Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2732467]You need to stay home. You spend 3 days complaining that men need to be nicer to other men and then you take a swing at one of the nicer men on ISG because he occasionally treats a few girls who he sees several times each year?

If you can afford to travel to a foreign country for the purpose of fucking, you can afford to treat people right.[/QUOTE]Hey JjBee, thanks for the compliment señor.

I know that you enjoy a good debate lol, however, I refrain from responding to clueless guys. This particular guy is on Kindergarten level, while though I'm a simple, normal guy, I have travelled the world, and have spent more than 20 years in S America, and speak fluent spanish and portuguese.

IMO, there is nothing wrong with helping out good people, deserving people, especially when you expect nothing in return.

Safe travels mi amigo. I'm in Santiago, Chile at the moment, having a cafe con leche, awaiting a nice Chilean muchacha who I met on my last visit here.

If we are really going with, "this guy probably doesn't get any sex at all hur hur hurr" argument.

ID say the crabs in a barrel thing is kinda hopeless. I'm relatively young I use to work security at a high end strip club.

With like 8,9 10 light skinned women that woukd run about a grand a night (for the best ones) . I mean I know this sounds like posturing but it's not.

If the whole, (OMG this guy can't get seggs) argument is what you want to play man I give up.

Most men under the age of 35 don't have thier life together with resources to travel out of the country consistently largely because they have obligations and or chikdren and or wives at home. I have none of those. But I'm tottaly locked in pussy prison and not a young man trying to explore my options outside of my past experiences.

Ok brah.

The primer websites coming up with Lazy person's guide to safety in Medellin are down from cloudfare for a variety of possible factors.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2732471]If you overpay [B]knowing the market[/B] you are making a choice and such is your right. [/QUOTE]Of course it's their "right. " And others have a right to call them out while informing them against their fantasies how they are actually perceived by the girls. This likely won't benefit them but may benefit many in the audience who decide not to take the same path.

Does it have a negative effect on others? This has been beaten to death. The short answer is [B]no[/B]. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Villainy;2732471]The short answer is of course yes, as it is simply ludicrous to argue that the buying behavior of consumers in a particular market has no effect on other consumers. That said, there's a number of different markets in Medellin. For example consumer behavior in Centro will have little to no effect on the Facebook market. And if one fool is throwing money at a handful of street girls this likely will have limited effect on that market, as it just makes certain girls unavailable while he is supporting them. But throw a bunch of like fools in the same market and there's liable to be noticeable difference.

Regarding Facebook, lets take for example the many suckers that "sponsor" or send girls money between trips or give them new IPhones they can sell. There's a lot of these, and they are largely the reason why many of the hotter girls regularly go off the radar for days and weeks at a time. This is quite common and many have multiple sponsors while a sucker thinks he has a girlfriend. As stated in an earlier post, they are only paying for these girls to take days off as your typical Latin hooker won't work unless they need money. It's a lifestyle and poverty is generational. But the supply is shrunk while many have no incentive to work, and especially that of the hotter girls which "effects others," both in the way of less availability and pricing to some degree, though the former is the larger issue. That said, you can always get a third string FB girl to come over. That doesn't interest me, but others have been effected by the behavior of other consumers, whether informed or uninformed. This is simply Captain Obvious moment and fundamental truth one should grasp in grade school.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am3FjwsNqXc[/URL]

As to this getting "beat to death," it shouldn't be. The reason it is though is because a big nerve is struck with suckers when called out, and, given all the needless money they have blown they will fight to the death to defend themselves, brag about how rich they are comparing themselves to Bill Gates (yawns) when we all know that the truly wealthy aren't in Medellin chasing hookers in the scenes we frequent. Or as we so often hear, "it doesn't matter how much I spend as long as I have a good time," but they are still suckers that the girls laugh at behind their backs and we are free to critique them. It probably won't help them but will help many who might be tempted to go down the same path.

[QUOTE=KrunkMan4;2732546]If we are really going with, "this guy probably doesn't get any sex at all hur hur hurr" argument.

ID say the crabs in a barrel thing is kinda hopeless. I'm relatively young I use to work security at a high end strip club.

With like 8,9 10 light skinned women that woukd run about a grand a night (for the best ones) . I mean I know this sounds like posturing but it's not.

If the whole, (OMG this guy can't get seggs) argument is what you want to play man I give up.

Most men under the age of 35 don't have thier life together with resources to travel out of the country consistently largely because they have obligations and or chikdren and or wives at home. I have none of those. But I'm tottaly locked in pussy prison and not a young man trying to explore my options outside of my past experiences.

Ok brah.[/QUOTE]I don't understand your crabs in a barrel argument. All you need to do is fly to Medellin, take bus / taxi to Nutibarra, book room, and walk out front door, the end.

[QUOTE=KrunkMan4;2732546]If we are really going with, "this guy probably doesn't get any sex at all hur hur hurr" argument.

ID say the crabs in a barrel thing is kinda hopeless. I'm relatively young I use to work security at a high end strip club.

With like 8,9 10 light skinned women that woukd run about a grand a night (for the best ones) . I mean I know this sounds like posturing but it's not.

If the whole, (OMG this guy can't get seggs) argument is what you want to play man I give up.

Most men under the age of 35 don't have thier life together with resources to travel out of the country consistently largely because they have obligations and or chikdren and or wives at home. I have none of those. But I'm tottaly locked in pussy prison and not a young man trying to explore my options outside of my past experiences..[/QUOTE]You are obnoxious, illiterate, incomprehensible, and probably engage in felching.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2732585]it is simply ludicrous to argue that the buying behavior of consumers in a particular market has no effect on other consumers. [/QUOTE]And anyone who does not believe this probably did not watch Costa Rica over the last 25 years.

[QUOTE=KrunkMan4;2732543]I am a noob obviously, my whole point with the crabs in a barrel thing is to not treat noobs like shit. Whatever man, like I don't even know where to find the Lazy Mans Guide to Stay Safe in Medellin, even pointing there would have been helpful but instead we have some 55 year old probably non minority with more or less the benefit of wealth generation through culturally propagated advantages, and compound interest crying about how the noobs just need to know everything automatically, in relation to the cpt save a hoe business, I'm not a noob, some will say "treating a woman right" but imagine if you fall on hard times and your bank account suffers. It may be the case of throwing around money like daddy warbucks you have these girls return the fzvor and help you out in your time of need but lets be honest. The probability if that is slim to none. Are you going to say the girl didn't "treat you right" in that instance. Come on man. If you are confident your what I presume to be wealth will last forever that's fine, but we call it cpt save a hoe for the precise reason that you aren't fucking jesus christ dude, you are exchanging your wealth for these women's beauty and youth at a much lower cost than in the US where the exact same thing is done.[/QUOTE]Are you ok? Did you stop to consider that it's not noobs that get treated like shit. It's just you? In an effort to turn this into a productive post for any noobs. Just read the fourm. It is literally the lazy man's guide. Both this one and Bogota. All the advice you need is there. Take your first trip and be careful. Then go from there. Don't be or think like an entitled asshole and you will be fine. It could not be spelled out more clearer. That's it. I'm 37. Not wealthy. Don't pretend to be. Average shape and average looking. I like and respect Latinas. I banged 30+ girls last trip for not a ton of money. And I approve this message. And I can mostly spell and properly form sentences that are not angry.

Being nice gets you a long way. I got sick my last trip. I had two women offering to go to the hospital with me, cook for me, and take care of me. It cost me nothing extra other than being a normal human being and I never asked. And I would do the same for them. Not that it matters because everyone should do what feels right. But with one of them no phones and no money has ever exchanged hands other than dinner and event tickets.

One should ask how many males or females do you know that would do that? In Colombia or back home? Hopefully many. If not, one should reflect. If you want transactional sex it's as easy as showing up with some basic fourm reading. If you want more. Read the fourm harder and participate. Or not and find your own way.

BTW. When you participate people interact positivity with you. And then you can meet up with them and exchange knowledge. Or just show up and have some sex. It's not like anyone is entitled to anything.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2732467]Physically, assuming you are picking the right girls, you have someone with a vested interest in your continued health and safety.[/QUOTE]If most of us had a knack for picking the right girls we would not be on ISG to begin with. I don't know what perspective you are thinking from, but many third world folks believe they can get more golden eggs or golden eggs faster, if the goose that is laying them is dead.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2732631]If you want transactional sex it's as easy as showing up with some basic fourm reading. If you want more. Read the fourm harder and participate. [/QUOTE]It's not prom night. You aren't falling in love. You'll learn nothing about any of that here except in the world of make believe. P4P is a transaction, and anything beyond that typicallly is about fantasies you've created in your head that something more is going on.

If anyone wants GFE bullet points, IE. No condom, DFK, etc. These can be negotiated for in advance. If you want them to hang out, dinner, movie so you can feel like you have a date someone other than a hooker, yes, some will agree but you'll be charged for their services.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2732602]I don't understand your crabs in a barrel argument. All you need to do is fly to Medellin, take bus / taxi to Nutibarra, book room, and walk out front door, the end.[/QUOTE]Nutibarra? Don't forget your mouse traps. LOL.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2732631]I had two women offering to go to the hospital with me, cook for me, and take care of me. It cost me nothing extra other than being a normal human being and I never asked. And I would do the same for them. Not that it matters because everyone should do what feels right. [/QUOTE]More than once I have gotten very sick in MDE, the worst episode was pre-Covid, my first trip when I assumed I was getting exposed to some new, foreign (literally) virus that knocked me on my ass like nothing I ever experienced before in my life.

The way the chicas lined up to care for me, feed me, bathe me, change my linens, bring me medicine, all without being asked or paid was one of the first times I knew I found a very special place. And they kept wanting to take me to the hospital, but I somehow managed to avoid it.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2732310] I am sure that the girl Bill Gates will select will not be your typical street girl in El Centro.[/QUOTE]Bill Gates isn't going to Medellin to chase hookers, nor is any other billionaire. Even if he did there's still no point in him paying many times the going rate. That's the point and why your analogy failed.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2732310]My point is do what you want to do and don't worry about what others say. It's your money.[/QUOTE]Everyone already knows it's their money and they are free to spend it how they wish. But if you spend like a fool and come here telling us about it expect critiques from the community for the good of others who may be tempted to do the same. "A fool and his money are soon parted." And they usually care a lot about what others think as they'll spend so much time defending themselves. That's why these discussions take forever to wind down.

[QUOTE=KrunkMan4;2732546]I give up. Ok brah.[/QUOTE]And will you please go away? You need to stay home, stay away, get a personality transplant, then return, try again and start over. I am not sure what your realistic timeframe might be on this but based on how you progressed from bad to worse, I'm going to say on the long side of the time interval. Perhaps sometime in the 2030's, after you've had some more time to ripen or "mature".

Another very viable and probably your best option is simply to go into total lurker mode. That way you can still learn a lot, read a lot, and then we don't have to suffer as much. Thanks for playing, see ya wouldn't want to be ya, and all that jazz.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2732609]You are obnoxious, illiterate, incomprehensible, and probably engage in felching.[/QUOTE]The illiterate aspect being that I am on my ipad on standby 99% of the time where spell check does not impose itself I understand. I'm not here to impress an amolgamation of 55 year old plus old non minorities with my reading comprehension. I was here for actual palpable actionable knowledge.