Printable View
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1798322][QUOTE=HessenBub;1798279]I don't see a situation coming with no BBBJ in the clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]
HB, for us English speakers, using double negatives can be confusing. With the double negative you used, your statement literally translated means that the law is dead and we can all rejoice.
[/QUOTE]Although I see the logic, but meaning completely changes when you double negate. "I see a situation coming with BBBJ in the clubs. " It's the word "coming."
I think I already admitted that I used to take CBJs a few years ago, when I first started going down (up? This path. On my visits to Spain or early visits to the FKK land, for example. Then I discovered the joys of BBBJ and out the window went my inhibitions and apprehensions, and I am now hooked on BBBJ.
That said, if Germany did somehow ban BBBJ and able to enforce the ban AND make it stick (lord knows how, though), I have to say, I will still prefer the FKK clubs relative to other places. Unless they replicate the total FKK experience in a different country, that is easy to travel to, and in similar numbers. In my view, the overall experience of FKK clubs, the ease of traveling to Germany and the various business things which give enough excuses to travel to Germany, the variety of clubs and the easy access, the lack of cheating, thuggery and other unsanitary things one might associate with such clubs in other places; all make this a great enough experience, that I would stay with Fkks even if the ban comes. I hope it does not, however.
I suspect BBBJ will still be available as an extra. CIM has been an extra anyway so for mongers who want CIM little will change.
Those who don't ask for BBBJ (who don't care either way) like myself may be the real losers because girls will insist of providing BBBJ as an extra, and if you turn them down they will feel like they're losing money. As things are, not caring either way what blow-job I get, I'm still welcome as a 50-euro quickie-artist.
At least in places where the ban is largerly circumvented behind closed doors, such a ban would de facto add 30 euros (or 20) to the standard rate. The official basic rate would stay at 50 euros but the unspoken basic rate would jump to 70-80 euros.
IF BBBJ become extra. I would propably prefer just going to Switzerland. I have yet to discover Globe this month, but if it is what I have been told it is not by just mongers, but by girls who works there, I will love such club.
And IF BBBJ become extra in Germany. I will not see point in going to German FKK where I got to negotiate to get good service and now I got to pay for BBBJ? HMM make me think wisely then Unless extra BBBJ is like 10 Euro or something. We are so used to BBBJ that I may seek for alternate place.
All speculation. Let's wait and see.
HB.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1798328]The draft is still on discussion and maybe the parties lets check if this law needs also approval of the federal judge and not only by the Lower House of Paliament. So that needs maybe time and if result is that law needs also approval of the federal judge than gouvernment has a problem because NRW has a coalition with the Green and NRW Green refuse the law.
In any case new law can't come effect on January 1st, 2016 because after approval in Lower House of Parliament the new law must be first published at the German Federal Gazette and after this it needs additional 6 month before the law becomes effective. So earliest day to become effective for new law July 1st, 2016 but probably later.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1798338]I guess Craiova answered your question. I was exactly trying to say what I posted: I do not think that we will come to a situation where BBBJ is not available anymore in FKK clubs. Maybe the law will pass, maybe not, maybe parts of it will. But I don't see how a BBBJ-ban will be enforced. See Bavaria, see Saarland. Slightly different situation but similar. And BBBJ is standard in all the FKK clubs there. Just my 2 cents on this.
HB.[/QUOTE]Thank you gentlemen for clarifying. Good information. Thank you for filling in the blanks.
I've been reading about how a bill becomes a law in Germany ([URL]http://goo.gl/kWiAI[/URL]). Not as straightforward in Germany as in the States it would seem. Germans have to make it more complicated I suppose.
So, it sounds like you are saying that the bill passed out of the Bundesrat, and now it is waiting to be passed by the Bundestag. Is that correct? Anyone have any predictions as to whether the bill is likely to be passed by the Bundestag? Does the Bundestag typically just affirm everything that the Budesrat passes?
The previous gloom and doom posts made it sound like the law was pretty much a done deal and was mostly inevitable. But now, it seems that we're hearing that it isn't a law yet at all but rather just a bill that has not even been passed by both houses of the German legislature.
Surely such a ban if brought into being would be far more enforceable using undercover female officers from the Bundesnachrichtendienst (federal intelligence service) rather than male detectives?? Maybe I missed something. Oh well!! On an unrelated note PL is spot on with the pretty face criteria as that is always the deal sealer for me.
Here at ISG some writers (especially S&S) are very proud that they know so many girls at the clubs and they even show her posts to the girls and make no secret about their nick. Sorry but this is total BS, almost all the girls hate the forum writer they call them "Internet Wichser". And most of them don't even like positive posts. To be known by nick in club brings more drawbacks than advantage. And these guys mix up FKK clubs with Disneyland for adult guys, but it isn't especially behind the walls.
The one S even agreed here on ISG he can't write anymore negative (or even true?) because the girls known him. Fine no more words. And the other S even more a dreamer. He's so stupid writing about personal issues about girls like isn't free, gives money a guy and so on. First of all this guy knows nothing about this. And all the girls I know in clubs only laugh about S&S. But this second new S is so stupid that he doesn't know what that mean what he writes. Just in case he would be right what he's writing (not very realistic but maybe. .) and he has right about that this girl is forced for this job and in case (what he probably still do) he still go in room with this girl than maybe in future after a new law will be in force he's doing a crime and he will end in jail because he's easy to identify. One good thing I hope he isn't allow there to write in internet anymore. LOL.
So of course posts in forums help us but every writer should be smart enough that no one can match his nick with a real person.
[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1798963]On an unrelated note PL is spot on with the pretty face criteria as that is always the deal sealer for me.[/QUOTE]I would expect everybody in general is looking for somebody attractive. People either pay more attention to body or face. Who looks pretty many not be for some others. But, there is no denying that some girls are more commonly regarded as pretty. Whether it be their body being of the right silhouette and/or having a highly appealing face. You get a better sense your taste, and difference from others when run into those that have different ideals in female optics.
When I say pretty face, it's not so meaningful since what I find pretty may not be for the next guy. I certainly understand when people say pretty out of excitement that cannot be contained. LOL. I say knock out if I spot a beauty that I lock on to like a target as soon as I lay eyes on her. Like I'm Maverick from TopGun ready to pull the trigger. Haha. Those moments are priceless, and the greatest for me. When it happens one after another, it's a great day indeed.
My ideal: Color hair doesn't matter, and I guess I may steer toward blonds if looking authentic. Face is of course has most weight, but eyes particularly is the most important facial feature for me. Noticeable contrast from pupils to iris of the eyes typically blue or green eyes have, but not always. Height tall preferred like 173-180. Bees to Cee cups, but Bee+ seems to be not too excessive or lacking. Feminine hips, not bony, so fat gathered around there that naturally happens to females. So, when I say curvy, meaning rounded around the hips. And ass should be ample, not excessive with curvature on the hips and ass in sync. And flat declined pelvis area or caving in as going down which pushes the ass back a bit(or angled). Slim overall besides of course the hips and the ass where the curvature features lie. Doesn't matter hue of the skin, tanned or not as long as not a albino. LOL. Oh yeah, not teeny or excessively GND looking, but under 25.
Curious what other people's ideal looks are? Post some pictures if any hotties have in mind.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1799077]Here at ISG some writers (especially S&S) ...[/QUOTE]As my nick ShoesAndSocks is sometimes abbreviated to S&S, perhaps you could use a clearer method to refer to what appears to be two people.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1799041]True.
140 chf is about 120 euro, so it is merely double the price and even at Artemis it most of times require one hour session to get proper service and not even sometimes, so if globe Zurich guarantee that for 140 chf /120 euro, then hell yeah it is worth it.
I will find out this month.[/QUOTE]Euro is 1.07 USD currently.
It's 130.2 Euro for 140 CHF currently. Euro has dropped in value. What you should check is the Yen if you base off that.
When I attended Globe was back in May 2014, 140 CHF translated in to 156.8 USD(and 114.52EUR). Now it's parity. Vive in Spain will be 110 EUR, so that will be 117.7 USD. Both still expensive compared to DE (53.5 USD currently, hope to get to parity, atleast when I'm in DE), although Vive being slightly less.
I'll see if I will open up my wallet at Vive. I'll look at other places in Madrid too. There are lower priced options, but not as low as DE of course.
Peak Euro was 1.39/USD in Mar 2014. That was 69.5USD in DE back then. All these values are for half hour.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1799077]Here at ISG some writers (especially S&S) are very proud that they know so many girls at the clubs and they even show her posts to the girls and make no secret about their nick. Sorry but this is total BS, almost all the girls hate the forum writer they call them "Internet Wichser". And most of them don't even like positive posts. To be known by nick in club brings more drawbacks than advantage. And these guys mix up FKK clubs with Disneyland for adult guys, but it isn't especially behind the walls.
The one S even agreed here on ISG he can't write anymore negative (or even true?) because the girls known him. Fine no more words. And the other S even more a dreamer. He's so stupid writing about personal issues about girls like isn't free, gives money a guy and so on. First of all this guy knows nothing about this. And all the girls I know in clubs only laugh about S&S. But this second new S is so stupid that he doesn't know what that mean what he writes. Just in case he would be right what he's writing (not very realistic but maybe. .) and he has right about that this girl is forced for this job and in case (what he probably still do) he still go in room with this girl than maybe in future after a new law will be in force he's doing a crime and he will end in jail because he's easy to identify. One good thing I hope he isn't allow there to write in internet anymore. LOL.
So of course posts in forums help us but every writer should be smart enough that no one can match his nick with a real person.[/QUOTE]What we want is girls. Apparently girls are beginning to understand that this guy is stupid and avoid him. We can let write him eternal bullshit that will aggravate his reputation again. During this time we have a fun with the girls in peace of mind.
Probably it; s not the right place to say, but fuck ISIS, they killed one of my friends in Bataclan! Fuck.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1799077]Here at ISG some writers (especially S&S) are very proud that they know so many girls at the clubs and they even show her posts to the girls and make no secret about their nick. Sorry but this is total BS, almost all the girls hate the forum writer they call them "Internet Wichser". And most of them don't even like positive posts. To be known by nick in club brings more drawbacks than advantage. And these guys mix up FKK clubs with Disneyland for adult guys, but it isn't especially behind the walls.[/QUOTE]Would be nice if your English was better. Who shows posts to the girl? Not me. I don't raise topic of the forum with girls. I do write negative posts, but with limits. I am not a naturally very negative personality, so I don't need it. I don't tell them my handle. Most work it out for themselves or by gossip, some of which comes unfortunately from posters.
I don't have a lot of problems since becoming well "known" at Oase, and by selected Sharks girls. Maybe just one or two rejections.
Some of us believe its a very useful service to list girls attending. I would go to another forum just to read the lists and find out who is there. Perhaps you don't need lists and never read them. However others looking for specific girls do use them. I don't like to collect girl's phone numbers unless I know them quite well, and there are very few of those indeed.
Is it something to be so proud of to know girl's name. It's already been shown to be no memory feat at all. Craiova seems proud to be a regular and expert at so many clubs and expert in use of condescending superior language and "put downs".
The useful message is that it is not a good idea to become known by the girls nor by forum posters like Craiova. There are vindictive forum members who specialise in outing other forum posters. I hope that Craiova is not one of them.
Why is so much of the forum, and I'm not referring particularly to this thread, taken up with petty point scoring and squabbling?. Disagreements can be handled in a way which is useful to other members, but insults are pointless.
When so much of the land bordering Europe is full of hatred and intolerance, with death of friends, as Faceless says, and strangers, why is there so much intolerance and nastiness within this forum.