Obervations. Grace Hotel What Happened? Patpong. Area outside Nana Plaza
I returned recently from a trip to BKK. One thing I noticed which was glaring was the Grace Hotel. It used to be that the Grace Hotel used to be packed full of women (mostly larger women albeit) sitting in the coffee shop lounge area across from the bowling alley. When I was recently there I was shocked to see how empty the place was, even on weekend nights? Did something happen or did these girls move to a different location?
Also noticed that Patpong was extremely toned down. Before it was a bar area with a night bizarre, not it's a night bizarre that just happens to have a few bars. I managed to walk through to whole area without getting any bar touts. Wow.
Also, the area right outside of Nana plaza seems to be more crazy then ever. I was approached more aggressively by more girls and lady boys offering a greater variety of things on the menu in a very blatant, no nonsense way than I remembered being the case the last time I had visited. Prices seemed to be between $1000 to $1500 for ST. Does this sound about right?
Finally, I think the cheapest freelancer price was to be found in Korat. Is this still the case, and if so how much. Many thanks to our more seasoned campaigners for their help and comments.
Voodoo Go-Go Bar Nana Plaza
Blast from the past. Strolling through Nana Plaza tonight I noticed a "new" go-go bar on the ground level far left corner by the name of Voodoo. Have I missed this announcement here or am I the first? I did a search on this thread and only one reference to that name came up from late last year when it was mentioned in a recollection from 20 years ago.
Well, I guess it is back. At least the name is back. Girl I bought a LD for said it has been open for 3 weeks already.
Anyway, I popped in at around 9:30 pm and what do ya know but 5 of the 15 girls on stage were stark raving naked except for their high heels. Highly unusual for a Nana Plaza bar. I did not stay long enough to see if the next 15 dancers at the set change would get totally naked. But about half of them went topless right away.
I would say mostly 6's and 7's on stage. Maybe a couple more doable than the rest. I noticed 2-3 LBs, but none of the naked ones were LBs.
The other nice thing I noticed was maybe only 2 or 3 girls in the place showed signs of sillicones. And two of those might have been LBs. Otherwise, there was a refreshing array of natural breasts on display.
Sorry to say I did not inquire about barfine and asking prices. I was really just passing through on my way to another destination. But I saw no reason to expect those things to be more or less than the usual for Nana Plaza. But who knows. LDs were 175 baht I think.
Grace hotel and I may have made the wrong decision
Ok so I have been back from BKK after my trip for some fun.
First: about Grace hotel I do agree with another thread about the quality / quantity at Grace hotel. It used to be lined with women not only in the coffee shop but outside on the walkway as well. My trip this time there were very few women in the coffee shop and they were on the low quality side. Outside much less and mostly non-Thai women. Not so long ago you could find a gem in amongst the crowd. It has changed quite a bit. Never was a Patpong scouter so I don't know much about it. However the Nana disco seems to be closed.
Second: I think I made a mistake, two Saturday's ago I was walking down Suk near Thermae café just walking taking in the sights when near the Sheraton hotel I bumped into a person. Very Beautiful, very sexy, nice smile nice body simply a 9. 9/10. So I decided to speak with her, now I am not Caucasian, and for those who lived in Bangkok will understand. But I decided to try and speak with her. And to my surprise she responded and can speak English well. She said that she works in the café, not sure as a worker or a special worker and that she was going home, it was about 2:30 pm. Anyway I asked and got 2. 5 K for short time. Now this is way above going rate, so I said too much. Then she said 2 K but I still declined. After going to my hotel I wondered (and still do) if that was the right decision. It was 2. 5 times the going rate but with my luck I don't often bump into 9's in my life. But I also considered that in Jakarta when you are quoted 2. 5 times the price you decline and move on.
I still think about that encounter to this day, perhaps it would have been worth it. Hopefully now it will only be a memory.