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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2354639]At Star of Light (on Patpong 2) and Duangporn's Haven (ex Soms Haven), you pay the shop after the session. As far as I know, paying after at BJ shops is the norm, or at least used to be.[/QUOTE]7-heaven and Dr. BJ.
I paid before.
Lol1 ta, paid after.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2354692]My review was for 7-heaven, which I believe is the name name of Duangporn's heaven.[/QUOTE]The "new" Soms Haven is located off of Asok, near terminal 21. Nowhere near soi 7. Also, pay after the deed is the custom there. TTG.
[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;2354744]The "new" Soms Haven is located off of Asok, near terminal 21. Nowhere near soi 7. Also, pay after the deed is the custom there. TTG.[/QUOTE]The place I went to, 7-heaven, or 7-hell as I now prefer to call it, is on Soi 33, a bit down from the Emquartier / Phomphrong BTS. An article I read said Som's haven changed name to Duangaporn's haven, and I thought I read that it after that changed name again to 7-heaven, but I can't find that article now.
So that's great then. Will try the new Som's haven (that's now Duangaporn's haven, right?) next time I'm in Bangkok I hope. Thanks,
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2354758]The place I went to, 7-heaven, or 7-hell as I now prefer to call it, is on Soi 33, a bit down from the Emquartier / Phomphrong BTS. An article I read said Som's haven changed name to Duangaporn's haven, and I thought I read that it after that changed name again to 7-heaven, but I can't find that article now.
So that's great then. Will try the new Som's haven (that's now Duangaporn's haven, right?) next time I'm in Bangkok I hope. Thanks,[/QUOTE]Yes, Som is now Duangporn Haven.
[URL]http://sukhumvit-psycho.com/2018/11/duangporn-haven-asok-sukhumvit/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2354736]Lol1 ta, paid after.[/QUOTE]Ditto Kas#long.
A little off topic, but what the hell.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2354705]That being said, Jakarta was much better 15 years ago than it is now even without the photos/lineups[/QUOTE]As a newcomer to Jakarta, my 1st visit was in 2014, I always assumed things were wilder and much better in the good ol' days. I still remember the scene from Mel Gibson's "The Year of Living Dangerously" (1982) in which his antagonist fellow reporter goes out girl hunting and is surrounded by 100's of SW's the moment he exits his taxi. That scene is very reminiscent of what used to go on in Geylang, Singapore not too long ago. Even as late as 2015 I can still very fondly recall how large numbers of SW's used to congregate on the corner of Talma Rd and Lorang 12 across from the park. I used to stand in the middle of that intersection with scores and scores of Chinese girls to my left, Indo girls to my right, Viets in front of me and Thai girls behind me all vying for my attention and custom. It was amazing.
So, when did Alexis Hotel and Malio Club first open their doors? and the age of live lineups begin in Jakarta. Those 2 bordellos must have been great back then. Malio is still very good, but under pressure from the authorities, they cut out the nudity in 2018. What a shame! Now the girls dance with short little bottoms on, pulled up as far as they will go to reveal, in some cases, some very cute ass, but what a loss. And Alexis as you know was closed down for nefarious reasons. Those were my two favorite places. Malio still is.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2354922]So, when did Alexis Hotel and Malio Club first open their doors? and the age of live lineups begin in Jakarta. Those 2 bordellos must have been great back then. Malio is still very good, but under pressure from the authorities, they cut out the nudity in 2018. What a shame! Now the girls dance with short little bottoms on, pulled up as far as they will go to reveal, in some cases, some very cute ass, but what a loss. And Alexis as you know was closed down for nefarious reasons. Those were my two favorite places. Malio still is.[/QUOTE]When Malioboro first opened (early / mid 2000's), they had dancers in the spa on the ground floor as well as in the main room on the floor above that. The girls started dancing in the spa at 6 pm, and there were dancers in the main room at 7. They would rotate each hour with the spa dancers at 8 pm again and so on. They had different girls in the spa than they did in the main room. I haven't seen that in a while. A lot of guys never even try the spa these days, but it's on the ground floor and has a large jacuzzi / pool and also a large sauna. Guys would get in the water and sit in the jacuzzi / pool and wait for the girls to come in and join, about 5 girls would dance topless on edge of the pool wearing g-string type of bikini bottoms. After their dance show, the girls would get in the water and they would straddle the guys in there giving them lap dances in the water. The girls didn't get the guys to buy drinks, they got them to buy roses. Same theory as the drinks though, 50 k per rose. The more roses you bought her, the longer the lap dance. With the girls on their lap, the guys would play with and suck their bare tits and play with their pussies and asses under the water. The girls would reach in the guy's shorts and jerk the guy off during the lap dance. I would assume some guys got to insert if they bought enough roses. LOL. I had indonesian friends who would go there just for that. They would buy 5 roses for the girls to get full release hand jobs in the water. I never got in the water because the last thing I want is to be in a pool full of sperm, but the event was fun. I often went down there to watch those dancers in the spa, but I watched while standing beside the pool. The dancers upstairs wore bikinis, so if you wanted to see topless, you needed to go to the spa back in those days. Once the girls were in the water, I went upstairs.
I think around 2015 was the naughtiest time for Malioboro / Malio. By then, the dancers were completely naked.
I wasn't a fan of Alexis and only went there a few times. I always thought their prices were ridiculous. I will say though that the few times I did go, it was always the same, so you saw what it was like if you went there. I think the first time I went there was around 2008, but I'm sure it was open prior to that.
Actually, I'm not really a big fan of the bordellos in general. The really fun places in Jakarta back 20 years ago were not bordellos. I won't say that I haven't been to almost all of them in town and have had fun at most of them, but they are lower on my list of priorities. I think the big bordellos are a major reason for Jakarta's decline and I would not care much if they shut them all down.
Almost every night I spent at the (now closed) night club called Tanamur was better than any experience I have ever had in any bordello. That place was awesome. I think it won the award for best night club in Asia like 20 years in a row.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2355000]When Malioboro first opened (early / mid 2000's), they had dancers in the spa on the ground floor as well as in the main room on the floor above that. The girls started dancing in the spa at 6 pm, and there were dancers in the main room at 7. They would rotate each hour with the spa dancers at 8 pm again and so on. They had different girls in the spa than they did in the main room. I haven't seen that in a while. A lot of guys never even try the spa these days, but it's on the ground floor and has a large jacuzzi / pool and also a large sauna. Guys would get in the water and sit in the jacuzzi / pool and wait for the girls to come in and join, about 5 girls would dance topless on edge of the pool wearing g-string type of bikini bottoms. After their dance show, the girls would get in the water and they would straddle the guys in there giving them lap dances in the water. The girls didn't get the guys to buy drinks, they got them to buy roses. Same theory as the drinks though, 50 k per rose. The more roses you bought her, the longer the lap dance. With the girls on their lap, the guys would play with and suck their bare tits and play with their pussies and asses under the water. The girls would reach in the guy's shorts and jerk the guy off during the lap dance. I would assume some guys got to insert if they bought enough roses. LOL. I had indonesian friends who would go there just for that. They would buy 5 roses for the girls to get full release hand jobs in the water. I never got in the water because the last thing I want is to be in a pool full of sperm, but the event was fun. I often went down there to watch those dancers in the spa, but I watched while standing beside the pool. The dancers upstairs wore bikinis, so if you wanted to see topless, you needed to go to the spa back in those days. Once the girls were in the water, I went upstairs.
I think around 2015 was the naughtiest time for Malioboro / Malio. By then, the dancers were completely naked.
I wasn't a fan of Alexis and only went there a few times. I always thought their prices were ridiculous. I will say though that the few times I did go, it was always the same, so you saw what it was like if you went there. I think the first time I went there was around 2008, but I'm sure it was open prior to that.
Actually, I'm not really a big fan of the bordellos in general. The really fun places in Jakarta back 20 years ago were not bordellos. I won't say that I haven't been to almost all of them in town and have had fun at most of them, but they are lower on my list of priorities. I think the big bordellos are a major reason for Jakarta's decline and I would not care much if they shut them all down.
Almost every night I spent at the (now closed) night club called Tanamur was better than any experience I have ever had in any bordello. That place was awesome. I think it won the award for best night club in Asia like 20 years in a row.[/QUOTE]I remember early 00's Jakarta. Was unreal. Stadium, Today Country, Lintas Melawai, huge discos like Sidney 2000, numerous brothel areas, etc. Honestly the most amazing party scene I've ever witnessed. Completely unbridled and the gals were uninhibited and fun. I was amazed this was going on in an Islamic country.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2355012]I remember early 00's Jakarta. Was unreal. Stadium, Today Country, Lintas Melawai, huge discos like Sidney 2000, numerous brothel areas, etc. Honestly the most amazing party scene I've ever witnessed. Completely unbridled and the gals were uninhibited and fun. I was amazed this was going on in an Islamic country.[/QUOTE]Lintas Melawai was awesome. So was Stadium, but I have mixed feelings about Stadium because it basically replaced Tanamur as the go-to night spot in Jakarta. These days there are basically brothels and expensive 5 star hotel free lance bars with nothing comparable to a place like Tanamur, Lintas Melawai, or Top Gun in it's prime anymore. I do wonder if they shut down those big brothels if the free lance scene would return to it's once great form.
I strolled up Soi 4 near the Nana Hotel sign last night and was arm hooked by a Vietnamese girl who seemed desperate to "go with you". I thought she was lovely but for whatever reason I wasn't all that inspired. She wouldn't let go of my hand gracefully. Maybe I could stir up a bit more interest for her in my loins and settle on a reason to take her. I said "good sex?" She said yes. I said "ok, but good sex means with no condom". She said boom boom with condom, suck dick no condom. "Oh. No. Sorry, hon. I want boom boom tonight. I cannot have sex with condom." She looked crest fallen and reluctantly let go of my hand. Oh well. I tried.
Into Butterflies go-go in Nana Plaza. A young, cute, sexy dancing and doable but unremarkable girl spied me from the stage and would not stop glancing over, smiling broadly. I swear I think she was the same one who enlisted two mamasans a few weeks back and all they could say in unison was "All the girls here get 3,000 baht for Short Time", if anyone recalls that report. But I wasn't sure. She made a beeline for me within a minute of her dance stage break. Sure, I'll let her sit on my lap, sure I'll buy her a ladydrink. She felt great on my lap and in my hands. Very soon I had a ramrod boner for her.
She was taking a long, long time to finish that one ladydrink. Good sign. She was applying lots of mild and occasional deep french kissing to me on the couch. Another good sign. So I broached the subject of a barfine. 1,000 to the bar this time (about 10 PM), 3,000 to her for Short Time. I expressed surprise by so much baht! Haha. Then got close to her hear and I told her I would be ok to pay that amount but I cannot wear a condom for sex. "Ohhhhh. I cannot. I WANT. But I cannot. " No problem, sweetheart. Maybe see you again another time. "Ohhh. I really want to go with you!" I know. Me too. But I cannot wear a condom for sex. "Ohhhh." I bid bye-bye to her, gave her 100 baht tip for the fine lapdance and touchy-feely, paid my bill and left. Oh well. Again, I tried. And I think this was the second time I tried with that same girl. lol. Just so many I can't be sure.
Maybe I would check out Thermae now. But first took another quick stroll down Soi 4. A girl with a sweet cute face, mid 20's I suppose, revealing nice legs in short shorts, fit and trim overall, was in the middle of a little pow wow with some other FLs, saw me about to pass by on the sidewalk and she broke through the group to grab my hand. Communication was limited as she did not speak any English at all. Considering my oft stated requirement regarding condoms, I tend not to be specific about the girls I take and have a great time with. That will apply here and now.
Anyway, we had Google Translate. 1,500 for ST, 5,000 for LT. "Everything okay. Except no sex in the butt. Too much pain. Haha." No more negotiation from me. I'm fine with that. Short time.
As has been the case more often than some would predict, that "Everything" ad she pitched to me meant exactly what it said and what I have no doubt she knew I would assume it meant. She had virtually no tits, but the rest of her body was slick smooth, fit, trim and hairless heaven. Yeah, there was a small bit of humorous banter and gestures about my really not being capable of making her pregnant. My vasectomy and all. But that was the only hassle and glitch, very minor, in an otherwise fine, fine 90 minutes or so of glorious, fresh, clean and delicious female tasting DATY, a damn good BBBJ as oral foreplay (have to investigate where that damn good BJ leads as a stand alone event next time) and the main event as god and all his angels intended it to be enjoyed. WIR? Oh yeah.
The beauty of going with those "Everything, Up To You, I Will Make You Happy" sales pitches / negotiations from FLs on the, imo, fully justified assumption they know exactly what a Western customer prospect would likely assume they mean by it is that it virtually eliminates any need to negotiate further, no need to guess what is and what isn't on the menu and so on. And at the same time, you will have standing for denying or reducing payment later if it turns out she was only trying to scam you with false advertising or some other bait-and-switch trick.
[QUOTE=Penguin69;2354842]Ditto Kas#long.[/QUOTE]And Afterskool, pay after when you settle your drinks bill or after the deed is finished.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2355012]I remember early 00's Jakarta. Was unreal. Stadium, Today Country, Lintas Melawai, huge discos like Sidney 2000, numerous brothel areas, etc. Honestly the most amazing party scene I've ever witnessed. Completely unbridled and the gals were uninhibited and fun. I was amazed this was going on in an Islamic country.[/QUOTE]Same for me. I would spend whole nights partying at Stadium, sessioning 5 to 8 different, then selecting one at closing time to finish the party in the hotel, hoping the taxi would not run into police. During the day Maribaya or Berlian or Sari Ayu. Days after the big Tsunami that killed so many people in Sumatra and Phuket a fresh batch of extasy hit the streets. The pill was blue and was named "Tsunami". Absolute decadence. Never relived anyting approaching it.
[QUOTE=XXL;2355060]Same for me. I would spend whole nights partying at Stadium, sessioning 5 to 8 different, then selecting one at closing time to finish the party in the hotel, hoping the taxi would not run into police. During the day Maribaya or Berlian or Sari Ayu. Days after the big Tsunami that killed so many people in Sumatra and Phuket a fresh batch of extasy hit the streets. The pill was blue and was named "Tsunami". Absolute decadence. Never relived anyting approaching it.[/QUOTE]Did you have a girlfriend named Elga?
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2355071]Did you have a girlfriend named Elga?[/QUOTE]Ela without e as I remember. Round face. Started at Maribaya. Lived in cheap digs with chickens running around. Lazy brothers came from Bandung each week to collect her money. Liked to be fucked with both her arms pinned to the ground at the wrists.
[QUOTE=XXL;2355076]Ela without e as I remember. Round face. Started at Maribaya. Lived in cheap digs with chickens running around. Lazy brothers came from Bandung each week to collect her money. Liked to be fucked with both her arms pinned to the ground at the wrists.[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like the same girl. Elga lived in Taman Rasuna apartments with a fat white guy who loved to go to Stadium. She always used to say "he has big body, but his face so handsome". LOL. With the name XXL and your love for Stadium, I thought that might be you.
She said her boyfriend would leave her at home while he went to Stadium all night supposedly taking from 6 to 10 ecstacy pills a night. She claimed he would party at Stadium all night then have to work the next day and he would sleep all day at work, so he eventually lost his job and had to leave Indonesia.
I haven't seen Elga in a while, she was a very nice girl. Nice tits for a slim girl.