[QUOTE=BlackThought;2583115]Someone with a lot of time on his hands, but no money would clearly miss the point I was making. Not surprised.[/QUOTE]For not sharing your non-existent "point" jajajajajaaaaaa.
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[QUOTE=BlackThought;2583115]Someone with a lot of time on his hands, but no money would clearly miss the point I was making. Not surprised.[/QUOTE]For not sharing your non-existent "point" jajajajajaaaaaa.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2583078]Speaking from first-hand experience? This one actually sounds plausible.[/QUOTE]If you want me to flex my ego for you, I will.
Trust me if I go in there, they are all cumming out for me jajajajjajajaaaa, I know this from experience with other mongers around the world.
We go in separately and the line up has less hot putas for some of them, but more for me.
Never vice versa.
Some very hot putas only work in places with this option so they don't need to go with mongers like you!
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2583242]I like them around 30, not an 18 year old cheerleader that can't take the lumber. A nasty horny 30 year old will give me a run for my money, an 18 year old will just be to giggly for me. On the other hand though, an 18 year old as you described with a killer body can be a hell of a turn if you engage them to explore their sexuality. I find it interesting how varied everyone's personal tastes are in women, with no taste being right or wrong.[/QUOTE]Unless you are just being facetious, most 30 yo putas around the world have too much cock mileage for me, and god knows how many babies they've shit out.
Regardless of how grande we are, 18 yo vaginas can take it, they were made to push out babies the size of basketballs LOL.
Unless you're talking about that midget that hangs around parque Bolivar.
I think if I stuck it in her, I would push her organs out of her mouth and asshole jajjajaja.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2582868]It's a roll of the dice man. But this is something simple you can do: agree to pay for "el carro" (DiDi, InDriver, Uber) and from your place. If the chick shows up not looking like her photos, or if you get that the vibe is off, do not try to engage in sex and just tell her you will give her money for her taxi back home. No harm, no foul.
Don't always go by vibe though. Some chicas arrive and we don't have much to say. But then it ends up being a wild time in the sack and turns out to be something you almost missed out on, LOL.[/QUOTE]Well put. Maybe I've been jumping the gun too much. Cause on the flipside sometimes really cute girls you have a great connection with are terrible in bed. It's unfortunate those don't always correlate jaja.
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2583314]My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.
I had hoped to return to MDE earlier in 2021, but the combination of Colombian and USA Testing requirements deterred me. By the time that I overcame this reluctance, MDE renewed restrictions for Easter and then riots started. The coast was clear in June, with the lifting of MDE restrictions and the PCR requirement and the end of riots. I fulfilled the USA Test requirement with an at-home antigen test from a USA Lab. I bought them online, took one to MDE, and did it in my crib with the lab via webcam. This resolved my concerns about a botched test yielding a false positive and triggering quarantine.[/QUOTE]First off yes that mde forum with FB girls was a huge help. Too bad. Maybe it will revive.
I stated in my two month trip in January that this was happening. The "in demand" girls of FB will not budge off 250 mil. And I would see their hottest friends and that's an additional 50 mil commission.
For me the convenience of FB girls is discretion.
During the peak of the pandemic the girls found a way to make money in other ways.
I don't see these girls coming down in price until they become real real desperate.
There's at least 3 girls that were on Vane's list 3 years ago that are now charging 500 mil and up and totally full of themselves.
I give them credit for their hustle and being smart enough to better their life. But it does become unfortunate for mongers.
But 250 mil now and 200 mil a few years ago is about the same damage in USD.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2583239]Centro most definitely is not for guys whose preferences are for very hot and pretty chicas, albeit there are a few. For guys without a "must" to have a killer pretty faced Chica, there's a lot to be had there, if you have the time and patience to work the place.[/QUOTE]It depends on what "Centro" you are talking about. All you do is street, and regarding that, probably what you say is true. Regarding the downtown casas and strip clubs, there's more than "a few," and they tend to be natural.
As to the "very hot and pretty chicas" in the tourist areas, well, often once the clothes come off she's Frankenstein's daughter with scars to prove it, and that 9 suddenly becomes a 2. Further downgrades may be in order once the makeup is removed. Yet admittedly, after some drinks, a lot of guys aren't going to notice or care. Wink.
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Facebook and discretion are mutually exclusive. Even Zuckerberg admits it now.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2583371]First off yes that mde forum with FB girls was a huge help. Too bad. Maybe it will revive.
I stated in my two month trip in January that this was happening. The "in demand" girls of FB will not budge off 250 mil. And I would see their hottest friends and that's an additional 50 mil commission.
For me the convenience of FB girls is discretion.
During the peak of the pandemic the girls found a way to make money in other ways.
I don't see these girls coming down in price until they become real real desperate.
There's at least 3 girls that were on Vane's list 3 years ago that are now charging 500 mil and up and totally full of themselves.
I give them credit for their hustle and being smart enough to better their life. But it does become unfortunate for mongers.
But 250 mil now and 200 mil a few years ago is about the same damage in USD.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2583244]Great report, we usually see first time reports asking stupid questions which could of been answered if the poster had RTFF.
Anyways, working on your Spanish will greatly enhance your experience's in Colombia which you figured out.[/QUOTE]What did you use to learn Spanish? Private tutor? Classes? Language learning app like Duolingo?
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2583314]My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.
[/QUOTE]Thanks. This was a very interesting, thorough and analytic report- the verbiage was similar to the deliverables from a professional consultancy firm. I wonder what your career is.
My question is: why- given all the trouble with online methodologies- do you revert to them? There is a way to avoid flaking and catfishing- pull from Lleras, Gustos, Fase Dose, the Casa's, etc. The girls are there- observable and available to interact. You know what you are going to get physically and in terms of service.
In a way this is a general question to all the Medellin lovers as well. I don't really see how this scene can be considered superlative when so much of it is based on bird-dogging insta, tinder, SA, facebook etc, and setting yourself up for disappointment, flakery, catfishing, etc. That seems like all I've been reading about here lately. Bottom line- too much time and mental energy is wasted in the procurement process. And as you say- flaking is not simply a cultural feature- it's just blatant disrespect. I cannot engage in transactions where my value is consistently dis-regarded.
Earlier this summer I was in Brazil, and have previously traveled extensively in SEA. After experiencing all three of these regions, my feeling is Colombia / Caribbean is the weakest generally- and especially for mongers who do not have the time to deal with the aforementioned BS of chasing girls online and just sitting hopelessly at home as they fail to show or otherwise flake. In a terma in Brazil, you go there, select a girl and fuck. In soi 6 in Pattaya- the girls is there, you select her, and fuck. In bars in Angeles City- you go- select a girl- bring her back, fuck. None of these options involve pacing back and forth in your room like some hopeless chump-hoping that she will actually show. None of these options involve being confused with fake photos. None of these options are marred by uncertainty as to what acts will be performed as that is all communicated up front.
Again, it begs the question as to why Medellin lovers continue to put up with this format and the destination in general? Are they simply unware there are other options? Doesn't seem likely as many contributors here are extremely well traveled and experienced. Maybe the answer is that many people are able to make the online work for them- to which I say good job.
Perhaps someone with experience in multiple regions like me can chime in as to what makes Medellin / Colombia so special given the above considerations. Personally I don't see it and will be only returning if other options are unavailable.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2583148]For those that have been to both Cartagena and Medellin: are there vendors and locals following you around in Medellin, just like they do in Cartagena? Had a guy try to put his arms around me and hug me; I did a quick 360 spin and then walked away.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Cartagena, but I experienced that problem in Sosua. I've rarely had touts, vendors or beggars, who wouldn't leave me alone after a few seconds, in Medellin. One guy at the Prado metro station got pretty loud and slightly threatening until I stood up and told him to fuck off. But the Prado metro station probably isn't the best place to hang out waiting for someone.
A few in Parque Lleras don't give up easily, but nothing too annoying.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2583239]Centro most definitely is not for guys whose preferences are for very hot and pretty chicas, albeit there are a few. For guys without a "must" to have a killer pretty faced Chica, there's a lot to be had there, if you have the time and patience to work the place.[/QUOTE]I'm going to disagree, slightly.
There are hot and pretty chicas everywhere in Medellin. Whether or not they are available is a different story. If you find yourself in a place where you don't see any hot and pretty chicas, ask the guy standing next to you to take his hand off your dick so you can get out of the gay bar you accidentally walked into.
However, there are guys who can't handle the rawness of El Centro. Nothing wrong with that, it's more of an acquired taste. It can be intimidating, especially for those who speak no Spanish.
No matter where you source your chicas in Medellin, you've got some sifting to do. There used to be a girl working Parque Lleras that I called Frankenstein. Bad plastic surgery all over. She would have had trouble making money in the Veracruz alley, but every night she was working Lleras.
If you go to the Mansion there will be some who won't meet your minimum requirements. Same with Gusto, La Isla and everywhere else. Maybe Loutron is an exception. And we all know that the casas are hit or miss. Facebook, Tinder, Photoprepagos, even SA, has winners and losers.
My advice is to find the environment which suits you, rather than chasing everywhere looking for the gem someone else found. Whether your ideal environment is Gusto or Raudal, if you put in the time, you'll find what you're looking for.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2582813]They like you, you bring money into their country.[/QUOTE]I didn't go back to read exactly what I wrote, but I am pretty sure I indicated I was talking about my immigration attorney in the USA. He's from Bogota, he's never been to Medellin, and I've already promised to hook him up. So even though what you say may be true, it does not apply to this example. But thank you for playing.
Now to the important shite, I will have boots on the ground in MDE in 48 hours, if the Cosmic Blueberry Muffin is willing. Other than a face mask, I am not anticipating any special requirements on the way down. American Airlines is trying to get me to sign up for free "Veri-Fly" where you upload all you medical documentation on-line. I dunno, if I have time maybe I will give it a whirl.
Gratuitous foto, I was at the laundramat doing the last load before travel, and mi novia video called me on Whassap, and for the first time it dawned on me I could grab screenshots. That's our second dog, the first one got run over by a moto. I don't know anyone who has gotten run over by a car in Medellin. I know three people who got hit by motos while traffic was stopped, but the motos were zinging in between the lanes. Watch out for that, it's dangerous.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2583148]For those that have been to both Cartagena and Medellin: are there vendors and locals following you around in Medellin, just like they do in Cartagena? Had a guy try to put his arms around me and hug me; I did a quick 360 spin and then walked away.[/QUOTE]It was a huge problem in Cartagena, crazy amount of vendor who tries to grub me. It was much better in Medellin, there are still vendor but I haven't had anyone who followed me for a few blocks. Its usually ask twice then walk away.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2583387]My question is: why- given all the trouble with online methodologies- do you revert to them? Bottom line- too much time and mental energy is wasted in the procurement process. And as you say- flaking is not simply a cultural feature- it's just blatant disrespect.[/QUOTE]I consider Medellin the best mongering destination I have been to on seven continents. Technically, I could not find any mongering in Antarctica. But I don't have any social media accounts, and I agree with you that I would not be happy with many of the mongering experiences described here. I have a Colombian girlfriend, but I still monger my brains out when she does not know I am in town. And girls don't flake on me because 80-90% are repeats. I disagree to say it's not cultural. Being late for a Colombiana is considered normal and they do it because they think it increases desire, and if you really want them, you will wait. When it comes to hardcore prepagos, it simply boils down to pesos and you have to accept that you have competition and no loyalty with a new girl.
Being frustrated over chicas flaking is pointless. What is more realistic, that the mores of entire country will change to meet your non-Colombian expectation or that you adapt? Or you can choose not to adapt and travel elsewhere, that's your choice. Tell them you want to see them two hours before you really do and it evens out, jajaja.
What makes a mongering destination special for one individual can include a lot of personal factors that don't translate to others. The stars align, certain pieces to the puzzle fall in place. There may not be any such thing as Utopia, Nirvana, Heaven-On-Earth, Shangrila, Shambala, or the Garden of Eden, but Medellin will be as close as it gets for me on this planet. I can easily believe it might not be that way for others. I would like to keep MDE under the radar, if it was up to me and deflect Gringos elsewhere. So please, go ahead, tell everyone they can do better than MDE. Ostee Out.
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2583314]A key selling point of MDE's Facebook scene for me was that it yielded consistent but moderate quality at medium prices, compared to the extremes of Cartagena and Bogota. I now find this selling point to be less true than before, as prices increase while quality and reliability decrease. It is frustrating and ironic to sit in your crib with many hot girls blowing up your phone for a cita as you wait around for the one that you chose to not show up, or to show up an hour late and deliver a half-assed performance at a higher price. This frustrating irony makes Santa Fe in Bogota, with its lower prices and the opportunity to scope out and pull girls in person and on the spot, an increasingly appealing alternative. The many stacked girls in Santa Fe are also a better fit for my personal tastes than the MDE flacas.[/QUOTE]One of the things I am still confuse about facebook is which one of the girls to approach. I did the add contact, go through their friend list, find other people to add for weeks now and I have about 400+ contact. I also read from the forum, the one showing money, devil horns are usually available. However there are tons with just pictures of themselves and it just seem impossible for me to tell. I tried messaging them before my last trip, and some ignore, which I just take it as they know what's going on and is not interested, but some answer 3 or 4 days later. I was also assume the ones that said in a relationship, married etc is not available, but the girl I pull from Parque Lleras added me on facebook, and it said married and their are tons of picture of her and who I assume is her husband.