Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JustTK;2576105]
If you like a girl and want to support her bcos she needs help, what's wrong with that? Isn't that how all relationships work?
[/QUOTE]I think that sentence says everything that is wrong with the situation. Is anyone really solely motivated to send money to a chica because she needs help? Would they do the same for a chica who was not in the least bit attractive. No I don't thinks so. There is no reality in that ideal. I have nothing against the ideal but no its not happening. There may be guys who see it as a dual motivation, partly motivated by the ideal that she needs help and partially by wanting to fuck her but if she stops fucking him is he still going to give her money?

Bottom line is that unless you met the chica and had some non transactional relationship with her first before the ideal of sending her money, then you are in a relationship with the chica based on money. If you do not spell out to her what your expectations are then you should not have any expectations (and those expectations should be realistic, if you think she is going to stay chaste while you are not around, that is naïve) but expecting her to spend all her time with you while you are in town is reasonable. She is like a timeshare that you make lease payments on.

Anyone who gets involved on any level with a chica that is a prepago and then gets upset at any point down the road that she fucked some other guy is living out Aesop's Fable about the Farmer who revived a freezing viper back to life by sticking it in his coat to warm it, and when the viper got reinvigorated it bit the farmer. Because that is its nature. I am not saying that chicas are snakes, some of them are really sweet, but it is their nature to fuck other guys, and if anyone expects anything else or get their feelings hurt then they have totally misjudged the nature of the situation.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2575997]You would think that an owner could dictate who can come and go into an apartment they own. But all buildings have the equivalent of homeowners associations, along with rules that all owners must abide by. And the enforcers of these rules at time's besides the rental agencies are the porteros (guards) in the building. In some buildings there are fines levied against the owners for repeatedly violating the rules such as noise. Colombia is not like the USA when it comes to property, especially apartments.[/QUOTE]This is why I decided not to buy in a building in Medellin but bought a house instead. No stupid people or rules to deal with so far.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576004]Just my opinion. The sugar daddy arrangement is not for the benefit of the sugar daddy. How could it be? Where's the benefit of paying for something for 6 months that you only get to use for 6 days? Even if you had the ability to keep the girl locked down except when she's with you, how do you benefit?

I've got no problem with sending money, but the only real benefit for the sender is the same warm fuzzy feeling you might get from feeding the homeless or any other act of charity. You're not buying loyalty, or real emotion.[/QUOTE]So with this comment.

Are some men really sending these SA girls money on a monthly basis? This is absurd and anyone who does this deserves a ban from Colombia, a ban from this forum, have his penis removed and swapped for a vagina. Or replace it with a blank space with a thumbs down tattoo LOL.

Seriously fellas. When you join SA, it does state no PPM (pay per meet) as a way to discourage prostitution on the site as they don't want to get shut down. Hence why most people do Monthly / Weekly allowances. But you can make arrangements without buying into a subscription. A monthly allowance is popular in the states, but most guys who does this see the girl regularly. But overseas fellas, really? Unless you live there and make plan to see her like twice a week, three times a week, then why would you do this and what's the upside? Charity or just cause you can?. Nuff said. Like someone else wrote earlier no wonder why some join this site. The guidance seekers, the leachers, as Simps will always be Simps. I can't get surprised enough on what men do in desperation for affection, in this case fake affection from women who share themselves everywhere, probably kissing you with my sperm still leaking on side of her lips.

Yeah, mom looks pretty good. And better than ever since she lost weight in the last year. I had always heard that she would bang for money, but never got in a position to try. Had her in the jacuzzi with Enlly a few times, but that's as far as it went. Too bad. Enlly is very good about never posting fotos with gringos. Keeping it tight like that allows her to have multiple sugars or boyfriends and bring in money from multiple sources.

I suspect Leidy Barone and AleXandra are the same, but are a little more premium.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2575880]I still have her on Instagram and both of her accounts on Facebook. I haven't paid attention but can't remember ever seeing a picture of her with a gringo.

He is probably one of many sugar daddies or she is at least still working behind her sugar daddy's back.

When I met her mum it did make me think of many beautiful, disgusting scenarios.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576134]You seem to have completely missed the point.

Helping someone out and being a sugar daddy are 2 completely unrelated things. I help people out all the time, in many different ways, not only by giving them money. There's no expectation of anything in return. I'm helping the person out simply because I want to help them, not because they will like me, or do something to benefit me.

Being a sugar daddy is the act of buying something. You're buying access, a certain type of behavior, certain favors. If the money stops the arrangement stops. If the other person isn't fulfilling their end of the bargain, the money stops, at least in an ideal world. Unfortunately, many guys feel that if they pour more money in, things will somehow improve.

To further confuse things you want to toss in "successful relationship" as a red herring? Normal relationships don't begin with "how much will I have to pay you to fuck me?" Nor do they continue with "how much do you need each month to be willing to keep fucking me?

Imagine this. Imagine paying every month to rent a car that you can have free use of whenever you're in Medellin. Every month you pay the maintenance, insurance and parking for the car. If anything unexpected comes up, you have to pay more. One thing, you don't own the car..[/QUOTE]Haven't been on here in a minute. Sugar daddy. Charity. Whatever hardship or problem they are going through sounds like a personal problem. Not mine. They can starve for all I care. Yet somehow these broads are like roaches surviving a nuclear bomb because no matter how many times you hear a btch has no milk to feed her baby or she hasn't eaten in days. Somehow months later this btch still breathing and asking for assistance from her gringo cajeros. Any guy that thinks otherwise in my opinion es un flojo. Idk if we're allowed to use the s word. From what I've seen personally and from experiences from many others is that no matter how many times you help them with their problems when you actually have an issue yourself they will be no where to be found. And yah yah there are exceptions but let's face it with all these guys bringing over that westernized pedestalizing mentality most look at gringos as un cajero. If you think you are special and that your game is that tight or that you found yourself that unicorn then hey carry on with whatever helps you sleep at night. But to me you are either paying for it hourly in person or your supporting a puta overseas while one of us keeps her warm for you. Or worse your flying these broads to you. Also, I know some on this board like to pretend they aren't doing the exact things they are admonishing. Unless you bagging these thots for free you got nothing to brag about.

So true. They would never admit that all of the nice places they good, food they eat, and drinks they drink are paid for by gringos. It's one big fantasy and these girls are always trying to one up the other. Very competitive. And "boyfriends" are never disclosed.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576082]I just recently spent over 3 days with 3 of 4 different girls (which ones were with me varied). We went to 3 different places that provided a lot of photo opportunities. A lot of pictures were taken, including a lot of pictures of me. Not one single picture of me ended up in any of their Facebook or Instagram posts. No mention, no tags, nothing, which is exactly what I expected.

We're just the ones who provide them the opportunity to take all those great photos, but that's as far as our usefulness goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2576161]Are some men really sending these SA girls money on a monthly basis? This is absurd and anyone who does this deserves a ban from Colombia, a ban from this forum,[/QUOTE]Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

A hooker/porn chick in the golden age of Rio named Lebara used to take guys to her house a couple of hours away in Petropolis. My buddy went and said there was a stack of Western Union papers on top of a brand new China cabinet some guy just bought. Her mom grabbed the stack and asked her if my buddy knew how to fill the form out so he could send money too.

A buddy in the States is from Thailand. He was sending money back to his hometown to his girlfriend that turns out had another boyfriend. We could go on forever with these sending money stories that have been being created since the dawn of man being able to send money to women. I do not get it myself, but it always has been and always will continue to be a thing.

P. S. 1. I know gay guys that do the same shit, so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. 2. I just googled Lebara and some old pictures came up.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2576175]Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

A hooker/porn chick in the golden age of Rio named Lebara used to take guys to her house a couple of hours away in Petropolis. My buddy went and said there was a stack of Western Union papers on top of a brand new China cabinet some guy just bought. Her mom grabbed the stack and asked her if my buddy knew how to fill the form out so he could send money too.

A buddy in the States is from Thailand. He was sending money back to his hometown to his girlfriend that turns out had another boyfriend. We could go on forever with these sending money stories that have been being created since the dawn of man being able to send money to women. I do not get it myself, but it always has been and always will continue to be a thing.

P. S. 1. I know gay guys that do the same shit, so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. 2. I just googled Lebara and some old pictures came up.[/QUOTE]I have never (regrettably) been to Colombia, and at my age it's not likely I'll ever go. I do, however, live in the Philippines where identical scenarios to that described above, play out every day. There are lots of variations on the theme, and they never fail to attract the gullible. I cannot recall how many times I have warned newbies here that they are being played, and in every case, I've been ignored, typically provoking a response such as: "I hear what you're saying, and I appreciate it, but this girl is different. " It has gotten to the point where I've simply stopped trying to warn anyone. Maybe the tendency to fall for these scams is a universal willingness to engage in willing suspension of disbelief.

GE.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576082]A lot of pictures were taken, including a lot of pictures of me. Not one single picture of me ended up in any of their Facebook or Instagram posts. No mention, no tags, nothing, which is exactly what I expected.[/QUOTE]It is what you expected, but is it what you wanted? You say that as if you were hoping they would post you and mention you. Only if it was some platonic friend would I mind a chick posting and tagging me. Chicks that I have interest in or am in a relationship with I have never added as a friend on facebook. I look at it as something for me and my friends and acquaintances. To me adding a chick I am involved with to my facebook is like bringing her to guys' poker night.

[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2576104]Where can I go to get a test before the flight back to the US other than the airport? I saw someone posted [URL]https://cendiatra.com/.[/URL] Are there any others and can I set up an appointment fot them to come to my hotel or AirBnB?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I took an Uber late in the afternoon here, I get there in the pouring rain jump out and they wouldn't let me in without my passport, this was at 3 pm they close at 4 pm.

So I returned the next day at 3 pm with my passport, they said I would have to return in the morning for the printed results, I returned in the morning again without my passport.

And they didn't want to give me the results w / o my passport, I explained I would miss my flight, and they gave me the results.

They are right around the corner from Zandaly casa.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Centrolab[/URL]+I. P.S. / at 6. 254787,-75.5633598,15 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x0:0 x3813 b3 f6 c843 ee3 b!8 m2!3 d6. 254787!4 d-75.5633598.

Post-script bring your passport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2576175]Sorry brother. This is neither a Seeking Arrangement thing nor a Colombia thing. This is more a pussy over man thing.

A hooker/porn chick in the golden age of Rio named Lebara used to take guys to her house a couple of hours away in Petropolis. My buddy went and said there was a stack of Western Union papers on top of a brand new China cabinet some guy just bought. Her mom grabbed the stack and asked her if my buddy knew how to fill the form out so he could send money too.

A buddy in the States is from Thailand. He was sending money back to his hometown to his girlfriend that turns out had another boyfriend. We could go on forever with these sending money stories that have been being created since the dawn of man being able to send money to women. I do not get it myself, but it always has been and always will continue to be a thing.

P. S. 1. I know gay guys that do the same shit, so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. 2. I just googled Lebara and some old pictures came up.[/QUOTE]It's not even a pussy thing.

Webcams generate about $7 billion a year and strong growth is projected to continue for at least several more years. While there are plenty of webcam models who are selling pussy on the side, most of the successful ones never meet any of the guys who support them. These are women who are working 20-30 hours a week and pulling in $100 k annually and up. Each one of them has one or more guys who is spending well over $1000 monthly on them and who has done so for years. That money buys a few private photos and videos, along with some form of direct message contact, but rarely includes their actual phone or Whatsapp number. If they do give out a number, it's often one that's used purely for business.

What it doesn't buy is sex, or even a real date. One of my closest friends has been doing this for years, and in all that time, she's met one customer. He spent a few thousand dollars on a vacation and got to have lunch with her. And after 5 years, he's still spending money on her every time she's online.

What's going on is no different than your high school buddy who got married straight out of highschool and is still with the same woman. Most guys are looking for someone who makes them feel special. They dump money on strippers, hookers and webcam models because those women are professionals at making guys feel special. The guy who is still happily married after 30 or 40 years is no different.

It carries over in lots of areas. Waitresses, hairdressers, masseuses and so many more, if they can make their customers feel special, they make more money and the customers keep coming back.

If we're being honest, most of us have walked that road at some point in our life. Whether it was throwing gifts and attention at the highschool sweetheart, or making it rain at the strip club.

Some get over it and some never do.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2576134]If someone wants to maintain a sugar baby in Medellin, again, more power to them. The other mongers in Medellin will appreciate their girl having a better phone to send them pictures with, not to mention all the nice lingerie.[/QUOTE]I used to mess with a chick in Cali. I was going down and she asked me if I wanted to see her in a nurse outfit, schoolgirl outfit, or something else. Whatever I chose she showed up with. She told me she needed money to pay for the outfit.

We took a taxi for her to go to a job interview. She did not know the address of the place so she had to use my phone to check her email. She did not sign out. She went into the interview and I stayed outside reading her email.

She had gone to Bogota to see an Arab guy and had taken pictures in the hotel with him in the same outfit she was trying to get me to pay for. All I could do was laugh. We are still friends and still talk every now and then (she lives in London now), but I have never let her know about the stuff that I found out from reading her emails. To be fair, we did not have a monogamous relationship; it is just the fact of her trying to get me to pay for some shit she already had that she was acting like she bought especially for me.

Surgeried chick from Cali that I hit at Raudal today. Tons of people out today and yesterday. She would not let me take a picture in the room, so I snuck one when we got back outside. 50K for her 16K for the room. She said 500K for all night. Maybe she thought I was staying in Poblado.

[QUOTE=FrankLucas;2576156]This is why I decided not to buy in a building in Medellin but bought a house instead. No stupid people or rules to deal with so far.[/QUOTE]The only downside to a house versus an apartment is the added level of security for properties with Porteros. Nobody will be getting into the building that doesn't belong there, so for guys that can deal with the rules it makes sense.

As an example, I have a friend who bought an apartment in a small building in Laureles, with no security, and know he wishes he hadn't as he is reluctant to bring Chicas over, albeit a few, in fear someone might try to rob him.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2576175] so it is actually more than a man-pussy thing. [/QUOTE]My buddy's full time maid sends all her salary back to her boy friend who is building a house in her home town. My buddy keeps telling her to keep half for herself but she does not listen. Not sure how it will end up.