London

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1717456]LOL! Hey Jojo. If I ever need a facts man I'm coming to you. I love your research and I don't question a word of it. But this isn't the International Tourist Guide. Its the International SEX guide. There isn't a single comment on your excellent response about mongering in London. I'm afraid that's because of all I previously said. Come to London for tourism not sex. It's just not as available in the style of EVERY other UK city. None of which are the Capital.[/QUOTE]I am enjoying reading my posts as well LOL. Read my post again, the last line below, as you seem to have a selective memory.

"This website determines the world city most deserving of the title "capital of the world" by comparing a number of factors including finance, tourism, traffic, IGOs, entertainment, fashion, and more. To be in the running, a city must be recognized as an Alpha++ city" .

They included Entertainment as a factor. No doubt one can include Adult Entertainment in it as well." A well known Tourist guide [URL]inyourpocket.com[/URL] lists Adult Entertainment in its Touristy guide to a city such as Minsk [URL]http://www.inyourpocket.com/belarus/minsk/nightlife/Adult-entertainment[/URL].

Yoo think tourists who come to London don't want to get laid after doing the touristy things? I do touristy things in my mongering destinations (Kiev, Poland Belarus) & on stopovers on the way to the Far East.

As I said earlier, London is a great destination to visit &live in with great Mongering opportunities If you do the right research, also confirmed to you by (Dreams) a very experienced and well traveled monger with many informative and objective posts especially on London. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have found out about the free entry Strip clubs in Shoreditch.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1717521]I am enjoying reading my posts as well LOL. Read my post again, the last line below, as you seem to have a selective memory.

As I said earlier, London is a great destination to visit &live in with great Mongering opportunities If you do the right research, also confirmed to you by (Dreams) a very experienced and well traveled monger with many informative and objective posts especially on London. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have found out about the free entry Strip clubs in Shoreditch.[/QUOTE]There are no GREAT mongering opportunities in London. I've proven it. I've challenged you to come up with comparable venues to those on offer in Manchester. I think I listed 5 or 6. You have quoted one which is closed and another in Shoreditch. Miles from central london. You are proving my point post by post. Great city, shit for mongering. Show me ONE good venue which offers a website with daily girls similar to sandyssuperstars (all top rated on Punterlink). You can't. It doesn't exist. London is either escorts (inconsistent and photoshopped), chinese massage parlours (old ladies serving up a hurried HJ) cheap and dirty walkups in soho or venues miles out of town. Cloud 9 looks the only viable option (which you have never mentioned) and that is not FS.

As I said before. If you were paid to promote London's tourism I'd hire you. This is a website designed and aimed at helping people monger. Look at my posts in Spain and Germany. I post where I've been, what is good and bad, what girls are worth it, etc. I cannot post such details in London because it is the mongering dry hole of the planet. I have challenged others in this forum to come forward. Nobody has done so. Unless you are willing to post a list of venues where I can select from several beauties. Of the kind I have demonstrated are available DAILY in Manchester. Just accept that London stinks on the mongering front and stop trying to be so defensive about a great city which once led the way with ladies of the night but which has fallen far behind Spain, Germany and the rest of the UK. Less arguments and let's get some really positive suggestions on locations. Or otherwise accept they don't exist. Which is it? I eagerly await your list but suspect the silence will now be deafening.

Hi PFI,

You got from me the list for the massage parlors in London, But you told us few weeks ago, not in the center. So you didn't try them.

If you are after incall parlors similar to [URL]http://www.sandyssuperstars.com/[/URL] in Manchester, then you need to read my previous posts on the 2 that I use which are in central London & another a short tube ride to west London.

Open from 11 am to 8 pm. . Their sites are in my posts. This week they have a total of 6 /7 girls working each day.

Their names & photos are clearly shown.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1717595] let's get some really positive suggestions on locations. Or otherwise accept they don't exist. Which is it? I eagerly await your list but suspect the silence will now be deafening.[/QUOTE]Hi PFI,

LOL. You managed to confuse me as It took me a while to figure out why reading my posts have that effect on You " Oh I read them and weeped. " Weeped? Sorry 4 that whatever you meant.

We are here because International Sex Guide is The Bible 4 International Mongering and as it happens I enjoy posting & reading reports on different destinations on my radar. But its a 2 way traffic and London thread is no exception, But nothing beats Foot Mongering + Research, But what I won't do is spoon feed info to anyone. Anyway you say, you are in London every week, so it should be a piece of cake for you and you can eat it as well, LOL.

I am not looking for any trade off of my pointers, links, tips to you on Mongering in London (For what it's worth) , as I think I know what I want to know about mongering in Germany & Spain your mongering destinations, been there, done that Tourism with Mongering there. Mongering in Manchester does not appeal to me at all.

Stay calm & happy mongering.

[quote=PayForIt;1717595 There are no GREAT mongering opportunities in London. I have challenged others in this forum to come forward. Nobody has done so.

Cloud 9 looks the only viable option (which you have never mentioned)...[/quote]Very good point about Cloud 9 escorts. Now I tell you 4 Why? If you check the nationalities of the girls you will see they have a total of 12 Japanese / Korean girls on there, In fact the majority of their girls. A really awsome choice.

As it happens my favorite oriental girls are Japanese / Korean, But from experience in London & reading UK sites its like looking for Rocking Horse Shit trying to nail a genuine Japanese girl in London. Korean girls are a Dime a Dozen in Houston where I monger with them.

But you could be lucky and find out its not a lot of Hot Air.

Here is your chance to take one for the London team as you are in London nearly every week as you said.

Good Luck and don't forget to post on your Japanese girl experience.

This is for you guys that are thinking of trying to find decent girls / sex in massage parlours in London. You have less than a 5% chance of it happening. All the average quality girls, especially the EE girls will be with agencies. The top EE and British girls will be with the upmarket agencies. Some success can be had via adultwork but it's hit and miss. If you want high girls that are almost certainly going to give you a great time you are going to have to pay premium rates. Feel free to ask if you have any questions or PM me. I can recommend if required and it's allowed on the Forum, if not PM me and ask.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1717768]Hi PFI,

LOL. You managed to confuse me as It took me a while to figure out why reading my posts have that effect on You " Oh I read them and weeped. " Weeped? Sorry 4 that whatever you meant.

We are here because International Sex Guide is The Bible 4 International Mongering and as it happens I enjoy posting & reading reports on different destinations on my radar. But its a 2 way traffic and London thread is no exception, But nothing beats Foot Mongering + Research, But what I won't do is spoon feed info to anyone. Anyway you say, you are in London every week, so it should be a piece of cake for you and you can eat it as well, LOL.

I am not looking for any trade off of my pointers, links, tips to you on Mongering in London (For what it's worth) , as I think I know what I want to know about mongering in Germany & Spain your mongering destinations, been there, done that Tourism with Mongering there. Mongering in Manchester does not appeal to me at all.

Stay calm & happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Hey Jojo. Weeped wasn't intended as a criticism so sorry if you took it that way. My disappointment was only that I had hoped an experienced London poster could post something which said to me - "you have missed something here. Here are some great venues with good selections in central london. " I didn't get that from your posts. I got the impression that there are a couple of venues near Marble Arch but you couldn't give details for fear of exposing them to police raid. Which was something I also found disappointing (weeped! As for taking tubes out to Shoreditch etc not sure that's really what I want to do. I mentioned Cloud 9 because at least it seems to give options of in and outcall but I agree it is mainly Asian. Not particularly my first choice though I've enjoyed the company of some great Asian ladies. I didn't ask anyone (you included) to "spoon feed" me. The forum is about information sharing and I have posted some very long and detailed posts on venues in Germany and Spain to give others the benefit of my personal experiences. Appreciating, as I do, the help I've had from others who have done the same. So I'm not a taker and not a giver! Strictly in the ISG sense of course! Perhaps you might be willing to PM me the details of the establishments you say you do use. To help. Which I would greatly appreciate but fear not if you would prefer not to. I remain in the dark! I'm in London every week and remain very disenchanted on the options in London. Which I've set out previously. I don't think it is asking too much that in a great city like London there are a few places in the centre where you can walk in, get a nice beer, sit with a few girls and make a selection. I can only assume that the police raid threat you have posted upon, which is clearly real and had happened, has caused the explosion of agencies and girls using AWs.

The latest post from Abox also seems to confirm my previously expressed concern / disappointment. That in Central London girls tend to sign up to agencies rather than take their chances in brothels / MPs. I think we've done this to death now! As you say. Happy mongering. Wherever that may be. And trust me. You might just like it in Manchester! Give it a shot. There are a lot of choices!

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1717791]Very good point about Cloud 9 escorts. Now I tell you 4 Why? If you check the nationalities of the girls you will see they have a total of 12 Japanese / Korean girls on there, In fact the majority of their girls. A really awsome choice.

As it happens my favorite oriental girls are Japanese / Korean, But from experience in London & reading UK sites its like looking for Rocking Horse Shit trying to nail a genuine Japanese girl in London. Korean girls are a Dime a Dozen in Houston where I monger with them.

But you could be lucky and find out its not a lot of Hot Air.

Here is your chance to take one for the London team as you are in London nearly every week as you said.

Good Luck and don't forget to post on your Japanese girl experience.[/QUOTE]I, for one, am highly suspicious based on the photos, but who knows. Maybe someone will TOFTT and report back.

I must admit I rarely check this forum, only when I'm doing a bit of advance groundwork for a trip over, to see if there are any new options. But generally I'm well-versed enough in the London scene that I don't ever find myself checking it while I'm in town. The recent discussions about London good or bad are amusing to me. It all boils down to your expectations, preferences, and willingness to adapt to your surroundings. For me, London is hands-down one of my favorite destinations anywhere in the world, despite not having any pick-up bars (which are my favorite "home field" from which to punt). It seems the recent displeasure expressed revolves around the fact that there are no massage parlours like some other places in the UK, but to those guys I suggest you get out of your comfort zone gents. There is a phenomenal escort scene, where you can get any flavor of lady you want, incall or outcall, 24 hours per day! Fat, thin, tall, short, black, white, Asian, South American, E. European, 100% British, ladyboy, two girls, ladyboy + girl, anal, PSE, GFE, bareback / creampie, BDSM, hardsports, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url], dinner dates, quickies, MILFs, sex parties, face-fucking, facials, swallows, spitting, gagging, . Hell. I'm running out of ideas, but if you can think of it, you can find at least several girls in London who are down for it and probably available on short notice.

Is it cheap? No, it's not. But to say it's not a great mongering destination is really being quite narrow-minded. As the Stones sang: "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you might find, you get what you NEED."

And boy oh boy did I get what I needed! I had 11 punts, 10 different girls (one repeat with an old favorite I've known for years), ranging from Asian outcall to Russian MILF (AW), to several lovely English girls (AW and Bijoux Escorts), and a beautiful French Carribean ebony girl for good measure. My only REAL regret was not squeezing in a few more. There were a couple minor regrets due to poor research / taking a chance on my part with girls I shouldn't have, but it's easy to send them home with regrets and 20 quid for cab fare. Actually I only had to do that twice, once because she was a fat troll completely out of keeping with her AW photos, and another time just for bad attitude with a girl who asked for payment immediately upon entering my room (that wasn't the beginning or end of her attitude, and I knew I made the right decision in calling it off when she had the audacity to ask me for 40 cab fare instead of the 20 I handed her).

Anyway, as you can tell, I love the London scene, even though it's not my favorite kind of pick-up punting. But I'm able to adapt to the scene and always have a wonderful visit. Hope to be back very soon, in fact as I still have a list of ladies I didn't get to see!

Happy hunting and punting, gents.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1718185]I, for one, am highly suspicious based on the photos, but who knows. Maybe someone will TOFTT and report back.[/QUOTE]Young China Doll (Amy) on their site here [URL]http://www.londonnudemassage.com/erotic/amy[/URL].

Amy's first photos are stock internet pictures here aka Mao Xiaotong ([URL]http://www.freedownloadlisting.com/tag/mao-xiaotong[/URL]) Chairman Mao's great grand daughter?

My constant researching in pursuit of my main hobby took me on a tour scouting reviews on Cloud 9 and managed to find the following. For obvious reasons can't post the link. But its from trusted sources.

First Review.

" Well, I tried out Cloud 9 tonight".

I chose a Korean girl named Zoe, who had extensive experience in Tantric Massage, according to her profile.

Curiously, the flat (near Queensway Tube) was the same one I had been to last year to see a Japanese escort from a different massage agency.

The girl who answered the door said her name was Zoe, but she didn't look like the photos, admitted to only being in the UK for two days and had no idea what "tantric massage" was.

It's a total sham; another case of be&S. To top it off, when I phoned the agency, the woman shouted "I know who you are; you're a window shopper and you do this all the time. I have your number in my records. ".

TO BE AVOIDED".

Second Review.

" I fell for Cloud9 on one of my first bookings in January and it was clearly a bait & switch:

The girl advertised was listed as 5'4" but the one who opened the in-call door was only vaguely similar-looking and stood about 4'10"!

She was however cute and endearingly nervous and I was raring to go so I didn't walk. But I should have, as apart from a nice assisted shower before & after she was an inanimate eyes-closed sack of potatoes. I ended-up needing a HJ to finish which was still really poor.

Booked an hour and was out of there in 40 minutes. Nearly put me off the whole 'hobby' - until my faith was somewhat restored when I found online reviews and resources likeXXXX".

Third Review, re Japanese advertised as Nationality on Cloud 9 Site.

" think that the girls I have mentioned are Chinese or from somewhere that speaks mandarin because I definitely heard them talking in mandarin!

I've just taken a look at their website and I can see some new girls on there. Daisy (blonde Romanian) looks worth a visit! I'll report back when I get a chance.

I would say that the pics of Candy are not quite representative but they do look like her. Candy is not quite as slim in the flesh, she's more curvy".

And in the interest of Balance, Here is another way of looking at Cloud 9.

Fourth Review.

" I think only 2 girls on any evening. I've only ever been offered a choice of 2.

If you get the big bedroom at the end then it's got the ensuite so no risk of bumping into another punter. I've been in one of the other rooms and had to use the separate shower room.

I've been a few times and not seen another punter. The girls are normally careful at moving you between room and shower and exit!

I wouldn't say it's great, but can easily get last min booking if you cock needs itching and you've been poor at planning!

All Credit is due to the mongers who took the plunge & posted back on their experiences. All I had to do was Research, Read, and copy&paste on here.

As for a HOT JAPANESE GIRL working in LONDON (. LOL) here is one BOBO [URL]http://www.playful-asianescorts.co.uk/gallery/bobo/62.[/URL].

What a BOBO? Back in Japan she is known as the Japanese celebrity model Mai Nishida". [URL]http://www.egotastic.com/2013/03/mai-nishida-is-back-to-bring-eastern-sextastic-fantasy-out-west/mai-nishida-japanese-celebrity-modeling-photos-23/[/URL].

I guess only Mongering Newbies & Bimbos would fall for all the scams of the kind shown on Cloud 9 Japanesey be&S.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1718185]I, for one, am highly suspicious based on the photos, but who knows. Maybe someone will TOFTT and report back.[/QUOTE]Young China Doll (Amy) on their site here [URL]http://www.londonnudemassage.com/erotic/amy[/URL].

Amy's first photos are stock internet pictures here aka Mao Xiaotong ([URL]http://www.freedownloadlisting.com/tag/mao-xiaotong[/URL]) Chairman Mao's great grand daughter?

My constant researching in pursuit of my main hobby took me on a tour scouting reviews on Cloud 9 and managed to find the following. For obvious reasons can't post the link. But its from trusted sources.

First Review.

" Well, I tried out Cloud 9 tonight".

I chose a Korean girl named Zoe, who had extensive experience in Tantric Massage, according to her profile.

Curiously, the flat (near Queensway Tube) was the same one I had been to last year to see a Japanese escort from a different massage agency.

The girl who answered the door said her name was Zoe, but she didn't look like the photos, admitted to only being in the UK for two days and had no idea what "tantric massage" was.

It's a total sham; another case of be&S. To top it off, when I phoned the agency, the woman shouted "I know who you are; you're a window shopper and you do this all the time. I have your number in my records. ".

TO BE AVOIDED".

Second Review.

" I fell for Cloud9 on one of my first bookings in January and it was clearly a bait & switch:

The girl advertised was listed as 5'4" but the one who opened the in-call door was only vaguely similar-looking and stood about 4'10"!

She was however cute and endearingly nervous and I was raring to go so I didn't walk. But I should have, as apart from a nice assisted shower before & after she was an inanimate eyes-closed sack of potatoes. I ended-up needing a HJ to finish which was still really poor.

Booked an hour and was out of there in 40 minutes. Nearly put me off the whole 'hobby' - until my faith was somewhat restored when I found online reviews and resources likeXXXX".

Third Review, re Japanese advertised as Nationality on Cloud 9 Site.

" think that the girls I have mentioned are Chinese or from somewhere that speaks mandarin because I definitely heard them talking in mandarin!

I've just taken a look at their website and I can see some new girls on there. Daisy (blonde Romanian) looks worth a visit! I'll report back when I get a chance.

I would say that the pics of Candy are not quite representative but they do look like her. Candy is not quite as slim in the flesh, she's more curvy".

And in the interest of Balance, Here is another way of looking at Cloud 9.

Fourth Review.

" I think only 2 girls on any evening. I've only ever been offered a choice of 2.

If you get the big bedroom at the end then it's got the ensuite so no risk of bumping into another punter. I've been in one of the other rooms and had to use the separate shower room.

I've been a few times and not seen another punter. The girls are normally careful at moving you between room and shower and exit!

I wouldn't say it's great, but can easily get last min booking if you cock needs itching and you've been poor at planning!

All Credit is due to the mongers who took the plunge & posted back on their experiences. All I had to do was Research, Read, and copy&paste on here.

As for a HOT JAPANESE GIRL working in LONDON (. LOL) here is one BOBO [URL]http://www.playful-asianescorts.co.uk/gallery/bobo/62.[/URL].

What a BOBO? Back in Japan she is known as the Japanese celebrity model Mai Nishida". [URL]http://www.egotastic.com/2013/03/mai-nishida-is-back-to-bring-eastern-sextastic-fantasy-out-west/mai-nishida-japanese-celebrity-modeling-photos-23/[/URL].

I guess only Mongering Newbies & Bimbos would fall for all the scams of the kind shown on Cloud 9 Japanesey be&S.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Adindas;1713917]I agree with you about the party in the UK. I party in the UK a few times a month but now my party has gradually moved to Germany. It is not that difficult to find a return ticket from the UK for 70 to many destinations in Germany where you could find the good parties. In Germany people could party for eleven hours for EUR80- EUR100 compare it to what you will need to pay for party like this in the UK.

But for in-call visit to prossies, in my opinion London is still very competitive. If you want to venture (take a risk of getting a bad punt) you could easily find the WGs with the same quality that you will find in FKK in Germany with relatively almost the same rate. It has been reported in many positive reviews in another forum where you could find a WGs with 40 - 50 half hourly rate.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with an experienced monger & informative poster such as Adindas on what a monger could get for his £ $ or euros on the party scene (London v other options in Germany), But as I work & live in London for most months of the year, I have to do with what's available in London. Work relocation not mongering trips brought me to London and found out about the great mongering opportunities in London and I love it, although I wasn't short of great lays in my hometown. But what is lacking there the variety of London.

Dreams summed it up here.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1717347]I have been living here since 30+ years, and explored the world as well. Banged more than 1000 women in more than 30 countries. London remains for those who know one of the best places for mongering, with incredible variable choice. Of course, no comparison with German FKKs or Bangkok, but in the Western world far better than Paris, Rome, let alone all Nordic cities and the US.

In London: Soho walk-ups for 20 , some gems to be found there; anything you fancy on adultwork (want a pregnant Asian girl?: you'll find her); parties (All you can f. In 2 hours); Top level escorts; Cheap HJs in Chinese backrooms; High level sophisticated MPs etc. Cheap strip clubs with gorgeous girls spreading it (FYEO), expensive lap dance clubs for rich corporate people etc.

Where else in the West?[/QUOTE]Anything I fancy is on Adultwork or parlors in London with their own sites showing their schedule for the week with real photos some photoshopping and I banged many stunners there for £60/70 1/2 hour. Many girls start there and go on to other agencies charging £200 /£300 an hour. A hefty% goes to pimps or agency owners. In a similar way the height $$$ charged by girls working through escort agencies in the US.

Bored with mongering in London and fancy a bit of EE at their sources, all I have to do being a cheap skate when it comes to flights is to hop on a plane and explore towns there not on the tourist trail and fresh young talent, semi pros and sponsoring financially embarrassed students.

But anyone who gets tired of London, is tired of Life.

Tired of London, Tired of life. One thing a day to do in London [URL]http://www.tiredoflondontiredoflife.com/.[/URL].

Research reveals the set up there offers Full Service on the menu as the going price for FS is £150 an hour booked through an agency.

Confirmed here by a reviewer "I've used Cloud 9. They operate from a basement flat on Inverness terrace.

From my visits, the quoted price is just for body2 body massage and HR.

OW is offered. I think I paid £40.

FS is also offered but I think it was £70".

Few months ago I wanted to try a curvy Oriental girl and located an escort by the name Of Mellon on the site of one of the Oriental Agencies in London.

Found one who looked very attractive by the name of Mellon with blonde hair looking hot in the photos. . Then she disappeared and few weeks searches and I located her working in Glascow.

Long story short, booked her direct when she came down to London and went for the 1/2 hour option of £80 .

Photos are of her. But I just couldn't pop with her, hint of garlic smell put me off and she wouldn't take off her stockings. I just couldn't stick in her front hole, a hole was there. Made me later wonder whether she was a post op with a reconstructed Vagina?

Her location was a small basement apartment on Inverness Terrace the same road of Cloud9.

Any guys here mongered with Rose aka Mellon, before?

Please take a look at her photos here and tell me what do you think? I have to say the photos are real and she had very soft skin, but something in the back of my mind tells me she could be a post op.

[URL]http://www.escort-scotland.com/cf7ed063b6445/CurvyAsianRose/scottish-[/URL]

She is on here as well [URL]http://yourlovers.co.uk/girls-and-escorts/scotland-region/glasgow/rose-curvy-asian-38ee-touring-in-glasgow-city-centre.htm.[/URL].

I live in London as well, I don't consider it particularly what it is being referred to as 'mongering destination' as such but rather 'monger friendly'. In this country prostitution is legal and there exist many options. That's not to say that I would travel many miles to get here for that, there are certainly better alternatives.

Had my first experience of mongering here and have to say it was really good. I did met a wonderful lady through a meetup which eventually ended up dating her 2 times over the next 2 weeks. She is a blonde, tall and sexy girl who loves to party. A complete party freak after 2 dates we had the best night of our life which I could have asked for. I would say if you can invest time in a girl over here its really not so hard to catch them that too for free.