Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2733127]I guess I'll respond one last time. One of the girls that offered to take care of me and I meet with regularly is from seeking and money never changed hands. I speak no Spanish and have minimal forigen experience. Again. I am really only responding for benefit of other new people. My experience might not be yours. But treating human beings like. Human beings goes a long way. It costs me nothing and has brought much happyness and sometimes the depraved sex that I like.

You sound like a simp. Your negative experience with women sounds like a you problem.[/QUOTE]Nothing a loong, hot shower won't take care of, jajaja. You seem to be able to translate him. Scary. Jajajaja.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2733122]But you can get a much better room in Laureles for the same money. Though you'd lose the advantage of location if you're spending most of your time in Centro. I personally would rather do the commute.[/QUOTE]I agree you can definitely get better value for your money in Laureles in terms of accommodations and I like a lot of restaurants in the Laureles area. I just used Nutibara as an example because the bus stops right near it from the airpot, has an ATM, restaurant in and around the hotel. Plus the girs are right outside so while its not exactly a blackbeards / mansion / sosua its about as point and click as it gets for Medellin imo, which it appears the originally poster is in need of.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2733029]Not all of us grew up with a silver spoon in our mouth.[/QUOTE]He'd be doing well to purchase the mousetraps he mentioned, jaajaja.

I reinstituted my Ingore List, but I still get exposed to people on it when others quote them in their response. Joke's on me, I guess, jaja.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2732544]Hey JjBee, thanks for the compliment seor.

I know that you enjoy a good debate lol, however, I refrain from responding to clueless guys. This particular guy is on Kindergarten level, while though I'm a simple, normal guy, I have travelled the world, and have spent more than 20 years in S America, and speak fluent spanish and portuguese.

IMO, there is nothing wrong with helping out good people, deserving people, especially when you expect nothing in return.

Safe travels mi amigo. I'm in Santiago, Chile at the moment, having a cafe con leche, awaiting a nice Chilean muchacha who I met on my last visit here.[/QUOTE]You attack the guy with no other basis than his lack of writing skills. Maybe English isn't his first language. Or perhaps he is inebriated like many seem to be when posting here regardless of which side they take. But then you brag about "traveling the world" as if that gives you some kind of one up or expertise. But wait a sec, aren't you the guy who was on the other thread sticking up for hookers who ask for $ for the sick baby, while recommending that guys send it in hopes of a great fuck later? It's a shame to spend so much time and money on travel and remain so gullible, as you aren't the only foreigner she is sending this request to. And yes, over the drinks and drugs you paid for she is laughing at you with her friends and real boyfriend. Enjoy your coffee, now wake up and smell it if you dare. LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2733168]Same with the "okay brah. " Try just talking to people. [/QUOTE]It's lingo from a younger generation. Each has their own colloquialisms. There's no point in touching any of that as it has nothing to do with the issues under discussion.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2733168]Many of the guys here have experienced the benefits of establishing a deeper connection with the women they meet. However, it's not a requirement. The 3 F approach (find them, fuck them and forget them) works well.[/QUOTE]There's a middle ground between the casa or street quickie and the sucker that buys $600 Iphones, sends $ for the sick perro, deludes himself into thinking he has a girlfriend, or all of the above. With this third way you become familiar with a girl and develop a business relationship where each of you is more comfortable as you know what each other likes and expects during the time together. Yes they are treated like a human being while no delusions are embraced. Requests for expensive gifts and Western Unions are of course rejected. I typically have a few of these that I either met in casas, strip clubs, or on FB. If I get tired of them I move along as there are plenty of other choices.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2733609]There's no point in touching any of that as it has nothing to do with the issues under discussion.[/QUOTE]How utterly clueless? Of course, the Klunker who you tried to defend appears as soulless as you, but you can't just defend Klunker on your own, you have to attack two of the other more (way more than you) "respected" (okay Smurfer Dude, you got me) users here? Are you so delusional that you believe the average user here holds your opinion in some kind of regard?

Tell me really, what are you imagining is the slime trail you leave behind after a post like that? Particularly when juxtaposed to the rational posts you chose to attack? I am genuinely curious, does it feel like you made a worthwhile point? Are you kidding me? You are like the Klunker onto whom you have decided to hitch your wagon train. You look bad from the beginning and then after you post, you look worse.

Does it cross your mind even for a second that most of the feedback here from numerous different users toward Klunker has been overwhelmingly negative? For some unknown, irrational, biased, reason you singled out JuJuBee and Balbao to demonstrate your ineffectiveness.

Maybe you fancy yourself an "independent" thinker, I dunno, someone not afraid to go against popular opinion? I can think of another word that fits that definition especially in your case, starts with a capital "A" and ends with what results from the usual interaction between a shovel and dirt.

Your M. O. Is so blatantly obvious that it is truly sad. You perceive anyone who is not like you (last time I checked, people were avoiding wanting to be "pathetic") as not just different, but inferior or flawed, to cover your own insecurities and shattered ego. As always, classic denial and projection. You are the poster-boy for those defense mechanisms on the Web site. Accept your lot in life, take some responsibility for your existence being a direct result of the decisions you made over time, not others, and maybe you can find some peace. I doubt it.

Carry on as I know you will. Ignorance is bliss, they tell me. You seem to have cornered the market, there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2733168]The 3 F approach (find them, fuck them and forget them) works well.[/QUOTE]The 3 F approach brings back memories of High School.

And typically on Monday's the talk would be about how far how someone got with a new date. First base (kissing), second base (feeling her boobies), third base (finger banging) and finally fourth base, that's about what all of us here have been paying for here being in the "Pay-Pool".

And the girls back then had their own approach, being FUD, meaning Find them, Use Them, and Dump them.

The "Pay-Pool" is just so much easier.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2732646]If most of us had a knack for picking the right girls we would not be on ISG to begin with. I don't know what perspective you are thinking from, but many third world folks believe they can get more golden eggs or golden eggs faster, if the goose that is laying them is dead.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2733114]No truer words have been spoken.[/QUOTE]I have contempt for feminism for its victimizing females but I love it when women show themselves to be clever. One of the few women who said something crazy smart I have seen was on Shark Tank, Barbara Cochran, and I loved it. She said men want control, and they will do anything so long as they think they are in control even destroying the business. If you suck at making decisions about women, something I have admitted I am not good at, why not ask other women to evaluate your choice of women and listen to them like I did? Maybe you should try getting a few smart female friends you can trust and start listening as opposed to being a stupid control freak.

The stupid men here they think that they can control what other men pay for sex like that is going to happen. Again, that is man as stupid control freak.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2732613]And anyone who does not believe this probably did not watch Costa Rica over the last 25 years.[/QUOTE]That's a good point. If there's one newbie throwing ridiculous money at chicas, it likely won't have any effect on the market. But when that newbie reports it and other newbies read it and think that's the going rate, it most definitely can have an effect on the market.

Guys have a right to pay whatever they feel like. But at the same time, participants in this forum have a right to point out that the guy is paying over the going rate.

[QUOTE=Combo;2734681]That's a good point. If there's one newbie throwing ridiculous money at chicas, it likely won't have any effect on the market. But when that newbie reports it and other newbies read it and think that's the going rate, it most definitely can have an effect on the market.

Guys have a right to pay whatever they feel like. But at the same time, participants in this forum have a right to point out that the guy is paying over the going rate.[/QUOTE]People wished it worked as you described because then they would psychologically feel empowered, as though they have some control over price by what they and others pay, but that is delusional. The way price is determined in a free market is much more fair, equitable and preferable, as determined by the Law of Supply and Demand.

In your example, if the newbie's actions of "throwing ridiculous money at chicas" are enough to increase the NUMBER of people visiting a destination (not sure why that would happen) and supply cannot keep up, then the increased demand from the number of newbies (not what they pay) can drive up prices.

Guys here, there, or anywhere can "report" whatever they perceive about payment, but it will have no effect on price. As far as a "right" that is a misnomer since it serves no overall purpose. Sure, freedom of speech and all that. The problem is, a lot if not most of the guys here "reporting" what they feel are appropriate prices are doing so because they are under the delusion that the original payor and now themselves are somehow effecting price, presumably in their favor, when they are not.

If it's your best buddy and you feel he needs the help, that is a separate topic but again, will not ever effect the price other people pay, over time, in the long run. No one can control what any individual pays at any given time, which again, is why it is a waste of time to "report" it.

Mongers who don't understand this are pretending to know more than a theory that became a law and won the Nobel Prize in economics over 100 years ago (I didn't check dates, feel free) and has never been proven wrong since. Do you know anyone here that smart? I don't.

In your example, if the supply and demand equilibrium point does not shift, then other chicas will simply undercut what you are calling the "going rate" to keep the price stable. Payment does not determine price in a free market. Not now, not ever.

Forget about payment and the final price when the guy in your example "makes it rain". Instead, look at the number of gringos / newbies / tourists in the market, how it changes over time, and does supply (putas / wet holes / chicas) adjust to this change or not? You are on the edge of understanding the concept, actually the "Law" of Supply and Demand, but you are not there, yet. Keep trying, don't give up. Once you "get it", it's one of those economic concepts that will open your eyes in many different ways that you can use in life.

[QUOTE=Combo;2734681]Guys have a right to pay whatever they feel like. But at the same time, participants in this forum have a right to point out that the guy is paying over the going rate.[/QUOTE]I dunno. Whenever guys start talking about rights, I start to think about maybe hitting them with several quick lefts. With rights come responsibilities, such as to do minimal research. Mongering in Latin America pre-internet, while speaking Spanish, was considerably more advantageous than what's happening now. Granted, pre internet and pre cell phones, you had a hard time keeping in contact with your favorite hookers. But that was probably a good thing! But for we gringos who spoke Spanish, none of this internet / translator / forum shit is an improvement over forty years ago. It just enables the amateurs.

But sometime next month is my 50th anniversary of my first hooker, so I have seen quite a few changes over the years. And you can't fight change.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2733609]It's lingo from a younger generation. Each has their own colloquialisms. There's no point in touching any of that as it has nothing to do with the issues under discussion.[/QUOTE]No. It's not lingo from a younger generation. If so, he would be using it everywhere. He only used it when he was being insulting. Since the core issue is how to get useful information from others, being insulting is counterproductive.

[QUOTE]There's a middle ground between the casa or street quickie and the sucker that buys $600 Iphones, sends $ for the sick perro, deludes himself into thinking he has a girlfriend, or all of the above. With this third way you become familiar with a girl and develop a business relationship where each of you is more comfortable as you know what each other likes and expects during the time together. Yes they are treated like a human being while no delusions are embraced. Requests for expensive gifts and Western Unions are of course rejected. I typically have a few of these that I either met in casas, strip clubs, or on FB. If I get tired of them I move along as there are plenty of other choices.[/QUOTE]There are as many middle grounds as there are mongers. Over the years most mongers try different things until they settle into a routine. Although I appreciate you making my point that if you can afford to travel for sex you can afford to treat people right.

But let's skip all of that and focus on delusion.

When I say I have a girlfriend, where is the delusion? Is it because I think she loves me? If I had stated such a thing, it might be delusion, but unless you know her better than I do it's delusional to think you know.

Frankly, love isn't part of the equation. Love is a subjective response to a mix of emotional and physical stimuli. It's not quantifiable or dependable. I love (within my subjective definition) many people who I would never attempt to share housing with.

Is it delusional to think the current situation will last forever. Possibly. Someone intimately familiar with the arrangement might make an accurate prediction on its lifespan. Personally, I'm not a believer in relationships lasting forever. When it's time to move on, I move on.

Is it delusional to think she's exclusive to me? In this case not at all. Through my home security system I know when she comes and goes and when anyone enters. It helps that she knows only 2 people locally, both friends of mine and female.

The only thing left depends on whether her behavior is consistent with expected girlfriend behavior. Since I'm the only one here familiar with her behavior, anyone who believes they know is delusional.

Certainly there are many guys believing in something which exists only in their minds. I remember a fan of my old roommate, the webcam model. When he dug deep enough to find her private, only for family Instagram account he learned she had a boyfriend. All along he thought he was her boyfriend, although he had never made an attempt to meet her in person. He was devastated. Many others have a couple of dates with a hooker and believe she's in love, when she's just playing them. However, there are a few who find actual relationships.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2733594]You attack the guy with no other basis than his lack of writing skills. Maybe English isn't his first language. Or perhaps he is inebriated like many seem to be when posting here regardless of which side they take. But then you brag about "traveling the world" as if that gives you some kind of one up or expertise. But wait a sec, aren't you the guy who was on the other thread sticking up for hookers who ask for $ for the sick baby, while recommending that guys send it in hopes of a great fuck later? It's a shame to spend so much time and money on travel and remain so gullible, as you aren't the only foreigner she is sending this request to. And yes, over the drinks and drugs you paid for she is laughing at you with her friends and real boyfriend. Enjoy your coffee, now wake up and smell it if you dare. LOL.[/QUOTE]Say what? Lol.

You seem to be an angry, and jaded soul.

To debate you would be useless, plus I'm not good at them, Lol.

I do sincerely hope you find some sort of happiness in your jaded world.

I'll most likely ignore your angry posts from here on, but continue on if you must.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2734910]Say what? Lol.

You seem to be an angry, and jaded soul.

To debate you would be useless, plus I'm not good at them, Lol.

I do sincerely hope you find some sort of happiness in your jaded world.

I'll most likely ignore your angry posts from here on, but continue on if you must.[/QUOTE]Pauline is an angry bitter dude. I doubt he travels the world, maybe MDE.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2733456]He'd be doing well to purchase the mousetraps he mentioned, jaajaja.

I reinstituted my Ingore List, but I still get exposed to people on it when others quote them in their response. Joke's on me, I guess, jaja.[/QUOTE]LOL well I'll be there in 7 days so I guess I'll be on the lookout for some rats.