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Viet FL
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2376750]Yes, I have taken a couple of the cute/pretty face Vietnamese girls down there for BBBJ+CIM in my room, 1,000 baht. I used to date a Vietnamese girl back in the usa, a blackjack dealer at Harrah's in Tahoe. She was crazy about BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, couldn't get enough of it. Loved her dearly. But I have not met a swallower among them here yet. For me, that is.[/QUOTE]I found a Viet FL in front of Hooters. Not bad, nice legs. She would not agree on no condom but was ok with everything else. I didn't ask for anal, not into the chocolate factory. I'm a sucker for great legs so I don't even remember the face.
Also exchanged some questions with the deft lady boss and she offered her side kick for 1200 baht, when I asked about no condom the price went up to 3500 baht. Goodbye.
All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.
RL.
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[QUOTE=RobertLong;2376794]
All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.
RL.[/QUOTE]A great place for value for money if don't need porno. Certainly I am doing better there than Thermae in value for money and luck for making the right choice, but more all naturals on Soi 4 and performance can be better with Farangs. I can pass quite easily, when only 3 or 4's are there, and that can be somewhat often. Pick the right time and right night and I found 3 hot girls last Saturday. Yes Thermae overall looks standard is much higher, but only the best 2 or 3 girls really matter. I think its easier to have a regular girl there and can reach an understanding that will pay a bit more for exceptional service, yet still be value. Getting a regular at Thermae would be a good idea too, for reliable service.
Soi 4 girls looks can be quite comparable with many MPs, with rather few girls looking doable, however maybe more all natural girls. Did not see the stunning deaf girl on Soi 4 lately at all. I fear she is gone.
I have not done any nor even met any Viets, and talked to them. Maybe they are not my spec really. Have met odd Bangkok person claiming to be Viet but actually not. I try a few Viet phrases on them. I can pronounce well enough for them to understand if they are really Viet. One I suspected was really from Myanmar. Still doubtless Viets are around, maybe I just never approached any. Its is useful I think to have a few basic phrases for each major SE Asian country, so can tell which language girls really speak, and how much they maybe bullshitting. Girls from Myanmar and Cambodia that spoke Thai, I could tell had strange pronunciation. One Laos girl though pronounces Thai so well that I can't really pick it, but her Thai spelling is atrocious, spelling in more like a Laos way.
My hairdresser was a Galiang, like Karen or other hilltribe from Myanmar, and I did not really understand a word of their language. That would be going too far. There are far too many minor languages.
I tried to learn some Vietnamese but found it much harder than Thai to come to grips with, or maybe the teacher was lousy to explain pronunciation. Easy to recognise though, its very short jerky sound. Not a pretty language except when spoken by sweet girls.
Are there a lot of Viet hookers in Thailand? It would not be legal for them to be working as hookers on the street. Don't they fear police raids?
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2376743]I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess. [/QUOTE]I am not one to put much stead in being conditioned or excited to imitate porn movies (which are clearly contrived and silly and either ugly or nasty). My taste in porn is strange no doubt, sex-art or X-art rather non nasty porn, no really extreme stuff. However really hot girls even those with golden brown skin can excite me. Latest one I watched was a light golden skinned black girl Julie Kay, and I liked her body even with a little too much landing trip. So my porn is just sexy, but not having anything in particular to imitate thet registers with me. Doubtless the guys' DATY technique looks mostly poor so would not learn anything from that. Then they put dicks half way in for the camera to see better, some / many girls have pussy stuffing to stop the dick going all the way, Ha ha. Its all a joke but can have a sexy illusion. I hate seeing condoms in porn, I guess that means something, hate Jap pixelation, and even fast forward during extended BBBJs which bore me. Watch little ass fucking preferring beautiful pussy. I am sure my taste is not normal with many guys seeming to like "extreme porn" and something denigrating / degrading the girls as far as possible. Must be a danger if guys need to act out what they see in extreme porn too much.
Still I am well used to come on, and go used it. It does further reduce risks of pregnancy and other things. I certainly am not into risking girls getting pregnant, we all should know many young hookers are getting pregnant accidentally, even if they are supposedly on the pill.
I intend to take ETs lead and get the vasectomy done. My Mrs still has periods but not wanting another baby.
Is it weird for me to get turned on by the girl getting turned on and clearly wanting to enjoy it rather than purely working? No dead fish fucks for me. Its easy to like girls who like to fuck a lot, and show enthusiasm. I am okay Normally with girls largely doing what things they enjoy, rather than requesting specific services. Sometimes I have got no BJ, because girl does not feel like doing one but wants to do other things. No BJ is not worse than a poor BJ. One girl worked in a BJ shop so being sick to death of BJs but wanting DATY and a nice deep fuck, was not a big problem. Ha ha. Her pussy was relatively fresh.
Girl attitude is the huge thing for me to make a session work, or bomb out totally, once get past total physical incompatibility, or a disaster body, and she has got have a nic pussy and look sexy. Back in my home country before moving to Thai girls, only 1 in 10 hookers really had the attitude to make it fun rather than procedural, and hence I never do western hookers back home any more. Success rate was far too low. East European hookers and Latina have a much better attitude, don't know my. My country just sucks!
I think Thailand has been in decline for hooker Attitudes, but I can't prove it, because I got older and less desirable. I never forget Thai girls that wanted to fuck several times a night (many years back). Was easy to see how much they wanted another pop like they never had it so good. Don't meet that any more. Best I can expect is another round in the morning if do LT. Maybe the young spunks are still getting that. Maybe I am too difficult to do multiple times any more.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2376735]I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.[/QUOTE]Lucky you then dude, the further you walk down the Soi, the uglier it gets IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Catire;2376601]
The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.[/QUOTE]That part is likely right, shaved girls know Farangs prefer it. However I don't see any correlation between allowing BBFS and pussy hair, it maybe true that many inexperienced girls are easier to talk into BBFS than experienced ones but not sure they all have big Bush, but I don't see a huge pattern. Could be shaved, well trimmed, or bushy. I don't do any bushy ones regularly, so can't say if they would BBFS easily or not.
Many guys claimed to get BBFS at Snow White regularly. I guess they weren't all telling porkies.
My first regular that decided to stop using a condom (in recent years) was every experienced and shaved. She wanted for us both to be tested regularly, she was a little more paranoid about HIV than necessary. However she could see my staying power increased if BBFS. She could take a while to get her 2nd pop. Dicks wilt faster with a thick condom spoiling the feel for non-sensitive dick guys. Maybe can't cum. I am sure ET agrees with me here. BBFS can feel better for the girl as well as for the guy. She was first one to yank the condom off me suddenly one day. Of course can be a mechanism for the girl to hook the customer more regularly, and make her be a preferred or the preferred girl. No other girl matches her stamina.
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[QUOTE=Jzinct;2376149]Well plans changed and I ended up in Bangkok four days sooner and later in the day. Flight and immigration was smooth and uneventful. Exchanged some cash and got something to eat on the lower floor of the airport. Head for the train station at the BKK airport. As I'm looking at the rail map to figure out my route, a very official looking lady with an ID badge says the train is not working. Offers to find me a car and asks me where I'm going. I make mistake number one, sort of. I tell her I don't have a hotel yet. See says she can help me with that too. Takes me over to little tourist info shop and shows me a binder full of hotels, tours and services for sale. After some back and forth negotiating we settle on $2000 baht for car and room. Paid the money at the booth, which I was a bit unsure about, but was given a receipt. I had two suitcases plus a carry on, it was door to door, so figured it was worth it and I did a good job for $60 US.
[/QUOTE]Lesson one. Don't accept help from very helpful scammers. Ignore all those too eager to help you. Don't even talk to them. There is an official information booth somewhere, if you need it. If price is too good, you would get the shittiest Hotel. She was there to make a good profit and rip you off. Surely the train was really still operating. If not take a metered taxi.
At airport I go to upper level. All taxi drivers that come at me, get ignored. I take a guy politely sitting in his taxi. These are likely the more honest ones. Once I speak Thai he won't try anything too silly. We make sure the meter gets turned on / reset. I still have to be very specific about the taxi route. I have to insist he uses the expressway but gets off at Rama 9. Thais have different agendas. The may like to exit freeway at Soi 1 with traffic jam. They may think to save money will use ordinary roads with traffic jam. I use Google Maps to show the best route at the time.
I think is better is you book a hotel in advance for at least the first night, to give you less hassles on arrival. However stay flexible. Learn what you like and what you don't like.
Anyone trying too hard to help has other motives. Believe us! Never let them take you to where they want to go.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;2376529]As a newbie Farang with mozarella like skin, where should I spend my time? Where to pick up girls without going broke?
Prices are higher than in patts I hear, so what should I expect for ST in the different venues?
Are the soapy's worth it? If so, where should I go?
Which gogo's are most likely to have nude girls and some hands on action going on?
I should mention that I'm not particularly green or easily flustered when it comes to working girls. The last decade I've spent a lot of times at FKKs, which also means that I've fucked many pretty Romanians at 100 E and hour or less. Syz, I'm sure you don't remember, but we met once in the glory days of FKK World. Back when Neya and Kate Beckinsale lookalike Andrea were filling their pockets over there.
In any case, any info is appreciated.
FD.[/QUOTE]Free Dude,
I remember you well, of course. Younger and more handsome than me. Not taking any bullshit girls! You were liking the basic cost girls and unhappy with girls giving so-so service for a 50 at Oase, where I was getting fab service but taking an hour and paying much more. Meanwhile Neya and Andrea were great for both of us. Ha ha. Fab bodies on those girls! Would be happy with a Mrs like Andrea. LOL What perfection!
Back to the point. Nude dancing girls can be found at Soi Cowboy in Crazy House, Kazy Kozy, Susie Wong, and 5 Star. Some nice looking girls, some uglies / buffaloes just like an FKK. I suspect you are not going to be happy with what a gogo bar is going to set you back for drinks, barfine and the girl ST (could be a few hundred Baht for drinks, 700 BF, and many girls try for 3000 Baht for Short time now).
For Nana Plaza I recommend Billboard bar. Not nude dancing.
I don't have a favourite Soapy right now. Not easy to find girls that prefer Farangs and low on surgeries. Have a look in La Belle, Colonze, Emmanuelle, maybe Meree or Evita. I don't recall if you accept surgeries girls or not.
Now a great alternative to a Soapy is a Nuru body slide massage. Try Doki Doki (good service for me), maybe New massage on Sukhumvit Soi 33.
For more porn star oriented massage, try Snow White Soi 26. Could get anal for no extra charge. CIM also no extra charge.
More regular Oily massage parlours, try Club 102, Soi 24, and have a look in Soi 24/1 (near to soi 26).
P.S. There are a lot of Ladyboys around on Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza and that may be a new thing for you to watch out for. 5-star bar has Post Op ladyboys that do not dance nude, and normally leave the farang guys alone. I don't let that bother me at all. They don't try to get to me.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2376403]
I will not reveal her name or the exact place she stays as it seems that nobody wants her anyway, she said she arrived around 8 pm that night and I was her first customer at around midnight. Given that both you and Syzigyes probably saw her but did not pay attention to her is a good indication that she is absolutely not worth it.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. That is a negative attitude. At first she sounded similar to my girl, but I think mine was younger and claimed to be a Bangkok girl. I was there early so half the girls had not even showed up yet. Who knows if I saw her or not. I did not patrol the entire Soi. Did not go past the redevelop area (that used to be Raja Hotel etc.). Does not matter. We all have our own taste. I found 3 girls quite different to each other at approx. 8.30PM, all worthy of a second hard look, either with good face, or apparently good body, varying skin colours.
Without a name and place, it devalues the possible usefulness of the report slightly, but no problem, shows okay Girls can be found there and for a reasonable price.
I just remembered having my 2nd try of a girl on Soi 4 a few weeks back that had performed O.K. for me at Boss Massage. 2nd try she was no good to me with weak BJ, and not getting into it, and maybe a sore pussy. ET had previously reported a bomb out with her, so I should have known she was a possibly problematic pick. Forgot the name now. Soi 4 girls will always be hit and miss. Find the right attitude and can work fine.
Some guys will say only dogs on Soi 4 and hot girls seen at Lolytas BJ bar, others can be more realistic. Soi 4 has a much larger pool of girls and looks vary a lot. Years ago I had a hot girl (great ass) called Anne at Lolytas but have not seen a suitable girl since. I will try any venue that starts to give a reasonable success rate with reasonable lookers and value for money. Did one reasonable Kasilong girl but forget who she was now.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2376850]Ha ha. That is a negative attitude. At first she sounded similar to my girl, but I think mine was younger and claimed to be a Bangkok girl.
Without a name and place, it devalues the possible usefulness of the report slightly[/QUOTE]I didn't give specific details that could lead to her because she's got many regular customers that are probably reading this forum. She was very nice with me and I wouldn't want that any of these guys go to her and tells her that I detailed my encounter with her on the internet.
I 'm sure that she didn't have many customers that spent almost the whole session with their finger in her ass even when we were just talking together.
The purpose of the post was to show that we can still find cute girls that are still young with a nice body and very good attitude at an affordable price in that soi, even for a guy like me that doesn't like much of these FL's.
I'm sure that she is not the same girl that you had, she doesn't fit your description.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2376728]I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.[/QUOTE]By reading your posts one would easily believe that all the Thai working girls are "dark skin Essaan gals".
They are not all dark skinned and can come in very different shape.
Actually a lot of the girls with a light color skin are coming from Essaan also, and the color of the skin shouldn't be a factor. The shape of the face and body should be more appropriate to judge the beauty of a girl.
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Sw
Hi all, I am on my way to LOS for my fall excursion. I was just wondering. Has anything changed at SW? I used to take a girl back to my hotel for some fun and games and it was always all inclusive. With regard to Nana hotel FL, over the years, I have been incredibly lucky, all things considered. Nice looking young girls and full service for no more than 1500 tops. I hope that has not changed these days I seldom see the same girl again. They seem to move on faster than ever before. Any thoughts?
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2376983]By reading your posts one would easily believe that all the Thai working girls are "dark skin Essaan gals".
They are not all dark skinned and can come in very different shape.
Actually a lot of the girls with a light color skin are coming from Essaan also, and the color of the skin shouldn't be a factor. The shape of the face and body should be more appropriate to judge the beauty of a girl.[/QUOTE]You are correct, not all are, but most are. Yes, there are some lighter gals from Isaan, namely the ones from Nakhon Phanom. Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2377176]Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.[/QUOTE]You're right, I didn't express myself correctly.
I was giving my personal view and didn't try to say others what they should or shouldn't do.
To say it in other words, as you I mostly prefer white skinned Asian girls but when I find a girl with a body shape that I like with a cute enough face and a good attitude I don't let the skin color being a big factor in my decision.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2377176]You are correct, not all are, but most are. Yes, there are some lighter gals from Isaan, namely the ones from Nakhon Phanom. Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.[/QUOTE]It may surprise you but even Buriram supplies some light skinned girls. Yes it was a surprise when I met one, recently.
When the girl is extra dark skinned and short, the we tend to guess Buriram or Surin, but when she is normal coloured or light skin it becomes very hard to guess. I don't see any major pattern. Udon and Khon Kaen girls tend to be taller on average in my experience. Perhaps Chiang Rai girls are lighter skin on average, and not many really dark, but means little for individuals. In the North face shapes vary a lot too. Some girls have a very broad jaw almost square head, that I don't go for. Some have a slimmer face.
One girl I knew a long time but have not fucked as yet (maybe soon to be rectified) comes from Songkhla / Hatyai yet I had no idea where she came from whatsoever. She had not been using southern accent noticeably. Reasonably light skin. I sort of guessed somewhere north of Bangkok. My very first girl from Songkhla / Satun looked so much like an Isaan girl, that Isaan people would speak to her in Isaan language and be annoyed she answered in Thai.
In general, gross generalisations about what girls look like by province does not work, but certain looks can suggest a particular set of provinces is likely. The most stand out look would be a really dark short Buriram girl, I guess. Many southern Thais also may not look very Thai at all.
If I like a girl, I don't give a shit where she comes from, as long as she won't get lynched for playing up due to religious problems. I actually don't care much how old she is either, although we have the legal problem of some very young mothers wanting to work as hookers.
Skin tone does not matter that much, although a more golden brown looks more attractive to me than dingy grey / brown or charcoal / brown. I have a few favourite "black" porn stars with nice skin, e. G. Nia Nacci. Very even toned skin can be nice in many different shades.
Blotchy uneven coloured faces can put me off. One girl I knew for years developed blotchy coloured face. Made her look a bit old.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2376904]I didn't give specific details that could lead to her because she's got many regular customers that are probably reading this forum. She was very nice with me and I wouldn't want that any of these guys go to her and tells her that I detailed my encounter with her on the internet.
I 'm sure that she didn't have many customers that spent almost the whole session with their finger in her ass even when we were just talking together.
The purpose of the post was to show that we can still find cute girls that are still young with a nice body and very good attitude at an affordable price in that soi, even for a guy like me that doesn't like much of these FL's.
I'm sure that she is not the same girl that you had, she doesn't fit your description.[/QUOTE]Yes I stopped posting blow by blow reports about girls, after one dude printed my post and read it out to Aor from Annies, and overseas, guys had quoted what I wrote directly to girls as well. That is really destructive for the forum to contain good info. In modern day have girls that read the forum too.
It was lucky that I had only good things to say about those girls, however one was still annoyed. One of my regular girls in Germany however, dropped me, as she had promised her big money regular jealous customer, she would not take me any more. He was pissed off that the girl had a good time with me, after reading my detailed forum report, when he had thought he was her sole favourite. This was the girl's story, of course I can't prove it is factual. However it is a strange story if she made it up as a reason to stop fucking me. If her pussy had been out of action after an extended fuck, she could have just stated that plainly. She was an older girl but outstandingly good time on the bed. She was really into it (with some customers).
These days I still mention specific girls. If they don't get a great rap, I don't care if they find out. At least was honest assessment. If they get a glowing report, it can help them to get more business. We should be helping each other to know which girls can potentially be great or disastrous, even though practical help is rare.
Knowing where some specific girl has turned up working is quite valuable.