Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2378058]
Oh and definitely upper right by a wide margin. Then lower right. Only one I really dislike is middle top. Too mannish for me.[/QUOTE]Lower right would be 2nd last pic for me. Can't see the one "mannish" at all other than lower left girl looked like a LB to me, possibly with altered jawline. Maybe just an extra fake look about her. Top row look more natural or less obvious surgeries to me. Yes a few nose jobs, although I lack the experience to know the range of typical Viet girl looks, despite so many in the home country. Hardly met one in the work environment, don't know why (Viet males moreso). Did they all become housewives? The problem was they nearly all looked plain, so I payed little attention. Some of the Chinese, Philippina, Indonesian, Thai, etc. Girls were better looking, in the top 10% at least. Also some stunning dark girls from miscellaneous destinations, e. G. Mixed blood Mauritian girls in particular, and some hot Kenyan students.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2378245]Not too sure Natty when you were last in Vietnam, but I have stayed in District 1 in HCM twice in the past six months and had no difficulty. Staying in a 5 star I found the hotel Concierge and WeCaht very helpful. Price seemed to be in the 1. 5 M dong for about two hours, delivered to your room.[/QUOTE]Does this mean the girl was chosen for you. This would not work for most of us. We don't know if 1. 5 M Dong is expensive of not.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2378218] When I first visited Phnom Penh, almost 18 years ago, there were plenty of attractive Viet girls around, but this is not the case anymore.[/QUOTE]Om.

Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's was amazing. Those Viets were 5 USD ST and could be had LT, and that LT could be from 10 am till the next morning, for 20 USD. They were all pretty skilled as well. And don't think any of them had babies.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2378284]Om.

Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's was amazing. Those Viets were 5 USD ST and could be had LT, and that LT could be from 10 am till the next morning, for 20 USD. They were all pretty skilled as well. And don't think any of them had babies.[/QUOTE]Can I ask a maybe dumb question. What made Viet girls go to Phnom Penh? Would they not have been better off in Thailand, given Cambodian girls were so cheap? Or perhaps they are not in Cambodia much now due to prices rising so much in Thailand, and perhaps less in Cambodia? Just speculating without personal knowledge.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2378605]Can I ask a maybe dumb question. What made Viet girls go to Phnom Penh? Would they not have been better off in Thailand, given Cambodian girls were so cheap? [/QUOTE]They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2378620]They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I have not really been with any trafficked girls recently, and no Viet girls. I have to think back to days when I was trying Nataree (long ago) when would meet trafficked or contract girls and before that at Mona Lisa. Some in Europe but they were more secretive, about their personal circumstances.

Never really liked Nataree because of the trafficking situation. Some girls admitted freely where they came from, usually were not very good performers, and others pretended to be from Chiang Rai but sometimes that was doubtful.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2378658]Thanks for that. I have not really been with any trafficked girls recently, and no Viet girls. I have to think back to days when I was trying Nataree (long ago) when would meet trafficked or contract girls and before that at Mona Lisa. Some in Europe but they were more secretive, about their personal circumstances.

Never really liked Nataree because of the trafficking situation. Some girls admitted freely where they came from, usually were not very good performers, and others pretended to be from Chiang Rai but sometimes that was doubtful.[/QUOTE]I'd agree that we operate in a world that is pretty girls and bright lights on the surface but if you dig deeper some areas can get very seedy very quickly.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2378620]They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I would say that in the seedier areas you are probably correct, however the town was littered with Viet FLs at the time. In the mid-00's the Cambodian gov made a push to get rid of the Viet working girls and did.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2378620]They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Whilst this answer is correct its not entirely accurate. The Viet girls in pp now and especially from the 90's are not Viet nationals IE no Vietnamese passport or ID card. Instead these girls are ones whose parents went to Cambodia for opportunities pre khymer rouge days and was stuck there and so now live in Cambodia without Cambodian passport or ID card due to Cambodian racist attitudes towards Vietnamese. So yes once they incur debts they cannot go overseas to earn more nor can the debt owners traffic them overseas. You can still find Vietnamese Cambodians working in local brothels for 10 usd, though now with all the foreigners, Vietnamese girls who are generally better looking than Cambodians know they can get premium prices, so much so that Vietnamese nationals often go to Cambodia to earn more than they do in Vietnamese.

You don't even need to go back to 90's in 2008 it was still 5 usd, 10 usd if you didn't bargain.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2378247]Does this mean the girl was chosen for you. This would not work for most of us. We don't know if 1. 5 M Dong is expensive of not.[/QUOTE]With the hotel concierge I had to take what was on offer, but I could have refused for the price of the "taxi" fare. Not sure what that would have been, but not much I assume as 1. 5 m Dong is about US $75-80 ish so the bank won't be broken. With WeChat you take your chances based on the fact that the ladies pictures could be old / Photoshopped / not real.

Both of my hotel transactions were at the New World in District 1, both had the same weird intro. The girls rung my room when they were close to arriving in the hotel and both times the girls asked me to meet them in the foyer. Once I got to the foyer and I was identified as the right person the girl rushed over to me with a bottle of wine, very publicly and theatrically given to me. The purpose which I found out later was to give the impression we were long acquainted friends to avail us of easy access to my room. I thought this was very generous of the ladies until I went to have a drink of the wine a few days later. Revolting, and I assume VERY cheap!

The girls were a bit hit and miss. The girl the concierge got me was fine and strongly performed. The WeChat lady was very forgettable with the worst baby damage I have witnessed. In the case of the latter, thankfully vitamin V came to the rescue or it just wasn't going to happen.

(Late acknowledgement that I could also has posted this in the VN forum.)

[QUOTE=Stykler;2378887]With the hotel concierge I had to take what was on offer, but I could have refused for the price of the "taxi" fare. Not sure what that would have been, but not much I assume as 1. 5 m Dong is about US $75-80 ish so the bank won't be broken. With WeChat you take your chances based on the fact that the ladies pictures could be old / Photoshopped / not real.

(Late acknowledgement that I could also has posted this in the VN forum.)[/QUOTE]Thanks, a nice report. It is useful to get a comparison for us who have never mongered in Vietnam. In fact I have not been there. I once intended to holiday there, but accidently obtained a Thai GF first, so why would I want to go to Vietnam when could go to Thailand with her? Even today, I am hampered that I can't secretly visit countries, with passport stamps, with no valid reasons. A trip to Pattaya would be much easier since no extra passport markings.

I could do a Visa run to Vietnam though if it looked attractive, however, tend to take the quickest and cheapest these days.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2378673]I'd agree that we operate in a world that is pretty girls and bright lights on the surface but if you dig deeper some areas can get very seedy very quickly.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I even used to have arguments on this forum about how bad the situation was at Nataree a while before they got closed down. Some guys were denying those things were still going on. Others just turned a blind eye and did not need to know, which I have no problem with. I heard a lot from girls perhaps due to Thai language ability. I used to slip small cash tips to girls secretly at Nataree, because was aware they received virtually nothing from the up front session payment due to their managers receiving the money and "repayment of contract debt".

I hated to see the faces of those guys, some of which could be the girl managers.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2378868]Whilst this answer is correct its not entirely accurate. The Viet girls in pp now and especially from the 90's are not Viet nationals IE no Vietnamese passport or ID card. Instead these girls are ones whose parents went to Cambodia for opportunities pre khymer rouge days and was stuck there and so now live in Cambodia without Cambodian passport or ID card due to Cambodian racist attitudes towards Vietnamese. So yes once they incur debts they cannot go overseas to earn more nor can the debt owners traffic them overseas. You can still find Vietnamese Cambodians working in local brothels for 10 usd, though now with all the foreigners, Vietnamese girls who are generally better looking than Cambodians know they can get premium prices, so much so that Vietnamese nationals often go to Cambodia to earn more than they do in Vietnamese.

You don't even need to go back to 90's in 2008 it was still 5 usd, 10 usd if you didn't bargain.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of ethnic Vietnamese living on the Tonle Sap lake. They often have been there for 2 or 3 generations and aren't allowed to become Cambodian nationals due to Cambodian ethnicity laws. They aren't allowed passports so can't leave the country, they can't own land so they live in houses on the lake. Sad situation. In recent years many have been "floating" down river back to Vietnam where they can get residency and eventually a passport and some kind of normal life.

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Thanks.

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