Bangkok Reports

From my observation I think it's much easier to get a girl to BB in Indonesia than in Bangkok. I don't have much PI experience to comment on there. Indonesia I'd say it's about 80% for P4 P girls whereas BKK is about 50%. Never had a girl insist on a condom for a BB in Indonesia but have had a couple in BKK, but that was my mistake for not clarifying what I wanted beforehand.

A lot of bargirls will have boyfriends who they do bareback, and their BF will pretty much bang anything they can with the money his girl gives him. Don't forget a lot of bargirls are working in the industry because their Thai BF knocked them up and dumped them.

My thoughts on the HIV situation is that back in the 90's most girls who got HIV was due to drug use, they were doing heroin back then and sharing needles. There are no needle exchanges in BKK and I doubt back then, or even now, you could just go to the pharmacy and buy needles. These days if girls are using drugs it will be Yaa Baa, Thaksin put a big hole in the drug scene when he gave the BIB open slather to deal with the issue.

[QUOTE=Catire;2357456]Mr. Tooms there is one flaw in your logic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would bet that the hookers who screw mostly farangs usually do not screw locals (for money).

Or most certainly not your average Thai man in brothel type.

This means that the girl is able to exercise some measure of control over her customer base (some go even further, for e. G. Screwing only Japanese, etc).

The girl then understands the pluses and minuses of having a clientele mostly or exclusively within that customer base.

For e. G. If girl likes making more money and prefers tp keep her Bush, she will most likely prefer Asian clients.

With farangs, she will most likely have to keep herself shaven, she will have the most control over condom use (as most clients will accept it, or more within this group than in others, IMO).

And whatever other disadvantages she may find, may be balanced by finding some guy who will send her money overseas (much less likely if at all among Asian clients, IMO).

So. It's a balancing act. Where a variety of factors come into play.

I'm quite sure that some of the women who service foreigners, would never to go to with in a Thai brothel (for variety of reasons, perhaps no condom use, perhaps low (er) pay etc etc.

So your line of reasoning simply doesn't neatly flow.[/QUOTE]You make some good points, Catire. However, I believe I have alluded to or mentioned some of the exceptions you have specified and perhaps a couple more.

I also accept the experienced authority I have read here and elsewhere about widespread distribution or even expectation of condom use in Thai based brothels post 1989/1992.

But I have had condoms offered or handed to me at bars, BJ bars, massage shops, out of P4P girls' purses, etc on a widespread basis too. Yet my rate of never having to put one on in order to have FS sex with the girl is at an overall 70%+ level without trying all that hard.

I would also say that rate matches and sometimes perhaps only barely (forgive the pun) matches the rate of almost every other farang visitor or expat I have met here. Of course, allowing for the reality that I can not see what really happens behind closed doors for them any more than we know what goes on behind closed doors between a Thai man and his hooker.

Even considering those pockets of exceptions vs the whole country, I might like to think my success rate in this regard far surpasses that of most Thai men rather than the other way around because of my exceeding good looks, winning charm, fluency with the language and being better able to identify the nuances of a Thai female's psyche, including hookers, in order to tap into it and have my way with her.

But that would be total BS. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2357550]You obviously haven't read our posts on Trump if you think we support each other's posts.

Strangely enough, I was thinking you and MonkeyPaw might be the same guy. I didn't want to say anything.[/QUOTE]Smoothie, I mean Smoothy, it is said the subject of the book and fine Sally Field movie, Sybil, had 16 distinct and separate personalities. And many of them disagreed and argued with the others. Don't dismiss this possibility for you and me so quickly.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2357587]Smoothie, I mean Smoothy, it is said the subject of the book and fine Sally Field movie, Sybil, had 16 distinct and separate personalities. And many of them disagreed and argued with the others. Don't dismiss this possibility for you and me so quickly.[/QUOTE]Naw, when I think of you 2 guys I think of the multiple characters played by James McAvoy in M. Night Shyamalan's the two unusual films "Split" & "Glass". LOL. And there is probably a few more of yous lurking around the ISG and occasionally causing trouble.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2357550]Strangely enough, I was thinking you and MonkeyPaw might be the same guy. I didn't want to say anything.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I'm genuinely curious what made you think that?

Oddly, I feel MonkeyPaw is at the [I]exact opposite[/I] end of the monger spectrum from me, and perhaps the personality spectrum too. I'm budget monger, and introvert who keeps a low profile and loves cheap but plentiful shags (mostly freelancers or streetwalkers), while MonkeyPaw clearly enjoys high end places, throwing huge amounts of money around, being in the center of attention and stirring up drama with the girls. Not saying it's wrong, different strokes for different folks, but we simply couldn't be more different.

If there's another poster that writes stuff I mostly agree with (and feel I should have written), it's probably Goatscrot.

Anyway, I meant no offense, just pointing out the patterns that stand out. Apologies if we're getting off topic here.

I find this related bare back vs condom debate interesting.

Being in my late 40's and having grown up in 80 when AIDS debate was prominent, I've used condoms all my adult life with a few exceptions.

I get the natural or sensitivity debate from certain strong advocates here. Personally I find the thin condoms rather close to the bare back experience- close enough to not want me to risk BB.

I understand the BB argument more if one is either older or has taken on alcohol and wishes to eliminate that extra hindrance to cumming.

Last time I went BB was few weeks ago in my home (Euro) country (with non-WG) and I manged to pop four times over 3 or 4 hours.

Travelling to SE Asia and going BB with ladies of negotiable affection to me seems to be inviting an infection of one form or another.

Last trip I did get BBBJ and DATY, this latter I later regretted. Will I do these two again? Yes, the former and possibly the latter with girls I have more confidence in.

Disclaimer: These rules are for reading / entertainment purposes only. They are not to be taken seriously. What works for me may not work for you. What I want may not be what you want. So there is no need to go Waco, Texas if you don't like any of the rules.

Rule 1. If the girl is glued to her cellphone, she is out. Out means eliminated.

2. If the girl is always touching her hair, she is out. She is egocentric and therefore will not provide good service.

3. I have a NO TAXI RULE. I'm slim and in good shape so this rule works for me. It may not be appropriate for others who have trouble handling the Bangkok heat. I usually get a hotel a ten minute walk away from Thermae Cafe. And that is what I tell the girl. If the girl insists on a taxi, then she is out. She will not provide good service if a ten minute walk is too much for her. They are all younger than me. If there is a stunner that you really want and she insists on getting a stuffy old room upstairs, then I guess you don't have much choice.

4. I like it if the girl is holding her handbag with two hands in front of her. Arms straight. Cellphone in her handbag. By this, she is telling you, "Look at me. I'm here to receive and please you. " For me, this rule alone will almost guarantee a good to possibly even superb experience.

5. I know standing for hours is not easy on the feet. But if the girl is sitting on a chair the whole time, then that is a bad sign.

6. If the girl has her arms crossed and looks unhappy to be there, she is definitely out.

7. If the girl waves or grabs you, she is out. She will likely have a demanding personality. Choose her if you want to be dominated by a girl.

8. If the girl's outfit looks expensive, she is out. I can tell if the dress is expensive or not. She will likely quote a very high rate.

9. Most Thermae girls tend to dress up, but if the girl is dressed like a cheap working girl, she is out. I guess you can get her if that is what you want. I guess the same with the above rule. Get her if you like expensive-looking girls.

10. If the girl is short in stature, she is out. In my experience, short girls tend to be stubborn. But with the high heels, sometimes it's easy to get fooled.

11. If the girls has had plastic surgery, she is out. Sometimes it's obvious. Sometimes, it's not. The girl is egocentric and overly concerned with outer beauty.

12. If the girl is fat, she is out. This rule is not so clear-cut because everyone has different standards for obesity. For me, it's simple. If she is not slim, then she is fat. And fat girls are always thinking about food.

13. Always check the girl's age. The maximum age for the girl is 25. This rule may need to be chucked out the window because many Thermae girls are above 25. But a girl above age 25 has had too many Bangcocks, is probably a single mother, and is most likely damaged emotionally. She might be ok for ST.

The upside of these rules is that you will most likely get a decent to great service from the girl. The major downside is that the stunners will probably be eliminated by one or more of the rules. But it's always give and take in life. Enjoy.

P.S. Look up Waco massacre, if curious about the Waco, Texas comment.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2358074]Disclaimer: These rules are for reading / entertainment purposes only. They are not to be taken seriously. What works for me may not work for you. What I want may not be what you want. So there is no need to go Waco, Texas if you don't like any of the rules.[/QUOTE]I printed this out and followed it the the "T". After I had eliminated all that did not fit the criteria there was only 1 girl left. Just as I was about to grab her in swooped Brad Pitt and swept her off her feet. Fuck Brad Pitt! So I headed off to soi 24/1, broke all the rules, grabbed a very cute shorty who was a great little fuck for my 2500/90 minute session. She was also impressed that I had just seen Brad Pitt. Fuck that guy!

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2358074]3. I have a NO TAXI RULE. I'm slim and in good shape so this rule works for me. It may not be appropriate for others who have trouble handling the Bangkok heat. I usually get a hotel a ten minute walk away from Thermae Cafe. And that is what I tell the girl. If the girl insists on a taxi, then she is out. She will not provide good service if a ten minute walk is too much for her. They are all younger than me. If there is a stunner that you really want and she insists on getting a stuffy old room upstairs, then I guess you don't have much choice.
.[/QUOTE]With all your rules (or even half of them), I think you ruled out all of the girls. I have to strongly disagree with the taxi one. No Thais want to walk 10 minutes on uneven pavements in high heels. Also Bangkok has bad weather, both heat and pouring with rain. Oh I forgot, she failed the height rule so has tall heels, and her shoes are killing her. Flat shoes are for the LBs outside.

You will only get desperate girls, but perhaps that is good. I fear the ones willing to make a long walk will be the ugly ones.

I think it may be reasonable on occasions for girl walking 200 metres, but not much more.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2358341]No Thais want to walk 10 minutes on uneven pavements in high heels. Also Bangkok has bad weather, both heat and pouring with rain.

I think it may be reasonable on occasions for girl walking 200 metres, but not much more.[/QUOTE]I think you can make that all Asians. I used to live in Singapore and always laughed when I used the app for the train or bus. You can select how far you are willing to walk to the stop or station but the maximum is 600 m. After that they take a taxi.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2358074]Disclaimer: These rules are for reading / entertainment purposes only. They are not to be taken seriously. What works for me may not work for you. What I want may not be what you want. So there is no need to go Waco, Texas if you don't like any of the rules.
SNIP
P.S. Look up Waco massacre, if curious about the Waco, Texas comment.[/QUOTE]As a monger who hunted in Thermae in "the good old days" this post was indeed entertaining. I rarely go there now as it has changed so much. I too am left wondering how many candidates remain for you after all the rules are applied. I think it is good to know what you want. I'm guessing that many BMs here, like me, would be interested in a follow on report about your success ratio there. For my own criteria I had to wonder if the chemistry component is not a factor for you or was just not mentioned. Anyway, it was an interesting read and I think you can tell if you spend much time on this board that you are never very far from Waco.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2358533]As a monger who hunted in Thermae in "the good old days" this post was indeed entertaining..[/QUOTE]That's about all its worth. Entertainment. Bad entertainment but entertainment none the less. Not even a smidgen of reality.

My rule is if she looks good take her. She will perform to my satisfaction, they always do. Maybe 'because I don't overthink. Or argue over 100 baht. Wearing clean clothes, smiling, smelling good, feeling bold helps too, as does the fact that I am a regular.

I'll be high fiving my bud in the Thermae (the little old white haired dude that sens the boys to the bar) in a week. I'll be sure to follow my rule until I leave in April.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2358660]
My rule is if she looks good take her. She will perform to my satisfaction, they always do. Maybe 'because I don't overthink. Or argue over 100 baht. Wearing clean clothes, smiling, smelling good, feeling bold helps too, as does the fact that I am a regular.
[/QUOTE]For me, they nearly always don't perform. Too many are dick scared or Farang scared, too many have restrictions, and I never argue over price. I just don't take girls where I don't think she is worth it, normally.

I have not had a great performing girl from the Thermae for years. Maybe the odd one was semi-acceptable but not worth repeating. Not even easy to get my first choice girl. Most of those knock me back, start talking about Farang surcharge, or were already snapped up by a Jap very fast.

I have better luck with the girls on Soi 4 who are preferring Farangs (even there is easy to choose wrongly). Just unfortunate that most Soi 4 girls are not doable. However less money wasted if make the wrong choice. The big danger is girls with disaster bellies or looking for a 30 min quickie. This is the same at both Thermae and Soi 4, however Soi 4 probably has a bigger chance to encounter a disaster body.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2358766]For me, they nearly always don't perform. Too many are dick scared or Farang scared[/QUOTE]Move to Africa. Those chicks are hot, cheap, and they can easily handle a horse dick with no complaints. You are in the wrong country.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2358074]Disclaimer: These rules are for reading / entertainment purposes only. They are not to be taken seriously. What works for me may not work for you. What I want may not be what you want. So there is no need to go Waco, Texas if you don't like any of the rules.

Rule 1. If the girl is glued to her cellphone, she is out. Out means eliminated.

2. If the girl is always touching her hair, she is out. She is egocentric and therefore will not provide good service.

3. I have a NO TAXI RULE. I'm slim and in good shape so this rule works for me. It may not be appropriate for others who have trouble handling the Bangkok heat. I usually get a hotel a ten minute walk away from Thermae Cafe. And that is what I tell the girl. If the girl insists on a taxi, then she is out. She will not provide good service if a ten minute walk is too much for her. They are all younger than me. If there is a stunner that you really want and she insists on getting a stuffy old room upstairs, then I guess you don't have much choice...[/QUOTE]R. O. D.