Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Turgid;2838064]A guy I know told me that his friend used Seeking in Bogota and ended up marrying the girl he hooked up with. Anyone heard similar stories?[/QUOTE]I think I know who you are talking about. Yeah, my gal got on the site because a GF of hers in Colombia met a Spanish guy and married him and lives in Spain.

It is funny when you have these knuckleheads who declare that the site has to be filled with hooker types because of the name. For the most part, women do what their friends do. If their friends used it to get johns, get a BF / sugar daddy, or get a husband, that is what they are going to look at doing. Many times I have had to educate women on what the role of a sugar baby is, and I did not ask who or what got them on the site.

I read a book based on a survey of what women really want. It is funny, huh? Everyone is trying to figure that out but no one thought to ask. Anyway, what the researchers found is the mistress of a man is looking for the exact same traits in him as she would be in a husband. So yeah, if you have a hooker type, it is all about money, but when you have a SB, a real one, it is really not just all about the money, and that confused the heck out of me.

After I was divorced, I wrongly thought the SBs I had would never have dated me, but they would have provided I was monogamous with the one I chose.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2838514] I wrongly thought the SBs I had would never have dated me, but they would have provided I was monogamous with the one I chose.[/QUOTE]My takeaway for people reading this is: it's not impossible for real, amazing relationships to happen with incredible women, but I would caution any expectations of anything "more". That goes for SBs, semi-pros, escorts, massage girls, street girls, etc etc etc. I think that for the most part, the skepticism is strong, because we also see the opposite happen. Scammers, pros who are trying to only milk guys and the simps, hopeless romantics who fall for everything. I don't have a link, but it's some IG / tiktok interview with a massive onlyfans girl who detests all those guys paying her way. It seems crazy, but it's the current reality.

For guys who have 'game'/ personality / money / whatever, these sites / situations are more about getting a chance at the table with model / fantasy / dream girls. Then they can show off their charm, wit, humor or whatever (Or lack of it, but still each gets what they need: $$ for the lady, getting to the bedroom for the guy.

F.

I'm not disagreeing with you or the prior poster. I do believe all of this is possible. Of course.

But I often come on here to make a point about odds and likelihoods.

The reality is a girl joins the site because she wants to trade her youth for money, episodically. That's why she's on the site. Any girl can find older guys on any other dating site, easily, without the backdrop of the kind of impropriety that sugaring connotes.

This means that any relationship that starts here always has that as the context. Always. I'm not saying people don't really dare or even get married off this stuff. I'm saying don't confuse those terms with the way they're used without that context. The likelihood a sugar daddy and baby marriage ends with happily ever after reminiscing about their lives on the porch is slim to none because the foundation is one of a power imbalance and explicit financial exchange. No amount of "we saw past all that over time" changes the fact that you have 2 people who'd never be together were it not for the exchange.

I cringe when I hear guys on here talk about their girlfriends, meaning people they met on a sugar site and still give money to, even if not the way they used to. I often wonder how the same stories would be told from the other side.

[QUOTE=Foolish;2838619]My takeaway for people reading this is: it's not impossible for real, amazing relationships to happen with incredible women, but I would caution any expectations of anything "more". That goes for SBs, semi-pros, escorts, massage girls, street girls, etc etc etc. I think that for the most part, the skepticism is strong, because we also see the opposite happen. Scammers, pros who are trying to only milk guys and the simps, hopeless romantics who fall for everything. I don't have a link, but it's some IG / tiktok interview with a massive onlyfans girl who detests all those guys paying her way. It seems crazy, but it's the current reality..[/QUOTE]

Europe. Land of plenty.

MY regular sb is begging to spend more time (aka fuck Me all day) as I am not living in Europe anymore. This is the one that refuses to take $ from me.

Ditching Sharks for her. Difficult choice. Wil try to squeeze in though but looks like Sharks will have to wait.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2838512]They say all these generics are the same. They are not. The best viagra brand is Kamagra. There is a place called the kamagra store but I can vouch for all day chemist: [URL]https://www.alldaychemist.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=kamagra[/URL].

I can't vouch for this store but the best generic Cialis is tadalista. I am not sure if this site is reliable but this is what the packet looks like: [URL]https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/tadalista-20-mg-22992573555.html[/URL].

This is not just me saying this but I have vouched for these products and so has anyone I know who has ever tried and used them.[/QUOTE]I have firsthand experience using Kamagra and can vouch that it does the job pretty well. I use it during my trips to pattaya where I have to fuck 12 chicks in 3 days. LOL. Off late I have been hearing a lot of duplicate kamagra hitting the market. So administer caution and buy from large chemists and legit stores.

Have you tried horny goat weed? They say it's a natural plant based supplement and is pretty good.

Stay safe!

Not a Seeking adventure but I know we all share interest in the girl scene worldwide. Thought you might enjoy a story from Taiwan. Not your easiest P4 P country! Here's a link.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1024-Taipei&p=2838829[/URL]#post2838829.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2838832]Not a Seeking adventure but I know we all share interest in the girl scene worldwide. Thought you might enjoy a story from Taiwan. Not your easiest P4 P country! Here's a link.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1024-Taipei&p=2838829[/URL]#post2838829.[/QUOTE]Fantastic story. Honestly the best part was she handed you the phone and the KTV manager confirmed you had a good time? I would never forget that cherry on top.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2838624]But I often come on here to make a point about odds and likelihoods.

I cringe when I hear guys on here talk about their girlfriends, meaning people they met on a sugar site and still give money to, even if not the way they used to. I often wonder how the same stories would be told from the other side.[/QUOTE]Totally on the same page. And to be honest, there are a lot of successful SB / SDs who definitely do not want "more". It usually can get awkward / sideways when that balance is lost.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2838707]This is the one that refuses to take $ from me.[/QUOTE]Enjoy. These are some of the best, while they last.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2838875]Fantastic story. Honestly the best part was she handed you the phone and the KTV manager confirmed you had a good time? I would never forget that cherry on top.[/QUOTE]Awesome customer service. I don't understand the restrictive Asian monger culture (like Taiwan, South Korea, etc), but I guess it's about keeping it local or people who ruined it for others? Imagine Colombia, instead of getting worse in service / increase in price, they just don't allow foreigners. Would still like to explore these places for travel, but have low expectations (unless I'm on business like Steve! Ha).

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2838624]I'm not disagreeing with you or the prior poster. I do believe all of this is possible. Of course.

But I often come on here to make a point about odds and likelihoods.

The reality is a girl joins the site because she wants to trade her youth for money, episodically. That's why she's on the site. Any girl can find older guys on any other dating site, easily, without the backdrop of the kind of impropriety that sugaring connotes.

This means that any relationship that starts here always has that as the context. Always. I'm not saying people don't really dare or even get married off this stuff. I'm saying don't confuse those terms with the way they're used without that context. The likelihood a sugar daddy and baby marriage ends with happily ever after reminiscing about their lives on the porch is slim to none because the foundation is one of a power imbalance and explicit financial exchange. No amount of "we saw past all that over time" changes the fact that you have 2 people who'd never be together were it not for the exchange.

I cringe when I hear guys on here talk about their girlfriends, meaning people they met on a sugar site and still give money to, even if not the way they used to. I often wonder how the same stories would be told from the other side.[/QUOTE]AP, you are too definitive. Your always comment is directly contradicted by my gal and the one I was dating before her. In the USA, in my experience, it WAS always about the money. In Mexico and Colombia, it could have been just that they wanted to hang out with a wealthy foreigner.

You are also wrongly making the assumption that all relationships from SA started with an exchange of money. That was true in the USA and not elsewhere. I was with women abroad who many times asked for no money.

And let's flip it around. Yes, we men should always be on the lookout for a woman who pretends to like us but it is just about money, but there should be caution on the other side too, women who care nothing about money and too much about you. Too often that is the borderline woman, the fatal attraction type, "I am not going to be ignored, Dan! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYKDX-egZjk[/URL].

I actually think men's biggest mistake is overconfidence in how their woman is feeling. It is normal for you to want her to think she wants you for you and not your money. I realize that the worst judge of whether a woman was into me was me. That is why you get your friends, especially your female ones, to confirm if she really is into you. They may not always be right, but their track record will be much better than yours.

[QUOTE=Foolish;2837222]Are you enjoying the long sessions otherwise? I've realized that I don't mind the long stamina I get from 5-20 MG Taladafil. No performance issues normally but find that I'the rather savor with pills for a long time vs shooting multiple times in a session. Funny enough, like Steve, getting blown is the surefire way of releasing. Not a fan of BLS but some thrusting in BBBJ works for CIM or otherwise usually after 5-10 minutes.

F.[/QUOTE]I enjoy the long sessions. I've never been able to shoot multiple times in an hour /90 minutes but not sure how long you're counting. I've always been jealous of it LOL but that way round 2 I can go for awhile at least. I started taking Sildenafil 20 MG last year for girls from sa but it doesn't seem as effective anymore. I don't have a problem getting up for round 2 but after a few positions it's like jr loses interest especially feel with the rubber.

Sadly I can only find them in Europe. My experience in the US is more pump and dump / business focuses. Most girls leave after an hour or so which is a bummer and why I've stopped looking. The one good experience I had in the US was the one time I went bb. CIP pretty quick, then she got on CG which was also great.

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2839058]I enjoy the long sessions. I've never been able to shoot multiple times in an hour /90 minutes but not sure how long you're counting. I've always been jealous of it LOL but that way round 2 I can go for awhile at least. I started taking Sildenafil 20 MG last year for girls from sa but it doesn't seem as effective anymore. I don't have a problem getting up for round 2 but after a few positions it's like jr loses interest especially feel with the rubber.

Sadly I can only find them in Europe. My experience in the US is more pump and dump / business focuses. Most girls leave after an hour or so which is a bummer and why I've stopped looking. The one good experience I had in the US was the one time I went bb. CIP pretty quick, then she got on CG which was also great.[/QUOTE]Of course go as low as you can and be effective but 20 MG viagra is a super small dose. 50 and 100 are most common.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2838969]AP, you are too definitive. Your always comment is directly contradicted by my gal and the one I was dating before her. In the USA, in my experience, it WAS always about the money. In Mexico and Colombia, it could have been just that they wanted to hang out with a wealthy foreigner.

You are also wrongly making the assumption that all relationships from SA started with an exchange of money. That was true in the USA and not elsewhere. I was with women abroad who many times asked for no money.

And let's flip it around. Yes, we men should always be on the lookout for a woman who pretends to like us but it is just about money, but there should be caution on the other side too, women who care nothing about money and too much about you. Too often that is the borderline woman, the fatal attraction type, "I am not going to be ignored, Dan! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYKDX-egZjk[/URL].

I actually think men's biggest mistake is overconfidence in how their woman is feeling. It is normal for you to want her to think she wants you for you and not your money. I realize that the worst judge of whether a woman was into me was me. That is why you get your friends, especially your female ones, to confirm if she really is into you. They may not always be right, but their track record will be much better than yours.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with the part when you say that AP wrongly assumes that all relationships in SA started with a exchange of money.

I remember this arts student who I met in SA, went for a cup of coffee and then we fucked. At the end I automatically gave her $$ that I had told her over message I was going to gift her and she really didn't want to take it. We saw each other a few more times and she told me "you gave me money, I never asked for it". In the end I stopped seeing her because she was very clingy and was texting me all day long while I was working. I think she wasnt looking for money in the site, but a relationship with an older guy like me, maybe her goal was to lmove in with me as a couple and get married.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2838969]AP, you are too definitive. Your always comment is directly contradicted by my gal and the one I was dating before her. In the USA, in my experience, it WAS always about the money. In Mexico and Colombia, it could have been just that they wanted to hang out with a wealthy foreigner.

You are also wrongly making the assumption that all relationships from SA started with an exchange of money. That was true in the USA and not elsewhere. I was with women abroad who many times asked for no money.

And let's flip it around. Yes, we men should always be on the lookout for a woman who pretends to like us but it is just about money, but there should be caution on the other side too, women who care nothing about money and too much about you. Too often that is the borderline woman, the fatal attraction type, "I am not going to be ignored, Dan! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYKDX-egZjk[/URL].

I actually think men's biggest mistake is overconfidence in how their woman is feeling. It is normal for you to want her to think she wants you for you and not your money. I realize that the worst judge of whether a woman was into me was me. That is why you get your friends, especially your female ones, to confirm if she really is into you. They may not always be right, but their track record will be much better than yours.[/QUOTE]I have said this many times, but it is worth repeating. What I get back in return from, SA, far exceeds what money I give the girls. There are 4 girls I see regularly in MTY, this has been going on for almost 3 years now. There is another girl I see in CDMX, for over a year now. I would definitely marry her. So humble and genuine when we are together. She is also a total freak. With these girls I never discuss money and at times I almost feel guilty how little I give them.

Yes, America is tough, but you can also have great.

Times in the states, but this does take more time and money.

Heading back to CDMX tomorrow, how guys can complain about CDMX I will never understand, there are hot girls everywhere, totally amazing. I have at least 2 meetings set-up daily, what more can I ask for. I was there 2 weeks ago and what an amazing trip, Yes, CDMX is expensive, but there is so little competition there and hot girls everywhere.

Also, some girls have lowered there prices, from before.

More good news, airline tickets prices have dropped significantly for San Antonio to CDMX. I will be there every other weekend. At least through the Holidays.

Enough push back that I can see the other side. I take it back.

I guess a number of you are having relationships on SA that truly transcend the financial aspect to the point they'd happen even without the money.

I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=MexicanCuban;2839215]I I think she wasnt looking for money in the site, but a relationship with an older guy like me, maybe her goal was to lmove in with me as a couple and get married.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2839240]There is another girl I see in CDMX, for over a year now. I would definitely marry her.[/QUOTE]So to the OP who asked about this, you can see that yes marriage can happen on SA and sometimes women are looking for it. If you read the women's tabs and what they are looking for, you almost always will see luxury lifestyle, but it is not uncommon to see women list marriage minded, and I think most times that they list that they are seriously looking for a husband.