East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Mike921;1220388]Believe it, po po knows everything going on here. And let's not forget the neighborhood 'monitors' who watch and report. Enforcement actions are usually taken for PR campaigns, and against those business owners who 'forget' the rules.[/QUOTE]Yes, LE knows of course, but what about the general public. I am always amazed to see the BBS and HJ SPAs flaunting their wares, I mean the girls are sexy dressed and waiting in the shop waving at men passing by. What would a local female think when she sees this, also these venues are usually located in residential areas with normal shops next to them. Often the girls walk out of their BBS / SPA to make a phone call or buy some food in the shop right next door. Everyone must know what they do right. Alsooften the girls are playing with a child (from the owner I guess) inside the BBS / SPA. I usually do not like such scenes since our hobby should be kept away from (innocent) children. But it seems to be accepted here, can I just conclude that prostitution is quite integrated in public life here in China, I mean where I come from our hobby is more kept away from the general public although we are far more open to sex than here in China. Just would like to know what other members' view is on this.

[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1220412]Kind of vague. You mean a laowai 'might' get arrested in such a place if the boss of the establishment forgot to pad the right pockets?

I don't want to risk my life in Shanghai over a hand job in one of these places (I'm not into paying for actual full service, just hand and BJ is my preference)

How is the qq girl scene, having a girl visit ones own place or visit their apartment? I've got qq and have 3 added me but they all just ask me to call a phone number. I imagine some guy sitting behind a computer just trying to get me to go to a. BBS. If anyone knows reliable cute qq girls pm me some numbers. I'll post reports.[/QUOTE]Dude, seriously, if you're that worried about it - then just don't partake. No one can guarantee you 100% trouble-free safety.

QQ girls? You can read adverts and reports on the web at: qianpad, tcjiyou, aishedes, meng1314, yihongyuan18 (dot net), xintongcheng (dot info), guizubb, and many, many others.

Thanks for the links Mike, didn't know about any of those websites before. The three that I currently have in my qq contacts list are like robots who keep repeating some sentence over and over and refusing to visit my apartment. I guess they are scared of jack the ripper types.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1220534]Dude, seriously, if you're that worried about it. Then just don't partake. No one can guarantee you 100% trouble-free safety.

QQ girls? You can read adverts and reports on the web at: qianpad, tcjiyou, aishedes, meng1314, yihongyuan18 (dot net) , xintongcheng (dot info) , guizubb, and many, many others.[/QUOTE]I was pretty paranoid and worried about it too. I found a HJ place near my hotel. The girls would do massage / HJ room service. It was a little more expensive but felt it was safer than being in the massage joint during a raid. I usually had the same girl so eventually we struck up a relationship. She said she never saw the police come in to raid the place. The realtionship moved on to freebies and now a full service girlfriend. Maybe not for everyone but it works for me.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Well, since you only go for the happy endings you should be save if you have your clothes on when they (LE) bust in your room. They need picture proof before the LE actually can convict you of anything. Just make sure there is no condom in the room. The rubber will be treated as evidence even if you have body covered in a winter parka.

Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1220412]Kind of vague. You mean a laowai 'might' get arrested in such a place if the boss of the establishment forgot to pad the right pockets?

I don't want to risk my life in Shanghai over a hand job in one of these places (I'm not into paying for actual full service, just hand and BJ is my preference)

How is the qq girl scene, having a girl visit ones own place or visit their apartment? I've got qq and have 3 added me but they all just ask me to call a phone number. I imagine some guy sitting behind a computer just trying to get me to go to a. BBS. If anyone knows reliable cute qq girls pm me some numbers. I'll post reports.[/QUOTE]

[quote=pokerstar77; 1220701]if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

well, since you only go for the happy endings you should be save if you have your clothes on when they (le) bust in your room. they need picture proof before the le actually can convict you of anything. just make sure there is no condom in the room. the rubber will be treated as evidence even if you have body covered in a winter parka.

just my 2 cents.[/quote]this is china is this true about the pictures? i did not think they needed a picture. or even real evidence. anyway, i was staying in the sheraton hongqiao. i walked over to the massage place in the circular building next door (1st floor) the girls had told me the day before at the door they do massage / hjs for 200rmb. i looked in, the girls were not that pretty so i peeked in the glass door and left.

as i turned around to leave, there were 6 police officers behind me! they walked in and i walked out! i went across the street and watched. they had a van with another 5 police inside. i hung around 15 mins but did not see the girls escorted out. i walked around and the van was there for an hour plus (i walked around and came back. it was a saturday am and i was killing time.)

anyway in about 4 days, they were back in business.

[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1220547]Thanks for the links Mike, didn't know about any of those websites before. The three that I currently have in my qq contacts list are like robots who keep repeating some sentence over and over and refusing to visit my apartment. I guess they are scared of jack the ripper types.[/QUOTE]Ha ha, they're only scared of losing money - girls can turn more trick$ if they stay in one place all day instead of bouncing around all over town. Outcall cancellations can waste a lot of time (and cost them taxi/bus/subway fares).

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1220506]Yes, LE knows of course, but what about the general public. I am always amazed to see the BBS and HJ SPAs flaunting their wares, I mean the girls are sexy dressed and waiting in the shop waving at men passing by. What would a local female think when she sees this, also these venues are usually located in residential areas with normal shops next to them. Often the girls walk out of their BBS / SPA to make a phone call or buy some food in the shop right next door. Everyone must know what they do right. Alsooften the girls are playing with a child (from the owner I guess) inside the BBS / SPA. I usually do not like such scenes since our hobby should be kept away from (innocent) children. But it seems to be accepted here, can I just conclude that prostitution is quite integrated in public life here in China, I mean where I come from our hobby is more kept away from the general public although we are far more open to sex than here in China. Just would like to know what other members' view is on this.[/QUOTE]There was a "luxury hair wash BBS right next to the corner of Wanhangdu Road on Beijing Road in Jinqan, three years ago. Lots of girls and a barber shop sigh revolving. Next there was a trendy restaurant. Now it's a women's spa. Next to it is a massage place where Happy, Happy is happening. My gal there only once told me in a text she could not make happy, cause it was dangerous. When I arrived she made happy. It was never mentioned again. I walked around the area recently and could not find even one BBS, only massage places. Any hints abour BBS in Jingan. Send me a PM.

Bj4987 here

How do you actually say 'I only want a hand job' in Chinese. Not pinyin, but actual Chinese characters. I mean like, the exact chinese equivalent of 'HJ' in english. Not something vague like 'massage' or 'oil massage' or 'hand massage'. But a direct HAND JOB. I've no interest in being lubed up in oil and massaged all over my body for 30 minutes before finally saying hello to my little friend.

I keep getting solicited for full service by the qq girls. I've tried google but it just won't return anything that they understand clearly.

This one girl on qq asked to see my cam, then offered full service for 500, outcall. Some others said 300 for full service. But alas, i'd be guilt ridden if i went with full service... as i have a gf. But i have some Bill Clinton in my blood so what am i supposed to do. At least i'm not leader of the free word representing an entire nation and doing it under the Resolute desk.

But even outcall has me a little concerned, as my building has 24/7 security inside the building right at the elevators (in addition to the standard security outside the building complex). So the girl better not show up in like... fishnet pantyhose and shouting out my apartment number.

I've only had sex with two girls in my entire life so i'm frustrated as hell and depressed. I also quit drinking so no more clubs, bars or any place that has alcohol. So basically i'll be playing battlefield 3 as my entertainment for the night.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1220779]How do you actually say 'I only want a hand job' in Chinese. Not pinyin, but actual Chinese characters. I mean like, the exact Chinese equivalent of 'HJ' in english. Not something vague like 'massage' or 'oil massage' or 'hand massage'. But a direct HAND JOB. I've no interest in being lubed up in oil and massaged all over my body for 30 minutes before finally saying Hello, to my little friend.

I keep getting solicited for full service by the qq girls. I've tried google but it just won't return anything that they understand clearly.

This one girl on qq asked to see my cam, then offered full service for 500, outcall. Some others said 300 for full service. But alas, I'd be guilt ridden if I went with full service. As I have a gf. But I have some Bill Clinton in my blood so what am I supposed to do. At least I'm not leader of the free word representing an entire nation and doing it under the Resolute desk.

But even outcall has me a little concerned, as my building has 24/7 security inside the building right at the elevators (in addition to the standard security outside the building complex). So the girl better not show up in like. Fishnet pantyhose and shouting out my apartment number.

I've only had sex with two girls in my entire life so I'm frustrated as hell and depressed. I also quit drinking so no more clubs, bars or any place that has alcohol. So basically I'll be playing battlefield 3 as my entertainment for the night.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]DAH FAY JEE = hand job

Guys, heading to Shanghai in a few days and want to check out this sanua. Can you advise on the address.

Cheers,

Oilman

I guess you were staying at the Grand Hyatt. I'm surprised that kind of thing goes on there!

[QUOTE=Top Hat; 1199936]I just flew into Shanghai from Abu Dhabi yesterday for my first to Shanghai before heading elsewhere in China today.

Thanks, guys, for all the posts. They were really helpful in getting oriented in a short time. Also, I found the Shanghai Guide to be really useful, so Kudos to the Guide.

Anyway, after arriving at my hotel, a high end place on top of a very tall building in Pudong...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oilman97; 1221027]Guys, heading to Shanghai in a few days and want to check out this sanua. Can you advise on the address.

Cheers,

Oilman[/QUOTE]&28006; &19996; &21335; &36335; 1085&21495;

1085 Pu Dong Nan Lu, near Nan Bei Gao Jia Lu.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1220779]But a direct HAND JOB. I've no interest in being lubed up in oil and massaged all over my body for 30 minutes before finally saying hello to my little friend. .[/QUOTE]Sent PM about places on Changle Road, DongZhuAnBang Road, and Anxi Road if you want a quick HJ with no pretense of a massage.

Dongzhuanbang Road places are the most private.

Changle just has a curtain.

Anxi is downright local and just has low partitions.

I prefer MPs but that's me.

Two worth mentioning.

If you are partying in the Bar 88 area (Fumin Road, Changle Road) and don't want to take a taxi, then there's one on Yanqing Road between Xinle and Huating Road. North side of the street. Neon sign says "Oil Massage" and ha a sign with a girl on it in white. No room showers. They clean you beforehand with a hot towel. Wasn't memorable enough to go back multiple times but the location is convenient. Can't remember the price. Around 200 RMB I believe.

Wulumuqi Road and Yongjia Road. Right on the corner next to an Alldays. Nice massage + HJ. No upsells offered. Big wide bed they climb on. On the dirtier side but good attention on the massage. Also they either don't bother with the shorts or they cut the crotch out to keep them from being annoying. 199 RMB.