FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Rain City]I spent time with Alice from Budapest, Hungary. She was medium height (with heels, of course), with dark hair, dark eyes, and incredible bod. She said she was 21 yr old. I did pick up a bad vibe from her (the vibe processors and upsellers would give), but decided to spend time with her because she was so easy on the eyes. I ended up regretting not trusting my instinct.

No sooner than entering into the room, Alice started upselling.

One interesting thing Alice mentioned was that she used to work at World. She moved to Palace about 4 months ago because there were too many girls at World. My previous experience at World was simply lack of number of girls. The situation must have changed. If so, I would consider giving another chance to FKKW. [/QUOTE]

Yes, she was working at World before she came to Palace. I still think she is Romanian though. Did have a standard session with her at World. Upselling - no, she just asked if I want CIM. Which I did. A friend just had a good session with her at Palace.

And yes, there's too many girls at World - at least from their perspective and considering the number of men.

Palace doesn't take any girls under 21. That's a fact.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Palace doesn't take any girls under 21. That's a fact.

HB[/QUOTE]
May be true now. A few years ago it wasn't. Remember celbrating a favorite's 19th b-day. She showed me her real ID to prove.

I was in The Palace two weeks ago, a Sunday, on a short layover. Checked around and Alice seemed the most beautiful girl around. Went to the cinema. She appeared there and proposed service. I accepted and got OWOTC right there (Vanessa was being fucked nearby, on my line-of-vision, which improved the overall experience). Good service, totally worth the price (100 EUR).

Sometime later, as I was looking to a full service session with anal, I couldn't find in the premises anyone more promising than her, so I decided to pick her again. It was an one hour session (100 EUR) plus anal (+100 EUR) plus one extra she proposed and I accepted (anal stimulation with a vibrator during OWO; +50 EUR).

So, the girl did a total of 350 EUR from me that day. I did not find her lacking in any regard and I certainly did not find her a pusher/up-seller. My experience.

Me and my friend had dinner right after the session. During dinner, a girl appeared who was really DDG. We looked her in awe, but by then it was to late. After dinner, we had to rush to the airport.

All in all, FWIW, I recommend Alice.

Its been a while since I have been to Palace, so please forgive my comments if they are out of date.

My first experiences of upselling at Palace were terrible, and really destroyed the atmosphere of the sessions.

After a while I came to the view that given the tourist traffic and city centre location, the girls were never going to be happy with a standard €50 session. There were some honourable exceptions to this rule, but in the main most girls were unhappy at a payback of €50 /half hour.

I then began to pre-arrange sessions with girls I liked, including a negotiation of prices and extras, ensuring that the extras were clearly understood. The girls would then find me later in the evening, and were happy to give a good unpressured session, and were full on pre-session and during the waiting time for the room.

This approach did not always work, but for me it turned my evenings at Palace from from an unpleasant wrangle over upselling to a relaxed normal environment, but at the cost of at least €100 a pop.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Ebauche]May be true now. A few years ago it wasn't. Remember celbrating a favorite's 19th b-day. She showed me her real ID to prove.[/QUOTE]

Yep. That's an agreement with the Frankfurt authorities from 2007.

HB

My first visit to an FKK began as I entered Palace at 2pm Thursday and there were about 20-25 girls available and about 20 guys. The numbers of increased between 5pm-7pm to about 50 girls & 60 guys. The number of guys grew to about 80 and by 9pm getting a room without a delay became a small problem. Sometimes a 10-minute was required. In terms of quality I would consider a session with all bar 3 or 4 girls. A few girls were really stunning.

I thought I was sort of prepared for Palace as I quite happy to choose an optifuck knowing that I can always get lots from the session. However, the machine system. "lets go" followed by "lets get you an orgasm asap" followed by the girl developing "unhappiness that session reaches 20min" or "unhappiness that session actually involves 15min of sex" left me disenchanted.

I also detected "unhappiness" stemmed from the failure to upsell. I was not interested in extras and made that clear before agreeing to the session but either the girls thought they could persuade me or simply took the view that they were worth more than 50€ per session.

There is a mass psychology in play amongst the girls to process customers and get onto the next one asap. A good session for a girl lasts 15min. An OK session 20min. Longer than that then they are losing time to get the next customer. There does not seem to be any concept of girls properly relating to the customer and providing good service in order to generate repeat business. This is understandable (but not apprecieted by me) as the trade off between extra effort and time spent verses revenue generated by quick processing means later possibility is more sensible.

An observation about The Machine system is the ratio of girls to guys is misleading. Guys get processed quick 15-20min average then in nearly all cases they are not looking for a girl for the next hour or two. This means that even with 2 girls for 3 guys ratio. There are actually probably 3 girls hunting for 1 active guy who will go to the room even when Palace is busy.

As for visiting Palace again – probably not. Oase & World are very much superior.

Anisha. Lebonese. Long straight blackhair. High checkbones wearing black waspie. 165cm. I arrived wanting to take my time, see all the girls and look around the club before my first session. I managed to do this and was approached by a number of girls including Anisha who persistent hunting for customers. She had a great look and I was in the top 3 most attractive girls at the club. So after her 3rd approach to her I decided OK. I did get the wrong vibe from her but by now my blood was up and brain was not functioning. I asked to go to Kino. We went there for 5min then to room. No kissing. Session lasted 20min and she said "that was hard" (work). Covered BJ, no kissing. Hmmmm. My feeling after this session was I felt I had been processed.

Saskia. German. Darkish Blonde hair, fantastic model looking face and body. She is from Cologne usually works 2 days a week. 175cm. German Croat parents. She told me she is over 30 years old looks 25. BBBJ and kissing and several positions. Best session and would definitely return. Saskia is quite passive and I never saw her approach anyone so if you want her you will have to make the approach.

Laura. Spanish 28yrs, from Canaries lives in Madrid 170cm bouncy brunette, very well stacked enhanced boobs. I was attracted to her and thought about a future session with her when she first came into my view. Laura arrived, I told her just been with girl 15min ago, she was not put off and proceeded to touch me all over, she offered me her lips which I kissed, she said lets go now to the room, I said I wanted to but was not capable for some time. She then demanded 25 euros for the kiss & created a scene. After a few mins of discussion I decided to go to the room with her. CBJ. Good kisser. Actually quite good in the room. Laura is going back to Spain before Christmas and told me she will not be returning as she does not like Germany. Anyway, again felt like I had been processed.

Jessica. Hungary, Budapest. 21yrs, 165cm Long dark/black hair. Slim, lovely proportions, really pretty. BBBJ, nice session. But could see after 15min the wish in her eyes and face to finish asap.

Anna. Poland from Poznan. Mid-20s, 165cm. Brunette with blonde highlights. Told her truth that it will take time to make me cum as I had seen 4 girls beforehand. Her respond was OK it is fine. And held up her end of the bargain and put in effort. Session lasted 25min but can see it in her eyes and face she wanting me to finish asap.

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It seems like this is a typical YMMV situation. For those who had good sessions with Alice, I don't doubt that. If I was in the mood of CIM, Anal, or other services she wanted to add, I would have been fine. I tend to be put off by upsellers. Others may not be so affected?

There are still some girls who offer nice GFE at Palace (Bea from Thailand, just to name one). So I am sure I will continue to visit Palace. But I doubt that I will have another session with Alice, although she is probably one of the most beautiful girls at Palace now.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Yep. That's an agreement with the Frankfurt authorities from 2007.

HB[/QUOTE]
Makes sense. I think I had my fun with Jenny from Kassel (brunette, spinal tattoo, amazing natural breasts and ass, legs like engine pistons, perfect for very energetic tit-bouncing cowgirl) back in Jan '06.

Hi guys,

First time poster here but I have been lurking for quite a while. I am not new to mongering having enjoyed a few WG encounters from Manhattan Bar on TL in Shanghai and one drunken, mostly forgotten night in Dusseldorf's Dolce Vite. On home turf I am an SC man but while away I like to delve a little deeper in to the Hobby.

Recently I found myself with the opportunity for a short layover in Frankfurt so I perused the ISG German FKK thread and decided upon The Palace. I was arriving in FRA around Sunday noon and had to be out by 8 am Monday so decided to stay as close as possible. As luck would have it The Fleming Hotel is right next door to The Palace and fairly reasonably priced at 80 euro per night.

Having just read Talbot's report before posting, I could not agree more. As you will read I had three separate sessions and while each was enjoyable in various ways, all except my last one left something to be desired.

I got to the Palace around 3:30 pm and found that the entrance fee was 75 Euro ($110 us): fairly steep and I hesitated until I spied a slim, statuesque black girl sporting natural Ds walking about fully starkers. SOLD! Rules were explained that the 75 got you access until closing and that it was 50 Euro (US $75) for each lady for one half hour. Anything extra was all negotiable with the individual lady. I grabbed a robe and towel, collected my locker key and headed to the showers.

As it was a Sunday afternoon, I did not expect the selection of ladies to be too great. Wrong. This was my first time at The Palace and as I spent a few minutes exploring the facility I noticed several attractive Polish / Czech girls, a few Hispanic looking ladies and Bingo! Two gorgeous Thai girls. Their names were Terri and Nang. Terri is definitely "the bait" very sweet and seductive, invites me in to the Kino to watch some cinema and after a few minutes of mutual fondling she suggested asking her friend Nang to join us. By this time the little admiral had taken over and I had no choice but to agree. Unfortunately as the aggressive Nang joined the fray on that big comfy couch, things got a little heated and that same little admiral decided to fire an I'll advised shot over the bow! Yikes! Luckily I was able to hide it from them and politely excused myself to the men's room to clean up before heading straight to the rooms. In hindsight I should have stalled a few more minutes in the kino to give myself time to recover. Honestly, watching Terri and Nang administer a dual BBBJ was like watching two robins trying to drag a worm out of the earth.. Not exactly what I imagined. Unfortunately despite their best efforts I could not manage another SOG. I decided to try and make the best of it, enjoying some DFK, digits, DATY and Russian massage with both girls. Fairly pathetic I know especially since I was going to be on the hook for 100 euros. In the end I bowed out gracefully, thanked them for their time, dropped the money and headed back to the showers. Ugh

Licking my wounds I spent an hour or so alternating between the steam bath, sauna, whirlpool and showers. I spent a few minutes chatting up Vanessa, Russian with unbelievable man mades and a pornstar body that just rocked. I actually thought she might take pleasure in hurting me in some way if I did not take her up on the upsell options she offered so I pulled back and went in search of the chocolate beauty I spied earlier. Unable to locate her I did hook up with Pia, a lovely Dominican gal with generous fakes and a sweet ass. She knew little to no English and my Spanish sucks so after sharing a few sodas(no beer here and at 25 euros a shot for liquor I was tea totalling) we headed back to the rooms where I more than made up for my earlier short comings?. Pia was very much a GFE with excellent BBBJ skills and very responsive in multiple positions. She wanted 50 Euro extra for CIM but I decided to keep the hoody on and finish in traditional style. She was a little restrictive claiming here nipples were too sensitive to be played with and digits were definitely out. All in all I enjoyed myself but was not yet ready to retreat to the hotel.

After another lengthy sauna and shower I went to the restaurant and took part in the cafeteria style food service. Not 5 or even 3 star by any means but it was hot and filling. From there I went back to the reading room, hunkered down on one of the sofas and alternated between napping and reading for almost two hours.

By the time I returned to the main floor area it appeared as if several more girls had come on shift. It was 9:00 pm Sunday evening and I counted at least 30 girls at any one given time. There were two very attractive spinner type blondes, several Brazilian girls – Salome in particular really turned my crank but I was not yet ready to make my 3rd foray to the rooms. While I was sitting at the bar enjoying a few girls pole dancing on the upper stage, a stunning young blonde by the name of Gina approached me. I was sold as soon as her hand rode up my thigh. As with most of the other girls in the club she sported a set of bolt-ons but they were tastefully understated and perky, like an obedient pair of puppies. I told her this was my third go round and I was looking for a dirty PSE performance. Gina delivered in spades with lots of dirty talk, aggressive BBBJ, multiple positions and a shot over those lovely mams all for 60 Euro – yeah big spender tipped a whole 10.

Again I concur with Talbot that The Machine like atmosphere and 15 minute rush sessions were underwhelming. I enjoyed my time at The Palace but cannot help feeling that I overpaid ($430) for what I got. Next time I will venture out further to Oase.

Thanks for reading my first review on ISG. With trips sched for Vegas and Shanghai/Beijing in December I hope to post more.

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[QUOTE=Chuckle One]I enjoyed my time at The Palace but cannot help feeling that I overpaid ($430) for what I got. Next time I will venture out further to Oase.[/QUOTE]

You did not overpay (besides the 10 EUR tip ;) ). And prices for the girls at Oase are the same as at Palace, you will save 10 EUR entrance. But give Oase a try and then decide which club and girls you like better.

HB

I think that comparison battle will last for eternity. Both places have their good points and bad points - not even going to get into my own opinions at this time. But both are worth checking out. Then visit the one that suits you best more often.

The Palace definitely has some hot ladies, Oase usually has a decent to excellent line-up. Seems that all the Asian chicks are at Palace now. A couple of Thai chicks kept asking me if I wanted a massage. WTF? I told them if I wanted a good massage I'd be in Thailand - not at an FKK in Germany.

It's nice to have a choice. I like Berlin much more than I do Frankfurt on the Main, but going to the same FKK club all the time and having no other (FKK) options gets old after a while. Plus, there's the Bahnhofsvertiel "ghetto" scene and other naughty things to do. Sin O'plenty!!

- DSK

I've just read in the "Quotes of the Day" widget on my iGoogle desktop a phrase by Helen Keller: "College isn't the place to go for great ideas.", which made me think that "The Palace isn't the place to go for cheap fucks." Just a thought...

Went back to Palace again and this time, there were more girls than my last visit. I saw Olympia led Romanian clan. the Czech pair (their names escaped me, but they even dressed the same way when they checked into, which made me laugh), and the extremely hot Polish lady, Clara. Unfortunately, Clare only does a session with another Polish lady (cannot remember the name). I don't like this set menu thing. So I declined, but oh what a beauty she was.

I spotted my old friend Ava (Latvia). We got reacquainted and had a nice time. I still have a good time with my old friends, but it seems I haven't met any new GFE for quite some time. And I surely miss my old favorie (German Kim, Czech Natalie, German Jennifer, just to name a few). Where are they now? But more importantly, when can I have nice GFE with new girls at Palace?

Being the fact that i have not posted any reports on this forum in ages, i've decided to share my most recent experience at this wonderful club.

I arrived in Frankfurt on 11/18 and was Jet Lagged for two full days. So i've decided to chill out until i got used to the time change. Nevertheless, during my 9 day visit, i went to Palace on 4 occasions. However, i will only comment on my experiences during my last night there, 11/26. It was by far the best night i've had at Palace or any other place.

I arrived at Palace around 6:00PM and there were a decent amount of girls there. Since it was my last night in Frankfurt before heading back to US, i was going to make it count in a big way. Lucky for me, there were a lot of hot girls there that night. Out of my 4 visits to the club, Thursday seemed to be the best night as far as selection.

I had sessions from 7 ladies that night! i was on fire for sure :). I've had sessions from Cindy, Clara (twice), Chayenne, Sarah, Gina, Yuria, and one hot Romanian blonde (forgot her name but she was really hot!). I am not going to go into details but i can assure you that they were all great. However, Clara, Cindy, and Chayenne were amazing and the best of the bunch.

Cindy and Clara are both from Poland and they are stunning. They claim to be sisters but i'm not sure if they are just making it up. They both provided me with DFK, Positions, DATY, etc for 100 Euros each. They like to tag team together but i preferred them separate. Nevertheless, i did 2 sessions with Clara because she was just so gorgeous and gave the best DFK i've ever had in my life. Man! was she fu*ing amazing.

Chayenne was a stunning brunette from Germany with short hair. She has a very beautiful face and a slim body. She also has a set of enhanced boobs. I went with her for 100 Euros and she provided DFK, DATY, positions, etc. She gave the best blow job i've ever had. I honestly thought i was going to have a heart attack from it! LOL!. She was a great french kisser too. Her beautiful face and tongue made it all the more enjoyable.

I just returned back to the US and i am already having a hard time not missing Germany. I am already planning a trip back for next May. The Palace fu*ing rules. Germans and Europeans are so lucky to have places like this where a man can fulfill his sexual desires with beautiful women. Not in a million years would you find this in the US. It is a sexual prison over here.

Anyway, i hope you all enjoy my post and continue to explore the wonderful offerings of the FKK World.

Eddie

Hey Eddie,

Glad you had a good time, but why did you pay double price for "DFK, Positions, DATY, etc."? Standard fee for this is 50 euro in all FKK's, right (except for 60 at Artemis)? Even if you had the time of your life.

What did you get for your extra 50? Your report lacks a few details on this, and some additional input would be helpful for many of us.