Been said a million times
But I'll say it again, never give money for a meet and greet! The only ones that ask for that are the pros who make a living off it and never see you again or the girls who have convinced themselves they aren't prostitutes but are in every other sense of the word. My greatest finds have never asked for anything for a meet. If someone does, I straight up tell them no. I'm (potentially) wasting my time as much as they're wasting theirs and I'm about 99.98% sure my time is more valuable than theirs. Any girl that asks me what I'm offering before we even meet is another red flag. Why would I know what I'd offer before I knew I if I even wanted to see her again? I do not gift the same for every girl, really depends on the girl and the situation.
I don't think you did anything wrong. The first girl was delusional and the second was a pro who has convinced herself she's not. That's not what most of us are looking for on SA.
FWIW, I've had very little luck with SA in Europe, I won't name the countries (DM me if you want to know) and none of them were Spain so I'm not going to contradict the posters of success there. But I did meet a Spanish girl in one of the countries for l straight sex, no date, no pretend anything so I believe the success stories.
I've found most of the desirable girls are looking for a long term / consistent thing which stacks the deck against you as a traveller.
[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2830496]I've been messaging girls on sa ahead of a trip. I have a few leads but sa is starting to feel like work when I know there are good options where I'm going. And I don't have to worry about my stuff in the hotel room. I had decent conversations with two different girls but both fizzled out when financial details came up. I know steve suggests not bringing it up directly but I feel like I wasted my time. The first one expected 3500 eur and said her only other arrangement had a 20 k monthly allowance.
The second gave me the "I'm not an escort and just because we're meeting I won't have sex but we can see how chemistry is" but asked for an allowance. I was tempted to offer her 100 eur even though I've never paid for meets before. I countered and said we could meet for a drink first and a date later in the week if the chemistry was good but she declined saying I was expecting sex. I told her yes, for an allowance that was my expectation but I was happy to meet for drinks without expectations. I asked her about previous arrangements and she expects allowance for the meet and then more if there's intimacy. Probably dodged one here. [/QUOTE]
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I've found most of the desirable girls are looking for a long term / consistent thing which stacks the deck against you as a traveller.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% with most of what you said but we differ on this point. I find pretty much ALL girls on SA are open to traveling daddy's. Even the ones saying they are looking for long term. I always acknowledge it up front like "I know you are looking for long term and totally respect that. But if you want a few nights of awesomeness in the meantime let's chat. " I'the say 90% of the time they bite. Or more correctly I see no difference in response rate and engagement between those that state long term only or even no PPM explicitly and those that don't.
AHH the memories. The blondes and the twins. It was real
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My grandparents bought a lot on a lake in Michigan in the 1950's for $300. ----- :-)
We then have dinner, and I saw a place with rotisserie chicken. Again, it is nothing fancy. I pay like $10 for five people to eat. It is simple. It is just chicken, arepas, and potatoes, but it was so fucking good and again your body is thanking you for eating it.
I look at the people and the women. Obesity is there but it is a fraction of what it is in the USA. The women have one kind of look to them but they were some amazing looking women in these country towns, and everyone was nice. I wonder to myself why the people are so thin and happy. Is it really because the people in the USA are so undisciplined or is it just because we have so much unhealthy and addictive shit put in our food? How happy can you be if you are morbidly overweight or obese?
When I was in Colombia, for sure there were the hooker types out for a buck but in no other country did I meet women who were really interested in me and not money. I even had one woman try to give me the money we agreed on back to me. Why were so many people in this country so much less materialistic than richer ones? And yeah, DF, I get Medellin is as materialistic as anyone in the world, but that is Medellin.
Yeah, the roads sucked. The internet sucked. The latest and greatest tech gizmos were not around, but does that really matter?
I agree that the USA is the best place to make a living, so I am not going to check out of the USA just yet, but something is fucked up when a nation as poor as Colombia seems to have people way more happy and healthy than we do.[/QUOTE]EXACTLY! I wish I was still living in Michigan on the beach where I grew up. NOW it's all mega mansions overlooking the Lake with Chi town elites all settled in for the summer. I refuse to go back to see the paradise I lived in. Don't want to ruin the memories. Ahh but I still love Colombia and those crazy winding and dangerous mountainous back roads with awesome blackberry & leche shakes overlooking Medellin with live music and yes roasted on the stick chickens.
But I digress the world seems too much hype and not enough reality. I head for Brazil this September and wonder. Steve, Elvis? I am thinking Rio and exploring the coastline. I land in Sampa but have no SA connections there (are there any?) and P4 P, local clinics Scandallo are not my style. The girls could be Gisele bendchen look a likes but will they be like the girls I know in Bogota, Medellin? Nada. I don't think there will be anything more than great sex at a certain cost. So I will enjoy Rio instead. I might turn on SA before the trip. SA / Colombia gave me a different perspective. Making Love has got to mean something these days. I know some of you have already been to Sao. Done SA in Brazil. Are there some real.
GFE quality girls there to hang out with besides fuck? Am I crazy? I keep asking myself if I shouldn't revisit the people / places I already know? LOL.