General Reports

I was in HK on Tuesday and decided to try staying on the Kowloon side again, mostly because all of the regular Wanchai hotels I use had "stupid prices" for rooms. I mean 200+ USD for the Wharney! Are you kidding me!

Anyway, went to Har's about 8:30-9:00 and there were only about 5 gals there, in walks this knockout Fils gal, but it was obvious she already had plans for the evening. She spoke to a few of what I can only assume are the regulars in the bar and breezed out. There was only one other gal in the place I was interested in and spoke to her just before heading out to dinner. Went to have pizza with a friend at the restaurant where Sticky Finger's used to be, as it turns out it is owned by the same people. Then off to the new Sticky Fingers, it is now about 11:00pm and there were only 4-5 gals there as well, a couple of strong possibilities walked in and were instantly chatted up before I could even make my way to the bar to say Hello. I noticed that most the gals I saw this night would have a hard time competing from a looks stand point with the majority of the Wanchai gals, mostly because the tend to be a little "broader in the beam" than the WC gals. I got smiled at a couple of times while another guy was chatting up the gal, but wasn't interested in waiting to see if the deal was completed.

Went back to Hari's to see if the talent pool had improved, but was disappointed to see it hadn't. I didn't see one of the Northern Sisters on this evening and this is the second or third trip to Hari's that has ended in similar disappointment. I will say one thing, the tall singer in the band is a vision and I would LOVE to try that on for size! Yummy!

The cute fils girl I had spoken with earlier was in conversation with about three guys, so I smiled and turned to leave. As I walked out the door, she had followed and asked me where I was going so soon, I replied,"To Wanchai!", she then asked why and I said," you are busy and I am not going to waste more time." She then told me she had been "waiting for me to come back", I acknowledged her efforts and took the MTR to Wanchai.

Escape was just getting started, but I found a tall, shapley Fils gal that had only been in HK two days. This trip.

She said she mostly went to Singapore, but had been out the game for a while and then her "boyfriend" dumped her so, she thought she would try HK again after a 2 year "layoff". She was asking 2000, I countered with 700 ST, she said 1500 LT and I told her I was sure someone would pay that for her, but not me and I knew she wasn't going to commit to a lower fee this early in the night. She gave me her number and said to call on my next visit, which confused me since I thought I was "cheap Charley", but who knows.

Went to Neptunes and got into the middle of a covey of cute Thai's. As an aside, is it a bad thing when you walk into a hooker bar and 3-4 gals remember you from earlier liaisons?

Anyway, culled out one of the Thai's that turned out to be 28 yrs old, taxied back to Kowloon, enjoyed her company for a couple of hours then sent her on her way home.

A nice evening but nothing spectacular. I really want to catch Hari's on a good night, but so far I haven't seen it "good" in over a year.

I did get approached on Temple street about 6 pm by a cute gal for a "massage", but didn't get the details as I had other plans and was also asked as I was heading to Sticky Fingers by a "independent gal" if I wanted a "massage". I didn't see the Mommie that was there a few weeks ago and when I came out of SF, the gal was long gone, which was no surprise as she was cute. I figured she was trying to make some extra money for the trip home on CNY.

Okay, I hope that you will indulge me a little. I have never tried one of the 141, 161 gals, and too be honest don't really know how to make contact. Do most of the gals speak some English? As a rule how difficult are the locations to find? I assume that everything is at their place as opposed to hotel delivery? TIA.

Sky

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1115109]Okay, I hope that you will indulge me a little. I have never tried one of the 141, 161 gals, and too be honest don't really know how to make contact. Do most of the gals speak some English? As a rule how difficult are the locations to find? I assume that everything is at their place as opposed to hotel delivery? TIA.

Sky[/QUOTE]OK, Sky, it's 'easy as pie'. No trip to HK is complete without sampling the ridiculously easy wares at 141, 161, 148, etc.

Do you have computer access? If so, go to ******. Com. 161sex. Com, or my personal favorite, miss148. Com. You can 'shop' to your heart's content, and on miss148. Com, just 'build' your perfect girl with the specifics you enter in. Most can speak a little English, but man, it's not really necessary! The language of 'love' and 'lust' is universal, my friend.

Barring access to a computer, or if for some reason they are blocking access in HK, just go to the Jordan MTR station (I see you use the MTR a LOT, good man!) and take exit 'A'. That should put you out on the northwest corner of Jordan and Nathan Road. Walk just a few doors west to the Forrester building at 21 Jordan. Go in, and start riding the elevator. By the way, this is the way many local HK mongers work it. Every floor has 3, 4 or more door ways lit up with 'pink lights'. Just start knocking, and if you don't like what you see behind door number 1, just politely say, 'sorry, wrong door', and keep shopping. It's quite fun to hunt up a 'gem' this way, and believe me, you'll find one and for $400-500 HKD or maybe less. Now don't expect a 'Wanchai Princess', as most of these Putonghua speaking mainland ladies will be over 30, with some even over 40. But you won't get all the 'drama' you sometimes get with those Wanchai Winches, either. I've used these services many times, and NEVER been disappointed; they are there to please you, and they know it, competition is keen and the LOVE repeat business. Knowing few of the 'pleasure' words in Chinese such as 'thank you, you are beautiful, ', etc, will go a LONG way, but again, many know such words in English as well.

Now my personal fav is 'So-So' up in Kowloon. RTTF for more details I've written on her or other recommendations by other punters here on the forum.

Have fun, you Dog! And return a favor. Tell us about your adventure!

Hi guys,

Coming to HK again in 3-4 weeks and was wondering with laguna closing (or now closed?) , where are all the horny Indonesian girls going at night. Neptune, etc?

I have been seeing a sexy Indo maid for the past year on my visits but I can only see her on Sunday's when her Chinese boss gives her one day off a week.

I've had other Indo's and they are better fun than PI's or Thai.

[QUOTE=Janbel;1112972]Few weeks ago I got in touch on internet with a lady from Indonesia in her early 30's working in HK as a maid. Writing was normal, nothing sexual although not shy at all.[/QUOTE]Can I ask, which site did you find her on? Any other sites you'd recommend.

AL

I also posted this in shanghai board.

Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.

I'm in a hotel, my first time in shanghai. I take a taxi to xin tian di to get food and drink and hopefully pick up a freebie. Many women hassled me, you want girl? Etc. I waves them all away. Tonight I decided to have some balls and talk to girls. It was a freebie or nothing. Sometimes I need the thrill of the chase.

Two girls call out to me. I figure they're WGs but I say Hello. They ask me where I'm from, am I here on business, etc. No mention of girls, money or KTVs. They ask me if I want to have a drink. I tell them I haven't eaten yet and I was about to go eat and would they like to join me? Sure. So off we go to a restaurant. I order food and they just order juice, we talk about a lot of stuff, occupations, families, etc.

The one who was aggressive in getting my attention, Susan, wasn't that attractive but hEr friend Angela was smoking hot and looked young. Later she showed me her I'd and she was only 18! So I focused my flirting more on her while maintaining friendly conversation with Susan as well. I was getting a great vibe from Angela and she said too bad you don't live here, you're such a great guy and I'd like to have a boyfriend like you, you're so cute with your blond hair, etc.

Then Susan goes to the bathroom and a gela and I are still talking, I move in for a kiss and she returns it, but I go for tongue and she pulls away a bit. She says there are too many people here so I say then why don't we go somewhere we can be alone? She says yes I want to. Jackpot! Now I have to figure out how to get rid of Susan. Susan returns and says she wants to go dance while I finish eating. So I continue to talk to Angela. Susan returns from dancing with a guy she met on the dance floor, an Italian. I couldn't believe my luck, thinking my wingman had appeared out of nowhere and he'd take her and leave me with Angela.

So I pay the bill and we decide to go to a bar. We are going to get in a taxi and then I realize the Italian guy is gone. I ask what happened to him. Susan says he wanted her to go to his hotel with him and she doesn't do that the first time she meets someone so she asked him not to join us. Fuck, now I'm stuck with Susan again.

We go to a bar and get drinks and a fruit plate. By now Angela is saying she's coming home with me, calling me darling and baby and ladykillers, etc. We have our hands all o Er each other and are eating fruit out of each other's mouths. Getting hot in anticipation of fucking an 18 year old freebie and probably one of the top 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. But Susan is still there and I got a bit of a cockblocker vibe from her. Surprisingly she says, why don't you two go and I'll go home? YES!

At the taxi stand susan asks me cor her taxi fare home. She says she lives far away and needs 200 RMB. Really? What the fuck, given the situation though I give it to her. Now I'm finally alone with Angela in the taxi headed toward my hotel. And she drops the bomb.

"you're going to give me something, right?"

Fuck.

I deflated like the hindenberg. I have a LOT of experience with WGs so paying doesn't bother me, but if you hunt for a WG you k ow the dynamic going in and you get in that frame of mind. But this was hot romantic and I was psyched because I thought angela really liked me. And remember she has no idea I have WG experience.

So I say how much do you want? She said she didn't want to name a price. I said okay 800? She said no. I said 1000? She said 2000. Now by this time my heart wasn't in it anymore. I said I am confused why you asked for money, I didn't think you were that type of girl. She says I am not that type of girl, but you are only in town for a few days so I can't have you as a boyfriend, so if we are just going to have a temporary thing I need some money. Any girl in China would do the same, she claimed. Ok I thought, she's hot, young and seems to really like me. We just spent 5 hours together with no mention of money and she seemed very sincere. She told me, if I didn't like you I wouldn't spe the the night with you for any price. I really like you so much. I just need money.

She could tell I was disappointed. I said ok. By this time we were at my hotel. We walked across the street to a bar to talk it out. She said she wanted half first. I said ok let's get to my room and I can give you half. She said no I need it before we get to your room. I said I don't have that much cash on me. She said let's go to the ATM. What the fuck? So now I can't tell what's up with this girl. Is she going to scam me? So I say no let's go to my room, I need to know you will actually come with me.

She got very upset, saying I didn't trust her and I ruined her mood and desire, etc and why did I change from such a great guy to a mean guy once she mentioned money? I told her the whole situation was very confusing for me and I would be ok giving her 1000 now. But she was clearly hurt and just waved a taxi. She said she was just not in the mood anymore. But she then gave me her number (real, I tested it) and said I should call her tomorrow and after we both cooled off we'd have a better time together, shed meet me without Susan and spend the whole night with me.

So fucking strange. Angela can't be a WG because she'd have taken my 2000 for a fuck no matter her mood, and if she and Susan were a team Susan would have gladly stayed with the Italian guy for money and not kicked him out. I understand there are mercenary girls who Fu k for money but aren't WGs. But she spent 5 hours with me, she was very affectionate and she was really hurt when she thought I no longer trusted her.

What do you guys think of all this? I don't know if I should really meet her again tonight although I told her I would. I have no problem paying a premium price for a premium girl. But I thought I had bagged her with my looks, with and charm and now it's less appealing. Maybe I DID bag her with my looks, with and charm and she just has a certain world View where all this makes sense to her.

Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her?

@Johnny Rocket: From the story I'd suspect that she was going to bag what ever you were going to give her up front and run or hold back on any real sexual service. Only one way to find out though, hold out for paying afterwards and see where that goes. About her friend, is it possible that the Italian guy did not want to pay up front either?

Then again, I am pretty synical

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115535]and she just has a certain world View where all this makes sense to her.

Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her? [/QUOTE]Indeed brother, she has the world view of a woman spreading her legs for money. What I would do at this point would be to just do the simple math; is that pussy worth that money to you? She is in fact a prostitute, although a young and hot and terribly awkward one at that. She just hasn't got the mileage yet for her to handle the whole ordeal properly, so she plays flirt in between. Also, this may well be a scam, don't forget what you put yourself up for any time you give money to a prostitute upfront...you don't want to se her run away with your (ex) money and then have to play with your dick alone in your hotel room later on!

So, to answer your question; nevermind what's up with her, if you think the piece is worth the money go for it and make the most of it (and post some pictures of her on here for us to congratuate you on your catch afterwards, LOL).

Bless

P.S. // As a side note, somehow i'm not surprised at all of how she behaved. Chinese. What do you expect? When you buy Chinese plastic there will be some metal in it, and when you buy some metal there will inevitably be some plastics mixed in it. That's the way it goes with them, they just can't seem to ever be able to give it straight.

[quote=littletruths; 1115544]bless.

p. s. /as a side note, somehow i'm not surprised at all of how she behaved. chinese. what do you expect? when you buy chinese plastic there will be some metal in it, and when you buy some metal there will inevitably be some plastics mixed in it. that's the way it goes with them, they just can't seem to ever be able to give it straight. [/quote]that's a racist and ignorant comment!

considering that china is the world's factory and almost everything is made there even everyone's beloved iphone, you will get some things that fall through the cracks. in general here is a positive correlation between what you pay and and quality, so if there is a quality issue the buyers are as much to blame as the people that make it. the us president made a speech a mopnth ago about decreasing us dependence on chinese manufacturing regading solar tech, etc. obviously he hasn't shopped in walmat lately.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115535]I also posted this in shanghai board.

Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.

Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her? [/QUOTE]Could be as simple as she didn't trust that you would pay her the full 2000 in the morning.

She has actually agreed to meet you again, has she?

[QUOTE=Bob Builder; 1115587]Could be as simple as she didn't trust that you would pay her the full 2000 in the morning.

She has actually agreed to meet you again, has she? [/QUOTE]Yes, I am meant to call her tonight

[QUOTE=Bob Builder; 1115587]Could be as simple as she didn't trust that you would pay her the full 2000 in the morning.

She has actually agreed to meet you again, has she? [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Henio; 1115543]@Johnny Rocket: From the story I'd suspect that she was going to bag what ever you were going to give her up front and run or hold back on any real sexual service. Only one way to find out though, hold out for paying afterwards and see where that goes. About her friend, is it possible that the Italian guy did not want to pay up front either?

Then again, I am pretty synical[/QUOTE]Could be. But Susan told me several times about how she is a more traditional Chinese girl and wouldn't do that. If she were also looking for customers, there were plenty of targets out and about, but she was content to laugh and talk with us for hours. If they are a team working together to extract men's money they are not very efficient!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115535]Getting hot in anticipation of fucking an 18 year old. One of the top 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. ? What do you think is up with her?

What do you guys think of all this? I don't know if I should really meet her again tonight although I told her I would. I have no problem paying a premium price for a premium girl. [/QUOTE]The answer to your first question is that she is an 18 year old pro. The answer to your second question is what's the problem? If she is as hot as you say she is; I would do her and do her again. I can see how you got deflated when the money issue came up. You thought you had struck gold. Sorry, the odds of winning the lottery are 1 in 13 million. Now back in reality, you see her for what she is, a high class independent hooker. She fucks who she wants, when she wants and for big dollars (renminbi). She probably likes you as far as that goes.

So you can have nice GFE with a super hot Chinese 18 year old stunner or watch another episode of CSI Miami alone in your hotel room. It's a no brainer. Just leave the money on the dresser. If that is not acceptable to her then forget about her, something is wrong. You are not at Super Girls in Pattaya. Never pay before play.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115615]Could be. But Susan told me several times about how she is a more traditional Chinese girl and wouldn't do that. If she were also looking for customers, there were plenty of targets out and about, but she was content to laugh and talk with us for hours. If they are a team working together to extract men's money they are not very efficient![/QUOTE]

Since when did more tradional Chinese girls, pick up foreigners in bars and fuck for money.

If she were a more taditional Chinese girl, you would have to meet the parents first and pay a lot more money, LOL!

It was the third wheel, Susan, who said she was a more traditional Chinese girl. The one who told the Italian guy to take a hike. Angela the hottie was too busy eating fruit out of mouth to say anything.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder; 1115627]Since when did more tradional Chinese girls, pick up foreigners in bars and fuck for money.

If she were a more taditional Chinese girl, you would have to meet the parents first and pay a lot more money, LOL! [/QUOTE]

You're right on all counts. But I will have to give her half first. I'm going to do it, most likely. And will try to get pics and/or cum on her face obv.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder; 1115627]Since when did more tradional Chinese girls, pick up foreigners in bars and fuck for money.

If she were a more taditional Chinese girl, you would have to meet the parents first and pay a lot more money, LOL! [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1115620]The answer to your first question is that she is an 18 year old pro. The answer to your second question is what's the problem? If she is as hot as you say she is; I would do her and do her again. I can see how you got deflated when the money issue came up. You thought you had struck gold. Sorry, the odds of winning the lottery are 1 in 13 million. Now back in reality, you see her for what she is, a high class independent hooker. She fucks who she wants, when she wants and for big dollars (renminbi). She probably likes you as far as that goes.

So you can have nice GFE with a super hot Chinese 18 year old stunner or watch another episode of CSI Miami alone in your hotel room. It's a no brainer. Just leave the money on the dresser. If that is not acceptable to her then forget about her, something is wrong. You are not at Super Girls in Pattaya. Never pay before play. [/QUOTE]