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SA has a feature to check history. Last logged in from country.

If a girl location says BCN but she has logged in from France or Italy, I am ok.

But, if she has logged in from US, I usually scratch and move on.

Unless I have good reasons to believe she is traveling.

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2826637]Hahah that's a real bummer but a great story. Seems like the consensus is too risky and hard to pull off. Another redish flag is her profile lists her location in the US, but profile text says she's in a European city. Profile doesn't seem like a scam and I'd have to imagine there's easier scams than going after guys who want to meet in Europe. I think it's more likely the meet is like Elvis' though, expensive and not worth it. I guess there's always an angle on seeking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2826785] I also had a good experience in Paris where the girl came to meet me in Paris and then stayed over. My travel plans are unfortunately already set with hotels but it would be easy to add a flight.[/QUOTE]Awesome. Definitely try escalating with someone like the Paris girl and try a girl #2/#3. If Paris girl is great a second time / overnight /24 hrs after girls #2/#3, definitely try the travel. Also, it doesn't have to be the whole trip. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

F.

[QUOTE=Foolish;2826802]Awesome. Definitely try escalating with someone like the Paris girl and try a girl #2/#3. If Paris girl is great a second time / overnight /24 hrs after girls #2/#3, definitely try the travel. Also, it doesn't have to be the whole trip. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

F.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately she hasn't kept in touch on what's app and deleted her sa. The girl from bcn last time has also gone silent. The paris one was an interesting experience. She told me she was a sw when we met but it was more of a seeking vibe than a pro vibe.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2826793]SA has a feature to check history. Last logged in from country.

If a girl location says BCN but she has logged in from France or Italy, I am ok.

But, if she has logged in from US, I usually scratch and move on.

Unless I have good reasons to believe she is traveling.[/QUOTE]Her location is listed as CA but says she's in spain. Log in shows Spain as well. We were discussing meeting in another city in spain.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2826777]This is why I believe people must definitely engage in pre-marital sex before tying the knot. You need to be sure that you're sexually compatible as well as compatible in other important ways as well. Forget about all of the morality bullshit and keep it practical and for real! You already have only a 50/50 chance of the marriage succeeding. Don't make the odds worse by not being sure you're sexually compatible [B]before[/B] you say, "I do". So, here's to pre-marital sex! Ha![/QUOTE]Yeah, I had a friend who caught the Christian bug about no premarital sex after fucking everything that walked. His woman had slept around too but they decided for some reason not to have sex before marriage. So they are married and go at it, and I ask him how it was, and he said, "Well, we are still trying to get to know each other. " So of course that meant it was horrible. Needless to say, that marriage fell apart.

I also have a friend who I introduced to SA and even set him up with a hottie I thought he would like. Thing is he focuses totally one one girl. I do not think he gets that for every keeper I have found I had to go on so many crummy dates like the one I described. On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

So if the goal is to find a keeper, which was always my goal, you fuck them as soon as you can because if they are lousy in the sack, you can move on from them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2826530]And GD, you reminded me of a gal I flew into San Antonio. She was a medical student and personal trainer. She was tall, thin, smart, ambitious, and had a sexy CEO type voice. She was going to cure cancer and obesity because one was not enough. She was such a smart energetic person I was thinking maybe she could. So we are walking around the riverwalk, and there are sparks of love in the air. For real.

It is time to go to the hotel, and she wanted a lot at the time for our day but I thought it was worth it. Well, that changed.

When I went to kiss her, she was like, "No, I don't do that. " Then she put two condoms on me (safer that way) and gave me a BJ where I could hardly feel anything and when we went to the main event, she went into trainer mode. I am fucking her from behind and she is like, "Yes, you can do it, 1,2,3,4, keep going. " I have had worse sex, but I do not think I have been more disappointed with the sex ever in my life.

If she was as good in bed as she was outside of it, I may have married her.[/QUOTE]Great story, I LOLed, but sorry for the bad experience.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2826828]On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

[/QUOTE]This sounds about right. When I was very active on SA for about 20 months, I probably met at least 100 gals in person, had relations with two dozen of them, and repeated with most of those that I had relations with.

Yeah London is pricey. Like you I've seen the quality go down recently and I've stopped looking in London. My experience was that girls were mostly asking 400-600 GBP per meet but they'd normally accept 400 when I came back with my offer. In fact one girl didn't ask for anything and she was the best looking girl I've met there (a solid 9/10,28 yo). Sadly she ghosted after a few meets and I haven't found anyone as good since. I just got lucky I suppose. I think what they ask for will depend partly on whether or not they like you, for some it's not a job but rather 'dating up' as the site itself talks of. So if they find you attractive and if you're not too old then their requirements on the financial front come down a bit. But Europe offers better value I think, though there're a lot less options. You can add up all the Seeking girls in France, Spain, Italy and Germany and London would still give more options!

[QUOTE=YoungWolf994;2825983]Long time lurker so thought I'd make an account and write a mini-report of the SA scene in London.

It seems that price has gone up lately and quality down compared to what I've been reading in this thread. Most girls I seek are asking for 500 ppm+ and not willing to budge. If I try to negotiate down, most of them simply block you. Here are some of my latest scores:

24, English, IG gym girl type 8/10. Great pair of naturals. She works an office job in a small town outside of London. Likes money and sex and she's a great girl to be around, very down to earth. She is very submissive and likes to please. She told me she likes to suck cock and she is very good at it. She gets wet very fast and it only took me a few pumps for her to reach orgasm. She likes being chocked and called a good girl. In fact, she was always asking me to call her a good girl. She is now my regular. I give her 500 per meet.

22, English rose, University student 8/10. Petite, blonde blue eyed girl. Very pretty face, little PAWG thing going on as well. Quite innocent but been in the game for a while. She's a nice girl to be around. The best moment is when her mascara runs down her face while sucking cock. She takes it deep and is very determined. Beautiful and pink pussy and it tastes great when doing RO. She is my semi regular now. I give her 500 per meet.

22, French University student 9/10. Petite, brunette and very pretty face. Great pair of naturals and tight body. She is fun to be around, we have lots in common and she likes to dress up for me. Sex is great and passionate. I gave her 500 per meet. She's now back to France for the summer break.

22, English University girl. Quite plain looking girl, your average English girl 7/10 but good body. She makes up for it in bed though. Absolute anal * and just wants to please you and likes taking cock in all of her holes. I gave her 350 per meet. Not seeing her at the moment.

This is my first year on Seeking and I'm still trying to learn how to do better at it. London has a great scene, but it's pricy compared to other countries. I don't mind paying as long as I meet an 8/10 and above. Life is short and I don't want mediocre sex with average looking women, as bad as that sounds. I have harvested over 30 phone numbers and I'm going to go through the best of them this summer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2826828]

I also have a friend who I introduced to SA and even set him up with a hottie I thought he would like. Thing is he focuses totally one one girl. I do not think he gets that for every keeper I have found I had to go on so many crummy dates like the one I described. On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

So if the goal is to find a keeper, which was always my goal, you fuck them as soon as you can because if they are lousy in the sack, you can move on from them.[/QUOTE]I have been using SA for 3 years now, and have found 5 keepers / GF material, 1 in CDMX, 1 in Rio, 2 in MDE and 1 in Bogota. Basically, about 2 keepers per year. I never counted how many dates I have been on, but what I learned is that weeding them out prior to meeting is key. I don't want to be spending my time on the girls that are not up to my standards or the girls I don't have connection with. I try to minimize the risk by interviewing them prior (via WhatsApp), requesting photos, social media, etc. Of course, if I just want a quick fuck, or I understand she is a pro, no extensive interview is necessary, good photos / videos and a quick chat would suffice. But when searching for some short term or longer term arrangement, chemistry is crucial. Unfortunately, my stable of keepers doesn't last long, because all the good girls are snatched up quickly, I can't be physically present in all of those cities year round, and this is something that is out of my control.

Howdy all. I'm a longtime Seeker. Usually in Latin America. Got a trip coming up to Eastern Europe. But I'm flexible on where in Eastern Europe. I'the love to go where seeking is bangin. But all of the cities I poke around in have very limited options. Like when I look at Estonian or Romanian cities, girls 18-24, there are only a small handful, which means maybe a few are actually active and available. I know from a lot of experience that the best cities are the ones where there are tons of options and you can pick and choose.

Anyone know which Eastern European cities are hopping for this activity?

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I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?

[QUOTE=WhoMadeWho;2825943]Which do you prefer (MTY vs CDMX) and why?

Other than chicas, any good hiking around MTY?[/QUOTE]

Great report. I have similar experience when I visited Cdmx in Feb this year.

But I guess mongering is expensive everywhere now a days and as you said MXN is stronger now.

I was planning another trip to Cdmx this summer but decided to do MiddleEast / Asia trip (Istanbul, Dubai, India and Thailand).

All these places are now 30% more expensive than last 2 years. The same girls, I met from last year now asked more.

Only good part is they stay all nights and enjoy bed time, where in US I will pay same money for 1 HR. For shitty service.

[QUOTE=BobisTheGuy;2828705]I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?[/QUOTE]

You have got mail.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2828728]Great report. I have similar experience when I visited Cdmx in Feb this year.

But I guess mongering is expensive everywhere now a days and as you said MXN is stronger now.

I was planning another trip to Cdmx this summer but decided to do MiddleEast / Asia trip (Istanbul, Dubai, India and Thailand).

All these places are now 30% more expensive than last 2 years. The same girls, I met from last year now asked more.

Only good part is they stay all nights and enjoy bed time, where in US I will pay same money for 1 HR. For shitty service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobisTheGuy;2828705]I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?[/QUOTE]Good report, but I disagree with most of it with exception, CDMX is expensive and High end girls are not available.

1. Asian dudes are not an issue, yes, they may pay more, but for the most part the girls do not like to date Asia. (Sorry Asia Guys, no disrespect) Also, there are lot's of Asian chicks in CDMX, they usually date other Asians.

2. There is very little competition in CDMX and lots of eligible girls. I had no issue getting girls from $175-250 (6. 5-8).

3. High end girls are difficult to find in any location now, unless you have local knowledge, high budget and some game.

As I said in my previous posts and today, CDMX is amazing if you have time, some game and a decent budget.

Thanks for sharing. Could you please post the experience in Madrid? Especially prices paid. Thanks!

[QUOTE=BobisTheGuy;2828705]I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

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