Madagascar

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2704855]All girls in Madagascar can use facebook for very small fee from telma or orange and every girl with smart phone has it. As I see you not understand that are you talking about like most of the times on this subforum I try to explain for you it not divides in 2 sections hard core pros and ordinary girls. As most mada girls need money even normal girls who never done it before can come in your hotel they all are just poor girls who try to survive somehow. If you send fb re guest for a mada girl and she accept it its 70-80 percent change she will start to reply to your messages also. If she start reply your message its 90-100 percent chance she agree to meet you (I mean to go out for dating and so on if someone looking for it) most of the times I skip this part and then they agree to meet I ask them second question can they come my hotel? Some refuse but many coming probably 50 percent come 50 percent refuse or simillar. Most of this girls is semi pros you never meet them at clubs or discos they are sweet sometimes shy and so on. Madagascar girls is not Kenyan, Ugandan or Tanzanian girls who late hours or not show at all. In many trips in mada I can remember just 2-4 non show up. If the girls is late they late 10-20 minutes in smaller cities but in tana can happens hours sometimes because of traffic so at tana I not use it a lot. Facebook is work great for anytime sex sometimes you wake up 6-7 am morning and see girls on facebook online already as many girls go sleep early and wake up early in mada. You just text them and they come. Where else you can get girl 6-7 am in the morning not leaving your hotel in mada? Or you going new small city and plan stay here just one night you arrive late after dark at hotel and already have a girl not need to go out and look as you already find on facebook in advance. I like mix all types of mongering, takes contacts on streets, from waitress, clubs, bars and so on but facebook its good instrument to put more variety on mongering which works best for me in mada as you can get a girls which you never seen in discos or walking somewhere on the street and they are more fresh than discos girls.[/QUOTE]How do you search for girls in their 20's in FB? Let's say you type in "antananarivo madagascar" in the search and then you click on "people" in the filter menu? I tried but only a few girls came up in the search. Maybe you are using FB dating app?

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2717229]How do you search for girls in their 20's in FB? Let's say you type in "antananarivo madagascar" in the search and then you click on "people" in the filter menu? I tried but only a few girls came up in the search. Maybe you are using FB dating app?[/QUOTE]You can't search by age on FB. Facebook dating app is working just in some counties and madagascar is not one of them and I doubt its ever will be.

[QUOTE=BarraBoy;2716187]I am planning my first trip to Nosy Be

Is there an English speaking hangout for expats?

I will do some boots on the ground searching for a place to stay, but I am open to referrals.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Consider this. When I went I just met one native English speaking mongerer in more than a month. A seasoned, confident punter will probably be ok. But if you want to hang out with English expats why bother with Madagascar? There's so many Anglo African countries with beautiful women to choose from.

I have learned a lot from the experience of hardcore Africa guys but I've also learned that their interests not necessarily equal mine. Most stay for a longer periods month (s) + and as such want to stretch their $ as far as possible and that is fine. But if you are a 2-3 week holiday maker do you really want to put up with the sub level infrastructure, living and travel conditions Madagascar has to offer?

What I want to say is don't limit yourself to a tunnel vision where only the price of a WG matters when you should be looking at the total package. Does it really matter to you that much if you pay 10 or 20 usd for a girl? If it doesn't there's a host of other countries to choose from.

Planning my first trip to Mada. Will arrive next week and could spend up to 3 months. Only interested in places with beaches.

Based upon reports, it looks like Nosy Be is a good starting point for a first-timer like myself. I speak decent French and have a healthy budget, so I plan to also visit:
[LIST]Antsiranana[/LIST][LIST]Mahajanga[/LIST][LIST]Toliara[/LIST]
So my question. . . From Nosy Be, what is a logical travel plan to visit these other places? What order makes sense?

P.S.

I'm undecided about Toamasina. It was initially on my list because reports say the ladies are mostly black (my preference) and quite beautiful. However, I removed it after reading there is no swimming in its ocean due to sharks. Now I'm on the fence. Is Toamasina worth it? If yes, then where would it fit in the travel plan above?

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2718344]Planning my first trip to Mada. Will arrive next week and could spend up to 3 months. Only interested in places with beaches.

Based upon reports, it looks like Nosy Be is a good starting point for a first-timer like myself. I speak decent French and have a healthy budget, so I plan to also visit:
[LIST]Antsiranana[/LIST][LIST]Mahajanga[/LIST][LIST]Toliara[/LIST]
So my question. . . From Nosy Be, what is a logical travel plan to visit these other places? What order makes sense?

P.S.

I'm undecided about Toamasina. It was initially on my list because reports say the ladies are mostly black (my preference) and quite beautiful. However, I removed it after reading there is no swimming in its ocean due to sharks. Now I'm on the fence. Is Toamasina worth it? If yes, then where would it fit in the travel plan above?[/QUOTE]I never been to Nosy Be and Mahajanga, but a geographical plan would be if you start in Nosy Be to go to Mahajanga and at last to Toliara, which is full south of mada.

With 3 months you have time to experiment some coastal roads, but they are the worst based on my readings here, but they can give some so nice surprise, with some girls found in villages, maybe it could be a plan. At least from Morondava but take advices as I didn't experiment these ways very difficult and long.

Also, Mada has suffered a lot, as usual, but the covid period has surely added a lot of pain, without tourists many hotels could be closed now. So take advices from people who knows.

What I can talk about is the way to Toliara from Tana.

In Tana, I stayed at hotel Sole, quite nice, I had a good session with the girl doing massage inside the hotel, not usual apparently but she agreed!

I stayed also in Select Hotel, not so good but can be a choice too.

Excellent restaurant "Les Artistes" where you can find rooms also.

And LE Glacier which is the place to be at least once maybe.

Easiest could be by plane but you miss all sightseeing along the road 7 going to Toliara from mada via Antsirabe and Fianarantsoa.

This way by the road is long, better to plan 2 or 3 days with a stop in Fiana and Isalo National Park depending if you like to visit some beautiful landscape.

From Mada I took Cotisse, very good transport. After I had a driver with his car, he drove me to Isalo where we stayed one night "Chez Alice", very nice lodge, with a trek in Isalo Park.

Then drive again up to Toliara but be careful, some parts of this road are risky after 5 pm and at night, Dahalo's are targetting buses and sometimes taking some lifes in addition to all the belongings of passengers.

In Toliara stayed at Hotel Serena. From there you can walk in the evening to the avenue bord de mer, and have dinner at Etoile de Mer where you will see girls hanging along the avenue.

Then the best part, for me, I went to Ifaty by tuktuk, beautiful coral lagoon with so nice beaches, to Hotel Bella Donna, excellent place where you will find a french chef cooking like a Gault & Millau 3 stars!

2 rooms are on the shore, very quiet, and I took benefit of one masseuse, not the most beautiful, I tried several, but we had a very good fit between us, so every days I had my massage, very good, in the room, followed by a full service. So nice reminds.

I did a trip also to see the whales in the sea outside the lagoon, beautiful sight there. I went 2 times, 1st I didn't saw very well the whales, but second they were just close to us.

So, this was what I did, but was in 2018 so many things happen up to now. At least I know that Bella Donna is still there in Ifaty, so you should try, at least for the food.

And if you speak french no problem to manage all the trip.

Oh yeah, for anyone wanting to RTFF.

1. First learn the names and locations of the largest 8-10 Malgache cities AND their French synonyms by hard. People will use them interchangeably. If you do not know both you will be utterly confused. I didn't and had to RTFF twice.

You don't have to read the whole forum. You can start in 2017 and discount the corona period. Barring some exceptions it's mostly rubbish written by bored punters like myself.

Once you have pinpointed cites of interest you can fine tune by searching the whole forum by place in Malgache and French.

2. Itineraries should be thought of in time and comfort and not in distance. 70 km could take you between 1-10 hours depending on the area / road conditions.

3. Carefully take note of any taxi brousse offering designated seats, 1 person / 1 seat. Any other can bring you untold pain and misery and is at your own risk. Personally never again. I prefer hitchhiking instead.

4. Visit the Tsaradia website for local flights and learn which flights are on offer. There's a high probability you will need one.

5. If you are too lazy to RTFF read the posts written by Neddy69, Pokeris, Amadeuss, SouthEaster, Golfinho, the Expert and others.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2718344]Planning my first trip to Mada. Will arrive next week and could spend up to 3 months. Only interested in places with beaches.

Based upon reports, it looks like Nosy Be is a good starting point for a first-timer like myself. I speak decent French and have a healthy budget, so I plan to also visit:
[LIST]Antsiranana[/LIST][LIST]Mahajanga[/LIST][LIST]Toliara[/LIST]
I'm undecided about Toamasina. It was initially on my list because reports say the ladies are mostly black (my preference) and quite beautiful. However, I removed it after reading there is no swimming in its ocean due to sharks. Now I'm on the fence. Is Toamasina worth it? If yes, then where would it fit in the travel plan above?


[/QUOTE]

The main 4 punting areas are Tana (mainly nightclubs), Nosy Be, Tamatave and Tulear.

The vast majority of WG in any place are cotieres meaning coastal dwellers that have more African features. If I remember well the darkest girls can be found in the south.

I did a couple that could be described as half castes. One in the highlands in Antsirabe and one in Manakara.

BTW, didn't see any sunbathing or swimming in Tulear / Toliara either. The beach is dirty. You can go to Mangily but you have to take a taxi brousse to get there but it basically is just a small village with a nice beach.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2718382]BTW, didn't see any sunbathing or swimming in Tulear / Toliara either. The beach is dirty.[/QUOTE]Forget Toliara for beaches. Sambava and Tamatave have nice ones. You're not going to get shark eaten splashing around waist deep with a girl or three, even if you're an American that 'speaks decent French. ' Morondava has a beautiful beach -- one that gives dirty a whole new meaning. Check it out and reframe your frame of reference.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2718359]Dahalo's are targetting buses and sometimes taking some lifes in addition to all the belongings of passengers.

[/QUOTE]Albert9989, I appreciate the info. I would prefer to travel overland, but you mentioned the Dahalos targetting buses. Is this an issue across the whole country?

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2718382]The main 4 punting areas are Tana (mainly nightclubs), Nosy Be, Tamatave and Tulear. . . BTW, didn't see any sunbathing or swimming in Tulear / Toliara either. The beach is dirty. You can go to Mangily but you have to take a taxi brousse to get there but it basically is just a small village with a nice beach.[/QUOTE]Tailpipe, thank you for the details. Good to know about the dirty beaches in Tulear (Toliara). So maybe I'll focus on Nosy Be, Antsiranana (Diego Suarez), and Mahajanga (Majunga). From there, I'll play it by ear.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2718386]Forget Toliara for beaches. Sambava and Tamatave have nice ones. You're not going to get shark eaten splashing around waist deep with a girl or three.[/QUOTE]

Golfinho, both you and Tailpipe have said Tulear (Toliara) is not the best beach destination, so it's now out. Replaced it with Sambava. And good point about the sharks, so I'll check out Tamatave (Toamasina).

Updated list for beach trip, in order:
[list]Nosy Be[/list][list]Mahajanga (Majunga)[/list][list]Antsiranana (Diego Suarez)[/list][list]Sambava[/list][list]Toamasina (Tamatave)[/list]

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2718480]Albert9989, I appreciate the info. I would prefer to travel overland, but you mentioned the Dahalos targetting buses. Is this an issue across the whole country?

[/QUOTE]There are many roads which are qualified as dangerous, at least it was the case when I was there in 2018, but all drivers knows, and they will tell you if you can or not take that road and at what time.

Antsirabe to Morondava road for example was also a road to take during day only.

But at the end, if you follow the advices of knowing people nothing will happen, you just have to be aware and not decide to go anywhere without taking care.

Last point is about beaches.

I agree fully that Toliara / Tulear doesn't have beaches, but we don't go there for beaches, its the place to meet girls and there was a great choice there.

But at about 1/2 HR distance with a good road, you have Mangily or Ifaty, and there you can find a marvellous beach.

I add some pics, one from Google maps showing were is Ifaty from Tulear, and the other taken from inside a cottage which is on the beach, at Hotel Bella Donna in Ifaty.

If you find a good girl in Tulear then you can bring her there in Ifaty and spend some marvellous days and nights, or you can just decide to rest a bit there.

You can also stay in Ifaty and do the go and back to Tulear during the day to get some girls and bring them back. Some can be found also in the ifaty village at evening.

So, up to you, depend how you want to spend your time. 3 months is a lot, you have time to go in many places.

Morondava also has nice beaches and nice girls, good to check. But road is a bit long. Close to there you have the famous Baobab Alley, good to give a visit also.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2718480]Albert9989, I appreciate the info. I would prefer to travel overland, but you mentioned the Dahalos targetting buses. Is this an issue across the whole country?

Tailpipe, thank you for the details. Good to know about the dirty beaches in Tulear (Toliara). So maybe I'll focus on Nosy Be, Antsiranana (Diego Suarez), and Mahajanga (Majunga). From there, I'll play it by ear.



Golfinho, both you and Tailpipe have said Tulear (Toliara) is not the best beach destination, so it's now out. Replaced it with Sambava. And good point about the sharks, so I'll check out Tamatave (Toamasina).

Updated list for beach trip, in order:
[list]Nosy Be[/list][list]Mahajanga (Majunga)[/list][list]Antsiranana (Diego Suarez)[/list][list]Sambava[/list][list]Toamasina (Tamatave)[/list][/QUOTE]Neither Diego nor Sambava do have beaches for swimming. Its not only about the sharks but more of the strong waves and currents. That refers to the whole east coast. However, an upcoming place is Saklava Bay near Diego: a home for kiters. You can find new hotels (rooms above 50. - a nice fine sand beach, a lot of wind for kiting but not much on nightlife, except you wish to fuck a backpacker girl there.

Near Tamatave you can visit Fenerive. The beach there is gentle and you can find nice beach cottages. Or go further to Ile St Marie: beautiful beaches, boutique hotels and willing girls not in bars but just from the brousse. Go explore.

Took a look at the Tsaradia website. Any interior flight lands or departs from Tana now. There used to be a flight from Nosy - Antsiranana, Tamatave - Sainte-Marie and Toliara - Toalagnaro. Maybe they'll reinstate them in the future idk.

Imo the Ministry of Sex Tourism ought to organise direct flights between Nosy Be, Toliara and Tamatave. Would make life a lot easier!

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2718512]Morondava also has nice beaches and nice girls, good to check. . . But at the end, if you follow the advices of knowing people nothing will happen, you just have to be aware and not decide to go anywhere without taking care. . . Last point is about beaches. . .[/QUOTE]Albert9989, thank you again. The smaller seaside towns you mentioned sound good: Morandava, Mangily, Sakava Bay, and Ifaty. And Tulear is worth a look, even if the beaches aren't great. As for overland transport, I'll follow the advice of locals, as you recommend.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2718716]Took a look at the Tsaradia website. Any interior flight lands or departs from Tana now. There used to be a flight from Nosy - Antsiranana, Tamatave - Sainte-Marie and Toliara - Toalagnaro. Maybe they'll reinstate them in the future idk.[/QUOTE]

TailPipe, I see the flights which all connect in Tana as of now. Will continue to watch the schedule to see if they bring back the direct flights between other cities.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2718734]Albert9989, thank you again. The smaller seaside towns you mentioned sound good: Morandava, Mangily, Sakava Bay, and Ifaty. And Tulear is worth a look, even if the beaches aren't great. As for overland transport, I'll follow the advice of locals, as you recommend.



TailPipe, I see the flights which all connect in Tana as of now. Will continue to watch the schedule to see if they bring back the direct flights between other cities.[/QUOTE]You can't dick around with flights --they're aren't many and they sell out. It's also impossible to use credit card issued by US bank and they don't take Mastercard only Visa.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2718771]You can't dick around with flights --they're aren't many and they sell out. It's also impossible to use credit card issued by US bank and they don't take Mastercard only Visa.[/QUOTE]Sorry but these are fake news!

2 weeks ago they charged my MasterCard (issued by an european bank) with 1 mio MGA for my flight TANA. TOLIARA and back in October.

Zero problems.