;2898124]Sharks March 2024. Sigh it's so greedy now. Recent too many girls coming to me "you want room baby?" then demand me 200/60, and unwilling for negotiate. They just walking away when you counter offer. Or girls duo demanding you take them for a scam threesome, and they will not go room honest solo with you. Or now if you negotiate to 150/60, afterward at lockers some girls will making lies on the time room started to try get 200 from you.

The German girls table on left of bar also appears mysterious gone nowadays, and majority of the nicer rumnische girls from years past who was giving great service. Now no longer there. Sharks girls now feeling dreadful to visit in 2024, hoping Sharks management can realize damage these greedy girls have done to their business and fix. I don't want to hear any song by rihanna or fiddycent or mi gente FREEZE ever again.

See you at Oase![/QUOTE]

The R bus stop in front of the Darmstadt station has been moved about 50 metres away to a makeshift stop that is not easily identifiable in front of the Kinopolis (cinema).

Its arrival time is also no longer listed in the electronic signboard in the main station, nor at the old bus stop.

So, remember to head straight for the Kinopolis across the mini park.

However, the bus still stops at the old place in front of the station for the return trip.

I had a 10 euro note handy in my pocket ready for the old fare of 9.60 euros.

So, get a 10 cent coin ready if you do want to be saddled with lots of small coins. (The driver gave me 9 X 10 cent coins.).

Was there on 23.02.

Met Joanna (Spanish / Romanian). 50 room, 50 for BBBJ. Nice fuck for 100.

Then, spa / sauna. Met italian. Forgot name. 50 room, 50 CIM. Nice, lay back and shoot load experience.

Net-Net, it works out to 100 EUR experience.

Am I missing aomething? Did not encounter 200/ h.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2898363]Unfortunately the club stays busy during the weekend and I had to wait for a second floor room for 30 minutes on Saturday night. Apparently the customers (German or not) have accepted the new price model. You have to try really hard to find a girl with good service. Oase is no better in my opinion with the same upselling and similar lineup (smaller quantity).[/QUOTE]

Yesterday was my first visit to Sharks this year. It was a typical Tuesday. More girls than men.

There seems to be more Asians; including some probably PRC Chinese talking at the top of their voices for a long time in the locker room.

I did not get past the front couches! I tried a new Lisa there, and later another new very skinny girl called Esma. Both provided good service. 100 for 30.

After I paid Esma, I talked to a very pretty girl coming out of the changing room (not often I meet 3 pretty new girls in a row). When she said she was Ariana, I thought that this might be the Ariana some of the posters here had talked about last year. But she said that she was a Romanian from Constanta. But as is was already late, I had to defer trying her to another day.

I then went back to hotel due to tiredness from my flight, and did not have a chance to see the rest of the playing field. I was planning to go to Oase on Friday, but due to the train strike announced to be happening on Thursday and Friday, I will probably head back to Sharks instead to see what other new girls there are.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2898879]Was there on 23.02.

Met Joanna (Spanish / Romanian). 50 room, 50 for BBBJ. Nice fuck for 100.

Then, spa / sauna. Met italian. Forgot name. 50 room, 50 CIM. Nice, lay back and shoot load experience.

Net-Net, it works out to 100 EUR experience.

Am I missing aomething? Did not encounter 200/ h.[/QUOTE]Your Italian was Sylvana? Can find really pretties in Germany for 100/60 with FK, BBBJ, DATY and fucking.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2898875]I had a 10 euro note handy in my pocket ready for the old fare of 9.60 euros.

So, get a 10 cent coin ready if you do want to be saddled with lots of small coins. (The driver gave me 9 X 10 cent coins.).[/QUOTE]Somehow a paragraph I wrote stating the the new price is 10.10 euros was deleted.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2897834]Didn't know you were an SB guy. There is an active Seeking thread. Would love for you to post some of your experiences and tips. And other guys if u seek true GFE (meaning the experience not just kissing and BBBJ) Seeking is the best way to get it. Posted a few epic trips and Seeking girls in the thread last few weeks.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements[/URL][/QUOTE]I also didn't know I was an SB guy! These two girls were originally escorts that left their agencies for focussing more on their studies and we kept in touch and met several times. I'm about to drop one of them as I've got bored after almost 18 months of banging her, but the other one is still too hot to drop now! I miss the FKK scene, so I'm returning to it gradually, but I find myself to be overly selective with FKK girls. I will contribute with a report to the SB thread soon.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2898245]Ramona Sharks moved to Sabina Oase. In bed, I told her: you are prettier than Scarlet Johansson, so she looked at me with her green eyes, smiled and kissed me.[/QUOTE]My abiding memories of Ramona (and I think I saw her 5 times) are.

- the first time I saw her. It was Wow! I had read on this board about a Scarelet Johansson lookalike but she was much better looking. Obviously whisked her to a room straight away and after a tender one hour finished straddling her and cumming over her face with a big dollop on her eyes. Was a mistake but she saw the funny side.

Having her as a part of a 4 girl oil orgy with one of the other girls who was a gorgeous brunette piling up Ramona's tits which she obviously enjoyed.

Seeing her at Oase as Sabina. Had a threesome with one of her friends (big fitted Lori) and had the. Lez up. Watching her eat another girl's pussy was a delight.

Anyway time to plan a summer Frankfurt trip and create some new memories!

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2899676]My abiding memories of Ramona (and I think I saw her 5 times) are.

- the first time I saw her. It was Wow! I had read on this board about a Scarelet Johansson lookalike but she was much better looking. Obviously whisked her to a room straight away and after a tender one hour finished straddling her and cumming over her face with a big dollop on her eyes. Was a mistake but she saw the funny side.

Having her as a part of a 4 girl oil orgy with one of the other girls who was a gorgeous brunette piling up Ramona's tits which she obviously enjoyed.

Seeing her at Oase as Sabina. Had a threesome with one of her friends (big fitted Lori) and had the. Lez up. Watching her eat another girl's pussy was a delight.

Anyway time to plan a summer Frankfurt trip and create some new memories![/QUOTE]Funny, I have pleasure making cumming girls I chose and who worth, sometimes working nearly 1 hour, when most guys prefer to CIM or CIF or on tits. Normal, girls say I m different, most returning, some asking for again and saying thank You.

[QUOTE=Jolokia;2898124]Sharks March 2024. Sigh it's so greedy now. Recent too many girls coming to me "you want room baby?" then demand me 200/60, and unwilling for negotiate. They just walking away when you counter offer. Or girls duo demanding you take them for a scam threesome, and they will not go room honest solo with you. Or now if you negotiate to 150/60, afterward at lockers some girls will making lies on the time room started to try get 200 from you.

The German girls table on left of bar also appears mysterious gone nowadays, and majority of the nicer rumnische girls from years past who was giving great service. Now no longer there. Sharks girls now feeling dreadful to visit in 2024, hoping Sharks management can realize damage these greedy girls have done to their business and fix. I don't want to hear any song by rihanna or fiddycent or mi gente FREEZE ever again.
[/QUOTE]As you stated, a lot of these women are scammers anyway so there's no need to make a 60 minute commitment, so I only book for 30 minutes. Unless its Brenda or a German.

Additionally, yes, I've seen the scam threesome tactic one before. Its another sad tactic that degrades the FKK experience when you're just trying to pick who you want. If the German table and German girls are gone, that's really bad news. Those Germans were the only ones who made the trip worth it for me. Romanians are too hit and miss with their service and they harass me too much to take them to the room. Germans on the other hand, allow me to approach them and they typically give solid service. IMO.

Agree on the bad music, just play classic rock and call it day. They have these clueless female staff workers playing music from a playlist and its dogshit that ruins the entire mood. I will be going back to Oase on my next trip, as these reports from sharks don't look to good.
[QUOTE=Escape Artist;2894719]I was there since 2008 and think a lot of it is nostalgia. The one big pro of that time was having more variety.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing this. I wish I had a time machine to experience that variety.

When You look for real GFE, not only 2 little Romanian kiss, then You know 1 hour and 30 mn are not at all same level for quality to enjoy GFE. On August 2023 , I got 150/80+ with the highest level with Sofi. De for me at Sharks. In my best quality in FKK land which is not Sharks, but 8 woman images, I get weekly 150/60 full GFE. I would say: if You are not a tourist fallen from plane, not much reason to go for Sharks casting bad value for money, when I see beauties for 100/60 in Castrop Rauxel, I would be happy to see such looks at Sharks or Globe.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2898883]Yesterday was my first visit to Sharks this year. It was a typical Tuesday. More girls than men.

There seems to be more Asians; including some probably PRC Chinese talking at the top of their voices for a long time in the locker room.

I did not get past the front couches! I tried a new Lisa there, and later another new very skinny girl called Esma. Both provided good service. 100 for 30.

After I paid Esma, I talked to a very pretty girl coming out of the changing room (not often I meet 3 pretty new girls in a row). When she said she was Ariana, I thought that this might be the Ariana some of the posters here had talked about last year. But she said that she was a Romanian from Constanta. But as is was already late, I had to defer trying her to another day.

I then went back to hotel due to tiredness from my flight, and did not have a chance to see the rest of the playing field. I was planning to go to Oase on Friday, but due to the train strike announced to be happening on Thursday and Friday, I will probably head back to Sharks instead to see what other new girls there are.[/QUOTE]Do you take S5 to Friedrichsdorf then take taxi to Oase? The train strike should not affect S-bahns. Am I right?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2899917]Do you take S5 to Friedrichsdorf then take taxi to Oase? The train strike should not affect S-bahns. Am I right?[/QUOTE]Deutsche Bahn trains were on strike. So the S-bahns were certainly affected. No problem getting to Sharks as the VIA trains that go to Darmstadt Nord within walking distance to Sharks were not on strike.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2899934]Deutsche Bahn trains were on strike. So the S-bahns were certainly affected. No problem getting to Sharks as the VIA trains that go to Darmstadt Nord within walking distance to Sharks were not on strike.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your good news about VIA train. I have two more questions. (1) When the passengers arrive at FRA, they must take S8 or S9 to Frankfurt downtown area. Are S8 and S9 affected? (2) I am sure that Ubahn are not affected. Is U4 running again? Last year U4 did not run for a few months.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2900149]Thank you for your good news about VIA train. I have two more questions. (1) When the passengers arrive at FRA, they must take S8 or S9 to Frankfurt downtown area. Are S8 and S9 affected? (2) I am sure that Ubahn are not affected. Is U4 running again? Last year U4 did not run for a few months.[/QUOTE]Best to download the DB app and check their timetables when selecting your desired trips. It will either say trip(s) or part there off are cancelled in advance or are still running. Last I checked during the recent train strike on 7 & 8 March, there were a very limited skeleton Regional and S-Bahn services running and the non-DB trains (VIA, HLB, RRX, National Express, etc), U-bahn and busses were 100% running on schedule.

Howie.

I should be in Sharks at the end of March.

Is the bar service still as bad as usual? Waiting ages to get served.

Last time the beer was disgusting and was nothing on draught and the service was extremely slow & rude.

Hi all,

I just planned my first trip to Frankfurt. Flying in 4/2 and flying out 4/12.10 days is probably a lot. So a couple of questions (appreciate all the info on here that I already read through):

1) Any hotel recommendations that are convenient to get to Oase and Sharks (going to try to stay at Marriott brands if possible given status). I understand there are some train strikes going on.

2) Do you recommend I find a day or two and take the 8 hour train ride (or fly) to Austria for well cum? Or better to check out Berlin and Artemis?

3) I prefer to do some exploring in the AM and afternoon. I am thinking showing up at FKKs around 4 pm and staying through maybe 8 or 10. How safe is it coming back during late hours?

4) I understand you can use credit card for the entry fees but cash only for the sessions. If I am planning for maybe 2-3 sessions max. I imagine taking $500 will be more than enough?

5) Do most FKKs have robes you can wear or is it towels only. I have a few tattoos that I prefer to not walk around showcasing. Nothing inappropriate LOL.

6) Is there any racist or stereotypes I should be aware of? I am of Indian origin but raised in the USA Since I was 7.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2900149]Thank you for your good news about VIA train. I have two more questions. (1) When the passengers arrive at FRA, they must take S8 or S9 to Frankfurt downtown area. Are S8 and S9 affected? (2) I am sure that Ubahn are not affected. Is U4 running again? Last year U4 did not run for a few months.[/QUOTE]Yes, S8/9 were affected. They are on strike again tomorrow, and their leader promises 'waves of strikes' until DB capitulates and agrees to reduction to 35-hour week, plus large increase in pay.

U4 is running, although I did not take it.

When strike is on, you will need to take a taxi to get to Frankfurt.
If you are going to Sharks, there is the direct Airliner bus to Darmstadt.

[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2900236]I should be in Sharks at the end of March.

Is the bar service still as bad as usual? Waiting ages to get served.

Last time the beer was disgusting and was nothing on draught and the service was extremely slow & rude.[/QUOTE]When she works, target short, old with white short hair woman who is nice.

[QUOTE=Howie;2900177]Best to download the DB app and check their timetables when selecting your desired trips. It will either say trip(s) or part there off are cancelled in advance or are still running. Last I checked during the recent train strike on 7 & 8 March, there were a very limited skeleton Regional and S-Bahn services running and the non-DB trains (VIA, HLB, RRX, National Express, etc), U-bahn and busses were 100% running on schedule.

Howie.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I have to get to Hauptwich by any means. Once I reach Hauptwich, I can take U4 to where I want to go.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900362]Yes, S8/9 were affected. They are on strike again tomorrow, and their leader promises 'waves of strikes' until DB capitulates and agrees to reduction to 35-hour week, plus large increase in pay.

U4 is running, although I did not take it.

When strike is on, you will need to take a taxi to get to Frankfurt.
If you are going to Sharks, there is the direct Airliner bus to Darmstadt.[/QUOTE]I don't know if the taxis can handle so many passengers from all of the world. I will try my best to reach Hauptwich. Once I reach Hauptwich, I can take U4 to where I want to go. I will not go to Sharks with my luggages but I can consider to take Airline bus to Damstadt then take VIA train to Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=Merperb;2900341]
3) I prefer to do some exploring in the AM and afternoon. I am thinking showing up at FKKs around 4 pm and staying through maybe 8 or 10. How safe is it coming back during late hours?[/QUOTE]Very safe. Arriving 4 pm is ok. Leaving at 8 pm is way too early. The majority of girls arrive between 6 and 8 pm at this time of year.

[QUOTE=Merperb;2900341]4) I understand you can use credit card for the entry fees but cash only for the sessions. If I am planning for maybe 2-3 sessions max. I imagine taking $500 will be more than enough?[/QUOTE]It depends how you ride. A 30 mnts session will cost you 100 E- 150. A 60 mnts session 150- 250 E. Extra for CIM (50) and anal (100). Do the math. Tip: Most guys spend more than planned. Cash is king. Extra fees for the use of credit cards.

[QUOTE=Merperb;2900341]5) Do most FKKs have robes you can wear or is it towels only. [/QUOTE]All FKK clubs have robes.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2900476]I can consider to take Airline bus to Damstadt then take VIA train to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind that the VIA train's stop is at Darmstadt Nord, a railway stop near Sharks. However the Airliner stops at the main Darmstadt rail station. To get from there to Darmstadt Nord, you will need to take a taxi costing about 14-15 euros, or struggle with your luggage on a city bus. Furthermore the VIA train is not very frequent, normally every 2 hours.

Also, are you sure your stop is really called Hauptwich? Closest name I can think of is Hauptwache, but the U4 does not stop there.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2900495]Very safe. Arriving 4 pm is ok. Leaving at 8 pm is way too early. The majority of girls arrive between 6 and 8 pm at this time of year.![/QUOTE]I spent 4 days at Sharks last week. On all those days, the majority of the girls arrived between 4 pm and 6 pm, although a few still continue to stream in after 6pm.

I witnessed an amusing situation at the reception last week. Sylvana was trying to get a customer to pay up. I think (I might have misheard part of it) the customer was saying that he had not enough cash, and the machine does not accept his credit card. Receptionists had to mediate. Not sure how it was finally solved.

[QUOTE=Merperb;2900341]
1) Any hotel recommendations that are convenient to get to Oase and Sharks (going to try to stay at Marriott brands if possible

2) Do you recommend I find a day or two and take the 8 hour train ride (or fly) to Austria for well cum? Or better to check out Berlin and Artemis?

6) Is there any racist or stereotypes I should be aware of? I am of Indian origin but raised in the USA Since I was 7.[/QUOTE]1. No Marriott near Sharks or Oase. For Oase, there is Arcadia and Mercure in Friedrichsdorf.
For Sharks, the better hotels near the train station are Holiday Inn Express, Intercity, and Maritim. Maritim has a swimming pool.

2. Lufthansa has been striking now and then too. Last week and this week. Last week, they coordinated the Lufthansa and Deutsche Bahn strikes to happen on roughly the same days. So you might be screwed whichever mode travel you choose.

6. No racism that I have noticed against Indians. They just want your money.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900499]I spent 4 days at Sharks last week. On all those days, the majority of the girls arrived between 4 pm and 6 pm, although a few still continue to stream in after 6pm.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are right. My observation was a very general one doing Sharks / Oase / World recently. Maybe late arrival is primarily an Oase thing? Vanessa at World arrived very late, too.

Moxy Darmstadt used to be my favorite as one of the Marriott brands. Unfortunately, the Bus are stop, right outside the Moxy, is bypassed due to construction. Now you have to walk about 10 minutes to the train station to catch the bus. Nevertheless, it's good value if you got Marriott points to burn.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900505]1. No Marriott near Sharks or Oase. For Oase, there is Arcadia and Mercure in Friedrichsdorf.
For Sharks, the better hotels near the train station are Holiday Inn Express, Intercity, and Maritim. Maritim has a swimming pool.

2. Lufthansa has been striking now and then too. Last week and this week. Last week, they coordinated the Lufthansa and Deutsche Bahn strikes to happen on roughly the same days. So you might be screwed whichever mode travel you choose.

6. No racism that I have noticed against Indians. They just want your money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shark16;2900520]Perhaps you are right. My observation was a very general one doing Sharks / Oase / World recently. Maybe late arrival is primarily an Oase thing? Vanessa at World arrived very late, too.[/QUOTE]Yes, Oase night shift only start coming at 5 pm, then they spend 1 hour in the changing room, and appear for work oly at 6pm.
The difference arises because Oase operates a shift system, with the 5pm girls having to stay to the end at 4/5am.
Sharks does not have shifts, so the girls start ariving at 3pm and by 6pm the whole lineup except for a few nightbirds, or those with daytime normal jobs, would already be in place. They start leaving at 10pm and by 12pm, most of the better ones are gone. For example, at 1am last Sunday, the only girl I would have wanted was Ulia. The rest were not worth a 2nd look.

I read on another forum that Bibi is back. Can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900669]Yes, Oase night shift only start coming at 5 pm, then they spend 1 hour in the changing room, and appear for work oly at 6pm.
The difference arises because Oase operates a shift system, with the 5pm girls having to stay to the end at 4/5am.[/QUOTE]Again, perhaps you are right about the fundamentals. But there are definetively girls arriving at Oase in street clothes between 6 and 8 pm including a couple of highlights. So absolutely a couple of nightbirds at Oase too. By 6 pm you could be missing out on a few. I'd say it peaked at 7- 8 pm with around 40- 60 girls as of last week (regular weekdays).

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900496]Bear in mind that the VIA train's stop is at Darmstadt Nord, a railway stop near Sharks. However the Airliner stops at the main Darmstadt rail station. To get from there to Darmstadt Nord, you will need to take a taxi costing about 14-15 euros, or struggle with your luggage on a city bus. Furthermore the VIA train is not very frequent, normally every 2 hours.

Also, are you sure your stop is really called Hauptwich? Closest name I can think of is Hauptwache, but the U4 does not stop there.[/QUOTE]Yes, I mean Hauptwache. By the way, I just get info from a local friend. The train strikes only affect the traffics today and tomorrow. There are no train strikes this Thursday and Friday.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900505]1. No Marriott near Sharks or Oase. For Oase, there is Arcadia and Mercure in Friedrichsdorf.
For Sharks, the better hotels near the train station are Holiday Inn Express, Intercity, and Maritim. Maritim has a swimming pool.
[/QUOTE]For Sharks, the best hotel is Rose Garden. The Rose Garden hotel is about 5 minutes' walk to Darmstadt Nord and about 10 minutes' walk to Sharks. For Oase, you probably should find a hotel in Bad Homburg. You can take a taxi from Bad Homburg to Oase. Remember, the taxis are not guaranteed outside Friedrichsdorf S5 station.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2900728]Again, perhaps you are right about the fundamentals. But there are definetively girls arriving at Oase in street clothes between 6 and 8 pm including a couple of highlights. So absolutely a couple of nightbirds at Oase too. By 6 pm you could be missing out on a few. I'd say it peaked at 7- 8 pm with around 40- 60 girls as of last week (regular weekdays).[/QUOTE]Some girls start after 9 pm at Oase and some start around or later at Sharks, but after 1 am, Oase casting is better.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900502]I witnessed an amusing situation at the reception last week. Sylvana was trying to get a customer to pay up. I think (I might have misheard part of it) the customer was saying that he had not enough cash, and the machine does not accept his credit card. Receptionists had to mediate. Not sure how it was finally solved.[/QUOTE]Again with Sylvana, a guy was led by 1 security and Sylvana went with them to a outside ATM. She is so expensive, guys are not rich enough to pay for so exceptionnal. This is only reason I don t go with her weekly, because I m not rich enough for her, when I could only buy a 2008 V8 and have to repair with race techniques from R8 cup, when I can t afford for a dacia.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2900963]Again with Sylvana, a guy was led by 1 security and Sylvana went with them to a outside ATM. She is so expensive, guys are not rich enough to pay for so exceptionnal. This is only reason I don t go with her weekly, because I m not rich enough for her, when I could only buy a 2008 V8 and have to repair with race techniques from R8 cup, when I can t afford for a dacia.[/QUOTE]I am almost certain that gents go with Sylvana for a phenomenal blow job. Every time she approached me she would tell me in very graphic terms what her mouth and tongue would do to my schlong and how after I climax every drop of cum will disappear down her throat.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2901087]I am almost certain that gents go with Sylvana for a phenomenal blow job. Every time she approached me she would tell me in very graphic terms what her mouth and tongue would do to my schlong and how after I climax every drop of cum will disappear down her throat.[/QUOTE]I was told nothing exceptional. I guess some are happy for AO with her.

Because there is no train strike today, I take S8 from FRA to Frankfurt downtown area smoothly. However, there are Ubahn strikes today and tomorrow. Those strikes force me to change my original plan. I probably will use VIA trains 3 days in a row.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2900669]Yes, Oase night shift only start coming at 5 pm, then they spend 1 hour in the changing room, and appear for work oly at 6pm.
The difference arises because Oase operates a shift system, with the 5pm girls having to stay to the end at 4/5am.
Sharks does not have shifts, so the girls start ariving at 3pm and by 6pm the whole lineup except for a few nightbirds, or those with daytime normal jobs, would already be in place. They start leaving at 10pm and by 12pm, most of the better ones are gone. For example, at 1am last Sunday, the only girl I would have wanted was Ulia. The rest were not worth a 2nd look.[/QUOTE]After 1 am, more beauties at Oase where night team is much prettier than day team. Natural German part timer start at 2 pm.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2901087]I am almost certain that gents go with Sylvana for a phenomenal blow job. Every time she approached me she would tell me in very graphic terms what her mouth and tongue would do to my schlong and how after I climax every drop of cum will disappear down her throat.[/QUOTE]I was in Sharks yesterday. Based on my personal experience, quite a few girls younger than 30 would do CIM + SW. I did one with Darlia yesterday. I also noticed that Sylvana did NOT get any business before 5 PM. Yesterday was quite chilly in the garden of Sharks. Sylvana could not go outside. Hopefully she can get her specialty going when the weather warms up in the next two months. Syllvana's specialty was that she gave some old sunbathers BBBJ in public beside the swimming pool of Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2901100]I was told nothing exceptional. I guess some are happy for AO with her.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that Sylvana did AO in Sharks. Yesterday I saw her to try to get in the hot tub with old customers to make some easy money but nobody accepted her. The current Shark policy is 15 minutes for 50 Euros in the hot tub.

Is there any pubs / bars near to sharks for a few beers as the service is so slow in sharks and no decent beers on draught in my experience.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2901645]I was in Sharks yesterday. Based on my personal experience, quite a few girls younger than 30 would do CIM + SW. I did one with Darlia yesterday. I also noticed that Sylvana did NOT get any business before 5 PM. Yesterday was quite chilly in the garden of Sharks. Sylvana could not go outside. Hopefully she can get her specialty going when the weather warms up in the next two months. Syllvana's specialty was that she gave some old sunbathers BBBJ in public beside the swimming pool of Sharks.[/QUOTE]Swallow is a thing in Sharks? Really?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2900963]Again with Sylvana, a guy was led by 1 security and Sylvana went with them to a outside ATM. She is so expensive, guys are not rich enough to pay for so exceptionnal. This is only reason I don t go with her weekly, because I m not rich enough for her, when I could only buy a 2008 V8 and have to repair with race techniques from R8 cup, when I can t afford for a dacia.[/QUOTE]How much is she?

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2902112]How much is she?[/QUOTE]Probably from 50 , but too expensive when I don t pay for not able to make me dream, I don't pay for just sex, I want to buy dream. My french friend was on this Saturday and Sunday and when he is not so demanding for looks, but no wow for him and Sharks was dead on Sunday at midnight. Too expensive business, make bad value and less clients, when better values in other clubs in Germany, so why to pay more expensive for lower quality? When You are not a tourist.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2902130]Probably from 50 , but too expensive when I don t pay for not able to make me dream, I don't pay for just sex, I want to buy dream. My french friend was on this Saturday and Sunday and when he is not so demanding for looks, but no wow for him and Sharks was dead on Sunday at midnight. Too expensive business, make bad value and less clients, when better values in other clubs in Germany, so why to pay more expensive for lower quality? When You are not a tourist.[/QUOTE]For 50/30 you can have Sylvana give you a BBBJCIM and while she's doing that you can close your eyes and dream that it is Thylane Blondeau who is taking you to ecstasy. Talk about sweet dreams!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2902277]For 50/30 you can have Sylvana give you a BBBJCIM and while she's doing that you can close your eyes and dream that it is Thylane Blondeau who is taking you to ecstasy. Talk about sweet dreams![/QUOTE]Would be horror nightmare. I was always amazed to see quite good looking and young guys returning from room with her with banana on face.

Which should I choose? Sharks or Oase on a Tuesday. Early arrival and dep by 9 pm?

Yep I know booth will be slim pickings because it's Tuesday but I have been in Sharks last 2 days and quality far from spectacular.

(Cross posted in Oase thread)

A few days ago, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Bailey, 22-23 yo, Very pretty Russian German girl from Hamburg city, after almost 10 months since our last encounter. She is still very pretty. If you want to know who is this beautiful young lady, please refer to my previous post. She sporadically comes to club which is why I haven't seen her for over half a year.

Really enjoyed one hour with her in the room. No pressure. She is like a typical German girl and trying to please her customers.

Of course, 200 euro per hour. It might be too expensive for certain customers.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2902501]A few days ago, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Bailey, 22-23 yo, Very pretty Russian German girl from Hamburg city, after almost 10 months since our last encounter. She is still very pretty. If you want to know who is this beautiful young lady, please refer to my previous post. She sporadically comes to club which is why I haven't seen her for over half a year.

Really enjoyed one hour with her in the room. No pressure. She is like a typical German girl and trying to please her customers.

Of course, 200 euro per hour. It might be too expensive for certain customers.[/QUOTE]Does she sit with the German contingent near the food section? I did not see her on Saturday but back there on Wednesday and Thursday. Hope I see her on those days.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2902501]A few days ago, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Bailey, 22-23 yo, Very pretty Russian German girl from Hamburg city, after almost 10 months since our last encounter. She is still very pretty. If you want to know who is this beautiful young lady, please refer to my previous post. She sporadically comes to club which is why I haven't seen her for over half a year.

Really enjoyed one hour with her in the room. No pressure. She is like a typical German girl and trying to please her customers.

Of course, 200 euro per hour. It might be too expensive for certain customers.[/QUOTE]Very pretty? Did she lose a lot of weight and on ass? Such look never worth 200 , when I didn't want to repeat with Sofi because 200/60 , when I paid this about 10 times for Lora. FR and paid on 2 week ends a real immaculate Swiss 510/90 in Zurich, but all looks don t worth same rate. I don t see any image at Sharks who has GFE level for 200/60 , when You compare to German escorts. At Sharks now, is to pay more expensive for lower quality for girls than elsewhere.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2902501]A few days ago, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Bailey, 22-23 yo, Very pretty Russian German girl. . .

Of course, 200 euro per hour. It might be too expensive for certain customers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2902596]Very pretty? Did she lose a lot of weight and on ass? Such look never worth 200 , when I didn't want to repeat with Sofi because 200/60 , when I paid this about 10 times for Lora. FR and paid on 2 week ends a real immaculate Swiss 510/90 in Zurich, but all looks don t worth same rate. I don t see any image at Sharks who has GFE level for 200/60 , when You compare to German escorts. At Sharks now, is to pay more expensive for lower quality for girls than elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Yes, Bailey is too expensive for certain customers (you? I mentioned that before.)

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I enjoy visiting Sharks. More than 100 girls during weekends. If money isn't your top concern, at Sharks, you could easily find many beautiful girls whom you would genuinely like to date in the real world.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2902691]Yes, Bailey is too expensive for certain customers (you? I mentioned that before.).[/QUOTE]Since 2011, I paid so many real Russian escorts 250/60, I paid a Swiss twice 510/90, when Sharks girls are not pretty enough for 200/60. Is Bailey the fat with fishnet?

[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2901799]Swallow is a thing in Sharks? Really?[/QUOTE]Yes, quite a few girls will do it. If you want to get this service, you probably should go to Sharks on Fridays. Sharks has the best lineup on Fridays. Saturdays are the second best. You will have fewer choices on Sundays.

Sharks has excellent food services on Fridays and Saturdays. I always come in early around 11:15 AM. I enjoy those smoked salmons and the cook always cooks the omelet for me with two cups of mixed vegetables. In the evening, the new female cook cooks the fried bananas for me in the TV room. All those pretty girls also stand around this new female cook to get their treats.

The food services of Sharks added chicken nuggets after 5 PM. The cook cooked those chicken nuggets very well without salt added.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2902358]Which should I choose? Sharks or Oase on a Tuesday. Early arrival and dep by 9 pm?

Yep I know booth will be slim pickings because it's Tuesday but I have been in Sharks last 2 days and quality far from spectacular.

(Cross posted in Oase thread)[/QUOTE]Both Sharks and Oase have lousy lineups on Tuesdays. You probably should try FKK Globe instead because Tuesdays are public sex day in FKK Globe. The lineups are good in FKK Globe on Tuesdays.

I was at Sharks on Saturday from about 17:00 to midnight. The place got very crowded as the evening went on. I had fun but there were also some disappointments, the biggest being that Brenda was out of town. I have a weakness for huge natural tits and there's really no other girl in the club who can compete with her there. She also gives great honest service and it always seems like a mutually good time. I've never seen Bibi, but everything I've read about this beautiful big-titted 19-year-old really made me want to meet her. Unfortunately she also wasn't around. Does she seem to have left Sharks for good? I'd be grateful for any intel. I was also sorry to see that Catalea wasn't there. She is gorgeous and sweet and I've spent some beautiful times with her. The other big disappointment was about prices, which I'll get into below.

First room of the day was with a girl who called herself Alexi and was hanging around the bar in the C3 area. She's a small and cute brunette with perky little tits and a nice plump ass. I've only seen her mentioned online a couple of times. Does she have any other alises? She tried to convince me she was from Argentina despite having nothing resembling a Spanish accent and somehow speaking perfect Romanian with the other girls. I hadn't cum in a few days and was pretty horny by the time I got to the club, so when she started talking to me I let myself be seduced and we headed to a room. When we got inside she told me it's 50 extra for BBJ and kissing, which was irritating. The last time I was in the club last summer, there seemed to be a general understanding that BBJ was included for 100, and most girls were also willing to do at least some light kissing. Now many are asking an extra 50 for these things. Hopefully it doesn't become the new normal. I guess it was my fault for not confirming everything before we got into the room, so I decided to bite the bullet and agree because I was all horned up and didn't want to start the day with a condom blowjob. When we started the sex she was very tight. She kept complaining that I was too big and she was doing that move a lot where she uses her hand to stop the dick from going in all the way. We took it slow at first and eventually she relaxed a bit. Despite the setbacks her pussy felt great and I was pretty turned on the whole time. After some cowgirl and mish we ended in doggy, and I increased the tempo enough to pound that fat little ass and blow my load.

My second room was with a girl who said her name was Julia (pronounced the German way) who hangs out at the first couches right when you enter the club. She's pretty, tallish, long dark hair, early 20's (I think she said 22), very nice full natural see cups, and kind of a lot of large tattoos on her legs. Her English is not so strong so we mostly spoke German (which was only a little better). I don't think I've seen her discussed online: does anyone know anything about her? Has she used other names? I needed to get my big titty fix so after agreeing to kissing and BBJ for 100 we went upstairs. It turned out that all of the rooms were occupied, so Julia did something funny: she knocked on pretty much every single door on the floor (maybe around 20) to double-check. Each knock was answered by a frantic "besetzt!" except in a couple of cases when they apparently didn't hear, and Julia opened the door and poked her head in only to quickly close it again with a "sorry!" We were both laughing and the mood was fun when we finally found a room. She gave a good BBJ and then climbed on top of me and did a nice job bouncing around on my dick while I sucked on her tits. Ended in doggy again where I had fun fucking her pretty hard and grabbing her tits while enjoying the view in the mirrors. When she took the condom off me she looked at it and said "this is too much sperm. " Probably my best room of the day.

Third and final room was with Lina, who also hangs out at the couches in the front (I think she and Julia are part of the same friend group there). She has a very young baby face (she said she's 19, but I've seen other reports saying her real age is more like 21), with long brown hair, tan skin, and fairly nice tits on the bigger side of BS with kinda puffy nipples. Not too much to say. There wasn't much of a connection but I was feeling like a perv who wanted to stick it in a really young girl so I had a good time fucking her. Also 100 for 30.

Talked to a few other girls including:

Vanessa: I've been with her a couple times last year and in 2022. She hangs out on the E4 couches. Now she's blonde and has a tattoo between her boobs. She's pretty funny and we were talking and joking around a bit.

Misha: I talked to her last year and thought she was hot but I've never been with her, and I actually came to the club this time with the intention to keep an eye out for her. She has a great body with nice be cups, a very nice ass, beautiful green eyes, and a confident and sexy demeanor. Unfortunately she said she wouldn't kiss or do BBJ for 100, and my efforts to persuade her had no effect. Usually when it gets to this point, even if you manage to convince the girl, she won't be thrilled about agreeing to a lower price than she initially wanted, and the vibes become too businesslike and you can expect a poor room. So I passed in the end.

A Turkish girl whose name I forgot who was hanging around A4. She had long dark wavy hair and pretty big natural tits that hang but still look good. She was cool and friendly and said she grew up partly in Germany. She agreed to BBJ and kissing for 100, so I put her on my mental "maybe" list but it didn't happen in the end.

Stacy: Very pretty girl with dark hair who was sitting at B2. She had nice boobs that I'm pretty sure were natural Cs (it's rare that I can't immediately tell, so if they were fake then they were very good, or if they were real then they were nice and round). She seemed sweet and a bit quiet. I also added her to my mental list but it didn't work out.

Simona / Rose: tiny, petite teen-style girl (though I think she's actually early 20's) who stands at the bar around C5. She has an awesome little body and a beautiful face and very impressive firm full tits for how small and slim she is. I didn't remember seeing or hearing of her but I've since learned she's well known for her good looks and bad attitude. I approached her and asked her name and she said "Rose" before immediately turning 180 degrees away from me to talk with another girl. She's one of the hottest girls in the club and she knows it, but she hardly seems to do any rooms. I had my eye on her for much of the night and she must have done around one or two or maybe even zero. It really got me wondering what her business model is. It seems to me like she could make a lot more money with an even slightly better attitude. Maybe her strategy is just to wait for the right sucker to become smitten and blow huge amounts of money on her. Maybe she's fishing for a sugar daddy or something? She seemed to be much more interested in talking to her girl friends than in going with any men. I doubt she was doing any rooms for less than 150, but even so I was seriously tempted a few times. The thought of fucking the shit out of a bitchy little teen model was pretty hot to me, but I reminded myself she'd probably be a pain in the ass who can't take a real pounding. On the other hand, I've seen a few positive reports about her, so maybe she opens up if a guy can manage to charm her. Maybe next time.

Nice report. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2903789]I was at Sharks on Saturday from about 17:00 to midnight. The place got very crowded as the evening went on. I had fun but there were also some disappointments, The other big disappointment was about prices,[/QUOTE]Yeah, the quotes at Sharks continue to be hilarious. Your experience matches mine and is also echoed in the local forums: 100 E /30 is still going rate at Sharks (top optics / good performance), but even that quote is not good enough among an increasing number of girls. You did right to remind everyone of making sure minimum services are provided in the price. Or, you will quickly be asked to pay extra for services like kissing once inside the room. Just hilarious.

Note: Some girls who quote 150 E /30 for a good performance may be willing to extend time to 45 mnts for the same price/performance. Just an idea when negotiating (although personally I would rather pass on girls who upsell).

Oase is not much better IME. Luckily my regulars continue to provide excellent services at a favourable rate. At World a majority of girls will quote 150 E /60 with excellent performance, but not all. And as we know, World cannot compete with Sharks / Oase with regard to optic quality. Pickings are slim.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2903789]Third and final room was with Lina, who also hangs out at the couches in the front (I think she and Julia are part of the same friend group there). She has a very young baby face (she said she's 19, but I've seen other reports saying her real age is more like 21), with long brown hair, tan skin, and fairly nice tits on the bigger side of BS with kinda puffy nipples. Not too much to say. There wasn't much of a connection but I was feeling like a perv who wanted to stick it in a really young girl so I had a good time fucking her. Also 100 for 30.
[/QUOTE]Ex- Oase. I have reported on her before and will not repeat. Local reports are slightly more positive. Amazing looks, but lack in performance. YMMV.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2903764]Both Sharks and Oase have lousy lineups on Tuesdays. You probably should try FKK Globe instead because Tuesdays are public sex day in FKK Globe. The lineups are good in FKK Globe on Tuesdays.[/QUOTE]Girls are now not pretty enough at Globe for 160€/30 . Only worthing if having size to play porn harder. I know prettier and higher GFE level girls in Germany for 150€/60 for full GFE, more elegance and charm and no money arabic market. At Oase, prettier than at Globe.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2903789]I was at Sharks on Saturday from about 17:00 to midnight. The place got very crowded as the evening went on. I had fun but there were also some disappointments, the biggest being that Brenda was out of town. I have a weakness for huge natural tits and there's really no other girl in the club who can compete with her there. She also gives great honest service and it always seems like a mutually good time. I've never seen Bibi, but everything I've read about this beautiful big-titted 19-year-old really made me want to meet her. Unfortunately she also wasn't around. Does she seem to have left Sharks for good? I'd be grateful for any intel. I was also sorry to see that Catalea wasn't there. She is gorgeous and sweet and I've spent some beautiful times with her. The other big disappointment was about prices, which I'll get into below.

First room of the day was with a girl who called herself Alexi and was hanging around the bar in the C3 area. She's a small and cute brunette with perky little tits and a nice plump ass. I've only seen her mentioned online a couple of times. Does she have any other alises? She tried to convince me she was from Argentina despite having nothing resembling a Spanish accent and somehow speaking perfect Romanian with the other girls. I hadn't cum in a few days and was pretty horny by the time I got to the club, so when she started talking to me I let myself be seduced and we headed to a room. When we got inside she told me it's 50 extra for BBJ and kissing, which was irritating. The last time I was in the club last summer, there seemed to be a general understanding that BBJ was included for 100, and most girls were also willing to do at least some light kissing. Now many are asking an extra 50 for these things. Hopefully it doesn't become the new normal. I guess it was my fault for not confirming everything before we got into the room, so I decided to bite the bullet and agree because I was all horned up and didn't want to start the day with a condom blowjob. When we started the sex she was very tight. She kept complaining that I was too big and she was doing that move a lot where she uses her hand to stop the dick from going in all the way. We took it slow at first and eventually she relaxed a bit. Despite the setbacks her pussy felt great and I was pretty turned on the whole time. After some cowgirl and mish we ended in doggy, and I increased the tempo enough to pound that fat little ass and blow my load.

My second room was with a girl who said her name was Julia (pronounced the German way) who hangs out at the first couches right when you enter the club. She's pretty, tallish, long dark hair, early 20's (I think she said 22), very nice full natural see cups, and kind of a lot of large tattoos on her legs. Her English is not so strong so we mostly spoke German (which was only a little better). I don't think I've seen her discussed online: does anyone know anything about her? Has she used other names? I needed to get my big titty fix so after agreeing to kissing and BBJ for 100 we went upstairs. It turned out that all of the rooms were occupied, so Julia did something funny: she knocked on pretty much every single door on the floor (maybe around 20) to double-check. Each knock was answered by a frantic "besetzt!" except in a couple of cases when they apparently didn't hear, and Julia opened the door and poked her head in only to quickly close it again with a "sorry!" We were both laughing and the mood was fun when we finally found a room. She gave a good BBJ and then climbed on top of me and did a nice job bouncing around on my dick while I sucked on her tits. Ended in doggy again where I had fun fucking her pretty hard and grabbing her tits while enjoying the view in the mirrors. When she took the condom off me she looked at it and said "this is too much sperm. " Probably my best room of the day.

Third and final room was with Lina, who also hangs out at the couches in the front (I think she and Julia are part of the same friend group there). She has a very young baby face (she said she's 19, but I've seen other reports saying her real age is more like 21), with long brown hair, tan skin, and fairly nice tits on the bigger side of BS with kinda puffy nipples. Not too much to say. There wasn't much of a connection but I was feeling like a perv who wanted to stick it in a really young girl so I had a good time fucking her. Also 100 for 30.

Talked to a few other girls including:

Vanessa: I've been with her a couple times last year and in 2022. She hangs out on the E4 couches. Now she's blonde and has a tattoo between her boobs. She's pretty funny and we were talking and joking around a bit.

Misha: I talked to her last year and thought she was hot but I've never been with her, and I actually came to the club this time with the intention to keep an eye out for her. She has a great body with nice be cups, a very nice ass, beautiful green eyes, and a confident and sexy demeanor. Unfortunately she said she wouldn't kiss or do BBJ for 100, and my efforts to persuade her had no effect. Usually when it gets to this point, even if you manage to convince the girl, she won't be thrilled about agreeing to a lower price than she initially wanted, and the vibes become too businesslike and you can expect a poor room. So I passed in the end.

A Turkish girl whose name I forgot who was hanging around A4. She had long dark wavy hair and pretty big natural tits that hang but still look good. She was cool and friendly and said she grew up partly in Germany. She agreed to BBJ and kissing for 100, so I put her on my mental "maybe" list but it didn't happen in the end.

Stacy: Very pretty girl with dark hair who was sitting at B2. She had nice boobs that I'm pretty sure were natural Cs (it's rare that I can't immediately tell, so if they were fake then they were very good, or if they were real then they were nice and round). She seemed sweet and a bit quiet. I also added her to my mental list but it didn't work out.

Simona / Rose: tiny, petite teen-style girl (though I think she's actually early 20's) who stands at the bar around C5. She has an awesome little body and a beautiful face and very impressive firm full tits for how small and slim she is. I didn't remember seeing or hearing of her but I've since learned she's well known for her good looks and bad attitude. I approached her and asked her name and she said "Rose" before immediately turning 180 degrees away from me to talk with another girl. She's one of the hottest girls in the club and she knows it, but she hardly seems to do any rooms. I had my eye on her for much of the night and she must have done around one or two or maybe even zero. It really got me wondering what her business model is. It seems to me like she could make a lot more money with an even slightly better attitude. Maybe her strategy is just to wait for the right sucker to become smitten and blow huge amounts of money on her. Maybe she's fishing for a sugar daddy or something? She seemed to be much more interested in talking to her girl friends than in going with any men. I doubt she was doing any rooms for less than 150, but even so I was seriously tempted a few times. The thought of fucking the shit out of a bitchy little teen model was pretty hot to me, but I reminded myself she'd probably be a pain in the ass who can't take a real pounding. On the other hand, I've seen a few positive reports about her, so maybe she opens up if a guy can manage to charm her. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Surrealistic report about upselling for BBBJ or kissing, or playing arabic market, such killing desire, when no money talk with my weekly girls. Just tourist experience, when, even as a foreigner not speaking German, but when You know a bit about the German business, You don t pay 50 for most Sharks looks, but know German escorts are for less expensive than little Romanians and so far higher level for look and sex. Sharks is now like Globe, for those who know nothing else.

Is there any decent bars in Darmstadt for a few beers as the bar (and bar service) at sharks is terrible.

I will be there Friday and Saturday, but would prefer have a few beers elsewhere. Might just have a few in Frankfurt and get the train out.

[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2903917]Is there any decent bars in Darmstadt for a few beers as the bar (and bar service) at sharks is terrible.

I will be there Friday and Saturday, but would prefer have a few beers elsewhere. Might just have a few in Frankfurt and get the train out.[/QUOTE]Totally agree that bar service is terrible. I strongly suspect that the spirits are all watered down. Beer and wine are likely your best bets but they are overpriced and taste bad too. I heard that girls are told to actively discourage drinking with customers which seems seriously counter productive for a brothel, but I guess it makes sense given the rowdy bunch that tend to visit this club. Or girls simply don't want to deal with whisky dick.

I find the while alcohol situation at Sharks very frustrating and so tend to use Sharks as a 'spa / detox' opportunity rather than a party night. Its a shame because I do enjoy having a drink at these clubs. I suppose the best solution would be to go with bottle service but that of course is an entirely different cost and commitment proposition.

Yup. Bar service sucks. Last time (mid Feb) when I was there, I had a couple beers and went to rooms. Otherwise, I used sharks as a sauna where I happen to see naked women with the option to fuck. Not a party place. Drinks taste bad and are expensive. Plus, the bartenders make you wait for long.

Parking is another issue. I had to park at the nearby shopping area and walk to Sharks.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;2904030]Totally agree that bar service is terrible. I strongly suspect that the spirits are all watered down. Beer and wine are likely your best bets but they are overpriced and taste bad too. I heard that girls are told to actively discourage drinking with customers which seems seriously counter productive for a brothel, but I guess it makes sense given the rowdy bunch that tend to visit this club. Or girls simply don't want to deal with whisky dick.

I find the while alcohol situation at Sharks very frustrating and so tend to use Sharks as a 'spa / detox' opportunity rather than a party night. Its a shame because I do enjoy having a drink at these clubs. I suppose the best solution would be to go with bottle service but that of course is an entirely different cost and commitment proposition.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FakeIt;2904030]Totally agree that bar service is terrible. I strongly suspect that the spirits are all watered down. Beer and wine are likely your best bets but they are overpriced and taste bad too. I heard that girls are told to actively discourage drinking with customers which seems seriously counter productive for a brothel, but I guess it makes sense given the rowdy bunch that tend to visit this club. Or girls simply don't want to deal with whisky dick.

I find the while alcohol situation at Sharks very frustrating and so tend to use Sharks as a 'spa / detox' opportunity rather than a party night. Its a shame because I do enjoy having a drink at these clubs. I suppose the best solution would be to go with bottle service but that of course is an entirely different cost and commitment proposition.[/QUOTE]Many spend more for drinks than girls at night. Maybe, drinks are better value than too expensive, upselling, with only average look. Funny in FKK land, prettiest and highest level are not for the most expensive. Only 100 to 150 for full GFE for 1 hour is my standard and part timers are the most interesting.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847544]I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack.

Can somebody please confirm? If true and you are Asian, please be careful out there. There's really no place for Asian Hate. We see enough Asian Hate in America.[/QUOTE]I am sharing it now because recenlty I met one of the guys who was the victiom of this Sharks attack at a different club. We were talking about the clubs and he mentioned about this unfortunate event.

The real thing is that, they were three Chinese friends in the club. He had an issue with one girl in the room. There was an oral quarrel in the room due to the bad service but he just let it go and paid the girl. When they were leaving the club at night, some guys came with a mask and threathed them with knife and beat them. It came out that one of the guys was the pimp of the girl he had problems earlier. The pimp was in the club disguised as the customer. He said Sharks if full of those pimps keeping an an eye on their girls. They were big guys with mask and two of them looked like the security guards. The guys didn't complain as they were foreigners and don't want any problems with police in their jobs and homes with an issue in the brothel. They never visited Sharks after the incident.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2903789]I was at Sharks on Saturday from about 17:00 to midnight. The place got very crowded as the evening went on. I had fun but there were also some disappointments, the biggest being that Brenda was out of town. I have a weakness for huge natural tits and there's really no other girl in the club who can compete with her there. She also gives great honest service and it always seems like a mutually good time. I've never seen Bibi, but everything I've read about this beautiful big-titted 19-year-old really made me want to meet her. Unfortunately she also wasn't around. Does she seem to have left Sharks for good? I'd be grateful for any intel. I was also sorry to see that Catalea wasn't there. She is gorgeous and sweet and I've spent some beautiful times with her. The other big disappointment was about prices, which I'll get into below.

First room of the day was with a girl who called herself Alexi and was hanging around the bar in the C3 area. She's a small and cute brunette with perky little tits and a nice plump ass. I've only seen her mentioned online a couple of times. Does she have any other alises? She tried to convince me she was from Argentina despite having nothing resembling a Spanish accent and somehow speaking perfect Romanian with the other girls. I hadn't cum in a few days and was pretty horny by the time I got to the club, so when she started talking to me I let myself be seduced and we headed to a room..[/QUOTE]Avoid the Turkish girl. She's sexy with big naturals and naughty smile but a huge disappointment in the room.

In the first week of March, late into the night when I was half asleep, I had an awesome session with a girl, who claimed to be from Ankara, who managed to get me to finish despite my tiredness.

She was medium height, reasonably slim, small tits, darkish skin tone, and with black curly hair. She sat on the rear platform at the rear of the bar where the black girls usually sit, and exactly where Aisha sat earlier in the day. The name she told me sounded like Emi or Amy. I tried to find her during my visits in subsequent days, but could not spot her, and the girls I asked were not helpful as well. Neither could I find mention of a Turkish girl with such a name in other fora either.

Anyone knows her name, and whether she is still around. Trying to decide whether I should stay late into the night again in my next visit, if I have a chance of finding her again.

[QUOTE=Bussani492;2903789] First room of the day was with a girl who called herself Alexi and was hanging around the bar in the C3 area. She's a small and cute brunette with perky little tits and a nice plump ass. I've only seen her mentioned online a couple of times. Does she have any other alises? She tried to convince me she was from Argentina despite having nothing resembling a Spanish accent and somehow speaking perfect Romanian with the other girls. I hadn't cum in a few days and was pretty horny by the time I got to the club, so when she started talking to me I let myself be seduced and we headed to a room. .. cut .Despite the setbacks her pussy felt great and I was pretty turned on the whole time. After some cowgirl and mish we ended in doggy, and I increased the tempo enough to pound that fat little ass and blow my load.[/QUOTE]Writing my post below reminded me of another very late night stand. Last October at around 3 am, when I was 75% asleep, I went with this Alexia. She fits your description. She claimed to be from Buenos Aires, but I could not verify it was I have never been there, and I do not speak Spanish.

There were no other targets around for me, and she obviously had no other customer to look for other than drunk Turks in the jacuzzis, so I managed to get her for 100/30 all in, including BBJ and kissing.

She too succeeded in finishing me off! Earlier that night, when Ulia did not succeed in finishing me off despite my finding her very attractive, I thought that I was done for the night. So, this Alexia must have some special rejuvenative skills.

I met her again earlier this month - I think she said that she was Lena. But I did not speak with her further to confirm the name, as very coincidentally, I had just finished a long room with Ulia, and this time, Ulia did succeed in finishing me off, and I was all set to go back happily to my hotel.

Tall Lena who moved to Oase, is Romanian. I got a Venezuelian real fire looking like Russian at Palace on the night I nearly died after our discovery.

Sun Mar 17 - Alina, Victoria, Catalina, Skye.

Mon Mar 18 - Vicki, Rosa, Melinda.

Ture Mar 19 - Amalia, Breanna.

I hate tattoos and sillies so selection possibilities somewhat limited. All above gave GREAT service except Amalia. Give her a wide berth.

What is it with that stupid 'Tuesday Lingerie Day' concept? Could definitely do to give that the flick.

Back again July 1 to 8 - as much as the full days in Sharks get boring towards the end I still cannot wait to return.

Experience of a Caucasian type, quite good looking, in 30's french living and working in Frankfurt, visiting weekly Sharks, perfectly speaking German. Before he was used to visit often Bruggen. He agreed with a girl for FK and BBBJ for 100/30 , his standard, when mine is 1 hour minimum when quality for look and my GFE level. Just arrived in room, when trying to kiss, the girl told him extra 50 for kissing, so, he left the room without paying anything. If You are Caucasian, You can do same with 0 risk. I can t do anything for Asians, I can just advice to pay 50 and leave rather than being fucked, when I don t pay to be fucked by a little Romanian. Real pity for the club and staff to have such fall for casting quality, when many ask 150/30 for FK and BBBJ, but they don t have the look and level for such rate, same like at Globe where looks don t worth 160€/30 . Samya management decided to control girls, maybe they should do same, when nowhere else little Romanians could get same rate 150/30 and 250/60 .

[QUOTE=Long420;2905242]This club is not for foreigners especially Chinese / Asians.[/QUOTE]I see plenty of Asians and other foreigners in Sharks but they constantly get ripped off with overpriced short sessions. Have a look when they exit the room already after 10-15 minutes, or when standing near the valuables lockers not looking very happy / satisfied whilst handing over the cash while the WG has a big smirk on her face! LOL!

This will not change so long as dumbfucks believe that they get a 'great deal' by paying more Euros for less service. Some foreigners even brag about this on this forum, thinking it's some kind of status symbol when they can throw around more money than the locals.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2906021]I see plenty of Asians and other foreigners in Sharks but they constantly get ripped off with overpriced short sessions. Have a look when they exit the room already after 10-15 minutes, or when standing near the valuables lockers not looking very happy / satisfied whilst handing over the cash while the WG has a big smirk on her face! LOL!

This will not change so long as dumbfucks believe that they get a 'great deal' by paying more Euros for less service. Some foreigners even brag about this on this forum, thinking it's some kind of status symbol when they can throw around more money than the locals.[/QUOTE]Yes, paying now more expensive for lower quality with lower looks at Sharks.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2889160]Stacy usually sits at the bar in front of the waterfalls near the German corner, about 3-4 seats away from Catalea.

Stacy can speak fluent English. A little bit baby fat on face but very attractive. She Used to have very fair skin but now tanned. No noticeable tattoos. She was mad at me when I told her I liked her white skin and asked her to stop Solarium. LOL.

Very moody. But for unknown reasons, I still like her and enjoy the session with her. She seems like a college sugar baby coming from Moscow.

So far we have eight rooms together.

She might quit. I have heard three times she claimed since last June. But She still appears here sporadically.

However, be cautious, Stacy hasn't obtained Sirioja official endorsement.

She might be too expensive for Sirioja. 100/30 or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Does she still work at Sharks? Can she speak German? Because I know a girl named Anastasia from Moldova. Your description matches her very well. She didn't know German, only English and she had a white skin when I saw her last time in February. But for some reason she told me that her name is Anastasia. Trying to find some reports about her on forums because I fell in love with her and I know too much about her personal life.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2904831]Sun Mar 17 - Alina, Victoria, Catalina, Skye.

Mon Mar 18 - Vicki, Rosa, Melinda.

Ture Mar 19 - Amalia, Breanna.

I hate tattoos and sillies so selection possibilities somewhat limited. All above gave GREAT service except Amalia. Give her a wide berth.

What is it with that stupid 'Tuesday Lingerie Day' concept? Could definitely do to give that the flick.

Back again July 1 to 8 - asmuch as the full days in Sharks get boring towards the end I still cannot wait to return.[/QUOTE]Hey BadBoyBilly,

What were Rosa's rates? And what services were included with those rates?

One guy I briefly spoke to said she initially quoted him 300 euros/hr but after some chit chat discounted it to 200 euros/hr. He still went with her and told me she was exceptional in the room. Kind of put me off at the time with the initial exorbitant rate quote. But with well above average looks, an amazing body and gorgeous pussy lips, I'm still keen to try her out the next time I'm in Sharks. That is if her going rates are reasonable.

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;2906110]Hey BadBoyBilly,

What were Rosa's rates? And what services were included with those rates?

One guy I briefly spoke to said she initially quoted him 300 euros/hr but after some chit chat discounted it to 200 euros/hr. He still went with her and told me she was exceptional in the room. Kind of put me off at the time with the initial exorbitant rate quote. But with well above average looks, an amazing body and gorgeous pussy lips, I'm still keen to try her out the next time I'm in Sharks. That is if her going rates are reasonable.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]So, she try to fuck clients for 300/60 and when she doesn t have business, with arabic souk grocery, she discount 50% , just killing desire, when can t be GFE with such money talk. With my girls, we don t speak about money and no extra.

[QUOTE=Howie;2906110]Hey BadBoyBilly,..........................What were Rosa's rates? And what services were included with those rates?......................[/QUOTE]Pretty simple if I take them - 100/30 with real kissing / pussy licking / BBBJ and fucking. It aint complicated.

I refused Esther and another tall dark haired stunner who wanted extra 50 for kissing.

Speaking of Esther. She should sue for that titt job she got. Phuck they are ugly titts in this day and age but having said that she is still fun to talk to.

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[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2906302]Pretty simple if I take them - 100/30 with real kissing / pussy licking / BBBJ and fucking. It aint complicated.

I refused Esther and another tall dark haired stunner who wanted extra 50 for kissing.

Speaking of Esther. She should sue for that titt job she got. Phuck they are ugly titts in this day and age but having said that she is still fun to talk to.[/QUOTE]

As 100/30 is fast becoming pretty much the standard now at Sharks but with varying level of services, its good to hear that DFK, DATY and BBBJ is wholly inclusive with her rates. And she is a hot looker too.

Rosa is on my 'to do' list for next time. Those pussy lips of hers looks too god damn gorgeous to resist. I gotta try them out.

Thank BadBoyBilly for the reply.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Long420;2906374]Yes I agree its too dangerous to visit sharks for Asians now as there are dangerous pimps keeping an eye on them. Physical attack with knives is too risky and they cannot go to police as well because its not good for their reputation. The pimps might be operating together with the club to bring the girls so the security and club support them. Even the girls might be victims of human trafficking and loan sharks in Romania operated by pimps and the club sharks themselves.[/QUOTE]It seems like you are agreeing with yourself in the quotes. I wouldn't think that filing a police report would be reported to anyone in a home country unless someone is famous like a celebrity. That part seems dumb.

[QUOTE=Jfht65;2906089]Does she still work at Sharks? Can she speak German? Because I know a girl named Anastasia from Moldova. Your description matches her very well. She didn't know German, only English and she had a white skin when I saw her last time in February. But for some reason she told me that her name is Anastasia. Trying to find some reports about her on forums because I fell in love with her and I know too much about her personal life.[/QUOTE]I don't know Stacy changed her name. Last room with her could be a few months ago, she didn't mentioned that she uses new name. Your "Anastasia" ever live in Moscow before?

[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2906491]Why Pimps should be against asian? I mean which Is the reason? Asian bring Money to the girls so why Pimps should be against them?[/QUOTE]Maybe because many Asians pay more expensive and pimps want to be very honest and get only the right price for the right look = 50 per 30 , only for elegant with woman image beauty really fkissing. At least, if no pretty enough to pay for, but should be interesting to look at pimps on business.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2906535]I don't know Stacy changed her name. Last room with her could be a few months ago, she didn't mentioned that she uses new name. Your "Anastasia" ever live in Moscow before?[/QUOTE]Speak to her in Russian and You will really know. Maria and Rita speak Russian. Russian is so erotic while sex. Pity, dirty Putin is killing beautiful Russia.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2906535]I don't know Stacy changed her name. Last room with her could be a few months ago, she didn't mentioned that she uses new name. Your "Anastasia" ever live in Moscow before?[/QUOTE]No, she didn't live in Moscow, but now I definitely know that Anastaisa is Stacy, because all descriptions match her and the place where she sits is the same. She was so great, our time time together was unforgettable for me, I don't remember how many hours I've spent in the room, but I fell in love with her. Stacy told me a lot of things about her life, family, studies. I even know her real name and have a photo of her. Her eyes are so lovely and nice.

Is Ruby still at Sharks? I saw her last in January 2023. (Romania 27-28).

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2906694]Is Ruby still at Sharks? I saw her last in January 2023. (Romania 27-28).[/QUOTE]Ruby sitting at the bar close to Brenda, with glasses, funny when walking on heels, often playing on machines? I saw her on end of 2023 . No visit yet on 2024 when I find falling quality for looks don't worth rates asked, compare to some other German clubs with higher quality for girls for me for less expensive.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2906535]I don't know Stacy changed her name. Last room with her could be a few months ago, she didn't mentioned that she uses new name. Your "Anastasia" ever live in Moscow before?[/QUOTE]Very few weeks ago, she was still Stacy, asking 150/30 for GFE to my French friend, so he didn't go with her, when as I told him: I would not pay for her look.

I should have added a bit about Rosa 22 yo. She has only been in Sharks a few weeks. Previously worked a private house in Stuttgart where she worked 10-12 hrs / day 26 out of 30 days. She is just a star. Her performance impeccable. Equally as good as Alina or Catalena. And just a gorgeous personality to go with it.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2906812]I should have added a bit about Rosa 22 yo. She has only been in Sharks a few weeks. Previously worked a private house in Stuttgart where she worked 10-12 hrs / day 26 out of 30 days. She is just a star. Her performance impeccable. Equally as good as Alina or Catalena. And just a gorgeous personality to go with it.[/QUOTE]Katalea also came from a private house before starting Sharks on 9 July 2021. Funny, she told me I was her last client of her first day.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2906694]Is Ruby still at Sharks? I saw her last in January 2023. (Romania 27-28).[/QUOTE]Is this the girl with the anime / mange tattoos.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2906718]Very few weeks ago, she was still Stacy, asking 150/30 for GFE to my French friend, so he didn't go with her, when as I told him: I would not pay for her look.[/QUOTE]Charging 150/30 is too much to for any FKK girl, Even though I'm generous, and I won't budge on this.

Stacy still accepts 200/60 with GFE. Some customers might luckily get 150/60.

Some girls are willing to accept 300/120 min.

The current Sharks lineup is just average. There are fewer than 10% of the girls I'd be interested in going to a room with.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2907104]Charging 150/30 is too much to for any FKK girl, Even though I'm generous, and I won't budge on this.

Stacy still accepts 200/60 with GFE. Some customers might luckily get 150/60.

Some girls are willing to accept 300/120 min.

The current Sharks lineup is just average. There are fewer than 10% of the girls I'd be interested in going to a room with.[/QUOTE]Since snow white German I met weekly on May / June 2023 , having to compete with Germans and locals, with my only 200/ almost 90 , but she came to me when she saw me, asking for again, then big fall for looks for me, my French friend telling me few weeks ago: no elegant model type for You, and many average looks asking 150/30 and not really able to FK. Sharks casting became not good value for money, except very few. But other places for better value. For anal, seem not slim Baylies can provide, matter of size of course, probably not for monstro. I remember a German from escorting in NRW who proposed me on discovery for 60 , but after I fucked her just normal, she never proposed me again, when she was about 1,72 and not far from 60 kgs, not slim, but weekly, after showing me how to, she asked me to make her squirting and we laughed so much, really showering with her juice, making bed a swimming pool, when I paid for 1 h30 on 2022 , what little Romanians ask for 30 mn at Sharks. Short dacias more expensive than audi.

Hi folks,

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience here, it is very useful. I need help to find one lady, I saw here one year ago in Globe, Zurich. But people in Globe thread do not remember her, so I decided to ask here, since it is the most popular and active topic.

Her name is Cristina, she said she is from Romania, 170 sm, about 30 year old and above, very standard and classical body with no tattoos. And what makes her to look really special is her haircut: one year ago she had a bob with bangs (short hair till shoulders) hair style, and she looked very impressive too me, almost like Quorra character from Tron Legacy movie, or a dancer from Crazy Horse de Paris.

Have you ever seen her? I have to plan my vacation trip soon, and I do not know where to go.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=DenV;2907530]
Her name is Cristina, she said she is from Romania, 170 sm, about 30 year old and above, very standard and classical body with no tattoos. And what makes her to look really special is her haircut: one year ago she had a bob with bangs (short hair till shoulders) hair style, and she looked very impressive too me, almost like Quorra character from Tron Legacy movie, or a dancer from Crazy Horse de Paris.

Have you ever seen her? I have to plan my vacation trip soon, and I do not know where to go.

[/QUOTE]People on a french forum claim she was in Freubad as Daniela.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2906694]Is Ruby still at Sharks? [/QUOTE]Yes she is.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2906694]Is Ruby still at Sharks? I saw her last in January 2023. (Romania 27-28).[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw ruby this Tuesday.

But Wednesday I didn't see her.

Is there a additional charge for balls sucking.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2907572]People on a french forum claim she was in Freubad as Daniela.[/QUOTE]Thank you for help, I really appreciate it. Hopefully it was her. No doubts french people love her elegant and classic look. It is a beautiful day today!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2907236]Since snow white German I met weekly on May / June 2023 , having to compete with Germans and locals, with my only 200/ almost 90 , but she came to me when she saw me, asking for again, then big fall for looks for me, my French friend telling me few weeks ago: no elegant model type for You, and many average looks asking 150/30 and not really able to FK. Sharks casting became not good value for money, except very few. But other places for better value. For anal, seem not slim Baylies can provide, matter of size of course, probably not for monstro. I remember a German from escorting in NRW who proposed me on discovery for 60 , but after I fucked her just normal, she never proposed me again, when she was about 1,72 and not far from 60 kgs, not slim, but weekly, after showing me how to, she asked me to make her squirting and we laughed so much, really showering with her juice, making bed a swimming pool, when I paid for 1 h30 on 2022 , what little Romanians ask for 30 mn at Sharks. Short dacias more expensive than audi.[/QUOTE]I never know in which club you are referring too. Its always like someone weites something about a girl on a specific club and then you comment (to almost ever post here) that you met a girl somewhere behind the 7 mountains who was so impressed by You. This is impressive but not really helpful.

Very busy for a Wednesday and maybe mainly because of the end of Ramadan as after 12 midnight it was packed.

Maybe 100 girls with loads to choose a complete contrast to my oase visit the next day see report.

Had a couple of sessions 100/30 with incentive of CIM of another 50.

[QUOTE=KkenKumar;2907715]Is there a additional charge for balls sucking.[/QUOTE]Up to when I was there the years leading to 2020 during BBBJ I would guide their head towards the testicles and they would give them due attention but that was then. Now because the girls have gotten more mercenary they may want to charge extra for that. We'll have to wait to hear what boots on the ground say.

[QUOTE=DenV;2907769]Thank you for help, I really appreciate it. [/QUOTE]Forgot to mention that she wasn't seen since February.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2907867]Up to when I was there the years leading to 2020 during BBBJ I would guide their head towards the testicles and they would give them due attention but that was then. Now because the girls have gotten more mercenary they may want to charge extra for that. We'll have to wait to hear what boots on the ground say.[/QUOTE]But now, new world at Sharks: the shortest ask the most expensive with extra for FK, breathing, thinking, dreaming.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2907843]I never know in which club you are referring too. Its always like someone weites something about a girl on a specific club and then you comment (to almost ever post here) that you met a girl somewhere behind the 7 mountains who was so impressed by You. This is impressive but not really helpful.[/QUOTE]He makes ZERO sense in his post. Talks as if he lives next door to all the FKK's and is a god to all woman that claims to know.

Talks about his V8 jebberish, and brags about all other sorts. Can someone tell me how to mute or ignore this person please?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2907940]But now, new world at Sharks: the shortest ask the most expensive with extra for FK, breathing, thinking, dreaming.[/QUOTE]Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "the shortest". I may visit Sharks very soon, so I may want to stay clear of those "the shortest". Thanks.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2908175]Can someone tell me how to mute or ignore this person please?[/QUOTE]Forum Actions = General Settings = Edit Ignore List.

Unfortunately when others quote his posts you'll still see them.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2908203]Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "the shortest". I may visit Sharks very soon, so I may want to stay clear of those "the shortest". Thanks.[/QUOTE]He probably mainly mean simona / rose and alot other romania girls like vanessa, mara, julianna, emma melanie.

Those who at least want 200€/60 min and provide bad service for 100/30 min.

Simona is about 1,55 meter and asking upto 150-200€/30 min and 200-300€/60 min.

But lately those girls really don't get alot business in sharks.

I visited 5 days this month sharks.

I believe its true that all Romanian together made agreement about the pricing.

Almost all Romanians want 100/30€ (poor service) and 200€/60 min, same even higher.

BUT the good news is, sharks seems to have alot girls from other countries. (macedonia, french, latinos, turkey).

And most of them asking for 100/30 and 150€/60 min. And provide good service.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2908300]I visited 5 days this month sharks.

I believe its true that all Romanian together made agreement about the pricing.

Almost all Romanians want 100/30 (poor service) and 200/60 min, same even higher.

BUT the good news is, sharks seems to have alot girls from other countries. (macedonia, french, latinos, turkey).

And most of them asking for 100/30 and 150/60 min. And provide good service.[/QUOTE]Just arrived in Germany Macedonian could not work at Sharks. Which French for 150/60? When Lora was for 200/60 and Maxima asking 200/60 is not French, but did escort in France.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2908299]He probably mainly mean simona / rose and alot other romania girls like vanessa, mara, julianna, emma melanie.

Those who at least want 200/60 min and provide bad service for 100/30 min.

Simona is about 1,55 meter and asking upto 150-200/30 min and 200-300/60 min.

But lately those girls really don't get alot business in sharks.[/QUOTE]For sure, need at least to know a bit Sharks to be able to understand. Not sure, Simona is 1,55 bare feet, when only her naturals may worth, she needed to change name for her business? Celine who lost her fresh look at Oase, Stacy, also asking 150/30 for few baby Romanian kisses and not wow looks. Compare to what can be found elsewhere in Germany, when my standard is prettier than Sharks girls, for 150/60 and my regulars want to please me to make me returning from so far, when they don t have any other client coming almost weekly from so far, most of Sharks girls are bad value for quality for money they ask. I like Sharks for the club, but most girls are to fuck tourist in mind, when many other places and can find prettier and much more elegant than at Sharks.

I arrived around 6 pm and the club was moderately busy. I did recognise some faces since my last visit summer last year. Including one I fucked. She recognised me too but I did not feel the same attraction as last time, so nothing happened. My guess is that more than half were there last year.

Since my last visit they had added water stations at the dining area and by the sauna. Great improvement. I never once had to ask the bartenders for water. That used to be a surprisingly big problem.

I had one room, 22 year old Romanian, or was it Moldovan, Mila. Pretty light-colored eyes, slim with big and artificial, but very good-looking, tits. Lips were also done but it was looking alright. She looked both cute and slutty at the same time. Very pleasant girl. As nice in the room as outside, lots of kissing. A solid 4 out of 5 on the Tuna scale. I looked for her later in the evening but never saw her again. I guess she had good business or left early.

The bbq was not yet operational so for dinner I had the somewhat unremarkable buffet. Filling and edible.

Had plans for another session, but it never happened. I spotted two girls with huge tits that made Jonson react, but when I was ready they were gone. Oh, well, I got one good room and left on a high note. When I left at 10:30 pm it was relatively busy. Took a taxi to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2908299]He probably mainly mean simona / rose and alot other romania girls like vanessa, mara, julianna, emma melanie.

Those who at least want 200/60 min and provide bad service for 100/30 min.

Simona is about 1,55 meter and asking upto 150-200/30 min and 200-300/60 min.

But lately those girls really don't get alot business in sharks.[/QUOTE]Oh I see. It was literally the shortest. I thought that was an error from autocorrect or something.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2907917]Forgot to mention that she wasn't seen since February.[/QUOTE]We will find her. Patience is the key to good time. Please keep me posted if you get any news.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2908439]Just arrived in Germany Macedonian could not work at Sharks. Which French for 150/60? When Lora was for 200/60 and Maxima asking 200/60 is not French, but did escort in France.[/QUOTE]Same like Moldavia, around Iasie and Galati in Romania and Republic of Moldavia with Chisinau for capital but they can t work in FKK, Macedonia in Greece and North Macedonia but girls can t work in FKK.

[QUOTE=DenV;2908474]We will find her. Patience is the key to good time. Please keep me posted if you get any news.[/QUOTE]Yes, patience is good point for hunting, but when I never rush to jump on a girl, I missed some at Bruggen, Sharks, GG and I never saw them again. I m a so bad hunter, reason why I prefer my girls come, asking: You wait for me, or: You want me. More exciting for me than having to run after. I love when girls are talking with another guy, but looking and smiling at me. Funny. Like I love to fuck pimped or married, exciting for me, like at GG where married mum had 2 orgasmus in 30 minutes, when so reactive, when I touched inside her mind.

How are Weds there?

Seem some gypsy Romanians are now asking 200/30 for what they call GFE, what I call to pay this to be fucked. Sharks seem to be in Argentina. Most ask extra for kissing and not even sure real FK, but for sure, asking extra for kissing is 0 GFE.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2909772]Seem some gypsy Romanians are now asking 200/30 for what they call GFE,[/QUOTE]According to your post, it seems like you barely went to Sharks club this year. So please refrain from spreading unsustainable rumors and false alarms if you can not provide any name of gypsy girls who charge 250/30.

I know most of the girls at the club. If you don't know their names, just describe their appearance, and I may be able to identify them for you.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2909729]How are Weds there?[/QUOTE]Wednesdays are good. As entry price is reduced, there are many men, and thus many girls. Girls who do not work the whole week normally take Tuesdays or Thursdays off, but turn up on Wednesdays.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2909729]How are Weds there?[/QUOTE]Good to save 15 , to pay 150/200 for 30 or less minutes. 100/30 seem now to be for just basic fast sex. 150/60 is my full GFE standard elsewhere and 100/60 with beauties is still possible in many clubs in Germany.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2908300]I visited 5 days this month sharks.

I believe its true that all Romanian together made agreement about the pricing.

Almost all Romanians want 100/30 (poor service) and 200/60 min, same even higher.

BUT the good news is, sharks seems to have alot girls from other countries. (macedonia, french, latinos, turkey).

And most of them asking for 100/30 and 150/60 min. And provide good service.[/QUOTE]When north Macedonian can't work in FKK, but only those belonging to Greece, French now called Eveline seems to be gypsy or north African type with pierced nipples, speaking Romanian Emily who is not new. She is lovely with me when she knows I'm a real French, asking: You found love? But not French type for me, same than Maxima is not French, even speaking French after escorting in Strasburg. FR and they learn French in Tunisia.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2909947]Wednesdays are good.[/QUOTE]Was never there Wednesdays, how many women are there compared to Saturdays?

However if someone is from the region of heilbronn can PM me. I always offer entrance fee for Sharks if carpooling is possible.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2909930]According to your post, it seems like you barely went to Sharks club this year. So please refrain from spreading unsustainable rumors and false alarms if you can not provide any name of gypsy girls who charge 250/30.

I know most of the girls at the club. If you don't know their names, just describe their appearance, and I may be able to identify them for you.[/QUOTE]Read on German forum what ask gypsy Claudia, or Simona Rose and when so many French visit, telling me Celine ex Oase, Stacy, ask 150/30 for few kiss, even Melissa increased, maybe to pay her ugly new tattoo on leg. I don t even need to visit, when I receive weekly information. I prefer to spend elsewhere on prettier, more elegant and real GFE for 150/60 or 100/60, when I don't like to be fucked like a tourist.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2909930]According to your post, it seems like you barely went to Sharks club this year. So please refrain from spreading unsustainable rumors and false alarms if you can not provide any name of gypsy girls who charge 250/30.

I know most of the girls at the club. If you don't know their names, just describe their appearance, and I may be able to identify them for you.[/QUOTE]I didn't write 250/30 but 200/30 which is already fully crazy, when asked not by Miss Universe, but average looks for who I would not pay 100/60 , when for a quality guy like me, 1 hour is higher quality than fast 30 minutes. I never saw other than Lora. FR worthing 200/60 and because she was french educated and very fresh, when Jasmin. De from Munchen escorting did discount down to 150/60 after our discovery when she experienced how I do and I paid 200/85+ German snow white weekly on May / June.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2910018]Was never there Wednesdays, how many women are there compared to Saturdays?[/QUOTE]Absolute numbers vary greatly depending on season, and in the run up to Orthodox Easter I expect a reduction.

But in terms of proportion, Wednesdays would be 50% more than Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Fridays and Saturdays would be 50% more than Wednesdays. Wednesdays are about equal to Sundays, where there is reduced early entry price.

How much is a taxi from Sharks to FRA flughafen around midnight on a Friday or Saturday?

Is the airliner bus an alternative? Easy to find the bus-stop at hauptbahnhof?

Is uber or bolt taxi operating?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2910502]How much is a taxi from Sharks to FRA flughafen around midnight on a Friday or Saturday?

Is the airliner bus an alternative? Easy to find the bus-stop at hauptbahnhof?

Is uber or bolt taxi operating?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes UBER is the go. Much cheaper than taxi. Only problem is availability of UBER late at night is quite sparse and you might be forced back to taxi to get you home.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2910502]
Is the airliner bus an alternative? Easy to find the bus-stop at hauptbahnhof?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Last airliner bus everyday is at 2330, arriving at the airport at midnight. The one before that is at 2300.

Easy to find. Go to the southern end (not the front nor the western end) of the station, go past the taxi rank, and it is the nearest bus stop in the collection of bus stops there. There is a clear sign saying Airliner. Cost is 10.10 euros. Pay to conductor. Do not try to book a cheaper fare electronically through some apps as it is not applicable to the Airliner. For the cheaper fare, you have to take local buses that take ages, and requires a change of bus.

Thanks for replies.

When do Girls, in general, leave for othodox easter and when do they come back (this year) ?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2910502]How much is a taxi from Sharks to FRA flughafen around midnight on a Friday or Saturday?

Is the airliner bus an alternative? Easy to find the bus-stop at hauptbahnhof?

Is uber or bolt taxi operating?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can also get the X15 bus. If leaves at 12:01 am from the intersection of Otto-Rohm-Straße and Carl-Schenck-Ring (near McDonalds) about a 15 minute walk from Sharks. It's cheaper than the Airliner but also slower, it takes 50 minutes to get to the airport.

If you aren't sure where you are going the Airliner might be a better bet though as it's easier to find.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2910802]You can also get the X15 bus. If leaves at 12:01 am from the intersection of Otto-Rohm-Strae and Carl-Schenck-Ring (near McDonalds) about a 15 minute walk from Sharks. It's cheaper than the Airliner but also slower, it takes 50 minutes to get to the airport.

If you aren't sure where you are going the Airliner might be a better bet though as it's easier to find.[/QUOTE]Yes, I used to take this bus pre-Corona when I usually stayed in Hotel Contel at Otto Rohm Strasse. The X15 bus stop is just across the junction from Contel. I would leave my luggage in Contel, and at the end of my time in Sharks, walk 7 minutes to Contel, pick up my luggage and then catch the X15 bus for the 50-minute ride. Catching the X15 instead of the Airliner makes sense when staying in Contel, as it saves the journey to the Darmstadt Haupbanhof. (I hope Hotel Contel starts allowing reservations on booking platforms again. Currently, it is operational but does not seem to be listed in the platforms.)

However, the Airliner is more comfortable as it is like a tourist coach with padded seats and luggage racks. The X15 is a normal local bus (similar to the R Bus). Therefore, if I am staying in a hotel next to the station, I would rather pay the extra 3 euros to catch the Airliner and save 20 minutes.

Final advice to Pinball. There is massive construction work going on at Frankfurt Airport. The bus will thus deliver you to a makeshift stop. Just follow the crowd to get to the building 20 metres away that connects to the airport. Before the construction started, one could just cross the road to get to the airport.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2910668]Thanks for replies.

When do Girls, in general, leave for othodox easter and when do they come back (this year) ?[/QUOTE]Orthodox Easter is on 5 May. Very important for Romanians.

Hello,

I've question about how to pay the girls. I tried to find this information but couldn't, if it was there, sorry.

I've never been to a FKK club and want to try sharks Saturday, so once you enter you get naked, leave your phone, clothes in a locker and put in a towel / robe as I understand. How do you carry the money? Do you have to go back to locker each time? You're not allowed to carry your phone or anything correct?

[QUOTE=Boramirbarbon;2911000]Hello,

I've question about how to pay the girls. I tried to find this information but couldn't, if it was there, sorry.

I've never been to a FKK club and want to try sharks Saturday, so once you enter you get naked, leave your phone, clothes in a locker and put in a towel / robe as I understand. How do you carry the money? Do you have to go back to locker each time? You're not allowed to carry your phone or anything correct?[/QUOTE]Money in clothes locker or small locker or in robe pocket. Don t tell this is your first time and pay only after room, when many behavior like gypsy called chicken robbers now at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Boramirbarbon;2911000]Hello,

I've question about how to pay the girls. I tried to find this information but couldn't, if it was there, sorry.

I've never been to a FKK club and want to try sharks Saturday, so once you enter you get naked, leave your phone, clothes in a locker and put in a towel / robe as I understand. How do you carry the money? Do you have to go back to locker each time? You're not allowed to carry your phone or anything correct?[/QUOTE]The locker for your valuable belongings (not the one for your clothes) is in the large hall, close to the girls changing eoom. Basically you will put your money into the locker. When you come from the room together with the girl you will go there, take your money out of the locker and pay her. She will then disappear theough the door nearby into the girls changing room.

This systems applies to almost every FKK.

[QUOTE=Boramirbarbon;2911000]Hello,

I've question about how to pay the girls. I tried to find this information but couldn't, if it was there, sorry.

I've never been to a FKK club and want to try sharks Saturday, so once you enter you get naked, leave your phone, clothes in a locker and put in a towel / robe as I understand. How do you carry the money? Do you have to go back to locker each time? You're not allowed to carry your phone or anything correct?[/QUOTE]There are two lockers. The one in the locker room for clothes and shoes. Drop your stuff there but keep condoms and appropriate money w you. Then when you enter the club area, on the right are much smaller lockers. The number is same as your clothes locker.

If you prefer your own condoms you can ask the girl to wait one second and grab them before the deed. Payment is always after. She will accompany you to the small locker to get paid.

1. No more mouthwash. All the dispensers have been dismantled from both the front and rear toilets. You now have to bring your own.

2. Yesterday, I was issued with a really worn-out frayed dark-blue robe, that was introduced since its early days. It must have been used at least a thousand times. As there were not many customers present, it could not be that they ran out of the light-blue lightweight robes.

Side-note for Airliner users. A gap has been opened through the construction area beneath the overhead crossing. So there is no more need to go up to the overhead crossing. Saves a few minutes.

Line up is only about 10% less than usual Fridays - not much impact yet of the Orthodox Easter. But more girls will be leaving early next week. One girl moaned that airfares to Romania for coming week have almost doubled.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2911222]1. No more mouthwash. All the dispensers have been dismantled from both the front and rear toilets. You now have to bring your own.[/QUOTE]In the near future it is planned that you will only have to pay 2.50 euros for the beer you bring with you into Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2911062]Money in clothes locker or small locker or in robe pocket.[/QUOTE]Money in the robe pocket could fall out when you're lying or lounging flat on the benches outside.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2911222]
Yesterday, I was issued with a really worn-out frayed dark-blue robe, that was introduced since its early days. It must have been used at least a thousand times.
[/QUOTE]I've had to ditch the worn out robes and use towels (I go to Sharks in the summertime when its too hot for a robe). One towel wrapped around my waist and another one draped over my shoulder. I've seen plenty of folks bring their own personal robes and slippers as well.

I dont think its the robe use, I think its the endless washing and machine drying thats destroying the fabric. After washing, I rack dry and air dry a lot of my clothes for that exact same reason.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2911257]In the near future it is planned that you will only have to pay 2.50 euros for the beer you bring with you into Sharks.[/QUOTE]No need for mouthwash, when most girls ask extra for baby kiss.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2910668]Thanks for replies.

When do Girls, in general, leave for othodox easter and when do they come back (this year) ?[/QUOTE]I was there this weekend. A small sample but I asked 5 girls about their Easter plans 3 were going on holiday from today, 1 (and her friend were staying) another was staying but would take the Sunday, Monday and Tuesday off.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2911222]1. No more mouthwash. All the dispensers have dismantled from both the front and rear toilets. You now have to bring your own.
[/QUOTE]I tended to bring my own as the supplied mouthwash seemed very cheap. Can't say I'm surprised at some cost cutting, their profit from male guests must be a lot lower with costs rocketing.

I think it shows the advantage of competition, I imagine they would want to put prices up but are worried about losing customers to Oase. Artemis which has no nearby competition happily increased entry to 90 euros.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2903810]Nice report. Thanks.

Yeah, the quotes at Sharks continue to be hilarious. Your experience matches mine and is also echoed in the local forums: 100 E /30 is still going rate at Sharks (top optics / good performance), but even that quote is not good enough among an increasing number of girls. You did right to remind everyone of making sure minimum services are provided in the price. Or, you will quickly be asked to pay extra for services like kissing once inside the room. Just hilarious.

Note: Some girls who quote 150 E /30 for a good performance may be willing to extend time to 45 mnts for the same price/performance. Just an idea when negotiating (although personally I would rather pass on girls who upsell).

Oase is not much better IME. Luckily my regulars continue to provide excellent services at a favourable rate. At World a majority of girls will quote 150 E /60 with excellent performance, but not all. And as we know, World cannot compete with Sharks / Oase with regard to optic quality. Pickings are slim..[/QUOTE]So if Oase and Sharks are no longer good value for the money, are there any hidden gems clubs in Frankfurt area where there's less upselling and better service? When I was in Sharks and Oase in February the constant up-selling was a big turn off for me- I'd much rather go somewhere with less beautiful girls and better bang for the buck.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2911713]I tended to bring my own as the supplied mouthwash seemed very cheap. Can't say I'm surprised at some cost cutting, their profit from male guests must be a lot lower with costs rocketing.

I think it shows the advantage of competition, I imagine they would want to put prices up but are worried about losing customers to Oase. Artemis which has no nearby competition happily increased entry to 90 euros.[/QUOTE]Management can thank bad value for money girls, if Sharks business is falling, when why to pay girls more expensive when most are lower level than elsewhere. Only for tourists who like to be fucked, when little Romanians ask more expensive than German escorts.

[QUOTE=Lubriderm69;2911789]So if Oase and Sharks are no longer good value for the money, are there any hidden gems clubs in Frankfurt area where there's less upselling and better service? When I was in Sharks and Oase in February the constant up-selling was a big turn off for me- I'd much rather go somewhere with less beautiful girls and better bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]I wish there was an easy and precise answer to this, but if so, I would not know. I can merely give you some thoughts:

1.

World has less upselling than Oase / Sharks IME. Just don't deceive yourself to believe that World is a safe place. Upselling exist even here, but to a lesser extent.

2.

That there is less upselling at World than Sharks / Oase lead me to think that there is less upselling the further away from central Frankfurt you visit (I. E. Avoid Palace / Sharks / Oase). This has worked well for me in the past, but I have no recent experience to support this theory (except for World).

3.

You often read that locals get decent sessions at smaller clubs (Rom / Atlanta/Bahama/D40) for 50 E. The challenge is that girls often will change their rates when they see a tourist. I have no recent personal experience, but you may try your luck and charm out there. I may too. Speak as much German as you can to confuse the girls (maybe you are not from Germany, but say that you have worked in Germany for many years?).

4.

Repeat with the best girls (hot girl / good perfomance / correct pricing). This is probably my best advice, although may not be everyone's cup of tea.

5.

Learn the going rates. ALWAYS agree with the girl about pricing / performance before you commit to a session. Be straight that you will not pay for extras unless she has specified her extras before you go to the room. If she quotes too high, then say politely no thank you. NEVER act like a pushover. Rumours about pushovers spread like wildfire among the girls.

6.

If it is a new girl, then I'd be reluctant to commit to more than a 100E/30 session. But I may add that if the session is good (good BJ/DATY/fkissing) I may extend to one hour for 150E. See her reaction and make a decision.

7.

If the girl tries to change the agreement once you are inside the room, just say "sorry, I can't continue this way" and leave the room. I had this happening to me on my last visit. On that occasion the girl changed her mind and agreed to stick to the original agreement. But my mood was ruined, and I kinda regret that I did not abort the session (the front desk will support you as long as no sexual interaction has incurred).

8.

Last year I had an argument about pricing with the girl after the session. She wanted 50 E more than original agreed. I stuck to my guns and let her have the presession agreed amount. She was pissed at the money lockers, but took the money and left in a huff. If she wanted to continue to argue, I was ready to take her to the front desk and explain the situation. As embarassing as it may be for a gent to be in such a situation, be assured that it is even more embarassing for the girl. She risks being kicked out ouf the club (yeah, it happens).

9.

Maybe it is time to leave Frankfurt and look to the NRW? The thought is growing on me. If not for my Hessen regulars who continue to provide excellent sessions at a fair / favourable price, then I'd be on my way.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Lubriderm69;2911789]So if Oase and Sharks are no longer good value for the money, are there any hidden gems clubs in Frankfurt area where there's less upselling and better service? When I was in Sharks and Oase in February the constant up-selling was a big turn off for me- I'd much rather go somewhere with less beautiful girls and better bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]Out of Orthodox Easter, Atlanta where still 50/30 and few quite pretty. NRW is also much better value. Sharks is now for tourists who will pay little dacias more expensive than German escorts, quite funny. Sharks may worth for me for only very few Germans, when audi worth more expensive for me than dacia.

I did a physical count at 7 pm yesterday, as that would be when all the girls have arrived.

I counted 57 in the lounge. Since the downstairs rooms are all full, and the upstairs rooms are half full, there should be about 15 girls in the rooms. There were none in the jacuzzi area, and none in the ex-kino. Assuming 5 girls in the changing room, that brings the total to 77. This is not much less than in a normal Monday in Sharks.

But as is the case in Oase, all the 3 girls I went with said that they will be going home this week to be on time for Easter this weekend. They said that they would be back in Sharks one week after Easter.

In summary, from my actual counts in Sharks and Oase that I did yesterday and on Sunday respectively, the Orthodox Easter exodus does not happen until the week before Easter. And the girls return to Germany a week after that.

As for the quality of girls, from my personal point of view, there is no difference between Sharks and Oase. But as Sharks has double the number of girls, the chances that I would find a good one is doubled.

For those who were asking she is finally back [URL]http://club-globe.ch/en/girls-detail.php?id=1480[/URL].

[QUOTE=Shark16;2911848]I wish there was an easy and precise answer to this, but if so, I would not know. I can merely give you some thoughts:

1.

World has less upselling than Oase / Sharks IME. Just don't deceive yourself to believe that World is a safe place. Upselling exist even here, but to a lesser extent.

2.

That there is less upselling at World than Sharks / Oase lead me to think that there is less upselling the further away from central Frankfurt you visit (I. E. Avoid Palace / Sharks / Oase). This has worked well for me in the past, but I have no recent experience to support this theory (except for World).

3.

You often read that locals get decent sessions at smaller clubs (Rom / Atlanta/Bahama/D40) for 50 E. The challenge is that girls often will change their rates when they see a tourist. I have no recent personal experience, but you may try your luck and charm out there. I may too. Speak as much German as you can to confuse the girls (maybe you are not from Germany, but say that you have worked in Germany for many years?).

4.

Repeat with the best girls (hot girl / good perfomance / correct pricing). This is probably my best advice, although may not be everyone's cup of tea.

5.

Learn the going rates. ALWAYS agree with the girl about pricing / performance before you commit to a session. Be straight that you will not pay for extras unless she has specified her extras before you go to the room. If she quotes too high, then say politely no thank you. NEVER act like a pushover. Rumours about pushovers spread like wildfire among the girls.

6.

If it is a new girl, then I'd be reluctant to commit to more than a 100E/30 session. But I may add that if the session is good (good BJ/DATY/fkissing) I may extend to one hour for 150E. See her reaction and make a decision.

7.

If the girl tries to change the agreement once you are inside the room, just say "sorry, I can't continue this way" and leave the room. I had this happening to me on my last visit. On that occasion the girl changed her mind and agreed to stick to the original agreement. But my mood was ruined, and I kinda regret that I did not abort the session (the front desk will support you as long as no sexual interaction has incurred).

8.

Last year I had an argument about pricing with the girl after the session. She wanted 50 E more than original agreed. I stuck to my guns and let her have the presession agreed amount. She was pissed at the money lockers, but took the money and left in a huff. If she wanted to continue to argue, I was ready to take her to the front desk and explain the situation. As embarassing as it may be for a gent to be in such a situation, be assured that it is even more embarassing for the girl. She risks being kicked out ouf the club (yeah, it happens).

9.

Maybe it is time to leave Frankfurt and look to the NRW? The thought is growing on me. If not for my Hessen regulars who continue to provide excellent sessions at a fair / favourable price, then I'd be on my way.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for this insightful reply. You have made some excellent points and I have saved your post for my future reference.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2912163]For those who were asking she is finally back [URL]http://club-globe.ch/en/girls-detail.php?id=1480[/URL].[/QUOTE]She worked at Sharks? I never noticed her. Very good example for niagara fall for expensive Globe looks, when I would not pay 50 for such look, but 160€/30 in low level dark rooms at Globe, when I see beds which are ready in beautiful GG garden.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2912163]For those who were asking she is finally back [URL]http://club-globe.ch/en/girls-detail.php?id=1480[/URL].[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't understand one of Globe staff back to be fucked? Look like silicon?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2911859]Out of Orthodox Easter, Atlanta where still 50/30 and few quite pretty. NRW is also much better value. Sharks is now for tourists who will pay little dacias more expensive than German escorts, quite funny. Sharks may worth for me for only very few Germans, when audi worth more expensive for me than dacia.[/QUOTE]I will be traveling by car from Switzerland to Cologne / Bonn area this Sunday. Which club on the route (Frankfurt area) or in NRW should I visit for a fit, good looking and good service girl?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2912322]She worked at Sharks? I never noticed her. Very good example for niagara fall for expensive Globe looks, when I would not pay 50 for such look, but 160/30 in low level dark rooms at Globe, when I see beds which are ready in beautiful GG garden.[/QUOTE]Siri,

For fuck's sake. This is the probably most well known female employee of the club. She was immensely popular as a WG and has gone back to being that now.

What you, or I or anyone else, think is irrelevant as long as there are enough of fans. It was pointed out that she was most likely fully booked.

Guess what? There are at least 2 women on the staff that I would pay a premium to fuck. Just because.

Maybe learn to deal with the fact that people like different things.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2912732]Siri,

For fuck's sake. This is the probably most well known female employee of the club. She was immensely popular as a WG and has gone back to being that now.

What you, or I or anyone else, think is irrelevant as long as there are enough of fans. It was pointed out that she was most likely fully booked.

Guess what? There are at least 2 women on the staff that I would pay a premium to fuck. Just because.

Maybe learn to deal with the fact that people like different things.[/QUOTE]Even with photoshop, not pretty face and short when bare feet, when Globe clients pay expensive for very average looks when they just don't know else, compare to before 2018 . Naturals, or silicon?

[QUOTE=Pincox;2912711]I will be traveling by car from Switzerland to Cologne / Bonn area this Sunday. Which club on the route (Frankfurt area) or in NRW should I visit for a fit, good looking and good service girl?[/QUOTE]This Sunday is worst day of the year for FKK = Orthodox easter is very important for Romanians. Should be some girls at Sharks or Oase.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2912822]Naturals, or silicon?[/QUOTE]Clearly silicon in that picture. Unfortunately. Silicon sucks.

Will the front desk at sharks exchange 200 euros notes for me? Or at least accept it.

Hey,

I've been a frequent Oase & Artemis visitor pre-pandemic, however have been focusing my habit on SEA in the past few years.

It so happens that I have a 6 hour layover in Frankfurt next month and was considering a day-time venture to one of the FKKs.

Which would you best recommend that is:

1. Easiest to reach from the airport and back (assuming one needs public transport)?

2. Has the best daytime action (I have between noon & 4. 30 PM to stick around).

3. Would treat someone who's used to the good old 50 eur /30 m days at Oase nicest?

TIA,

BD.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2912732]Siri,

For fuck's sake. This is the probably most well known female employee of the club. She was immensely popular as a WG and has gone back to being that now.

What you, or I or anyone else, think is irrelevant as long as there are enough of fans. It was pointed out that she was most likely fully booked.

Guess what? There are at least 2 women on the staff that I would pay a premium to fuck. Just because.

Maybe learn to deal with the fact that people like different things.[/QUOTE]Perhaps its only me but anytime I read a poster criticizing women's looks on this board I think that they have an inferiority complex and are trying to convince readers that they are significant.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2913306]Perhaps its only me but anytime I read a poster criticizing women's looks on this board I think that they have an inferiority complex and are trying to convince readers that they are significant.[/QUOTE]Yes, You are right, good to pay for uglies. Same like paying more expensive for lower quality at Sharks or Globe. Because of my so big complex, I prefer to pay for elegance looking like woman, for 150/60 for real GFE when You feel they want to really please You back after their pleasure. My standard with my complex.

[QUOTE=BoomBoomBoom;2912958]Will the front desk at sharks exchange 200 euros notes for me? Or at least accept it.[/QUOTE]Yes. No problem. And they will very gladly accept 500 Euro notes too, as these are now in short supply since they are no longer being printed.

Went to Sharks a few days ago. Arrived at 2 pm, not a lot of girls obviously and not many guys either. Weather was good so spent some time outside, just relaxing, then enjoying the jacuzzi. More girls came later and it was a pretty decent lineup till I left at midnight. I spotted a few girls I've never seen before and luckily, the three choices I made turned out to be mostly great.

Roberta.

"21"yo 160-ish cm romanian with blue eyes (or green, I forgot). Was working in Oase before. Hottest girl I saw that day for me, short with a smacking 10/10 hot body. Cute face with sultry eyes, great ass, hourglass shaped body and tits that felt surpisingly full in the hand. What a pleasure to grope them for a good 5 minutes, it was like holding good silicone tits. But natural. She wasn't shy and was looking directly in my eyes while we fucked. She wasn't very tight though and with a bit too much lube, I had to ask her to finish me with her hand. Still a very enjoyable session with a hot friendly girl.

WR: hell yes, looking forward to it!

Rahel.

"20"yo romanian blonde with short hair. Used to work in a club in Munich. Looked friendly outside of the room, with a delicious looking ass that I admired for a good 5 min before going with her in the room. She easily had 6-8 sessions that day. Generally enjoyable session but with a couple of serious minus points: she took a good punding but then asked me (politely) to finish after 9 min of PIV and then she stayed only 20-2 minutes in the room and that's after she wanted to leave the room basically after I came. Refused to lay by my side as she says she doesn't do that. Didn't want me to touch her tits after the deed.

WR: no, she is hot but I dislike time-cutters plus her attitude changed after I was done.

Betty.

"20"yo 170 cm romanian brunette with brown eyes who used to work in Oase. Saw this cutie sitting by herself, not really interested in looking for work. That should have been a red flag but something about her face. And she was polite with people talking to her and smiling, unlike another girl I was eyeing and with whom I was before and who always look pissed off. I almost went back with her but decided against it thankfully. I waited a long time for her to get up so I could judge her body but she didn't. Ended up going to her and she was even cuter up close. Said she was leaving the next day so that's why she wasn't really looking for work. Man that face. Very cute and innocent look that got me hard. I'd describe her close to those "teens" with braces you see on BrattySis, though she didn't have braces. Small tits but enough to play with. While she was wearing makeup, you could see a real "human texture" to her skin which I really really liked, not like those painted faces. She was more very cute GND than sultry pornstar. Went to the room and couldn't resist kissing her, which I almost never do as I'm not interested in an FKK. She went along with it (we didn't discuss anything beforehand), then a little bit of foreplay that got me rock hard, followed by an enjoyable session and then general talk while we cuddled. She stayed the whole 30 min to the T. Great girl. She said she'd leave the next day for one week or more.

WR: 100%, I hope to see her again and again!

All in all, I had a fantastic day. I was ready to spend more time in Oase only as I've had good sessions with Bianca and some other girls the few last times and terrible last sessions in Sharks but girls make or break a good day and the club, and I was greatly impressed this time. I need to go back to Roberta and Betta!

Anyone knows the name of the female barkeeper, that used to work as WG and used to sits under the fishtank.

She has black hair, cute face, 34 FK.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2913306]Perhaps its only me but anytime I read a poster criticizing women's looks on this board I think that they have an inferiority complex and are trying to convince readers that they are significant.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you, and sadly he never mentions any alternatives. People have different tastes, unfortunately there is zero respect for this from this guy.

By the way, your PM inbox is full, please delete some older messages.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2913444]Went to Sharks a few days ago. Arrived at 2 pm, not a lot of girls obviously and not many guys either. Weather was good so spent some time outside, just relaxing, then enjoying the jacuzzi. More girls came later and it was a pretty decent lineup till I left at midnight. I spotted a few girls I've never seen before and luckily, the three choices I made turned out to be mostly great.

Rahel.

"20"yo romanian blonde with short hair. Used to work in a club in Munich. Looked friendly outside of the room, with a delicious looking ass that I admired for a good 5 min before going with her in the room. She easily had 6-8 sessions that day. Generally enjoyable session but with a couple of serious minus points: she took a good punding but then asked me (politely) to finish after 9 min of PIV and then she stayed only 20-2 minutes in the room and that's after she wanted to leave the room basically after I came. Refused to lay by my side as she says she doesn't do that. Didn't want me to touch her tits after the deed.

WR: no, she is hot but I dislike time-cutters plus her attitude changed after I was done.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, did you mean long hair rather than short hair? On my last visit I met Rachel who used in work in Munich and was around 20 with long blond hair. She sat at the couches close to the money lockers. Looks wise she was absolute quality for me, really hot. There was a clear expectation that as soon as I'd finished we'd leave. Was curious if it was the same girl (maybe she's had her hair cut since I last went). I will repeat her at least once more just because the looks were so good.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2913494]I completely agree with you, and sadly he never mentions any alternatives. People have different tastes, unfortunately there is zero respect for this from this guy.

By the way, your PM inbox is full, please delete some older messages.[/QUOTE]While I may be guilty of living in the past from time to time. The purpose of the board is to share facts, some impressions, and general conditions during visits so we can make the most of our choices. Asking why I went to a club isn't helpful. Just don't follow in my footsteps if you don't like the report.

Ok. Putting my soapbox away. I'm in Frankfurt in a month and will report.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2913494]I completely agree with you, and sadly he never mentions any alternatives. People have different tastes, unfortunately there is zero respect for this from this guy.

By the way, your PM inbox is full, please delete some older messages.[/QUOTE]It is far worse than you will ever imagine. He does a single 30 min session per week and spend the rest of his day spying and observing in order to post on this board. The board is easier to read since I discovered the black list option.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2913533]While I may be guilty of living in the past from time to time. The purpose of the board is to share facts, some impressions, and general conditions during visits so we can make the most of our choices. Asking why I went to a club isn't helpful. Just don't follow in my footsteps if you don't like the report.

Ok. Putting my soapbox away. I'm in Frankfurt in a month and will report.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you have a history with the poster you replied to but his comment was almost certainly about someone else.

It was me that started that comment chain by pointing out that people like different things and a certain someone should take note.

You'd think that someone who writes so much in this thread should have posts that helped me decide if I wanted to go back to Sharks but I'm out of luck.

Two weeks ago, I was in Frankfurt for a business trip. After wrapping up work, I headed to Sharks around 6 pm. It was Tuesday, a particularly slow day. As I walked in, I noticed an unfamiliar girl seated on the entrance couch where Lina usually sat. She appeared quite charming. Her name sounds like Rachel. 20 yo. She said she worked at Munich for two years, and just came to Sharks for a few days. I decided to take her, 100/30.

As we were going upstairs, she suddenly asked if I could speak French. I said no and asked why. She just said it wasn't important. I wondered if she thought I was someone else S.

In the room, she wanted me to pay upfront before we started. I said I'd pay her a tip later if everything went well. But she insisted on payment first, which made me think the service might not be great. It turned out to be just okay. Then, all of a sudden, she said we only had five minutes left. I hadn't checked the time when we came in, but I was sure we hadn't been room for more than 15 minutes. She offered to help me finish using her hand. To hear that, I lost interest and ended game. Wasted 100 euros.

In German board, quite a lot customers like her. Maybe she could speak German.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2913504]Thanks for the report, did you mean long hair rather than short hair? On my last visit I met Rachel who used in work in Munich and was around 20 with long blond hair. She sat at the couches close to the money lockers. Looks wise she was absolute quality for me, really hot. There was a clear expectation that as soon as I'd finished we'd leave. Was curious if it was the same girl (maybe she's had her hair cut since I last went). I will repeat her at least once more just because the looks were so good.[/QUOTE]Nah she had short hair. Though Rachel? That wasn't a mistake when I wrote Rahel because this is how I heard it. But yes this girl was staying all the time in this part of Sharks, couches near the lockers and what you're saying seems to fit.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2913545]I don't know if you have a history with the poster you replied to but his comment was almost certainly about someone else.

It was me that started that comment chain by pointing out that people like different things and a certain someone should take note.

You'd think that someone who writes so much in this thread should have posts that helped me decide if I wanted to go back to Sharks but I'm out of luck.[/QUOTE]I wasn't picking on HammerTime, I agree with his and your comment. Especially that we all like different things AND I was trying to add to the post. Basically, I was pointing out the fact that this is review board and if anyone doesn't like what I say (and trust me, many people disagree with my choice of women, including my last two wives and several of my GFs), they are free to not see the same girls, go to a different club, or just write their own review. I am just reporting what I got, what I saw when I was at a club and what I paid. And if I paid too much... well see my comment about ex wives and gfs'.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2913504]Thanks for the report, did you mean long hair rather than short hair? On my last visit I met Rachel who used in work in Munich and was around 20 with long blond hair. She sat at the couches close to the money lockers. Looks wise she was absolute quality for me, really hot. There was a clear expectation that as soon as I'd finished we'd leave. Was curious if it was the same girl (maybe she's had her hair cut since I last went). I will repeat her at least once more just because the looks were so good.[/QUOTE]Last week she had medium length hair but tied up such that it looks short unless released. She complained that there was a guy who stuck to her like a leech every day talking to her and keeping potential customers away, while only having a short room per day with her.

And yes, she was keen to quickly end the session once we finished. But she was a pretty and friendly girl.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2913468]Anyone knows the name of the female barkeeper, that used to work as WG and used to sits under the fishtank.

She has black hair, cute face, 34 FK.[/QUOTE]Theodora. She was not very good in the room and is no better as a barkeeper. Just lazy.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2913625]Theodora. She was not very good in the room and is no better as a barkeeper. Just lazy.[/QUOTE]And not firm skin on ass, when so not old, maybe she warmed too much ass in couch under fish.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2913580]I wasn't picking on HammerTime, I agree with his and your comment. Especially that we all like different things AND I was trying to add to the post. Basically, I was pointing out the fact that this is review board and if anyone doesn't like what I say (and trust me, many people disagree with my choice of women, including my last two wives and several of my GFs), they are free to not see the same girls, go to a different club, or just write their own review. I am just reporting what I got, what I saw when I was at a club and what I paid. And if I paid too much... well see my comment about ex wives and gfs'.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I must have misunderstood you, and it looks like we're in agreement.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2913599]Last week she had medium length hair but tied up such that it looks short unless released. She complained that there was a guy who stuck to her like a leech every day talking to her and keeping potential customers away, while only having a short room per day with her.

And yes, she was keen to quickly end the session once we finished. But she was a pretty and friendly girl.[/QUOTE]Ah, it was released when I saw her, I asked her if she preferred Munich to Sharks and she said Sharks was better. In the Munich FKK she said the price was 100 euros for half an hour with another 50 euros extra for OWO but she was sat around with no customers for a lot of the day where as in Sharks all girls charge 100 euros for half an hour including OWO but she was much busier.

I only saw her briefly outside the room and the only girl I saw her talking to was Celine who based on my experience charges the Munich rates in Sharks.

Agree she was pretty (one of the prettiest girls I've met in Sharks) and friendly, hopefully she won't adopt Celine's pricing structure.

Celine who was more fresh look at Oase without now heavy make up, was also for less expensive, when Sharks is now for inflation by girls. So good to be able to get full GFE from girls who really show You they want You go with them, really no need to run when they come as soon they see me and doing all in bed to please You to make You return, for 150/60 , when for real GFE, 1 full hour and sometimes even too short for my whole game, is higher quality, for same rate than 30 mn with Celine. Still exist in Germany, when many other clubs, some where 100/60 and even with Germans.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2913444]

Roberta.
"21"yo 160-ish cm romanian with blue eyes (or green, I forgot). Was working in Oase before. Hottest girl I saw that day for me, short with a smacking 10/10 hot body. Cute face with sultry eyes, great ass, hourglass shaped body and tits that felt surpisingly full in the hand. What a pleasure to grope them for a good 5 minutes, it was like holding good silicone tits. But natural. She wasn't shy and was looking directly in my eyes while we fucked. She wasn't very tight though and with a bit too much lube, I had to ask her to finish me with her hand. Still a very enjoyable session with a hot friendly girl.
![/QUOTE]Is this the same Roberta from Oase? It seems her age doesn't quite match up. The Roberta at Oase is 19 now and has a tattoo in the chest area. Maybe this new Roberta used different name at Oase.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2913540]It is far worse than you will ever imagine. He does a single 30 min session per week and spend the rest of his day spying and observing in order to post on this board. The board is easier to read since I discovered the black list option.[/QUOTE]Telling 30 mn rooms about me is just faking and really not knowing me, when 1 hour is my minimum standard.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2913669]Ah, it was released when I saw her, I asked her if she preferred Munich to Sharks and she said Sharks was better. In the Munich FKK she said the price was 100 euros for half an hour with another 50 euros extra for OWO but she was sat around with no customers for a lot of the day where as in Sharks all girls charge 100 euros for half an hour including OWO but she was much busier.

I only saw her briefly outside the room and the only girl I saw her talking to was Celine who based on my experience charges the Munich rates in Sharks.

Agree she was pretty (one of the prettiest girls I've met in Sharks) and friendly, hopefully she won't adopt Celine's pricing structure.[/QUOTE]She has a great body with long blond hair when I saw her a week ago. Did she cut it?

Anyway, she's a 2 year veteran from Municg and is quite mechanical in a short room. Kept on using her hands indicating she's trying to get you off as quickly as possible. That's a big turn off for me but I got to say she's pretty cool otherwise. Attached herself to Celine's group with the best of them actually being Julia. She's a bit heavy bottomed, way bigger than my spec but I'll admit that she had great tits and gave pretty good service.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2913558]Two weeks ago, I was in Frankfurt for a business trip. After wrapping up work, I headed to Sharks around 6 pm. It was Tuesday, a particularly slow day. As I walked in, I noticed an unfamiliar girl seated on the entrance couch where Lina usually sat. She appeared quite charming. Her name sounds like Rachel. 20 yo. She said she worked at Munich for two years, and just came to Sharks for a few days. I decided to take her, 100/30.

As we were going upstairs, she suddenly asked if I could speak French. I said no and asked why. She just said it wasn't important. I wondered if she thought I was someone else S.

In the room, she wanted me to pay upfront before we started. I said I'd pay her a tip later if everything went well. But she insisted on payment first, which made me think the service might not be great. It turned out to be just okay. Then, all of a sudden, she said we only had five minutes left. I hadn't checked the time when we came in, but I was sure we hadn't been room for more than 15 minutes. She offered to help me finish using her hand. To hear that, I lost interest and ended game. Wasted 100 euros.

In German board, quite a lot customers like her. Maybe she could speak German.[/QUOTE]Surprised that the Germans would like her as her service was a bit mechanical. I basically took her for the lower half of her body, which was perfect. Nice athletic ass and legs. Face was just cute. Tits were on the mosquito bite side but overall a higher tier girl next door looking type that would make a good enough first quick pop room of the day while saving the better service girls for later. She would have been a constant regular at 50 e /100 e prices but at 100/200 e, I doubt I would ever go with her again.

My most recent impression of Sharks from last week is that I think it remains a downhill spiral of generic service. I will say that the optic quality did improve for guys who like slim, Teenie types. Seemed like there was an infusion of fresh 19 and 20 year olds. I wouldn't say service is terrible but Sharks in April 2024 seems to be Sharks 2017 at double the price and same level of service.

It's already changed the hobby for travelers and locals in 2 ways. Volume hobbyists who would do 3, 4, 5 or more half hour rooms per day are no longer doing that. And guys like me who like to search for girls with long room potential by trying several girls for half an hour will find less stars. It takes more for a girl to make me want to spend 100 e in the first place. But since the girls still provide that same basic service for half an hour, it's a catch 22 to find the great providers because it's silly to invest 200 e just to try one for good service. I did decide to commit to an hour with Liz to see if it made a difference and was pretty disappointed. I mean, she was nice but she remained lazy without an upgrade in service quality from her 30 minute room.

I find it funny that the veteran girls complain about how the business is dying. I said to one girl, "you girls caused this. You double the price at a time when people have less money to spend and now you complain. " It's funny that the 100 e price probably attracted more young slim girls but now the vets are shit out of luck because Sharks has become a 30 minute optic fuck club and the girls who pushed for the price change are now older and don't catch guys going for optic fucks. It served them right.

Oh, side note. Heard a rumor that Sharks is being sold at the end of the year to Asian owners. Can anyone else confirm or have details?

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2913558]In the room, she wanted me to pay upfront before we started. I said I'd pay her a tip later if everything went well. But she insisted on payment first, which made me think the service might not be great. It turned out to be just okay. Then, all of a sudden, she said we only had five minutes left. I hadn't checked the time when we came in, but I was sure we hadn't been room for more than 15 minutes. She offered to help me finish using her hand. To hear that, I lost interest and ended game. Wasted 100 euros.[/QUOTE]You wasted 100 Euros when you agreed to pay up front and even promising a tip, because nobody does that.

Almost all rooms in Sharks have a clock above the door, there is also a clock on the wall at the top of the stairs.

I know this advice (in addition to never pay up front!) will probably fall on deaf ears with most of the tourists here [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue], but I always make a little joke-remark to the girl when we enter the room when looking at the clock (for example "oh wow, how time flies, it's 20:35 already? In order to benchmark the time. This way there can be no confusion about the time we started if she tries to scam me.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2913814]Is this the same Roberta from Oase? It seems her age doesn't quite match up. The Roberta at Oase is 19 now and has a tattoo in the chest area. Maybe this new Roberta used different name at Oase.[/QUOTE]Most likely a different girl. I'm neither for or against tattoos so I don't even pay attention but as far as I remember, there was no tattoos at least on her chest.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2913814]Is this the same Roberta from Oase? It seems her age doesn't quite match up. The Roberta at Oase is 19 now and has a tattoo in the chest area. Maybe this new Roberta used different name at Oase.[/QUOTE]It's a different Roberta. The new Roberta at Sharks does not have any tattoos that I can recall. She is slightly slimmer with a model-like body. She's a keeper. Please be nice to her.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2913952]It's a different Roberta. The new Roberta at Sharks does not have any tattoos that I can recall. She is slightly slimmer with a model-like body. She's a keeper. Please be nice to her.[/QUOTE]How tall bare feet?

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2913952]It's a different Roberta. The new Roberta at Sharks does not have any tattoos that I can recall. She is slightly slimmer with a model-like body. She's a keeper. Please be nice to her.[/QUOTE]Is the ex-World Sabrina not called Roberta in Sharks any more?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2913867]I find it funny that the veteran girls complain about how the business is dying. I said to one girl, "You girls caused this. You double the price at a time when people have less money to spend and now you complain.[/QUOTE]And what was her response?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2913970]Is the ex-World Sabrina not called Roberta in Sharks any more?[/QUOTE]She is not new at Sharks, but lovely. I prefer her and Alina with who we joke, than at World.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2913672]Celine who was more fresh look at Oase without now heavy make up, was also for less expensive, when Sharks is now for inflation by girls. So good to be able to get full GFE from girls who really show You they want You go with them, really no need to run when they come as soon they see me and doing all in bed to please You to make You return, for 150/60 , when for real GFE, 1 full hour and sometimes even too short for my whole game, is higher quality, for same rate than 30 mn with Celine. Still exist in Germany, when many other clubs, some where 100/60 and even with Germans.[/QUOTE]100/30 seem now to be most often for only suck even BBBJ and fast fuck for more and more girls at Sharks and Ariana with big nose. More expensive than German escorts. I m so happy not to be fucked like this by average looks for my eyes. Knowing I pay to be fucked for value for quality would make me lose hard and I prefer to get prettier for 100/60 .

[QUOTE=TheCane;2913991]And what was her response?[/QUOTE]Resignation with contempt.

I Recently visit club After finishing business trip at the MB in Mannheim.

Here is the summary what I saw and thought.

About lineup, I believe the current selection caters exceptionally well to those who appreciate young (18-22) slender figures with fair white skin girls. This lineup is particularly appealing to individuals like myself, aged over 60, pure optic seeker, who enjoy the finer things and have some asset to indulge. Among the young and beautiful, we have Isa, Celine, Rachel, Edina, Sydney, Marta, Lola, Rosa, and more.

Indeed, when it comes to quality merchandise, you wouldn't expect it to be cheap. The standard charge is 100/30 or 200/60. Since most girls know me, the price includes OWO. I am not sure if they surcharge other customers.

Service isn't a big concern for me. It's quite rare to find a girl who is stunningly beautiful, offers excellent service, and charges a low price. So, I only prioritize beauty, disregarding other factors if there's no such option.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2913672]Celine who was . .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2914140]100/30 . . . More expensive than German escorts. . . . I prefer to get prettier for 100/60 .[/QUOTE]For those who constantly gripe about girls raising their rates, well, I understand his frustration; it's like having a big appetite with bad teeth. Here's my advice: complain less, visit less, save more, and enjoy life.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2914301]I Recently visit club After finishing business trip at the MB in Mannheim.

Here is the summary what I saw and thought.

About lineup, I believe the current selection caters exceptionally well to those who appreciate young (18-22) slender figures with fair white skin girls. This lineup is particularly appealing to individuals like myself, aged over 60, pure optic seeker, who enjoy the finer things and have some asset to indulge. Among the young and beautiful, we have Isa, Celine, Rachel, Edina, Sydney, Marta, Lola, Rosa, and more.

Indeed, when it comes to quality merchandise, you wouldn't expect it to be cheap. The standard charge is 100/30 or 200/60. Since most girls know me, the price includes OWO. I am not sure if they surcharge other customers.

Service isn't a big concern for me. It's quite rare to find a girl who is stunningly beautiful, offers excellent service, and charges a low price. So, I only prioritize beauty, disregarding other factors if there's no such option.



For those who constantly gripe about girls raising their rates, well, I understand his frustration; it's like having a big appetite with bad teeth. Here's my advice: complain less, visit less, save more, and enjoy life.[/QUOTE]That's one way to look at it. Another reality is the example of a multi-multi millionaire who will prefers to not pay 500 K for a Super Car when the market rate is 300 K.

When attempting to don the "too wealthy to care" persona, one should consider that one thing people actually in that social class care about more than money is the sense of power over others. People who genuinely carry this persona do not simply oblige to the requests of others just because. And especially not when someone is dictating how to utilize your wealth.

Also, 95% of girls will not up charge for BBBJ at the inflated rates.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2914301]I Recently visit club After finishing business trip at the MB in Mannheim.

Here is the summary what I saw and thought.

About lineup, I believe the current selection caters exceptionally well to those who appreciate young (18-22) slender figures with fair white skin girls. This lineup is particularly appealing to individuals like myself, aged over 60, pure optic seeker, who enjoy the finer things and have some asset to indulge. Among the young and beautiful, we have Isa, Celine, Rachel, Edina, Sydney, Marta, Lola, Rosa, and more.

Indeed, when it comes to quality merchandise, you wouldn't expect it to be cheap. The standard charge is 100/30 or 200/60. Since most girls know me, the price includes OWO. I am not sure if they surcharge other customers.

Service isn't a big concern for me. It's quite rare to find a girl who is stunningly beautiful, offers excellent service, and charges a low price. So, I only prioritize beauty, disregarding other factors if there's no such option.



For those who constantly gripe about girls raising their rates, well, I understand his frustration; it's like having a big appetite with bad teeth. Here's my advice: complain less, visit less, save more, and enjoy life.[/QUOTE]Rosa who may be ex short Simona? Did she need to change name to keep business? Or Celine ex Oase, or Stacy, or Baylies, are not pretty enough for me, just to pay for. Everybody is free of course to spend own money as You like, but I m always surprised many pay more expensive for lower quality, for little Romanians compare to German escorts with who You can live a real wow GFE for 200/60 or even less. I won t save to pay bad value for quality and average looks for me at Sharks, when I m not anymore attracted by schoolgirl looks, when I m not anymore 15 yo. When I had many around 400/500 € rooms at Globe or Amesia ex Bumsalp, but with rare girls on far higher level than Megan, but I don t agree to pay more expensive for lower quality than in other places, reason why I don t go anymore to Globe when I know higher level for half rate and same for Sharks which fall now to be worst value for girls quality in Germany. Keep on enjoying to pay 200 or more for few kisses and for only average, when this is not my standard for quality, probably matter of culture. These girls are lucky to still find tourist in mind to fuck upselling, when I see many German regulars in other clubs.

I will stop by Sharks later today. Great weather here so I hope the barbecue station will be open. Sun, beef and meat flaps!

For all the 'experts' here who think it's perfectly normal to pay a girl in Sharks (or any other German club) upfront, may I advice you to conduct the following little social experiment when you're bored in between rooms:

*) grab a seat close to the valuables lockers on the sofas or at the front end of the bar, where you can see couples going up / coming down the stairs.

*) observe and count how many men pay a girl and then go [B]up[/B] the stairs with the girl (paying upfront).

*) observe and count how many couples come [B]down[/B] the stairs and then go to the lockers to receive payment. ( paying afterwards).

After having conducted this social experiment during an entire day at Sharks, I think it will be very difficult to have counted even [U]one[/U] guy who pays upfront.

From a financial point of view, in addition to doing [U]no[/U] price negotiations before taking a girl to a room, agreeing to pay upfront is probably one of the most stupid thing anyone can do in a brothel and is a recipe for disaster. If a dispute arises and someone hasn't paid yet, he could take a girl to the reception, but if someone has already paid I doubt that the reception can do much because the transaction is closed. Only the biggest scammer girls will try to make a guy pay in advance when they sense that a guy is really weak, and it should 100% be a reason for any guy to quickly turn away whenever a girl suggests this.

Please let this be a lesson for the 0,01% of men who can not understand the common sense that 99,99% of men automatically understand when visiting a place like Sharks: [B]paying upfront is simply NEVER EVER done, no matter what the girl says or suggests![/B].

I was extremely surprised to discover someone getting angry like a clown over upfront payment. And he misinterpreted my post.

I read my post again and couldn't find any indication that I had paid Rachel upfront. She requested but been rejected. Honestly I didn't bring money to room either because my robe pockets couldn't fit it. Consequently she cut my time and gave less service. This is whole story. Of course, I wouldn't stoop as low as someone to take girls to the reception. Gentlemen shouldn't argue with girls over just 100 euros, especially not with a sweet girl like Rachel.

I will take Rachel again tomorrow. This time, I'll make sure to check the time when I enter the room and let her know firmly.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2914357]That's one way to look at it. Another reality is the example of a multi-multi millionaire who will prefers to not pay 500 K for a Super Car when the market rate is 300 K.

When attempting to don the "too wealthy to care" persona, one should consider that one thing people actually in that social class care about more than money is the sense of power over others. People who genuinely carry this persona do not simply oblige to the requests of others just because. And especially not when someone is dictating how to utilize your wealth.

Also, 95% of girls will not up charge for BBBJ at the inflated rates.[/QUOTE]And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2914595]And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Well, a bit different as the nature of the market. Doing so in the SE Asian market is expected. Haggling is part of the culture. In Germany, it was designed to be the opposite with set menu pricing. In addition to the aforementioned example is the disturbing act of disrupting local markets.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2914577]I was extremely surprised to discover someone getting angry like a clown over upfront payment. And he misinterpreted my post.

I read my post again and couldn't find any indication that I had paid Rachel upfront. She requested but been rejected. Honestly I didn't bring money to room either because my robe pockets couldn't fit it. Consequently she cut my time and gave less service. This is whole story. Of course, I wouldn't stoop as low as someone to take girls to the reception. Gentlemen shouldn't argue with girls over just 100 euros, especially not with a sweet girl like Rachel.

I will take Rachel again tomorrow. This time, I'll make sure to check the time when I enter the room and let her know firmly.[/QUOTE]My little advice from my little experience is You should usually get better from a girl when paying at the end than at the beginning. Usually, we are paid after job, not before. Other tip, if she is into cutting time, look at your watch in front of her when starting. On this week end, I visited twice GG where 80/30 and 150/60 with BBBJ and FK for me, Penelope where 50/30 and LR where 50/30 for basic and I got a real cutie I don t see such face at Globe or Sharks for 120/60+ with BBBJ and FK all along hour for a kisser like me. 160 at LR with entry would have been around 300 at Sharks and more than 400€ at Globe, with less pretty girls, I would really feel deeply fucked in the ass by little Romanians. I was so happy I'm still able to find beauties for around 100/60, as a foreigner not speaking German, but not a tourist in doggy to be fucked.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2914577]I was extremely surprised to discover someone getting angry like a clown over upfront payment. And he misinterpreted my post.

I read my post again and couldn't find any indication that I had paid Rachel upfront. She requested but been rejected. Honestly I didn't bring money to room either because my robe pockets couldn't fit it. Consequently she cut my time and gave less service. This is whole story. Of course, I wouldn't stoop as low as someone to take girls to the reception. Gentlemen shouldn't argue with girls over just 100 euros, especially not with a sweet girl like Rachel.

I will take Rachel again tomorrow. This time, I'll make sure to check the time when I enter the room and let her know firmly.[/QUOTE]Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2914595]And another example is the multi-millionaire who was willing to pay anything for that rare item that he wants. So after a year of Thailand and Cambodia, I honestly don't care what some skinny blonde hard body 18 year old European teeny wants for my 15 minutes of grunting as long as she looks the way I want, which is not Asian. And then when I couple the foregoing with the fact that my only chance for such Glory is once a year on my way back to the states where I'll spend two months choking my chicken, I won't argue over $50.

And for you guys slapping each other over covered blowjobs, all I can tell you is try to get any blowjob in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]My only french friend in FKK is in Pattaya. When he knows my performances in FKK with prettiest and saw German snow white with me at Sharks 1 year ago, when he is around 2,00 and could play NBA, he wants to convince me, but I m not into Asian girls, maybe I could try ladyboys. Not his first tour and Caucasians and Asians don t play same game, same like in FKK. For him, easy to get nights from Soi6 , masseuses and even gogos, for 100 € , getting all he wants: BBBJ with CIM, FK, he could even easily have it AO, but doesn t want to take different risks. For his nights, You can have only fast suck and fuck with average little Romanians at Sharks. If I liked Thaï type, I would run there, rather than being fucked deep in ass by little Romanians.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2914820]Well, a bit different as the nature of the market. Doing so in the SE Asian market is expected. Haggling is part of the culture. In Germany, it was designed to be the opposite with set menu pricing. In addition to the aforementioned example is the disturbing act of disrupting local markets.[/QUOTE]Negotiating? I don't negotiate unless its stupid price quoting, then usually I just walk away.

I don't argue over $10.

My point was that when I roll off that plane from Bangkok and enter Sharks, I am laser focused on what I want, and I don't care what she wants along as its in the reasonable area. Its all about Me. Mememe.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2914907]Negotiating? I don't negotiate unless its stupid price quoting, then usually I just walk away.

I don't argue over $10.

My point was that when I roll off that plane from Bangkok and enter Sharks, I am laser focused on what I want, and I don't care what she wants along as its in the reasonable area. Its all about Me. Mememe.[/QUOTE]Fairly sure that is part of the criticism some locals have of American visitors. The exportation of the me me me attitude with subsequent disturbance of institutions that were there long before the individual.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2914852]Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?[/QUOTE]She uses to sit close to entry. Coming from business in Munchen Bavaria.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2914852]Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?[/QUOTE]No. The girl you refer might be Sibel, 22 yo, half German half Turkish.

Rachel sat on couch at entrance used to be sat by Lina.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2914852]Is rachel that girl with saggy be-tits?

And sits at the sofa right to the poledance?[/QUOTE]No. She has perfectly shaped non-saggy tits. Normally sits at the game machine at the entrance or the sofa next to it.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2914944]Fairly sure that is part of the criticism some locals have of American visitors. The exportation of the me me me attitude with subsequent disturbance of institutions that were there long before the individual.[/QUOTE]Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915039]Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.[/QUOTE]Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915039]Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.[/QUOTE]Doesn't seem like something anyone actually thinks. Sounds more like someone trying too hard to put up a facade.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915039]Well I guess it sucks to be the locals then. They can thank us that we let them have a country after all the trouble they cause. Plus, since my tax dollars allow such freeloaders to spend their money on decorating working girl houses as opposed to building tanks to keep Ivan off of them, my concern about ever upsetting Germans is non existent.

Blonde hard-bodied White teenies. Western girls. Yum yum. Time to Splash the cash.[/QUOTE]When You seem to be afraid of your shadow, Germans who are at home should welcome a foreigner behaving like your words.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2915255]When You seem to be afraid of your shadow, Germans who are at home should welcome a foreigner behaving like your words.[/QUOTE]I'm not afraid of anything other than being confronted with a situation where a dwarfish, clearly disturbed and deranged individual tires to establish eye contact with me when stroking himself off in a shower and I get arrested after stuffing a shower shoe in his mouth.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915118]Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.[/QUOTE]Asia is better for fun than Latin America.

Not the proper section for me to go further than that.

Is it easy to get weed in Darmstadt now?

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915118]Muricans truly believe they are the saviors of universe. If you think USA is adding anything positive to the continent of Europe you are totally delusional. Europe is older than anything USA. Would be better if you traveled to your "backyard" Latin America where they really need your dollars.[/QUOTE]Right now the US rules the world and Europe has accepted that and has fallen into line although to their economic detriment. Europe has accepted that the US is the master of the universe.

As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2915406]Right now the US rules the world and Europe has accepted that and has fallen into line although to their economic detriment. Europe has accepted that the US is the master of the universe.[/QUOTE]I think you're living in the 20th century still. Countries around the world are fed up with USA. Moreover, USA looks more like a house of cards than anything. Many Muricans can't wait to leave. If you don't want to admit it then that's your problem. You are after all traveling abroad to have the fun you can't find at home.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915383]Asia is better for fun than Latin America.

Not the proper section for me to go further than that.

Is it easy to get weed in Darmstadt now?[/QUOTE]Go to Asia where I m pretty sure You will pay more expensive to get lower than normal not too ugly nor fat Caucasian. I doubt Germans will like a guy with your words. When I m French, but I know nazis were not all Germans and I never talk about this with Germans because I don t want to make them feeling uncomfortable about past when they were not born.

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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2915453]As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Thats me. Superficial Charms.

I hope I can find a mean one so I can pretend I married her.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2915482]Go to Asia where I m pretty sure You will pay more expensive to get lower than normal not too ugly nor fat Caucasian. I doubt Germans will like a guy with your words. When I m French, but I know nazis were not all Germans and I never talk about this with Germans because I don t want to make them feeling uncomfortable about past when they were not born.[/QUOTE]I live in Asia you dwarfish freak. I keep my thoughts to myself until asked, or until I need to respond. Unlike you.

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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2915453]As Easter break ends, more girls are coming back, and some new young are joining too. It's a great time for those "Connoisseur of superficial charms".

Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.[/QUOTE]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150€/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.

Good to know, thank you. Going there on Friday and looking forward to it!

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915607]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2915453]Of course, Make sure your wallet is bulging enough. Almost all girls quote at least 100/30;or 200/60.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915607]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month. 80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to). And the rest 200/60.[/QUOTE]Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2915740]Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.[/QUOTE]I ask for gf6 with DFK and bbj.

Others I don't ask.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915607]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.[/QUOTE]Like you, I've also made 3 visits this past month. 80% is not my experience outside of some regulars or veteran girls who maintain 100/150 per hour rates for me. And that is usually for a 2+ hour room. For newer girls, I don't speak about pricing until I seriously think I would almost definitely go with her. So that is limited to only 3 or 4 girls per day where we actually get to price discussions. Over my 3 visit stretch, pricing came up with about a total of 10 girls. With that small sample size in April / May, I did not have a single unknown girl agree to 150 for 60 minutes; albeit, I don't negotiate hard. Meaning If I ask for a one hour rate, I've probably already decided I would take her to a room. It's just a matter of 30 minutes or 1 hour. My intention is that I would do 1 hour if she was agreeable to 150. I only ask once and if she says 200, then I usually just immediately fall back to the 30 minute option expecting an optic fuck.

But the point is that 80% seems quite off to me if we are talking about initial quotes and quotes following a single counteroffer. This is the experience of 10 year Sharks visitor, someone with a familiar face to many girls rather than a tourist who you might expect to be quoted higher prices. I also let many of the girls think that I am still a local rather having already moved from Germany.

To the other end of the spectrum where posters claim even higher quotes, I've only had one girl quote more than 200 for an hour and that was little Simona who would still do 200 e hours but asks for more if wanting "good service. ".

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some pre-inflation girls agree to 150 e hours. That being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915607]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.[/QUOTE]80% is not my experience outside of some regulars or veteran girls who maintain 100/150 per hour rates for me. And that is usually for a 2+ hour room. For newer girls, I don't speak about pricing until I seriously think I would almost definitely go with a her. So that is limited to only 3 or 4 girls per day where we actually get to price discussions. Like you, I've also made 3 visits this past month. Over that stretch, pricing came up with about a total of 10 girls. With that small sample size in April / May, I did not have a single unknown girl agree to 150 for 60 minutes; albeit, I don't negotiate hard. Meaning If I ask for a one hour rate, I've probably already decided I would take her to a room. It's just a matter of 30 minutes or 1 hour. My intention is that I would do 1 hour if she was agreeable to 150. I only ask once and if she says 200, then I usually just immediately fall back to the 30 minute option expecting an optic fuck.

But the point is that 80% seems quite off to me if we are talking about initial quotes and quotes following with a counter offer. This is the experience of 10 year Sharks visitor, someone with a familiar face to many girls rather than a tourist who you might expect to be quoted higher prices. I also let many of the girls think that I am still a local rather having already moved from Germany.

To the other end of the spectrum where posters claim even higher quotes, I've only had one girl quote more than 200 for an hour and that was little Simona who would still do 200 e hours but asks for more if wanting "good service. ".

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some precovid girls agree to 150 e hours. Thank being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2915740]Bonsai, can you clarify what kind of performance that were discussed? Are we talking plain basic service (CBJ / CFS) or the "good ol'" GFE standard (with good BJ, DATY and kissing or fkissing included)?

If I understand HappyT correctly he is referring to sessions with good BJ and CFS, but no DATY or kissing.[/QUOTE]How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.

[QUOTE=FantasyLane;2915715]Good to know, thank you. Going there on Friday and looking forward to it![/QUOTE]As a regular local visitor, I can recommend everyone:

Don't ask for the price.

You better say it yourself: „like 100€ for 30 min and 150€ for 60 min? If its ok for you then we can find a room now".

Or so.

When you enter the hall, the girls on the right side of the bar are not recommended.

The group with melanie / emma / simona usw.

Those girls all asking 200/60 min or even more but less service.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915456]I think you're living in the 20th century still. Countries around the world are fed up with USA. Moreover, USA looks more like a house of cards than anything. Many Muricans can't wait to leave. If you don't want to admit it then that's your problem. You are after all traveling abroad to have the fun you can't find at home.[/QUOTE]You can find almost all the funs in USA except FKK clubs.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915607]Was 3 x in sharks the last 1 month.

80% of the girl asking 100/30 and 150/60 (that I talked to).

And the rest 200/60.[/QUOTE]Based on my recent experience, about 80% of the girls ask for 100/30 and 150-180/60. The rest of the girls ask for 200/60. There are less than 20% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2915837]Based on my recent experience, about 80% of the girls ask for 100/30 and 150-180/60. The rest of the girls ask for 200/60. There are less than 20% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.[/QUOTE]Well, what are you getting for that? If it's an hour with BBBJ / CIM, then under the current pricing structure I would go with that. Plus throw in another hundred for some butt hole.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915780]How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.[/QUOTE]I usually never ask for DATY, but if the girl likes, then its included!

I can recommend everyone never pay extra for DATY.

The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2915776]80% i

Side note, I have a friend who times his visits according to his favorite girls' schedules, explaining that he gets legacy pricing from them and does not want them seeing him going with newer girls because he doesn't want the regulars thinking he is paying a new girl the higher prices. My approach is the opposite in that I want the new girls seeing me taking girls who give me legacy pricing in hopes that they would lower their prices to catch my business. With that strategy, I have not gotten a lower price from any new girls but have had some precovid girls agree to 150 e hours. Thank being said, new girls who have seen or heard that I took a girl for multi hour rooms have started to gravitate closer to me when I'm in the main lounge, making more attempts at small talk and just being overall more friendly and joking.[/QUOTE]I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say „no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915780]How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.[/QUOTE]Zero. I am yet to find a girl at Sharks who is not providing DATY or is asking extra for it. I therefore consider DATY a standard service without any extra cost in a 100E/30 session.

If I may ramble on:

I can wholeheartedly say that I have never heard a girl in Hessen asking extra for DATY in the last 20 years. Not saying it can't happen, in particular DATY can be refused as a service if you are the type of guy who bargains for a cheap and quick 50E/30 session. The bestlooking girls would never agree to a 50E session anyway (in 2024).

Outside Sharks I have found 1 at Oase and several at the Austrian FKK clubs (post corona). The one at Oase, for unknown reasons, simply refused to provide DATY at any cost (maybe she did me a favour). At the Austrian FKK clubs, in particular GT Vienna and Mystic, some girls, not all, will IME be trying to ask extra for DATY (30- 70 E). IME GT Vienna and Mystic are the worst upselling clubs out there.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2915833]You can find almost all the funs in USA except FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]Same in France, much better quality of life than Germany, escorts but no brothel.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915909]I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.[/QUOTE]Agreed, as I mentioned, when they don't come down on the 200/ HR, I opt for just 100/ half. My point was that unlike the other 2 reports of 80% taking 150 per hour, I have not come across a girl who was not a regular or a precovid girl who took that deal. Maybe it's just me or my selection, but the 150/ HR price is not my experience and is also not something commonly heard of on the German forums either.

These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915909]I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.[/QUOTE]100/30 is a fine price for a blonde teeny optifuk. A little bit more expensive than in Bangkok and you don't get a blonde white girl. I have been eating Asian for a year, I'm looking forward to the meals that await me.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]Do You pay 150/60 with fire Sofi. De, Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase? When I agree they don t worth 200 . Some ask more than 200/60 for few kissing. My advice is don t pay extra for kissing, because it means the girl is not a natural kisser and You will get only very average for your 50 . Kisser girls don t ask extra and highest level girls don t speak about money like grocer. Killing desire for me, when I need to be impressed by image to feel desire and being motivated to pay. I m happy because I still find woman images for 150/60 and even 120 , when so many better values than now most at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915828]As a regular local visitor, I can recommend everyone:

Don't ask for the price.

You better say it yourself: like 100 for 30 min and 150 for 60 min? If its ok for you then we can find a room now".

Or so.

When you enter the hall, the girls on the right side of the bar are not recommended.

The group with melanie / emma / simona usw.

Those girls all asking 200/60 min or even more but less service.[/QUOTE]Simona is Rose? Very short but expensive. But not only them asking at least 200 , gypsy Claudia? Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase, Sofi. De? When You are into real GFE, not only 3 baby kiss, then You don t go for only 30 short mn and having to cut time to fuck like a rabbit is like paying for a failure, when 30 mn can t be same quality than minimum 1 hour which is sometimes too short for my love in bed, favorite game, like Sheryl Crow sings.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]When You are not only a tourist, even being a foreigner not speaking German, You still find 50/30 with prettier than most at Sharks, at Atlanta, Penelope, LR. Same in Switzerland, there are better values than Globe which fell for looks.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]Some of it comes down to why you go in the first place, if the only thing you are interested in is sex that could be true. Personally I still really likes Sharks, good atmosphere, sport on TV and as for the girls there is plenty of choice and I get good service from quite a few of them. I've probably been a couple of hundred times and still on a Friday or Saturday night the sight of 100+ naked girls walking around impresses me every time. It's nothing I can get in my country.

I tried Acapulco Gold which was much cheaper but just found it boring. I'd rather have less sex and pay the higher prices at Sharks than go there again. I quickly tired of using private ads, too many time wasters and girls that looks nothing like their profile photos, good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]To clarify, are some of yall claiming that you are getting 150 for a single hour with girls that started after covid / inflation?

Are we talking about regulars or new girls? Are you getting to the 150 rate only after hard negotiations? Or perhaps only with longs rooms?

The locals I know are also not telling me that they are getting 150 e for a single hour with a newer girl anymore. German forum members are also not reporting 150 for a single hour with a newer girl. I only get the 150 e rate with girls who have been there for a while, before covid, and with one newer girl who I've previously taken for two 30 minute rooms and built a good repoire. Since December 2023, I have not had any new girl agree to 150 e for one single hour unless I've been with them before. And it's not like I'm a new face or have been perceived as a tourist. I've been going for a decade and many girls know me to have potential for long rooms but not for paying high hourly rates. Some still think I am local.

Not trying to be controversial but would like to clarify if we're comparing apples to apples. I'm completely against the guys who say things like "I'll pay whatever I don't care to argue over small money. " At the same time, mongers tend to not want to be seen as weak or a "newb" so they tend to understate what they actually pay so they presumably save face.

Would like to know if it's just my face that makes girls want to charge 200 e and if the average monger actually gets quoted 150 e for a single hour by "80% of girls. " Trying to set accurate expectations for the average club visitor, and myself to boot.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916206]good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. And thats why I still go to German FKKs.

In FKK clubs, you only have to go to one place and you get all the ass you can handle. Yes it sucks that most are Romanian. Yes it sucks that prices are stupid. Yes it sucks that the music is awful because the staff has a horrible taste in music. Yes the endless harassment by ugly WGs who can’t even get 1 customer and don’t take no for an answer sucks.

But, the pros still outweigh the cons. In my book.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]Don't let the Sharks and the Hessen / Bavarian prices mislead you into thinking that this is normal for most of the country. For some areas, 100/ hour is the average rate. I'm thinking the average for all of the country is around 150 per hour. One monger mentioned Aca Gold being boring but that is one of the more run down venues. There are dozens of clubs scattered about in the same area that are more social. Now, Hessens clubs do have the perk of being the most international-English friendly so the vibe is different. You can tell by the number of girls who don't even speak German but fluent English. Go to NRW but not too close to the Dutch border where there is more German spoken in the clubs and you can find chill yet social vibes without Hessen / Bavarian pricing. Would help to speak or at least understand some German if vibes are what you're seeking.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2916225]Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.[/QUOTE]This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2916231]This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.[/QUOTE]Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2916233]Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.[/QUOTE]I'll assume you are right, thanks.

I am very surprised that Blenda suddenly seems to have become the "queen" level WG of the club, as some mongers emphasize.

For almost a decade, I've seen her every time I visit the club. We only went to a room together once during the early years of her career, and I paid her 50/30. She has never been on my favorite list. If you define her as the MILF queen, I might agree.

I have no problem paying 200/60 for Stacy, Ariana, Marta, or other teen-type beauties, but for Blenda, I'd only consider 100/60 worth a try.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2916217]To clarify, are some of yall claiming that you are getting 150 for a single hour with girls that started after covid / inflation?

Are we talking about regulars or new girls? Are you getting to the 150 rate only after hard negotiations? Or perhaps only with longs rooms?[/QUOTE]2023: I was vocal about 150 E /60 being possible with new girls at Sharks. It wasn't easy, but possible. Thus I suggested that gents should simply work harder for it.

2024: I am undecided, as my only 1 visit at Sharks in 2024 is not enough to be vocal about anything yet IMO. But admittedly, for the first time I had problems finding a new girl up to my standards (looks / performance) that were willing to do it for 150 E /60. Same tendancy at Oase. Much easier at World. A coincidence?

I am not a hard negotiater. But I WILL politely say no to girls if looks/performance/price are not up to par. There is just a small sample of new girls that interest me. Initially I will say no to them all and probably try out the most promising one at the end of a visit. If her quote is 200E/60, I'd rather go for 100E/30.

My regulars and other veteran girls are different. My regulars have a few years in the business, but they look after their apperance, still look amazing, and provide excellent sessions for 150 E /60 and even 100 E /60 (in longer sessions or with a legitimate extra). So, my focus are on them. Still, a visit is not completely successful unless you have also tried out that new pyt, right?

I will give it another shot later this summer before I make any strong conclusions. Meanwhile, I would happy to hear about other gents experiences. Comparing notes on what is happening on the ground in 2024 is what this forum should be all about.

Thanks for bringing this up, EA.

- S16.

Sidenote:

- I refuse to believe that the majority of girls discriminate against old, fat, black, Asian or what have you (Brenda is the exception, not the rule). The young and fit gents are NOT given any advantages in this business, trust me. The girls want our money. And as much as they can. They may try to manipulate you to pay a premium price and use "old, fat, black, Asian or what have you" as an excuse, but at the end of the day it is just manipulation. Just be clean and nice and act with a little bit of self confidence, and you will be fine paying going rates.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2916300]I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.[/QUOTE]Agreed, yesterday's linup in the Sharks was the worst I've seen in my 50+ visits. 2-3 girls I could initially spend money on, but ended up with only one that I had two rounds with when I encountered upsell mentality from the two others.

Some of the porn star-looking girls spin all over the club and make a kind of bidding round and set priorities according to which customer is the easiest.

I refuse on principle to answer questions like how many times have you been in the room today? And so on.

Had a trip to Oase today and there is no better lineup there, although I like the atmosphere better. The girls have had several bad earnings days and were affected by this. No one managed to smile.

Customers often come just to talk and eat. Met a pretty hot lady I've roomed with before. But she started with uppsell in the room and I said that I don't want to be part of this and got up. Then she adjusted the price down. But it was still hard to forget her turnoff tactics. It went well, but not again with this lady.

I also ran into two former favourites, who have fallen out of interest for me, both were kicked out by the Sharks. Maybe the administration listens a little to the customers after all? But the Sharks administration must see how the club is decaying ethically and aesthetically, there are inevitable downturns everywhere, unfortunately.

Providing service is increasingly difficult to find and I understand why other customers are finding alternatives to FKK.

Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2916300]I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.[/QUOTE]I live in Asia, and need a month or two in the US every year for business. This year, like last year, I'm going through Frankfurt. It allows me to break up a trip, its 11 hours direct BKK to Frankfurt, I can land, relax and take off the next day, direct to my destination, 8 hours, done. As opposed to getting on a plane in Bangkok and going straight for 30 hours through Tokyo, Taipei, Seoul or (gasp, avoid) Manila, then LAX, 30 hours of Burger Kings.

But I digress.

I haven't banged a white girl since August 2023. My life has been a series of slinky skinny submissive roboboobed tatooed Thai girls (I don't bang Khmer girls) that I usually grab after wandering around the steets and clubs of Bangkok, hunting. So its bar to bar, street hustler to street hustler, the stench of sewage, grilled meat, weed and durian filling my nostrils as I dodge ladyboys, burkhas, clueless Chinese and smelly Africans until I find my cumdump.

And then I smash her as best I can (I'm old) ensuring that the pleasure is all mine, then pay her off and get some food and sleep because to find my gem, I walked 4 miles in the heat.

So now I have the FKK again. Imagine, gentle readers, this old arrogant, yet superficially charming old Yank now has an ENTIRE CLUB to play with. Walk up the stairs and have a jacuzzi. A sauna, nude white girls on 6 inch heels. Snacks. Barbeque. FOOD. FREE. WTF, are you kidding me? I'm already in pussy paradise (with the added advantage of being in Asia), now I get to go, by accident of air travel, to the pussy mecca of an FKK with all the comforts I need.

I hope the fixed the sharp edges on the Jacuzzi drain upstairs. Not the first one you come to, but the second.

Now the important part: The pussy. When I say I don't care what they charge, I mean it, but give me some credit kids, I've been at the mongering game since 1970 and I know the drill, so even if she is my dream girl, she can go pound sand if she hits me with something stupid. And 99% of the time, I'm a short time guy. Especially when I want to cram as many into my memory as possible as I return to the land of junky GPS. M.

So am I too understand that a short time is 100/30, yes? They upcharge for anal how much? With everbodys tastes varying, how many of the hoes would be classified as "Teeny sluts". Whats the roboboob percentage. How about caricature style puffy lip bimbos? Any ethnicity other than Romanians? Say Tues and Wednesday.

Can you smoke a vape outside? Is there any other place to nap other than the tents outside? Would folks look at me as a dork if I had a paperback to amuse myself when I'm too tired to be amused.

My psyche demands CIM. How much extra, if available? Otherwise, Ill just concentrate on throat girls in Bangkok before I leave.

[QUOTE=James006;2916318]
Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?[/QUOTE]Maybe it's not a career path so many young girls are taking these days. Doubt Switzerland will be any better.

[QUOTE=James006;2916318]Agreed, yesterday's linup in the Sharks was the worst I've seen in my 50+ visits. 2-3 girls I could initially spend money on, but ended up with only one that I had two rounds with when I encountered upsell mentality from the two others.

Some of the porn star-looking girls spin all over the club and make a kind of bidding round and set priorities according to which customer is the easiest.

I refuse on principle to answer questions like how many times have you been in the room today? And so on.

Had a trip to Oase today and there is no better lineup there, although I like the atmosphere better. The girls have had several bad earnings days and were affected by this. No one managed to smile.

Customers often come just to talk and eat. Met a pretty hot lady I've roomed with before. But she started with uppsell in the room and I said that I don't want to be part of this and got up. Then she adjusted the price down. But it was still hard to forget her turnoff tactics. It went well, but not again with this lady.

I also ran into two former favourites, who have fallen out of interest for me, both were kicked out by the Sharks. Maybe the administration listens a little to the customers after all? But the Sharks administration must see how the club is decaying ethically and aesthetically, there are inevitable downturns everywhere, unfortunately.

Providing service is increasingly difficult to find and I understand why other customers are finding alternatives to FKK.

Where are the young hot girls? Old fat ladies with big asses are not for me. I might have to go to Switzerland soon?[/QUOTE]For freshness, Romanians just fallen from Mercedes pimp, try Samya Koln, Penelope and Gold, but wait 31 May. Forget Switzerland for freshness, now girls are coming from Germany. Yesterday at my best quality, GG, I was very surprised to see a very fresh Romanian with 0 tattoo and big naturals, but I m a too faithful bad guy, repeating with my Russian very woman for extreme GFE making starting earlier her period after her deep orgasmus, for a bloody sex when she was so electric, when I changed inside her body. So interesting game.

Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2916269]I am very surprised that Blenda suddenly seems to have become the "queen" level WG of the club, as some mongers emphasize.

For almost a decade, I've seen her every time I visit the club. We only went to a room together once during the early years of her career, and I paid her 50/30. She has never been on my favorite list. If you define her as the MILF queen, I might agree.

I have no problem paying 200/60 for Stacy, Ariana, Marta, or other teen-type beauties, but for Blenda, I'd only consider 100/60 worth a try.[/QUOTE]Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2916405]Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.[/QUOTE]My information is happened today Sunday at 11 am, but not important fire and reopening 1 hour later. Did you visit on Saturday night?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2916457]Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.[/QUOTE]Where and how does this election of Miss 202 x take place?

Thank you Seshomeru1 and Turgid for sharing your thoughts. I totally agree, the situation in Germany is getting less attractive, and the same moment things maybe getting better in your location. And it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose.

But it is so easy to say 'Huh, I do not want to travel, I am good at home' in the middle of warm and blessed May. It is more difficult to say the same in rainy October or gray January. Yes, it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose, but still makes total sense to travel in general. And if to travel why not to go to the land of good beer, sausages and FKK?

By the way, I have just checked the airfare prices from my location to FRA and Bangkok, and travel to Thailand just a little more expensive now (even a trip is twice longer). And this is a really dramatic choice: folks, if you have the equal opportunity to go to Germany and Thailand, where would you go and why?

And thank you everyone for your reports here.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2916233]Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see.......[/QUOTE]This is curious. Is there any guy on here who has looked at Brenda and she did not give him that 'cum-hither' look?

[QUOTE=Shark16;2916286]2023: I was vocal about 150 E /60 being possible with new girls at Sharks. It wasn't easy, but possible. Thus I suggested that gents should simply work harder for it.

2024: I am undecided, as my only 1 visit at Sharks in 2024 is not enough to be vocal about anything yet IMO. But admittedly, for the first time I had problems finding a new girl up to my standards (looks / performance) that were willing to do it for 150 E /60. Same tendancy at Oase. Much easier at World. A coincidence?

I am not a hard negotiater. But I WILL politely say no to girls if looks/performance/price are not up to par. There is just a small sample of new girls that interest me. Initially I will say no to them all and probably try out the most promising one at the end of a visit. If her quote is 200E/60, I'd rather go for 100E/30.

My regulars and other veteran girls are different. My regulars have a few years in the business, but they look after their apperance, still look amazing, and provide excellent sessions for 150 E /60 and even 100 E /60 (in longer sessions or with a legitimate extra). So, my focus are on them. Still, a visit is not completely successful unless you have also tried out that new pyt, right?

I will give it another shot later this summer before I make any strong conclusions. Meanwhile, I would happy to hear about other gents experiences. Comparing notes on what is happening on the ground in 2024 is what this forum should be all about.

Thanks for bringing this up, EA.

- S16.

Sidenote:

- I refuse to believe that the majority of girls discriminate against old, fat, black, Asian or what have you (Brenda is the exception, not the rule). The young and fit gents are NOT given any advantages in this business, trust me. The girls want our money. And as much as they can. They may try to manipulate you to pay a premium price and use "old, fat, black, Asian or what have you" as an excuse, but at the end of the day it is just manipulation. Just be clean and nice and act with a little bit of self confidence, and you will be fine paying going rates.[/QUOTE]Most girls consider Asians as easy for sex and are not selective at all about look, only maybe about HA look.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2916405]Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.[/QUOTE]German and French forums are 'sponsored' by the sharks. Corruption is everywhere, anything you read is only because they want you to read it. The rest is deleted.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2916405]Yesterday night there was fire at sharks.

Fire engines were there.

And all people had to go out.

Its just funny how the german boards delete all post about this.

It means the germans also censore free infomativ posts.[/QUOTE]This fire took place yesterday morning at about 10:15 AM after I paid 50 EUR entry fee. This awful fire completely burned down the sauna room inside. German board will NOT report this fire incident because it will affect Sharks business in a big way. Customers can still use the dry sauna room in the garden though.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2916459]My information is happened today Sunday at 11 am, but not important fire and reopening 1 hour later. Did you visit on Saturday night?[/QUOTE]I was in Sharks two days in a row. (Saturday and Sunday). The girls' lineup was much better on Saturday. The awful fire incident took place on Sunday morning about 10:15 AM. Three fire trucks with more than 15 firefighters fought the fire for about one hour. The fire completely destroyed the sauna room inside.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2915843]Well, what are you getting for that? If it's an hour with BBBJ / CIM, then under the current pricing structure I would go with that. Plus throw in another hundred for some butt hole.[/QUOTE]Based on my most recent two days' experiences (Saturday May 18th and Sunday May 19th) only less than 10% of the girls allow CIM with 50 EUR extra.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2916300]I used to travel to Germany regularly before covid but have not since. The girls I bang here are not as hot as FKK girls and are actually a little more expensive but it makes no sense for me to take the time and effort to travel to Germany, pay for hotel and meals and further effort to travel to FKKs, its not worth it now. It is not feasible, financially and otherwise.[/QUOTE]During my most recent two days' visits to Sharks, I did NOT see the 74 years old Silvener. The door manager told me that she took a month long vacation after Easter. Without this 74 years old witch to bug them, a lot of punters were in the hot tubs to have a good time especially in the afternoon and in the evening.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2916457]Brenda ex Lea / Leya, at Sharks since 2016, was elected Miss 2023, after she was defeated by Roxi on 2022. I saw her many times waiting for business, I was never attracted by her face, even amazing naturals. Not well mannered enough for me.[/QUOTE]Brenda's services were way blow average. She does not allow digit in her pussy let alone anal digit. Nadia of FKK Oase beats Brenda hands down in both face and services.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2916356]So now I have the FKK again. Imagine, gentle readers, this old arrogant, yet superficially charming old Yank now has an ENTIRE CLUB to play with. Walk up the stairs and have a jacuzzi. A sauna, nude white girls on 6 inch heels. Snacks. Barbeque. FOOD. FREE. WTF, are you kidding me? I'm already in pussy paradise (with the added advantage of being in Asia), now I get to go, by accident of air travel, to the pussy mecca of an FKK with all the comforts I need.[/QUOTE]How do you figure? You have to pay an admission fee to enter the clubs. And those fees have gone up over the years, to the point that some guys don't think it's worth it anymore (I'm not one of those). I do think it's dead wrong though when somebody tries to add the price of admission to the cost of a session. That's dead wrong because the price of admission carries its own value, as you already well know (jacuzzi, sauna, food, naked white chicks). And so on. It's cool, but it isn't all for free as you suggest. You have to pay to "enter" in more ways than one LOL!

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2916611]During my most recent two days' visits to Sharks, I did NOT see the 74 years old Silvener. The door manager told me that she took a month long vacation after Easter. Without this 74 years old witch to bug them, a lot of punters were in the hot tubs to have a good time especially in the afternoon and in the evening.[/QUOTE]I was told her vacation normally involves working at a club in Stuttgart. Despite her claims of giving the best blow job ever, I've never been remotely tempted. It would be impossible for her to give me a blowjob anyway since I'd never be erect with her.

She leaves me alone now after I turned her down repeatedly but still I prefer the club when she isn't there.

[QUOTE=DenV;2916512]Thank you Seshomeru1 and Turgid for sharing your thoughts. I totally agree, the situation in Germany is getting less attractive, and the same moment things maybe getting better in your location. And it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose.

But it is so easy to say 'Huh, I do not want to travel, I am good at home' in the middle of warm and blessed May. It is more difficult to say the same in rainy October or gray January. Yes, it makes less and less sense to travel for only one purpose, but still makes total sense to travel in general. And if to travel why not to go to the land of good beer, sausages and FKK?

By the way, I have just checked the airfare prices from my location to FRA and Bangkok, and travel to Thailand just a little more expensive now (even a trip is twice longer).[/QUOTE]Fly to Thailand from Frankfurt, 11 hours.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916646]I was told her vacation normally involves working at a club in Stuttgart. Despite her claims of giving the best blow job ever, .....[/QUOTE]Indeed, she is reputed to give the best BBBJ one could ever get. My advice is to lay back and think that (insert name here) is doing it while she is sucking you off. You will be surprised how intense will be the CIM.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2916620]Brenda's services were way blow average. She does not allow digit in her pussy let alone anal digit. Nadia of FKK Oase beats Brenda hands down in both face and services.[/QUOTE]Sure, not Ukrainian Nadia Oase is far prettier than Brenda, showing the fall for looks at Sharks when Miss Sharks 2023 , but if Brenda is below Nadia in bed, then really low level for sex. I always thought most guys go only for her unique naturals.

[QUOTE=MikAlbert;2916485]Where and how does this election of Miss 202 x take place?[/QUOTE]On youppie forum, when many French visit often Sharks, but I m a very different French and I would not vote for Brenda.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2916579]German and French forums are 'sponsored' by the sharks. Corruption is everywhere, anything you read is only because they want you to read it. The rest is deleted.[/QUOTE]But nobody could never make me stopping, when a real free mind, not even my employers.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2916662]Indeed, she is reputed to give the best BBBJ one could ever get. My advice is to lay back and think that (insert name here) is doing it while she is sucking you off. You will be surprised how intense will be the CIM.[/QUOTE]In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.

When I was in Sharks last year an old fat ugly approached me and I blew her off. What does this Sylvanna creature look like? I'm surprised The Insane Dwarf hasnt chimed in about her life, her talents, etc in indecipherable English.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916729]In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.[/QUOTE]On Sunday afternoon, the sun came up. All the chairs around the swimming pool were taken by naked men. Sylvanna's specialty was giving naked sunbathers BBBJ in public. Sylvanna missed a lot of income last Sunday because she could not make same amount of money in other clubs.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916729]In order of preference I have.

(1) Good BJ from a hot girl.

(2) Average BJ from a hot girl.

(3) Good BJ from an average looking girl.

(4) Average BJ from an average looking girl.

(5) No BJ.

(6) BJ from Sylvanna.[/QUOTE]I cannot trust your order of preference because although you no doubt experienced (1) to (5) you have not experienced (6).

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2916760]When I was in Sharks last year an old fat ugly approached me and I blew her off. What does this Sylvanna creature look like? I'm surprised The Insane Dwarf hasnt chimed in about her life, her talents, etc in indecipherable English.[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like her as she isn't fat but she is old, she's in her 70's apart from that I'm struggling to describe her. She's Italian and her line to potential new customers is she gives the best blow job in the world. I'm not aware of any other women in their 70's working in Sharks so you should know her if she her.

Some of my regular girls want me to go with her so I can report back if indeed it is the best in the world.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916902]Doesn't sound like her as she isn't fat but she is old, she's in her 70's apart from that I'm struggling to describe her. She's Italian and her line to potential new customers is she gives the best blow job in the world. I'm not aware of any other women in their 70's working in Sharks so you should know her if she her.

Some of my regular girls want me to go with her so I can report back if indeed it is the best in the world.[/QUOTE]I heard it said that once you get a BBBJ CIM from Sylvana you will keep going back so these girls better be aware of what they're asking for.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2916600]I was in Sharks two days in a row. (Saturday and Sunday). The girls' lineup was much better on Saturday. The awful fire incident took place on Sunday morning about 10:15 AM. Three fire trucks with more than 15 firefighters fought the fire for about one hour. The fire completely destroyed the sauna room inside.[/QUOTE]Same information from inside for me. When I criticize kind of chicken robbers casting with bad value for money, but no problem and no safety problem about the club, my tip being to target short old woman with short hair who is much faster than others at the bar. Club is not helped by most girls, for business.

Sharks line up on this past Wednesday was one of the worst I've seen for a 50 e entry Wednesday since Corona. Before Orthodox Easter, I remember the line up being the slimmest I've seen in while, but last night there was a particularly odd number of larger and older women. I mean, the line up resembled a large NRW club line up. Customers were scarce too, like 2:1, F: M. The odds were good but the goods were quite odd. I just took a massage from the Thai lady and took Arianna, which was a delightful time. I'm still not into 200 euro hours but at least she gives old school service with no time pressure or upsell from there.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917250]Sharks line up on this past Wednesday was one of the worst I've seen for a 50 e entry Wednesday since Corona. Before Orthodox Easter, I remember the line up being the slimmest I've seen in while, but last night there was a particularly odd number of larger and older women. I mean, the line up resembled a large NRW club line up. Customers were scarce too, like 2:1, F: M. The odds were good but the goods were quite odd.[/QUOTE]Yes I was there in April and last week, and it was similar, the staff behind the bar joked that it was like a Lesbian Party LOL! The 'excuses' of Orthodox Easter, Ramadan, and other public holidays did not apply when I was there in April and as you pointed out: very few male customers, and a very mediocre lineup. Girls like Brenda, Senna, Ester, Abbi, Renata, Catalea, and lots of other girls who's name I don't know and who are normally very busy during the weekend, were standing around a lot in April.

By the way, as mentioned I was also in Sharks last week and to be fair: the month of May is always a bit 'special' because this year there is Orthodox Easter, but also in May there are a lot of German public holidays like Labour Day (May 1st, which is also celebrated in Romania), Ascension Day, and Pentecost, which probably all have an effect on both the visitors and girls present. Nevertheless, I don't remember things being this bad last year in April-May.

However, as I already predicted a while ago: it seems that 1) sky high prices compared to 2019,2) shitty service, 3) lack of salary growth for male customers in combination with high inflation, is finally biting the ladies in the ass. I'm guessing that many men (including locals) have finally woken up that FKK clubs in Germany are no longer a 'good deal' and unsurprisingly they are voting with their feet and wallets, because at the end of the day priority has to be given to paying for rent or mortgage, heating costs, and groceries.

Isn't it ironic that by prohibiting price discussions on the German forum, they are now ultimately destroying their own 'paradise,' because many fixed costs (heating, staff, food, maintenance, security) for Sharks will remain the same. In the end they'll have to pay more entrance for less service and get to 'enjoy' a lousy lineup with high prices.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2917408]Yes I was there in April and last week, and it was similar, the staff behind the bar joked that it was like a Lesbian Party LOL! The 'excuses' of Orthodox Easter, Ramadan, and other public holidays did not apply when I was there in April and as you pointed out: very few male customers, and a very mediocre lineup. Girls like Brenda, Senna, Ester, Abbi, Renata, Catalea, and lots of other girls who's name I don't know and who are normally very busy during the weekend, were standing around a lot in April.

By the way, as mentioned I was also in Sharks last week and to be fair: the month of May is always a bit 'special' because this year there is Orthodox Easter, but also in May there are a lot of German public holidays like Labour Day (May 1st, which is also celebrated in Romania), Ascension Day, and Pentecost, which probably all have an effect on both the visitors and girls present. Nevertheless, I don't remember things being this bad last year in April-May.

However, as I already predicted a while ago: it seems that 1) sky high prices compared to 2019,2) shitty service, 3) lack of salary growth for male customers in combination with high inflation, is finally biting the ladies in the ass. I'm guessing that many men (including locals) have finally woken up that FKK clubs in Germany are no longer a 'good deal' and unsurprisingly they are voting with their feet and wallets, because at the end of the day priority has to be given to paying for rent or mortgage, heating costs, and groceries.

Isn't it ironic that by prohibiting price discussions on the German forum, they are now ultimately destroying their own 'paradise,' because many fixed costs (heating, staff, food, maintenance, security) for Sharks will remain the same. In the end they'll have to pay more entrance for less service and get to 'enjoy' a lousy lineup with high prices.[/QUOTE]I actually meant to say that the line up optics at the end of April was actually pretty good, especially for the guys who like teenie and skinny. But man, Wednesday was rough. It was a Monday quality line up with oldies, fatties, and bad tit jobs. I wasn't there May 1st but I heard it was pretty good being a holiday and the weather was nice, sunny at 25 C. I'm certain the lineup optic quality will improve, and guessing it will do so by this weekend. No way it can get any worse.

As for the price inflation, doubtful changes happen and I'll once against doubt on the guys saying 150 euro was the asking price for 80% of the girls.

But yeah, if the men stay away, yeah, it's a wrap. The question is what can the club do about it? These new girls are set on the 200 e hour.

Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2917136]I heard it said that once you get a BBBJ CIM from Sylvana you will keep going back so these girls better be aware of what they're asking for.[/QUOTE]Same like German Zoe with super sexy milky skin very woman body, legendary Sylvana tour all over FKK land, she is Taylor Swift of FKK land. When she hunted at Samya, just fallen from Mercedes pimp very fresh Romanians looked at her with round eyes, when no hunting at Samya. Funny, when no more teeth, but she gets more business than some real beauties.

When Oase became upselling to fuck tourists, on 2016 , girls lost business and cried. Just normal happen same now at upselling Sharks, when I see ex regulars in other clubs. Can still find 50/30 at Atlanta and in NRW, with prettier than at Sharks. When I'm not a 30 mn rabbit, but like to play my love in bed, only in bed, game, needing at least 1 hour, I don't see any, since very fresh when she arrived, not with Ariana Grande, prostitute look with poneytail with extensions, Lora, worthing 200/60 and I got her in hotel for same rate. Pity a gypsy pimp behind, but a rare supermodel which must be higher than 1,77, natural beauty, even I had to be so careful when fucking her small pussy. But pimps are small size.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2917192]Same information from inside for me. When I criticize kind of chicken robbers casting with bad value for money, but no problem and no safety problem about the club, my tip being to target short old woman with short hair who is much faster than others at the bar. Club is not helped by most girls, for business.[/QUOTE]I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917506]Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.[/QUOTE]Just plug your query into Google Maps Journey Planner.

First airline bus departs at 4:15 am from train station.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917506]Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Samplerr;2917610]Just plug your query into Google Maps Journey Planner.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I tried various searches and never got a coherent answer. Now I know thanks to a courteous gentleman here.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2917614]First airline bus departs at 4:15 am from train station.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro. Now any tips for some good German food in Darmstadt?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917506]Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.[/QUOTE]Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

[URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf[/URL]

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917500]

But yeah, if the men stay away, yeah, it's a wrap. The question is what can the club do about it? These new girls are set on the 200 e hour.[/QUOTE]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of [I]door policy[/I] is usually a very large grey area in most countries.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2917604]I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, the good old days of Dina. Yeah Dina was nice, sexy, funny to talk to, and always provided excellent service. The only slight downside for me was her excessively fake and loud moaning, it's not really my thing, but after I jokingly said to her with a big smile "ssshhhhh Dinaaaa, you're waking everybody up!" during our second room together, she got the hint and was much quieter during subsequent rooms. No need to pay her 150 Euros, my rooms with her were usually 30 minute rooms for 50 Euros and they were a lot of fun. I genuinely hope she's doing well in retirement.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917639]Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

[URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf[/URL]

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2917658]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of [I]door policy[/I] is usually a very large grey area in most countries.
[/QUOTE]I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2917604]I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.[/QUOTE]Because weird to see a granny getting young guys, when old Germans love schoolgirl style, they might have missed at school. What I experienced in 2014/2015 is Dina is too professionnal and not my GFE, not letting go but she wanted to control. Mersi. Hu was much more GFE. I can't say other than Katalina for highest level I got at Sharks, even only 1 2 hours 200 room, but I followed her at Globe and Megan followed me at Globe, when I didn't follow German snow white when she moved to escorting on June 2023 . When Kate was a busy superstar at Globe but looking what I did, as I told her: You don't need to be jealous about Larissa ex Isabella, when I went to Globe for You.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917739]I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.[/QUOTE]Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917815]I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?[/QUOTE]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2917899]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.[/QUOTE]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200€/60 to 150€/60.

Not all but some.

First time in this club (afters years only going to the Frankfurt and Berlin clubs) and was completely overwhelmed when I first walked into the main area (around 3:30 pm). There were naked girls and guys everywhere!! It's so much bigger than Palace. A number of girls approached me before I'd even got to the bar to get a coke! Managed to fend them off, got my drink and went for a stroll around the club. There were girls everywhere, a lot were sitting in groups so it was hard to have a decent look at them all.

Took my time, walked around the grounds too as it was so sunny and warm. Bang on 5 pm nearly half the girls put their towels and headed to the restaurant for dinner but this thinned out the girls in the club so could get a better view. Spotted Toy-rah-an (or something like that, I asked her loads of times but could never quite hear what she wants saying, even in the quiet of the room). The ideal girl next door. She was sitting near the dance pole with the big mirror wall of the stairs to the rooms behind it (near the TV showing the FA Cup Final). She was stunningly beautiful, perfect face, eyes, perky see cup tits, ass and only 23! Only a couple of small tattoos on the inside of her arms, not great English. Should have suspected something was not right when she made me go to her when I made eye contact instead of her coming to me. Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her. Then when it came to licking her, she kept her legs very closed and only allowed me a little bit of access to the top part of her pussy. Then it was on with the red condom and a bit of grinding while also using her hand. Didn't last too long and was happy enough to get out of the room. 100 for 30 minutes Looks 10/10 session 4/10.

Decided to have dinner after that and was thinking about leaving but hung around and started standing near the games at the entrance. Seems to be a good spot as a number of girls came up and gave me hope for a second session. Moved around again and got a place on a couch when Anastasia came back again (having spoken to her earlier) and sat on my lap. She's blonde, 26, Romanian, fake boobs and lips. Which I don't really like. But great ass, lovely eyes and great personality and English. Only one small tattoo on her left wrist. My dick gave me the go ahead for a session with her. Agreed to an erotic massage, session and normal massage. Started off with lots of her rubbing her oily boobs all over my body, then a great BBBJ, after a while she changed position to spread her legs over my chest (allowing lots of fingering of her). When I said I was close to cunning she held off for a while and we chatted some more. Then on with the condom, lots of deep penetration and while I was groping her she said it was OK to finger her asshole! Didn't last too much longer. Then we talked some more and she gave me a fantastic ordinary massage, lots of oil and deep rubbing of my back, shoulders and neck. She then got me to massage her, back shoulders and hand (and didn't me rubbing and kissing her ass either). Really enjoyable hour. Looks 7/10 session 8/10. €200 for the hour (something I never normally bother doing with but she was worth it)!

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2917899]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.[/QUOTE]I agree that prices will likely not go down. Not many people even suggest that. The previous poster actually focused on the lack of quality service for the new asking prices. Criticizing people for not being able to afford it is a simplistic argument that borders on gaslighting as if that were actually the issue. It's a simple matter of fair value and preserving quality when so many like yourself are promoting acquiescence to behaviors that result in a mediocre product. I mean, when making criticism of people's finances, perhaps you should also think twice and consider that some spend on quality and others, perhaps yourself, are willing to pay more for garbage. The fact that you accept these prices at an FKK demonstrate lack of perspective of the mongering scene, particularly in Europe. I for one do not spend much on an average room at an FKK. Now when I find a great one, do I spend 5 hours in a room with her, yeah. Does she have the potential to earn thousands outside of the club with me? Yeah. Your perspective reflects a small narrow vision of what these prices mean in the backdrop of the greater scene. Consider how it makes sense for FKK girls to be charging more than the average private. Prior to covid, 100 per hour was the general rate in clubs. In privates, 150 was the going rate. Now 200 is the club rate while privates are 150-200. Make that make sense.

I was speaking with one local guy who is actually following your suggestion. Well, he used to be a weekly customer and told me that was the first visit for him this year. Where has be been going? The damn apartment buildings where he is in and out with 70 euros. On that night, he was sitting in Sharks regretting his decision because the quality was not better than at the venues outside of the train station.

The reality is written on the wall that there is a quality decline. Girls know that it is affecting their business. The ones who are not 19 and 20 know better and regularly express how bad business has been lately. Only a handful of girls are making good money and their time will pass when guys have tried them. Veteran girls know the value of repeat business and potential for long rooms. These new girls entering at 200 e rates don't have many clients taking them for 5 hours because most guys will not pay 1000 e for 5 hours with one girl. But back when it was 500 for 5 hours? The best girls would have a 5 hour client every single week! I think you should reevaluate your perspective instead of getting defensive that you're okay with being price gouged. It's not that guys expressing your point of view are too rich to care. It's that you don't want to feel like part of the problem.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2917906]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.[/QUOTE]Just only a week or so ago you made the claim that 80% of girls take 150 euro per hour. Was that incorrect or is that 80% now creeping up closer to 85-90% with these girls you claim to have lowered their prices. I mean it's a simple matter of math and logic versus inaccurate claims. Like I said many times, unless she knew me before, not a single girl I've discussed it with has taken 150 e for single hour with me since at least last summer.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917898]Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah![/QUOTE]It should be stickied. I have walked from Dormero to Sharks and Darmstadt Nord to Sharks. Takes about 20-25 minutes. I'm going to look at the contel. Great info. I lost a lot of respect for the information that comes out on this forum because of the fact that its all buried amid rambling posts that say nothiong other than that the poster is distured. Thanks for good information in coherent English.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2917906]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.[/QUOTE]I agree, since I discovered 10 years ago when Sharks was the last of big 5 , management made a lot of works, improving rooms, building chalets I love in garden and not my business, but I find pity many of their girls fuck their business. For the club, Sharks is far higher level than Globe and higher level than Wellcum, better rooms and garden for sex at Sharks, but I'm amazed when I'm told Katalea ask now 150/30 and also many others, when I got her much more fresh without heavy make up for 150/60 and she asked not to stop going with her. On the day, she arrived from Munchen escorting, Jasmin. De was so sophisticated sexy elegant, my dreamed profile. When she asked me what I like, she told me: In Munchen, it would be 400/60 , so I answered: I just arrive, driving from Paris, I return to Paris where I get escorts for 200/55 after they have orgasm. Jasmin told me: I like You, I will discount for You at 200 and I didn't need to control not to go to 1 hour and such fire in bed compare to Katalea small pussy. I did regret she lost her sophisticated sexy, Albanians at night should care more about drinking, so I didn't rush to return to her and she looked at me. Few months later, on beginning of 2023 , she asked me if I wanted to repeat and told: for You, 150 is Ok, we had few other fire intense fucking when she lost control rooms. Bad point was, when girls tell about us, her friend Janina kind of avoided her so kisser such fucker bad guy, but Jasmin. De always did welcome me for 150/60 when she was fast to orgasmus. Except Lora for her fresh supermodel look and fresh GFE, I didn't see any other worthing German escorts rate and I mean prettier ones than little Romanians at Sharks. Only tourist in mind with 0 knowledge can pay to be fucked like this. Same than at Globe, before You paid 260/60 for wow girls, Megan was in reserve be team for almost whole 2017 there and now You pay more than 300/60 for girls from Bundesliga 2 like little Romanians at Sharks, so I don't visit to be fucked, same like Sharks, when I have prettier for 150/60 for really full GFE til Russian blood, really real GFE with confidence. I would be really dumb to pay more expensive for lower quality. Oase girls understood too late how they fucked their business. Friday party was so slow on evening / night, girls hunting. I'm sure many girls in NRW working for half rate, make more money at the end of month and not making cellulite warming ass sitting whole day. I think many Sharks little Romanians should try Globe, when prettier girls I know told me: we know big money there, but we don't accept rules there, rules which kill freshness, even I remember superstar Finnish Ekaterina there, very professionnal but lovely and she gave a lot in sex, but looking at me with round eyes when I was working on her, for sure she never experienced before, when she was really busy and not anymore 18 . From my knowledge of this business, 150/60 should really be maximum for the prettiest who are able to give real GFE, not only few kiss and not able to suck or to fuck, when can still find with prettier than most at Sharks, for 100/120/60 . Or they can warm their ass, making cellulite, whole day, waiting for tourists to fuck and usually, the most expensive they ask, the less they give. With Jasmin. De, after our discovery, but not anymore same square hairstyle, I didn't ask her to repeat for 200/60 , she came proposing for 150/60, when she could stay drinking whole night with Albanians.

[QUOTE=PMunny;2917926] Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her.[/QUOTE]Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2917979]Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.[/QUOTE]When not many are mouth skillful or able to read your body reactions, when most WGs have low level for sex from their pimp and often boring, I often stop because I don t want to pay time for low level, or with princesses, I like to have them on their knees, like we played with Amira ex Samya and she played great, pushing on her head to make her taking whole monstro in her mouth always talking about money, softly of course. With my highest quality, Russian very woman who really want to please back her for weekly orgasmus client, I like when she press on me with her throat, but You can t expect this with Romanian schoolgirl types if You are not mini size. When I love very hot shower, funny how monstro grow under hot water, when he sleep when I ski.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2917658]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them.
[/QUOTE]The management do stop girls working there, I don't know the nature of the complaint but a girl got chucked out last year after a customer went to the manager to complain. Obviously if you agree 100/150 with a girl before you go in the room and then complain afterwards about the price you aren't going to get very far.

I was at the club last night and there were hardly any keys left and queues for the rooms, I think it's doing ok for business. I know weekends are much busier and it does seem quieter during the week than I remember but that seems to be true of almost all FKK clubs.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2917979]Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.[/QUOTE]I like it standing up sometimes. Does that have a name? It is a little hard to get. I guess I could call it the glory hole position.

Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.

P.S. Don't take the above as a reason not to visit, I still had a great time. Talking of the front coaches I tried Rachel for a 4th time and it was really good for me, easily the best of our 4 rooms, she looks great. Someone mentioned the girls that offer CIM are 10%, I think the percentage is higher but she's in that percentage.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2918170]Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.

P.S. Don't take the above as a reason not to visit, I still had a great time. Talking of the front coaches I tried Rachel for a 4th time and it was really good for me, easily the best of our 4 rooms, she looks great. Someone mentioned the girls that offer CIM are 10%, I think the percentage is higher but she's in that percentage.[/QUOTE]I guess I am lucky that I don't care about BBBJ or BJs in general.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917951]......
The reality is written on the wall that there is a quality decline. Girls know that it is affecting their business. The ones who are not 19 and 20 know better and regularly express how bad business has been lately. Only a handful of girls are making good money and their time will pass when guys have tried them. Veteran girls know the value of repeat business and potential for long rooms. These new girls entering at 200 e rates don't have many clients taking them for 5 hours because most guys will not pay 1000 e for 5 hours with one girl. But back when it was 500 for 5 hours? The best girls would have a 5 hour client every single week!......[/QUOTE]I agree.

10 years ago there was a system in place in the clubs where you as a customer knew the price schedule per hour. And the prices for extras were fixed also. If the girls kissed it was either yes or no. But not affecting the price. And if the girls tried anything else then you as the buyer could go to the reception and complain. The reception could agree with you or not, but since the girls knew that too many complaints from too many customers would get them barred from future entries, then it kept them disciplined.

That fixed and known price system also meant that it was very easy to extend the time, and many of us repeat clients extended the time to many hours with favourite girls.

Now 50 euro per half hour as it was back 10 years ago is not really realistic today, because there have maybe been around 50% aggregated inflation since then. But that would make it 75 euro per half hour. In a way - 100 euro for the half hour and 150 euro for the hour is close to being inflation adjusted prices.

But now we cannot be sure that this is even the price. Some girls are even trying to ask for 150 euro for half an hour if it is to be "really good with kissing", and if you are new or a tourist you can be taken for a total ride with the prices. This is totally damaging to the clubs attraction to the male buyers, because people do communicate over the internet on forums etc.

And then the problem is that it is next to impossible to haggle the price down to something fair and then get a really good session right after.

But the "new" prostitution law in Germany which came before the Corona, made it illegal for the club to determine the prices.

I am now thinking that this little "innocent detail" is the most damaging thing to the long term business of both the club, the girls, and the men.

Because personally I really hate having to haggle or accept being cheated. Either way I loose something. I have some old regulars which does not do that with me, so I can go with them, but discovering new girls is really difficult. And I think that many other men feel the same, and then we vote with our feet and take our business elsewhere.

Prices has not increased as much for alternatives outside like privats or escorts for example. And there you will know the price up front. And with whatsapp or other videoapps the ability for verifying pictures has gone up greatly, so you can much better know what you get.

When I compare to prices here in Scandinavia, then 10 years ago, 1 hour at Sharks was way cheaper than 1 hour with a girl in private up here. But if girs want 200 EUR for an hour now at Sharks they are now almost as expensive as up here. But then comes entry costs and travel costs. It makes less and less sense for visitors coming from afar to Sharks I am afraid.

For the short term gain of the individual girl it unfortunately makes total sense to try and hike the prices, once a client has become interested, and now it is not even disallowed. But it makes the market fail in the longer term.

Maybe they should invent some kind of coloured armbands the girls can wear which could signal the different prices up front. Then they are allowed to decide their own prices, but they just have to tell up front before you start to converse with them.

Correct. The club should start tracking customer satisfaction digitally using tracking if room entry and exit times with wristbands and keypad in the room, for quality of service rating, that the customer enters anonymously in a keypad, after the girls leave the room. The constant scamming and haggling would disappear overnight.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2917658]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of [I]door policy[/I] is usually a very large grey area in most countries.

Ah yes, the good old days of Dina. Yeah Dina was nice, sexy, funny to talk to, and always provided excellent service. The only slight downside for me was her excessively fake and loud moaning, it's not really my thing, but after I jokingly said to her with a big smile "ssshhhhh Dinaaaa, you're waking everybody up!" during our second room together, she got the hint and was much quieter during subsequent rooms. No need to pay her 150 Euros, my rooms with her were usually 30 minute rooms for 50 Euros and they were a lot of fun. I genuinely hope she's doing well in retirement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2918170]Talking of blowjobs one thing I'd recommend when trying a new girl now is clarifying what type you'll get. BBBJ used to be so standard I never asked but last year I went to the room with Amy and she said you know it's extra for BJ without condom I said I knew it wasn't and she didn't charge me. I had Celine wanting an extra 50 as well for it so I always ask now.

Better to clarify outside the room, one of my regular girls said one of her customers went with a girl and she also wanted 50 euros extra for BBBJ and then wanted another 50 euros for kissing her breasts! He said he'd take her to the manager and she backed down. He was a local so probably easier for him to go to manager, it's something I've never done. I imagine conversations like that in the room are a bit of a mood killer so that's why I think it's best to clarify outside.

Yesterday I clarified the type of BJ from the girl, it wasn't to my tastes so I started walking away and then she changed what was on offer. I'm not a tough negotiator but it's easy for me to walk away in those circumstances as covered BJs are a waste of time.

I hope we don't get to a situation where clarifying if touching and kissing the breasts is ok, there was the story I mentioned about the girl wanting an extra 50 euros for it and I tried Gabi (Hungarian) who sits on the couches as you walk in, in the room I went to touch her breasts and she said it wasn't possible as she didn't like it. I really think if that's the case she should probably consider a career change.[/QUOTE]How is it possible to feel GFE, meaning feeling like with your GF, after such grocery, a real killing desire, when I m used to my girls coming to me asking: You want me? I want orgasmus, with 0 money talk. I think to give first try on 2024 , but I think I will play German: eating, drinking, and should go to a better value, 150/60 or less for full GFE, on next day, when I hate to pay to be fucked. Anyway, my pickiest eyes and brain will judge for images, when I don t find any attractive since a while at Globe, but I have elegant desirable who are so GFE with me, in Germany for 150/60+, so why to pay more expensive for lower quality.

[QUOTE=FrejOfAsgaard;2918241]I agree.

10 years ago there was a system in place in the clubs where you as a customer knew the price schedule per hour. And the prices for extras were fixed also. If the girls kissed it was either yes or no. But not affecting the price. And if the girls tried anything else then you as the buyer could go to the reception and complain. The reception could agree with you or not, but since the girls knew that too many complaints from too many customers would get them barred from future entries, then it kept them disciplined.

That fixed and known price system also meant that it was very easy to extend the time, and many of us repeat clients extended the time to many hours with favourite girls.

Now 50 euro per half hour as it was back 10 years ago is not really realistic today, because there have maybe been around 50% aggregated inflation since then. But that would make it 75 euro per half hour. In a way - 100 euro for the half hour and 150 euro for the hour is close to being inflation adjusted prices.

But now we cannot be sure that this is even the price. Some girls are even trying to ask for 150 euro for half an hour if it is to be "really good with kissing", and if you are new or a tourist you can be taken for a total ride with the prices. This is totally damaging to the clubs attraction to the male buyers, because people do communicate over the internet on forums etc.

And then the problem is that it is next to impossible to haggle the price down to something fair and then get a really good session right after..[/QUOTE]When Sharks reopened after covid, on July 2021, I had many 100/60 GFE rooms and even with Daisi. De ex Palace. My best on 2021 was for 100/60 on our many rooms. Can t pay more expensive for little Romanians at Sharks than for German escorts, when only tourists will, or old Germans running schoolgirls.

[QUOTE=Lubriderm69;2918267]Correct. The club should start tracking customer satisfaction digitally using tracking if room entry and exit times with wristbands and keypad in the room, for quality of service rating, that the customer enters anonymously in a keypad, after the girls leave the room. The constant scamming and haggling would disappear overnight.[/QUOTE]They do this at Welcum with a kiosk by the money lockers.

Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

[B] #7 - Roxy, [/B]Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

[B] #6 - Stacy, [/B]Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

[B] #5 - Rachel or Rahel, [/B]Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.

Rachel is incredibly kind to me; every time she sees me, she comes over and hugs me. In those moments, I feel like I might be falling for her. We've already had more than six sessions together.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 8/10.

[B] #4 - Celine , [/B]Romanian, 20 yo. 164 cm.

If time were to turn back to high school days, Celine would surely be my homecoming queen. Celine, as well as Stacy, was in my top 2 favorites list last year, She is.

Celine possesses an unbelievably striking beauty with a youthful allure. Despite a few unknowns complaint about her service or pricing, she continues to be booked by her regular customers, some of whom engage in long sessions lasting 2-4 hours. Weekends are her busiest days, she almost fully booked. She typically arrives around 5 pm and departs before 2 am, often sitting with her best friends Rachel, Lina, and Esma on the entrance couches.

Since last year she joined Sharks, we've had over 20 sessions together. Now, I only accompany her when she requests it, particularly when her business is slow. I act as her white knight, spending 1-2 hours in the room to assist my princess, and she always provides me with her best service.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10, Service quality: [B] 8.5 [/B] /10.

[B] #3 - Paris, [/B]German girl, 22, yo. 170 cm.

I do my best to catch Paris, the most beautiful German girl I've seen in clubs for years. Paris is about 170 cm tall, with fair skin and no tattoos. Paris started 3-4 months ago. She appears sporadically, usually on Sundays or some Saturdays. She's always extremely busy. If you couldn't catch her right outside the ladies' dressing room, you probably wouldn't have a chance. I was lucky to catch her, even though she said someone was waiting for her. She could only talk to me for a short time. We introduced ourselves, and I promised I'd wait for her no matter how late it got. She also promised she would look for me whenever she was free.

However, I never saw her that night. A week after we first met, I saw Paris just walking out of the Damenumkleide. But I was already sitting with my little lover Celine and about to take her to a room. I didn't want to hurt Celine for Paris, so we missed each other again. Yet, Paris' face and smile stayed deeply in my mind. It had never happened before that a five-minute meeting would leave such a lasting impression on me.

Visual attractiveness: [B] 9.5 [/B] /10, Service quality: could be 8/10?

[B] #2 - Dilara / Delara, [/B]Romanian, 19-20 yo. 178 cm.

I have very complicated feelings about her. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in many years. We first met at Oase. Her name was Lorena. That night, I had already spent a significant amount of time with Nadia from Romania (although she claimed Ukrainian ethnicity) and her best friend Roberta. Then, I suddenly spotted this beauty. Compared to Lorena, Nadia was nothing more than a girl-next-door. Everyone says Nadia is the top girl at Oase, Yes it sounds true, but that's only if you haven't seen Lorena.

Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit. She is highly selective and aloof with customers. When she might feel tired, she would bluntly turn customers away. However, she is relatively friendly toward me. We've already had three sessions together, each one getting better, while I feel she could still improve. She might be moody, but how could customers not tolerate such a minor flaw given her stunning beauty? She charges customers like Kitty used to do, charging 100 for 30 minutes or 200 for 60 minutes, with an additional 50 euro if without a cover.

Dilara is more beautiful than Kitty, Catelea, Bibi, Chloe and Claudia. She's just as classy and elegant as Maria, Paris, and Spanish Ariana.

Visual attractiveness: [B] 9.5 [/B] /10 , Service quality: 7/10.

Then who is the Number 1 in my heart?

[B] #1 - Ariana[/B] Spanish girl, 22 yo. 165 cm.

I have to say, Spanish Ariana is the most intelligent and beautiful young lady in the club. She easily stands out among the Romanian girls. It's impossible to overlook such breathtaking beauty when she walks around the club.

Of course, most of the time you don't get the opportunity to see her walk around. Just like with Paris, you have to wait outside the Damenumkleide to catch and hold Ariana.

I adore her impeccable delicate appearance and bright big eyes. Her elegance and beauty far surpass even Kitty at her peak. Last year, I had one session with Ariana and ranked her fourth on my list. Recently, I've spent quite a lot of time with her. The more sessions we have, the more I like her. We also chat a lot inside the room, discussing topics ranging from artificial intelligence to the Spanish Civil War. If little lover Celine is like a kind of my high school girlfriend, then Ariana is more like a kind of soul mate to me. She could be a IT business woman if she lived in California. "Silicon Valley princes" is the role she should aspire to in her life. This is how I told her.

Visual attractiveness: [B] 9.5 [/B] /10 , Service quality: [B] 9.5 [/B] /10.

Absolutely great secret decoder ring for Sharks best girls. Sound like we have similar taste and I will take advantage of your insights. Thanks so much for your forum contribution. 🙏127995;.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918568]Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

[B] #7 - Roxy, [/B]Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least.

Visual attractiveness: 7/10; Service quality: 10/10.

[B] #6 - Stacy, [/B]Moldovan, 21-22 yo. 163 cm?

As I mentioned in my previous posts, Stacy was in my top 2 favorites list last year, and she remains in my top list.

There's a little baby fat on her charmingly cute face. Having once lived in Russia, she said that Russian language is her native language. She is a college student and very intelligent to speak 3-4 European languages.

She always looks at her guests with aloofness, as if saying, "You can take my body, but you'll never have my soul and love. " However, she is highly popular among her regular customers; she rarely spends more than 10 minutes sitting at the bar before disappearing with one of her guest. Therefore, it's quite challenging for ordinary visitors to spot this beauty. And Stacy is very selective.

She only works on Wednesdays (or occasionally Thursdays if she doesn't come in on Wednesday) and weekends, from 3 pm to 11 pm. Even though she works for a short amount of time, she still earns significantly more than most of the girls in the club.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7/10.

[B] #5 - Rachel or Rahel, [/B]Romanian, 20 yo. 163 cm.

Meet our new rising star-absolutely stunning and charming, and friendly too. She's been at the club for about six weeks since the end of April, and she's already achieved unbelievable success. Almost all frequent visitors know her, and tourists inquire about her. While she usually sits on the entrance couch, she never stays idle there for more than 5 minutes. Session after session, whether long or short, even on a very slow Monday evening when most girls were idle, She still could secured 12-15 sessions without too much effort.[/QUOTE]You are lucky at Sharks, when You are not demanding for looks, when I never paid for Celine when she was more fresh and less expensive at Oase. Did You speak Russian with Stacy? When I love Russian girls, but won t pay for her look. When my french friend likes Ariana, but as I tell him: I never noticed her and her nose. My standard for look may be too high for Sharks now, same than at Globe.

I would agree about Roxy being 10/10 for service. I know most people don't care about this sort of thing but she's also the nicest person I've ever met in any club.

If you don't mind me asking any reason Catalea didn't make your list? I thought you were a fan of hers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2918704]Absolutely great secret decoder ring for Sharks best girls. Sound like we have similar taste and I will take advantage of your insights. Thanks so much for your forum contribution. 🙏127995;.[/QUOTE]Understanding that, like so many topics here, these are quite subjective determinations. I do feel that the service scores were quite overly generous for people who actually find importance is service.

These number ratings must always consider subjective taste and preferences. Like this poster seems to be into young bubbly type. Classic Asian American preferences it seems. As such, it seems like the physical flaws seem to be forgiven and service does not seem to be weighted all that much. The personalities of the girls listed also seem to fall along the same that attracts the American. Overall, review would best serve club visitors new to the European WG scene, particularly reflecting the tastes and social norms of Americans who are looking to room with the same type of girls (qualities of) they found attractive during their high school or university years. The list is void of girls who are little more sassy in personality making me thing that a bulk of the line up was not even considered as cultural expectations selected for a subset of girls.

For instance, Celine is basically a FemBot and a notorious cock holder during penetration and is often described as an unskilled dead fish. Nine for her optics seems a bit generous, glaringly generous I think. I think for most mongers, a 9 would have already been overly generous when she was new and slim and before she put on at least 5 kgs on a very short frame. I would say the average monger would give her a mid 7 overall, 8 at best if you're polling guys who like the super young dumb blond archetype.

Rachele getting a 9 for optics seems to be quite a bit inflated too. Nice lower body for sure, absolutely perfect for my taste. But tits are young small tits, perhaps even a little oddly shaped. They're almost triangular. Bigger than mosquitos and smaller than Madonna cones. She has a cute face but not a beautiful one by any means, at least not classic beauty. I think her long blonde hair pulls attention away from an otherwise average face. For the average monger, I bet she would get a mid 7 face, 8 to mid 8 body, and mid 6 to mid 7 for service. Overall, if polled, I bet she would get mid 7 to 8.

Ariana, I think everyone would universally agree on her service being pretty great. Her optics seem to also be inflated though. She does grab initial attention, but when you look closer, she's a bit mundane appearing. The body is an average slim body for a 22 year old, nothing great, nothing striking. Face is a normal girl face. Personally I would say for the average monger, her optics would likely settle in the 8's maybe in high 7's if you truly judged her looks without considering her friendly and elegant attitude. I'm personally thinking high 7 or low 8 for optics. My suspicion with the super high service ratings however is that she's getting a half to a full extra point just because she talks a lot and has a western personality with western perspectives. Actual bedroom service for me, I would say is closer to 8 maybe mid 8. Overall if polled, I would guess her average for most guys would be mid 8. Guys mesmerized by her ability to converse about various topics I can see giving her a 9. But mid nine seems pretty far out there. That's saying she's one of the absolutely best of all time. Believe me, she's good but not anywhere close to the near perfection a 9. 5 optics and 9. 5 service would suggest.

I do agree that she's probably the best on the list though. But that is actually a very sad reality. Let's say that this list actually accurately reflects the actual consensus top 7 girls at Sharks. Is this really the premiere club with 200 e per hour brothel prices? Brothel, not privates, not escorts. 200 e brothel girls. Brothel girls who get fucked 10-15 times per day. I mean, I can make a comparative list of 7 from the line up at Penelope where the standard is 100 e per hour. It just reinforces my suspicion that people settling for lower quality at higher prices are contributing to FKK deterioration.

I'm looking at this situation and think about the guys, "dude, what are doing?" Why are you hyping up mediocrity.

Before I was never interested in paying for a girl outside the club. These days, I'm there to check the line up, find one or two girls and quickly transition to seeing the girl outside as the benefit of concentrating on one or two girls seem to be outweighing the benefits of trying many girls in the club.

I planned to write another post explaining why Maria and Catelea are not in my current top seven list. Since some might be curious, I'll address it here.

Regarding Maria, I haven't seen her at the club during my visits over the past four weeks. My top seven list includes only those who are currently available, so Maria is excluded for this reason. If Maria were here, I would definitely rename my list as the 'Top Eight'. I would rate Maria's visual attractiveness as [B]9.5/10 [/B]and her service quality as 8/10. Her rank would be between Paris and Dilara.

Regarding why Catelea is not on the list either, the main reason is that she doesn't get business as consistently as the girls on the top seven list. Many times, she might sit idle at the side of the bar for hours, waiting for customers. However, I would still rate Catelea's visual attractiveness as 7-8/10 and her service quality as 8/10.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2918755]I would agree about Roxy being 10/10 for service. I know most people don't care about this sort of thing but she's also the nicest person I've ever met in any club.

If you don't mind me asking any reason Catalea didn't make your list? I thought you were a fan of hers.[/QUOTE]Roxy was Miss Sharks 2022 , defeating Brenda and Katalea.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918787]I planned to write another post explaining why Maria and Catelea are not in my current top seven list. Since some might be curious, I'll address it here.

Regarding Maria, I haven't seen her at the club during my visits over the past four weeks. My top seven list includes only those who are currently available, so Maria is excluded for this reason. If Maria were here, I would definitely rename my list as the 'Top Eight'. I would rate Maria's visual attractiveness as [B]9.5/10 [/B]and her service quality as 8/10. Her rank would be between Paris and Dilara.

Regarding why Catelea is not on the list either, the main reason is that she doesn't get business as consistently as the girls on the top seven list. Many times, she might sit idle at the side of the bar for hours, waiting for customers. However, I would still rate Catelea's visual attractiveness as 7-8/10 and her service quality as 8/10.[/QUOTE]We really have different eyes, when Maria. Ukr body is nothing wow, but real fire, all is possible in bed with her if You make her cum. Even not as fresh face as when I got her weekly on 2021 , but I would still rank supermodel body Katalea far more attractive look than Stacy, Baylies, Celine, Roxy, but she is not a real GFE. She decided to lower her service, or maybe she was not anymore able, when her pussy seemed not anymore able for caucasian way sex, after only few months, when she was elected Miss 2021 mainly for her look when highest levels, defeating Brenda and Roxy, so quite normal she lost business, at least with regulars, when yes, I often saw her warming her ass sitting at the bar. I also saw Stacy waiting and smiling at the bar, but with my face and hair, I had enough girlfriends at school, fkissing for hours and I prefer close to normal woman looks than schoolgirls. Unfortunately for me, normal woman looks are quite rare at Sharks since German snow white on beginning of Summer 2023 , so I left many times full balls, not good for speed, when legendary Colin Chapman told light is fast, Lotus culture, on autobahns.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2918768]Understanding that, like so many topics here, these are quite subjective determinations. . . Classic Asian American preferences it seems. .[/QUOTE]The taste and preferences regarding what kind of girls one likes are definitely subjective. In spite of this fact, we can still identify the best group of girls from a large crowd through comparison and some relatively objective perspective and criteria.

However, we find that some unknown posters always fail to provide useful information of girls but are enthusiastic about finding fault with others' reports, akin to picking bones out of an egg.

Given the possibility that the poster might be Asian American, it's likely he is familiar with the East Asian proverb: "Some people declare the grapes to be sour merely because they cannot afford to have them. ".

Even if he is an Asian American, he couldn't possibly represent all Asian Americans, making it unsuitable to assert that girls in my top list are classic Asian American preferences.

For instance, the girls in my list are not primarily sought after by Asian American customers. Their main clientele consists of locals or Europeans. Certainly, based on my report, it's anticipated that there will be an increase in the number of Asians / Americans seeking girls from my top list. But you still can not say these seven girls represent classic Asian American preferences.

The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty. Therefore, Escape Artist could readily declare that these girls cater to Asian American preferences and tastes. I don't imply whether they are good or not; they just simply aren't included in my top list.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918568]Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental..[/QUOTE]Oh Stacy, I love her so much. She is such a beautiful and stunning girl, but a little bit too short for me unfortunately. Once I spent several hours with her. As far as I know she is not a college student anymore. Did she tell you she is currently studying? What do you mean she is very selective? I don't remember that she rejected anybody. I saw a Japanese guy who visits only Stacy at he club almost daily and I can't say that he is attractive, but of course it would be difficult to deserve her love, I saw a photo with Stacy and her ex-boyfriend and he is pretty handsome guy.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918957]The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't put Alina in that list, normally I see her sat towards the back with Sabrina and her regular customers come to her.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918957]The taste and preferences regarding what kind of girls one likes are definitely subjective. In spite of this fact, we can still identify the best group of girls from a large crowd through comparison and some relatively objective perspective and criteria.

However, we find that some unknown posters always fail to provide useful information of girls but are enthusiastic about finding fault with others' reports, akin to picking bones out of an egg.

Given the possibility that the poster might be Asian American, it's likely he is familiar with the East Asian proverb: "Some people declare the grapes to be sour merely because they cannot afford to have them. ".

Even if he is an Asian American, he couldn't possibly represent all Asian Americans, making it unsuitable to assert that girls in my top list are classic Asian American preferences.

For instance, the girls in my list are not primarily sought after by Asian American customers. Their main clientele consists of locals or Europeans. Certainly, based on my report, it's anticipated that there will be an increase in the number of Asians / Americans seeking girls from my top list. But you still can not say these seven girls represent classic Asian American preferences.

The true Asian hunters are Melanie, Emma, Simona, Mara, Juliana, Vanessa, Kathleen, Betty (the older one), Alina, Branda, and Kitty. Therefore, Escape Artist could readily declare that these girls cater to Asian American preferences and tastes. I don't imply whether they are good or not; they just simply aren't included in my top list.[/QUOTE]One of the worst rationalizations of the people who helped create the poor situation is the "can't afford it" crowd. Pretty much any American who regularly travels to Europe for hookers can afford it.

An even more irrelevant argument is the statement that a classic representation cannot represent all, an example of the use of the all or none logical fallacy. The word "classic" pretty much negates the rebuttal as not all is obviously inherent, or else the word "all" would have been used and not specifically classic.

The use of several older and fatter former Asian hunters seems out of place as Asian hunting has no role in this assessment as the verbage was Asian preferences. Girls like Emma and Melanie can hunt Asians all they want but they're not getting them since they've grown a bit too large to fall under the umbrella of classic Asian American preferences. Several of the teenie bopper girls listed however are exactly that type.

Ariana, Rachele, and Celine were all super popular with the Asian clients on my most recent visits. Celine less so because she's fat now.

I feel sorry for the guys who take the listing rating seriously, particularly the service ratings from a poster who has already stated that he does not care about service anymore.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2919295]One of the worst rationalizations of the people who helped create the poor situation is the "can't afford it" crowd. Pretty much any American who regularly travels to Europe for hookers can afford it.
[/QUOTE]I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2919408]I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.[/QUOTE]Although it is true that just because one has the money doesn't mean that one can afford to spend that money on a particular good or service, it doesn't logically follow that balking at spending the money due to the price [B]always[/B] equates to not being able to afford it. There have been plenty of times I have chosen not to go with a girl (or even to a particular country) based solely on price. Maybe it was because I thought she was trying to rip me off, or that there just wasn't enough value in what was being offered for the price. I had the money and could have easily afforded it, but I chose not to buy as a matter of [B]principle[/B].

I have the money to monger in places like Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates, but I choose not to return to those destinations not because I can't afford it, but because I know I can find [B]exactly[/B] what I want in other places like Germany and Brazil at much more favorable pricing bringing me greater [B]value[/B] for spending that money. Declining to spend based 100% on the price absolutely [B]does not[/B] always mean one can't afford what's on offer.

It could be that one is an informed consumer and is being smart with their money by looking for the right set of circumstances that brings them the value they seek. They may be well attuned to what a fair price ought to be for the goods or services sought, or even a "hard bargainer" by nature, and won't allow themselves to be gouged or ripped off or just determined to get it on their terms, whether they can afford to pay what's being asked or not. Some people are like that. There are lots of sensible reasons for why people decline to pay a particular price for something other than "I can't afford it". People don't get to be rich by always agreeing to pay the price asked without question just because they can. Wealthy people are often watching their bottom lines closer than anybody else! Believe this.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2919423]
It could be that one is an informed consumer and is being smart with their money by looking for the right set of circumstances that brings them the value they seek. They may be well attuned to what a fair price ought to be for the goods or services sought, or even a "hard bargainer" by nature, and won't allow themselves to be gouged or ripped off or just determined to get it on their terms, whether they can afford to pay what's being asked or not. Some people are like that. There are lots of sensible reasons for why people decline to pay a particular price for something other than "I can't afford it". People don't get to be rich by always agreeing to pay the price asked without question just because they can. Wealthy people are often watching their bottom lines closer than anybody else! Believe this.[/QUOTE]But not being able to afford something, is not an insult or a bad argument or a bad reason, it's reality. There's a fine line between affordability and unaffordability (or cheap and expensive) for many mongers. Many of the mongers sitting in the front of Sharks every day are elderly pensioners who rarely go to a room with a WG because "they can't afford it." In Thailand, the expat pensioners don't get WGs from the top brothels, because "they can't afford it," they get the street walkers. I've mongered in Dubai, there are men who won't walk into brothels because they're not willing to pay the $60 cover charge to get in (the place is called Red Square) because "they can't afford it. "

Furthermore, the terms "ripped off" or "gouged" are also not insults because they're subjective on who you ask. In Dubai, the going rate for an hour with a Russian is $272. Mongers who go to Thailand, Brazil, or the Dominican Republic would scoff at that. They would laugh at anyone going to Dubai and chalk it up as a “ripoff” or “gouge.”

But the point is that "I can't afford that" is a valid logical reason. Many mongers simply cannot afford certain prices and there is nothing wrong with that. Just ask the elderly pensioners in front of Sharks why they never go to a room.

[B] #8 - New Betty, [/B]Romanian, 20 yo. 170 cm.

Here, I introduce a beautiful newcomer: [B]Betty. [/B].

Many sharks regular visitors might scoff at this point. Isn't Betty that middle-aged woman who has been working for 8 years, isn't new or attractive, and has gained a lot of weight, notorious as an Asian hunter?

Not in that case.

[B]New Betty [/B]is 20 yo slender Romanian girl.

One early evening I was waiting for Ariana, I didn't know at that moment that she was booked by an American guy for very long session. After stay idle for very long time, I decided to find new target.

While getting food in the dining room, I suddenly noticed a girl whose back looked very much like Ariana, the only difference being that she was wearing a short instead of thongs.

I thought it was Ariana, so I called out her name. When the girl turned around, to my surprise, it wasn't Ariana. However, I was shocked to see that she was a young girl who was almost as beautiful and lovely as Ariana. Stunning beauty! Very young, white skin, almost No tattoo.

We then sat down together for dinner, and she told me her name was Betty. She has been at Sharks for 2 months. Previously, she worked at Samya and Oase for just a couple of months. I intentionally put on a surprised expression and said, "I heard the Betty here is a middle-aged overweight woman. I didn't expect it to be such a young, beautiful, and slender girl like you. " She gave me a playful pat and said, "You are so funny. ".

I told her that I would take her to the room for one hour. After I brushed my teeth, we walked towards the stairs. She suddenly stopped me and asked if I knew the price. I pretended to be surprised and said, "Then you tell me. " She said 200/ hour. I said OWO should be included in that. She said yes.

In the room, New Betty is exceptionally friendly and agreeable. In terms of service, I must say she is better than a novice. Of course, I care more about her appearance. New Betty seems to mirror Ariana to some extent, and she doesn't smoke cigarettes either. Now new Betty serves as a substitute for Ariana in my view when Ariana is absent from the club.

More and more people are identifying this gem. New Betty has become busy now.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7-8/10.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2919408]I disagree with this. If one refuses to see a WG based solely on price, and not on anything else, then one can't afford it. A billionaire isn't going to complain about price, and most mongers are not billionaires.

The point is there is a limit to how much someone can afford: its how much they are willing to pay. Ofcourse they have the money, that doest mean theyre willing to pay above a certain amount of that money. Otherwise, prostitution prices would be out of control even worse than today because people would just be giving Brenda 1000 euros an hour.

Just because I have x amount of money, doesnt mean I can afford x amount of women, because it could be above what Im willing to pay. And if Im not willing to pay it, despite more than having the money in my bank account, it means I cant afford it.

There are limits (aka affordability) to what the average monger is willing to pay for pussy, and when a WG crosses that threshold, her customer base decreases.[/QUOTE]Not sure what the main point is as we seem to be in agreement that not being to afford and not willing are two different things. Unless someone is spending all of their money on the hobby, most mongers can afford 5 one hour rooms for 1000 e.

What is certainly of more significance is your recognition of the difference between not willing versus can't. The point is that the ridiculous assertion that inflation perpetrators use such a gaslighting argument to rationalize their role.

Regardless of the details, it is even more significant that the locals themselves are no longer attending, at least not the locals who kept prices down and quality up. Go to Sharks these days and you see significantly less older Germans. There are a lot more 100 e non-German locals and just less rooms being take over all.

The guys protecting their egos with faulty arguments of "can't afford" are doing no one any service.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2919490]

But the point is that "I can't afford that" is a valid logical reason. Many mongers simply cannot afford certain prices and there is nothing wrong with that. Just ask the elderly pensioners in front of Sharks why they never go to a room.[/QUOTE]A bit off track, as there are certainly people who actually can't afford it. Or their spending habits in the clubs changed due to the price hikes because they couldn't afford their prior room counts or room times. Even the main perpetuator of this argument has admitted to changing his room counts due to the price hikes.

The point the entire time has been that a few posters attempt detract from their role in club deterioration by gaslighting the people who criticize them for their role in the price hikes by using this ridiculous douchebag argument one would hear coming from a junior finance bro with a half a million dollars of debt.

Hi,

Thank you for the report.

Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?

I will be at Sharks in two weeks.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918568]Approximately 100-120 girls worked at Sharks Club over the weekend. However, around 8-9 pm, half of the rooms on the second floor were empty. This led me to estimate that about 80% of the girls hadn't earned enough to cover their entrance fees by that time.

However, we cannot deny that approximately eight to ten girls were getting business almost nonstop. Not because they charged less or due to lower rates, but because their beauty and / or service distinguished them as top providers in the club. They are undoubtedly very popular among both frequent visitors and tourists.

I knew seven of them and recently had rooms with six in the past four weeks. I'd like to share some information for your reference. If you don't like these girls, please ignore them and refrain from being judgmental.

Here is the list:

[B] #7 - Roxy, [/B]Romanian, 26-27 yo.

All regular visitors are familiar with this exceptionally sweet girl. Despite being only 20 years old when she started at the club seven years ago, she quickly became a favorite among patrons, including myself and many others. On busy weekends, she would tirelessly attend to customers, going from room to room until well past midnight, often completing 10-12 sessions at least...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2919804]Hi,Thank you for the report.Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?I will be at Sharks in two weeks.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2919295]
I feel sorry for the guys who take the listing rating seriously, particularly the service ratings. ..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2919541][B] #8 - New Betty, [/B]Romanian, 20 yo. 170 cm.

Here, I introduce a beautiful newcomer: [B]Betty. [/B].

Many sharks regular visitors might scoff at this point. Isn't Betty that middle-aged woman who has been working for 8 years, isn't new or attractive, and has gained a lot of weight, notorious as an Asian hunter?

Not in that case.

[B]New Betty [/B]is 20 yo slender Romanian girl.

One early evening I was waiting for Ariana, I didn't know at that moment that she was booked by an American guy for very long session. After stay idle for very long time, I decided to find new target.

While getting food in the dining room, I suddenly noticed a girl whose back looked very much like Ariana, the only difference being that she was wearing a short instead of thongs.

I thought it was Ariana, so I called out her name. When the girl turned around, to my surprise, it wasn't Ariana. However, I was shocked to see that she was a young girl who was almost as beautiful and lovely as Ariana. Stunning beauty! Very young, white skin, almost No tattoo.

We then sat down together for dinner, and she told me her name was Betty. She has been at Sharks for 2 months. Previously, she worked at Samya and Oase for just a couple of months. I intentionally put on a surprised expression and said, "I heard the Betty here is a middle-aged overweight woman. I didn't expect it to be such a young, beautiful, and slender girl like you. " She gave me a playful pat and said, "You are so funny. ".

I told her that I would take her to the room for one hour. After I brushed my teeth, we walked towards the stairs. She suddenly stopped me and asked if I knew the price. I pretended to be surprised and said, "Then you tell me. " She said 200/ hour. I said OWO should be included in that. She said yes.

In the room, New Betty is exceptionally friendly and agreeable. In terms of service, I must say she is better than a novice. Of course, I care more about her appearance. New Betty seems to mirror Ariana to some extent, and she doesn't smoke cigarettes either. Now new Betty serves as a substitute for Ariana in my view when Ariana is absent from the club.

More and more people are identifying this gem. New Betty has become busy now.

Visual attractiveness: 9/10; Service quality: 7-8/10.[/QUOTE]You had to ask for OWO for 200/60 ? Really amazing. I m surprised You didn t notice milky skin full natural Rosella who seems more fresh than Celine or Rachel for me. I chose to judge Sharks casting on Friday 31 May, thinking girls would be back from Easter and know guys just got paid. Seemed quite slow business when I arrived at 7 pm, Celine was not busy, Brenda waiting at the bar, Roxy turning around, wearing fishnet. Quite average foods, You took best shower told me a German, no wow for my pickiest eyes and brain. A little blond staying on entry, also not busy, was very smiling and welcoming, introducing herself as Rachel, asking for room, cute little Romanian but no wow to pay for, Rosella is sexier for me, but I need more attractive and woman image to feel desire. I saw some girls from Oase, a tall one who was sexier on previous Friday at Oase party. I stayed 10 hours, didn t feel desire, I must be too picky for Sharks casting when not impressed despite quantity, except maybe for 1 image I saw. I was happy to see Tara who may be higher level for BJ than Sylvana. No Sena nor Sabina nor Katalea nor Stacy seen, not 100% sure for Stacy. I easily felt desire at my best quality GG on Saturday, my Russian woman with highest potential for fucking, telling: You gave me good service, after her pleasure, offering me at chocolate, as I told her: like with a dog who made good job. Sex with her is great, no too big, too hard and I know her spots, since our more than 15 hours. But 1 hour of high level with her cost same than 30 mn with a little Romanian at Sharks, even I understood rate could be different for different guys at Sharks.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeTrigli;2919804]Hi,

Thank you for the report.

Can you give more indications for finding the girls? More details so that I can recognise them?

I will be at Sharks in two weeks.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]When I was not impressed by casting on Friday and had 0 room, better to use your eyes, when mine must be too picky.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2919820]Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.[/QUOTE]But he goes with almost same than you. If I really understand english, I think he paid 200/60 for short with big nose Ariana, not so different than you, when I was not interested for 100 with Rachel, when smiling cute, but not enough for my desire, when I need so much more.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2919820]Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918568]
Dilara, who recently returned to Sharks a few days ago (she previously worked here from December to March), now occupies the corner couch that Cami used to sit.[/QUOTE]Does Cami still work there? She was a real sweetheart with those pig tails. Any one know which days she works? I remember her walking around the club a lot looking for her next customer. Where does she normally sit now?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920006]Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.[/QUOTE]Laughable. That other dude called the bluff of this CCP shitbing; sure enough, this crapworm had nothing. "I don't disagree with your top 10, I just posted a million messages but your 10 is my 9, otherwise I have no fucking point".

Basically when you have too much time on your hands -- as is the case with this unemployed shitbing on the dole, you post a million nothing messages to make your miserable presence known to others.

"While girls are happily overcharging, the guys happily paying are responsible".

This from the CCP excrement who posted a thousand sob messages how he paid $200 per hour for lousy service. Is this a confession booth, dumbfuck?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920006]Wrong. Clearly the quote didn't say anything about the top girls. I specifically criticized the inflated ratings of someone judiciously throwing out 9 and 9. 5 and how that would leave people who took those numbers to heart.

For others with rational rating scales, imagine someone coming to Sharks looking for the 9 optics. Most would never find a girl on that list. They would spend all day looking for these supposed beautiful women. And if they go in the room expecting a 9 service, double disappointment. That'the why it's a shit list. Setting up guys for failure telling mongers to go find Celine who is a 9 optics and provides 8. 5 service. Geez, she's universally know for starfish, stops you from deep penetration service. And Arianna, while providing great service, a 9. 5 is laughable. And a 9. 5 for her run of the mill college girl looks? Yikes.

Basically, take that list and subtract 1 point from every girl and perhaps it becomes reasonable. But the fact that it was written the way it was, this just reinforce my stance that while the girls are overcharging, the guys happily paying are also responsible for lowering standards and expectations. Normalizing some above average girls to the tier of elite is justification of paying a lot for less in return.[/QUOTE]MY trip is approaching and all the info you guys are giving is invaluable (of course except for the indecipherable babble of the insane dick obsessed dwarf) so could I get an approximation, percentage perhaps, of what would be classifed as "teeny hardbodies".

Also refresh my memory, or advise me of the following:

Can you use credit card for entrance fee.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Or should I just stuff my pocket with cash.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside?

I must have a Pork Knuckle and German style Potato salad. Almost as important as hardbody white pussy. Is there a reccomended Bierstube or whatever in Darmstadt.

I thought the robes were horrible. I usually wear silk kimonos and robes here in Cambodia, doesn't make me look any less repulsive but they aremuch more comfy, can you bring your own?

Can you vape outside?

Thanks. I get to do this once a year and as I'm getting old, got to treat every one like the last one.

Feel free to call if I can help re: Thailand / Cambodia. I see a lot of respected old Thailand hands here but if I can add on obscure subjects such as Siem Reap chicken shacks let me know.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920006]Wrong. n.[/QUOTE]Ok.

Since I already provided 8 girls' names in my top list, please show us the top 8 in your list among the current 150 Girls Sharks lineup.

It doesn't matter how high or low you rate them. For instance, even if you rate the best girls in Sharks as only 5/10 in looks, you can still show us. Then we can compare and understand the differences in your so called Asian American tastes and preferences.

There are many types of Americans who regularly travel to Europe for hookers. One could be a principal engineer at Meta and live in Silicon Valley, while another might be a registered nurse working in LA County Hospital.

The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours; while the latter has to seek girls such as Adella providing 50/30 service at Penelope FKK. Their affordability differs significantly.

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2919820]Since Escape Artist strongly disagrees that the girls in the list are the top ones, please ask him to provide a better list.[/QUOTE]Dude, he asked you. I'd assume he trusts your descriptions. Why bother that someone else apparently disagrees in that case?

[QUOTE=AlwaysRandy;2920014]Does Cami still work there? She was a real sweetheart with those pig tails. Any one know which days she works? I remember her walking around the club a lot looking for her next customer. Where does she normally sit now?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Cami does not work there anymore, I was with her on her last day before she left for Christmas and she told me she would take a 3 week break.

We were friends on Instagram, we exchanged messages on Christmas Day and then around New Year I noticed she blocked me. Her friends Shirin and Romana say she is not coming back, I'm not sure what happened to turn a 3 week break into never coming back.

I had more rooms with her last year than all the other girls in the club combined as you said she was a real sweetheart.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2920076]Unfortunately Cami does not work there anymore, I was with her on her last day before she left for Christmas and she told me she would take a 3 week break.

We were friends on Instagram, we exchanged messages on Christmas Day and then around New Year I noticed she blocked me. Her friends Shirin and Romana say she is not coming back, I'm not sure what happened to turn a 3 week break into never coming back.

I had more rooms with her last year than all the other girls in the club combined as you said she was a real sweetheart.[/QUOTE]So, as I always do when my girls stop, when I m not a pimp, I m always happy for them and wish them a better life than being fucked in brothels. Cami was not my type but I adviced guys who got her for 80 , rate for new Sharks girls and she seemed honest. Sometimes, some girls return after a while.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920044] advise me of the following [/QUOTE]Can you use credit card for entrance fee? No, cash only.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Yes they charge a fee, the ATMs at the train station have also changed to charge a fee. I use the ATMs in a bank or that are run by a bank, there are Deutsche Bank ATMs in the airport (as well as ones that charge a fee) and they don't charge me.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside? No Bolt in Darmstadt, Uber is back though, normally as I'm travelling not very far I either walk or use the Taxi mafia, a girl who lives some distance from Sharks says she saved a bit of money since she switched to Uber.

I thought the robes were horrible, can you bring your own? I've never tried but I've seen other people do this so assume it's not a problem. You can wear a towel intead of a robe or one of the tartan things they have.

Can you vape outside? Yes, no problem with doing it inside either.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2920179]Can you use credit card for entrance fee? No, cash only.

I recall an ATM? Do you get raped on the fees? Yes they charge a fee, the ATMs at the train station have also changed to charge a fee. I use the ATMs in a bank or that are run by a bank, there are Deutsche Bank ATMs in the airport (as well as ones that charge a fee) and they don't charge me.

Is there a signficant difference between say Bolt and the Taxi mafia outside? No Bolt in Darmstadt, Uber is back though, normally as I'm travelling not very far I either walk or use the Taxi mafia, a girl who lives some distance from Sharks says she saved a bit of money since she switched to Uber.

I thought the robes were horrible, can you bring your own? I've never tried but I've seen other people do this so assume it's not a problem. You can wear a towel intead of a robe or one of the tartan things they have.

Can you vape outside? Yes, no problem with doing it inside either.[/QUOTE]Yes, can bring own robe and then easier to spot. 2 ATM in entry. Different rate for girls for different guys.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2920055]Ok.

Since I already provided 8 girls' names in my top list, please show us the top 8 in your list among the current 150 Girls Sharks lineup.

It doesn't matter how high or low you rate them. For instance, even if you rate the best girls in Sharks as only 5/10 in looks, you can still show us. Then we can compare and understand the differences in your so called Asian American tastes and preferences.

There are many types of Americans who regularly travel to Europe for hookers. One could be a principal engineer at Meta and live in Silicon Valley, while another might be a registered nurse working in LA County Hospital.

The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours; while the latter has to seek girls such as Adella providing 50/30 service at Penelope FKK. Their affordability differs significantly.

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.[/QUOTE]From what I saw on last Friday, Tara for best BJ and real woman in bed for me. Sena when she will return. Maybe a new target for me, I will return to be sure with my pickiest eyes.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2920076]......then around New Year I noticed she blocked me........[/QUOTE]New Year's resolution.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2920213]New Year's resolution.[/QUOTE]So, she will return before end of year, or maybe because he didn't wish her for new year.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2920043]Laughable. That other dude called the bluff of this CCP shitbing; sure enough, this crapworm had nothing. "I don't disagree with your top 10, I just posted a million messages but your 10 is my 9, otherwise I have no fucking point".

Basically when you have too much time on your hands -- as is the case with this unemployed shitbing on the dole, you post a million nothing messages to make your miserable presence known to others.

"While girls are happily overcharging, the guys happily paying are responsible".

This from the CCP excrement who posted a thousand sob messages how he paid $200 per hour for lousy service. Is this a confession booth, dumbfuck?[/QUOTE]Well I never argued with anyone's top 10 or whatever. Everyone has their favorites. But if you stopped thinking like scorned woman with a vendetta, I clearly made the case stating that a list filled with so many optical 9's is ridiculous. The service ratings were also completely unrealistic. I'm not sure I've ever posted a thousand sob messages about paying 200 e. The list of girls that got 200 e for an hour from me is a total of one girl, one time, just to say I gave it a chance. Being correct about the details would be helpful on a forum when so many people make absurdly bias posts, posts with agendas, and posts where a poster seems to be completely obsessed with a poster more than he is concerned about girls or the hobby altogether.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2920070]Dude, he asked you. I'd assume he trusts your descriptions. Why bother that someone else apparently disagrees in that case?[/QUOTE]My opinion is that the posters who support paying 200 e are inflating their ratings to make them feel better about paying so much. "I paid 200 e to fuck a 9 optic with excellent service" sounds better than I paid 200 e (more than at a private) with an above average girl giving run of the mill service. I mean, the rating of Arianna to me seems to show that when one pretty good all around provider comes, in comparison to the other mediocre girls, he's like, "She's perfect. " No, she's solid but shouldn't be the top rated girl at the supposed top club in Germany.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920230]The list of girls that got 200 e for an hour from me is a total of one girl, one time, just to say I gave it a chance. .[/QUOTE]This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920044]I thought the robes were horrible. I usually wear silk kimonos and robes here in Cambodia, doesn't make me look any less repulsive but they aremuch more comfy, can you bring your own?.[/QUOTE]No problem. I take my own flip flops and sometimes my own robe, in fact the reception seem quite happy when I say I have my own.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2920263]This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.[/QUOTE]You use to pay more expensive than some and for average looks for me, when no wow for Celine, Rachel, Stacy and my eyes never noticed Ariana as I always told my French friend. When I had more than 500 € rooms, but not with same looks and they were really top GFE. Would be a professional mistake for me to pay more for lower quality, when my best quality in FKK land, not small pussy and baby kiss, is for 150/60+.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2920055]Ok.


The former could easily pay 1000 euros to book Ariana for five hours..

Visiting FKK clubs is more or less a luxury hobby.[/QUOTE]So the rate for long rooms is 200 per hour!

Last time I visit (August 2022) it was 550 for 5 Hours.

Huge increase.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2920263]This spending pattern corresponds to the scenario I hypothesized in my previous post.

A principal software engineer at Meta, earning around $600 K a year possibly, has a different level of affordability compared to an RN at LA County Hospital who might earn less than $100 K a year.

This could clarify why someone (A, possibly an RN) was upset with another (M, potentially a Meta engineer) who merely mentioned booking multiple-hour sessions with Ariana or Celine at the prevailing rate.

Because (A) can't pay the standard rate for the top girls, he became one of those "sour grapes" individuals who criticizes what they can't afford.[/QUOTE]Introducing 500 K or even 100 K salaries seem quite irrelevant as I'm willing to bet that the average clubber makes less than 100 K as the largest demographic of Sharks clubbers these days are younger locals doing 30 minute pops. It seems that focusing on this doesn't reflect the pricing that applies to the majority of the Sharks clientele. And with business being void of affluent locals, I'm guessing the Affluent but spendthrift German customers who actually make 150 K to 250 K see that Sharks' current situation is not as appealing.

But quickly, I don't do top tens but here's some realistic ratings while considering that number scale is subjective.

Elite optics: None. There are no nines at Sharks.

Elite service: individualized so the old phrase YMMV but I can say that even the best girls are not providing 9 service on the regular.

Reliable service (7. 5+ but YMMV): Ariana, Lori, Ginger, Roxy, Melissa, Kendra.

Higher tier optics (7. 5+ but less than 9): Simona, Ginger, Lori, Melissa, Ariana, Liz, Catalea, Rachele etc.

The point again, is that readers should question a report claiming that there are so many 9 optics and 9 service at Sharks. Don't set your expectations lead you to disappoibtmebt fellas. I suspect people inflate ratings to justify their egos because they know they are overpaying. Any other poster visiting this club regularly likely also finds these ratings quite laughable.

The fixation on affordability and income really just lets me know we are not operating from a position of true wealth or someone who can is speaking as close to objective as one can be. It reflects an insecurity in one's own position. I don't know many software engineers in California who touch 500 K and don't know any California nurse making less than 150 K. This example of inflated and deflated numbers are consistent with the inflated ratings of Sharks girls.

Funny to see a guy so proud of paying 200 e per hour when I've literally fucked some of the same girls in private for 150 per hour, even 100 e per hour, or even 500 e overnights.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2920459]So the rate for long rooms is 200 per hour!

Last time I visit (August 2022) it was 550 for 5 Hours.

Huge increase.[/QUOTE]Some guys seem to like to pay more expensive than some others, when a girl among the eight doesn t ask more than 100 for more than 30 minutes, because she wants to keep a guy for client.

Almost three weeks ago, I saw a new bartender at Sharks named "Mina", who is the most sweetest bartender I've ever seen there. In comparison, the other bartender, "Theodora", has an unattractive and sour demeanor.

Even when there were many customers, as soon as Mina saw me sitting at the bar, she always came over first with a sweet and lovely smile, called out my name, and asked what I wanted to drink. Because of Mina, I started to sit at the bar and watch her for 15-20 minutes without taking my eyes off her.

However, I did not see her during my last three visits. I really miss her. Does anyone know if bartender Mina still works there?

Seem very different tastes here and just normal when subjective and I know, from my past life and experiences, I m pickier than others. Some are crazy about little girl looks, what I call schoolgirls, many old Germans being, but I m not. I prefer looks who are the closest to normal women we can see in real life and elegance and charm are exciting for me. Some seem to only play tourist at Sharks, when I find most Sharks girls too expensive for their look and compare to business in Germany. When I always told I find normal pretty girls worth more expensive, but no wow for my eyes at Sharks and I see prettier elsewhere for 100/60 or 120 or 150 and 0 upselling killing my desire and I m pretty sure higher real GFE level, meaning fluently fkissing, not robotic BBBJ and real vagina potential for a real size, than at Sharks. Except for a rare beauty like Lora. FR, I will never accept to pay more expensive for quite average levels than for a German escort beauty when I paid less than 200 . Quantity at Sharks, but not best value for money nor quality in Germany. Same for Globe in Switzerland. I may become too demanding, when I enjoyed most prettiest I saw and I m not able to lower my tastes I highered since covid and won t pay more expensive than value I rank, or I would feel fucked and would kill my pleasure. Image is my first criteria, then I m motivated to do the job and don t need Globe rules, but I don t want to feel fucked. I was happy Jasmin. De at Sharks discounted to 150/60 after our discovery, to make me repeating and also got discount from German escorts, this give me pleasure, to get from what You are. When I find level of Romanians fell since 2022 , when I got so many great, now I m more interested by fresh Germans, not silicon tattoed of course, and of course my top Russia with woman image and sexy Italia who play woman with me.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2920539]Almost three weeks ago, I saw a new bartender at Sharks named "Mina", who is the most sweetest bartender I've ever seen there. In comparison, the other bartender, "Theodora", has an unattractive and sour demeanor.

Even when there were many customers, as soon as Mina saw me sitting at the bar, she always came over first with a sweet and lovely smile, called out my name, and asked what I wanted to drink. Because of Mina, I started to sit at the bar and watch her for 15-20 minutes without taking my eyes off her.

However, I did not see her during my last three visits. I really miss her. Does anyone know if bartender Mina still works there?[/QUOTE]I don t know if Mina, but on Friday, there was a small with tattoes and rasta style long blond hair who was so fast to serve, what a surprise.

[QUOTE=Long420;2920833]According to reports, one foreigner was found in a seriously injured condition just nearby Sharks. This might be the same case as the reports of attacks last time. This was posted in German forum but deleted immediately. There is certainly something fishy going on with customers visiting Sharks.[/QUOTE]There is something fishy going on with you.

Even I m really not impressed by casting on 2 last fridays, but I found, or would have been a real professionnal mistake according to where I m from. Sylvana, Andrea ex Bruggen, Valentina, are back. Visiting Sharks and parking at night are safe. Only robbers are more and more girls. Yesterday, after our diner to introduce to each other, my new girl did discount for our discovery and contact after to repeat. Sharks only worth now for me to find interesting Germans who worth more than average and too expensive dacias.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2920698]I don t know if Mina, but on Friday, there was a small with tattoes and rasta style long blond hair who was so fast to serve, what a surprise.[/QUOTE]I saw 3 better looking at bar on this week end with 2 cute brunettes and rasta blond with pretty face. Improvement at the bar, but not for foods. Great discovery for me, making me think, even only business in brothels, even I have 3 other top girls in NRW, but I can t go with another one at the moment, for respect for when being so lucky and not only for sex. Our time was for old rate, when having other to offer than just paying, when I told her on our on diner introduction, I would not pay so expensive and after, no more money talk, just smiles and time together. So many asking too expensive and waiting for hours, looking sad, smiling to You when You pass near. Same than at Oase, most girls cut their tree, not so busy on this week end, like on previous Friday. And on beginning of July, Germans will go on holidays in south of my France, or Spain. Some Asians seem more difficult to fuck now than in the past, for specialists.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2921064]There is something fishy going on with you.[/QUOTE]Indeed! LOL!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920464]
Higher tier optics (7. 5+ but less than 9): Simona, Ginger, Lori, Melissa, Ariana, Liz, Catalea, Rachele etc.

[/QUOTE]Opinions about optics and service of course vary from person to person. I think Simona is a good example of even if you are new a club something that should raise a red flag.

Most people would agree she looks good but if you see a good looking girl sat around for a long time without customers it should tell you something about their service.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2921309]Opinions about optics and service of course vary from person to person. I think Simona is a good example of even if you are new a club something that should raise a red flag.

Most people would agree she looks good but if you see a good looking girl sat around for a long time without customers it should tell you something about their service.[/QUOTE]For sure which is why you'll notice that she is in the good optics group but did not make the good service list.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2920076]Unfortunately Cami does not work there anymore, I was with her on her last day before she left for Christmas and she told me she would take a 3 week break.

We were friends on Instagram, we exchanged messages on Christmas Day and then around New Year I noticed she blocked me. Her friends Shirin and Romana say she is not coming back, I'm not sure what happened to turn a 3 week break into never coming back.

I had more rooms with her last year than all the other girls in the club combined as you said she was a real sweetheart.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on Cami. It must have been so disappointing to lose her as a friend on IG. Now that I know she isn't there anymore, don't have to hold out looking for her.

Found a new replacement on with Stephania.

She's a cute young Romanian, about 20 and at Sharks for 3 weeks. She was good to kiss and twitched when her pussy was licked at the right spots. Reminded me how Cami would make soft moans when her mound was being eaten so it seem real and not like acting. Stephania walks around with her friend Nadina, also 20. Both of them have the same brown hair to their back and look like sisters. They are not but if they did a duo, it would be fantasy come true for many.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2921309]Opinions about optics and service of course vary from person to person. I think Simona is a good example of even if you are new a club something that should raise a red flag.

Most people would agree she looks good but if you see a good looking girl sat around for a long time without customers it should tell you something about their service.[/QUOTE]Wavy hair on Friday, like Misha yesterday. Simona is not a wow look for me. Many girls with no business for hours, too expensive for their level.

[QUOTE=AlwaysRandy;2921317]Thanks for the info on Cami. It must have been so disappointing to lose her as a friend on IG. Now that I know she isn't there anymore, don't have to hold out looking for her.

Found a new replacement on with Stephania.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip about Stephania, I'll try to spot her, I haven't found a Cami replacement yet although I like Rachel who sits on the front coaches.

As for Cami herself, I can totally understand why a 22 year old Romanian girl wouldn't want to stay friends with a 45 year old Englishman on IG. I was surprised when she added me, I showed her something on my phone and she wanted me to send it to her so she took my phone and added me on IG, I didn't have much choice in the matter!

Being friends with someone on social media can be risky for a girl. There was a girl called Inca who worked there a few years ago, the way she described the story to me she had given her phone number to a client but the number was also linked to her Facebook account so she appeared on his people who might know list, they then had a falling out and he started messaging her friends on Facebook telling them where she worked.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2921326]Wavy hair on Friday, like Misha yesterday. Simona is not a wow look for me. Many girls with no business for hours, too expensive for their level.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Rachel on this week end, Celine ex Oase was alone. I saw Sabrina, Alina, Tara, Madalina, Kaira, Agnes. Pol, Lara. De.

If You think You are threatened around Sharks, then just call 110 for polizei, don t worry when Sharks is legal in Germany. I was sometimes controlled by polizei when leaving clubs and no problem, when I don t drink alcohol. I think Sharks management would not like their clients to be attacked on parking, when many taxis are also on parking and at night. On fridays 31 May and 7 June and Saturday 8 June, business seemed quite slow, many girls with no business, many keys on board, desk asking me which one I wanted, so management don t need to lose more business from attackers and HA could catch them, when too expensive girls make already lose enough business to the club. I was very happy about my discovery and repeating her on this week end. Should repeat if same magic.

I've not seen it on their website but Sharks give a birthday discount, entry is 45 euros. You need to show them ID to get the discount which makes sense, they take a copy of it as well though which might put a few people off.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2921726]I've not seen it on their website but Sharks give a birthday discount, entry is 45 euros. You need to show them ID to get the discount which makes sense, they take a copy of it as well though which might put a few people off.[/QUOTE]In some clubs, entry is free on birthday. Good point for Sharks for discount 20 , even I prefer ski for my birthday, la Grave la Meije with Girose glacier and above Chancel lake corridor where You don t see the bottom when You start, not broad enough to pass Neo66 through rocks, a day to die, or feeling alive when You arrive at the bottom, feeling strong enough for 1 more year, dreaming for a next run. A bit same adrenaline in Mont Gelé Verbier side, but better sight for rocks below where You can crash. Better birthday for me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2921538]If You think You are threatened around Sharks, then just call 110 for polizei, don t worry when Sharks is legal in Germany. I was sometimes controlled by polizei when leaving clubs and no problem, when I don t drink alcohol. I think Sharks management would not like their clients to be attacked on parking, when many taxis are also on parking and at night. On fridays 31 May and 7 June and Saturday 8 June, business seemed quite slow, many girls with no business, many keys on board, desk asking me which one I wanted, so management don t need to lose more business from attackers and HA could catch them, when too expensive girls make already lose enough business to the club. I was very happy about my discovery and repeating her on this week end. Should repeat if same magic.[/QUOTE]I think calling police is only good for EU citizens but foreigners don't want to get involved in these cases. I myself saw one attack but there was no report or anything like that. It is not good for reputation of the visitor as the issues are related to brothels and the man involved in attacks are pimps.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2921508]I didn't see Rachel on this week end, Celine ex Oase was alone. I saw Sabrina, Alina, Tara, Madalina, Kaira, Agnes. Pol, Lara. De.[/QUOTE]Also seen 1,85 bare feet supermodel with long legs Kelli ex Globe and Oase. On repeating rare on Saturday, I was happy to go in garden chalet I love, but no ventilation working, so a real sauna, sweating on her, but she followed my sport and it was great repeating. Advantage to be used to climb legends under 45 degrees under sun on bicycle. Looking forward my legends tour for my holidays.

[QUOTE=Romeo428;2921796]I think calling police is only good for EU citizens but foreigners don't want to get involved in these cases. I myself saw one attack but there was no report or anything like that. It is not good for reputation of the visitor as the issues are related to brothels and the man involved in attacks are pimps.[/QUOTE]Polizei would protect not only Caucasians, but also Asians. I never saw pimps on Sharks parking and I doubt they would risk problems around Sharks, when they know for HA and they would risk their girls to lose their business at Sharks. Seem more like eastern rising sun urban legends, when Sharks is as safe as other clubs for me, despite some Germans who don't like me, but as told manager: we are all clients.

Day one. Arrived Sharks maybe 9 ish. 65€ entry. Good crowd with enough pretty girls. Honestly for me Sharks is mostly a 6-7 crowd, with quite a bit of fake tits and fake lips. But it's a great club atmosphere and big and luxe. The girls don't compare to Scandallo in Brazil say, but plenty fuckable if you choose carefully. Unfortunately my first choice I did not choose carefully; but my three subsequent choices were great.

I made a pact with my mate that we weren't going to go for say the first hour and we fended off several advances. After a while tho I succumbed to the advances of Anya (I think). She's really not my type — a bit chubby with massive fake lips. But she had good game and convinced me to go. She wanted the now-standard 100 and I said ok to 130 including CIM (which is normally 50).

Unfortunately in the room she was a limited action and upsell girl. The BJ and fucking were ok but not spectacular and she wanted 20€ for ball lick and suck which I caved on. She gave my balls a couple quick licks with the tip of her tongue and it was decidedly lame. Ended up with a super lame finish of her jacking me against her tits. When we were done we got into it over money because I gave her 120 despite the lame BLS and she demanded 150 because I came on her tits. Fuck off. I stood firm and she got pissed and stalked off with her undeserved 120.

Bad start but I've been at this a long time worldwide and know to just say next next and learn from rookie errors that I continue to make from time to time despite my experience. Pulling the Phoenix from the ashes, I scored a nice win with Sandra, a super slim and clearly very experienced girl.

Sandra approached me at the bar and got very close and friendly. We discussed terms frankly and she agreed the 100/ half would include great slow BJ and BLS and man she wasn't lying. That girl loves to suck dick. One of the top five BJs I've ever had and that's lofty company.

In the room, the BJ is indeed epic. She can deep throat — though I am only average length — but remarkably she can use her tongue at the base of the shaft while deep throated. I've only known two other girls ever that could do this and wow it's something. She worships your cock like it's the best thing she's ever had and is sloppy and slow and her BLS is on point.

I end up extending to a full hour and CIM because she's absolutely amazing on BJ. The fucking itself is meh as her pussy is not a great fit for me. But she literally BJed at least 35 minutes if our time if not more. Part of the BJ we did in Steve 2 position which even the pros seem a little confused about at first. Her on her back / side, your cock in her mouth and hand on her pussy. She didn't want deep inside fingering but fair enough I hadn't negotiated that; but really nice fingering of her clit and pussy opening without going deep. Fuck I love to play with pussy while being blown.

As I say she loves to suck dick no lie. At one point she says "I could suck your dick for five hours" and I believe her. The contrast between girls that LOVE to suck dick and those that HAVE to suck dick always blows my mind. She just adores it and it shows. In the end I blow a hot load in her mouth and we have some great pillow talk.

As an aside, I was there with a buddy and he got propositioned by the only black girl there. She was a real stunner. Like a 9. But wait for it. She wanted 225/ half! Wtf? Fuck off! She sat unoccupied both nights and no surprise there.

Night two was even better, with a three girl run and Sandra the finisher. I started with Dianna. Pretty tallish girl with nice natural Bcups and a good attitude. Her BJ was solid, though my first with a tongue stud, which I found distracting. But the sex was excellent. For some reason her pussy was just magic in mish, cowgirl, and doggie. The rare trifecta. And shockingly I shot out a shattering load in mish, which rarely happens. Really great fucking and nice girl.

Girl number two was Emily. She sits by herself to the left of the bar and is a loner. She doesn't care for the other girls. Clearly a little older (32?) but such pretty eyes and smile. She's built like a solid woman, unlike Sandras almost impossibly slim frame; but I like that from time to time. Mostly she's just very sweet and accommodating. She actually offers up kissing for the 100 which is rare and ball licking (turns out she won't suck balls, but oh well).

In the room it's a lovely time. The most romantic of the four if you can call it that at an FKK. Sweet and tender and takes direction well. Sandra's BJ is better. And Dianna's fucking is better; but overall it's a nice time and the LFK adds a lot for me, especially kissing while in mish.

We try every trick in the book (tho ball sucking prob would have worked) including a pretty great masturbation show, but no dice. She apologizes twice for not getting me off but she was a good time and I've got Sandra the finisher waiting in the wings.

After a bit of relaxation I seek out Sandra who scolds me lightly for fucking other girls but is of course ready to suck my dick dry and empty my balls into her willing mouth. So off to the room we go.

Of course it's late and I'm tired and been drinking so it's a labor of love. She starts nice and slow and works me up from dead flat to a nice bit of hard on. Damn she's good. But it just doesn't feel the same for the first ten minutes. My little soldier is worn out. But damn she's the BJ queen. She keeps at it and I start to feel a little build.

As she's slathering the fuck out of my dick she says how she loves to suck dick. More than fucking or having her pussy eaten. She could just do it forever — although forever in this case is 20 minutes.

We do some Steve 2 which is heavenly. But then back with her between my legs she starts getting really sexy with doe eyes and swirling her tongue around the head and taking it slowly in her mouth. And so although I resolved to only do vanilla 100/ hf I can't help but blow a hot load in her mouth CIM. Fuck she's good. She tells me my cum tastes sweet. Awwww. That German multivitamin juice at breakfast must be doing it's thing!

After a full ball emptying I wrap things up having had four girls over two days including the Sandra reprise. Anya the biatch is long in the rearview and the other three were great in their own ways. Sharks remains a solid pick with a fun and luxe atmosphere and plenty of hot girls to fuck if you pick wisely.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2922077]As an aside, I was there with a buddy and he got propositioned by the only black girl there. She was a real stunner. Like a 9. But wait for it. She wanted 225/ half! Wtf? Fuck off! She sat unoccupied both nights and no surprise there.
[/QUOTE]Wow. Some WGs just don't understand how supply and demand works. Inflating a price above market value, with no demand, only means less customers and no business.

I'll be in Frankfurt this weekend and I can't decide if I want to spend both Friday and Saturday at Sharks, or Friday at Sharks and Saturday at Oase. I definitely prefer sharks but I know Oase has a few stunners as well.

I can't wait to see in person who this African woman is, with such audacity, if she happens to be there.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2922190]Wow. Some WGs just don't understand how supply and demand works. Inflating a price above market value, with no demand, only means less customers and no business.

I'll be in Frankfurt this weekend and I can't decide if I want to spend both Friday and Saturday at Sharks, or Friday at Sharks and Saturday at Oase. I definitely prefer sharks but I know Oase has a few stunners as well.

I can't wait to see in person who this African woman is, with such audacity, if she happens to be there.[/QUOTE]I was going to go to Oase for variety but checked Uber and it was 9 to sharks and 90 to Oase from where we were staying. Didn't think 180 roundtrip made much sense so thus the repeat.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2922077]

Girl number two was Emily. She sits by herself to the left of the bar and is a loner. She doesn't care for the other girls. Clearly a little older (32?) but such pretty eyes and smile. She's built like a solid woman, unlike Sandras almost impossibly slim frame; but I like that from time to time. Mostly she's just very sweet and accommodating. She actually offers up kissing for the 100 which is rare and ball licking (turns out she won't suck balls, but oh well).

In the room it's a lovely time. The most romantic of the four if you can call it that at an FKK. Sweet and tender and takes direction well. Sandra's BJ is better. And Dianna's fucking is better; but overall it's a nice time and the LFK adds a lot for me, especially kissing while in mish. [/QUOTE]Glad you had fun at Sharks Steve. All the best to you. Yes it is rare to get DFK at Sharks now, even at 100 for 30 minutes. That's why I think Globe at 150 for 30 minutes with DFK plus public sex is the best FKK deal now. I only do public sex at Globe now, no exceptions. The only thing I don't like about Globe is they only have naked girls on display on Mon, Tues, Thurs while Sharks has naked girls everyday. I was able to do some public sex in the Sharks garden near the pool during the summer. Most Sharks girls don't want public sex though.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2922300]Glad you had fun at Sharks Steve. All the best to you. Yes it is rare to get DFK at Sharks now, even at 100 for 30 minutes. That's why I think Globe at 150 for 30 minutes with DFK plus public sex is the best FKK deal now. I only do public sex at Globe now, no exceptions. The only thing I don't like about Globe is they only have naked girls on display on Mon, Tues, Thurs while Sharks has naked girls everyday. I was able to do some public sex in the Sharks garden near the pool during the summer. Most Sharks girls don't want public sex though.[/QUOTE]Fkiss are less rare at Sharks than Wellcum. Sharks is still better value for me than Globe with now average looks I don t want to pay for. Too expensive girls at Sharks, but still some worthing. Other better values for money than Sharks in Germany where I m used to have full GFE with more elegant than at Globe 150/60 rooms.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2922190]
I'll be in Frankfurt this weekend and I can't decide if I want to spend both Friday and Saturday at Sharks, or Friday at Sharks and Saturday at Oase. I definitely prefer sharks but I know Oase has a few stunners as well.

I can't wait to see in person who this African woman is, with such audacity, if she happens to be there.[/QUOTE]Maybe she's thinking as the only black girl someone will be willing to pay the price. 225 is a very odd figure to choose as well.

I was in Oase last Saturday and it didn't do much for me, quite a lot of the girls covered themselves up as well. There is a party in Oase this weekend which may or may not influence your decision to go.

After Oase I visited sharks, big and nice club but the girls kept telling me "Indiano" or something similar, I found out that it was Indian in Romanian language. Most of the girls were rude and I felt racism there.

Finally I found Emily, the room was ok but the girls kept calling me Indiano continuously. I felt bad and left the club.

Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2922358]Maybe she's thinking as the only black girl someone will be willing to pay the price. 225 is a very odd figure to choose as well.
[/QUOTE]Most people won't have anything under a 20 note, the 'real' price is probably 240 because who has change these days.

[QUOTE=Sg675;2922370]Most people won't have anything under a 20 note, the 'real' price is probably 240 because who has change these days.[/QUOTE]At EUR 225 for 1/2 hour she is not serious. She's probably a student working on a dissertation on the sex industry for her masters.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]After Oase I visited sharks, big and nice club but the girls kept telling me "Indiano" or something similar, I found out that it was Indian in Romanian language. Most of the girls were rude and I felt racism there.

Finally I found Emily, the room was ok but the girls kept calling me Indiano continuously. I felt bad and left the club.

Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]There's an Indian guy who I used to see so many times at Sharks that we began to chat. I saw no racism towards him by the girls. I never heard the girls call him Indiano. This was all pre-2020.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]After Oase I visited sharks, big and nice club but the girls kept telling me "Indiano" or something similar, I found out that it was Indian in Romanian language. Most of the girls were rude and I felt racism there.

Finally I found Emily, the room was ok but the girls kept calling me Indiano continuously. I felt bad and left the club.

Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]Many girls don't go with "dark' skin people like blacks or Indians but I ve never seen anything like harassment or anything. I think whatever the club you have to accept that some girls will not go with you if you are black or Indian or have dark skin.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]After Oase I visited sharks, big and nice club but the girls kept telling me "Indiano" or something similar, I found out that it was Indian in Romanian language. Most of the girls were rude and I felt racism there.

Finally I found Emily, the room was ok but the girls kept calling me Indiano continuously. I felt bad and left the club.

Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]Not saying these are accurate but having been with a TON of working girls worldwide they have the following perceptions almost universally.

Asians like Japanese pay well, cum fast and have small dicks. The saying commonly is 3/3/3. Three inches three minutes three hundred dollars.

Indians as not well liked by working girls. They have a reputation for being verbally abusive, rough and treating the girls like a piece of meat. Actually a girl the other night mentioned she doesn't like to go with Turks for similar reasons.

Presumably you are none of these things but these stereotypes are widely held. It's not just Sharks. Although the girls there can pick and choose a bit based on many customers. Hopefully U proved to Emily that the stereotype does not apply universally and true Indian gentlemen like yourself do exist. You can change the world one fuck at a time!!!😋

Assuming it’s same Emily I had she’s a nice girl and glad u found her.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2922358]
I was in Oase last Saturday and it didn't do much for me, quite a lot of the girls covered themselves up as well. There is a party in Oase this weekend which may or may not influence your decision to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this update. In that case, I'll just stick with Sharks at the moment.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2922200]I was going to go to Oase for variety but checked Uber and it was 9 to sharks and 90 to Oase from where we were staying. Didn't think 180 roundtrip made much sense so thus the repeat.[/QUOTE]Good point. Very logical to pick the much closer club.
[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]
Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]
Is the club racist? No. Ive seen men of countless ethnicities enter and have a good time. African, Turkish, Muslim, Indian, Asian, fat, short, bald, old, heavily tattooed, etc.

Are a small number of girls biased? Sure. But the club has nothing to do with that, and theres plenty of women who are not biased.

That's too general a question. Asia is huge. Generally speaking I've seen no bias against east, middle or southeast Asian anywhere including any place in Europe that I've seen.

That said there is a stereotype that most south asian (Indian) mongers I've personally seen generally fit into.

1) they stink of curry.

2) they treat the girls like they treat each other, they'll screw them at any opportunity and they all want something for nothing.

3) they are grabby and have the mentality that they are paying so they can do whatever they like.

I'm not talking about westernized east Indians from, say, London or the US though some of them still smell like curry in my experience.

I think I've posted this before but in Thailand I've heard the following from more than one girl:

1) How do you know there are Indians in your bar? They order one coke and 3 straws.

2) While you're walking through a field and see a snake and an Indian, hit the Indian first.

Stereotypes for sure but there are plenty of successful Indian mongers everywhere so these aren't rules. Don't be a dick, take a shower and you'll have a chance.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]
Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2922200]I was going to go to Oase for variety but checked Uber and it was 9 to sharks and 90 to Oase from where we were staying. Didn't think 180 roundtrip made much sense so thus the repeat.[/QUOTE]Oase has never been worth the trip for me. A real pain to get to from the city. And I read these forums saying the lineup compares to Sharks, but not from what I've seen (admittedly I've only been 3 times).

Maybe someday someone will build a Sharks-like club with a (better than) Sharks lineup right next to the Hauptbahnhof and they will make a killing!

[QUOTE=JefferyG;2922505]Oase has never been worth the trip for me. A real pain to get to from the city. And I read these forums saying the lineup compares to Sharks, but not from what I've seen (admittedly I've only been 3 times).

Maybe someday someone will build a Sharks-like club with a (better than) Sharks lineup right next to the Hauptbahnhof and they will make a killing![/QUOTE]I actually find it really, really easy to get to Oase if you take the train for cheap. I typically will book a hotel room near the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof. From there, I would take the S5 train to Freidrichsdorf. And from there it's a short taxi ride to the club. The problem is that normally I would stay until after the trains stopped running, which meant taking a taxi back to Frankfurt for 45 to 55 Euros somewhere in there. But for me in Germany, Oase was always a "must do" club. Had too many good sexual liaisons there with hot girls. If any of you old timers remember blue-eyed blonde "Steffie" or "Stephanie" at Oase she is one of my favorites of all time on any continent. I've never gone to Oase and not found more than enough quality tutes to fuck. Admittedly its been a while, but the distance would not deter me one bit! Well worth the fucks LOL!

[QUOTE=JefferyG;2922505]Oase has never been worth the trip for me. A real pain to get to from the city. And I read these forums saying the lineup compares to Sharks, but not from what I've seen (admittedly I've only been 3 times).

Maybe someday someone will build a Sharks-like club with a (better than) Sharks lineup right next to the Hauptbahnhof and they will make a killing![/QUOTE]Less girls, but some are prettier than at Sharks, at Oase. At Sharks, since Summer 2023 , mostly average looks for my eyes, really very few to pay for and most are bad value for money, asking more expensive than German escorts. More and more daring to ask 150/30 and 250/60 to sell GFE. No GFE for me when I'm fucked. When image is first criteria, but good price like my 400 for more than 4 hours, is also part of quality.

I was at Oase on Saturday and in Sharks yesterday on Thursday. For getting to Oase I did as The Cane described, getting back I left around 9 pm, walked to Seulberg and got the S-Bahn so pretty cheap.

Quantity doesn't mean quality and there are plenty of girls I wouldn't touch at Sharks but overall the lineup was so much better for me, I have no problems finding girls I want to go with, deciding who is more of problem. I could only find Nadia in Oase who I really wanted to go with.

Didn't help that a lot of the girls in Oase were covered up so I ruled them out straight away, I've had too many nasty surprises when a girl takes their top off in the past. Unfortunately the crack down Sharks management had on the same thing has died a death but the issue isn't so prevalent at Sharks.

I'm surprised more Sharks girls don't give Oase a go though, the ratio of men to women seemed more in their favour. Because of where she sits I walk past Rachel's spot quite often and only once did I see her there and she said she was waiting for a client, rest of the time she was busy but some other girls I never once saw them going to a room.

Saying that my favourite from last year Cami worked for 2 days in Oase and said she had one client each day so maybe the more favourable ratio doesn't help.

Someone in the Globe forum described Sharks as more of a nightclub and preferred the relaxed atmosphere of Oase which I can understand. The bar service was also better in Oase. Whilst I hate nightclubs I much prefer the atmosphere in Sharks, there is always something going on.

Easiest thing is if you are here for a weekend go to your favourite or the one you think will be your favourite on the Friday and if you aren't satisfied try the other on the Saturday as nothing much is likely to change between the Friday and Saturday.

After midnight, Oase casting is better for me than at Sharks which is less a late night club with many girls going to bed before midnight or around. When I saw her, Rachel was smiling welcoming and not so busy, on a Friday evening.

I decided to try sharks again after racism issue on first visit. Same issue, girls teasing me and calling "Indiano", "Indiano". It was too much so I confronted a group of girls on the back and had a verbal quarrel with them. I abused them with some vulgar words in reply as well. I just spent 3 hours and left the club. Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.

At Sharks right now. Brenda and Caterina are still charging normal market prices, 100 euros for 30 minutes.

However, one woman who says she's from North Macedonia wanted 150 euros for 30 minutes, AND the BJ must be covered, no matter what. Fuck that, some of these women have lost their mind. I don't care how hot or rare you think you are, I'm not paying for a covered blowjob. I remember her from my last time at Sharks but I don't recall he changing the price and services to such an absurd level. Another WG (romanian) I once went with now also wants 150 for 30 minutes and I just laugh.

I'll post a more detailed report later, but I just had to get that off my chest.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922701]I decided to try sharks again after racism issue on first visit. Same issue, girls teasing me and calling "Indiano", "Indiano". It was too much so I confronted a group of girls on the back and had a verbal quarrel with them. I abused them with some vulgar words in reply as well. I just spent 3 hours and left the club. Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I feel you on this. But as hard as it is to do, at the end of the day it's just best to let that stuff roll off your back and keep it moving. If you find that a particular club doesn't work for you, then just don't give them your business ever again. That's how it was for me with Golden Time (it eventually burned down). A lot of these girls are unworldly and uneducated and come from definitely "un-PC" parts of the world. If they're being disrespectful and rude believe me one day they will get theirs (just like Golden Time), because what goes around comes around. I always say that if somebody doesn't want my fists full of euros (or doesn't deserve it), then I will find somebody else who does!

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922701] Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

You were very lucky the bus came since at that time of evening they are every hour on the half hour, 8:29 pm and 9:29 pm to be exact.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2922739]However, one woman who says she's from North Macedonia wanted 150 euros for 30 minutes, AND the BJ must be covered, no matter what. Fuck that, some of these women have lost their mind. I don't care how hot or rare you think you are, I'm not paying for a covered blowjob. I remember her from my last time at Sharks but I don't recall he changing the price and services to such an absurd level. Another WG (romanian) I once went with now also wants 150 for 30 minutes and I just laugh.
[/QUOTE]I've been quoted 100 for half an hour covered with a 50 euro supplement for OWO, never as bad as you. I just walk away. I'm here also this evening, looking forward to the football, all the men supporting Germany and the girls supporting Scotland.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922701]I decided to try sharks again after racism issue on first visit. Same issue, girls teasing me and calling "Indiano", "Indiano". It was too much so I confronted a group of girls on the back and had a verbal quarrel with them. I abused them with some vulgar words in reply as well. I just spent 3 hours and left the club. Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Fully sure, these guys were not sent by the club. Maybe better for you to go in other places, many others around FRA, with Atlanta and Bahama where 50/30 .

Look, we all have sexual preferences and whatever personal stereotypes associated as a result of personal experience or word of mouth. I'm sympathetic to your story but it's very difficult to believe a group of girls that aren't willing to give you the time of day (for money or not) decided to all gang up and taunt you for no other reason than your appearance. This isn't third grade. There are three sides to every story; her side, his side, and the truth. We're only getting one of those here. So I withhold judgement.

I can say that I have always gotten what I wanted there (very picky with appearance, not so picky about performance or specific sex acts) am mixed race, short, slim, light skinned with thinning hair. If I can pull it off with my appearance and impossibly harsh standards of beauty anyone can.

Also, a word to the wise. Never ever ever get into a physical fight in a foreign country. The embassy is not coming to rescue your ass.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922701]I decided to try sharks again after racism issue on first visit. Same issue, girls teasing me and calling "Indiano", "Indiano". It was too much so I confronted a group of girls on the back and had a verbal quarrel with them. I abused them with some vulgar words in reply as well. I just spent 3 hours and left the club. Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922361]After Oase I visited sharks, big and nice club but the girls kept telling me "Indiano" or something similar, I found out that it was Indian in Romanian language. Most of the girls were rude and I felt racism there.

Finally I found Emily, the room was ok but the girls kept calling me Indiano continuously. I felt bad and left the club.

Have someone felt the same way? Is this racist club for Asians?[/QUOTE]I am the same boat, I won't call it racism, but more like lack of respect.

They call me China, when I could be any type Asian. I do not get the same fuck time, chat time, etc. I get treated like a teller at the ATM and move on. Local guest and other Europeans get treated better from the girls I noticed.

The more I think about, the less I want to go back to FFK. Sadly, like the rest of the world, we are an invisible race, and this will never end.

[QUOTE=IndianDick;2922701]I decided to try sharks again after racism issue on first visit. Same issue, girls teasing me and calling "Indiano", "Indiano". It was too much so I confronted a group of girls on the back and had a verbal quarrel with them. I abused them with some vulgar words in reply as well. I just spent 3 hours and left the club. Ii was around 9 PM, I was waiting for the bus at the bus stop near the club, then two guys came to confront me saying "what did you say to my girl" I am not an old guy, I am a muscular guy and we almost had a fight there. In the meantime, the bus came and I left. I don't know who the guys were but I think they were sent by the girls or the club for sure. This is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]The girls were not saying it as a form of disrespect, they are all uneducated. I get called China, and the blacks are called Chocolate.

A lot of this is a culture difference, it would be the same way if I was to visit your country or mine. Words are used differently here.

I was also called China in Austria by the girls too. All this is a lack of cultural difference's.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2922754]You were very lucky the bus came since at that time of evening they are every hour on the half hour, 8:29 pm and 9:29 pm to be exact.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I was lucky or those pimps were lucky but I prefered not to get involved in the fight. Later I thought about it and I saw the guys inside the club as well, they were sitting just nearby the bar on the sofa, exactly below the stairs to rooms upstairs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2922767]Fully sure, these guys were not sent by the club. Maybe better for you to go in other places, many others around FRA, with Atlanta and Bahama where 50/30 .[/QUOTE]Then why would come to confront a stranger and try to start a fight?

Somebody told me Atlanta and Bahama are small and not worth visiting.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2919295]

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2918957]
The true Asian hunters are . . . Simona, . . . Therefore, Escape Artist could readily declare that these girls cater to Asian American preferences and tastes. .[/QUOTE]

The use of several older and fatter former Asian hunters seems out of place as Asian hunting has no role in this assessment as the verbage was Asian preferences. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2920464]

Higher tier optics (7. 5+ but less than 9): [b]Simona, [/b]Ginger, Lori, Melissa, Ariana, Liz, Catalea, Rachele etc.

.[/QUOTE]EA initially denied that Simona fit Asian American preferences and tastes, but later ranked Simona as No. 1 on his higher tier optics list. Is this a case of contradiction using double standards?

Actually, Simona is one of the girls in the club with the most distressed and despondent look. Her miserable face makes her look unattractive. She is very slim and short (probably 150 cm).

And she is very expensive. 150/30 or 250/60 nonnegotiable.

With her appearance and service attitude, I don't know where she gets the confidence to charge such high prices.

Clearly, EscapeArtist is very fond of her even if 150/30. Is it because Simona fit so called Asian American preferences and tastes?

I will share my experience with Simona in the next post.