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[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2305857]an ass one meter wide stuffed . I am sure there are guys out there who adore that kind of body shape and that is good since then we don't all hunt the slim ones.[/QUOTE]Right on, brother! Extra wide load my dad used to call them. I'll take slim and stacked any day but man, if she's got the extra large jugs I might not mind the extra cushion for the pushing.
[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2306527]So maybe I can get her to squat over the petri dish? other types of cheese? Mascarpone for example? [/QUOTE]LMAOOOOO! Man you made my daily big laugh! I just imagine the scene, her pushing and even farting
[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2306527]Well, firstly a few questions, I've never actually seen big discharge, some have been more moist than others, but actual honest to god discharge, not really. So I guess I could take a few swabs and a few petri dishes on my next adventure.
One question, these colors, is there some kind of pantone guide I could use to identify the various flavors of these maladies? You know bright red or mild yellow, is it time of the month or is it cancer. Tough call.
So maybe I can get her to squat over the petri dish? Or perhaps swab her down first. As I don't know the outcome of the tests, maybe its best if I'm in full hazmat outfit.
Certainly its a good idea to give someone exuding cottage cheese a wide berth. Where do we stand on other types of cheese? Mascarpone for example? Pass on her as well?[/QUOTE]My uncle gave me a similar pamphlet to this and a box of those clinic rubbers when I went off to college. I use to think it was funny as shit until the team THOT paid me a visit.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2305677]Before you laugh at the the "fat", you have got to remember that there is a certain demand for certain body types in certain circles. So watch, so others do not get miffed. Besides, do not know where you are from but there are far uglier things in the US, thanks to our factory food.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Sosua for ten years. Definitely know that there is a demand for heavier girls. There are a lot of big black guys that could lose a lot of pounds. Where am I from. Beaches of Southern California. I am skinny.
I don't care what the girls weight because we all have our type. So guys like heavy or slim. To each their own style. I was just trying to describe the weight of the girls walking the street.
But I did notice that when it was 5-10 years ago. I could find probably 5-10 skinny girls in Classico at 2 am. Where today it might be one or two at that time. You just have to make adjustments.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2308125]I have been going to Sosua for ten years. Definitely know that there is a demand for heavier girls. There are a lot of big black guys that could lose a lot of pounds. Where am I from. Beaches of Southern California. I am skinny.
I don't care what the girls weight because we all have our type. So guys like heavy or slim. To each their own style. I was just trying to describe the weight of the girls walking the street.
But I did notice that when it was 5-10 years ago. I could find probably 5-10 skinny girls in Classico at 2 am. Where today it might be one or two at that time. You just have to make adjustments.[/QUOTE]In the freelance market of Sosua, it is just a function of supply and demand.
I personally see more Americans coming to Sosua than ever before, who prefer the big booty.
It's supposed to be the slower season but the number of Americans here are keeping the business here thriving! The snowbirds seeking to escape the gruelling northern winters, have mostly gone back to warmer temperatures, leaving mostly ex pats like me.
The chica's are simply taking advantage of the current market conditions on the strip, and shaking and showing everything they have in the booty department.
There are still a few slim hot ones around for guys like us, so it's all good!
Where I'm staying there are some really old fart ex pats, who are bringing amazingly beautiful (to me) slim young ones to the pool everyday, I'm almost jealous!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2308221]In the freelance market of Sosua, it is just a function of supply and demand.
I personally see more Americans coming to Sosua than ever before, who prefer the big booty.
It's supposed to be the slower season but the number of Americans here are keeping the business here thriving! The snowbirds seeking to escape the gruelling northern winters, have mostly gone back to warmer temperatures, leaving mostly ex pats like me.
The chica's are simply taking advantage of the current market conditions on the strip, and shaking and showing everything they have in the booty department.
There are still a few slim hot ones around for guys like us, so it's all good!
Where I'm staying there are some really old fart ex pats, who are bringing amazingly beautiful (to me) slim young ones to the pool everyday, I'm almost jealous![/QUOTE]I totally agree that they are slim girls there for the taking. My friend loves the slim girls and I love them borderline thick. We don't compete against each other which is lovely. But he has no problems finding multiple of slim girls. I don't get the constant catty remarks about big girls and who go with them. Every couple of months you get the same comments. Are you paying for their enjoyment? If not don't worry about it and keep it moving. Everyone is different. Personally I don't care. I see a certain ethnic group that is primarily with Haitian women. I pay it no mind because it's their vacation and not mine. I don't feel the need to go on social media and talk about it. For what? That's childish.
This might not be new news to some of the people on this forum. Since my last trip in September, I have seen a drastic change in some women asking prices. Women are now asking in american dollars and what they are asking is outrageous. They want 100 to 150 $ for the night. Last Sunday, there was suppose to be a concert at playa chiquita but the concert was cancelled due to the rapper being in a car accident. But some of the women who showed up was looking nice in their outfits. But I could not see paying that price but some people must be paying it if they are asking. Now I am in Santo Domingo, if anyone is around let me know. We can meet for some drinks. I am here until Monday.
1) Spent a week in Sosua. Flew in to Pto Pta and left via Santiago. The flight prices are ridiculous but as they say, "charge what the traffic can bear. ".
2) The food scenario for me has turned out to be rather shabby. Ever since the Italian chef GianLuca left at New Garden, food is reasonably dismal there. I tried the Austrian place. Once they knew what an Italian expresso was. The new local inductee brought me a cupful of expresso, instead of a spoonful. Yuk, and the tira-me-su was definitely not worth salivating on. The Germany bar and Grill was okay but the Canadian place at the main intersection. Boy I am not going there ever. And I asked for a mere decent hamburger (their big mac)!
3) By the way, I tried that idiotic Jamaican restaurant in front of Casa Valeria for their Curry Goat. They had the gall of charging me a whopping 850 pesos while goat in a typical Dominican place is 350 pesos. Still pricey as goat is considered the priciest compared to pork / chicken / beef. Stupid me, I should have asked for the price before sitting down. I had a place to cook and so in desperation, I bought some goat meat (which too is frozen, unlike the fresh cuts in Santiago) and cooked. Fish too in Sosua is mostly frozen so the only way one could eat it, is as fried. Fried, as we all know, everything is rendered good including shoes. As an Italian saying goes.
4) The good news was the mangoes. There was a large variety and I devoured quite a load. The other good news were the women, even though I had 2 poor experiences with newbies. Generally never paid more than 2000 and on occasions, 1000 but I treat them well. Beer / juice, food where applicable and a small gift. I also must repeat that I never pick women from the streets and hence NEVER negotiate. Most women, came during the day and at night, I slept alone.
5) Noticed quite a few of the young women are smoking including the new fangled vapor gizmo but regular cigarillos as well. It is curious how the US, so quickly engulfs the smaller cultures, things that are "cool" and bad for you quickly became part of another culture. The rise in fat, is another clear indication of that colonialism. Soda is ubiquitous as are all things fried and just like the inner cities in the US, veg and fruits are way too expensive to be affordable. Add the alcohol. No wonder women turn out to be fat within a short space of time. I gave mangoes to a girl who on her next trip back told me that those were nice and sweet. Imagine that, in a place where mangoes are everywhere.
6) Even though, it has been routine by now to hobnob with 20 somethings, I realize that at home, it would be hard to find anything lower than 30 and the mind games, not to speak of my pocket. I guess I will continue to indulge in the pleasure the Good Lord has allowed me to partake in, pure happenstance, until I cannot. Long live La Republica Dominican!
[QUOTE=Confiable;2310209]This might not be new news to some of the people on this forum. Since my last trip in September, I have seen a drastic change in some women asking prices. Women are now asking in american dollars and what they are asking is outrageous. They want 100 to 150 $ for the night.[/QUOTE]How much was this chick asking? I think I saw her or either her cousin last time I rolled through Sosua.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2310327]1) Spent a week in Sosua. Flew in to Pto Pta and left via Santiago. The flight prices are ridiculous but as they say, "charge what the traffic can bear. ".
2) The food scenario for me has turned out to be rather shabby. Ever since the Italian chef GianLuca left at New Garden, food is reasonably dismal there. I tried the Austrian place. Once they knew what an Italian expresso was. The new local inductee brought me a cupful of expresso, instead of a spoonful. Yuk, and the tira-me-su was definitely not worth salivating on. The Germany bar and Grill was okay but the Canadian place at the main intersection. Boy I am not going there ever. And I asked for a mere decent hamburger (their big mac)!
3) By the way, I tried that idiotic Jamaican restaurant in front of Casa Valeria for their Curry Goat. They had the gall of charging me a whopping 850 pesos while goat in a typical Dominican place is 350 pesos. Still pricey as goat is considered the priciest compared to pork / chicken / beef. Stupid me, I should have asked for the price before sitting down. I had a place to cook and so in desperation, I bought some goat meat (which too is frozen, unlike the fresh cuts in Santiago) and cooked. Fish too in Sosua is mostly frozen so the only way one could eat it, is as fried. Fried, as we all know, everything is rendered good including shoes. As an Italian saying goes.
4) The good news was the mangoes. There was a large variety and I devoured quite a load. The other good news were the women, even though I had 2 poor experiences with newbies. Generally never paid more than 2000 and on occasions, 1000 but I treat them well. Beer / juice, food where applicable and a small gift. I also must repeat that I never pick women from the streets and hence NEVER negotiate. Most women, came during the day and at night, I slept alone.
5) Noticed quite a few of the young women are smoking including the new fangled vapor gizmo but regular cigarillos as well. It is curious how the US, so quickly engulfs the smaller cultures, things that are "cool" and bad for you quickly became part of another culture. The rise in fat, is another clear indication of that colonialism. Soda is ubiquitous as are all things fried and just like the inner cities in the US, veg and fruits are way too expensive to be affordable. Add the alcohol. No wonder women turn out to be fat within a short space of time. I gave mangoes to a girl who on her next trip back told me that those were nice and sweet. Imagine that, in a place where mangoes are everywhere.
6) Even though, it has been routine by now to hobnob with 20 somethings, I realize that at home, it would be hard to find anything lower than 30 and the mind games, not to speak of my pocket. I guess I will continue to indulge in the pleasure the Good Lord has allowed me to partake in, pure happenstance, until I cannot. Long live La Republica Dominican![/QUOTE]There's huge turnover in ownership, chefs and serving staff at most Sosua Restaurants. Food is inconsistent, service can be indifferent and menus change weekly.
The good news is it keeps the place from being boring as there are always new venues popping up with surprisingly good stuff (for a while anyway).
It's like the huge turnover in putas, never boring, and always a nice surpise or two to be found. Keeps the place interesting!
Latest for pizza lovers, Ciebo, quality and authentic! Forget the rest right now!
Street food from a few regularstands who have been around forever is always consistent and fresh and cheap. Those are the ones that set up at noon, and close down after 8 or so! Nothing kept over!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2310332]How much was this chick asking? I think I saw her or either her cousin last time I rolled through Sosua.[/QUOTE]LOL. You can have her all to yourself. I'll pass.
I have always been a big fan of baileys pizza at one time best I had ever had. Last 2 times not up to my expectation. One of my favs now Sinatras breakfast and it 2 for one deals twice a week.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2310535]There's huge turnover in ownership, chefs and serving staff at most Sosua Restaurants. Food is inconsistent, service can be indifferent and menus change weekly.
The good news is it keeps the place from being boring as there are always new venues popping up with surprisingly good stuff (for a while anyway).
It's like the huge turnover in putas, never boring, and always a nice surpise or two to be found. Keeps the place interesting!
Latest for pizza lovers, Ciebo, quality and authentic! Forget the rest right now!
Street food from a few regularstands who have been around forever is always consistent and fresh and cheap. Those are the ones that set up at noon, and close down after 8 or so! Nothing kept over![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2310332]How much was this chick asking? I think I saw her or either her cousin last time I rolled through Sosua.[/QUOTE]This is my type of women. You can easly find this type of body style or smaller in sosua or all over DR. People like to exaggerate that the big fat girls are the prime targets. I have friends that go more than I do to sosua. They are the selective type and if sosua didn't have their type they wouldn't go as much as they do.
I would give that body, tops 7 (Caveat: no baby belly and nice face). I can see from her arms that she has a bit of a extra BMI. I haven't been to Sousa yet but if that's 9 in DR then the bar is low or maybe I am spoiled. To you fellas who have been around, how does DR rank to Brazil or Colombia ratio wise? I have been those countries and the clubs are a majority of above 7. 5 to 9, slims waist, fat ass, and zero belly fat. Thou my issue with Colombia was the high amount of fake ass. The country I rank the highest is actually Morocco, basically 90% of the girls out in the clubs were 9 in my book and all natural (cute face, slim waist, fat ass).
[QUOTE=Confiable;2310763]This is my type of women. You can easly find this type of body style or smaller in sosua or all over DR. People like to exaggerate that the big fat girls are the prime targets. I have friends that go more than I do to sosua. They are the selective type and if sosua didn't have their type they wouldn't go as much as they do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2311137]I would give that body, tops 7 (Caveat: no baby belly and nice face). I can see from her arms that she has a bit of a extra BMI. I haven't been to Sousa yet but if that's 9 in DR then the bar is low or maybe I am spoiled. To you fellas who have been around, how does DR rank to Brazil or Colombia ratio wise? I have been those countries and the clubs are a majority of above 7. 5 to 9, slims waist, fat ass, and zero belly fat. Thou my issue with Colombia was the high amount of fake ass. The country I rank the highest is actually Morocco, basically 90% of the girls out in the clubs were 9 in my book and all natural (cute face, slim waist, fat ass).[/QUOTE]Who said she was from sosua? If you have to ask about a 9 in the DR. I have to question if you ever been. Brazil / Columbia been there plenty of times. DR has girls on there level just not the quantity. You are talking about an island and comparing it to the size of brasil and columbia. There is no comparison. They have the quantity and quality.
It's relaxing in the Sue; I am in the bar downstairs from Classico and I was just quoted $150 for all night. I swear since some fool broughtthose strippers here prices haven't been quoted the same.
I am planning to STI and go to Sosua. Please suggest some good place to stay for 3 days where all the actions are. I want to try Blackbeards but they sold over Sat and Sun. Hotels charge guest fee? You can PM me some details that will be great.
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2299733]Hey guys,
I just wrapped up 7 days in Sosua. There is definitely a lot of action there. The streets are pretty busy at night. The police had a pretty strong presence all over the strip but didn't really seem to be bothering anyone. The street girls are not really my thing. I love to watch them but in this trip and also my last I had very good luck with girls I found on social media, mostly badoo. For short term it seems like the girls ask for 3000 but will come for 2000. I did have a fantastic toda la noche for 3000. One thing to note, I flew in to STI and my plan was to take an uber to Sosua. Uber was around 2000 pesos but when the driver showed up he wanted more money, he said 75 dollars total for that trip so I got upset and said forget it. He would not cancel so I couldn't get another uber. I ended up taking a taxi which was 85 dollars I think. After doing the trip I don't think anyone is doing that run for 40 dollars. Anyway just be mindful that uber doesn't always work flawlessly there. All in all it was fantastic trip. 4 girls over 7 days, some of them multiple times. Great food, great fun, and as always a great value. The Europa front desk was giving 50 pesos to 1 USA Dollar. I plan to return soon![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Confiable;2311143]Who said she was from sosua? If you have to ask about a 9 in the DR. I have to question if you ever been. Brazil / Columbia been there plenty of times. DR has girls on there level just not the quantity. You are talking about an island and comparing it to the size of brasil and columbia. There is no comparison. They have the quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]Of course I considered her to be from Sousa. Don't you think it is kinda stupid to post a pic on the Sousa thread without stating any additional information and expect people to read your mind on where she may be from or located, by the way that was a rhetorical question. Sorry if I hurt your feelings with my ratings.
I bumped into two black women, rather on the rotund side in terms of size, at Playero at the closing hour one evening. They were dressed scantily drawing attention to themselves, also with their long false eyelashes etc. They had a Haitian looking man with them who spoke some English and had picked a bottle of Hennessy cognac, which I later found to be rather pricey. In any case, these women, and I stood behind them on the check out line, was asking the man, if there was a "food stamp" card that was available in the DR. One of these women then went on to pay and used her card but it would not work. After a lot of attempts, when it still did not go through, I had enough and changed line and told her that her "food stamp" would not work, all the more so, if she was buying alcohol. Anywhere. I wonder if these two were part of that fistful of exotica trying their luck off shore. Certainly not worth worth more than 25 bucks, but if you are in love with an English speaking foreigner in Sosua, that might be your cuppa tea.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2311137]I would give that body, tops 7 (Caveat: no baby belly and nice face). I can see from her arms that she has a bit of a extra BMI. I haven't been to Sousa yet but if that's 9 in DR then the bar is low or maybe I am spoiled. To you fellas who have been around, how does DR rank to Brazil or Colombia ratio wise? I have been those countries and the clubs are a majority of above 7. 5 to 9, slims waist, fat ass, and zero belly fat. Thou my issue with Colombia was the high amount of fake ass. The country I rank the highest is actually Morocco, basically 90% of the girls out in the clubs were 9 in my book and all natural (cute face, slim waist, fat ass).[/QUOTE]Don. T even mention the DR in the same sentence as Brazil! As a vet of both places I can say with 100% confidence that I would never set foot in the DR if the plane ticket prices to Rio werent so damn expensive!! I have been going to th DR for about 9 years now and in all that time I have only seen 1 girl in SD who could compare to the females in Rio. We won't even begin to talk about Sex skills with all the "LECHE LECHE PAPI" girls in Sosua.
This year I would love to travel to Colombia to see how it compares to the other two countries! With decent flights out of JFK, It may be a long time before I go back if Cartegena is decent.
[QUOTE=Jayson01;2311487]Of course I considered her to be from Sousa. Don't you think it is kinda stupid to post a pic on the Sousa thread without stating any additional information and expect people to read your mind on where she may be from or located, by the way that was a rhetorical question. Sorry if I hurt your feelings with my ratings.[/QUOTE]No it wouldn't be stupid. People on this board do it all the time. A picture of a girl? Majority of girls in Sosua are not from Sosua. I guess you would know that if you been there. Obviously, you didn't read what I said about the picture. You only assumed. That shows your comprehension of reading and understanding. Hurt my feelings, please.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2311555]Don. T even mention the DR in the same sentence as Brazil! As a vet of both places I can say with 100% confidence that I would never set foot in the DR if the plane ticket prices to Rio werent so damn expensive!! I have been going to th DR for about 9 years now and in all that time I have only seen 1 girl in SD who could compare to the females in Rio. We won't even begin to talk about Sex skills with all the "LECHE LECHE PAPI" girls in Sosua.
This year I would love to travel to Colombia to see how it compares to the other two countries! With decent flights out of JFK, It may be a long time before I go back if Cartegena is decent.[/QUOTE]One girl. That's very debatable.
Hell this will be my first time in the Dominican Republic I will be arriving in Santiago and finding my way to Sosua. I have been using tag and hi5 to get wasapp numbers and make contacts in both Sosua and Santiago I speak Spanish well so I am able to tell the ladies exactly what I am looking for on my vacation for pleasure. My question is how reliable are these girls some you can tell are pros and semi pros, and no I have not sent money. I have learned that from this sight.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2311555]Don. T even mention the DR in the same sentence as Brazil! As a vet of both places I can say with 100% confidence that I would never set foot in the DR if the plane ticket prices to Rio werent so damn expensive!! I have been going to th DR for about 9 years now and in all that time I have only seen 1 girl in SD who could compare to the females in Rio. We won't even begin to talk about Sex skills with all the "LECHE LECHE PAPI" girls in Sosua.
This year I would love to travel to Colombia to see how it compares to the other two countries! With decent flights out of JFK, It may be a long time before I go back if Cartegena is decent.[/QUOTE]Add Colombia to the list of countries not to be mentioned in the same sentence as the DR with.
I have been to all three (Brazil, DR and Colombia) and no shit last night (Sunday April 21st) the Colombian paisa chica I was with had a face of a doll, all natural, 22 yo cuite, and the sex was off the charts, just watching her pretty face as I nailed her was worth the admission in itself.
The Tall Man.
My results have been awesome. The ladies when they show up act like they hit the lottery. They are very compliant and willing to do anything you want for gifts and cash. I start the relationship by asking what gift they would like me to bring. As long as it is within my budget no problem. This makes the girls anxious to see you and their gift. Generally you are starting on the right foot. I also try to have discussions on sexual matters prior to meeting. Que te gusta en la cama is a winner Most girls try hard not to be hard core putas because the secretly want you to be their Novio and do not know how naive you may be. I enjoy getting full GFE and these girls are good to go. As long as you vet them with your good Spanish you will have a ball.
[QUOTE=Balto1;2311783]Hell this will be my first time in the Dominican Republic I will be arriving in Santiago and finding my way to Sosua. I have been using tag and hi5 to get wasapp numbers and make contacts in both Sosua and Santiago I speak Spanish well so I am able to tell the ladies exactly what I am looking for on my vacation for pleasure. My question is how reliable are these girls some you can tell are pros and semi pros, and no I have not sent money. I have learned that from this sight.[/QUOTE]
For each $1 spent in Dom Rep, I spend $1. 50 in Colombia and $2. 00 in Brazil. Performance of Brazilian girls is incomparable to any other destination. One thing that vexes me from time to time, is a level of disrespect and insults one can get or hear from Dominicans, something that would never happen in South America. Also, as I often repeat, imagine you have got a business card, and you present your business card to people you care about, family or old school friends. Which address would you like to be on your card? Sosua El Batey? Poblado, Medellin or maybe Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2311894]My results have been awesome. The ladies when they show up act like they hit the lottery. They are very compliant and willing to do anything you want for gifts and cash. I start the relationship by asking what gift they would like me to bring. As long as it is wjthin my budget no problem. This makes the girls anxious to see you and their gift. Generally you are starting on the right foot. I also try to have discussions on sexual matters prior to meeting. Que te gusta en la cama is a winner Most girls try hard not to be hard core putas because the secretly want you to be their Novio and do not know how nieve you may be. I enjoy getting full GFE and these girls are good to go. As long as you vet them with your good spanish you will have a ball.[/QUOTE]You start off by asking them what gift they want you to bring? You have to tell us what the ratio is. I bet that 99% start off asking for the latest iPhone, Laptop or Tablet? I can't imagine a Dominican woman asking for perfume or a dress from a gringo.
For those who will be there.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2312124]For those who will be there.[/QUOTE]Ummmmm, what's an "All White VIP Party"?
[QUOTE=Bravo;2311981]You start off by asking them what gift they want you to bring? You have to tell us what the ratio is. I bet that 99% start off asking for the latest iPhone, Laptop or Tablet? I can't imagine a Dominican woman asking for perfume or a dress from a gringo.[/QUOTE]Several chicas have asked me for perfume and sexy lingerie.
First I only buy what is affordable to me. However the girls love perfume. Alway thrilled to recieve them. This trip my blow job girl asked for books by Michelle Obamas and Oprah Wimphres. Total cost from Amazon 25 buck for hard cover. Another of my ladies in waiting asked for hair. I have bought $50 and $60 dollar smart phones $60 used chrome books. Most girls appreciate the gifts and show their gratitude. In fact they can ask for a million bucks but you can say exactly what you will or will not do.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2311981]You start off by asking them what gift they want you to bring? You have to tell us what the ratio is. I bet that 99% start off asking for the latest iPhone, Laptop or Tablet? I can't imagine a Dominican woman asking for perfume or a dress from a gringo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;2311981]You start off by asking them what gift they want you to bring? You have to tell us what the ratio is. I bet that 99% start off asking for the latest iPhone, Laptop or Tablet? I can't imagine a Dominican woman asking for perfume or a dress from a gringo.[/QUOTE]Dominican women can ask for anything, and do!
Personally, with my regular, I ignore all requests, and set my own limits by giving money, an occasional shopping trip to Playera or La Sirena, based on my own budget and services received, and good behaviour. LOL.
I limit my time with her to two or three days a week (at my age) on a regular basis, so she has to live her own life for most of the time independent from my support.
She, and a couple of her friends have grown comfortable with this arrangement, and I am under no obligation to pony up for rent, hospital costs or other expenses they incur from time to time.
But the little I give her on a regular basis, does make a difference in her life, and is appreciated. It was me who suggested out of the blue that she get running water up to the small third floor flat she shares with her kid, and occasional GF. For a hundred bucks she got it done in 2 weeks. There's also a small fridge in her place now from the money I gave her over the last 3 years. Now I can handle a few days at her place!
So flame me! Lol
When it comes to chicas, you either train them, or they will train you! But it's your dough, so you should always get the last word. Took a little effort and a few heart to heart conversations, and a willingness to walk away, but paid off and we are both very happy with the set up! I personally wouldn't change a thing!
(We share an ongoing joke between us - "Tu jefe en PP, pero mi jefe en Sosua" Lol)
As for monger's gifting, no hard and fast rules apply to everyone, but if a guy wants a fantasy GFE weekend, nothing wrong with him acting like a boyfriend, with little thoughtful gifts! All part of the fantasy!
As usual, IMHO and YMMV
[URL]https://elnuevodiario.com.do/desconocidos-asesinan-de-un-tiro-en-la-cabeza-a-canadiense-residente-en-sosua[/URL]
RIP. This Canadian expat lived in Villa La Mulata.
Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2312754][URL]https://elnuevodiario.com.do/desconocidos-asesinan-de-un-tiro-en-la-cabeza-a-canadiense-residente-en-sosua[/URL]
RIP. This Canadian expat lived in Villa La Mulata.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]Another case of a robbery gone wrong. The robbers tied up the victims and this guy got loose and tried attacking the robbers with a machete he had in the house. The robbers shot him.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2312754][URL]https://elnuevodiario.com.do/desconocidos-asesinan-de-un-tiro-en-la-cabeza-a-canadiense-residente-en-sosua[/URL]
RIP. This Canadian expat lived in Villa La Mulata.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]It's literally a jungle out there in that part of town.
Visitors and ex pats in Sosua can take for granted the relative safety of Sosua, with it's endless patrols of Tourist, Federales, Nationales policing. ATM guards with sawed off shotguns.
But they are there for a reason.
It is very important for ex pats, and visitors alike, to keep a low profile and opt for security in their choice of residence. I can reduce my rental considerably by moving a few blocks away from town, but I enjoy a beer and walking home safely at night!
A low profile also prevents you from making local enemies. It's a very small town. You are watched and remembered. Stay away from altercations with, or between locals.
My buddy tried to intervene in a fight at Bar Central Tuseday night which saw a local hooker beat and kicked senselessly by the bouncer, and thrown in the gutter.
He's a big guy, and can take care of himself, but the culture here is different from back home, and there's no real right and wrong, only survival.
As the other posters warn, pay attention to your safety out there!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2312911]It's literally a jungle out there in that part of town.
My buddy tried to intervene in a fight at Bar Central Tuseday night which saw a local hooker beat and kicked senselessly by the bouncer, and thrown in the gutter.
He's a big guy, and can take care of himself, but the culture here is different from back home, and there's no real right and wrong, only survival.
As the other posters warn, pay attention to your safety out there![/QUOTE]Yes the black culture and quest for the survival of the fittest creates a great deal of aggressiveness in the DR, Jamaica and every African country, then to boot you ad drinking and chicas to the mix and wham a powder keg ready to explode.
I have noticed in Colombia that other than an occasional bar brawl, which is not common, by and far the culture is not aggressive which is really appreciated when your a gringo and like to visit the very far off the beaten path types of local bars and street chicas.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2313121]Yes the black culture and quest for the survival of the fittest creates a great deal of aggressiveness in the DR, Jamaica and every African country, then to boot you ad drinking and chicas to the mix and wham a powder keg ready to explode.
I have noticed in Colombia that other than an occasional bar brawl, which is not common, by and far the culture is not aggressive which is really appreciated when your a gringo and like to visit the very far off the beaten path types of local bars and street chicas.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It has to do with the machismo attitude / culture in the DR and other latin countries not black culture. Women are killed like chicken there. You can read the newspaper and you will see how women are treated across the island. Better yet, talk with a women that will give you the honest truth. In Africa, which I also travelled to several times. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is very high and goes unpunished. Some women don't even report it. The judicial system / police are not doing there job in protecting these women. Most of the police / judges are men. The problem is male centered / domineering attitude. Throw in the ignorance myths bestowed upon poor uneducated people by missionaries like the virgin cleansing. Then you would understand why AIDS and sexual abuse are high.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2312144]Ummmmm, what's an "All White VIP Party"?[/QUOTE]It's just a club event where you wear all white.
Guys have been doing white parties for a few years. Guys hook up with chicas and their buddies, It looks corney to me but I tend to
of be a lone wolf. At the end of the day the girls love it and that is really what counts. In truth any thing you can do to make the trip more fun is a positive.
[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;2313598]It's just a club event where you wear all white.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;2313598]It's just a club event where you wear all white.[/QUOTE]Sounds like New Year's Eve in Brasil where everyone (and I mean thousands of people) wears white and goes to the beach with white flowers and white candles to pay homage to the Goddess of the Sea. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my entire life!
[QUOTE=DCups;2314626]Sounds like New Year's Eve in Brasil where everyone (and I mean thousands of people) wears white and goes to the beach with white flowers and white candles to pay homage to the Goddess of the Sea. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my entire life![/QUOTE]I like New Years Eve in Bazil also more than Carnival. She is an Orisha goddess (Yemanja) brought to Brasil by West Africans. A Yoruba religion which is also practice in Cuba. If you ever go to Cuba I recommend anyone to experience the Spiritual tour and learn about the history in Cuba.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2314780]I like New Years Eve in Bazil also more than Carnival. She is an Orisha goddess (Yemanja) brought to Brasil by West Africans. A Yoruba religion which is also practice in Cuba. If you ever go to Cuba I recommend anyone to experience the Spiritual tour and learn about the history in Cuba.[/QUOTE]I second this recommendation. This religion is more present in Cuba that one would think. There are temples, often wall-painted joyfully, with blue sea waves, and it's very interesting to learn about this religion.
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2314797]I second this recommendation. This religion is more present in Cuba that one would think. There are temples, often wall-painted joyfully, with blue sea waves, and it's very interesting to learn about this religion.[/QUOTE]It is present all over where African slaves came in. Brazil. Condomble. Cuba, Puerto Rico Santeria. Haiti. Vodou. Since I was a French major I did a project on Haitian Voudou when I was in school. A couple of days ago I was in Olinda, Pernambuco, Brazil and took a tour of this old house. The lady that gave us the tour was a witch and showed us the supposed Christian statues that were made by the slaves that masked their true African gods and saints.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2314815]It is present all over where African slaves came in. Brazil. Condomble. Cuba, Puerto Rico Santeria. Haiti. Vodou. Since I was a French major I did a project on Haitian Voudou when I was in school. A couple of days ago I was in Olinda, Pernambuco, Brazil and took a tour of this old house. The lady that gave us the tour was a witch and showed us the supposed Christian statues that were made by the slaves that masked their true African gods and saints.[/QUOTE]I did a little afro Cuban salsa years ago. The instructor talked about Santeria and the Orishas some, the I did some reading. Fascinating history!
A big disadvantage of meeting chicks online is that you can not fully check them out. Sure you can cam, but that does not tell a full story. I was dating a chick in Colombia whose friend had met an Australian guy online. They dated online for 1 year and even talked about marriage before he finally went to see her. When he finally met his fiancee he saw something that he could not have previously known. There was something wrong with her legs so she had a weird walk. After seeing her that first day, he blew her off the rest of his vacation.
In January I met a pharmacist online who lives in Santiago. I went there and we met up at Kukaramacara. She looked pretty good, just like her photos and the cam. Then I saw something that I just can not deal with. She had a lobster claw hand! How am I going to get through this night?
We went upstairs and sat at my usual table in front of the street. Outside facing me was a big ass billboard with a lobster grinning at my ass! I should have thrown in the towel right then. After dinner we went back to my hotel but I did not let her come in. I made an excuse about needing to get some rest and she took a taxi home. I win a whole hell of a lot of them, but every now and then I chalk up a loss.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2313121]Yes the black culture and quest for the survival of the fittest creates a great deal of aggressiveness in the DR, Jamaica and every African country, then to boot you ad drinking and chicas to the mix and wham a powder keg ready to explode.
I have noticed in Colombia that other than an occasional bar brawl, which is not common, by and far the culture is not aggressive which is really appreciated when your a gringo and like to visit the very far off the beaten path types of local bars and street chicas.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Having lived in northern british Colombia and alberta towns where you went to the bars for entertainment to watch the Saturday night punchups, I was amazed while living in medellin for best part of 7 years of never seen a punch thrown in a bar, that includes the bars and strip clubs north and west of conejitas opposite plaza botero, accidently bump into a colombian and he says sorry, an albertan liable to punch you out.
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What's up fellas. After a year of stalking the board I finally have my ticket to paradise. Ill be leaving may 30 and returning June 4th. I know a little bit from stalking the board but I still have some questions. I'm trying to buy a subscription but I'm running into issues so hopefully soon you can pm me.
My questions are I'm flying into Santo Domingo cause the tickets was half the cost. Whats the best way to get to Sosua that's safe. Our flight lands in Santo Domingo at night so should I just wait till the morning or is it a safe way to go at night. Also is new gardens still the best spot to stay. I was thinking of a villa but I don't think its necessary. And what else is there to do in Sosua besides the chicas LOL. And lastly I'm bringing about 1500 bucks. Is that enough for a great time for 5 days.
Thanks for all your advice fellas. I look forward to posting my reviews soon.
Take the Metro Bus. It cost 9 dollars and it will take you to Sosua from Santo Domingo in appx 4 hours.
The bus is clean, air conditioned and has a bathroom. Its very efficient.
Tell a taxi driver to take you to the Metro Bus Station in Santo Domingo which is about 15 minutes from the Airport -- all the drivers know where Metro Bus station is.
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2318225]What's up fellas. After a year of stalking the board I finally have my ticket to paradise. Ill be leaving may 30 and returning June 4th. I know a little bit from stalking the board but I still have some questions. I'm trying to buy a subscription but I'm running into issues so hopefully soon you can pm me.
My questions are I'm flying into Santo Domingo cause the tickets was half the cost. Whats the best way to get to Sosua that's safe. Our flight lands in Santo Domingo at night so should I just wait till the morning or is it a safe way to go at night. Also is new gardens still the best spot to stay. I was thinking of a villa but I don't think its necessary. And what else is there to do in Sosua besides the chicas LOL. And lastly I'm bringing about 1500 bucks. Is that enough for a great time for 5 days.
Thanks for all your advice fellas. I look forward to posting my reviews soon.[/QUOTE]I'm a newbie myself so here's my advice.
1500 is plenty. When I am there I spend an average of 100 dollars a day for food, fun, and fucking.
The easiest, but also most expensive way to get from sdq to Sosua is a private taxi right from the airport. I would not suggest you try and navigate the whole bus system on your first trip with so few days to enjoy.
I always stay at Europa and have no real complaints about it.
Have a fun trip and remember to chica proof your room!
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2318225]What's up fellas. After a year of stalking the board I finally have my ticket to paradise. Ill be leaving may 30 and returning June 4th. I know a little bit from stalking the board but I still have some questions. I'm trying to buy a subscription but I'm running into issues so hopefully soon you can pm me.
My questions are I'm flying into Santo Domingo cause the tickets was half the cost. Whats the best way to get to Sosua that's safe. Our flight lands in Santo Domingo at night so should I just wait till the morning or is it a safe way to go at night. Also is new gardens still the best spot to stay. I was thinking of a villa but I don't think its necessary. And what else is there to do in Sosua besides the chicas LOL. And lastly I'm bringing about 1500 bucks. Is that enough for a great time for 5 days.
Thanks for all your advice fellas. I look forward to posting my reviews soon.[/QUOTE]I avoid flying or driving by night wherever possible. It's a drag.
Relax, stay over in Santiago, and maybe even let your adventures begin there!
A viila is ok for a group, but most often requires transportation to and from, which adds complexity.
In Sosua, the most recommended chica friendly hotels are New Garden, Europa, or Alicia. Check out Don Antonio too, all close to the action. Things are slow here now so negotiating is advised, they may thrown in breakfast! You can walk to all 4 in 10 minutes or so and see who's hungry for your business.
As to other activities, besides fucking, there is the usual stuff to do in a small beach town, decent and varied food, and side trips to PP and Cabarete.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2318225]What's up fellas. After a year of stalking the board I finally have my ticket to paradise. Ill be leaving may 30 and returning June 4th. I know a little bit from stalking the board but I still have some questions. I'm trying to buy a subscription but I'm running into issues so hopefully soon you can pm me.
My questions are I'm flying into Santo Domingo cause the tickets was half the cost. Whats the best way to get to Sosua that's safe. Our flight lands in Santo Domingo at night so should I just wait till the morning or is it a safe way to go at night. Also is new gardens still the best spot to stay. I was thinking of a villa but I don't think its necessary. And what else is there to do in Sosua besides the chicas LOL. And lastly I'm bringing about 1500 bucks. Is that enough for a great time for 5 days.
Thanks for all your advice fellas. I look forward to posting my reviews soon.[/QUOTE]A lot to cover. What time at night do you arrive?
Caribe Tours bus line would be a good choice to Sosua, but their last last bus to Sosua leaves at 7 pm. First bus out is at 6 am. (Schedules online).
Not sure how much time you have to kill, whether its worth reserving a room in SD, etc.
$1500 US is plenty for 5 days, but I would not wander at night dragging luggage and a fortune in cash.
May be insulting your intelligence, but be aware of your surroundings, avoid isolated areas at night, and find a secure stash for your cash. A chica I know got angry when I pulled my wallet out to pay after exiting the cab. She insisted I pay INSIDE the cab to avoid flashing my wallet to unwanted eyes on any street corner. Stuff happens.
Might be worth finding a room close to the airport (ask your cabbie) get a room to crash safely for a few hours, and have a cab pick you up to catch the morning bus.
I have about 6 girls I hook up with when in SD. I met my 1st SD hookups on Cupid. My flight was delayed so I called the hotel and arranged my guest to check in before me. When I arrived she opened the door with nothing on but a towel. We had never met before but became quick friends. I had a great night. Find a place in the zona colona to spend the night. There are always working girls on the stroll. Spend the night and catch the bus in the morning. I usually find some action that makes my night in SD very worth much worth it.
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2318225]What's up fellas. After a year of stalking the board I finally have my ticket to paradise. Ill be leaving may 30 and returning June 4th. I know a little bit from stalking the board but I still have some questions. I'm trying to buy a subscription but I'm running into issues so hopefully soon you can pm me.
My questions are I'm flying into Santo Domingo cause the tickets was half the cost. Whats the best way to get to Sosua that's safe. Our flight lands in Santo Domingo at night so should I just wait till the morning or is it a safe way to go at night. Also is new gardens still the best spot to stay. I was thinking of a villa but I don't think its necessary. And what else is there to do in Sosua besides the chicas LOL. And lastly I'm bringing about 1500 bucks. Is that enough for a great time for 5 days.
Thanks for all your advice fellas. I look forward to posting my reviews soon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2318479]
May be insulting your intelligence, but be aware of your surroundings, avoid isolated areas at night, and find a secure stash for your cash. A chica I know got angry when I pulled my wallet out to pay after exiting the cab. She insisted I pay INSIDE the cab to avoid flashing my wallet to unwanted eyes on any street corner. Stuff happens[/QUOTE]I get a lot of flack on this forum for this, but when I'm with my regular, I travel light. She carries the day's money and pays all the transportation, grocery store bills, bar bills, and saves me a fortune in the process. She also carries my phone, ATM card and house key in that little bag she always carries with her, and protects with her life.
She's a Dominicana, always gets Dominicana prices, and tips like one. LOL.
In fact the only major arguments we have had is when she gets our bill and insists on checking it in detail, and pointing out the odd discrepancy that I would usually let go, or if she thinks I'm overtipping, after a couple beers.
In 10 years and 2 regulars, never been ripped off, or lost a phone!
Not recommended for casual puta mongers, of course, but works great for me!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2319974]I get a lot of flack on this forum for this, but when I'm with my regular, I travel light. She carries the day's money and pays all the transportation, grocery store bills, bar bills, and saves me a fortune in the process. She also carries my phone, ATM card and house key in that little bag she always carries with her, and protects with her life.
She's a Dominicana, always gets Dominicana prices, and tips like one. LOL.
In fact the only major arguments we have had is when she gets our bill and insists on checking it in detail, and pointing out the odd discrepancy that I would usually let go, or if she thinks I'm overtipping, after a couple beers.
In 10 years and 2 regulars, never been ripped off, or lost a phone!
Not recommended for casual puta mongers, of course, but works great for me![/QUOTE]Does she carry your balls and your pride in that purse too? LOL.
It was a home invasion. Apartment living is a good way to avoid it. It's very hard to maintain security in a detached single owner residence.
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RIP. This Canadian expat lived in Villa La Mulata.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2319988]Does she carry your balls and your pride in that purse too? LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL.
The nice thing about being in control, is not having to carry all your shit with you.
Successful people let their paid help do that.
They don't carry their worldly goods in a bag, with a few pesos tucked down their sock, LOL.
That's for bag ladies!
I got a faithful retainer. Among her many amazing talents is she's my gofer!
YMMV
[QUOTE=Oakie;2319974]I get a lot of flack on this forum for this, but when I'm with my regular, I travel light. She carries the day's money and pays all the transportation, grocery store bills, bar bills, and saves me a fortune in the process. She also carries my phone, ATM card and house key in that little bag she always carries with her, and protects with her life.
She's a Dominicana, always gets Dominicana prices, and tips like one. LOL.
In fact the only major arguments we have had is when she gets our bill and insists on checking it in detail, and pointing out the odd discrepancy that I would usually let go, or if she thinks I'm overtipping, after a couple beers.
In 10 years and 2 regulars, never been ripped off, or lost a phone!
Not recommended for casual puta mongers, of course, but works great for me![/QUOTE]Very good post. After years of sport mongering I too have opted for the "regular" if you will. No hassles and always can count on a great session. Don't get me wrong I will still hit a girl I'm attracted to if the situation is right. Just kind of tired of the chase. Got a decent collection and one little hottie that is down for me be it true or not in her case. She makes me feel good whether it's genuine or not, I am living the dream. Does the same thing and takes care of the dinero and makes sure I get the best deal wherever we go, cooks, cleans, and gives me the GFE. That means a lot to me personally. So go on my Brother and enjoy!
Nightwhaler,
The sessions with my regulars are wonderful. I do not bring my special girls to Sosua. WE go to SD or Santiago and enjoy the cities. The sex is always special with girls you know and Dominicn women can give awesome GFE when motivated. Now sport fucking in Sosua is so much fun. You never know what you are going to get. The variety is mind blowing. I plan to be on the ground in 8 days. This is my 9th year and I still get crazy excited every trip. To have this much fun in my country would need to be as rich as Trump. Part of my warm up is buying trinkets that make the girls happy. I also buy oils and sex toys that spice up my sessions. Happy girls fuck better always.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2320574]Very good post. After years of sport mongering I too have opted for the "regular" if you will. No hassles and always can count on a great session. Don't get me wrong I will still hit a girl I'm attracted to if the situation is right. Just kind of tired of the chase. Got a decent collection and one little hottie that is down for me be it true or not in her case. She makes me feel good whether it's genuine or not, I am living the dream. Does the same thing and takes care of the dinero and makes sure I get the best deal wherever we go, cooks, cleans, and gives me the GFE. That means a lot to me personally. So go on my Brother and enjoy!
Nightwhaler,[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2320574]Very good post. After years of sport mongering I too have opted for the "regular" if you will. No hassles and always can count on a great session. Don't get me wrong I will still hit a girl I'm attracted to if the situation is right. Just kind of tired of the chase. Got a decent collection and one little hottie that is down for me be it true or not in her case. She makes me feel good whether it's genuine or not, I am living the dream. Does the same thing and takes care of the dinero and makes sure I get the best deal wherever we go, cooks, cleans, and gives me the GFE. That means a lot to me personally. So go on my Brother and enjoy!
Nightwhaler,[/QUOTE]You can have it all in DR.
(long as you realize you are not in Kansas anymore, and don't sweat the small stuff! LOL).
Age helps put it all in perspective, as you and me and a few others have learned through trial and error.
It's the younger guys, who have fragile egos and false pride when fucking third world poor putas for money, who have it hardest, from my experience.
They can't handle the thought that that beautiful sex machine is only interested in their dinero, after all. LOL.
They are the ones I talk to down here, who get most pissed off, and disappointed, when the chica's start putting the squeeze on them for more money and support!
"Why do these chica's want to spoil a good deal?" is the common theme!
"Where's the love, y'all? Lol
The answer is, they are in the pay for play business, and yesterday's money is gone!
I got it all here, wifed up three days a week, access to a couple of her genuinly beautiful GFs (she's bi) and 4 days free to meet other potentials. I can then choose to party like an animal, or kick back, detox, work out, or just chill. My choice!
We have a good little social circle going here. Sure, it needs a little money in the pot to keep it going! But not nearly as much as sport fucking, and wining and dining. After all these years the meter stops running. We all get together once a week for a day on the beach, or a drink after work, and they are genuinely happy to be with each other!
I'm happy to pick up most tabs, because I tell them. I'm an "idiota tourista gringo", which always has them in tears and protesting that I'm a true Dominicano. LOL.
But only as long as my limited budget allows.
I can go a week or two down there, waiting for my cheque, fuck beautiful chicas, run a tab at my 4 fave venues, and pay next day or next week, or even at one place I've known for 10 years, next year in the old days, if I had to be at the airport early
Can't do that at home!
So enjoying a truly magical lifestyle, on a small budget, keeps my balls, ego and pride intact!
Enough so that a lot of mongers who see us all out together want to join us.
And, a couple of our part timers are all free to peel off and make a little money, and come back and tell us all about it!
You should hear THEIR stories, LOL.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2320574]Very good post. After years of sport mongering I too have opted for the "regular" if you will. No hassles and always can count on a great session. Don't get me wrong I will still hit a girl I'm attracted to if the situation is right. Just kind of tired of the chase. Got a decent collection and one little hottie that is down for me be it true or not in her case. She makes me feel good whether it's genuine or not, I am living the dream. Does the same thing and takes care of the dinero and makes sure I get the best deal wherever we go, cooks, cleans, and gives me the GFE. That means a lot to me personally. So go on my Brother and enjoy!
Nightwhaler,[/QUOTE]I have no issue with one deciding to have 'regulars", I have four. But hell will freeze over before I can not or will not do my own negotiating and can't handle my own money to the point that I am going to leave it to a Dominican hoe, jeez you guys grow a set!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2320925]I have no issue with one deciding to have 'regulars", I have four. But hell will freeze over before I can not or will not do my own negotiating and can't handle my own money to the point that I am going to leave it to a Dominican hoe, jeez you guys grow a set![/QUOTE]You sound a little uptight, Mani.
Speaking for myself, I believe most guys can figure the difference between being happily "wifed up" for 3 years with a Dominicana, and fucking 4 or more "Dominican hoes" on a regular basis.
The latter doesn't require balls, only dinero, so stop waving your dick around!
LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2321127]You sound a little uptight, Mani.
Speaking for myself, I believe most guys can figure the difference between being happily "wifed up" for 3 years with a Dominicana, and fucking 4 or more "Dominican hoes" on a regular basis.
The latter doesn't require balls, only dinero, so stop waving your dick around!
LOL.[/QUOTE]Not uptight at all Oakie, life is good. I have no problem with "wifing" up I lived with a Dominican chica in POP for almost a year. The issue I have is with one's lack of ability to negotiate prices on their own and instead putting a Dominicana in control of their money, hoe or not. But as long as you're happy it's all good I guess.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2320925]I have no issue with one deciding to have 'regulars", I have four. But hell will freeze over before I can not or will not do my own negotiating and can't handle my own money to the point that I am going to leave it to a Dominican hoe, jeez you guys grow a set![/QUOTE]I am sufficiently cautious to carry my own wallet, money etc. That said, I have a chica that I WOULD / DO trust with large amounts of money, and have in the past.
In relation to that, she negotiates with local vendors of goods and services (non-sex related) to get me the non-gringo prices, which I appreciate.
In fact, I consider that a valuable service.
Presumably, that is the kind of negotiating mentioned previously. It takes a lot of nerve to have your "regular" negotiate with a hooker for you.
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2318407]I'm a newbie myself so here's my advice.
1500 is plenty. When I am there I spend an average of 100 dollars a day for food, fun, and fucking.
The easiest, but also most expensive way to get from sdq to Sosua is a private taxi right from the airport. I would not suggest you try and navigate the whole bus system on your first trip with so few days to enjoy.
I always stay at Europa and have no real complaints about it.
Have a fun trip and remember to chica proof your room![/QUOTE]Chica proof room?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2321390]Not uptight at all Oakie, life is good. I have no problem with "wifing" up I lived with a Dominican chica in POP for almost a year. The issue I have is with one's lack of ability to negotiate prices on their own and instead putting a Dominicana in control of their money, hoe or not. But as long as you're happy it's all good I guess.[/QUOTE]That's better, LOL.
It's about choice, not "lack of ability".
It's only a day's spending money for incidentals, not my life savings, LOL
And getting a local driver with a nice car, always on call, who has no English, to get us to PP for 700 pesos when the regular taxi fare is over $50, comes in handy!
My pussy is almost free!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2321390]Not uptight at all Oakie, life is good. I have no problem with "wifing" up I lived with a Dominican chica in POP for almost a year. The issue I have is with one's lack of ability to negotiate prices on their own and instead putting a Dominicana in control of their money, hoe or not. But as long as you're happy it's all good I guess.[/QUOTE]Mani, some males can't see the value in what you were addressed. Nobody is questioning ones relationship or level of trust of a particular Dominicana. The issue is, a man giving a local Dominicana the responsibility of holding his money, cell phone, transpo money, grocery money, bar bills, ATM card, keys, tipping and negotiations for everything etc, is an example of simpish behavior, IMO. Women hold each others purses. Men don't do that.
This is not the type of behavior conscientious and responsible men typically endorse or encourage. In fact just the opposite. A man who is accustomed to handling his own personal effects and responsibilities, is less likely to appear like he's lost or a prime target the moment they are alone and can't rely on some woman. Locals always are watching and paying attention to how one handles themselves. And when they notice that you don't speak for yourself, don't negotiate for yourself, don't hold your money etc, I imagine them looking at you as an extension of the female that represents you. Just another woman. The point is. Even though entrusting some female may seem cool and convenient. Some men see a bigger picture, where it's important to represent themselves, as men. That is more important than the benefit derived from having a woman as a personal valet
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2321394]I am sufficiently cautious to carry my own wallet, money etc. That said, I have a chica that I WOULD / DO trust with large amounts of money, and have in the past.
In relation to that, she negotiates with local vendors of goods and services (non-sex related) to get me the non-gringo prices, which I appreciate.
In fact, I consider that a valuable service.
Presumably, that is the kind of negotiating mentioned previously. It takes a lot of nerve to have your "regular" negotiate with a hooker for you.[/QUOTE]
Of course, it's only small stuff I'm talking about.
I just like the freedom of everything at my disposal, and not having to carry anything with me. No man bag, no passport, no phone, no bank card, no keys, no dinero, no change.
I always liked the all inclusive resorts for that, and I've worked it so I have a little of that freedom in Sosua!
I have no problem managing the other 4 days after I send her home, Lol
I have to laugh though. I've lived and worked in 4 counties on 2 continents plus the Caribbean.
My career was totally self employed as a Land Acquisition Consultant to the best in the business. Almost all negotiating, almost all the time!
To be lectured on negotiating, by a couple of uptight third world mongers, is both funny, and sad!
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2321440]And when they notice that you don't speak for yourself, don't negotiate for yourself, don't hold your money etc, I imagine them looking at you as an extension of the female that represents you. Just another woman.[/QUOTE]This goes for any country. I hate when I am at a restaurant with a chick and the waitress confers with her instead of me. I tell them you talk to me. When that bich start paying the bill is when you talk to her.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2321453]This goes for any country. I hate when I am at a restaurant with a chick and the waitress confers with her instead of me. I tell them you talk to me. When that bich start paying the bill is when you talk to her.[/QUOTE]Whoa, all that gratuitous name calling. Apparently many of us have similar kind of respect for women as the present occupant of the W. H!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2321445]To be lectured on negotiating, by a couple of uptight third world mongers, is both funny, and sad![/QUOTE]IMO, it has little to do with being uptight. These are some control freak misogynists. In any case, you are man enough to do what you wish to do, caring two hoots about the others.
So should I wait until I arrive to get a room? I was gone book one online but is it smarter to wait till you get there. Also should I not being cash? How safe is it to use ATM's there. I was going to bring cash then exchange it once I got there but should I just wait and use an ATM there? Also how is the phone service over there will I be able to use my cell phone with no issues.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2318444]I avoid flying or driving by night wherever possible. It's a drag.
Relax, stay over in San7tiago, and maybe even let your adventures begin there!
A viila is ok for a group, but most often requires transportation to and from, which adds complexity.
In Sosua, the most recommended chica friendly hotels are New Garden, Europa, or Alicia. Check out Don Antonio too, all close to the action. Things are slow here now so negotiating is advised, they may thrown in breakfast! You can walk to all 4 in 10 minutes or so and see who's hungry for your business.
As to other activities, besides fucking, there is the usual stuff to do in a small beach town, decent and varied food, and side trips to PP and Cabarete.
Have fun![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2321528]IMO, it has little to do with being uptight. These are some control freak misogynists. In any case, you are man enough to do what you wish to do, caring two hoots about the others.[/QUOTE]It's the usual suspects who never post reports! Unless it's horror stories about some "guy they know" Lol.
Mongers buying sex from poor third world hookers is not usually associated with manhood, balls, and least of all, pride. where I come from. Any old lame dog, male or female with a little money in his pocket can do it!
I tell them back home that I am wifed up down here. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Lol.
I don't moralize about it, I just enjoy it!
And the locals are smart enough to figure out who's in control when they see an old white guy with a young chica, or a fat old white broad with a young, buff local chico, even if she has him pay her tabs for her.
Some here, haven't quite figured that out?
And just for the record I have never, ever carried a woman's purse for her! Lol
Obsessing about balls, pride and manhood is for the insecure with fragile egos, and is very prevalent among some mongers.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2321525]Whoa, all that gratuitous name calling. Apparently many of us have similar kind of respect for women as the present occupant of the W. H![/QUOTE]Some guys don't realize that when they are fucking a hoe, they are just a john, mark or a trick!
Not some Hollywood adonis! LOL.
[QUOTE=Doc8008;2321416]Chica proof room?[/QUOTE]Before you bring a girl to your hotel room, you have to chica proof it, I. E. Lock EVERYTHING inside your suitcase or room safe, including aftershave. The girls always have somebody in their family who need it.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2321911]Some guys don't realize that when they are fucking a hoe, they are just a john, mark or a trick!
Not some Hollywood adonis! LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe in having some emotional connection with girls even if they are ST. Yes, for them it is just another guy paying. But over the years I have met some who stayed with me number of days and we went everywhere and enjoyed. Many of them are very happy to be living well albeit for a few days. They do reciprocate in other ways.
I do not believe in treating any girl badly irrespective of what she does for a living. All the same I will lock up all valuables and carry only local currency enough for the days activities.
I have driven alone all hours of the night in DR and never had a problem. Once I had a flat tire and couple of locals changed the tire and refused to accept money. Nowadays all major roads have regular police vans cruising with their lights on. They are there to help any motorist and I have not seen any roadblock checking. I really like mountain road going from Sosua to Santiago. Once there was a tree limb blocking. Some guys moved it so that I can pass. Driving that road I have met few girls who are waiting for the bus. I have given them rides and successful in bedding few.
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2321838]So should I wait until I arrive to get a room? I was gone book one online but is it smarter to wait till you get there. Also should I not being cash? How safe is it to use ATM's there. I was going to bring cash then exchange it once I got there but should I just wait and use an ATM there? Also how is the phone service over there will I be able to use my cell phone with no issues.[/QUOTE]It's slow season here, so If you have been here before, and are arriving during the day, I would wait until you get here, have a cool drink, park your bag there, and check out the 4 main recommended chica friendly hotels in town, mentioned below.
If you have never been here before, or arriving at night, I would book a room for the first night, get a good night's sleep and take a short walk around town after breakfast to get your bearings, and see where you'd like to be for the rest of your trip.
As to ATMs, I love them. I don't like carrying cash around with me, so I would bring a few dollar bills, and get the rest from ATMs (there's one at the airport) I'm Canadian so, ATM's give me the best rate for pesos, even with the service charge. It also provides an online record of my daily spending.
Other guys don't use ATMs and prefer to change their USA Dollars in town and can get a better rate!
You can use your smart phone here but the roaming charges can be a nightmare. Unless you have an unlocked phone that can take a local SIM card, like i do, guys borrow or buy a cheap local phone.
Others here may give you some pointers too!
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Sammon;2322036]I believe in having some emotional connection with girls even if they are ST. Yes, for them it is just another guy paying. But over the years I have met some who stayed with me number of days and we went everywhere and enjoyed. Many of them are very happy to be living well albeit for a few days. They do reciprocate in other ways.
I do not believe in treating any girl badly irrespective of what she does for a living. All the same I will lock up all valuables and carry only local currency enough for the days activities.
I have driven alone all hours of the night in DR and never had a problem. Once I had a flat tire and couple of locals changed the tire and refused to accept money. Nowadays all major roads have regular police vans cruising with their lights on. They are there to help any motorist and I have not seen any roadblock checking. I really like mountain road going from Sosua to Santiago. Once there was a tree limb blocking. Some guys moved it so that I can pass. Driving that road I have met few girls who are waiting for the bus. I have given them rides and successful in bedding few.[/QUOTE]You are right, of course! I was just being sarcastic. See my smily!
Just reminding some guys who denigrate the very girls they are sharing a meal, a bed, and bodily fluids with, Lol.
I get flamed all the time for giving the girls too much trust and respect!
I trust and respect my own particular circle of chicas, and I get it back in spades! But I have known them for quite a while now. They've earned it.
We all get off in different ways.
Like you, I have many stories of the good will of Dominicans over the last 10 years, which is why I prefer them over the average Canadian in my home town, and choose to live among them. Nobody is perfect, but as my fellow Canadian buddy always says, "never have I seen people with so little, give so much"!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2322217]As to ATMs, I love them. I don't like carrying cash around with me, so I would bring a few dollar bills, and get the rest from ATMs[/QUOTE]
I live here now but in the three years I was only "tripping" I relied on ATMs. If you do the same I would recommend:
1) Advise your bank well before you leave. First World banks are rightly suspicious of the DR, one of the most corrupt and incompetent nations on earth, and might block your card if they unexpectedly see sizable sums being frequently withdrawn here. You might want to nominate a maximum amount to be withdrawn to protect your account.
2) Bring at least two cards in case one ceases to function for any reason.
3) Draw money during banking hours inside the bank at the teller counter. You will need your passport. This is safer than doing so on the street, you will not be in danger of having your card cloned, and you can ask for a selection of small bills and change (which can be elusive otherwise, leading to over-paying). You might want to write down a "shopping list" to make things clearer to the teller. For example to draw RD $20,000 (about US $400) I ask for:
10 x RD $1000.
10 x RD $500.
10 x RD $200.
10 x RD $100.
20 x RD $50.
RD $1000 en moneda (coins).
4) If you must draw money outside banking hours, use an ATM outside a bank. These will normally have a security man on guard. Also, if the machine eats your card or fails to issue cash, the matter will be more easily resolved if you go straight to the bank when it opens next day. For an ATM in a store or filling station, it could take days to resolve, with all parties passing the buck.
5) When using an ATM draw an "odd" amount, such as RD $4900 (rather than RD $5000). This will give you some smaller bills.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2322336]1) Advise your bank well before you leave.[/QUOTE]2019. With my bank, Charles Schwab, I can do this in 2 seconds on the app. Most of the time I do it on the plane when I am leaving.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2322336]I live here now but in the three years I was only "tripping" I relied on ATMs. If you do the same I would recommend:
1) Advise your bank well before you leave. First World banks are rightly suspicious of the DR, one of the most corrupt and incompetent nations on earth, and might block your card if they unexpectedly see sizable sums being frequently withdrawn here. You might want to nominate a maximum amount to be withdrawn to protect your account.
2) Bring at least two cards in case one ceases to function for any reason.
3) Draw money during banking hours inside the bank at the teller counter. You will need your passport. This is safer than doing so on the street, you will not be in danger of having your card cloned, and you can ask for a selection of small bills and change (which can be elusive otherwise, leading to over-paying). You might want to write down a "shopping list" to make things clearer to the teller. For example to draw RD $20,000 (about US $400) I ask for:
10 x RD $1000.
10 x RD $500.
10 x RD $200.
10 x RD $100.
20 x RD $50.
RD $1000 en moneda (coins).
4) If you must draw money outside banking hours, use an ATM outside a bank. These will normally have a security man on guard. Also, if the machine eats your card or fails to issue cash, the matter will be more easily resolved if you go straight to the bank when it opens next day. For an ATM in a store or filling station, it could take days to resolve, with all parties passing the buck.
5) When using an ATM draw an "odd" amount, such as RD $4900 (rather than RD $5000). This will give you some smaller bills.[/QUOTE]Good advice as usual, Charles.
Especially No. 2. Having your only card eaten by a machine can be a real pain here.
As is No. 5. The ATM machines can be quirky, and sometimes will not dispense your cash, even though you have gone through the routine and got a receipt. This happened to me at the airport last time. Taking out a slightly different amount each time, helps you keep track of any disputed transactions on your account. A long series of same amount transactions can be hard to reconcile, because Friday, Saturday or Sunday withdrawals may all show up as Monday's. Especially if you utilize more than one bank.
Progresso and Populair ATMs are the most reliable, IMHO
[QUOTE=Doc8008;2321416]Chica proof room?[/QUOTE]I can't offer too much advice there given my limited experience in the DR. However, that limited experience did teach me one thing: don't leave anything in sight that you don't want the girl to leave with. The first girl I brought up to my room down in BC, surveyed the room with her eyes, locked onto a set up of earbuds that were still in the plastic package on the dresser. She picked them up, ran her hands along them and gave this sad look, and I knew what she wanted. She hadn't taken her clothes off and already she was wanting to be gifted. Fortunately for her, she did a very good job for 1000 DOP. I let her leave with the earbuds, which only cost me $8 and made her happy.) I think anytime you can have an hour of good sex and make the girl happy for $30 USD total, you've gotten a deal and a half).
Other girls I brought up to that room, also did a quick visual of the premises. When one decided she wasn't leaving without what she thought she should be getting (she said she was not a prostitute and she just wanted a boyfriend), she started looking around the room frantically and demanded "Do you have anything here you can give me?" No, now take the money I gave you ($1000 DOP) and get out.
Oh, and I encountered two girls on that trip who told me they were not prostitutes, they were just looking for a boyfriend. I have to think this happens more often than you might expect, given I encountered it twice on the same weekend (once in SD and once in BC). Whether or not you want to play their half ass game is up to you. But back to your question, I think you should secure your room with any woman, in any country. However, Dominicanas seem to be especially keen on scoping out your belongings.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2322217]It's slow season here, so If you have been here before, and are arriving during the day, I would wait until you get here, have a cool drink, park your bag there, and check out the 4 main recommended chica friendly hotels in town, mentioned below.
If you have never been here before, or arriving at night, I would book a room for the first night, get a good night's sleep and take a short walk around town after breakfast to get your bearings, and see where you'd like to be for the rest of your trip.
As to ATMs, I love them. I don't like carrying cash around with me, so I would bring a few dollar bills, and get the rest from ATMs (there's one at the airport) I'm Canadian so, ATM's give me the best rate for pesos, even with the service charge. It also provides an online record of my daily spending.
Other guys don't use ATMs and prefer to change their USA Dollars in town and can get a better rate!
You can use your smart phone here but the roaming charges can be a nightmare. Unless you have an unlocked phone that can take a local SIM card, like i do, guys borrow or buy a cheap local phone.
Others here may give you some pointers too!
Have fun![/QUOTE]I never understood why the summer season would be the slow season. Isn't the summer time when most people go on vacation?
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2322968]I never understood why the summer season would be the slow season. Isn't the summer time when most people go on vacation?[/QUOTE]Snow birds get away from where they live during the winter and go back to the good weather during the summer. Most tourists will go to Punta Cana, which will be busier in the summer than the winter. The north coast is worn out when compared to Punta Cana where everything is fresh and new and appeals more to tourists. There are nowhere near as many families and romantic couples going there than Punta Cana.
This one goes out to Old Kool:
Antonio hit me up and told me to come down to the beach; there are a ton of women.
That muthafucka!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2323312]Snow birds get away from where they live during the winter and go back to the good weather during the summer. Most tourists will go to Punta Cana, which will be busier in the summer than the winter. The north coast is worn out when compared to Punta Cana where everything is fresh and new and appeals more to tourists. There are nowhere near as many families and romantic couples going there than Punta Cana.[/QUOTE]The exception is Brits, because their summer weather is nothing to write home about and many families come here during the school holidays.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2322968]I never understood why the summer season would be the slow season. Isn't the summer time when most people go on vacation?[/QUOTE]Very simple: Weather.
What we call sunny summer somewhere is rainy season somewhere else, especially Caribbean countries (hurricane season).
[URL]http://www.thebesttimetovisit.com/weather/santo-domingo-idvilleeng-78.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2323341]Very simple: Weather.
What we call sunny summer somewhere is rainy season somewhere else, especially Caribbean countries (hurricane season).
[URL]http://www.thebesttimetovisit.com/weather/santo-domingo-idvilleeng-78.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I cannot speak for Santo Domingo but on the North Coast the inconvenience of the hurricane season is greatly exaggerated. I have lived here ten years and can only remember a couple of times my day has been ruined by weather. Generally the weather is great in summer.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2323445]I cannot speak for Santo Domingo but on the North Coast the inconvenience of the hurricane season is greatly exaggerated. I have lived here ten years and can only remember a couple of times my day has been ruined by weather. Generally the weather is great in summer.[/QUOTE]I know. I only answered the question asked before: why summer in DR is considered low season. Answer: weather is 'worse' than in January / Feb. It doesn't mean there are hurricanes or storms everyday, but still, as a tourist point of view, few days of rain are worse than none.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2322217]It's slow season here, so If you have been here before, and are arriving during the day, I would wait until you get here, have a cool drink, park your bag there, and check out the 4 main recommended chica friendly hotels in town, mentioned below.
If you have never been here before, or arriving at night, I would book a room for the first night, get a good night's sleep and take a short walk around town after breakfast to get your bearings, and see where you'd like to be for the rest of your trip.
As to ATMs, I love them. I don't like carrying cash around with me, so I would bring a few dollar bills, and get the rest from ATMs (there's one at the airport) I'm Canadian so, ATM's give me the best rate for pesos, even with the service charge. It also provides an online record of my daily spending.
Other guys don't use ATMs and prefer to change their USA Dollars in town and can get a better rate!
You can use your smart phone here but the roaming charges can be a nightmare. Unless you have an unlocked phone that can take a local SIM card, like i do, guys borrow or buy a cheap local phone.
Others here may give you some pointers too!
Have fun![/QUOTE]Avoid the scotiabank ATM at superpola, I personally know 3 persons had major probs there within the past year, a good rule to follow is only use an ATM at located at a bank, I make the trip to cabarete if I want to get cash on my my scotiabank card. plus the atm at superpola is usually out of service half the time anyway
Spent 4 days in sosua. Weekdays has decent number of girls but Quality sucks. I did 4 new girls and 3 repetitions. The sessions with the repeats was of the charts. O made them work and they seemed to like it. When the week endhcame the numbers and Quality was back.
Had a nice trip. Four days in Sosua is always wonderful. Only negative for me is I know dam near all the regular girls. They pester for food drinks and other things. Gets old real quick combined with the other hustlers can be a issue. I only had one bad experience and it was so my fault. I have gotten so cocckey that I failed to set the price upfront. The chica jacked me for 3 k pesos for short term. She gave all the warning signs and I ignored them. On the good side MY GOAT, greatest of all time blow job queen has retired and has a job in Caberreti. Never the less she came to see me. Normally I just let her do the BJ and send her home. This time I laid her back and road her rough. She moaned and squealed and got my bed wet. An awesome session that she said she would not to forget. Anything in life you practice you get better at. My body got use to fucking so I could hold positions better and longer. I noticed with the girls in my rolodex the sex went to a higher level. I am 60 plus now but was stroking like a porn star.
The food on this trip was not consistent. I did Sinatras for breakfast and dinner several times and was not pleased as in the past. Bourbon street has a great breakfast that was consistently freash and good. Baileys pizza still number one in my book. The German place next to Bourbon street gave me the worst burger I have ever had. Thursday through Sunday Sosua rocks big time. Very hard to beat any where in the world.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2327045]Thurday through Sunday Sosua rocks big time. Very hard to beat any where in the world.[/QUOTE]LOL. And how would you know this it Sosua is the only place you have been?
Taking a trip from Santiago to the Su. Damn after Puerto Plata I'm the only one on the bus. It's just me and the drive for metro. I wonder if that's a sign of Chica activity. Don't matter to me I rarely get a chance to try something new when I'm there. Hopefully I can support a new single mom.
I took advantage of being off for memorial day and vacationing in Sosua. Many guys on the ground did like wise. The was had issues early in the week. The quantity was fine bt the quality was not good. On the weekend things took a very positive turn for the better.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2328756]Taking a trip from Santiago to the Su. Damn after Puerto Plata I'm the only one on the bus. It's just me and the drive for metro. I wonder if that's a sign of Chica activity. Don't matter to me I rarely get a chance to try something new when I'm there. Hopefully I can support a new single mom.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2327045] Thurday through Sunday Sosua rocks big time. Very hard to beat any where in the world.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. Sosua is paradise.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2328823]Agree 100%. Sosua is paradise.[/QUOTE]I hope you are being sarcastic. I've enjoyed several trips to Sosua with friends but it's not a place I would travel to alone or for only the girls. There are much much better places for that. Sosua is okay for a short vacation with friends hanging out on the beach and hitting the bars and clubs at night. It's closeness to the US and it's beach are it's best qualities. I live in Bangkok now and would never consider traveling to Sosua again unless I was visiting the US and some friends wanted to go for a long weekend.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2328915] I live in Bangkok now and would never consider traveling to Sosua again unless I was visiting the US and some friends wanted to go for a long weekend.[/QUOTE]Good for you!
This may come as a surprise to you, but there are lots of folks who happen to prefer voluptuous dark skinned beauties with tits and ass, in a perfectly legal setting on a beautiful tropical island.
Folks who like the tropical vibe, the local music, dancing to bachata, salsa and meringue. The Spanish culture.
And no pimps or mamasans.
All within a couple hours of the East coast.
To each his own!
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2329037]Good for you!
This may come as a surprise to you, but there are lots of folks who happen to prefer voluptuous dark skinned beauties with tits and ass, in a perfectly legal setting on a beautiful tropical island.
Folks who like the tropical vibe, the local music, dancing to bachata, salsa and meringue. The Spanish culture.
And no pimps or mamasans.
All within a couple hours of the East coast.
To each his own!
Enjoy![/QUOTE]Yep, to each his own. I am sure there are better places, but I have a great time each visit. I like the variety of girls. I have posted before, if it were a shorter flight, I would go there even without the girls. I like the bars, restaurants, and beaches right in walking distance. But, OK, I am really going for the girls. I wish people would just post information instead of trying to convince someone they shouldn't like this place, an older girl, skinny girl, etc.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2328915]I hope you are being sarcastic. [/QUOTE]I think Sosua is great, which is why I am in the Sosua thread. The DR is always a fun place to visit.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2328915]I've enjoyed several trips to Sosua with friends but it's not a place I would travel to alone or for only the girls. There are much much better places for that. Sosua is okay for a short vacation with friends hanging out on the beach and hitting the bars and clubs at night. It's closeness to the US and it's beach are it's best qualities. I live in Bangkok now and would never consider traveling to Sosua again unless I was visiting the US and some friends wanted to go for a long weekend.[/QUOTE]Yep That's what he said. I agree Sosua Thursday Thur. Sunday IMO is the overall best pussy bang for your buck. I never been to Bang I wouldn't consider it visiting short term I need at least 2 or 3 weeks. All of that for traveling to mongering those type of women? I pass. Yeah ok if I was like in east southern East Asia.
Right now I am in the bar down stairs from Classico and it's pussy Paradise. My choice for my money and time.
Long time watcher here finally got my chance to come to Paradise. Landed in Santo Domingo and took the metro to Sosua. Harmless trip for half the cost of me landed in Puerta Plata. Check in to new gardens hit the strip with my brother. We see a group of 3 chicas and we're talking to them and we agree to give them 2500 pesos to each of them for a orgy that involved rotating. It was actually pretty fun and the chicas went all out and messed around with each other. Now here comes the rookie mistake. They wanted 2500 pesos from both of us and we thought we were saying 2500 pesos period. Oh well live and learn just gave it to them to avoid drama. We hit the strip again and one of the girls from that group tried to claimed me so I ended that fast LOL. End up seeing a bad one at the bar. She quoted 3000 pesos I quoted 1500 so we met in the middle and off we go. Group chica tries to block me from leaving and is upset. The other chica pushes her out the way and says come on papi LOL. She was really good to and wanted to spend the night but I'm not doing any overnights until I get more comfortable with Sosua. Sent her away and rest up for day number to. I'll tell why'all about day 2 tomorrow. Side note I have t mobile and my data is unlimited here with no roaming cost and is actually going fast still I'm surprised. And what the hell is with the chicas using your damn towels and new gardens not giving you any after a certain time. Something else I learned from first day LOL.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2328915]I hope you are being sarcastic. I've enjoyed several trips to Sosua with friends but it's not a place I would travel to alone or for only the girls. There are much much better places for that. Sosua is okay for a short vacation with friends hanging out on the beach and hitting the bars and clubs at night. It's closeness to the US and it's beach are it's best qualities. I live in Bangkok now and would never consider traveling to Sosua again unless I was visiting the US and some friends wanted to go for a long weekend.[/QUOTE]For being a Sosua fan you need to like Spanish, Haitian girls. Many with big booties and big boobs and more muscular. Cannot compare with Asian women. Subservient attitude in Asia is generally not found as far as mongering is concerned. There are instances I have found some gems who are very appreciative. In Asia it is taken for granted. Bareback is common in Asia.
Being only couple of hours away for a quick long weekend trip suits me fine. Weekends tend to be crowded as well. Along with it there are changes in the attitude of the girls demanding out of normal prices and services. I go there for a weekend trip to relax. If I find a nice girl so be it. Otherwise I can thoroughly satisfy myself by going to Asia.
Oscillating attitude about prostitution on the part of the government has kept many country girls away from Sosua. I do not want to get flamed talking about good old times.
Guys, be careful out there.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-couple-found-dead-in-their-hotel-room-in-dominican-republic.amp[/URL]
I think you should secure your room with any woman, in any country. However, Dominicanas seem to be especially keen on scoping out your belongings. QUOTE].
Last year in Sosua. I try and lock up most thing. Hide the hair brush in a drawer. Ear bud in sock.
But the girl got my contacts. Never thought a girl would be stupid enough to take contacts. Like my prescription is going to match. Wear regular glass most of the time. So I did not notice for a few days. But one more thing for the safe.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2330690]I think you should secure your room with any woman, in any country. However, Dominicanas seem to be especially keen on scoping out your belongings. QUOTE].
Last year in Sosua. I try and lock up most thing. Hide the hair brush in a drawer. Ear bud in sock.
But the girl got my contacts. Never thought a girl would be stupid enough to take contacts. Like my prescription is going to match. Wear regular glass most of the time. So I did not notice for a few days. But one more thing for the safe.[/QUOTE]Mongering in a dirt poor country always has it's minor irritants, mosquitos, petty crime, torrential rains, frequent power outages, hot water scarcity, even as a poster complained here recently, not enough towels. Bringing a stranger off the street into your room, always carries a slight element of risk!
On the other hand it offers desperate uneducated young beautiful women widely available to all, at bargain prices.
You can't have everything in life! LOL.
East of Sosua is Cabarete and Ocean Manor Resort which I highly recommend to take a special chica only $90/ night all inclusive (all drinks and great food all you can eat restaurant-style not buffet) great value and great swimming pools, great beach, quiet, private, great rooms. Staff / bartenders are good, too. You can also go horseback riding if you want. Salud!
After an interesting first day in Sosua I wake up eat breakfast at new gardens (which is actually pretty good) and I get ready to head to sosua beach for the first time. Man they could smell yje gringo on me all the locals was trying to get me and my brother to buy everything LOL. Meet a couple badies on the beach and get there number for late night fuckery. So we hit the strip about 10 and these chicas have lost they damn minds. They quoting 60 70 and 80 bucks for a short stay and it was cats there paying that shit smh. I don't tell nobody how to spend they money but why overpay. Linked up with a old school cat who was telling me the weekend warriors go home tomorrow so the prices will drop. Sure enough Sunday those 80 mommies gladly took this 40 I was offering LOL. The ones who wouldn't budge from 70 were roaming the strip all night not finding any clients. So Saturday I only linked up with chicas from the beach. Sunday is when the chicas gather there sense back. Was talking to a guy in new gardens who was pissed because he gave a chica $100 for short stay thinking it would make his experience better and all she did was rush him and literally laughed when he complained LOL.
If the home boy is not safe, how can you be? What is going on in the DR? Way too many crime stories coming out about this country!
Big Popi was big time balling, Driving a Lamborgini in a dirt poor country while banging a big time drug dealers wife can get you shot. Avoid that guys yoo will be OK.
Two days back, I was eating at New Garden (the quality there has gone down the drain but I would eat that rather than the crappy and ubiquitous burger and steak; also the place was literally empty as a result of course) and observed something that is worth speaking of.
A young black man, early 30's or late 20's, came in and went where the pizza oven is and sat with a woman and ordered food. I did not pay much attention to that. After some time, the food came and he had ordered a pizza which is when I noticed a Dominican lad, straggling outside, came in, uncertain of himself, and whether he was even welcome and went to where the young man was sitting. The lad was asked to sit down next to the young man, who then proceeded to give him slices of pizza along with cutlery. The lad had some trouble managing the fork and knife (holding the knife with left and the fork with his right) and being in a formal mode. I looked at him, smiled to myself and hollared at him in Spanish, asking him to grab the pizza slice with his hand, just like the young man next to him was doing. The lad (and the young man smiled) and settled down and I said a few words to the young man in English acknowledging his act of kindness.
It is so easy to speak of the poverty and the thieving mentality of women, so much more rare to do something about it. The young man, from Chicago or perhaps NYC, was a prime example of such kindness. May his tribe increase!
[QUOTE=DCups;2331314]East of Sosua is Cabarete and Ocean Manor Resort[/QUOTE]Came to mind this recent connection, knowing your proclivities, the CUPS: a young woman, who I thought would be a M from photos but turned out to be a S (so unfortunately the flowery dress was not a good fit) and buxom! The ideal kind: petite lissome body and full and abundant breasts. What a God's creation! I will have drunken from the cup 4 times before I leave.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2333673]Big Popi was big time balling, Driving a Lamborgini in a dirt poor country while banging a big time drug dealers wife can get you shot. Avoid that guys yoo will be OK.[/QUOTE]David Ortiz is the legendary Boston Red Sox slugger who earned his wealth legitimately through talent and hard work. He was shot by a common criminal. I wish him a speedy recovery.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/brother-of-shark-tank-star-barbara-corcoran-found-dead-in-dominican-republic-hotel-room-report[/URL]
Something is not rite. All the incidents can not be accidental. Now FBI is involved.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2334394]Came to mind this recent connection, knowing your proclivities, the CUPS: a young woman, who I thought would be a M from photos but turned out to be a S (so unfortunately the flowery dress was not a good fit) and buxom! The ideal kind: petite lissome body and full and abundant breasts. What a God's creation! I will have drunken from the cup 4 times before I leave.[/QUOTE]Well done, my friend! The country is teeming with beautiful bodies and spirits!
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2334753][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/brother-of-shark-tank-star-barbara-corcoran-found-dead-in-dominican-republic-hotel-room-report[/URL]
Something is not rite. All the incidents can not be accidental. Now FBI is involved.[/QUOTE]I would look harder at incidents of obvious violence. Then for a motive; robbery or sexual assault?
Couple found in room with fluid in lungs? Possible mix of alcohol and recreational medication, IMO. Anything stolen from room?
Woman beaten? Maybe low level criminal. In its own self interest, the hotel chain should be leading demands for solving the case. Will destroy business for them unless perp found.
Deaths from mini-bar? No mention of drinks' caps being tampered with. Nothing stolen? Who benefits?
Hopefully autopsies will be done, looking for source of (possible) poisoning.
IF they ever solve this, will be interesting to see. DR authorities will get all over this if they have a lick of sense. Will hurt their economy.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2334901]Deaths from mini-bar? No mention of drinks' caps being tampered with. Nothing stolen? Who benefits?[/QUOTE]It could just as well have been the hotel benefiting from buying cheaper counterfeit alcohol. If that was the case, then of course they would not want to lead any demands for solving the cases, because the finger would be pointing back at them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2334933]It could just as well have been the hotel benefiting from buying cheaper counterfeit alcohol. If that was the case, then of course they would not want to lead any demands for solving the cases, because the finger would be pointing back at them.[/QUOTE]Maybe real bottle stolen by housekeeping and replaced with same bottles with local contaminated hooch. Or most often guests doing easily available drugs. It is impossible for resorts to check every employee and also check guests for illegal drugs. I for one never used liquor taken from the room fridge. I usually buy at the duty free and bring my own.
Hello,
I've been in Sosua in 2012 and planning to go in a couple of weeks. I will meet with a girls I know and 1 or 2 friends of her.
Where is better to stay. Sosua or Cabarette? I don't need to pick girls on the street but I liked some of the bars at Sosua.
What would be a average price for a whole night / day? Would that change for multiple days?
What would be a high price (high end girl) for a whole night / day?
Thanks in advance!
P.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2334949]I for one never used liquor taken from the room fridge. I usually buy at the duty free and bring my own.[/QUOTE]Beware. In most cases it is cheaper to buy liquor at the grocery store, unless it is something that is exclusively available at duty free.
She was swiming in Cabarete from news reports and got swept out to sea by the currents.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2019/06/13/yoga-teacher-dragged-out-to-sea-is-latest-to-die-dominican-republic/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons[/URL]
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2334901]Deaths from mini-bar? No mention of drinks' caps being tampered with. Nothing stolen? Who benefits?[/QUOTE]I saw a news clip of a reporter walking though a "typical" room at one of the resorts. What's interesting is that the mini bar did not have airplane style bottles in it. Instead it had full sized (750 ML) bottles inside the door in a gravity dispenser. He demonstrated taking a glass and holding it under the spout while pressing the lever. Booze flowed into the glass. So it would be especially easy to tamper with an already open bottle.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2334949]Maybe real bottle stolen by housekeeping and replaced with same bottles with local contaminated hooch. Or most often guests doing easily available drugs. It is impossible for resorts to check every employee and also check guests for illegal drugs. I for one never used liquor taken from the room fridge. I usually buy at the duty free and bring my own.[/QUOTE]Unless you are staying in the penthouse or an all inclusive, liquor is generally cheaper at duty free. Also, most bottles at hotels have plastic or metal perforated seals. I always drink the cheap ass champagne for breakfast and have never had an issue.
Word on the street is that Old Kool is a person of interest.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2334975]She was swiming in Cabarete from news reports and got swept out to sea by the currents.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2019/06/13/yoga-teacher-dragged-out-to-sea-is-latest-to-die-dominican-republic/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons[/URL][/QUOTE]The Dominican Republic has well over 6 million visitors a year. That's twice the size of Chicago. You would expect a fair number of fatalities, accidental or otherwise in a number that large.
"Last year, 13 Americans died in the Dominican Republic. Four of the deaths were the results of drownings, four were auto accidents, two were homicides, one was suicide, and one was an undisclosed accident", according to the US State Department.
A lot of tourists overindulge on the free, unsealed liquor and beer at the all-inclusives, and the temptation for some bar staff to substitute bootlegged booze in area bars is always there.
No license is needed to sell food on the street or from a vacant lot, and strangers do big business on the beaches selling food, ice cream and shell fish from a basket on the hottest days to tourists.
So there's lots to be aware of.
But another problem tourists face is having to vacate their rooms on certain days, for the mandatory pest spraying. I see many people complaining and having a bad reaction to these unknown chemicals sprayed liberally, especially older folks. But if hotels don't spray, they get complaints about bugs.
You got to be careful out there, if you don't want to go home with more than a bad case of the runs!
And my own Golden Rule: never, ever get into an argument or insult the person who serves you food! Lol
[QUOTE=Oakie;2335961]The Dominican Republic has well over 6 million visitors a year. That's twice the size of Chicago. You would expect a fair number of fatalities, accidental or otherwise in a number that large.
"Last year, 13 Americans died in the Dominican Republic. Four of the deaths were the results of drownings, four were auto accidents, two were homicides, one was suicide, and one was an undisclosed accident", according to the US State Department.
A lot of tourists overindulge on the free, unsealed liquor and beer at the all-inclusives, and the temptation for some bar staff to substitute bootlegged booze in area bars is always there.
No license is needed to sell food on the street or from a vacant lot, and strangers do big business on the beaches selling food, ice cream and shell fish from a basket on the hottest days to tourists.
So there's lots to be aware of.
But another problem tourists face is having to vacate their rooms on certain days, for the mandatory pest spraying. I see many people complaining and having a bad reaction to these unknown chemicals sprayed liberally, especially older folks. But if hotels don't spray, they get complaints about bugs.
You got to be careful out there, if you don't want to go home with more than a bad case of the runs!
And my own Golden Rule: never, ever get into an argument or insult the person who serves you food! Lol[/QUOTE]You preaching to the choir. Organophosphate poisoning is the thinking for some of the deaths but there are a lot of variables at play when people die. I am just saying how are ironic that an American drown with everything that is going on recently with American tourist. But now I am curious to know the statistics of other foriegners who visited the country.
Hey guys,
Is generic cialis available for purchase in Sosua? And are all the money changers basically the same, or is there one that generally offers the best exchange rate (USD)? Thanks.
[QUOTE=DriveAllNight;2336183]Hey guys,
Is generic cialis available for purchase in Sosua? And are all the money changers basically the same, or is there one that generally offers the best exchange rate (USD)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Answer to first question is Yes. Generic Cialis under brand name La Pela (forgot the other brand). (Mambo?) But yes, in any farmacia.
Money can be exchanged in Western Union offices, exchange offices in La Sirena stores, etc. Or ask your cabbie to take you to a 'cambio. ' (Usually need to show your passport). There are exchange offices all over, to include most bus depots. The rates don't vary hugely.
Answers are generic, as you didn't specify a location.
[QUOTE=Japansh;2334966]Hello,
I've been in Sosua in 2012 and planning to go in a couple of weeks. I will meet with a girls I know and 1 or 2 friends of her.
Where is better to stay. Sosua or Cabarette? I don't need to pick girls on the street but I liked some of the bars at Sosua.
What would be a average price for a whole night / day? Would that change for multiple days?
What would be a high price (high end girl) for a whole night / day?
Thanks in advance!
P.[/QUOTE]Check airbnb, [URL]booking.com[/URL], etc to compare prices. Cabarete probably a little more expensive, but I stayed in a condo on the beach for under $50 one summer. Hard to say which is better, depends on your interests. More girls available in Sosua, but some available in Cabarete via tinder, etc. Lot's of info on the forum. I sometimes combine my stays with both places.
[URL]https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/New-Jersey-Man-American-Tourist-Dies-Dominican-Republic-Death-Investigation-511418921.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2336741][URL]https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/New-Jersey-Man-American-Tourist-Dies-Dominican-Republic-Death-Investigation-511418921.html[/URL][/QUOTE]A chick in DR that I mess with who is a doctor has heard of none of these incidents that are big stories in the foreign news.
"Sixth person killed".
Killed and died are two very different things; is there any reason to believe there was foul play or this is just crap reporting?
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2336741][URL]https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/New-Jersey-Man-American-Tourist-Dies-Dominican-Republic-Death-Investigation-511418921.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2337012]"Sixth person killed".
Killed and died are two very different things; is there any reason to believe there was foul play or this is just crap reporting?[/QUOTE]The current Western Journalism obsession with DR actuarial mortality rates at least takes the heat off of their other obsession, "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" LOL.
(When your travel insurance premiums go up, you'll know there is a real problem!)
I have never been to the Caribbean. Have heard good reports about Dominican Republic and want to travel there later in the year. Is Sosua the best place to stay for the first time in the Dominican Republic?
[QUOTE=George03;2336506]Check airbnb, [URL]booking.com[/URL], etc to compare prices. Cabarete probably a little more expensive, but I stayed in a condo on the beach for under $50 one summer. Hard to say which is better, depends on your interests. More girls available in Sosua, but some available in Cabarete via tinder, etc. Lot's of info on the forum. I sometimes combine my stays with both places.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that information.
Any info about the price of girls service?
What would be a average price for a whole night / day? Would that change for multiple days?
What would be a high price (high end girl) for a whole night / day?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337199]I have never been to the Caribbean. Have heard good reports about Dominican Republic and want to travel there later in the year. Is Sosua the best place to stay for the first time in the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]I am sure OldKool and Oakie will say "yes". It is as good an introduction as any. If you have no Spanish you might consider spending your first few days at Blackbeards to get the feel of the country and learn from other guys there. But if you have Spanish, or are the confident type, plunge straight into the Sosua circus.
Don't come if you are American. They are dropping like flies in the DR (according to First World media).
[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337199]I have never been to the Caribbean. Have heard good reports about Dominican Republic and want to travel there later in the year. Is Sosua the best place to stay for the first time in the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]Charles Pooter gave you good advice. If you are experienced in trolling the streets and bars in other locations, ie, Philippines, Thailand, etc, it may not be a problem. (Spanish ability, of course, helps a lot). Cruise the streets / bars, learn the scene, negotiate, travel back to hotel, repeat / rinse.
Buyer beware. No quality control, or anywhere to take complaints.
If new, BB for the first few days is a good intro. Controlled environment, no drugs, thieves, allowed on premises. Monthly checkups for STDs. Take any problems to the management.
Prices are set. See one you like, start the chat, take her to your room, only 30 yards away. Repeat / rinse. A good intro for beginners.
P.S. Check the respective threads for details, if questions remain, post them.
[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337199]I have never been to the Caribbean. Have heard good reports about Dominican Republic and want to travel there later in the year. Is Sosua the best place to stay for the first time in the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]Knowing Spanish is not necessary. In the world of mongering all need to know is how much and how long. Even if you discuss all other things and agreed, all goes out of the window once in the room. Girls apart from online hook ups with country girls want to make money and leave as quickly as possible.
Sosua is the best place where you will find girls of all shapes, shades, attitudes. Very safe to walk around in the main drag. There are close to two hundred girls to choose from. There are many mongers mostly from USA who will help you. You need to play some games to get the best girl without spending too much. It is a bit of an adventure. Last May I went it was full of guys from New York City. Not many pretty girls. If you like beach activities Sosua beach is good. Cabarete is a short ride away.
If you like structured no hassles adventure go to BB resort. It is like a brothel resort. Fixed prices. I never stayed there so cannot vouch for anything.
I like a bit of adventure all over the world.
BB resort sounds like it might be a good option for a few days, has BB resort got some real quality pussy there and how do they compare to the clubs and bars of Sosua.
[QUOTE=Japansh;2337218]Thank you for that information.
Any info about the price of girls service?
What would be a average price for a whole night / day? Would that change for multiple days?
What would be a high price (high end girl) for a whole night / day?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Prices seem to be fluid. If you read the Sosua forum, you will be up to date on that info. I haven't seen tons of info on Cabarete. My trip there, I pulled a girl from Tinder. Short term was a little more than Sosua, but I don't have a big sample size.
Just got back last week. Usual short trip. It went much better compared to the last trip. Women wise. Food wise, it was pretty bad until I heard a great piece of news, lamentably late. An Italian restaurant in Cabarete. Beach side, I think it is how it is called. Those that are into food, may want to try it but it is in Cabarete. The dollar exchange rate is 50.6 at Caribe and interestingly I got the same rate at Playero supermercado, when I paid with foreign currency.
Mangoes aplenty and good ones. There are Chinese eateries even on the main drag now so yes, certain changes are visible and probably investments in real estate is happening. Girls I cannot speak of. There were plenty on the streets despite the heat but I have no need as those I need, visit me directly. Had a BnB place, so I could make my cuppa tea when I wished. The day I left, put all the unused grocery in a bag for a girl to take home with her. No wasting anything. Very pleased with that.
So, to sum it up, I just visited the DR and came back, and not in a body bag! Granted I only had a couple of Coronas and Grappa. Most stay way from such things I guess at the "unlimited drink" places. Jajaja!
Sosua is point and click could not be easier. You have no worries. Your problem is deciding which girl gets your leche. Don't over think it. Most girls will go for 2000 pesos offer 1500 and go no higher then 2500 for short time. If you find one you like keep her for a while the sex will get better. Jiust remember you are the boss. Be cautious of overly aggressive girls. If they promise to much avoid them. These are the ones who do 180's when they ge to the room. Avoid girls who are in packs they tend to be the seasoned hardcore girls. It is hard to judge but hardcore girls can sometimes screw your brains out but for newby they can be trouble. End of the day you will an awesome time 200 plus willing women dream come true.
[QUOTE=George03;2337717]Prices seem to be fluid. If you read the Sosua forum, you will be up to date on that info. I haven't seen tons of info on Cabarete. My trip there, I pulled a girl from Tinder. Short term was a little more than Sosua, but I don't have a big sample size.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2337870]Sosua is point and click could not be easier. You have no worries. Your problem is deciding which girl gets your leche. Don't over think it. Most girls will go for 2000 pesos offer 1500 and go no higher then 2500 for short time. If you find one you like keep her for a while the sex will get better. Jiust remember you are the boss. Be cautious of overly aggressive girls. If they promise to much avoid them. These are the ones who do 180's when they ge to the room. Avoid girls who are in packs they tend to be the seasoned hardcore girls. It is hard to judge but hardcore girls can sometimes screw your brains out but for newby they can be trouble. End of the day you will an awesome time 200 plus willing women dream come true.[/QUOTE]Thank you OldKool.
Would 4000 be good amount for a whole day or 5000?
Cheers,
Peter.
Tempoecorto, these chinese places are cooking fast chinese food? Are there a lot of chinese people in Sosua?
[QUOTE=George03;2337717]Prices seem to be fluid. I haven't seen tons of info on Cabarete. My trip there, I pulled a girl from Tinder. Short term was a little more than Sosua, but I don't have a big sample size.[/QUOTE]How is that? Are you negotiating or telling them what price you will pay, or are you just accepting the price they are giving you?
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2337973]Tempoecorto, these chinese places are cooking fast chinese food? Are there a lot of chinese people in Sosua?[/QUOTE]Chinese people are doing in DR as they have done everywhere else. They go to a country with the clothes on their backs and knowing zero of the language and living with the whole family in one room. They start doing stuff like selling fruit on the corner. They finally have enough money to start a small store. They save enough for a bigger store or restaurant. They do not buy extravagant things, instead using their money to send their kids to school while living in the back of the store or restaurant.
The kids graduate with degrees in business. They save money and open more stores and restaurants. They now have a command of the language in their new country. Now they have a whole chain of reataurants and stores and are able to move to a big house and buy nice things.
Meanwhile, the locals that have been sitting around bullshitting the whole time hate them and swear the government gave them this, that, and the other so that they would be able to get rich. This exact scenario has happened in too many countries to count.
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;2337973]Tempoecorto, these chinese places are cooking fast chinese food? Are there a lot of chinese people in Sosua?[/QUOTE]Mr. Enternational gave you a brief and historical perspective.
The "Chinese" food in the DR is a re-hash of the classic and unfortunately "popular" DR food, fried chicken and friend banana (and now french fries), followed by a bit of Chinese stuff. These I first noticed in other cities, like Santiago etc but now in Sosua, within a span of a few blocks, there are several, and so yes, you do see a good number of Chinese around. The DR folks are getting fatter by the minute, as people in the inner cities are, and for similar reasons. Personally, I wonder, which province of China, are these people from. Typically it is chain migration and usually geographically focused.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338078]How is that? Are you negotiating or telling them what price you will pay, or are you just accepting the price they are giving you?[/QUOTE]I was answering someone's question, mainly about Cabarete. I don't personally overpay, but it seems some here are complaining about rising prices.
do 5 k if she is with me all day and night and is giving sex on demand. I also buy meals and pay expenses. At the end of the day it is a bargain for the quality of sex and fun you get but only with a girl you connect with. I treat them like a girlfriend . Go to Cabereti and spend time on the beach not bothered by the hustlers. Dominican women know how to satisfy a man /.
Would 4000 be good amount for a whole day or 5000?
Cheers,
[QUOTE=Japansh;2337943]Thank you OldKool.
Would 4000 be good amount for a whole day or 5000?
Cheers,
Peter.[/QUOTE]I would not offer 4 or 5000 right away without knowing how friendly this girl is and how she satisfies you in sex. I generally bargain from 2000 for whole night. Many laugh but there is always one girl who will accept. Depending on how we enjoy each other I offer more money if she wants to stay all night. You will be surprised how many girls want to stay with you few days once they like you. I always rent a car and we have a great time together. Money alone does not guarantee good company and service.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2338316]do 5 k if she is with me all day and night and is giving sex on demand. I also buy meals and pay expenses. Dominican women know how to satisfy a man /.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's correct, and even a bit too much if for several days I do prefer GFE long time escapes with top girl, rather than fucking 2 put** each day.
When several days, I try my best to give 3000/ day, but including everything else (meals, going out, tours, and so on.).
[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337613]BB resort sounds like it might be a good option for a few days, has BB resort got some real quality pussy there and how do they compare to the clubs and bars of Sosua.[/QUOTE]You will get conflicting opinions from the crowds that prefer Sosua, and the BB fans. Rather than deal with opinions of others (and we all know everyone has one) suggest you to to the BB website, and get their free monthly newsletter that includes plenty of pictures of the girls. That's blackbeardsadultresort dotcom.
Secondly, you can email them and request they send you a collection of girls' photos.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2337198]The current Western Journalism obsession with DR actuarial mortality rates at least takes the heat off of their other obsession[/QUOTE]Saw a report on CNN today that the US State Department says there has been no uptick in US tourist deaths in the DR. It reports that the media focus on recent incidents only make it appear that way. I personally note that lately reports include deaths of people that died in 2018, even going back to 2016. That said, I would really like to see reports from US authorities that give definitive assessments for the causes of the deaths.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2338545]Saw a report on CNN today that the US State Department says there has been no uptick in US tourist deaths in the DR. It reports that the media focus on recent incidents only make it appear that way. [/QUOTE]My buddy sent me something yesterday of a guy talking about since China is trying to come into DR, the US govt has decided to publicize what has always been normal deaths as a form of propaganda to scare tourists away and hit DR in the pocket for working with China.
The only deaths I see as suspicious are the four where the two couples died together.
[URL]https://youtu.be/_hYPEYcEDt4[/URL]
[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337613]BB resort sounds like it might be a good option for a few days, has BB resort got some real quality pussy there and how do they compare to the clubs and bars of Sosua.[/QUOTE]If this is your first trip, I would recommend splitting time in both places. BB's, not as much to do, but a few restaurants in the area, set prices for chicas. I like to spend 2 or 3 days there, but would get bored much longer than that. Plenty to do in Sosua day and night.
Yangui69 and George03 thanks for the good information.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2338545]Saw a report on CNN today that the US State Department says there has been no uptick in US tourist deaths in the DR. It reports that the media focus on recent incidents only make it appear that way. I personally note that lately reports include deaths of people that died in 2018, even going back to 2016. [/QUOTE]Media's only interest is to get more eyeballs and death is a great attention-getter, for human psyche. The more eyeballs, the more ad revenue and reality be damned!
Just to keep the perspective, there are some 8 billions of homo sapiens around the world, and we are speaking of 3 or 4?
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2338485]Yeah, that's correct, and even a bit too much if for several days I do prefer GFE long time escapes with top girl, rather than fucking 2 put** each day.
When several days, I try my best to give 3000/ day, but including everything else (meals, going out, tours, and so on.).[/QUOTE]Thank you all.
NamasteParis, that is exactly my approach, good GFE, top girl, cover everything and at good level.
Any top girls contacts you can share?
Cheers,
Peter.
[QUOTE=Japansh;2339819]Thank you all.
NamasteParis, that is exactly my approach, good GFE, top girl, cover everything and at good level.
Any top girls contacts you can share?
Cheers,
Peter.[/QUOTE]My best advice for such approach is to use DominicanCupid. Lots of students, semi-pros, and 'normal' girls there. Contact, chat on Whatsapp, and try to get a video call before you meet. There are not lot of scams in this DC app, in the DR area I mean. But if you use LatinAmericanCupid for Venezuela, beware.
I was talking about this with a friend yesterday and we were saying that the way Dominicans drive, they must have the best car insurance in the world. Another person at the spot said that he doubted if the majority of people driving even have car insurance, that why they have such a fit when they have an accident. How much does care insurance cost in the DR? Not for foreigners but for the locals.
Been in the sue for a week. I haven't been up past 11 pm. But I've never seen it so slow. Nonetheless I'm having a good time! Lots of bros around as usual. As far as chicas I've been sticking with my regulars mostly. I did work in one exceptionally pretty chica from Santo Domingo. They've all happily accepted 2 k pesos on the first offer. There's not many guys here so yes I'm lowballing. Good times! Peace!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2341531]I was talking about this with a friend yesterday and we were saying that the way Dominicans drive, they must have the best car insurance in the world. Another person at the spot said that he doubted if the majority of people driving even have car insurance, that why they have such a fit when they have an accident. How much does care insurance cost in the DR? Not for foreigners but for the locals.[/QUOTE]Just bought a 2019 Renault Captour (2000 CC) for $25,000 US. Full coverage comes to $1,000 US / year. Before that the minimum mandatory for a 2004 Mitshu Endeavour was about 3000 DP / year.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2341531]How much does care insurance cost in the DR? Not for foreigners but for the locals.[/QUOTE]My doctor chick said when she bought her car she paid 38K for full coverage for 1 year. She just renewed it for 15K.
[QUOTE=DCups;2331314]East of Sosua is Cabarete and Ocean Manor Resort which I highly recommend to take a special chica only $90/ night all inclusive (all drinks and great food all you can eat restaurant-style not buffet) great value and great swimming pools, great beach, quiet, private, great rooms. Staff / bartenders are good, too. You can also go horseback riding if you want. Salud![/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity what is the best dating app to find a good utr chica? Thinking of going to sousa next week. Thanks in advance.
This beauty claims to be 100% serious, so I looked up that Sosua has by far the most posts and hence putas in DR, like Ibiza, Cancun, Medellin, Rio, Bankok.
Can you even find a serious girl in Sosua? I mean GF / W -material?
After a semester on Cupid I have found no serious girl, all medium / good looking or fake profile, while at last IRL and on Cupid or Latineuro there are always a chance, even is those IRL / romance-sites have turned into almost 100% brothels as well.
I don't mind, apart when I'm love sick. Then it's impossible to find a serious girl. I mean, I'm 46 yo and with fair looks and masculine body and a easy person to like to have fun.
But as others has commented; it's all about the money, even the young hard-bodied guys spend money and expect romance and while don't they take it as a personal defeat. Actually and girls like medium older men since they expect less and pay more!
And maybe for the best; pros are a cheap and easy commodity. I just have to get over this romance-depression and kick-start again.
Feel many have the same pattern of emotional waves.
Better to have 5-10 lady-friends that just enjoy life. Many of them have taken care of me as GF anyway, as "ama de casa". And then we simply don't ask about sensitive questions.
Hi mongers!
My friend and I have a very late flight to Santiago and will need a ride to Sosua at 2 AM.
Any problems getting taxi there at that time?
How much will be the ride?
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338552]My buddy sent me something yesterday of a guy talking about since China is trying to come into DR, the US govt has decided to publicize what has always been normal deaths as a form of propaganda to scare tourists away and hit DR in the pocket for working with China. [/QUOTE]Sounds very conspiracy theory to me. I'm pretty sure DR is no more than a blimp on the State Dept radar.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338552]The only deaths I see as suspicious are the four where the two couples died together.
[URL]https://youtu.be/_hYPEYcEDt4[/URL][/QUOTE]Exactly! How often do you hear about people dying of natural causes at the same time? This more than anything makes me believe that something fishy is going on, uptick or not. Other than that, there is nothing uncommon about folks having life-threatening allergic reaction to pesticides, a sensitive stomach, or simply overindulging on food and booze.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2342793]Just out of curiosity what is the best dating app to find a good utr chica? [/QUOTE]What is a "utr chica". Is it a nationality like Uzbek, or one of the new sexual orientations that they are discovering faster than nuclear particles these days?
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2343035]What is a "utr chica". Is it a nationality like Uzbek, or one of the new sexual orientations that they are discovering faster than nuclear particles these days?[/QUOTE]Under the radar. Stealth chica?
Waste of time and money. They have cabanas, short term rooms very nice. For 20 bucks 5 minute from airport. Catch the bus to Sosua AR 7 am for 8 dollars. A cab will cost you 100 bucks to Sosua. If you know any girls in the DR they would meet you at airport and go to a cabana and fuck your brains out.
[QUOTE=Vsegdaforu;2342974]Hi mongers!
My friend and I have a very late flight to Santiago and will need a ride to Sosua at 2 AM.
Any problems getting taxi there at that time?
How much will be the ride?
Any suggestions?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
My chick that works at Banco Popular corporate in Santo Domingo is on vacation so she bought a ticket and came to visit me in the States. She arrived on the 3rd and is going back on the 8th. This morning after fucking, I noticed her crouched down in the bathtub splashing water from the spigot onto her body. I figured she was just trying to wash her cooch off and showed her the hand bidet that I have next to the toilet, indicating that she could have just sat on the toilet and used that.
When we got in tonight after a long day out, she went in to take a shower and I heard the water running out of the spigot. I went into the bathroom and she was doing the same damn thing. I told her to either get up and take a shower or sit down and take a bath. You won't be doing that Dumbinican shit in my crib. She talking about she doesn't want to get her hair wet. I said fuck that and turned on the shower.
A few months back I was going back and forth with a bm in the Angeles City thread because I mentioned that I don't usually ask chicks' names. He said it was stupid and disrespectful. I told him that half the time they don't give you the real name anyway, so why bother. So, we had a big family event at my uncle's house today and I took my girl. I have been fucking with her for 6 years. I introduced her to all my cousins and aunts and my daughter as Yesmin. We were about to leave my uncle's house and one of my cousins was in the pool and yelled out bye Yesmin. She said my name is "her real name. "
When she left from by the pool my cousin called me over and said why did you say her name was Yesmin? I said dude that is what she told me when I met her. Look in my phone. It has said Yesmin in here for 6 years. (I know it was 6 years because I wrote her age next to her name when I met her and she is now 6 years older than that age.) So that is a prime example of why half the time I do not bother asking chicks their name. After 6 years I am just learning this chick's name (and she still has not said it directly to me; I only overheard her saying it to my cousin!)
[QUOTE=OldKool;2343092]Waste of time and money. They have cabanas, short term rooms very nice. For 20 bucks 5 minute from airport. Catch the bus to Sosua AR 7 am for 8 dollars. A cab will cost you 100 bucks to Sosua. If you know any girls in the DR they would meet you at airport and go to a cabana and fuck your brains out.[/QUOTE]Check this out. [URL]https://www.tropiclink.net[/URL].
I used it a few months ago. A shared ride, but my flights were in and out very late, so I was the only one on the bus. Not as cheap as the bus, but less than half a cab. At the time I was there, they only picked up at hotels. There was more info on the Blackbeards site a few months back.
Friday night in the Sue and things are dead. The police have been sleeping all afternoon. We are keeping the streets clean. I've heard it's because a new colonel has took over and he's trying to set a confirm tone.
[QUOTE=George03;2343361]Check this out. [URL]https://www.tropiclink.net[/URL].
I used it a few months ago. A shared ride, but my flights were in and out very late, so I was the only one on the bus. Not as cheap as the bus, but less than half a cab. At the time I was there, they only picked up at hotels. There was more info on the Blackbeards site a few months back.[/QUOTE]Just looked on their site and their rate from STI to Caribetours Las America, Santiago this is the down town depot not the smaller one closer to the airport, about a 30 minute trip, is double the, rate I have paid the last 4 times with taxis waiting at STI, paying 600 pesos never an argument.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2343092]Waste of time and money. They have cabanas, short term rooms very nice. For 20 bucks 5 minute from airport. Catch the bus to Sosua AR 7 am for 8 dollars. A cab will cost you 100 bucks to Sosua. If you know any girls in the DR they would meet you at airport and go to a cabana and fuck your brains out.[/QUOTE]I concur. If arriving in Santiago at 2 am, getting a cab to Sosua gets you there before dawn. Nothing to do for hours.
Find a place to get a few hours sleep, then a morning bus from Caribe Tours to Sosua.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2343092]Waste of time and money. They have cabanas, short term rooms very nice. For 20 bucks 5 minute from airport. Catch the bus to Sosua AR 7 am for 8 dollars. A cab will cost you 100 bucks to Sosua. If you know any girls in the DR they would meet you at airport and go to a cabana and fuck your brains out.[/QUOTE]I arrive on 5 July at 2 o'clock in the morning from Fort Lauderdale. Uber ride calculator 1972 pesos. The Uber driver texted me and told me the price was $70. I told him to fuck off. He didn't want to cancel my reservation and told me good luck. Then he came to the airport to try and take me anyway.
Uber would not allowed to cancel the reservation without charging me 70 pesos. I was ready to show them the text of the driver changing the rate of pay. They credit my account the 70 pesos. Call my partner who has a taxis for a back up plan and he charge me 60 dollars. He initially said $70.
I arrangedto check in early in da Sue. I arrived at around 330. Just in time to get a snack because chicas were still out and about. Normal taxis charge you $20 to go from the airport to the city. In the city I would have to get a quick room 500 pesos until the bus station opens. Then catch an Uber 300 peso to the bus station. Then deal with the bus. I did that last month and really did like it. I'the rather just pay the $60.
In the Bar downstairs from Classico; a quick glacé around it's about 6 to 1 chicas. Roughly about 60 Chica in here and they are hungry. I walked in took a seat and was swapped like a new gringo. IMO the Sue is the best bang for you buck on the east coast.
I walked my amiga and her friend to city lights aka Haitian central. Don't sleep on this place. Diamonds in the rough here.
Last day of the Sue. Chicas were hungry and now I understand why. Last night; I traded a cell phone I bought for 30 bucks for a session. I gave her the choice of telephone or 1700 pesos. The girl explained to me that the police are doing so many sweeps it's difficult to make money. All my st are 1500 -1700. It's bittersweet with the sweeps.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2343983]Last day of the Sue. Chicas were hungry and now I understand why. Last night; I traded a cell phone I bought for 30 bucks for a session. I gave her the choice of telephone or 1700 pesos. The girl explained to me that the police are doing so many sweeps it's difficult to make money. All my st are 1500 -1700. It's bittersweet with the sweeps.[/QUOTE]Good deal haha, are there not many tourist around for the chicas or is it low season?
I have caught a lot of flack for cheer leading for Sosua. The quantity and ease of Sosua is untouchable. I live on the east coast and can do a 5 day trip for 1000 buck. The flight to Rio cost almost a grand. I have the money and time to go any where in the world but Sosua is my go to spot until it breaks. I have about 10 girls who will post when ever I am in the DR. These girls give awesome GFE but I am still drawn to Sosua for the wild card girls.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2343824]In the Bar downstairs from Classico; a quick glac around it's about 6 to 1 chicas. Roughly about 60 Chica in here and they are hungry. I walked in took a seat and was swapped like a new gringo. IMO the Sue is the best bang for you buck on the east coast.[/QUOTE]
I have caught a lot of flack for cheer leading for Sosua. The quantity and ease of Sosua is untouchable. I live on the east coast and can do a 5 day trip for 1000 buck. The flight to Rio cost almost a grand. I have the money and time to go any where in the world but Sosua is my go to spot until it breaks. I have about 10 girls who will post when ever I am in the DR. These girls give awesome GFE but I am still drawn to Sosua for the wild card girls.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2343824]In the Bar downstairs from Classico; a quick glac around it's about 6 to 1 chicas. Roughly about 60 Chica in here and they are hungry. I walked in took a seat and was swapped like a new gringo. IMO the Sue is the best bang for you buck on the east coast.[/QUOTE]
One of my go to girls posted a photo of a wedding picture. Looks like she married an American, I was pounding her just 6 weeks ago. She was great in bed but by not mariage materia. L.
My old girl got maried 2 weeks ago to an American. She looked lovely in her wedding dress. Her husband is living in the US. Never the less she told me today I am still her man. To all you guys who want to make.
Ho into a house wife beware. I have a respect for marriage and try to never knowing fuck other mens wives. She laid it out there and told me why she wanted me see her I was in the DR.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2344149]One of my go to girls posted a photo of a wedding picture. Looks like she married an American, I was pounding her just 6 weeks ago. She was great in bed but by not mariage materia. L.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2344469]My old girl got maried 2 weeks ago to an American. She looked lovely in her wedding dress. Her husband is living in the US. Never the less she told me today I am still her man. To all you guys who want to make.
Ho into a house wife beware. I have a respect for marriage and try to never knowing fuck other mens wives. She laid it out there and told me why she wanted me see her I was in the DR.[/QUOTE]I'm glad I have the honor of learning from OGs like you. I'll follow those same rules. I also leave associates and work colleague old ladies alone. I don't care if you just girlfriend and boyfriend. Wow she didn't draw the line I'm glad you did!
Wrapping up a 3 week trip. Had a blast! Good weather, good friends! Had good luck chica wise sticking with my contract list mainly. Did 2 new chicas. One was a solid 8 from Santo Domingo I pulled for 2 k.
Cops were snatching Chicas again yesterday in the daytime. Rumor is they want chicas off the street until after 10. There were also some comments about them being appropriately dressed. Whatever that means. Not the end of the world. We knew change was coming.
Overall talent was down. I've never seen it this slow, and I'm here a lot. I didn't pay over 2 k. There weren't many guys here so I took advantage.
But as I said overall a great trip. Be back soon. Peace.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2344149]One of my go to girls posted a photo of a wedding picture. Looks like she married an American, I was pounding her just 6 weeks ago. She was great in bed but by not mariage materia. L.[/QUOTE]It's ok, Old Kool. I think a guy would have to have his head examined (the big one) for mental deficiency to propose marriage and actually do it in this day and age. You are better off without her. Go back to sport fucking other luscious lovelies with the big tits, amigo.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2344134]I have caught a lot of flack for cheer leading for Sosua. The quantity and ease of Sosua is untouchable. I live on the east coast and can do a 5 day trip for 1000 buck. The flight to Rio cost almost a grand. I have the money and time to go any where in the world but Sosua is my go to spot until it breaks. I have about 10 girls who will post when ever I am in the DR. These girls give awesome GFE but I am still drawn to Sosua for the wild card girls.[/QUOTE]The mistake is in some believing that there is a 'right' or 'wrong' on this subject.
Sort of like arguing about which sex position is the 'right' one, or which is the 'best. '.
We can only report the facts we observe and what WE like.
There is no 'right' 'wrong' or 'best. '.
Only what we like and what WE like best.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2345072]We can only report the facts we observe and what WE like.
There is no 'right' 'wrong' or 'best. '.
Only what we like and what WE like best.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. But for something to be a best we have to have more things to compare it to because the word best connotes a comparison. The only reason that I like to jab at OK is because he touts something as being the best ever without having something to compare it to. Then he makes up all kinds of excuses why he will not put his best thing ever to the test by experiencing something else. If you really believe that your best is the best then don't be afraid to put it to the Pepsi challenge. If you swear that bologna is the best yet refuse to try a ribeye, then don't go touting how bologna is the best meat ever.
Gents,
Going to Sosua in August for a few days. I've never tried these online things, too lazy, I guess, and besides I prefer to see the goods before agreeing to a transaction. But reading some accounts here, it seems that the best way to avoid a hardcore mercenary is to try and build some kind of relationships with semi-pros. A few questions.
1. Badoo or Dominican Cupid?
2. Anyone seen success with Tinder?
3. Would you even bother with a (very) lousy Spanish?
I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.
If you go to Sosua you will have more on your plate then you can deal with. Most girls are not hardcore and even those hardcore girls can be tamed if handled right. You do not need any Spanish to have a great time, I have used Cupid with great success but when I was in cities other then Sosua. In Sosua it is difficult to focus on one women. Just taking a girl to dinner your attention is always on the scores f girls on the street.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2345228]Gents,
Going to Sosua in August for a few days. I've never tried these online things, too lazy, I guess, and besides I prefer to see the goods before agreeing to a transaction. But reading some accounts here, it seems that the best way to avoid a hardcore mercenary is to try and build some kind of relationships with semi-pros. A few questions.
1. Badoo or Dominican Cupid?
2. Anyone seen success with Tinder?
3. Would you even bother with a (very) lousy Spanish?
I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2345247]If you go to Sosua you will have more on your plate then you can deal with. Most girls are not hardcore and even those hardcore girls can be tamed if handled right. You do not need any Spanish to have a great time, I have used Cupid with great success but when I was in cities other then Sosua. In Sosua it is difficult to focus on one women. Just taking a girl to dinner your attention is always on the scores f girls on the street.[/QUOTE]OldKool, not just well-read, been there a few times. My experience was a bit different. Not terrible, but nothing more than a quick wham bam fuck with girls pulled from the street / Classico. Would like to try to find and focus on one girl even more so that I only have a few days.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2345247]If you go to Sosua you will have more on your plate then you can deal with. Most girls are not hardcore and even those hardcore girls can be tamed if handled right. You do not need any Spanish to have a great time, I have used Cupid with great success but when I was in cities other then Sosua. In Sosua it is difficult to focus on one women. Just taking a girl to dinner your attention is always on the scores f girls on the street.[/QUOTE]The owner of a hotel in Sosua could not have written a better advert.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2345507]The owner of a hotel in Sosua could not have written a better advert.[/QUOTE]Yes, come clean OldKool. Give us the name of the hotel / bar / restaurant / chinese laundry which you and Oakie own jointly. No-one could be that enamored of that squalid dorf unless they had a financial interest.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2345228]Gents,
1. Badoo or Dominican Cupid?
2. Anyone seen success with Tinder?
3. Would you even bother with a (very) lousy Spanish?
I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.[/QUOTE]1. I used both Badoo and Dominican Cupid in the past. DC is much better and I met several women through DC. I used also High 5 and Tagged with success.
2. Tinder is limited and women on Tinder are slow to respond.
3. Lousy Spanish is no problem as long as you have google translator on your phone. Even better if you download offline Spanish.
(I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.) Welcome to the club!! Money talks not the looks in Dominican Republic.
Hey guys,
I've been reading through this forum and another one dedicated strictly for Sosua (TMBTS). I have a question concerning the type of ladies you meet in Sosua.
From what I've gathered, it seem like the slim and curvy ladies are the more favoured ones. I'm wondering if there are women with massive boobs (like DDD and up) that are plentiful in Sosua. Below are some examples of the type of women I'm talking about.
'Miosotis Claribel' 'Kristina Milan' 'Vanessa Del'.
I'm still going regardless, but it be good to know there's good variety.
[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;2345579]1. I used both Badoo and Dominican Cupid in the past. DC is much better and I met several women through DC. I used also High 5 and Tagged with success.
2. Tinder is limited and women on Tinder are slow to respond.
3. Lousy Spanish is no problem as long as you have google translator on your phone. Even better if you download offline Spanish.
(I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.) Welcome to the club!! Money talks not the looks in Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2345548]Yes, come clean OldKool. Give us the name of the hotel / bar / restaurant / chinese laundry which you and Oakie own jointly. No-one could be that enamored of that squalid dorf unless they had a financial interest.[/QUOTE]Lol.
Speaking only for myself, the term "enamored" fits me well.
I'm enamored with tropical beaches.
The variety of beautiful young available women.
Morning dip in the pool before breakfast.
Fresh local produce daily. Mangos, bananas, avocados and freshly caught fish.
Hot coffee and ice cold beer on every corner.
Friendly bars.
Evening happy hours with like minded friends.
The local music.
Drinking beer with locals on Sunday.
Everything within a 10 minute walk. No driving or car necessary.
A 15 minute ride from a small friendly airport, three / four hours from family in Canada.
And I couldn't leave out my local GF, who shares my sense of humor, enjoys cooking, cleaning and bugging me for sex every day. (and her girlfriends).
Yeah, "enamored" is the right word for me. That's why I chose to live here after living and working in 5 countries in Europe, North America, and the Caribbean.
May you all find your own little bit of heaven, before you die! :)
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2345686]Hey guys,
I've been reading through this forum and another one dedicated strictly for Sosua (TMBTS). I have a question concerning the type of ladies you meet in Sosua.
From what I've gathered, it seem like the slim and curvy ladies are the more favoured ones. I'm wondering if there are women with massive boobs (like DDD and up) that are plentiful in Sosua. Below are some examples of the type of women I'm talking about.
'Miosotis Claribel' 'Kristina Milan' 'Vanessa Del'.
I'm still going regardless, but it be good to know there's good variety.[/QUOTE]Grand tetas and bubble butts are what Sosua does best, as long as you like the Dominicana type. Check out "Sosua Nightlife" on YouTube, and see if it fits!
I prefer slim hard flawless model type bodies, and there are enough of those to keep me busy!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2345866]Grand tetas and bubble butts are what Sosua does best, as long as you like the Dominicana type. Check out "Sosua Nightlife" on YouTube, and see if it fits!
I prefer slim hard flawless model type bodies, and there are enough of those to keep me busy![/QUOTE]Thanks man! Any specific channels on youtube to check out? "Sosua Nightlife" seems like a broad search. Better yet, any specific videos?
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2345935]Thanks man! Any specific channels on youtube to check out? "Sosua Nightlife" seems like a broad search. Better yet, any specific videos?[/QUOTE]Try it. Sosua Nightlife, Sosua Nightlife 2018.
Brings up the street, bar and beach scenes, booty pool parties, and all the body types you're likely to see.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2344149]One of my go to girls posted a photo of a wedding picture. Looks like she married an American, I was pounding her just 6 weeks ago. She was great in bed but by not mariage materia. L.[/QUOTE]You must have trained her right, jajajajaja, now all that training you provided has paid off for her.
I too have seen chicas, not in the DR as my visit was years ago but in Medellin, who I trained when they were 18 and 19 yo but now 3 and 4 years later they have very serious gringo boyfriends and husbands, every so often I am curious and check on their FB or whatsapp status, and I can't help but think about the memories of these young cuties in my apartment in Medellin as I played and pounded them for hours, I have videos and photos of many of these but will never share as I have never been the "kiss and tell" kind of guy.
I almost feel a sense of satisfaction that just maybe my training has given them the edge to conquer a gringo, so to you gringos who ended up with our playmates from days gone by, well Your Welcome!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;2345579]1. I used both Badoo and Dominican Cupid in the past. DC is much better and I met several women through DC. I used also High 5 and Tagged with success.
2. Tinder is limited and women on Tinder are slow to respond.
3. Lousy Spanish is no problem as long as you have google translator on your phone. Even better if you download offline Spanish.
(I'm not young, slim and beautiful, LOL.) Welcome to the club!! Money talks not the looks in Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]I live now in Medellin and every so often make my Latin American Cupid profile active and must say that 80% or more "likes" I get are from the women of DR.
Even though the Tall Man absolutely loves black girls I just don't respond to any of them as I concentrate on Colombian girls around Medellin which there are plenty of, and yes some black Colombian negra chica, delicious.
TTM.
Was on the main drag in Sosua for a couple weeks at the end of June. As Darkness fell, the selection of great choices rose. It seemed as though everyone was asking 3000 pesos for an hour or two of companionship but with a little negotiations 1500 pesos would always do the trick. Never pay more than you need to.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2345548]Yes, come clean OldKool. Give us the name of the hotel / bar / restaurant / chinese laundry which you and Oakie own jointly. No-one could be that enamored of that squalid dorf unless they had a financial interest.[/QUOTE]Must be mr Flipflop, who else.
Just a regular guy, The great thing about Sosua is anybody can have the time of thier life for an affordable price, Fucking women half my age is a huge turn on not mention doing it on my budget. The place hits all my buttons. Women, food and the beaches all satisfy me.
[QUOTE=Ukman57;2349609]Must be mr Flipflop, who else.[/QUOTE]
Looking for something clean, conveniently located and Chica friendly. How about a condo on AirB&b? There's a lot available.
[QUOTE=Friendlyfellow;2350072]Looking for something clean, conveniently located and Chica friendly. How about a condo on AirB&b? There's a lot available.[/QUOTE]I always rent a quality condo or villa in Sosua. My time is valuable, and I don't want to spend it in an average hotel room that would cost me as much or close to a great condo with an ocean view. I must add, though, that I usually travel with a buddy, so that helps with the expenses.
I never had a problem bringing someone in, but lately, I don't know maybe a year or 2, I've noticed a consistent trend against bringing guests. If it's not flat out ban on outside guests, then it's something like the villa I've booked for my next trip. You're supposed to bring your chica in a closed car; she's not supposed to be seen anywhere outside the villa including the porch and the PRIVATE pool, and if an issue arises with the police, they kick you out and get to keep the rent. I still booked the place because it looks great, and I still get to play, hopefully, but I don't like it one bit.
The point is, if the listing doesn't contain a specific policy, always ask the host if your desired activities aren't banned.
Now, I don't know if this shit is really enforced, but it's totally fucked up for a town, which prosperity badly depends on adult entertainment.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2353834]Hard enough to control my own bull shit.[/QUOTE]Oh so y'all just going to sit here and not say a damn thing about the chicks that Old Kool got fighting over him on the strip?
Fellow mongers,
I prefer to go to brothels and not take any girls home. I've heard the government is cracking down on the brothels. Are there still good brothels in Sosua?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2353837]Oh so y'all just going to sit here and not say a damn thing about the chicks that Old Kool got fighting over him on the strip?[/QUOTE]I have seen Chica fights in Sosua but this is the worst. That too fighting over Old Kool? No offense meant O. Kool.
[QUOTE=Jabberwock999;2354397]
I prefer to go to brothels and not take any girls home. I've heard the government is cracking down on the brothels. Are there still good brothels in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I cannot think of any since Passions and CMC closed several years ago and Elvis more recently. Come to the jewel of the North Coast, Puerto Plata, where we have Oasis and Cristal (both very expensive) and a couple of squalid places only for locals. If you do not want to take girls home, then take them to a cabana (clean, safe and reasonably priced). And if you do not want to do that, then your best option is to stay at Blackbeards.
Is your main problem really with taking the girls home, or is it with choosing and negotiating with free-lance chicas? Because they are different issues. Sosua has always been best known for its variety of free-lance chicas (very few of them are controlled by pimps) and most of us prefer that our money all goes to the girls rather than 40% (say) to pimps.
Otherwise go to Santo Domingo instead. There are brothels there.
[QUOTE=Jabberwock999;2354397]Fellow mongers,
I prefer to go to brothels and not take any girls home. I've heard the government is cracking down on the brothels. Are there still good brothels in Sosua?[/QUOTE]If you go to Sosua, you are already in one of the worlds biggest and best brothels.
Hundreds of girls to choose from, and cheap rooms by the hour right next door to the local bars!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2357989]Today picked a Haitian, cute, nice legs and tits (before the bra fell on the floor). I've had decent sessions with Haitians before, but still told her I'm buying 2 hours of her time and got her agree on shooting in her mouth. I was in a mood to have a couple of drinks and have some quality time in the pool. That didn't last.
First, no, she won't go into the pool.[/QUOTE]I don't know why you guys keep trying to get chicks with fake or processed hair to go into water. You gotta get a natural hair chick for that.
It's getting better and better. Got robbed at the Merengue. I'm almost sure it was a tall ugly hooker that tried to chat me up, then left abruptly. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. About 2 K Pesos, a passport card and a Schwab's debit card I've already canceled that hasn't been used. I had it in my shorts, in a Velcro pocket next to my villa keys that weren't taken, thanks god. Well, fair enough, I've been to some dodgy places and never had a problem, so it was bound to happen sooner or later, but it surely killed the mood.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2358365]It's getting better and better. Got robbed at the Merengue. I'm almost sure it was a tall ugly hooker that tried to chat me up, then left abruptly. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. About 2 K Pesos, a passport card and a Schwab's debit card I've already canceled that hasn't been used. I had it in my shorts, in a Velcro pocket next to my villa keys that weren't taken, thanks god. Well, fair enough, I've been to some dodgy places and never had a problem, so it was bound to happen sooner or later, but it surely killed the mood.[/QUOTE]A bummer!
But at least you observed the first rule of mongering here, never carry more cash than you need for the evening, especially on the main strip, so you limited your loss.
But getting ripped off is bound to leave a bad taste in your mouth, and it's not just about the money.
That, together with your recent bad experiences with a few chicas reported here, I wouldn't expect Sosua to be on your future planning schedule, anytime soon.
But thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2358365]It's getting better and better. Got robbed at the Merengue. I'm almost sure it was a tall ugly hooker that tried to chat me up, then left abruptly. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. About 2 K Pesos, a passport card and a Schwab's debit card I've already canceled that hasn't been used. I had it in my shorts, in a Velcro pocket next to my villa keys that weren't taken, thanks god. Well, fair enough, I've been to some dodgy places and never had a problem, so it was bound to happen sooner or later, but it surely killed the mood.[/QUOTE]Never keep money in pant pockets. I always keep money in my shirt pocket in a crowded bar. I got robbed few years ago dancing with a pretty girl. Obviously her friend who was dancing nearby who took 1000 pesos. One trusted girl who stayed with me before took a cheap cell phone when I left it on the table. I did not realize till she left in the morning. Later I called her but she denied taking.
So always lock everything up in safe deposit box moment you come to the room. Take only local pesos you need for food and entertainment.
Trust is a hard word in our hobby.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2358365]It's getting better and better. Got robbed at the Merengue. I'm almost sure it was a tall ugly hooker that tried to chat me up, then left abruptly. Nothing I couldn't afford to lose. About 2 K Pesos, a passport card and a Schwab's debit card I've already canceled that hasn't been used. I had it in my shorts, in a Velcro pocket next to my villa keys that weren't taken, thanks god. Well, fair enough, I've been to some dodgy places and never had a problem, so it was bound to happen sooner or later, but it surely killed the mood.[/QUOTE]Why carry those cards in the 1st place if you don't need them? Inside Merengue and especially just out side on the street (really just about anywhere), pickpockets are always present waiting to catch their prey.
The idea isn't to stroll out the door with the mindset of being willing to accept what you can afford to lose. A better mindset is not to bring things that you don't intend to use where you are going. You can't assume you can trust people just because they interact with you, and smile in your face. I have learned through the years living abroad, is that its risky assuming a friendly smile and inviting conversation is cause to be at ease and not be aware of a potential scam or ulterior motivation behind someone's sudden interest (The short and the long game). My way is to give individuals zero credibility. Prepare for the worst in people, but be flexible enough to embrace the good when it is genuine.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2358736]Inside Merengue and especially just out side on the street (really just about anywhere), pickpockets are always present waiting to catch their prey. You can't assume you can trust people just because they interact with you, and smile in your face.[/QUOTE]Or rub their booty on you. I always say to keep them hoes at an arm's length!
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I just did a 7 day stint in Sosua.
Highlights:
1) It was very very hot and it rarely rained. I never went out during.
The time when the sun was high up in the sky. I also never walked the.
Center because of the fact that I did not need to go to my usual.
Restaurant at new Garden. On one occasion, in fact the last night, I.
Made a point to drive through the center but it was a sad spectacle. I.
Think the Austrian Schintzel place has closed. There were hardly any.
Women around and I was witness to the police (a woman cop at that).
Chasing a woman. Who ran and took shelter in a colmado but the police.
Came with big gun - 8/9 of them, big truck to chase a puny woman who.
Looked hungry.
2) Perhaps this is the low season but I found the place is slowly losing.
Its character. Construction boom, some one is investing speaking of.
Which, I heard the Chinese are putting in money. Indeed the mountain.
Road to Santiago that I did is much improved and it would be a lot.
Better when in the next 2-3 years it gets completed.
3) The exchange rate at Caribe express was 51.20 for the US dollar.
4) I found a very good Italian restaurant in Cabarete. Called Cabarete.
Beach restaurant, the food is excellent, it also has a great location.
With a pool on one side and the sea right the other. It takes about 15.
Minutes driving out of Sosua and is part of some VIVA thing, located.
Before the main drag and traffic light of Cabarete.
5. I never picked a woman out on the street. They all came to me and.
Never paid more than 1800, starting from a 1200, but I did have various.
Gifts, especially food and I never had them overnight. Most women washed.
The dishes and left the bed re-made but I had to ask. In short I had.
Very little to complain about except the punctuality but we cannot have.
It all. As time rolls on, I find it hard to produce enough bodily fluid.
To manage 2 women each day on a regular basis. What a sad state of.
Affairs. Famine when away and fiesta while on the island.
Finally, I had commented on someone's asking me about Sosua and I.
Thought it might be worthwhile repeating my thoughts especially when I.
See men calling women by the B/ H- word and wondering why service is so.
Sketchy.
A) Sosua is small and hence the concept of 3/4/5 star is moot. Airbnb -.
I do not do as there might be restrictions. For a very decent hotel, I.
Strongly recommend Hotel Casa Valeria, run by the Dutch; also New Garden.
Which is right next door but the new wing, run by an Italian. I have.
Not stayed at New Garden but at Casa Valeria, and I can strongly.
Recommend it, in terms of quality, proximity and guest friendliness.
B) I have been going there for quite a while and so one picks up people.
And some leave and some are added over time. Reason why I do not look.
For anyone on the street. I have primarily used Badoo, and Facebook -.
The second takes quite a bit of time as it targets regular people.
Compared to the first site which have the target population. I also use.
My present connection to introduce me to others.
As you can see, there is no magic but dedicated time; I speak the.
Language which helps but one has the advantage of Google translate these.
Days.
C) Speaking of how much, curious that you wish to stay in a "4 star".
Place but not pay more than 2000 pesos to a woman? My personal method is.
Not to flaunt a fancy hotel to people you do not want to pay more than.
2000 (they expect more just by the look of the place you stay in). Also.
Some women may be worth more if they are giving you the time and.
Attention, so my suggestion is not to get swayed by the magic of a.
Number. Of course, this logic may or may not fly with the street walkers.
- key reason why I avoid them, as well as anyone who speaks English.
Clear sign that the merchandise is well used.
D) As for women, it is predominantly black in various shades plus some.
White. The thing is that my "great girl" may be just a "meh" for others.
And as such no point comparing.
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[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2347549]
I almost feel a sense of satisfaction that just maybe my training has given them the edge to conquer a gringo, so to you gringos who ended up with our playmates from days gone by, well Your Welcome!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a conversation I had with local family members, while drinking beer in Charamicos one Sunday.
I asked a couple of the local young guys, how they felt about old gringos fucking all their beautiful young chicas.
They laughed and said, that by the time you guys get to them, we have already had them and gave them their kids, and you get them when we're done with them!
They start very young down here, so if it is you that is "training them" you could be in trouble with the law, LOL.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2358445]One trusted girl who stayed with me before took a cheap cell phone when I left it on the table ... later I called her but she denied taking.
[/QUOTE]Did you call her on the number of the phone she stole, and did she still deny taking it
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2358927]Did you call her on the number of the phone she stole, and did she still deny taking it[/QUOTE]I once gave some money to a chica who called me later and said she had been robbed.
She wanted me to pay her again!
I said, isn't it lucky they didn't steal your Iphone too?
Lol
Reports on here get repetitive over time, so I applaud Tempoecorto's initiative in posting his report as a poem. But frankly it is not very good. Does not even rhyme.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2358830]I was witness to the police (a woman cop at that). Chasing a woman. Who ran and took shelter in a colmado but the police. Came with big gun - 8/9 of them, big truck to chase a puny woman who. Looked hungry.[/QUOTE]Maybe that puny woman who looked hungry has been on a wanted list for doing heinous crimes. Always trips me out watching videos on the internet when police are trying to arrest someone and the peanut gallery is harassing the police for doing their job. You do not know what the situation was before you came up on it.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2358830]Perhaps this is the low season but I found the place is slowly losing. Its character.[/QUOTE]The place lost its character long ago, but posters who previously brought this to the forefront were always ridiculed by a couple of diehards. Is it now your turn to be ridiculed?
When you have been going th DF for many years you have sean almost everything. Sosua has few surprises but it is still a fantacy for us older guys. Getting 20 year old pussy when you are 50/60 is th fountain of youth. Vets have their own harem of go to girls who have been vetted and give great service.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2359018]Reports on here get repetitive over time, so I applaud Tempoecorto's initiative in posting his report as a poem. But frankly it is not very good. Does not even rhyme.[/QUOTE]No limericks yet, still "Reason why I do not look: used Badoo, and Facebook".
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2358830]I just did a 7 day stint in Sosua.
Highlights:
1) It was very very hot and it rarely rained. I never went out during.
The time when the sun was high up in the sky. I also never walked the.
Center because of the fact that I did not need to go to my usual.
Restaurant at new Garden. On one occasion, in fact the last night, I.
Made a point to drive through the center but it was a sad spectacle. I.
Think the Austrian Schintzel place has closed. There were hardly any.
Women around .....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.
Around this time of year we always get a lot of gripes about the lack of action in Sosua.
Summer doldrums in August with the stifling heat. The beaches are burning. Even I took a short break back home.
Some restaurants close up for the season, not to reopen until after the hurricane season, and the number of tourists and hookers falls off sharply. But it's not permanent.
It all starts up again in November, and the complaints change to overbooking at hotels, noisy rooms and chicas who won't take less than $100.
That said, if you can stand the heat, hotels and chicas tend to be cheaper, as they compete for your business.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2359025]Maybe that puny woman who looked hungry has been on a wanted list for doing heinous crimes. Always trips me out watching videos on the internet when police are trying to arrest someone and the peanut gallery is harassing the police for doing their job. You do not know what the situation was before you came up on it.
The place lost its character long ago, but posters who previously brought this to the forefront were always ridiculed by a couple of diehards. Is it now your turn to be ridiculed?[/QUOTE]A) I am pleased to note that you are a "Law and Order" person. I am not, more so in the wake of "Black lives matter" but as the Editor here reminds us, this is no place to talk about such irrelevant thing. I just gave my impression and have no interest in what the gossip says.
B) I do not do regression analysis. I just stated what I saw, and so what if I am ridiculed? Perhaps as Oakie says, it is summer and the heat which explain lack of a lively evening or it is the big "finance" lobby, who have been silently investing and getting the place cleaned up, to get a better return but all that is mere speculation and I do not care about doing that.
By the way, apologies to you all, for having even tried reading that ridiculously formatted script of mine. I just did my usual cut and paste and the code magicians produced that paw-paw.
First time in the DR. Plenty of options on the streets, hanging around the disco club, saw a chick near new garden where there were less people and we were negotiating a price. She started to grab the crotch and twirling around for me to see. And I decided to go for it. Took her to the crib, she took a shower by herself and didn't let me in. Started off with a CBJ, made sure to show the kids some love as well. Then she turned around for some RCG but I smelled something funky. It wasn't too bad but there was a small stench. Pounded away and blasted in the raincoat.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2359432]A) I am pleased to note that you are a "Law and Order" person. I am not, more so in the wake of "Black lives matter" but as the Editor here reminds us, this is no place to talk about such irrelevant thing. I just gave my impression and have no interest in what the gossip says.
B) I do not do regression analysis. I just stated what I saw, and so what if I am ridiculed? Perhaps as Oakie says, it is summer and the heat which explain lack of a lively evening or it is the big "finance" lobby, who have been silently investing and getting the place cleaned up, to get a better return but all that is mere speculation and I do not care about doing that.
By the way, apologies to you all, for having even tried reading that ridiculously formatted script of mine. I just did my usual cut and paste and the code magicians produced that paw-paw.[/QUOTE]No biggie, Tempo, it's obviously a "one off" from a long time poster.
But they should fix that automatic text correction, that can make a post nonsensical, and eats up editing time.
A Report from the ground is worth a hundred opinions, rumors, and third hand "intel" from lurkers in the "peanut gallery"!
I'm betting your Austrian Schnitzel place will be open by December, along with some others that invariably get a name change during slow season.
Too Buku dinky dow Joe!
Hehehe.
[QUOTE=Topelite;2359442] Took her to the crib, she took a shower by herself and didn't let me in. Started off with a CBJ, made sure to show the kids some love as well. Then she turned around for some RCG but I smelled something funky. It wasn't too bad but there was a small stench. Pounded away and blasted in the raincoat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2358736]Why carry those cards in the 1st place if you don't need them? Inside Merengue and especially just out side on the street (really just about anywhere), pickpockets are always present waiting to catch their prey.
The idea isn't to stroll out the door with the mindset of being willing to accept what you can afford to lose. A better mindset is not to bring things that you don't intend to use where you are going. You can't assume you can trust people just because they interact with you, and smile in your face. I have learned through the years living abroad, is that its risky assuming a friendly smile and inviting conversation is cause to be at ease and not be aware of a potential scam or ulterior motivation behind someone's sudden interest (The short and the long game). My way is to give individuals zero credibility. Prepare for the worst in people, but be flexible enough to embrace the good when it is genuine.[/QUOTE]You're right about zero credibility. A "rich" American tourist is always a target, and I know that, however:
We went to eat first. I didn't know where we would be eating, so brought one card and a little cash, just in case.
The passport card. I always carry it on me when abroad. It's better to lose that than an actual passport. Maybe you're right, and it's not necessary in Sosua, I don't know.
Cash? It was less than $40. I don't know, you need to have some money on you, I guess.
I don't know. Everyone has their own security method. I always carry a wallet in my pants though, after my childhood buddy who later became a semi-career criminal showed me how they casually "beat" the wallet out of a jacket. I presume the same method would work on a shirt pocket, too.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359860]You're right about zero credibility. A "rich" American tourist is always a target, and I know that, however:
We went to eat first. I didn't know where we would be eating, so brought one card and a little cash, just in case.
The passport card. I always carry it on me when abroad. It's better to lose that than an actual passport. Maybe you're right, and it's not necessary in Sosua, I don't know.
Cash? It was less than $40. I don't know, you need to have some money on you, I guess.
I don't know. Everyone has their own security method. I always carry a wallet in my pants though, after my childhood buddy who later became a semi-career criminal showed me how they casually "beat" the wallet out of a jacket. I presume the same method would work on a shirt pocket, too.[/QUOTE]I have had a couple of week moments, but for that reason, I don't carry much $$ on the street. I usually where a pair of thin gym shorts underneath my pants to put money in, it has done the trick. But I forgot to do this a couple of years ago in Santo Domingo, lost some cash. Some chicas, and others, are real sneaky!
OK, so my 5-day Sosua break is behind me now. Here are a few observations you might find useful. My apologies for my writing style. There are very talented writers here who know how to describe sexual encounters in a way that gets you hard. I don't know how to do that. To me it's simply like I came, I cummed, I paid. Boring.
ARRIVAL.
Got into the VIP Arrival Lounge. Didn't see it there last year, is it new or did I not notice before? In any case, we got in with my Priority Pass card, had a couple of beers, coffee, and a sorry-ass sandwich, but the kicker is this. When we were ready, the attendant grabbed our bags, got us through the immigration, then through the customs, and let me tell you, that line that was huge and CRAWLING, and through the exit into the parking lot. We tipped him about $10, and that was $10 well-spent, LOL. We were the only people there, so I guess this thing hasn't caught on yet.
For those of you, guys, who don't know, you can buy a Priority Pass, but it also comes with some premium credit cards and gives you free access to over 1,000 airport lounges all over the world, but I've never encountered this "fast track" service.
We didn't check bags, but if you do, you can grab a couple of free beers or some more serious stuff while they get your luggage, and then they'll whisk you through. Nice!
LODGING.
We booked a pool villa in Hispaniola Residencial for $100 a night, and it was fantastic! I had some serious reservations about their weird chica policy, but it turned out to be all bullshit (thank you Oakie for putting my mind at ease).
FOOD.
Loved the restaurant at Hisponiola! The food was great, the ambiance – even better, and there was a wonderful Flamenco show. Truly, an enjoyable night and a perfect place for a classy dinner with a real date.
Other than that, we ate at Waterfront (Alicia Beach), the sports restaurant with huge screens across from the Bourbon Street, and a German restaurant, which name escapes me. The food was fine everywhere.
CHICAS.
The heat was intense. The town was half-empty. Most Pedro Gisante chicas were undoable.
I already wrote about my bad experiences (actually was so pissed off that even posted in the wrong section (Sosua Hotels). To recap:
Day 1. Sunday. Pulled a chica from Classico. Got to the room, started fucking. 10 minutes into the deed, come dreadful fake moans, then oh papi, then tu leche and shit. I knew where it was going so I told her to shut the fuck up in English and quite rudely, actually. To my surprise, she did. I somehow managed to bust a nut and kicked her out without further ado. She seemed quite perplexed, but fuck it. Not a total loss.
Day 2. Got mild food poisoning. Stayed at the villa.
Day 3. Pulled a Haitian girl off the street. Passed an interview with flying colors. Nice, friendly, soft-spoken, the only thing I didn't like was she had no phone. You can read what happened in the report I mistakenly posted in Sosua Hotels.
Day 4. Got my wallet picked at the Merengue. Rushed to the villa to report it and cancel the card, briefly thought about making it back, then called it the night, the mood wasn't there.
Day 5. Pulled a non-pro from a beach bar, and that was a highlight of my whole trip. She was well in her 30-s, but still had a killer ass and legs. While most of you, guys, wouldn't be interested in that age group, gee, what a difference she made! We had a few drinks, got in the pool, fooled around, talked, laughed, had more drinks, there was no rush and no discussion of time or money. Also no monster sex, but total GF experience, nice, tender, yet intense. Spent about 4 hours together before she went back to her 4 kids. Gave her 3 K (but she paid for a cab both ways) and a couple of gifts, which she appreciated.
Classico was packed on Sunday but dead afterwards, as was City Lights, but I've never gotten there after 1 AM. Merengue was hopping.
CONCLUSION.
I'm not a Sosua basher. I came to Sosua for the first time 20 years ago and hated it. But after being there probably about dozen of times since then, it kinda grown on me. The obvious advantages are:
1. Just a 3-hour flight from New York.
2. 2 great beaches with clear and wonderful, Caribbean-quality water.
3. Cheap international restaurants.
4. Cheap and nicely developed upscale vacation ownership market (I'm baffled why so many of you guys are still staying at hotels).
And yet, I have never experienced so many terrible encounters as I have in Sosua. I've mongered all over the world except Africa and the Pacific, and never met a hooker who was trying to get out of the deal BEFORE I would bust my nut. Only in Sosua. It's insane and not an isolated experience.
That's a shame, really, because Sosua looks so promising. Could be a little Pattaya, only with a clean beach, if it weren't for the work "ethics" of these stupid, lazy and lying working girls.
I don't mean you can't find a diamond in the rough, as I have, occasionally, but who needs the stress? The only way to truly enjoy it, IMHO, is to grow your own semi-pro list and ignore Pedro Gisante.
This is not a point-and-click town for newbies, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871]OK, so my 5-day Sosua break is behind me now. Here are a few observations you might find useful. My apologies for my writing style. There are very talented writers here who know how to describe sexual encounters in a way that gets you hard.[/QUOTE]Great report and great writing style. I do not read ISG to get my dick hard. I read ISG to get information that I can use. You did an excellent job of that in your reports. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871].....I have never experienced so many terrible encounters as I have in Sosua. I've mongered all over the world except Africa and the Pacific, and never met a hooker who was trying to get out of the deal BEFORE I would bust my nut. Only in Sosua. It's insane and not an isolated experience.
That's a shame, really, because Sosua looks so promising. Could be a little Pattaya, only with a clean beach, if it weren't for the work "ethics" of these stupid, lazy and lying working girls.[/QUOTE]Great report XP!
Too bad you had to hit it at the worst time of the year. Like the harvest, the freshest fruit is when it is in season.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871]I don't mean you can't find a diamond in the rough, as I have, occasionally, but who needs the stress? The only way to truly enjoy it, IMHO, is to grow your own semi-pro list and ignore Pedro Gisante.....[/QUOTE]Bingo! That's the way I roll, and it works well for me. I don't go downtown very often, and certainly not for my pussy, but if you are rarely there, it's nigh on impossible to develop those onging local relationships.
Good luck in the future!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871]OK, so my 5-day Sosua break is behind me now. Here are a few observations you might find useful. My apologies for my writing style. There are very talented writers here who know how to describe sexual encounters in a way that gets you hard. I don't know how to do that. To me it's simply like I came, I cummed, I paid. Boring.
And yet, I have never experienced so many terrible encounters as I have in Sosua. I've mongered all over the world except Africa and the Pacific, and never met a hooker who was trying to get out of the deal BEFORE I would bust my nut. Only in Sosua. It's insane and not an isolated experience.
That's a shame, really, because Sosua looks so promising. Could be a little Pattaya, only with a clean beach, if it weren't for the work "ethics" of these stupid, lazy and lying working girls.
I don't mean you can't find a diamond in the rough, as I have, occasionally, but who needs the stress? The only way to truly enjoy it, IMHO, is to grow your own semi-pro list and ignore Pedro Gisante.
This is not a point-and-click town for newbies, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Interesting read for me as I visited the sue once about 3 years ago and now it is officially marked off my bucket list of mongering spots I must visit.
I recall my observations and experiences, while not as hard core chicas that you encountered, the end result is the same. I am probably spoiled by the passionate cuties that I have at my finger tips here in Medellin so I have no reason to return to the Sue.
You don't state your race but I must say that the brothers love the Sue. I was almost the only white gringo in my hotel but must say that the brothers were all fun and welcoming to me. My point is that the brothers partied with a large number of their fellow bros (black guys) and I must admit this is why they enjoy the Sue so much as it is just as much of bro time with a splash of chicas in the mix that make their stay so much fun.
Good review and thanks for posting.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871] I don't mean you can't find a diamond in the rough, as I have, occasionally, but who needs the stress? The only way to truly enjoy it, IMHO, is to grow your own semi-pro list and ignore Pedro Gisante.
This is not a point-and-click town for newbies, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Good write up and writing style. I think you have also come to the right conclusion in your final lines. The point though is that there is no way in Himmel that all would have the time or inclination to do that and therefore there will always be suckers. There are in all the other parts of the world, whether Asia or Europe or elsewhere. Not getting drunk and being able to converse a little helps, however each to his own. Some may not ever come back and enjoy Rio or Medellin more.
For me, being lazy, I like my short flight, love the food, the proximity of a small town and especially the solitude when I want it, reason why I travel solo. As far as women are concerned, even without being a permanent resident, and without deluding anyone that I am looking for a girlfriend, they work for me. The women are pragmatic, they will take the today, without worrying about long term, if they are treated with normal human kindness, as many here would vouch for.
I love the Sue for the chicas but the fellowship with the bros is big as well. I have not pulled many bad apples. I love the surprise of new pussy. There are always new girls looking to get gringo dollars. When groomed properly you can have a great time. Many of the girls on my go to list were girls I hooked up with as one timers but after great service they became keepers. Low season has more of the hardcore girls then high season. Hardcore girls never leave the sua. I have been going to the sue for 8 years and many the same hard core girls are still on the street. They are desperate and a little dangerous.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2360042]Interesting read for me as I visited the sue once about 3 years ago and now it is officially marked off my bucket list of mongering spots I must visit.
I recall my observations and experiences, while not as hard core chicas that you encountered, the end result is the same. I am probably spoiled by the passionate cuties that I have at my finger tips here in Medellin so I have no reason to return to the Sue.
You don't state your race but I must say that the brothers love the Sue. I was almost the only white gringo in my hotel but must say that the brothers were all fun and welcoming to me. My point is that the brothers partied with a large number of their fellow bros (black guys) and I must admit this is why they enjoy the Sue so much as it is just as much of bro time with a splash of chicas in the mix that make their stay so much fun.
Good review and thanks for posting.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2360541]I love the Sue for the chicas but the fellowship with the bros is big as well. I have not pulled many bad apples. I love the surprise of new pussy. There are always new girls looking to get gringo dollars. When groomed properly you can have a great time. Many of the girls on my go to list were girls I hooked up with as one timers but after great service they became keepers. Low season has more of the hardcore girls then high season. Hardcore girls never leave the sua. I have been going to the sue for 8 years and many the same hard core girls are still on the street. They are desperate and a little dangerous.[/QUOTE]Frankly, I had more fun drinking and hanging out with the brothers on the beach than I did in my hotel room. Sure I got laid by some nice ones but the Sosua chicks are too aggressive for me. Prefer tranquilo man.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359871]
CHICAS.
Most Pedro Gisante chicas were undoable.
This is not a point-and-click town for newbies, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Good report. The demise has already been well chronicled so I won't get into it. The DR overall is still a great place to vacation.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2359860]You're right about zero credibility. A "rich" American tourist is always a target, and I know that, however:
We went to eat first. I didn't know where we would be eating, so brought one card and a little cash, just in case.
The passport card. I always carry it on me when abroad. It's better to lose that than an actual passport. Maybe you're right, and it's not necessary in Sosua, I don't know.
Cash? It was less than $40. I don't know, you need to have some money on you, I guess.
I don't know. Everyone has their own security method. I always carry a wallet in my pants though, after my childhood buddy who later became a semi-career criminal showed me how they casually "beat" the wallet out of a jacket. I presume the same method would work on a shirt pocket, too.[/QUOTE]Of course you brought the debit card for just in case you needed money while out. That was common sense that you were taught from where you are from. Same as me. But look what happened to it? It got stolen. So now how would you get money from THAT card, if you actually needed money from the ATM? Especially it being a Charles Schwab fee less card. How did that work out for you? Not good, right? Your common sense approach is understood, but it did not help.
What would travel wisdom do? Travel wisdom would have went to the ATM way before there was a need to go out. Travel wisdom would have got the money, and took the card back to a secure place (safe).. As for your passport card, there are several places in Sosua that can make a color laminated copy of any document you have. And shrink it down to credit card size, if you need. I have several color laminated copies of my USA DL, My USA passport (1st and 2nd page same size of my passport and a wallet size version like a passport card). Ive done the same in the Philippines with that DL, ACR-I card etc.
I drive my car in the DR with my USA DL copy. If stopped, I show them my DL copy. When I buy stuff in the DR and they ask for ID, I show them my DL copy. When I get money for exchange from Caribe Express, I use my passport copy. That is enough for them. In the DR copies of documents are widely accepted. So let's change your scenario. You go to the ATM way before you need to go out, and get enough money for the day / night. You put the card back in your safe. You have your laminated copy of your passport card or passport full size copy. Now you go out and get pickpocketed. You still have your original documents locked up, and all they got was some money, and your laminated copies of stuff you have back ups of. No need to cancel a debit card they never got. You still have the card to get more money.
What I'm saying to you is something many guys can do to minimize their risk of losing shit to foul play. Nothing can be done for a guy that takes unnecessary risk, or is too lazy or tired to lock his stuff up.
Now where to go for the laminated copies? I like the Computer Copy center that is located in a business behind Baileys restaurant. They do a good job and the copies are cheap. You can get several copies of your documents laminated in color and it might be less than 250 pesos for the whole job (always ask the price). I would recommend getting at least 4 copies of each.
In DR,
No need to carry copy of passport. If you are arrested for any reason you tell them the hotel name and they will get the passport. No need to carry credit card and in fact wallet. Carry only local pesos for expenses like food, drinks. No need to carry drivers license. If stopped just show car rental papers which has all info.
Never pay money money to the chicas before the act. Lock everything in the room safe. Always negotiate compensation to avoid unpleasant surprises.
I just returned home after 11 days in So- sewer and the trip was not great.
Yes there was available pussy but most was beat up looking and the same 200 girls are on the street every night.
The scene changes on Friday and Saturdays as some additional hot girls go to Classicos VIP lounge but they are looking for 5000 pesos.
Some observations:
75 % of the working girls are Haitian.
70% of the tourists are Afro American.
Police patrols on Pedro Casante are non stop from 9 pm till 1 am. The girls cannot walk the streets unless they are accompanied by a tourist.
The chicas have become very business orientated and service was poor with average price being between 2000 -3000 pesos.
I would budget 5000 pesos per day for food drink and Chica. This did not include my hotel. Sosua is no longer a cheap vacation destination.
I wasn't sure the exchange places would be OK with the copies. And surely, taking my Schwab to Merengue was a mistake and totally unnecessary. Good point, lesson learned.
I have to disagree about one point, though.
You can negotiate all you want, but it does NOT guarantee zilch.
Unfortunately, chicas feel like they have an upper hand. Whereas I would (and did) stand my ground in Brazil, Thailand, or Colombia, for example, I've read enough reports of chicas threatening AND CALIING the cops in Sosua to know that there is little you can do. If a chica demands money beforehand and threatens to call cops, I'll pay and kick her out. I won't risk spending a night at a police station in a country where I have communication skills of a 3-year old, whereas they'll probably make me pay anyway or worse. So it sounds great in theory (and you absolutely should negotiate everything), but it guaranties nothing.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2361005]In DR,
[b]No need to carry copy of passport.[/b] If you are arrested for any reason you tell them the hotel name and they will get the passport. No need to carry credit card and in fact wallet. Carry only local pesos for expenses like food, drinks. No need to carry drivers license. If stopped just show car rental papers which has all info.
Never pay money money to the chicas before the act. Lock everything in the room safe. Always negotiate compensation to avoid unpleasant surprises.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't advocate saying there is no need to carry a copy of your passport. There are always exceptions and caveats. Suppose a person is going somewhere that requires at least a copy of a passport for some form of transaction? Suppose the reason you are getting arrested is because law enforcement can't identify you, because you don't have a copy of your passport on you? If the difference from being arrested and being free to go depends on having some form of ID, it would be better to have the copy of your passport. Who wants to go to jail and have to go through how long it may take to get your passport? And hope you don't have things stolen out of your safe.
With the CC and debit card? At some point a person may have to carry a debit card in order to use it at an ATM. A CC may be used to buy big ticket items, like furniture etc. More accurately, there is no need to carry those things if you have no intention of using them, and / or especially to places where you increase the risk of losing them due to theft. But you can't say there is no need to carry them. Because that simply is not true. Men have been coming and living in the DR for years, and have had to carry their cards at some point in order to put them to use.
As for not carrying a DL? Yes, if a person is not driving. But since you mentioned car rental papers, I can assume you are talking about a person who IS driving. There is no guarantee that car rental papers alone will be sufficient if stopped by law enforcement (AMET). Not to mention not every foreigner driving in the DR is driving a rental. Suppose the foreigner owns the car? In the DR application and enforcement of laws can vary from one AMET officer to another. And being a foreigner, not having a DL on hand might make it easier for an officer to fleece you or simply fine you. If it's not a rental, there won't be any rental papers. And if you rent from a fly by night company, there may not be much info on the rental agreement to satisfy who stopped you. Worse, is if you get into an accident, not just because you got stopped. Not having a DL on your person (when driving) and relying on rental or ownership documents is not a good look.
A foreigner should have at least a copy of their foreign DL (I recommend having the original) on them when they drive.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361091]I wasn't sure the exchange places would be OK with the copies. And surely, taking my Schwab to Merengue was a mistake and totally unnecessary. Good point, lesson learned.
[/QUOTE]Thats why were here on this forum. That would have been a good question to ask here. And while in the DR, you could strike up a convo with somebody and they might have been able to help you too. Plus you could conduct your own experiment. Make the copies as suggested, and go to exchange money at different places and see what happens. I know from personal experience Caribe Express where Supa Pola is, has no problem when I present my laminated copy of my passport. I like to present the actual size copy rather than the shrunk down copy.
Moreover, the exchange guy in the back of the plaza where the Altice cellular store is, you don't need any documents at all. Just the money. A little side tip. I don't know about all places, but this same exchange guy will cash a personal check if you present your original passport. Now the rate is not as good as exchanging cash, but the benefit is being able to get your hands on some money in an emergency. I found this out on a visit several yrs ago, seeing a guy get money using a personal check and his foreign passport. Much later, I did the same thing. Brought a personal check for 1500 USD, and my original passport. The exchange rate might have been a few points lower than the cash rate, but the main thing is, it was another option.
Mind you, that was 3 or 4 yrs ago. So I don't exactly know if their policy about personal checks has changed.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361091]You can negotiate all you want, but it does NOT guarantee zilch.
[/QUOTE]It has been proven time and time again, that negotiating beforehand does not necessarily mean you WILL avoid unpleasant surprises. Even if one is successful in negotiating beforehand, a dude can still have unpleasant surprises dealing with enough of these DR chicas. Like the type of performance the chica puts out, or lack thereof. You get whatever the chica offers. Or a chica agreeing to a price or specific services just to get a guy to hire them, and then flipping the script. One may be successful minimizing having unpleasant surprises by negotiating beforehand, but that is on a case by case basis. There are many cases where that approach has failed. And Sosua's reputation for the frequency of all the BS with the chicas is getting worse.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361091]If a chica demands money beforehand and threatens to call cops, I'll pay and kick her out. I won't risk spending a night at a police station in a country where I have communication skills of a 3-year old, whereas they'll probably make me pay anyway or worse.[/QUOTE]And that is exactly how it became a hustle. Too many mongers rolling over and giving in. Sometimes not being able to communicate can be used to your advantage! You need to learn when to call someone's bluff.
In a case that you are describing the only word you need to know is embajada. I am sure you have seen shows where a person gets taken in by police and the only word the person will say if they are smart is lawyer. Well, if the police come to you in DR, all you need to say is embajada.
Of all the hookers on this planet that have threatened to call the cops on me, the only one that actually did it was in Sosua and that did not work out well for her. As many Dominican cops (at least 20) have pulled me over trying to get money from me, I have given exactly 0 pesos to date and have never been ticketed or taken to jail.
Don't just sit around and allow yourself to be extorted if you know you have done nothing wrong. Hustlers are depending on you to be scared. That is the only way the hustle will work. Scared money can't win.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361204]And that is exactly how it became a hustle. Too many mongers rolling over and giving in. Sometimes not being able to communicate can be used to your advantage! You need to learn when to call someone's bluff.
In a case that you are describing the only word you need to know is embajada. I am sure you have seen shows where a person gets taken in by police and the only word the person will say if they are smart is lawyer. Well, if the police come to you in DR, all you need to say is embajada.
Of all the hookers on this planet that have threatened to call the cops on me, the only one that actually did it was in Sosua and that did not work out well for her. As many Dominican cops (at least 20) have pulled me over trying to get money from me, I have given exactly 0 pesos to date and have never been ticketed or taken to jail.
Don't just sit around and allow yourself to be extorted if you know you have done nothing wrong. Hustlers are depending on you to be scared. That is the only way the hustle will work. Scared money can't win.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. E, kudos for not letting anyone step over you. Respecto!
But let's think about it some more.
Let's say she does call the cops in the middle of the night. Then what happens?
A lawyer? Fine. Will he cost me less than 2 K Pesos?
What if she cries [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]? What if she's in cahoots with the cops (takes just one bad cop to run an extortion scam on a gringo)?
But let's say things work out great, and the cops laugh at the stupid ***** and leave. The condo I was staying at has an eviction clause if the cops are called for any reason. I can't blame them, really.
You can counter that I can stay at a hotel instead. But I don't want to. I love to spread out, LOL.
I mean, you can stick to your principles, but it's $40 we're talking about. I'm on a 5-day outing, do I really need the aggravation?
This is strictly theoretical, of course. No one has tried to get me pay upfront in Sosua yet, but dreadful service. Sure.
Once in Rio, a GDP demands to be paid right after she got to my apartment. I say no. She insists. I say, I'll put the money on the table, and you get it after we're done. She says no, give me the cash now. I say go to hell. She threatens to call the cops. I say here, use my phone.
She says OK, let's fuck. I say no, you've broken my Junior. That cracked her up. Surprisingly, we had a good session afterwards.
In Pattaya, a girl promises 2 hours with 2 shots, tries to leave after 40 minutes. I give her 50%. She starts crying and cursing, I kick her out, she keeps banging on the door. I call security. The end.
My RTFF tells me things are different in Sosua. Like you yourself said, Sosua is the only place in the world it's happened to you.
Mr E s 20 encounters with police is not something to be proud of. I have been going to DR for 9 years and zero police encounters. I have seen a few people get fucked up because their balls were bigger then their brains. Corrupt people with gun can be dangerous and not to be played. A smart ass tourist makes great target. Never forget you are in some one elses country.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2361356]Mr E s 20 encounters with police is not something to be proud of. I have been going to DR for 9 years and zero police encounters. I have seen a few people get fucked up because their balls were bigger then their brains. Corrupt people with gun can be dangerous and not to be played. A smart ass tourist makes great target. Never forget you are in some one elses country.[/QUOTE]Come on Old Kool, you are both reaching and taking things out of context. You are reaching because how many times or when was the last time you heard of a Dominican cop shooting a foreign tourist? Can we conclude that your answer is never? And you are taking things out of context because all the times but 1 that I have had encounters with the cops have been because I was driving a rental car.
Everyone that drives rental cars in DR know that the cops look for that in order to pull you over in hopes of scaring you into giving them money. My brain is bigger than my balls because I understand that this is going to happen as part of driving there and I do not give in to it. It is simply a scare tactic.
I understand this the same that you should understand 90% of those Sosua hoes are going to try to pull some bullshit on you including stealing your shit and promising services they have no no intention on delivering, but still insisting to be paid the agreed upon amount. Obviously it works on enough people because both groups keep trying the same scams over and over again.
If it really was not worth the trouble then you would stop fucking with them Sosua hoes. People (you included) have reported time and time again the games that have been played by those broads that are not played other places, yet you keep going back for more. So it must really be worth the trouble (for you at least).
[QUOTE=Adinga;2361080]I just returned home after 11 days in So- sewer and the trip was not great.
Yes there was available pussy but most was beat up looking and the same 200 girls are on the street every night.
The scene changes on Friday and Saturdays as some additional hot girls go to Classicos VIP lounge but they are looking for 5000 pesos.
Some observations:
75 % of the working girls are Haitian.
70% of the tourists are Afro American.
Police patrols on Pedro Casante are non stop from 9 pm till 1 am. The girls cannot walk the streets unless they are accompanied by a tourist.
The chicas have become very business orientated and service was poor with average price being between 2000 -3000 pesos.
I would budget 5000 pesos per day for food drink and Chica. This did not include my hotel. Sosua is no longer a cheap vacation destination.[/QUOTE]It's low season in Sosua. Thats one reason. Enough chicas that look like anything stopped going to the usual mongering destinations for work and instead, use other ways to get hookups and make their money. Social media. Established contacts from previous encounters is a good source of securing and maintaining clients. As a result, they have guys flying into SD, STI or POP, scheduling to hookup with them. You have to know that enough chicas are doing this sort of thing. In enough cases it works out for the chica because the client may stay close to where the chica can get to the client easily. This way she is closer to her home and family.
Or she travels to where he is and stays with him. I have seen women (even with suitcases) get off the bus or pull up in a taxi or moto in Sosua, ready to stay with a guy. Women that nobody has ever seen in Sosua before. So my point is, Sosua may be dead for enough casual mongers who are hoping that their needs will be met by what Sosua has to offer on their particular trip.
Others will have adapted to not relying on what the streets / clubs and beaches have to offer in terms of women. Instead they will enjoy Sosua for it's other benefits, and secure their female company from established contacts or some other form.
As far as Sosua no longer being a cheap vacation destination? Thats a yes and a no, and a it depends on who it applies to. A lot depends on who is making the assessment. More accurately. Sosua is no longer a cheap vacation destination to whom it applies to. Not everybody may feel that way. An appropriate question to ask is, is Sosua still an affordable vacation destination? Not whether it is cheap or not. I live in Sosua, and as far as I'm concerned, I think Sosua is very affordable. I have a roster of regulars that I do TLN's with. Used to give them 2200 pesos, now I give them 3000. Been doing that for a while. I think 3000 for TLN is an affordable deal. Not cheap, but affordable. Mind you, I always established regulars way before I started living in Sosua. So personally I don't have a lot to complain about, even though the scene on the street has evolved. I don't look exclusively for my talent from the streets, clubs or beaches. Sometimes a situation just falls in my lap.
In the HBO TV show THE WIRE, Marla Daniels said to her (police LT.) husband at dinner: "The game is rigged. But you can't lose, if you don't play" You won't have a bad or disappointing trip, if you never come to Sosua to play. On the other hand, for the daring, the creative, the ones who see opportunity and the glass half full, their experience and circumstances in Sosua may differ significantly. Sosua is not responsible for adapting to our budgets. We have to take some responsibility on what our finances can adapt to or tolerate. Where in the world are the cheap destinations for mongers?
[QUOTE=Adinga;2361080]I would budget 5000 pesos per day for food drink and Chica. This did not include my hotel. Sosua is no longer a cheap vacation destination.[/QUOTE]A man can control his finances and his dick. A man will eat everyday, but he doesn't have to drink ( as in alcohol ) or fuck everyday. I disclosed how I give 3 k pesos to my regulars for TLN, but I don't have a chica over every night. As for drinking? I definitely have enough discipline to not drink or drink less.
Granted when a guy is on a short vacation, he is expected to over indulge mainly because he is on a fixed schedule. But even for a 10 day to 2 week trip, a guy does not have to fuck or drink every single day / night. So if he budgets for a chica everyday, but he doesn't fuck everyday, he is saving money. If he drinks less, he is saving money. He has just made his trip a little cheaper. More than enough guys on vacation have told me that they don't fuck everyday like they used to. That they like the idea of keeping their money in their pocket rather than giving it to some chick, especially when they arent that desperate to get laid. In essence there are things any monger can do to make his trip cheaper. You can't lose (money), when you don't play.
Of course, compared to what? Manila? Then maybe.
Let's see. A budget yet still decent apartment is $25-30. An upscale condo or good hotel room $60-80. Villa or ocean view condo $90+.
Food is very cheap, IMHO. $15 for lunch, $20-25 for dinner with a couple beers. 35-40 in an upscale with a few drinks.
Pussy: $40-50ST, never had LT.
I didn't find it expensive at all.
The next mongering destination in this hemisphere with a beach (albeit shitty) is Cartagena, and it's substantially more. $70ST is not a small change. Higher cost of food, too. Of course, Medellin or Bogota would be dirt cheap compared to that if the beach is not important.
Sosua can still be a cheap paradise with a right chica, IMHO.
I learned to pound the pavement looking for pussy during my Cuba years but the Sosua girls are all herded into the bars by police so no stragglers on the streets.
I eventually went to Classicos and would pull a few girls out for a interview at small street café before bringing her to my room.
A lot of the club girls are headaches so make sure you read them the riot act before taking them home.
There are some good deals for food. The German restaurant on the highway has all you can eat buffet on Thursday - 400 pesos. Food was excellent.
There's a little restaurant across from New Garden and they have Taco Tuesday which was excellent -- 50 pesos each.
I also liked the inexpensive Dominican food served at Ricky's Fried Chicken.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361451]Of course, compared to what? Manila? Then maybe.
Let's see. A budget yet still decent apartment is $25-30. An upscale condo or good hotel room $60-80. Villa or ocean view condo $90+.
Food is very cheap, IMHO. $15 for lunch, $20-25 for dinner with a couple beers. 35-40 in an upscale with a few drinks.
Pussy: $40-50ST, never had LT.
I didn't find it expensive at all.
The next mongering destination in this hemisphere with a beach (albeit shitty) is Cartagena, and it's substantially more. $70ST is not a small change. Higher cost of food, too. Of course, Medellin or Bogota would be dirt cheap compared to that if the beach is not important.
Sosua can still be a cheap paradise with a right chica, IMHO.[/QUOTE]One particular variable that is being complained about is the demand for more money from the chicas. And of course the potential for bad service and BS being on the rise (wasted money). Most other costs are doable. But here's the thing. Just because chicas are demanding more money doesn't mean a guy has to comply. Like I said before. You can't lose if you don't play. Take an experienced monger like Brother P. He comes to Sosua as often as he is able. Yes he has regulars. But sometimes he'll run into chicas in various places, negotiates for a price he's comfortable with, and gets his bump and grind on. Chicas that won't cooperate, he passes on. No harm, no foul. It's just business.
But for some reason it seems there are certain guys who need the game to adjust to their sensitivities and budget. They are easily turned off by chicas demanding "too much" and acting like they are in control of the situation. So for them, Sosua has become a shithole. But guess what? The DR like many other destinations, negotiating is part of the culture / system. So if a person is easily turned off or insulted because most chicks he runs into asks for too much, then that is a problem he has to deal with. Not that Sosua let him down.
I have heard enough reports of guys here and in person, that negotiated with a chica, where the price started off at some ridiculous amount, and they both agreed on something considerably lower. Like I said, enough guys are turned off by that. Their vibe for the chica is shot. Their vibe for the whole scene is shot. A few bad apples on a particular vacation, and everything about Sosua is fucked up. Meanwhile the reports from guys who thoroughly enjoyed themselves on their vacation, that is never considered. Like the fat girl out with her friends who never got to dance at the club like her girlfriends. The fat girl will say the club is fucked up just because she didn't have a good time. Meanwhile her GF's are willing to go again. A lot depends on the individual and timing, not necessarily the location or venue.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2361356]Mr E s 20 encounters with police is not something to be proud of. I have been going to DR for 9 years and zero police encounters. I have seen a few people get fucked up because their balls were bigger then their brains. Corrupt people with gun can be dangerous and not to be played. A smart ass tourist makes great target. Never forget you are in some one elses country.[/QUOTE]What is your definition of an encounter with the police in your mind? Are you assuming a police encounter means a guy did something wrong? Anybody can have an encounter with police. Especially if you are driving on DR roads. Now if you've been riding the bus and using taxis instead of driving, of course you may have zero to very minimal encounters with police.
My very 1st encounter with police was in 2008. I was driving a rental with my Dominican / American GF and a car full of people. I drove right towards a police checkpoint and rolled down my window. As soon as I opened my mouth and spoke in English the officer waved me on. Fast forward to 2016, I was driving my personal SUV and an AMET officer in Jarabacoa waved for me to pull over. I rolled down my window and spoke to her in English. She looked at me as if to say, I don't want no part of you, I won't be able to understand a word you say. She waved me on.
I got stopped by cops a few times in Sosua looking for a propina. I can think of a dozen or more encounters, all minor situations that had nothing to do with anything I did wrong. It was just cops being cops. In all my encounters they were mutually respectful and no drama. In most cases if you arent doing anything wrong or illegal you don't have to worry about being fucked up, just because you have a police encounter. As for the few that you saw get fucked up? They only represent themselves not anybody else, they dealt with the consequences accordingly. So do the folks who have had numerous encounters with police with no negative consequences or bad incidents, is that something to be proud of?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361204]And that is exactly how it became a hustle. Too many mongers rolling over and giving in. Sometimes not being able to communicate can be used to your advantage! You need to learn when to call someone's bluff.
In a case that you are describing the only word you need to know is embajada. I am sure you have seen shows where a person gets taken in by police and the only word the person will say if they are smart is lawyer. Well, if the police come to you in DR, all you need to say is embajada.
Of all the hookers on this planet that have threatened to call the cops on me, the only one that actually did it was in Sosua and that did not work out well for her. As many Dominican cops (at least 20) have pulled me over trying to get money from me, I have given exactly 0 pesos to date and have never been ticketed or taken to jail.
Don't just sit around and allow yourself to be extorted if you know you have done nothing wrong. Hustlers are depending on you to be scared. That is the only way the hustle will work. Scared money can't win.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361091]I wasn't sure the exchange places would be OK with the copies. And surely, taking my Schwab to Merengue was a mistake and totally unnecessary. Good point, lesson learned.
I have to disagree about one point, though.
You can negotiate all you want, but it does NOT guarantee zilch.
Unfortunately, chicas feel like they have an upper hand. Whereas I would (and did) stand my ground in Brazil, Thailand, or Colombia, for example, I've read enough reports of chicas threatening AND CALIING the cops in Sosua to know that there is little you can do. If a chica demands money beforehand and threatens to call cops, I'll pay and kick her out. I won't risk spending a night at a police station in a country where I have communication skills of a 3-year old, whereas they'll probably make me pay anyway or worse. So it sounds great in theory (and you absolutely should negotiate everything), but it guaranties nothing.[/QUOTE]On one hand a monger may stand his ground because of the principle of an issue, and on another he may have to abandon the principle in favor of avoiding a more potentially unpleasant circumstance. So much of what a monger will do depends on how he assesses the situation currently in front of him. In some instances a guy may stand his ground and the chica and the problem goes away. In another instance, the situation could get ugly and costly. [B]There is no one size fits all way to handle a situation.[/B] A guy can and should discern how he thinks he can handle the situation based on what is going on and who he is dealing with.
The way some guys deal with it, is by cutting their losses rather than extend the drama only to end up feeling more miserable after the encounter. Cutting ones losses early is not always about avoiding an encounter with police, but about peace of mind. Whatever works to get rid of a troublesome chica quickly, sometimes that's the best course to take. Much easier to put that encounter behind you and move on. If he gives in, he can chock it up as part of the cost one may endure in the p4 p game. He just made an extra donation.
As I said before, a guy has to discern the situation in front of him. [B]I dont advocate automatically giving into a chica just because she's challenging you.[/B] But sometimes you have to use Travel Wisdom instead of sticking to a principle. It's like Lets Make A Deal. You have to make a decision based on the unknown. You have to weigh the potentials. If getting rid of a chick costs 500 pesos, as opposed to the possibility of corrupt or opportunistic cops being called to potentially fleece you, the 500 pesos is the better option. When a guy is faced with a situation, he shouldn't be concerned about how giving in is going to reinforce chicas trying to bamboozle mongers. He should be concerned about mitigating the problem by doing what he deems best in the moment. Calling some chicas bluff just might be the initial and satisfactory course of action. It's up to the individual to figure that out.
That a monger may make himself a target by giving into a chica. That chica can inform other chicas about how they got over on you. I get it. A guy could be targeted. So what's a monger to do? I say get back on your bicycle and be prepared in case it happens again. A guy can always handle things differently. He's not necessarily locked into having only one option for handling trouble.
Mongers who show no respect to the locals, will never get respect from the locals, and vice versa.
In my experience, things go badly when a monger (usually inebriated) drama queen, meets a hooker drama queen.
They'll wake up the whole neighborhood!
Most visitors to Sosua manage to get by without endless confrontations with bad hookers and police!
(As usual IMHO and YMMV).
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2361406]Where in the world are the cheap destinations for mongers?[/QUOTE]Havana, Cuba.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2361669]Havana, Cuba.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. Kudos for mongers who can find value there. An affordable destination works for me. It doesn't have to be cheap.
Old Kool come on by if you in Atlanta next week.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2361669]Havana, Cuba.[/QUOTE]By reading the last few pages in the Havana thread. From what I've gathered, things have gotten more difficult. I do plan to visit Cuba this winter, but mostly for travel purposes rather than the hobbying (but we'll see).
I plan to be on the mean Sosua streets next week. Couple of days in SD and a few days in Sosua. Busting nuts but not eating buts.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361868]Old Kool come on by if you in Atlanta next week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361868]Old Kool come on by if you in Atlanta next week.[/QUOTE]The hell with inviting Old Kool; where do I sign up?
Last night Classico was about 15 to 1. Right now it's about 4 to 1. Not to mucho on the streets. Non regulars prices are up sometimes laughable.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2362203]I plan to be on the mean Sosua streets next week. Couple of days in SD and a few days in Sosua. Busting nuts but not eating buts.[/QUOTE]Whats wrong with butt eating?
I would totally agree with you assessment. Prices are ranging from 2000-3000. Most girls quoting 3000-4000 from the jump. Have to negotiate them down.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2362241]Last night Classico was about 15 to 1. Right now it's about 4 to 1. Not to mucho on the streets. Non regulars prices are up sometimes laughable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2362139]By reading the last few pages in the Havana thread. From what I've gathered, things have gotten more difficult. I do plan to visit Cuba this winter, but mostly for travel purposes rather than the hobbying (but we'll see).[/QUOTE]Yep, it probably is difficult for guys that need point and click destinations to get any action from females. But if you have a mouth piece, not a scary cat, and of course cash, but not as much that is needed for other monger spots, you will have a blast, and have plenty of chicas at your feet.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2362404]Yep, it probably is difficult for guys that need point and click destinations to get any action from females. But if you have a mouth piece, not a scary cat, and of course cash, but not as much that is needed for other monger spots, you will have a blast, and have plenty of chicas at your feet.[/QUOTE]Cuba is being persevered perfectly for us. If you believe the headlines its a no go travel wise, but that's not true. They are currently experiencing a difficult period but Cubans are strong people and have preserved through out. Hell, when has it been easy in Cuba for the people? The girls are still there and as sexy as always. Police presence is strong now, but it's not consistent.
If you stay away from the tourist traps and tap into the local vibe, Cuba will reveal herself to you. IMO it's the safest place in the world, the girls are the best in bed, and all it takes is a little patience and respect for the culture. Cuban girls like to fuck but if you act like a weekend warrior, you will be limited to P4 P.
Here's the catch: If you get outside of Havana it only gets better.
I am an old guy now eating ass not in my bag of tricks.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2362365]Whats wrong with butt eating?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2362495]I am an old guy now eating ass not in my bag of tricks.[/QUOTE]Damn Old Kool, I thought you knew how to keep a chick. You are going to mess around and get your girl taken. Go ahead and stick your tongue up her booty while you are using your vibrators on her and see the reaction you get. LOL.
Live in the bar downstairs from Classico. Place is not pack. Walked right up and my favorite seat at the bar was empty. I now see many more guys. At 1:26 am and no crowd to get in Classico.
It's about 4 to 1 IMHO.
The streets were basically empty. I actually miss the scene. You could pull some easy diamonds in the rough or fresh Haitians. That's done! (for now) IMO The lack of chicas helps making the asking price higher. It was hard to demand more money when the chicas were everywhere and would cut throat each out.
The new move is for the chicas to group together and ride around in cars or motos. The police don't harass the cars just chicas walking. I seen may 7 to 10 different group of chicas.
Packed with chicas and Tourist. It's about 3 to 1. I know Classico is loving the door charge. The crackdown is a plus for them. It forces the chicas to pay come inside.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2362477]Cuba is being persevered perfectly for us. If you believe the headlines its a no go travel wise, but that's not true. They are currently experiencing a difficult period but Cubans are strong people and have preserved through out. Hell, when has it been easy in Cuba for the people? The girls are still there and as sexy as always. Police presence is strong now, but it's not consistent.
If you stay away from the tourist traps and tap into the local vibe, Cuba will reveal herself to you. IMO it's the safest place in the world, the girls are the best in bed, and all it takes is a little patience and respect for the culture. Cuban girls like to fuck but if you act like a weekend warrior, you will be limited to P4 P.
Here's the catch: If you get outside of Havana it only gets better.[/QUOTE]Great post, and all very true!
I am in my 50's traveling for the first time to Sosua, will I be in for some adult fun? How does things work around here?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2362495]I am an old guy now eating ass not in my bag of tricks.[/QUOTE]LOL, when I was young it was not in my bag of tricks.
[QUOTE=BieBie;2362766]I am in my 50's traveling for the first time to Sosua, will I be in for some adult fun? How does things work around here?[/QUOTE]In addition to hooker girls there are plenty of Dominican gigolos. Plenty of ladies from Europe come to have fun with them. I guess you need to ask around or hang around bars.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2362495]I am an old guy now eating ass not in my bag of tricks.[/QUOTE]It's not in mine either! Nor will it be! I speak a little espanol, bailo a little bachata and generally like to have fun! But eating ass is out!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2362603]Live in the bar downstairs from Classico. Place is not pack. Walked right up and my favorite seat at the bar was empty. I now see many more guys. At 1:26 am and no crowd to get in Classico.
It's about 4 to 1 IMHO.
The streets were basically empty. I actually miss the scene. You could pull some easy diamonds in the rough or fresh Haitians. That's done! (for now) [b]IMO The lack of chicas helps making the asking price higher.[/b] It was hard to demand more money when the chicas were everywhere and would cut throat each out.
The new move is for the chicas to group together and ride around in cars or motos. The police don't harass the cars just chicas walking. I seen may 7 to 10 different group of chicas.[/QUOTE]Would you say that along with the higher asking prices (I'm assuming most push for short time), that Chicas seem MORE anxious to dust a client off quickly so they can get back to Merengue and queue up their next client?
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2362954]Would you say that along with the higher asking prices (I'm assuming most push for short time), that Chicas seem MORE anxious to dust a client off quickly so they can get back to Merengue and queue up their next client?[/QUOTE]Being more anxious dust a client off is the game that they used to play in the past. That was the MO of most chicas IMO. But now because all the aggressiveness from the police the action is isolated to the clubs. From the club the chicas are unionizing. Before when they tried to unionize so many time they couldn't, because what one girl wouldn't do for 1500 20 chicas outside the club we're waiting for the chance. Now there's no action outside alternative. You have some of us that like the action out a club. Or just don't care for large crowds and loud rap music. I mean I can do classico but I haven't in a while, only the bar downstairs.
Meanwhile the little bars and business are financially suffering. I think a few closed for vacation.
My friend who has about 6 trips to the Sue in a year said it's now an adjustment. He said he didn't see any of his regulars.
[QUOTE=BieBie;2362766]I am in my 50's traveling for the first time to Sosua, will I be in for some adult fun? How does things work around here?[/QUOTE]Sweetie, unless you are super sexy you will be in for some stiff competition from the locals!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2363334]Being more anxious dust a client off is the game that they used to play in the past. That was the MO of most chicas IMO. But now because all the aggressiveness from the police the action is isolated to the clubs. From the club the chicas are unionizing. Before when they tried to unionize so many time they couldn't, because what one girl wouldn't do for 1500 20 chicas outside the club we're waiting for the chance. Now there's no action outside alternative. You have some of us that like the action out a club. Or just don't care for large crowds and loud rap music. I mean I can do classico but I haven't in a while, only the bar downstairs.
Meanwhile the little bars and business are financially suffering. I think a few closed for vacation.
My friend who has about 6 trips to the Sue in a year said it's now an adjustment. He said he didn't see any of his regulars.[/QUOTE]I hope this is another phase in the history of SOSUA. Hope it improves by November which is planned trip. Sosua businesses are geared toward prostitution. Hence town itself cannot survive if the authorities shut it down.
[QUOTE=BieBie;2362766]I am in my 50's traveling for the first time to Sosua, will I be in for some adult fun? How does things work around here?[/QUOTE]What kind of fun are you looking for?
Lock your valuables in the room safe, and don't carry more cash than you need.
During the day, go sit at a main beach restaurant alone with a glass of wine, or beer, tip well and smile, and the locals will find you.
Sosua is basically P4P. The young bucks are hungry for cash, and most local ladies do bi.
Evenings, go to one of the ex pat bars that have the karaoke and be among people your own age, couples and singles. Flirt and and it's free.
Use your own room for your fun, and don't go off the beaten track with strangers.
It's all at your doorstep in Sosua. Everything is available for a price.
Let us know how you make out. Post a Report!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2363334]Being more anxious dust a client off is the game that they used to play in the past. That was the MO of most chicas IMO. But now because all the aggressiveness from the police the action is isolated to the clubs. From the club the chicas are unionizing. Before when they tried to unionize so many time they couldn't, because what one girl wouldn't do for 1500 20 chicas outside the club we're waiting for the chance. Now there's no action outside alternative. You have some of us that like the action out a club. Or just don't care for large crowds and loud rap music. I mean I can do classico but I haven't in a while, only the bar downstairs.
Meanwhile the little bars and business are financially suffering. I think a few closed for vacation.
My friend who has about 6 trips to the Sue in a year said it's now an adjustment. He said he didn't see any of his regulars.[/QUOTE]I take it, most of the mongers you see in the clubs are putting up with the chicas demands? I guess most mongers that still come to Sosua will never do like the chicas. Unionize. What one monger won't pay, 50 other thirsty dudes will gladly pay. Those chicas in the clubs could be put in some serious check, if enough mongers did their part. Fat chance of that happening. You mentioned that your friend didn't "see" any of his regulars. Was that by choice? Was he expecting them to already be in Sosua, or he just didn't contact them, or they werent available?
I am currently abroad and away from Sosua. Occasionally, I turn on my chica DR phone to say Hi to my "regulars". They all ask when am I coming back. I never give a definitive answer, except to say I will let them know. It helps in avoiding any requests for bringing back shit. But my point is, each time I travel and come back, I let each know that I'm back. Eventually they all initiate making it their business to come over. I'm thankful for the guys that have taken care of them while I was gone. Maintaining them sexually and financially while I am out of the rotation. Why is it your friend hasnt seen his "regulars" when he comes back to the sue?
[QUOTE=DCups;2363358]Sweetie, unless you are super sexy you will be in for some stiff competition from the locals![/QUOTE]Why do you say that? Nobody cares about sexy when they are trying to get paid. What money does a local have to offer a man unless she got it from you? Women monger there just like men. Go down to the beaches and you will see the foreign women with the Dominican gigolos. Have you ever seen the movie Sanky Panky about the local guys looking for a rich walking foreign ATM the same as the women do?
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2363787]I take it, most of the mongers you see in the clubs are putting up with the chicas demands? I guess most mongers that still come to Sosua will never do like the chicas. Unionize. What one monger won't pay, 50 other thirsty dudes will gladly pay. Those chicas in the clubs could be put in some serious check, if enough mongers did their part. Fat chance of that happening.[/QUOTE]Of course. If you saved up and waited all that time for a trip you only take once a year and some chick tells you $100 instead of $50 then you would still probably pay it. No big deal for the girl because she has not had to travel and spend all this money to get there.
Kind of how it works with nonpros. If you traveled to see her then she might not put out because she has no skin in the game. She has not had to go out of her way because you basically showed up on her doorstep. If she traveled to see you and spent all that money and time you best believe she is not leaving there without getting some dick. The home team has the advantage because the away team has invested so much already that they don't want to see go down the drain. In many cases though, it may be throwing good money after bad money; especially when you are setting a precedent for prices to be higher next time you come because you caved in.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2363787]I am currently abroad and away from Sosua. Occasionally, I turn on my chica DR phone to say Hi to my "regulars". They all ask when am I coming back[/QUOTE]Yesterday I was talking to my buddy here in Thailand that also keeps a place in Sosua. He showed me how the chicks have been hitting him up recently asking when he is coming back. Must be hard times back on the North Coast right about now.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363848]Of course. If you saved up and waited all that time for a trip you only take once a year and some chick tells you $100 instead of $50 then you would still probably pay it. No big deal for the girl because she has not had to travel and spend all this money to get there.
Kind of how it works with nonpros. If you traveled to see her then she might not put out because she has no skin in the game. She has not had to go out of her way because you basically showed up on her doorstep. If she traveled to see you and spent all that money and time you best believe she is not leaving there without getting some dick. The home team has the advantage because the away team has invested so much already that they don't want to see go down the drain. In many cases though, it may be throwing good money after bad money; especially when you are setting a precedent for prices to be higher next time you come because you caved in.
Yesterday I was talking to my buddy here in Thailand that also keeps a place in Sosua. He showed me how the chicks have been hitting him up recently asking when he is coming back. Must be hard times back on the North Coast right about now.[/QUOTE]What you say is quite correct. However that mainly applies to certain mongers. For others they can and have adapted. Take me. When I return to Sosua, Imma connect with established contacts. My roster has evolved over the years, with enough that have dropped off, and others replaced them.
With this roster, I will have connected with all of them within 10 days to 2 weeks. If I wanted to try some new talent, I could use several different dating sites to score more talent as a backup. There are hundreds of them ready to get with a guy on vacation. Thats exactly what any invested monger could be doing before he gets to Sosua, without relying on the Clubs. So essentially, all it takes is some effort on a mongers part to not pigeonhole himself into only relying on Clubs and bars. Thats one way to help take away some of that home court advantage Club chicas have. I personally already am doing my part because I only go to Merengue when hanging with other dudes, and never go to the clubs. When I'm not hunting, I just enjoy chica watching. I'm not thirsty.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363848]Yesterday I was talking to my buddy here in Thailand that also keeps a place in Sosua. He showed me how the chicks have been hitting him up recently asking when he is coming back. Must be hard times back on the North Coast right about now.[/QUOTE]I think it's a combination. It could be hard times. And it could also be just business, maintaining ones contacts. I think chicks get off on having regulars (for income/benefit purposes) just as much as we do (for sex purposes).
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2363787]I take it, most of the mongers you see in the clubs are putting up with the chicas demands? I guess most mongers that still come to Sosua will never do like the chicas. Unionize. What one monger won't pay, 50 other thirsty dudes will gladly pay. Those chicas in the clubs could be put in some serious check, if enough mongers did their part. Fat chance of that happening. You mentioned that your friend didn't "see" any of his regulars. Was that by choice? Was he expecting them to already be in Sosua, or he just didn't contact them, or they werent available?
I am currently abroad and away from Sosua. Occasionally, I turn on my chica DR phone to say Hi to my "regulars". They all ask when am I coming back. I never give a definitive answer, except to say I will let them know. It helps in avoiding any requests for bringing back shit. But my point is, each time I travel and come back, I let each know that I'm back. Eventually they all initiate making it their business to come over. I'm thankful for the guys that have taken care of them while I was gone. Maintaining them sexually and financially while I am out of the rotation. Why is it your friend hasnt seen his "regulars" when he comes back to the sue?[/QUOTE]I agree with you. They're always has been a war / Unity between Unionized Chica and weekend warriors. It's a never ending relationship that takes place inside the club. I for one, rarely deal with chicas from the club though I love the scenery. I don't remember the last time I was actually picking a new girl from the club.
However, The current circumstances require immediate adjustments. IMHO The average or below average weekend Warrior is going to have to deal with the club chicas. If they want to deal with a high concentration of choices. There's nothing on the street and the union knows it. And I understand the Chica's perspective. 8000 pesos for her hair, 2000 for her outfit shoes and nails, and many mongers don't have other choices, I would jack my price up to. Not to mention the girls with these silicone breast and asses are still paying the doctor bill.
No my friend does not communicate with his regulars like that. But after four years of coming back-and-forth and six time in the last year he always bumped into five or six of his blast from the past. That was not the case.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363848]Of course. If you saved up and waited all that time for a trip you only take once a year and some chick tells you $100 instead of $50 then you would still probably pay it. No big deal for the girl because she has not had to travel and spend all this money to get there.
Kind of how it works with nonpros. If you traveled to see her then she might not put out because she has no skin in the game. She has not had to go out of her way because you basically showed up on her doorstep. If she traveled to see you and spent all that money and time you best believe she is not leaving there without getting some dick. The home team has the advantage because the away team has invested so much already that they don't want to see go down the drain. In many cases though, it may be throwing good money after bad money; especially when you are setting a precedent for prices to be higher next time you come because you caved in.[/QUOTE]Good point E. Yesterday my cousin called and one from Santo Domingo. I told him you called for this girl so now you have to decide on what you're going to do. If you don't plan on spending a lot of time with her, as soon as she get here take it to the room get a session, give her money, send her own away. She's investing her time and money to come see you. And you ask her to come.
She's prepared to stay all night with you. If you don't want that all night pay her 2500 or 3000 depending on her performance. 2000 is normal but since you had her transported to you you have to pay more. But at least you know she's coming for money with sex. That puts off a lot of bullshit get some chicas play.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363848]Of course. If you saved up and waited all that time for a trip you only take once a year and some chick tells you $100 instead of $50 then you would still probably pay it...
when you are setting a precedent for prices to be higher next time you come because you caved in.
[/QUOTE]On my first trip to the DR, I was THAT monger. The one who had saved up waited almost a year, traveled 2000 miles for a week in what was to me paradise. I spent money on chicas left and right. I remember me and my wingman were pulling them walking in front of our hotel, we didn't even make it to the strip until late that night or maybe it was the next day.
I think the lowest I gave was 2000 pesos but others were getting 3000. I remember one night we brought back 6 chicas and paid each 3000. In our mind it was still way cheaper than what we were used to in the DC and LA areas where we were from. Fortunately between RTFF (big ups to Mr. E, GoGo, OldKool, Grownman and everyone else) learning more Spanish, and talking to others on the ground we learned.
Now to my point. Two of those chicas from my original trip I still stay in contact with. Again on that 1st trip I was giving them 2000-3000. I now offer them 1500ST or 2000 TLN, even though I have others that are cheaper or "free", meaning I'm still paying for food and drinks and will give them a regalo or two that I brought with me, we'll play music, we dance with them and generally treat them like a gentlemen. Some will say "that's wrong" you set a precedence you have to pay them the same amount that you started with. Why? It's my money and it's their choice. Also one is now on the wrong side of 30 but is still very attractive.
As Mr. E has said many times, we are in charge of our money not the chicas. If she doesn't agree or if she hesitates move on. This is a lesson we all have to learn. When I first offered the younger one 1500 of course she balked because she was used to getting like 2500 from me. Let me add that I didn't invite her over and then tell her 1500, I told her via whatsapp what I would give her. A couple of days later she asks when she can come over. I reminded her of how much I was going to give her, she says no problem and has been getting 1500 plus a regalo ever since with no complaints. With the older one, she text me about 4 pm I told her I would give her 2000 TLN if she came over now. We could have dinner, drinks maybe hit up a club, basically have a nice evening. She countered with 2500 I said "no" 2000. (I know I would've spent more than 2000 with food and drinks but that's not the point) She says maybe later, and I said maybe if I'm not busy. I know she's hedging her bet, hoping to get another date or two and still see me later, which is cool with me. Make your money baby. I see her later that night sitting in the bar, alone, looking thirsty both literally and figuratively. I see her off and on throughout the evening and night at the different bars but never approach her as we've already had a conversation. Eventually at about 2 am she texts me but alas I already have a chica. She hedged her bet and lost. While she is still very attractive, she is a darker dominicana like many of the Europeans like but she is thicker than most of the Haitianas I've seen them prefer. I've only seen her with the bros and they're were'nt many in town.
On my next trip will I have to move from 1500-2000 to 2000-2500? Maybe, maybe not but either way I will still remember first and foremost that I am in charge of my money and how and on whom I choose to spend it. If the chicas have evolved and "unionized" we need to evolve too and let the law of supply and demand rule.
Good post DC Gogo. I think the guys are too selfish to ever unionize. Hot Latin pussy makes guys lose common sense. I've chosen to stay ahead of the big spending weekend warriors by scouting out other spots off the beaten paths where these jokers will never venture. Shit, I know guys now that pay girls monthly to stay out of Sosua LOL. One guy brought his girl a nail salon in Puerto Plata for 1500 usd a month to only later find out she was also giving massages in a back room. He forgave her and now pays her to stay home and away from Sosua. How can I compete with that? Guys are using the saying ' Its my money and I don't want you telling me how to spend it'. I would have never said that to my uncles as they taught me the DR ropes 10 years ago. Recently I went to a local spot to eat with two wingmen and the meal came to 6 usd, each person. This joker left a four dollar tip on a 6 dollar meal because the waitress was cute. He was just smiling at the girl and being big a big shot, now the girls will expect such high propinas. I tried to explain this to him but he didn't care and called me a hater. Oh well, now I got to break away and let him learn.
With the internet now in full bloom, places are exposed for mongers rapidly and its a free fall. Sosua and the DR taking a hit, Medellin now facing a growing problem, and Brazil on the slow come-up.
Its going to be interesting watching the Sosua loyalist have to make adjustments as Sosua changes. Looking forward to seeing those guys in other spots making new adventures. Shit I had a five year Sosua fix myself so I understand giving up our first travel love.
The basic rules still apply: Learn your Spanish and Latin dance, branch out, stay ahead of the wild packs.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363848]Of course. If you saved up and waited all that time for a trip you only take once a year and some chick tells you $100 instead of $50 then you would still probably pay it. No big deal for the girl because she has not had to travel and spend all this money to get there.[/QUOTE]It would be painful for me to pay almost as much in Sosua as in NYC (OK, Brooklyn) for a quick fuck. I would walk around until I find someone who's not insane, hopefully. Granted it's tiresome, though.
[QUOTE=DcGogo;2364099]When I first offered the younger one 1500 of course she balked because she was used to getting like 2500 from me. Let me add that I didn't invite her over and then tell her 1500, I told her via whatsapp what I would give her. A couple of days later she asks when she can come over. I reminded her of how much I was going to give her, she says no problem[/QUOTE]LOL. When a mf knows the real value of 1500 pesos, those games no longer work. Like you said, you were in the mindframe of the shit was cheaper than DC and LA so why not? But in DR when a mf got 1500 it is a horse of a different color.
A few weeks ago I met a chick from Santo Domingo on LatinCupid. She would speak to me on whatsapp everyday but had no picture in that box so I forgot how she looked. I told her to send me some pictures. The first picture she sent was one of her ass out.
I asked her flat out if she was a hooker. She said no. Well only a hooker would pull that move, so nevermind what she was telling me. I was going by what she was showing me. I asked how much she wanted and she said $100. I said talk to me in pesos. She said 5000. I started laughing. Long story short, I got her to settle on 1500 and told her I would call her next time I am in Santo Domingo. I knew 1500 pesos was nothing to sneeze at.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2364365]LOL. When a mf knows the real value of 1500 pesos, those games no longer work. Like you said, you were in the mindframe of the shit was cheaper than DC and LA so why not? But in DR when a mf got 1500 it is a horse of a different color.
A few weeks ago I met a chick from Santo Domingo on LatinCupid. She would speak to me on whatsapp everyday but had no picture in that box so I forgot how she looked. I told her to send me some pictures. The first picture she sent was one of her ass out.
I asked her flat out if she was a hooker. She said no. Well only a hooker would pull that move, so nevermind what she was telling me. I was going by what she was showing me. I asked how much she wanted and she said $100. I said talk to me in pesos. She said 5000. I started laughing. Long story short, I got her to settle on 1500 and told her I would call her next time I am in Santo Domingo. I knew 1500 pesos was nothing to sneeze at.[/QUOTE]Just curios was that 1500 for a short time? I will be making my first trip in January.
[QUOTE=DcGogo;2364099]
Now to my point. Two of those chicas from my original trip I still stay in contact with. Again on that 1st trip I was giving them 2000-3000. I now offer them 1500ST or 2000 TLN, even though I have others that are cheaper or "free", meaning I'm still paying for food and drinks and will give them a regalo or two that I brought with me, we'll play music, we dance with them and generally treat them like a gentlemen. Some will say "that's wrong" you set a precedence you have to pay them the same amount that you started with. Why? It's my money and it's their choice.
When I first offered the younger one 1500 of course she balked because she was used to getting like 2500 from me. Let me add that I didn't invite her over and then tell her 1500, I told her via whatsapp what I would give her. A couple of days later she asks when she can come over. I reminded her of how much I was going to give her, she says no problem and has been getting 1500 plus a regalo ever since with no complaints. With the older one, she text me about 4 pm I told her I would give her 2000 TLN if she came over now. We could have dinner, drinks maybe hit up a club, basically have a nice evening. She countered with 2500 I said "no" 2000. (I know I would've spent more than 2000 with food and drinks but that's not the point)
On my next trip will I have to move from 1500-2000 to 2000-2500? Maybe, maybe not but either way I will still remember first and foremost that I am in charge of my money and how and on whom I choose to spend it. If the chicas have evolved and "unionized" we need to evolve too and let the law of supply and demand rule.[/QUOTE]Thats monger 101 and 102 how you are operating. That's how I roll. My repeats receive 1000 to 2000 pesos depending on my mood. They received 1000 to 1500 if they called me and I didn't called them. 1500 to 2000 if I call. A gift is totally based on performance. On my first session when I call I usually give 2000 and tell them if we repeat again during this trip, I will only have 1500 for them. We agreed before she leaves the room. Or she leave it alone. As long as we understand if I repeat again during the same vacation what price am I going to pay. So don't blow up my phone and less you want 1500 pesos.
E said it before me. The greatest thing you can give a chica is a repeat. No matter how Much you gave her; that money is gone the next day after she leaves the room. If you over price her let's say 4000 pesos. She's going to expect it all the time. You will find yourself Not wanting to repeat with her because you pay other chicas half that amount and they do a better job. Meanwhile she's blowing up your phone and now you're feeling guilty!
I have some of my friends who say their repeats told them the price went up after they were finished! This is total disrespect but these chicas will try you. Sometime they are so hungry and shady they with mess up a good client.
I had a beautiful one 19 years old. She was a birthday gift for myself. I gave her 2000 pesos and two dress. We had been dealing with each other for over a year. A few times I gave up 1500. One day he told me that 2000 pesos was not enough it a little bit of money. The sex was good but she wasn't a headhunter. I cut her ass off three trips. When she came to her senses and told me OK 2000 no problem. She usually bring A friend with her. I took her friend 1500 for myself. I pass my old one off to my 340 pounds friend. She was shocked when I called her to the room only to give her to him. And he didn't have a gift. But he gave her 2000. Now her friend is in my rotation. She’s out. I come enough to be valued as a good client that she lost. I’ve been want to be my girlfriend. Sorry mommy only friends with benefit in your country.
Newbies please understand in the average casa the Chica end up with about 1000 to 1500 pesos no matter what you paid to the house. In order to work there the employer must have all their chicas medically cleared and provide proof for her to work. The average price for a street walker in the Santo Domingo is 1000-1500 pesos. Why are the un medically cleared Chicas who told you that from the capital charging you 3000+ ST in da Su? Is your money I'm not telling you how to spend it. I'm just sharing The market value to give you a better understanding.
Took bus from SD on Caribe tours terrible road construction. Plus had to stand last 2 hours. I do 2 a day. Normally but yesterday did the trifecta. My go to oral specialists another repeat but the icing on the cake was a 22 year old from Punta cana. No children perky breast and wet willing pussy. I thought we would chill and work on the am but when she stepped out of the shower it was on. Beautiful dark dominicana was natural viagra. She said it was her 1st night in sosua. I was very specific with her on the interview. We danced in Classicos and had nice vibe. Woke up with her naked beside me awesome.
The location is the same but the view is not. Very few girls strolling. Sad! Never the less beer still cold. Afternoon chica watch thing of the past. I could make call and do an afternoon booty call but 3 yesterday kills money and leche. Still better then Saturday night in US. Last night in Classicos was free early 50 girls 4 guys. Rolled out with real winner.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2364623]The location is the same but the view is not. Very few girls strolling. Sad! Never the less beer still cold. Afternoon chica watch thing of the past. I could make call and do an afternoon booty call but 3 yesterday kills money and leche. Still better then Saturday night in US. Last night in Classicos was free early 50 girls 4 guys. Rolled out with real winner.[/QUOTE]That's how it was for my July trip.
But I still had fun! Like you say it's better than home!
Plus I have a good WhatsApp team! Rumor is they won't let up until after the election in may. I'll be back soon. Can't wait!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2364623]The location is the same but the view is not. Very few girls strolling. Sad! Never the less beer still cold. Afternoon chica watch thing of the past. I could make call and do an afternoon booty call but 3 yesterday kills money and leche. Still better then Saturday night in US. Last night in Classicos was free early 50 girls 4 guys. Rolled out with real winner.[/QUOTE]It's August, fer chrissakes! Lol.
The heat of the summer when the place goes to sleep was never good for chica watching on the street. That's why they call it the Low Season, when a lot of businesses close up for the summer.
We always get different reports after it picks up again every November until April, the High Season.
Had 4 days of big fun food friends and fucking. Yes it was a wet dream come true. Sosua is my box of cracker Jacks sweet a few nuts and often nice prizes. Did about6 girls didn't keep track. Met a sweet thing had her for 3 days . Picked up a side street girl who has been hitting on me a few years. It was a morning appointment for a masaje. She is mid 30's solid body sweet atitude. Gave good masaje, manicure while but naked. What heck morning wood needs work. I broke out the magic wand she popped nuts than planter's. She moved to cow girl and rode me like her life depended on me nutting or her dying. Blew one of the best pops in a long time. She made the go to list. Do not sleep on the side street pussy. P.S. Police have zero tolerance for female foot traffic. Roughly enforced.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2364623]The location is the same but the view is not. Very few girls strolling. Sad! Never the less beer still cold. Afternoon chica watch thing of the past. I could make call and do an afternoon booty call but 3 yesterday kills money and leche. Still better then Saturday night in US. Last night in Classicos was free early 50 girls 4 guys. Rolled out with real winner.[/QUOTE]Been to Sosua 10 x but not in the last couple of years.
Mombassa Kenya 4 x, San Joe's CR 4 x, German FKK's, Jamaica, Accra, Banjul in The Gambia, Medellin 3 x, Tijuana etc etc.
Feel like I've been there and done it, but never have I seen as fun and packed a place with lots of dancing, drinking etc like the'Latin, what 6-8 years ago?
I miss the afternoon girls on the street, watching as women get off the motoconchos all dressed up and ready to go.
I speak little Spanish so liked The African countries I visited but found the scene very spread out.
Don't find Asian women particularly attractive.
Time on a plane is a negative; cost of women less so.
Where would you guys go next if you were me?
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2365893]Been to Sosua 10 x but not in the last couple of years.
Mombassa Kenya 4 x, San Joe's CR 4 x, German FKK's, Jamaica, Accra, Banjul in The Gambia, Medellin 3 x, Tijuana etc etc.
Feel like I've been there and done it, but never have I seen as fun and packed a place with lots of dancing, drinking etc like the'Latin, what 6-8 years ago?
I miss the afternoon girls on the street, watching as women get off the motoconchos all dressed up and ready to go.
I speak little Spanish so liked The African countries I visited but found the scene very spread out.
Don't find Asian women particularly attractive.
Time on a plane is a negative; cost of women less so.
Where would you guys go next if you were me?[/QUOTE]Brazil! Many flights are overnight even if it takes triple time than to Dom Rep.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2365893]
Where would you guys go next if you were me?[/QUOTE]Russia, Ukraine, Latvia.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2365893]Been to Sosua 10 x but not in the last couple of years.
Mombassa Kenya 4 x, San Joe's CR 4 x, German FKK's, Jamaica, Accra, Banjul in The Gambia, Medellin 3 x, Tijuana etc etc.
Feel like I've been there and done it, but never have I seen as fun and packed a place with lots of dancing, drinking etc like the'Latin, what 6-8 years ago?
I miss the afternoon girls on the street, watching as women get off the motoconchos all dressed up and ready to go.
I speak little Spanish so liked The African countries I visited but found the scene very spread out.
Don't find Asian women particularly attractive.
Time on a plane is a negative; cost of women less so.
Where would you guys go next if you were me?[/QUOTE]Where are you based?
If the cost of pussy is less important than travel time, have you considered Montreal or Quebec City? It's been years since I mongered there, but the talent was outstanding, and I loved the scenery.
Other than that, how can you go wrong with Brazil? SP is better and cheaper for the hobby, but I love Rio and the beach.
You mentioned Medellin, but have you tried Cartagena or / and Bogota? I don't know if you like to do some silly travel things like me, but if yes, CTG is totally worth it, even though it's the most expensive destination in Colombia, I think.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2365893]Been to Sosua 10 x but not in the last couple of years.
Mombassa Kenya 4 x, San Joe's CR 4 x, German FKK's, Jamaica, Accra, Banjul in The Gambia, Medellin 3 x, Tijuana etc etc.
Feel like I've been there and done it, but never have I seen as fun and packed a place with lots of dancing, drinking etc like the'Latin, what 6-8 years ago?
I miss the afternoon girls on the street, watching as women get off the motoconchos all dressed up and ready to go.
I speak little Spanish so liked The African countries I visited but found the scene very spread out.
Don't find Asian women particularly attractive.
Time on a plane is a negative; cost of women less so.
Where would you guys go next if you were me?[/QUOTE]Bogota Colombia, the mongering capital of the western hemisphere hands down, everything from 9 dollar street walkers to as high up the food chain you want to go.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2365893]
Feel like I've been there and done it, but never have I seen as fun and packed a place with lots of dancing, drinking etc like the'Latin, what 6-8 years ago?
[/QUOTE]Still in the Golden Era. You won't find that kind of hot fun Caribbean vibe anywhere. Guys tell me Help in Rio was much better but for Sosua that was a great time. Rumbas, D'Latin, Pasions, CMP, etc. I liked the fact that Sosua has always been relatively safe and the environment is laid back where you actually feel like it is a real vacation. Great pool and beach parties are easy to achieve (at least they were back in the day).
https://vimeo.com/69931785
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2366169]Still in the Golden Era. You won't find that kind of hot fun Caribbean vibe anywhere. Guys tell me Help in Rio was much better but for Sosua that was a great time. Rumbas, D'Latin, Pasions, CMP, etc. I liked the fact that Sosua has always been relatively safe and the environment is laid back where you actually feel like it is a real vacation. Great pool and beach parties are easy to achieve (at least they were back in the day).
https://vimeo.com/69931785[/QUOTE]Those were the best days! I partied from one end of pedro cclisante to the other! Plus you had four roses and the cucumber bar, plan be! Chicas every where! 2012-14 or 15 where awesome years to be in sosua!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2366209]Those were the best days! I partied from one end of pedro cclisante to the other! Plus you had four roses and the cucumber bar, plan be! Chicas every where! 2012-14 or 15 where awesome years to be in sosua![/QUOTE]During those years and a few before I learned the value of having hide out spots in Sosua. Chicas were laying claims on dudes back then and knew all the main spots up by Classicos so the outter bars and waitresses became my favorites. But you had to wait till they got off late or date them on their day off.
I remember one night 4 Roses had this beautiful new girl working there. I spent two hours sitting at the bar from 12 am to 2 am drinking and thinking I had a fool proof plan. Classicos gets crowded about midnight and I don't like to be cramped in so I left.
Sitting at 4 Roses buying Ana a drink and getting a vibe going. No boyfriend, no plans for later, gets off at 2 am. About 1:40 am the German owner came through but not as an owner. He was sitting at the bar like a patron. Could he be waiting on her?
At 1:55 am two cops on motorcycles pulled up next door at Dominoe bar. At 2 am, last call and the girls are closing up. I thought the cops were only there because the two bars were closing, isn't that nice of these community based servants I thought LOL. The owner was my only competition but he could pull rank on me. Got to wait it out. The owner knew how I worked because I had banged half the girls working there, but he had a confidence about him I underestimated. The owner was the winner as I got ready to go back up to the strip when the cops called the girl over. The waitress from Dominoe bar next door was also in on the conversation. The owner looked worried and just like a breeze the two bar girls walked over and got on a motochoncho and followed the cops. Damn now I got to make my way back to After one disco and maneuver the cracked side walks, stray dogs and crack heads. She wasn't available that trip. But I did get her the next trip when the new novelty had worn off and she was now just a Sosua trick. Eventually an Italian dude married her and moved her away.
While on the ground you can have a great time but the numbers are way down low season or not. The police have eliminated day watching. It use to be it was the thing to do on trips.
2012 was my introduction to Sosua. Watching the strolling in front of El Flow was beyond belief. I set there high and low season and was always blown away. Those days are gone. The new guys happy with what they have and I have adjusted.
PiQUOTE=BrotherP;2366209]Those were the best days! I partied from one end of pedro cclisante to the other! Plus you had four roses and the cucumber bar, plan be! Chicas every where! 2012-14 or 15 where awesome years to be in sosua![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2366169]Still in the Golden Era. You won't find that kind of hot fun Caribbean vibe anywhere. Guys tell me Help in Rio was much better but for Sosua that was a great time. Rumbas, D'Latin, Pasions, CMP, etc. I liked the fact that Sosua has always been relatively safe and the environment is laid back where you actually feel like it is a real vacation. Great pool and beach parties are easy to achieve (at least they were back in the day).
https://vimeo.com/69931785[/QUOTE]Don't think I'll return to Sosua without Rumbas.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2366379]During those years and a few before I learned the value of having hide out spots in Sosua. Chicas were laying claims on dudes back then and knew all the main spots up by Classicos so the outter bars and waitresses became my favorites. But you had to wait till they got off late or date them on their day off.
I remember one night 4 Roses had this beautiful new girl working there. I spent two hours sitting at the bar from 12 am to 2 am drinking and thinking I had a fool proof plan. Classicos gets crowded about midnight and I don't like to be cramped in so I left.
Sitting at 4 Roses buying Ana a drink and getting a vibe going. No boyfriend, no plans for later, gets off at 2 am. About 1:40 am the German owner came through but not as an owner. He was sitting at the bar like a patron. Could he be waiting on her?
At 1:55 am two cops on motorcycles pulled up next door at Dominoe bar. At 2 am, last call and the girls are closing up. I thought the cops were only there because the two bars were closing, isn't that nice of these community based servants I thought LOL. The owner was my only competition but he could pull rank on me. Got to wait it out. The owner knew how I worked because I had banged half the girls working there, but he had a confidence about him I underestimated. The owner was the winner as I got ready to go back up to the strip when the cops called the girl over. The waitress from Dominoe bar next door was also in on the conversation. The owner looked worried and just like a breeze the two bar girls walked over and got on a motochoncho and followed the cops. Damn now I got to make my way back to After one disco and maneuver the cracked side walks, stray dogs and crack heads. She wasn't available that trip. But I did get her the next trip when the new novelty had worn off and she was now just a Sosua trick. Eventually an Italian dude married her and moved her away.[/QUOTE]Good times! LOL! I remember the owners son had a smoking hot novia! But after the owner died h never came back. LOL. A few of the chicas from 4 Rose's, cucu bar, and Europa are in the states now.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2366662]Good times! LOL! I remember the owners son had a smoking hot novia! But after the owner died h never came back. LOL. A few of the chicas from 4 Rose's, cucu bar, and Europa are in the states now.[/QUOTE]The owners son was something else. He would snatch one of the girls to the back and they would be gone 30 minutes. When the girls came back they always looked pissed so I can imagine what kind of devious shit he was doing to them.
One time one of the girls had me translating messages coming from her boyfriend in the states and dude snatched her to the back again. When she returned she immediately checked her phone and her eyes lit up. He had left six messages and she wanted me to translate to him that the service was bad and it was raining so she missed the call. I could no longer do it. I would translate what he was saying but not be apart of her schemes especially when the cum was still in her mouth.
Miss and was 19,100 pondd, hair to her back and cute face. She was my girl at one time but I would later find out she was one of the biggest tricks in Sosua. Well she disappeared for 5 years and one day I walked into la sierta in SD. At the Claro booth was Miss and working but I didn't recognize her. She yelled my name and I was happy to see her thinking we would pick up from the old days. She said no amd she are was now a church girl and doesn't go out after 8 pm. She also had an American boyfriend in the states. I love Latin women but you have to look past their past because if you find out it would really surprise you.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2366578]Don't think I'll return to Sosua without Rumbas.[/QUOTE]I feel you. Even though Rumbas was kind of dying out before its closure, the loss of Rumbas was a major hit on the scene. For newbies and those that didn't get to experience it at its height, the current version of Sosua is still probably a mongering paradise. I haven't been to Sosua in awhile but the last few times I went it was pretty much solely to enjoy the beach and see a few friends I have there. I enjoyed Sosua much more when it was still under the radar and not all over Youtube and the internet. Savvy people realize you throw something up on youtube or the Net and 100 new people show up tomorrow and so on and so on. Then down the road the dummies wonder how an area that had few gringos got flooded with gringos and their interests.
Nothing reflects better on a nature of Sos, than this article:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5657&article=1[/URL]
4 September 2019.
Reorganization of the beach still an illusion.
"In June 2013 a plan was launched for a reorganization of the beach of Sosa. This after a visit to Francisco Javier Garca the Minister of Tourism in Santo Domingo. Present were among others Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosa, Mr. Pastoriza (chairman ADSS) and the then director of Tourism, Lorenzo Sancasani. In this meeting the minister was presented with the reorganization plan of the beach of Sosa.
In this plan, at least 300 sellers on the beach would be removed. At both ends of the beach (El Batey and Charamicos) there were shopping centers with parking facilities to be constructed. There should be created a total of 250 shops. There was also a plan for a sports center. The minister thought that widening the thoroughfare from Puerto Plata along Sosa and Cabarete would increase the number of tourists to Sosa beach. The minister believed that the construction of the cruise ship terminal in Maimon would also bring more tourists to Sosa. In any case, the beach would no longer be accessible to the itinerant trade. The minister promised to speed up the implementation of the plan and he thought that work on redesigning the beach could begin at the end of September 2013. After this announcement, a lot of resistance and unrest arose among the trinkets sellers on the beach. We are now in September 2019, so 6 years later, and so far none of these plans have been implemented. ".
[QUOTE=Questner;2367399]Nothing reflects better on a nature of Sos, than this article:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5657&article=1[/URL]
4 September 2019.
Reorganization of the beach still an illusion.
"In June 2013 a plan was launched for a reorganization of the beach of Sosa. This after a visit to Francisco Javier Garca the Minister of Tourism in Santo Domingo. Present were among others Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosa, Mr. Pastoriza (chairman ADSS) and the then director of Tourism, Lorenzo Sancasani. In this meeting the minister was presented with the reorganization plan of the beach of Sosa.
In this plan, at least 300 sellers on the beach would be removed. At both ends of the beach (El Batey and Charamicos) there were shopping centers with parking facilities to be constructed. There should be created a total of 250 shops..[/QUOTE]Classico closed down per presidential order.
I had a fav chica who stepped out of su for a year. She had an American bro who she locked down. This girl has moto bike she was known for. She looked like gabriel union and fucked like a porn star. I saw her as I was leaving the su. Can not wait to get with her again.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2369109]I had a fav chica who stepped out of su for a year. She had an American bro who she locked down. This girl has moto bike she was known for. She looked like gabriel union and fucked like a porn star. I saw her as I was leaving the su. Can not wait to get with her again.[/QUOTE]Any photos? Pleaseeeeee!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2369143]Any photos? Pleaseeeeee!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]You are kidding, right?
From a poster that does not post photos, but yet, asking others to post photos?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2369109]I had a fav chica who stepped out of su for a year. She had an American bro who she locked down. This girl has moto bike she was known for. She looked like gabriel union and fucked like a porn star. I saw her as I was leaving the su. Can not wait to get with her again.[/QUOTE]I know who you mean I'm headed back in a few weeks hope her number is the same.
Booked flights on Jet Blue today, I'm be in Sosua the day after tomorrow; Thursday. Saturday.
Been at least 3 years since I've been; not sure what to expect but hope to have a good time.
Strawberry blond hair; 6'4" White NYer 51 years old; hard to miss.
Haven't booked a place yet, probably stay at Terra Linda.
Coming by myself which is unusual, say Hello, if you'the like.
Not sure if there will be any girls around or not. But I need to get away.
Chris.
[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2369254]Booked flights on Jet Blue today, I'm be in Sosua the day after tomorrow; Thursday. Saturday.
Been at least 3 years since I've been; not sure what to expect but hope to have a good time.
Strawberry blond hair; 6'4" White NYer 51 years old; hard to miss.
Haven't booked a place yet, probably stay at Terra Linda.
Coming by myself which is unusual, say Hello, if you'the like.
Not sure if there will be any girls around or not. But I need to get away.
Chris.[/QUOTE]OK Chris. There are many rumors going around now about Sosua so we will look forward to your on the ground reports. I'm in SD next week but Grownman said a Sosua jaunt is out of the question so your update is valuable. Thanks in advance.
Many people have said business as usual, but they want to end prostitution on Pedro and city center of Sosua. That is a big change and they are doing it now:
Announcement of relocation of catering industry.
On Friday 6 September a meeting was held with the business people of Sosúa in the main hall of the town hall. In particular, the meeting was intended for those business people who run a hospitality business in the main street, Pedro Clisante.
Announcement of relocation of catering industry.
Announcement of relocation of catering industry.
Present were Jean Alain Rodríguez, Attorney General of the Republic and Ilana Neumann, the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa. The mayor said that more than a year ago the everyone received a resolution in which hospitality business people were given a year to move their business to the end of the Pedro Clisante or to change it. So change the bar to a restaurant for example. The mayor announced that she would soon implement the resolution. The idea is that prostitution will disappear from the center of Sosua. The mayor also said that it is not intended to harm business people. But with these measures Sosua becomes more attractive for family tourism and for tourists who come for the nightlife.
I get there tomorrow am. Will report back.
It may be a bust; at least compared to.
The standard of a few years ago. Unfortunately I don't have any girl contacts; if anyone can refer a 20 some tall slim chick preferably Haitian, I'the be much obliged. I will be a gentleman and she'll appreciate your referral.
CBD.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2369267]OK Chris. There are many rumors going around now about Sosua so we will look forward to your on the ground reports. I'm in SD next week but Grownman said a Sosua jaunt is out of the question so your update is valuable. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Revere;2368843]Classico closed down per presidential order.[/QUOTE]No more Classico? Any remote thoughts I had for visiting the Su are now out the window.
I have trip planned in 3 weeks. Classicos is the last anchor in sosua. This could be a game changer. I am hoping this not the case.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2369461]No more Classico? Any remote thoughts I had for visiting the Su are now out the window.[/QUOTE]
Classicos still kicking. Not done yet.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2369571]Classicos still kicking. Not done yet.[/QUOTE]It's over. Plan accordingly.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Junior.olatv/videos/10157867799813338/[/URL]
You have to listen what she is saying. Nothing has been done or can be done. The mayoress has no money, no power and will be out of office soon, and I wish her all the best. She may have good intentions in mind. Even acting illegally they can't do shit.
I have said many times that the more is said the less is done, that's how things are in SOS.
Somehow when we read (let's say most of us) read or hear statements, or speeches we tend to accept them at face value. For example, if the mayoress says so and so, we think she actually means it, or has a personal interest or inner intention to follow through or has an agenda or a plan. Indeed? It may be just expedient or viewed nicely in the eyes of her bosses or constituents. Ok, there is a meeting, bla-bla-bla, water and cookies served. When the meeting on this particular topic is held it does not necessarily mean all the participants and organizers are genuinely behind the idea.
[QUOTE=Questner;2369681][URL]https://www.facebook.com/Junior.olatv/videos/10157867799813338/[/URL]
You have to listen what she is saying. Nothing has been done or can be done. The mayoress has no money, no power and will be out of office soon, and I wish her all the best. She may have good intentions in mind. Even acting illegally they can't do shit.
I have said many times that the more is said the less is done, that's how things are in SOS.
Somehow when we read (let's say most of us) read or hear statements, or speeches we tend to accept them at face value. For example, if the mayoress says so and so, we think she actually means it, or has a personal interest or inner intention to follow through or has an agenda or a plan. Indeed? It may be just expedient or viewed nicely in the eyes of her bosses or constituents. Ok, there is a meeting, bla-bla-bla, water and cookies served. When the meeting on this particular topic is held it does not necessarily mean all the participants and organizers are genuinely behind the idea.[/QUOTE]Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.
[QUOTE=Revere;2369865]Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.[/QUOTE]The absolute worst months to visit Sosua (if there is one) are August and September. These are the slowest moths of the year. Last couple of years they really use this period to flex their muscles. Come November the streets will be back to normal and police will slack off and let that holiday money start flowing again.
[QUOTE=Revere;2369865]Stop through last weekend. I had a drink at bourbon during the day. Streets empty with zero action and two women police standing out in front of bourbon. Never seen it controlled like that. Did not appear to just be talk, but action. Classico was crowded at night, but quality way down. What am I missing.[/QUOTE]Could I respectfully suggest that in the Low season, and Sosua's slowest month of the year, and an empty street, you'd notice the two cops standing there?
In the High season, before Christmas and the Superbowl, the streets and bars are crowded, and the streets are crawling with cops, but you don't really notice them.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2369989]Could I respectfully suggest that in the Low season, and Sosua's slowest month of the year, and an empty street, you'd notice the two cops standing there?
In the High season, before Christmas and the Superbowl, the streets and bars are crowded, and the streets are crawling with cops, but you don't really notice them.[/QUOTE]I have been going for years and never seen streets so deserted and chicks so afraid to come. This might explain it. We always talked about cruise ship passengers that never came, but how will Pedro fit in with putas and these new hotels:
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2019/09/12/coming-to-sosua-3-high-end-hotels-of-us350m-2000-jobs/[/URL]
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2369970]The absolute worst months to visit Sosua (if there is one) are August and September. These are the slowest moths of the year. Last couple of years they really use this period to flex their muscles. Come November the streets will be back to normal and police will slack off and let that holiday money start flowing again.[/QUOTE]I was in the zoo in August only because it was my boys birthday weekend. Despite fumbles and basically no street activity, the Sue did what she was supposed to do. The guys enjoyed the time.
I'm currently in the DR, however I'm going to give the Sue a break. IMHO you are right this is low activity time. The city needs to feel a financial strain, then they will be ready to deal or not deal with situation at hand.
I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.
I'm sure I'm not the only BM who scarfs wings at Flip Flop restaurant in Sosua. Here's what the owner wrote earlier today:
CLOSED for Business. The end of Sosua.
On: Today at 09:09:08 AM.
Now that I have your attention.
Is there a retard virus spreading in the US? You guys are utterly ridiculous. Sosua is not closing and your "Reliable" Sources of Hooker, drug dealers and motoconchos don't know shit.
First the Meeting.
- This meeting was conducted because the mayor wanted to notify everyone that once she made the Call about the move. Only one business signed the paperwork to move. Basically the others said "Fuck off".
She was asking for an agreement and resolution.
The reality is she can't legally do anything but she wants to. IMO, She probably owns that plaza that is still not built and wants a money run.
If you pay any attention, the only places mentioned are Flow, Rumba and Classico. The places WE like. If the strip closes tomorrow there will be a super campaign to get your boo at the plaza. So please use common sense.
The worst part about this entire thing is WE are the ones spreading it. It seems like you want Sosua to die. Us and Only US are spreading this fear that shit is changing.
And guys are canceling due to what their peoples are telling them.
A good friend of mine, said just like this on Sunday -.
No Hookers, No moto, My Man is in front of classico right now and it is closed. Done. I read the message and sent him a video of the 10 k bottle of Grey Goose I was drinking while partying at the exact moment he sent the message.
Monday I was told Merengue is closed and I was sitting at the bar.
Like WTF. If your not here then shut up. And stop listening to the streets. Chics saying shit bad while they twerking in the club.
My frustration is from the Million and one messages and text when I am actually outside. I kind of want the shit to close so all of you can be happy and we can move on.
Nothing is closing. If you think city hall is sharing info with hookers and motos then your an idiot. NO ONE knows because city hall still has no plan.
They are rounding girls up "sometimes" to give a sense of power.
You guys made gave popeyes 30 millions dollars for a damn chicken sandwich and your putting that same energy into killing sosua.
Sosua is only dying in your tex messages, whatsapp groups and facebook groups.
Nothing is closing, No business men in Sosua are worried. No one has any secret info about closures because it does not exist.
8 years and I have been right. You guys with the fear crap are killing the town. Meanwhile everyone who is here is having a ball. The lies are killing me because someone always got a friend here but I can't never find them.
I'm blowing my bread hanging out and being told shit is closed.
Cancel ya damn trip.
This is actually becoming pathetic how we spread rumors like old ladies in church. Not one source on the street, or anywhere has any info.
Because city hall has no direct plan. 8 years she been wanting shit moved. 8 years its till going and even stronger now (High season returns).
We went from a serial killer in resorts to the strip. You guys with the rumors and you guys alone are killing this place. I have been out 7 days straight and shit been like the old days.
Tuesday was real slow but its Tuesday- Merengue was still packed.
When the shit finally closes as most of you seem to want, I will advise ASAP so you can be happy.
That is all.
[QUOTE=DriveAllNight;2370079]I'm sure I'm not the only BM who scarfs wings at Flip Flop restaurant in Sosua. Here's what the owner wrote earlier today:
That is all.[/QUOTE]New guy here. Was planning a trip down to Sosua since I can't remember for this fall.
A few weeks ago, I though I had missed out of my luck reading that September and October were usually slow months and that on top of that, the city was putting strict regulation on the sex scene down there.
In doubt, I even cancelled my plane flight and thought I'd try another place instead.
Now with the last message stating this it's all in people's head and nothing's happening. I'm in serious doubt about who to believe at this point.
Exactly, words of wisdom from FF. By the way, no hotels are coming; these rumours resurface once in two-four years and then disappear.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2370070]I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.[/QUOTE]Ok, lets hear what the reports are like November / December. I'll finally make up my mind then for my January / February trip - the Sue or Montreal.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2370070]I have been going for 8 years high and low. I was on ground 2 weeks ago. This is totally different. They are enforceing a zero tolerance policy. No chicas on the street during day light ours. This not normal low season. While the mayor has little power she does have the ear of the police and military. These fascist do not play. I am not a doom and gloom guy. However the changes are serious. When they break things it is hard to put them back. The locals seem to think the sky is falling.[/QUOTE]Relax OK.
You can still get all the cheap beautiful young fresh pussy you want in Sosua!
It will remain so as long as freelance prostitution is legal.
Only if they make solicitation illegal, or the cops start hassling clients, will it really change. I'm here and I don't see that happening! CESTOUR is still waving at the mongers.
It's always been hit and miss for the average casual monger, depending on time of day, day of week, and month of year!
The High Season, November to through March will be a better indicator of what's going on, not hurricane season!
Has it changed? What hasn't in the last 10 years? LOL.
Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "[URL]Dominicantoday.com[/URL]". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection. These are the new hotels that will be built under that investment. Of course it remains to be seen if in fact it will come to pass. This might be one reason the Cestur is harassing the the local folks on the street. Prostitution is LEGAL, so why do they hassle the girls? Your guess is as good as mine.
Sosua is what it is and I have been going for years and still do and plan to continue to do so. There are slow seasons and high seasons but you can always find what you are looking for no matter what time of year it is. Some days are just better than others. What they fail to realize is that we are the financial backbone of that town. Are they trying to send us a message? I wonder what the real strategy is and what they want to happen. Looks to me like they are sending a message to stay away. But the chicas are resilient and won't stop the business anytime soon in my opinion. But for sure come November the streets will be packed as their Christmas season begins and the tourist head back to Sosua to beat the cold.
Take care my brothers and don't worry to much about these crackdowns. FYI, this article is on Youtube by the "Educated Traveler" if you care to search it out. They are stifling tourism.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2370342]Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "[URL]Dominicantoday.com[/URL]". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection.[/QUOTE]In the comments someone was saying that was a rumor about Cabarete, not Sosua. I seriously doubt the veracity of any of that. Those smart companies are not going to build shit in the middle of nowhere that hardly anybody goes. Besides that, where would they even put them? You think one of these brands would even build a kiosk on Pedro Clisante? Somebody was even talking about the empty frames overgrown with weeds of places that thought they were going to build things there in days past. Any smart normal tourist is going to be on the east coast; the north is a has been.
I just try to give you real information. Classico officially closed down today. I know people keep saying business as usual, but it is not. Make your calls. I will not spread false rumors.
Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. So if anyone is on the ground please send us the latest update to confirm this is what is happening or just another rumor. Crazy!
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2370409]Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. So if anyone is on the ground please send us the latest update to confirm this is what is happening or just another rumor. Crazy!
Peace,[/QUOTE]I am standing outside right now, closed.
Bars are jam packed, not one single girl walking the beat, not one. Cops are fucking everywhere. Thank god for my Puerto Plata girlies via Facebook. Doesn't change my life one bit, my dance card is full.
Right, The Ritz in Sos, what kind of dope is that; these tales resurface once in couple years.
[QUOTE=Questner;2370459]Right, The Ritz in Sos, what kind of dope is that; these tales resurface once in couple years.[/QUOTE]The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.
I have been going to Sosua since 2011 and it has changed somewhat as I saw in August this year, with few women on the prowl and I mentioned even a policewoman chasing a poor girl trying to hide inside a store. The fact of the matter is that, for me, it changes nothing. I still find the place interesting with its small footprint, expat population and accordingly, good restaurants. The women? They all come to you. So whoever is reading this, especially the US crowd who seem to be more into story telling or wondering, can plan ahead and, what with google translate, it is a no-brainer even for the language challenged. The sky is not falling!
P.S: I will back there for another weekend, hopefully soon and then there is Christmas time amid warm weather.
In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.
I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.
Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2370468]The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE]Instead, found nothing more than internet rumors here and there, but I'll eat crow if I'and wrong. However, if I'm not wrong, rumors happen for a reason. Someone wants to convince someone else that something is more valuable than it is and that something big is about to unfold. If you've read Jack London you know what might happen next. It's gold, baby! LOL!
Seriously, Marriott would have to lose more than a few screws to open their top luxury hotel in the town of Cabaret or anywhere on the North Coast for that matter. It's just pure insanity. Moxy maybe.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2370409]Well fellows just got some word from a brother on the ground that Classicos has closed. The owner decided to do it himself for whatever reasons I do not know. I just got a message saying that he voluntarily closed both upstairs and Merrange Bar to avoid harassment. It was opened last night but today it is closed. I do have any other conformation of whether this true or not so I am reaching to you brothers to confirm that this is truly the case. Everything else is opened except for that. [/QUOTE]What everything else? LOL!
If the streets are dead, and Classico / Merengue is dead, there is nothing else anymore, is there?
City Lights?
Fun times.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2370472]I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. [b]Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay.[/b] Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas.[/QUOTE]No. It is actually like the east coast American guys have done in Sosua!
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2370342]Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. You can check it out on "[URL]Dominicantoday.com[/URL]". They are talking about a new W Hotel, The Ritz Carlton Reserve, and The Luxury Collection. These are the new hotels that will be built under that investment. Of course it remains to be seen if in fact it will come to pass. This might be one reason the Cestur is harassing the the local folks on the street. Prostitution is LEGAL, so why do they hassle the girls? Your guess is as good as mine.
Sosua is what it is and I have been going for years and still do and plan to continue to do so. There are slow seasons and high seasons but you can always find what you are looking for no matter what time of year it is. Some days are just better than others. What they fail to realize is that we are the financial backbone of that town. Are they trying to send us a message? I wonder what the real strategy is and what they want to happen. Looks to me like they are sending a message to stay away. But the chicas are resilient and won't stop the business anytime soon in my opinion. But for sure come November the streets will be packed as their Christmas season begins and the tourist head back to Sosua to beat the cold.[/QUOTE]Anybody in their right mind who researches Sosua as a mongering destination is going to be put off going because of the crackdown going on there.
[QUOTE=Revere;2368843]Classico closed down per presidential order.[/QUOTE]Whatever happened to [B][i]THIS[/i][/B] report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2370482]Instead, found nothing more than internet rumors here and there, but I'll eat crow if I'and wrong. However, if I'm not wrong, rumors happen for a reason. Someone wants to convince someone else that something is more valuable than it is and that something big is about to unfold. If you've read Jack London you know what might happen next. It's gold, baby! LOL!
Seriously, Marriott would have to lose more than a few screws to open their top luxury hotel in the town of Cabaret or anywhere on the North Coast for that matter. It's just pure insanity. Moxy maybe.[/QUOTE]Direct from El Presidente's website:
[URL]https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jsk[/URL]
I was told this was coming and the video of the mayors meeting with brass was real. She was very confident. This a slap in the face of the brothers. The place supplied girls music and drinks we liked. This is where the weekend warriors posted. Most of these guys speak no spanish and have very little game because they did not need to develope it. The businesses that we supported will suffer greatly. SU aint dead but she is on life support. I see nothing filling the void. Baileys and all those eating spots are going to die very soon. I will be on the ground in 2 weeks but I may spend more time in SD with my regulars. The last time Classicos closed De latins opened we did not miss a beat. A bussiness owner informed me that everything else was open but Classicos. At the end of the day we only see the tip of the iceberg, There are movers and shakers pulling the string and we aint them. All we can do is wait and see what fills the vacum. Action could move to Puerto Plata or Caberetti
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2370342]Dominican Today is running an article regarding the North Coast new development of 3 new high end hotels slated for Sosua with a US $350 million investment creating 2000 new jobs. ............[/QUOTE]Different jobs for our girlfriends?
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2370472]In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.
I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.
Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Check all reports on ISG, P4P is declining all over the world. The only exception is the USA. Adjust accordingly.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2370565]Whatever happened to [B][i]THIS[/i][/B] report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?[/QUOTE]Nothing suspect went to the top. Look at when I said classico was being shut down and all the commentary of why it would not happen. Now do you really believe out of the blue classico closes down voluntarily. You believe that you fall for anything. Your information is suspect that it closed down on its own.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2370582]Direct from El Presidente's website:
[URL]https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jsk[/URL][/QUOTE]"Aqui podemos transformar completamente la costa norte, como un destino de lujo y estamos contentos".
LOL. Now that I will believe when I see. So many sprawling luxury resorts out east where it is also cheaper to fly to. Nobody is trying to go to a cooped up hotel along a two-lane DR-5 no matter how luxurious it is.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2370565]Whatever happened to [B][i]THIS[/i][/B] report that you provided a few days ago? Where did that information come from? Clearly that info is suspect. In subsequent days / nights after that presidential order, guys were reporting that both places were open. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Willie voluntarily close both of them today or yesterday? Which is it? Presidential order or voluntary?[/QUOTE]Obvious I had news that you did not know and it was not fake. Go back and look at my time line. Now, on Froday one of classico's busiest nights that would shut down voluntarily. That makes sense to you that is was there decision. Let it go.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2370596]Action could move to Puerto Plata ...[/QUOTE]Yeah! Great, ain't it?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2370596]I will be on the ground in 2 weeks but I may spend more time in SD with my regulars.[/QUOTE]They said they are expecting you to step your game up this time Old Kool. They are tired of those 4th-hand vibrators you have been giving out.
Stepped my game up. I now use a majic wand product from amazon. The reviews have been very good. The casino near Dulce Secreto has a very nice disco. Rumbas and Bourbon st could benefit from thse changes. Both are in compliance being restaurants and coincidetially Afro American owned and like wise Envie is in a good location for the futur.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2370659]They said they are expecting you to step your game up this time Old Kool. They are tired of those 4th-hand vibrators you have been giving out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2370472]In Sosua next weekend for 10 days. Not changing my plans. Screw the mayor, Been going since 2011. Use to find skinny good looking girls at 1:30 to 2 am. Between 2011-2014 in Classico. But times have change. You just have to make adjustments. The girls will find us. They need the money.
I go to Angeles 120 days a year. Use to be cheap 10-20 years ago. The usual guy would stay two weeks. Now its like two or three days. Not cheap anymore because the Korean can fly down for the weekend and don't care what they pay. Its like Southern California guys spending all their money in Vegas. I have made my adjustments. Current barfine (no negotiation, flat rate in bar) it is 3000-3500 p (52 to the dollar). Plus 500 p tip plus they want one or two drinks at 300 p per drink. It like 4000 p total $80 US and you have a 50/50 chance of short time. I made my adjustments. 1500 p out of the disco (tip is 100 p for trike) and 1200 plus tip (300 to 500) out of three short time bars. Trips are 30 days and I end up with around 30 different girls. Girls I get are sevens. Made my adjustments why the tourist and Korean pay the top prices. Plus some of the star? Girls want 4000 p instead of 3500 p.
Casinos?? City Lights? Beach??Eating places the girl go to?? Adjustments and adapting in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Facts! I'll be down in two weeks and I'm not worried. I've built a pretty nice WhatsApp team. Many on the north coast. I've already have chicas lined up. It may be a little boring, but I won't lack for chicas. The writing has been on the wall for a couple of years that change was coming. My espanol is decent, which helps.
As far as the game moving, it may. I'm sure you'll see more chicas in Puerto Plata and caberete. But in my opinion the overall theme is they want it low key. So if bourbon st or rumba gets to busy their probably going to feel the heat. Build your contacts gentlemen!
I've been seeing more and more families and non mongers the last 2 years or so. But not in the numbers they want. Point is the north coast was a cheap trip, with snowbirds on a budget who put money into the economy. We were the icing on the cake. I really don't think they can turn into punta cana, but apparently they do. I'll be good either way! Peace and happy travels to all!
Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.
Just got taxt that Classicos is open toight.
[QUOTE=Revere;2370733]Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2370468]The Ritz is going to be at La Boca in Cabarete. The Gansevoort is currently being renovated and is going to be another one of the Marriott high end Hotels. The third hotel is another renovation of a closed property in Cabarete, the name escapes me. Google it. Questner these aren't rumor, these projects were announced by Marriott themselves, its happening. And these are all 200-800 dollar a night rooms, again Google it if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE]We shall see. The more rooms the more hookers in town.
[QUOTE=Revere;2370733]Negotiations have been going on since yesterday to reopen classico. We will see what happens.[/QUOTE]Yeah, cash bids only, LOL.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2370755]Just got taxt that Classicos is open toight.[/QUOTE]They are open, I just drove by.
Just a guess. Since the mayor wants the bars moved. The owner keep the downstairs bar closed and he open Classico. Since you basically cannot see into Classico from the street. But only a guess.
Since Classico open. Did the bar down below open.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2370582]Direct from El Presidente's website:
[URL]https://presidencia.gob.do/noticias/inversionistas-presentan-al-presidente-danilo-medina-proyecto-de-turismo-de-lujo-en-puerto?fbclid=IwAR2Yb6jcItkKpsZqGWPVp0ExWqWEC-6c7w9QhNRgoQtCUmPG2dYT4Yq0jsk[/URL][/QUOTE]Look, no problem, I'll eat crow as I promised if it doesn't fail to materialize. The reason why I don't think it will materialize is that I've seen Cabaret. And I'm sure you have too. I mean, even after 3-4 Cuba Libres, even if you close your eyes and let your imagination run wild, you won't see that place attracting the kind of crowd Marriott would want for its top brands. Also, I haven't found anything about Cabaret or DR's North Coast for that matter in Marriott's own press releases. Bloomberg reports Marriott's plans for Punta Cana -- again, not a word about Cabaret or Puerto Plata. I don't know, I guess, we'll see. Really, who cares, though.
[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-05/marriott-jumps-into-all-inclusive-resorts-with-ritz-carlton-deal[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2370471]I have been going to Sosua since 2011 and it has changed somewhat as I saw in August this year, with few women on the prowl and I mentioned even a policewoman chasing a poor girl trying to hide inside a store. The fact of the matter is that, for me, it changes nothing. I still find the place interesting with its small footprint, expat population and accordingly, good restaurants. The women? They all come to you. So whoever is reading this, especially the US crowd who seem to be more into story telling or wondering, can plan ahead and, what with google translate, it is a no-brainer even for the language challenged. The sky is not falling!
P.S: I will back there for another weekend, hopefully soon and then there is Christmas time amid warm weather.[/QUOTE]C'mon down The sky hasn't fell yet!
Sosua has always been a PR problem for the local officials who are charged with public safety and law and order.
Sosua main street at night is basically an unregulated brothel, where on a busy night a tourist can't even walk down Pedro without been accosted, swarmed and even physically groped by hard core hookers. Unlicensed motoconchos ignore basic traffic rules and are a continual public safety hazard. Not many places in the world where this state of affairs is tolerated on it's main street.
This has made Sosua notorious as a sex destination attracting hordes of mongers and their money. The reality is that the whole town depends on this business to keep the hotels rooms and restaurants filled.
To some like me, the lack of regulation is a refreshing change from the nanny states I have lived in. Aside from all the available women, a visitor can enjoy a smoke with his coffee or beer, buy fresh home cooked street food from the locals or the guy with an oil drum BBQ on the empty lot across the street, or hop a moto to the supermarket for a buck.
But there has to be some controls and so they do what they can to satisfy everybody.
They see the solution, not as banning prostitution, but trying to decentralize it.
There are a still quite a few fairly large bars up the side streets that were once thriving, but are now derelict because they couldn't compete with Classico, Rumba and D'Latin. So it seems feasible to move the red light action away from main street.
Ahmvi is doing well, still has party nights and monger pool parties away from the in your face street action, and some of the outer bars and restaurants are doing ok.
The changes will affect some mongers who like to get a cheap hotel room, buy cheap beer from the colmado, and pluck a cheap hooker from the street, but meeting a well dressed and well behaved chica in a bar, maybe a little music and dancing, might bring a little more of that old time traditional romance back to the scene.
Just my two cents!
Google search did not help.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2370894]
Ahmvi is doing well, still has party nights and monger pool parties away from the in your face street action, and some of the outer bars and restaurants are doing ok.
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[QUOTE=Bliadun;2370919]Google search did not help.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.ahnveeresort.com/[/URL]
Prices are on par with BB. Do they have chicas on site or this is only a chica friendly hotel? What are the pool parties like? Do they have something like a bikini contest?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2370930][URL]http://www.ahnveeresort.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2370943]Prices are on par with BB. Do they have chicas on site or this is only a chica friendly hotel? What are the pool parties like? Do they have something like a bikini contest?[/QUOTE]No BB, that's for sure, it's a 3 star all inclusive newer hotel. I understand you can bring in a guest for the day and only pay for what she eats and drinks!
Never stayed there but been over there for their Superbowl party and a couple of afternoons as a guest. No official bikini contests, but the pool BBQ parties are loud and fun, with a lot of local chicas showing their wares. I did get propositioned and was tempted, but I had no room there.
YMMV.
Booked ticket Tuesday morning of this week; flew down Jet Blue Thursday am; back Sat pm. JB systems down in POP so literally waited for 2 hours on line to check in back to JFK. Bummer!
I was pleasantly surprised by the number and variety of girls. I went down thinking it would be be somewhat lame, but that wasn't the case. Never made in to the beach, the gym or even beyond a 3 block radius of Rumba (now rebranded King's).
I can't speak to late night activities because I was nestled in bed with my choice for the evening by 10:30 both nights.
4 girls in 2 days; one a Dominican massage girl across the street from Casa Valeria (where I stayed in a very nice, clean ground level room overlooking the pool - 2 nights including breakfast for $150).
2nd girl a 5'10 gorgeous 1/2 Haïtian 1/2 Dominican stunner named Carmen with an initially good attitude. I would have happily wife'the up with her, but you guys know the drill; afternoon get together become a quickie bc she needs to go do that this or the other. Complete opposite of Kenya where getting them to leave is the challenge.
She had great head game BTW.
3rd a petite Dominican with great pert boobs; typical commercial sex; pleasant but rough hand job to try and warm me up with a bored look on her face. Softer baby softer!
4th and final was a Haïtian girl a month in town. Slim and fit with gigantic boobs, but the bra concealed the baby damage. BF left her in the 7th month of her pregnancy 😬. Too bad she didn't go formula for my selfish needs! Ha!
She spoke no English at all. But was all over me in a sweet way from the word go at Bar Central. Haïtians are just sweeter and more affectionate than Dominicans; She didn't disappoint in the room either, biggest wet spot I've seen, a throughly drenched, soaked 2 x 4 feet. Lovely! But such an innocent; wanted me to meet her brother and sister in Puerto Plata the next day; through google translate wrote about how I could be with her going forward. Clearly she was looking to be 'saved' - my motivations were much simple; more carnal and certainly didn't involve meeting her family. I was overly generous with her; mostly out of guilt and because I won't miss the 4500 pesos (spare me about destroying in market) - it might mean helping her baby that much more.
So that's it fellas. The view at Kings at 6 pm Friday night was mind blowing; girls of all shapes and sizes. Obesity has made its way to the DR but that's not slowing these girls down; flaunted big T&A all over the place! More hard core ones that I like, but let's face it, that's how it's been for the 10+ years. Sosua isn't for the sweet girl; it's to sport fuck.
I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2370950]No BB, that's for sure, it's a 3 star all inclusive newer hotel. I understand you can bring in a guest for the day and only pay for what she eats and drinks!
Never stayed there but been over there for their Superbowl party and a couple of afternoons as a guest. No official bikini contests, but the pool BBQ parties are loud and fun, with a lot of local chicas showing their wares. I did get propositioned and was tempted, but I had no room there.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2371011]I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.[/QUOTE]You might want to rethink that. If you read back you will see that a lot of Dominicans and Haitians are not as willing to go into the water as you may think they are.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2371011]I will plan a visit to this hotel. Their room with mini pool gave me some ideas to try with a couple of chicas LOL.[/QUOTE]Rooms in this ahnee resort is close to $200 per night. At that rate it better be girl or girls friendly. Last time I drove inside there to check it out. There were few western couples staying there. Not sure if they will allow open cajoling. It certainly did not seem like a brothel compared to Blackbeards.
Booked a vacation for Veterans Day weekend. Hopefully things would have settled down by then regarding bars and chicas. I usually rent a car and not restricted to Sosua. I can get girls from Puerto Plata if things are tough in Sosua.
They only care about not getting their hairs wet. Underwater BJ could be an issue.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2371016]You might want to rethink that. If you read back you will see that a lot of Dominicans and Haitians are not as willing to go into the water as you may think they are.[/QUOTE]
Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2371018]Rooms in this ahnee resort is close to $200 per night. At that rate it better be girl or girls friendly. Last time I drove inside there to check it out. There were few western couples staying there. Not sure if they will allow open cajoling. It certainly did not seem like a brothel compared to Blackbeards.
Booked a vacation for Veterans Day weekend. Hopefully things would have settled down by then regarding bars and chicas. I usually rent a car and not restricted to Sosua. I can get girls from Puerto Plata if things are tough in Sosua.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2371021]Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.[/QUOTE]That's the going rate for a decent room, (they have no beach, otherwise it would be a 4 star) . But they have 3 kinds of suites, and they may try to upsell you to a bigger room. But its all good value.
All the times I was there the place was full of mongers and their chicas, and big families of partying Dominicans.
And yes most Dominicanas love the water, the pools and the beaches. The exception is the short time hooker, who might not even want to get completely undressed for a ST session! LOL.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2371021]Starts from US $65. Maybe taxes would be added later.[/QUOTE]For some reason it says $195 all inclusive. But on Agoda I just booked for three nights executive suite for $170 November. This price includes breakfasts. I had booked at Alicia hotel but they sent me a e mail saying they need to cancel. I guess they are closing for good.
Hope Ahnee resort is still open on my dates. Not much worried about Chicas. I can get them from anywhere because I will have a rental car.
[QUOTE=Revere;2370609]Nothing suspect went to the top. Look at when I said classico was being shut down and all the commentary of why it would not happen. Now do you really believe out of the blue classico closes down voluntarily. You believe that you fall for anything. Your information is suspect that it closed down on its own.[/QUOTE]Sir, I quoted what you wrote. You said Classico closed down by presidential order. Not that it was being shut down. Closed and being shutdown is two different things. One is the present, the other presumes at some future time. Subsequently, you posted something else. A direct contradiction with each other. Thats why I asked, what happened to the presidential order that was enforced to close Classico? Do you know or you don't know? If a presidential order was enforced what did the owners need to do to lift the closing order?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2370894]To some like me, the lack of regulation is a refreshing change from the nanny states I have lived in. Aside from all the available women, a visitor can enjoy a smoke with his coffee or beer, buy fresh home cooked street food from the locals or the guy with an oil drum BBQ on the empty lot across the street, or hop a moto to the supermarket for a buck.
There are a still quite a few fairly large bars up the side streets that were once thriving, but are now derelict because they couldn't compete with Classico, Rumba and D'Latin. So it seems feasible to move the red light action away from main street.[/QUOTE]I like you, find it refreshing, not to speak of smoking a cigar after an expresso. I have walked the street at the end of a meal hundreds of times and rarely have I been accosted even though definitely propositioned which can be answered with a simple " No Gracias" - at least I did. I also would like to remind you of places like the Patpong in Bangkok or the Reeparbahn, in Hamburg which are much more raucous etc.
Sosua has built its name not on family tourism that I know of but now, US and puritan money perhaps is trying to have the Dominicans sit up and wonder if they can have the Benjamins by "cleaning up". Shame they are too puny, unlike the Germans and the Dutch to say "no".
Enough of speculation because the fact is, I do not have access to any plan and I, personally do not care, as long as the island remains unchanged. Hopefully it will.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2371147]For some reason it says $195 all inclusive. But on Agoda I just booked for three nights executive suite for $170 November. This price includes breakfasts. I had booked at Alicia hotel but they sent me a e mail saying they need to cancel. I guess they are closing for good.
Hope Ahnee resort is still open on my dates. Not much worried about Chicas. I can get them from anywhere because I will have a rental car.[/QUOTE]I stayed there once, even wrote a report, but then I got logged out, probably hit a wrong button, pfff, it's gone. I posted it here first, but I'm going to cut and paste it properly in the hotel section. Check it there if you're interested.
I was there yesterday, it was open and had a bunch of chicas. I did not see so much harassment from the police with street walkers.
[QUOTE=Brugs;2372690]I was there yesterday, it was open and had a bunch of chicas. I did not see so much harassment from the police with street walkers.[/QUOTE]Good to know I'm heading out there next week Wednesday, I was wondering how bad it might be when I got there compared to my previous trips.
At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.
Or it was really no the type I like.
[QUOTE=TruLife;2373042]Good to know I'm heading out there next week Wednesday, I was wondering how bad it might be when I got there compared to my previous trips.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brugs;2373394]At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.
Or it was really no the type I like.[/QUOTE]Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.
[QUOTE=Bart1;2373790]Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.[/QUOTE]Not hard to understand. You simply can speak logically to an illogical person! LOL. I'm speaking of putas, not ndominicanas overall.
[QUOTE=Bart1;2373790]Typical domincana chicas, when business is slow then the prices go up, hard for a gringo to understand latinas.[/QUOTE]BTW, I'm not a gringo.
All the guys I saw in the street trying to get a ST for 2500 made the girls laugh.
[QUOTE=Brugs;2374575]BTW, I'm not a gringo.[/QUOTE]So, are you Dominicano?
[QUOTE=RebelMonger;2374876]So, are you Dominicano?[/QUOTE]I meant I'm not from the US, I'm from Europe.
But I understood when Bart1 said "hard to understand Latinas".
Even if I'm travelling a lot to LATAM and met a bunch of girls with years.
[QUOTE=Brugs;2374575]BTW, I'm not a gringo.[/QUOTE]All white foreigners are "gringos' to Dominicans same as all East Asians are "chinos".
[QUOTE=Brugs;2374575]All the guys I saw in the street trying to get a ST for 2500 made the girls laugh.[/QUOTE]And I would be laughing at all the suckers willing to pay 2500 for ST. Absolutely not necessary in this country. My very pretty, very young regular is more than happy to give me three hours of her time for 1000 plus moto fare. I have to feed her but as she cooks for me I don't mind that. And if she ever asked for more there are plenty of others in line. And I am no Brad Pitt. More like "the pits".
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2374957]All white foreigners are "gringos' to Dominicans same as all East Asians are "chinos".
And I would be laughing at all the suckers willing to pay 2500 for ST. Absolutely not necessary in this country. My very pretty, very young regular is more than happy to give me three hours of her time for 1000 plus moto fare. I have to feed her but as she cooks for me I don't mind that. And if she ever asked for more there are plenty of others in line. And I am no Brad Pitt. More like "the pits".[/QUOTE]I'm with you Charles. That's the bad thing about the Su and a lot of inexperience mongers their for P4P. They let the Chicas set the tone and the price. Many of us are at a disadvantage because we're on a short vacation with A hard dick in a lot of money to spend.
The chicas’s union is always there working us. It's the guys that live and frequent there a lot that are able to maintain price integrity. The chicas are quickly using there limited movement to their advantage. Quite honestly any opportunity or situations they and use to increase prices is an opportunity indeed. Look he said they laughed at the offered price! Like them saying, "we know you want us more than we want your money". So paid more or keep walking.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2374963]I'm with you Charles. That's the bad thing about the Su and a lot of inexperience mongers their for P4P. They let the Chicas set the tone and the price. Many of us are at a disadvantage because we're on a short vacation with A hard dick in a lot of money to spend.
The chicass union is always there working us. It's the guys that live and frequent there a lot that are able to maintain price integrity. The chicas are quickly using there limited movement to their advantage. Quite honestly any opportunity or situations they and use to increase prices is an opportunity indeed. Look he said they laughed at the offered price! Like them saying, "we know you want us more than we want your money". So paid more or keep walking.[/QUOTE]You're right, I've been there only for one day, so I did not had time to check many girls, and I wanted to get laid the only night I was there. At the beginning, some were asking like a 100 dollars for 1 hour, and 150 dollars for two hours. With what I read, I did not want to spend this amount of money, so when she said 50 dollars 1 h30, two pops, kissing and "oral al natural" I said OK.
And I laugh when she asked for a propina at the end. I told her I think it's enough (she also wanted money for the motoconcho, eat and drink stuff from the minibar).
Next time I will be there an full weekend, so I'll try to get a ST for 2500 pesos.
Brugs.
[QUOTE=Brugs;2375051]At the beginning, some were asking like a 100 dollars for 1 hour, and 150 dollars for two hours.
[/QUOTE]It's a goddamn shame the prices have gotten to this point. I salute you for doing your homework. So many of us don't. My first time to the DR I think I paid 100 to 120 at a casa.
Back in the US paying $100 plus dollars for a pretty Chica while on vacation is all in the budget. Later some of the chicas were whispering to my friend who had not pick a Chica, tell them $50. I did not understand Dominican culture, finances, or The fair market value for what I was purchasing. I was just on vacation with a goal and vacation money.
For some people that doesn't matter $100 is a fair price. It's all good just not for me. P4 P is the game that we play. Now that I understand things a bit more; my choices are much better and my prices are much cheaper. I actually a lot more for less.
Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?
The girls lie to each other. They tell their friends they got a 100 for thier box when really it was 1500 pesos. Most girls go home with no takers in the SU. They become desperate for a taker and will go for any reasonable offer. That why the new girls come with dreams of the 100 dllar quickie and are shocked when they see more attractive girls begging for 2000 pesos, I try not to low ball them because a sour atitude makes for a sour pussy. Meaning if the girl feels you have takien advantage of them thier performance will suck. Expats have a differrent approach then us mongers. They seem to be trying to get the lowest price they can and they have the time wait for the "good deal". Us weekend warrior do not have time to hem and haw. An extra 10 bucks for a happy attractive lay is no swet. 2500 pesos is 50 dollars 3000 is 60 bucks. In the states you would pay 3 times this for lesser quality IMHO. The key to me is I pad all this money to get there and the best bargain is the girls.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2375274]Also, I am looking for a specific type (... fair skin ...)[/QUOTE]You are coming to the wrong town and country. Sure, there are fair-skinned girls in the DR, but not many on the game as they find it much easier to get legit jobs or become affluent Dominicans' mistresses. Try Colombia.
I guess 1% of the working girls in Sosua are fair-skinned, and these either charge high prices or have behavioral problems.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2375282]The girls lie to each other. They tell their friends they got a 100 for thier box when really it was 1500 pesos. Most girls go home with no takers in the SU. They become desperate for a taker and will go for any reasonable offer. That why the new girls come with dreams of the 100 dollar quickie and are shocked when they see more attractive girls begging for 2000 pesos, I try not to low ball them because a sour attitude makes for a sour pussy. Meaning if the girl feels you have taken advantage of them their performance will suck. Expats have a different approach then us mongers. They seem to be trying to get the lowest price they can and they have the time wait for the "good deal". Us weekend warrior do not have time to hem and haw. An extra 10 bucks for a happy attractive lay is no sweat. 2500 pesos is 50 dollars 3000 is 60 bucks. In the states you would pay 3 times this for lesser quality IMHO. The key to me is I pad all this money to get there and the best bargain is the girls.[/QUOTE]I know man. I paid $R400 to be with a girl for two hours in Rio de Janeiro (that's about $50 an hour), and somebody is going to criticize me and say that wasn't a good deal! I'm like look, where I come from the cream of the crop optics-wise would cost 5 times as much (not just 3) and deliver far less! Absolutely a deal for a tourist monger such as myself. Absolutely!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2375521]I know man. I paid $R400 to be with a girl for two hours in Rio de Janeiro (that's about $50 an hour), and somebody is going to criticize me and say that wasn't a good deal! I'm like look, where I come from the cream of the crop optics-wise would cost 5 times as much (not just 3) and deliver far less! Absolutely a deal for a tourist monger such as myself. Absolutely![/QUOTE]I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE!
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2375499]I guess 1% of the working girls in Sosua are fair-skinned.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's significantly less than I thought. Either way should be a great time. All set to leave next weekend.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2375555]I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE![/QUOTE]Exactly it's a mindset thing with some of these mongers. Can't let go of what's at home, and always want to do a comparison. Those are the ones that effect the market.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2375576]Exactly it's a mindset thing with some of these mongers. Can't let go of what's at home, and always want to do a comparison. Those are the ones that effect the market.[/QUOTE]Not true I "affected" the market negatively. An expat monger assured me privately that I was absolutely within the range of local market pricing. And at most of the other places I patronized like the termas in Rio and the boates in So Paulo, there was either set pricing by the club, or a "common market" price that you knew all of the girls were going to start out asking for, and then you negotiate from there. I paid what Brazilians patronizing those same clubs pay.
I'm not the kind of monger who only makes a comparison between home and the overseas location I'm in. I do think about what is a fair price in the country where I'm mongering, regardless of home country price. But, I certainly don't ignore the latter either. It all comes into play in a personal economic analysis, including my status as a tourist with a limited amount of time to do my "buying". I'm not going to spend a lot of time haggling over $15 to $20 if I see something I got to have. And I'm not going to fuck in dirty rooms to save money on the fuck either, but that's just me. The only thing I want to be dirty in the room is the sex!
I do my homework before I travel, even if I have been to a place many times before because things do change, and I make sure I don't get ripped off, be that in Brazil, Germany, The Philippines, Thailand or wherever. What is a fair price locally, and how does that compare to back home? I ask both questions, plus consider the level of service I can expect to get in each place for what I'm paying too. It all goes into the mix. It is why I stay my ass out of Switzerland and the UAE, among some other places. They don't work for me on an economic level, or even in terms of customer satisfaction.
And now asking prices are higher in Sosua. Coincidence?
Maybe the economy is booming LOL?
[QUOTE=Brugs;2373394]At Merengue around 10 pm, I said about 50 girls hanging, I met Katherin 23 years old from Santiago. Most of the girls asked 80 $ for ST, you can go down to 50 $, but 2000/25000 pesos I did not find.
Or it was really no the type I like.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2375274]Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?[/QUOTE]For fair skin set your Tinder profile for Santiago and source from there and surrounding Cibao region.
2nd day back. Had a chica from my contacts the first day. 2500 well spent! Didn't stay out late.
Spent yesterday on the beach drinking with friends. Good times! Was in the apt ready to crash at 10. But decided to hit merengue for one more drink and to see how it looked. Aas I walked in started chatting with a sexy short brown skinned chica. She gave me a hard on! Got the WhatsApp and she insisted I hit her immediately so she could have my contact. Got a drink and scanned the crowd. A few stunners and a lot of decent chicas. A lot of guys as well. Finished my drink. Told the chica 2500. Sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. She agreed immediately. Service was good, but not great. We had a drink and she did a little strip tease. LOL.
The day was slow, but there were some chicas on the beach. Saw Dominican dudes and chicas being arrested. Not worried at all. Going to be a great trip!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2375620]Not true I "affected" the market negatively. An expat monger assured me privately that I was absolutely within the range of local market pricing. And at most of the other places I patronized like the termas in Rio and the boates in So Paulo, there was either set pricing by the club, or a "common market" price that you knew all of the girls were going to start out asking for, and then you negotiate from there. I paid what Brazilians patronizing those same clubs pay.
I'm not the kind of monger who only makes a comparison between home and the overseas location I'm in. I do think about what is a fair price in the country where I'm mongering, regardless of home country price. But, I certainly don't ignore the latter either. It all comes into play in a personal economic analysis, including my status as a tourist with a limited amount of time to do my "buying". I'm not going to spend a lot of time haggling over $15 to $20 if I see something I got to have. And I'm not going to fuck in dirty rooms to save money on the fuck either, but that's just me. The only thing I want to be dirty in the room is the sex!
I do my homework before I travel, even if I have been to a place many times before because things do change, and I make sure I don't get ripped off, be that in Brazil, Germany, The Philippines, Thailand or wherever. What is a fair price locally, and how does that compare to back home? I ask both questions, plus consider the level of service I can expect to get in each place for what I'm paying too. It all goes into the mix. It is why I stay my ass out of Switzerland and the UAE, among some other places. They don't work for me on an economic level, or even in terms of customer satisfaction.[/QUOTE]Don't "price shamed" by mongers, lol.
From my experience mongers brag as much as hookers lie.
Your obligation in the DR or anywhere else is to get your satisfaction for your money, not worry about "the market". Your market is what you want and when you want it! You can't get lobster for the price of a plate of fries. It's just not the same!
You generally get what you pay for. It's no co-incidence that those who complain about what other mongers spend, are also the ones that complain the most about the Sosua hoes, and the rip offs. lol.
Enjoy!
That Aida is a damn fool!
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2375872]Don't "price shamed” by mongers lol. You can't get lobster for the price of a plate of fries. It's just not the same![/QUOTE]Feel no "shame". Just annoyance. And yes, things carry different value, including pussy. Guys who think no pussy should cost more than a certain amount just aren't operating in the real world. That's not how life works. Anyway, I will say no more on the subject.
Over the years the prices I had were from free to a bottle of soft drink to $200 USD. No one yet offered to pay me or asked over $200 USD per hour. Expats regularly pay 1,000 pesos during the day to a girl with a pulse, most do them bareback. As a tourist I'm ok with RD $2,000 to RD $3,500 for a good time.
Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2375555]I was not trying to criticize you. I am a tourist a lot of places. But I have never understood the "back home" thinking. Nobody goes to a more expensive place and talks about how much cheaper it would be back home. They only do that with the cheaper places. I don't think about what it would cost back home. I think about what it costs HERE![/QUOTE]This thinking that you point out concerning guys who bring up the prices they pay compared to their home country is really nonsense. I wonder if they compare computer prices from the DR to what they pay at home? If they consider The cost to get to the airport, changing planes, the cost of a taxi after landing, then the hotel room they need it would seem like the great difference in price they are getting is not a great deal as they imagine from their home base. Another way to look at it is the hassle of customs, airport delays, lost luggage, and other things like dealing with the touts, and rip off providers.
One other thing is the exchange rate changes sometimes against the Monger.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2376200]Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace![/QUOTE]Thanks for on the site report. Glad to know Sosua is not dead.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2376216]This thinking that you point out concerning guys who bring up the prices they pay compared to their home country is really nonsense. I wonder if they compare computer prices from the DR to what they pay at home? If they consider The cost to get to the airport, changing planes, the cost of a taxi after landing, then the hotel room they need it would seem like the great difference in price they are getting is not a great deal as they imagine from their home base. Another way to look at it is the hassle of customs, airport delays, lost luggage, and other things like dealing with the touts, and rip off providers.
One other thing is the exchange rate changes sometimes against the Monger.[/QUOTE]I just realized [B]who[/B] you are! It's nice to know you're having fun. I still remember the fun that us (three amigos) had one night in Medellin. You're a great guy and wish you keep having fun for a very long time. Take care!
[QUOTE=RebelMonger;2376249]I just realized [B]who[/B] you are! It's nice to know you're having fun. I still remember the fun that us (three amigos) had one night in Medellin. You're a great guy and wish you keep having fun for a very long time. Take care![/QUOTE]Yes I remember that crazy night well. I wish you well also. One thing for sure, those different fun times we can always remember after all else fades.
[QUOTE=Questner;2375727]For fair skin set your Tinder profile for Santiago and source from there and surrounding Cibao region.[/QUOTE]I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2376200]Awesome night! Watched the fight! Hit merengue. Could see the line for classico was to the street. Knew it would be jammed packed but couldn't resist. It was wall to wall! A lot of 7's and up! Had a good time! Pulled a sexy flaca. A solid 7. Told her sexo con condom pero tu me chupas sin condom. 2500. She's says ok papi! Good sex. No drama. Sosua lives! Peace![/QUOTE]So last I read Classico was closed? And the bar below it also? Did I miss something? Or just read wrong? Thanks.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2376380]I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.[/QUOTE]Yep, you'll find most of the ladies on a busy weekend come from out of town, many from Santo Domingo, and surrounding areas! That's why folks should be careful of stereotyping "Sosua chicas"!
[QUOTE=RacShack;2376405]So last I read Classico was closed? And the bar below it also? Did I miss something? Or just read wrong? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Everything is open. My understanding is classico closed for one night.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2376380]I've decided to only use Tinder for that first initial night. I'll be getting to Sosua at around 9 or 10 pm on a Saturday after flying and taxi from Santiago. I'll probably go out for a drink but I know I won't feel like doing a lot of searching the first night. Thanks for the tip though, I didn't realize a lot of girls travel like close to two hours to go to Sosua for the weekend.[/QUOTE]More than likely, if you are using Tinder then it would be for chicks no closer than Puerto Plata. I have not noticed chicks in Sosua on Tinder like that. The M.O. of Sosua is an open market. Chicks are not hanging on Tinder when they can just walk outside and find a guy. And as late as you are getting in, nobody is going to be traveling that far to see you. Tinder is going to be a waste of time for that night.
Sosua is not but so big. If you are going out for a drink, then you are literally searching for chicks at the same time.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2375274]Recently became a member of the international site but a long term member of the US version of this site. Finally taking my talents overseas for a few days to see for myself if it's as good as people say. As the title says first time in DR. I've read this forum religiously over the last couple of days. I've decided to stay at New Garden over my usual Air BnB and decided to avoid Blackbeards because I want more variety and be closer to the action. I think I understand what price range to negotiate chicas for their time. My question is, where (if anywhere specific) do I find chicas that want to spend all day and night in a girlfriend situation? I've been talking to a few on tinder but again don't want to limit my choices. Also, I am looking for a specific type (21-32 years old, fair skin, curves in the right places), is there a specific bar or side of town to find more girls that fit these criteria as opposed to the girls just looking for ST?[/QUOTE]My man don't go to the Su looking for a girlfriend. I mean the GFE. And if your plan on using tinder don't invite any of the chicas who do not live in the Su to the Su. You cannot meet a nice chica and invite her to the working girl trap. If you plan on the girlfriend experience get a hotel away from the street walkers town.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2376543]More than likely, if you are using Tinder then it would be for chicks no closer than Puerto Plata. I have not noticed chicks in Sosua on Tinder like that. The M.O. of Sosua is an open market. Chicks are not hanging on Tinder when they can just walk outside and find a guy. And as late as you are getting in, nobody is going to be traveling that far to see you.[/QUOTE]Yea I'm starting to notice that. I've already begun to change my "plans" because of my late arrival. As far as a "girlfriend" goes, I'm absolutely positively not looking for an actual girlfriend lmao. Just a girl who hangs around when I'm there. I'm not looking to set any records for my trip, I'd be OK with a few good women for the duration, quality over quantity. The other problem with Tinder is it feels like a part-time job trying to message back and forth with all the women that are using it. Thanks for the great advice thought guys.
Is all and well in Sosua? I heard of the crackdowns. Are there cute girls on Clisante? I ask because I have no contacts with the girl and would be starting from the beginning. I can't follow my friend who knows several chicas.
[QUOTE=Cool;2376860]Is all and well in Sosua? I heard of the crackdowns. Are there cute girls on Clisante? I ask because I have no contacts with the girl and would be starting from the beginning. I can't follow my friend who knows several chicas.[/QUOTE]Even with the crackdown there's still plenty of chicas. Slow during the day, chicas in merengue and bourbon street later. You'll be fine.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2376755]quality over quantity. The other problem with Tinder is it feels like a part-time job trying to message back and forth with all the women that are using it. Thanks for the great advice thought guys.[/QUOTE]Dude it sounds like you got the right plan in the wrong place. Most of us go to the Su for quantity and not quality. You sound like a man looking for quality. But you're looking in McDonald's for stake.
I agree with you about Tinder. It too time consuming. I don't want to waste my time going back and forth with chicas for hours, days, weeks, or months in hopes that I may meet her on my 4 to 6 day vacation. So many of us find out that chicas have all the time in the world for internet communications, but when you arrive; 70 to 90% can't be found. You should to be in a good area for Tinder and DC to work for you. Other wise its like asking a girl to meet you in a swingers club for your first date.
IMHO I think you should just go to a casa early and get a deal for a Chica for the day. You sound like you have patients. Take your time, interview, and go with you guts. You seem pretty experienced enough to make a good choice.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2376971] IMHO I think you should just go to a casa early and get a deal for a Chica for the day. You sound like you have patients. Take your time, interview, and go with you guts. You seem pretty experienced enough to make a good choice.[/QUOTE]When you say a casa, are you talking about Blackbeards or Oasis?
Follow up report from over the weekend. Boots on the ground last Thursday, my 4th trip to the Su, brought my buddy for his first trip.
Of course I noticed the decline in street action, but my friend was overly impressed and loved it, so perception is everything here.
Nonetheless, we both had a great time. Clubs were packed all nights, we also ventured off the strip and found some great spots.
St action was had from as little as 1000 up to 3000 for the chica with all the "enhancements" (she was fun but could still feel and see the stitches LOL); my buddy even got some free action from a very hot top prospect, so he was in heaven.
We did see a few girls getting snatched up by police, but it was rare. Chicas will grab the nearest male to appear busy when the police ride by.
We are considering a return for New Years eve; what's NYE like in the Su? Worth a M-F trip rather than a weekend trip?
And to that poster who mentioned the return of our friend Jennifer with the moto, yes she was there, although IMO she has lost a little of her pizzazz over the last couple of years.
Had a ball batted a 1000. All the girls were winners. This trip was prompted by a 288 round trip fare to SD. I could not turn it down. I hooked up with 2 of my favs. In SD. Used Uber to get around and a very good time. I spent 2 days there banging my girls and had amazing sex. After 2 days I came to Sosua ready to make friends. Because I know so many of the regulars, hands are always out. On this trip I hooked up with a 22 year old who had me sprung on my last trip. She was a newby when I met her last month. A month of Sosua had jaded her bit and made her appreciate me a bit more. Spent 1st day and night with her as my girlfriend. Next day I admitted to my self Sosua is not a place to have a gilrl friend. I met chica in Classicos the night before, get this name little Big tits. That is what she called herself 5'2" 120 pounds 30 of it tities. Very cute solid body. The girl could take dick like you would not believe. The sex was great and she could be as nasty as you wanted. This was lunch time action. I was going to bring her back and kick girlfriend to the curb. "Remember this rule" There are no rules do what makes you happy.
Around 3 I go to the beach and chill. It was Tuesday and not much on the street so the beach was a good option. I met a sweet 20 year old who brought memories of my college girlfriend very sweet. We walk to the German place next to Bourbon St. I buy her dinner and was sitting with her when a chica I had been spinning for a few years walks in. I felt I owed her so I said good by to the 20 year old and took the old friend for some rack time. My Haitian friend gave me all she had and it was fantastic. Often the girls in the SU give half ass efforts and most guys can tell the differnce. My girl let me know she was glad I gave her another shot. It is my last day in the SU and I am not holding back. By 6 oclock I am back on the prawl. I go to Rumbas and order some ribs. I see the 20 year old and she is with friend. They sits with me and I share my meal with her friend. I was getting a good girl vibe from the 20 year old and I want nasty girl but her friend seems willing to be nasty. It is my last night so why not do them both. 4000 pesos for both of them. Normally 3 somes are bull shit and this could have gone that way.
Broke out my buddy the vibrator and banged both girls with gusto. To my surprise college girl did a great BJ which led me laying some pipe while her buddy was in the bath room. She loosen up and we had a great session. College girl was the better fuck. I bought her back to hours later for another session both were excellent. She came both times.
It is 9 oclock and I had told little big tits to come by at 10. It is my last night and I need to be free. I cancel 1st night girlfriend and little big tits. I go to Classicos and see the puta of my dreams. She had been taken off the market for 2 years by her American boy friend. She looks like Gabriel Union and fucks like a porn star. She is the complete package. I take her back to the room and she is everything remember. She gave great head, fucked and gave a show with the vibrator that bought the house down. A perfect ending to perfect time in Sosua. This is Oldkool home chilling with very nice memories.
Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.
So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2377486]Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.[/QUOTE]Are you the old guy in the captain's hat that was dancing his ass off in merengue last night? LMAO! My man!
Seems like talent is down a little since the white party last weekend. But it's still good! Merengue and classico were fun last night! Enough pretty chicas. Had some new ones, some off my WhatsApp. Polica still arresting chicas though.
[QUOTE=AllanParke;2376987]When you say a casa, are you talking about Blackbeards or Oasis?[/QUOTE]I wrote three responses. I don't know why they Didn't post?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2377486]Great performer one of the best ever had in Su.[/QUOTE]Awesome fuckin body!
This girl knew how to take dick. I put her on my roster. She positioned her body so you got straight penetration. I have have had well over a hundred girls and she stands out as a top performer. She let me take pictures.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2377738]Awesome fuckin body![/QUOTE]
Go 10 days for the past eight years.
Usually the cops are going for the Haitians on the main drag. This year they were going after all the girls on the main drag. It sucked. I usually would get two or three just walking on the street. Not this year. Nothing. Only exception was Sunday during the early NFL games. Sitting at Bourban as numerous girls walked by.
But the clubs were full at night including City Light.
Just a little info for Classico fans. Usual closing at 3 am on weekend. But it closes at 1 am on Sunday, Wed, and Thursday. Closed on Tuesday and probably Monday.
Also the resurfacing the road between Sosua and the airport. Expect a 30 to 45 minute delay. They do not believe in 15 minute block one way and 15 the other way. I had forty minutes of stopped traffic. Plus if somebody is trying to make a left turn thru the stopped traffic. Possibility you cannot go around that car. So traffic is blocked sometimes both ways.
Harassing by the cops at night has no affect on the visiting ship tourists.
If your assistant would come down to the main drag they would notice. All the tourist vans come by during the day. They are back on their ships eating at 6 pm. So leave the girls along after 6 pm.
Plus the only reason theyare driving on the main drag and looking at the girls is to see the sex worker. There is nothing for the tourist vans to do in Sosua.
Just got home from a 10 day trip. Had a good time! Its not the old days. It's slow during the day, but some action on the beach. Cops still arresting chicas and some Dominican men. But still a good time! I used my WhatsApp contacts, but still met 3 new chicas. Many chicas are good with 2500 pesos short term. Thursday night the weekend chicas still roll in. Sosua isn't dead! Peace!
A slow su is better then fast anywhere I have been. My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls. Never the less on my last trip I found 2 strong performing new girls to add to the roster.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2378479]Just got home from a 10 day trip. Had a good time! Its not the old days. It's slow during the day, but some action on the beach. Cops still arresting chicas and some Dominican men. But still a good time! I used my WhatsApp contacts, but still met 3 new chicas. Many chicas are good with 2500 pesos short term. Thursday night the weekend chicas still roll in. Sosua isn't dead! Peace![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2378482]A slow su is better then fast anywhere I have been. My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls. Never the less on my last trip I found 2 strong performing new girls to add to the roster.[/QUOTE]Amen! A slow night in the sue IS better than a fast night in the states! I think I saw you in merengue dancing salsa! You had on a brown short set an a brown sailor Captain hat. Your salsa is good! My bachata is good! But not my salsa! I salute Old Kool!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2378482] My whatsup rosster has gotten so strong that is getting hard to fine time for new girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".
I say the majic word NO. I will say this there are some girls who are worth a propina. Once you take the time to break them in you to keep them.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2378668]Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2378668]Yeah, I'm starting to regret having a roster cause the ladies ruin it by later trying to get you to send $$. It usually starts with "How are you? The standard reply is: "Bad".[/QUOTE]That is why you either don't ask that question or jump ahead with your own sob story. 2 hours ago a chick who thinks she is 3 months pregnant with my baby sent me this. (Weird as shit. It just looks like it is laying on top of her arm. LOL.) Little does she know, I can't have kids. Before, she asked me if I was going to help with the prenatal stuff. I said nope; all I do is take care of my kid when it comes out. Something tells me she may end up losing the baby like they always do.
One of my long time chicas works at a hospital. When ever she gets hard up I get photo of her in a hospital bed. I even got a copy of a bill with someone elses name on it. Sadly several other girls have made similar destessed requeests. Once I had 3 different girls in one week try to scam me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2378893]That is why you either don't ask that question or jump ahead with your own sob story. 2 hours ago a chick who thinks she is 3 months pregnant with my baby sent me this. (Weird as shit. It just looks like it is laying on top of her arm. LOL.) Little does she know, I can't have kids. Before, she asked me if I was going to help with the prenatal stuff. I said nope; all I do is take care of my kid when it comes out. Something tells me she may end up losing the baby like they always do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2379173]One of my long time chicas works at a hospital. When ever she gets hard up I get photo of her in a hospital bed. I even got a copy of a bill with someone elses name on it. Sadly several other girls have made similar destessed requeests. Once I had 3 different girls in one week try to scam me.[/QUOTE]RFM. Request for money is part of the game, especially in the DR. Like you said, the magic word is no. Mi amor, yo nunca mandar dinero de nadie. Cuando te veo posible puedo ayudarte. This chicas respect a firm hand. You have to be a little pimpish with them. But not abusive.
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2377533]So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.[/QUOTE]Try Colombia and go back to Sosua. You may like both. I do.
Had so much fun on last trip had to do it agan. Did a split ticket play American into POP for $220 great price. Return flight on Spirit $130 out of SD awesome price and great departure time 3 pm. This gives me time to go out slinging. $350 round trio to DR flying into POP. Arriving at 1:30. This is why I can do 5 trips a year. I live in the DC area so this price was a show stopper. Round trip to POP is normaly $650. By flying back through Santo Dpmingo I spend a day with one of my roster chicas in SD and save almost $300 on my return trip. I am stoked because I have some solid babes to hook uo with on call.
Old Kool,
When are you scheduled to return? I went in October of last year and about melted in the humidity and heat.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2381686] I went in October of last year and about melted in the humidity and heat.[/QUOTE]Snowflake!
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2377533]So, my first mongering experience ever was in Sosua (I posted my trip report a while back). My biggest issues were that girls wouldn't really follow the script. I would google translate basically BBBJ with propina if they swallow and every single chick I asked said yes. No chica actually performed BBBJ. What gives? The other head for some reason is making me want to go again to test my luck because there were some curvy hotties there, but I am also considering just going to Cartagena or Medellin because those places are rumored to give better service.[/QUOTE]You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.
The girls are pros and can spot a newby in a heartbeat. Uasually the hardcore girls are pushy. I like to initiate first contact. However building a little repore before sex works wonders for your sessions. Making girls do things they are not comfortable is rarely a good thing. My last few trips have been awesome because the girls have been relaxed and comfortable with me. Not that I am all that but I take the time to set a positive mood with the girls before I drag them back to the room. I enjoy dancing and use it to break the ice. Most of the girls are pretty nice but there are some scammers who can ruin your night. Sosua is the highlight of my year. I am 60 plus and banging attractive women still blows my mind. So I have taken the time to learn enough Spanish to get by and dance with gusto. So if you want to max your time in Sosua or anywhere in the DR step your game up or not. Everyone has their own objectives. I like GFE with my sex other guys are happpy with going to bordellos for a quickie. Once you figure out what you want Sosua can provide it.
[QUOTE=Jnd37;2381981]You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jnd37;2381981]You have to be assertive, don't pay until after services are rendered. If they refuse that then just let them leave. In a hotel you're pretty safe, these girls are deathly afraid of the cops now so just threaten to call and they'll leave.[/QUOTE]I agree. They will offer you the Moon just to get past the front desk. After that it's all about the control that you assert. You can start off by just asking in a joking but serious way. Mami su chupa Buena? Con condom o sin? Is your BJ good? With condom or not? Get a direct answer the tone is set.
I said it before it's always good to add an incentive When negotiating. Example, you're willing to pay 2500 for a chica short term. During the Negotiations tell the girl that you will pay her 2000 pesos. However if she's good to thousand 500 no problem. I rarely meet Chica's that don't earn that extra no problem 500 pesos. The occasions that I do cool. She had her reasons not to do a good job; I have my reasons not to pay her the extra 500.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2382018] During the Negotiations tell the girl that you will pay her 2000 pesos. However if she's good to thousand 500 no problem. I rarely meet Chica's that don't earn that extra no problem 500 pesos. The occasions that I do cool. She had her reasons not to do a good job; I have my reasons not to pay her the extra 500.[/QUOTE]This should be on the first page of the Mongers Handbook. Truth.
I learned from someone right here on the Forum to just tell them that you cannot send money because you are saving up to visit them again. It has worked for me every time. It is difficult for them to tell you just send the money after that.
As your return line is I am working hard to get back to you.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2379348]RFM. Request for money is part of the game, especially in the DR. Like you said, the magic word is no. Mi amor, yo nunca mandar dinero de nadie. Cuando te veo posible puedo ayudarte. This chicas respect a firm hand. You have to be a little pimpish with them. But not abusive.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Was wondering if anyone use DR CUpid and got a successful hook up with sex?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2382148]This should be on the first page of the Mongers Handbook. Truth.[/QUOTE]I don't advise ever negotiating a tip with a chica. Once we settle on a price, sometimes the girl will then ask for a propina. I always tell them no propina. Its just their way of feeling you out to see how you are and how much they can get out of you. If you tell her "maybe" a propina, trust me no matter if she's great or if she sucked, she's going to expect that propina at the end. I don't generally give propinas, but I will shell out an extra 100 pesos for "pasaje" usually. I think that's fair enough.
[QUOTE=BigTimeFun;2382395]I learned from someone right here on the Forum to just tell them that you cannot send money because you are saving up to visit them again. It has worked for me every time. It is difficult for them to tell you just send the money after that.
As your return line is I am working hard to get back to you.[/QUOTE]Could be one of my old lines I posted here.
I always wonder why some guys get bent out of shape by hookers asking for money!
Hoes don't even take it seriously themselves. They'll ask everybody, and it works often enough to make it worth their time! Just human nature.
Like car salesmen, politicians and time share pimps, they are not talking to you, only your wallet, so don't take them seriously, It's not personal!
Amen. It is all part of the game. Sometimes us mongers want to personalize the business part. It is all business.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2382563]Could be one of my old lines I posted here.
I always wonder why some guys get bent out of shape by hookers asking for money!
Hoes don't even take it seriously themselves. They'll ask everybody, and it works often enough to make it worth their time! Just human nature.
Like car salesmen, politicians and time share pimps, they are not talking to you, only your wallet, so don't take them seriously, It's not personal![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamWebster;2382549]I don't advise ever negotiating a tip with a chica. Once we settle on a price, sometimes the girl will then ask for a propina. I always tell them no propina. Its just their way of feeling you out to see how you are and how much they can get out of you. If you tell her "maybe" a propina, trust me no matter if she's great or if she sucked, she's going to expect that propina at the end. I don't generally give propinas, but I will shell out an extra 100 pesos for "pasaje" usually. I think that's fair enough.[/QUOTE]I see your point. But you miss the point, it wasn't a propina. It was exactly how much you were going to give her anyway. Look at the example. I think If we agree on a price and I tell her I will give her 100 pesos (2 dollars) extra if she adds chupa; that's not much of an incentive. That was an after the fact move.
Hotter then July.
OK. I remember this being asked some time ago and the answer was there really wasn't any- why would you bother -you can just go to the corner and inspect in person- however- since the mayor's crusade to clean the place up I am wondering if this alternative has popped up. Someone on DR1 was posting something that would imply it had.
Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.
For you fans of the restaurant that Are not familiar with the hotel it's Past the Europa going towards the after hour casino.
It's a long walk from the old location most people will take a motor Concho but that's just the beginning of the changes in Sousa.
[QUOTE=Scotch;2384977]Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.[/QUOTE]They say the new hoppin club Skybox is there too.
[QUOTE=Scotch;2384977]Bourbon street restaurant Is moving next week to the Ahnvee Hotel resort.
For you fans of the restaurant that Are not familiar with the hotel it's Past the Europa going towards the after hour casino.
It's a long walk from the old location most people will take a motor Concho but that's just the beginning of the changes in Sousa.[/QUOTE]Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2385035]Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.[/QUOTE]Good info Mani, I will go to Sosua and Cabarette next week for the Jazz festival and I will see for myself. I also feel its some dirty dealing going on here.
Wasn't Amvee having financial issues and problems with people who paid deposits? I used to walk to that end all the time to one of my hideout spots, Freds Cuba libre bar, and that area gets shady late at night.
If the Sosua we know becomes family tourist friendly will the hotels then become non chica friendly? If they shut down Rumbas that was involved as community sponsors, why wouldn't they eventually go after Amvee?
Riding a moto from the Amvee to the casino is a dark loney ride at night, walking is out of the question.
I'm sorry but I just don't trust it but we will see what happens.
Was thinking about spending the last two weeks in December in the DR. How is Sosua during Christmas week? Will there be chicas out and people parting or are most Dominicans with family?
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2385094]Was thinking about spending the last two weeks in December in the DR. How is Sosua during Christmas week? Will there be chicas out and people parting or are most Dominicans with family?[/QUOTE]This will be my 6th Christmas in sosua. It's always slow. But there will be some chicas around. I personally have contacts in the area. The weather is usually good and it's still better than being home. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2385056]Good info Mani, I will go to Sosua and Cabarette next week for the Jazz festival and I will see for myself. I also feel its some dirty dealing going on here.
Wasn't Amvee having financial issues and problems with people who paid deposits? I used to walk to that end all the time to one of my hideout spots, Freds Cuba libre bar, and that area gets shady late at night.
If the Sosua we know becomes family tourist friendly will the hotels then become non chica friendly? If they shut down Rumbas that was involved as community sponsors, why wouldn't they eventually go after Amvee?
Riding a moto from the Amvee to the casino is a dark loney ride at night, walking is out of the question.
I'm sorry but I just don't trust it but we will see what happens.[/QUOTE]
Sosua is addcted to, and depends on sex tourism dollars.
Politicians would be happy if family tourism could replace the sex tourism business, but that is not happening, at least for now!
So they'll re-arrange the deck chairs, try to keep everybody happy and carry on with business as usual!
When, and if family tourism gradually takes over as the main source of local income, prostitution, although legal, could easily be virtually banned! Simply by zoning and soliciting bylaws. Ticketing hookers, and hassling mongers and bar owners.
We'll see how it all pans out, but in the meantime it's business as usual.
As far as that end of town is concerned, it's no longer a no go zone, a lot of ex pats have apartments in the area, and the new bars with customers, lights, music and Cestur patrols discourage crime. I frequently walk up and down there, sometimes late at night and feel no danger. It has become a beaten track, with the Super Pollo in the area, and makes a nice change from the endless parade of hard core hookers downtown.
At the same time, you can't wander home like a drunken tourist, anywhere in Sosua, as there are always opportunists watching and waiting! The motoconcho guy is your friend!
So, as always, keep a weather eye open, and be safe!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2385238]Sosua is addcted to, and depends on sex tourism dollars.
Politicians would be happy if family tourism could replace the sex tourism business, but that is not happening, at least for now!
So they'll re-arrange the deck chairs, try to keep everybody happy and carry on with business as usual!
When, and if family tourism gradually takes over as the main source of local income, prostitution, although legal, could easily be virtually banned! Simply by zoning and soliciting bylaws. Ticketing hookers, and hassling mongers and bar owners.
We'll see how it all pans out, but in the meantime it's business as usual.
As far as that end of town is concerned, it's no longer a no go zone, a lot of ex pats have apartments in the area, and the new bars with customers, lights, music and Cestur patrols discourage crime. I frequently walk up and down there, sometimes late at night and feel no danger.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Oakie. I haven't been down there in a while so its good to know things have changed. Maybe it will work, but it should be an interesting ride.
These guys seem to have inside knowledge. Smart money always does. Envee is in the perfect spot for the new Sosua plans. I do not believe in coincidences. Everything they have done has been top shelf when it comes infrastructure. They have to be paying the right people and have very deep pocket.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2385035]Bourbon St. Made a deal with the devil that if they moved down to what will become the new red light district they would be given a license to stay open until 5 am As Mr E. Pointed out the new disco will open at Ahnvee also. City Lights is moving into the old High Caribbean building. And so it begins.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2385296]These guys seem to have inside knowledge. Smart money always does. Envee is in the perfect spot for the new Sosua plans. I do not believe in coincidences. Everything they have done has been top shelf when it comes infrastructure. They have to be paying the right people and have very deep pocket.[/QUOTE]Remember how deep the pockets of Bobbie and Peter were and the Dominicans switched up by jailing and exporting before shutting them down? Bourbon St. Will have the script switched on them, and they will be out of business soon.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2385268]Thanks for the update Oakie. I haven't been down there in a while so its good to know things have changed. Maybe it will work, but it should be an interesting ride.[/QUOTE]Welcome back Mr GoGo. Missed ya!
Looking forward to your take on today's Sosoua as a mongering destination, warts and all.
Let's not get bogged down with comparisons of how it used to be, but rather a fresh look how it compares to the other spots in our Caribbean backyard for the average monger today.
We have a ton of regulars from Holland, Denmark, the U. K. and Germany, so they must be finding something here, they can't get at home!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2385480]
We have a ton of regulars from Holland, Denmark, the U. K. and Germany, so they must be finding something here, they can't get at home![/QUOTE]Loads of Russians, Swedes, Belgians. Swiss, Austrians and French too. But very few new faces from the UK, I'm afraid. Partly because of the falling pound sterling through Brexit, but mainly because it is hopelessly inconvenient and expensive to get here from the UK. (Apart from to Punta Cana, which is mediocre for mongering).
My friend on the ground says everything is packed.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2385565]Loads of Russians, Swedes, Belgians. Swiss, Austrians and French too. But very few new faces from the UK, I'm afraid. Partly because of the falling pound sterling through Brexit, but mainly because it is hopelessly inconvenient and expensive to get here from the UK. (Apart from to Punta Cana, which is mediocre for mongering).[/QUOTE]Yeah I was considering a trip here but the logistics of flying from my city, Newcastle, was a total nightmare and very expensive.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2385779]My friend on the ground says everything is packed.[/QUOTE]Note to newbies.
It's the start of the High Season!
The Sosua Death Watch won't start up again until June to September, the Low Season!
Lol
Hi Guys,
Been Posting on the Medellin Thread for a while now. Just came back from there actually, had a great great solo trip as a young looking Asian guy in Medellin, have had great success. Anyone curious, please read my reports there.
Since I managed to Solo Medellin with minimal but an expanding collection of Spanish, I am thinking about other Latin or Spanish speaking countries for my dick to explore, in dept. I have a few questions with regards to what tickles my fancy.
1. Are there Facebook Hoes in the DR similar to how they have in Medellin or Colombia in general?
2. What is the going Gringo-Rate for Todas Las Noches?
3. Is it easy to find a chica friendly AirbNb or how do the motels work here?
4. Optional, I learned not to chase this outside Brazil, but how hard is it to score some anal here?
I don't think Sosua, being its size, will match up to much of the action per capita in Medellin but there are too many Pollocita / Mamacitas / Chimbitas (IDK wtf to use to call Hot women in Spanish anymore in the DR for me to look over this place.
I have no issues Solo'ing venues like El Centro in Medellin for SW's, I can't imagine having much additional trouble if I was to hit the DR for similar action unless any one want to debunk this misconception if I am making one.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2385832]Note to newbies.
It's the start of the High Season!
The Sosua Death Watch won't start up again until June to September, the Low Season!
Lol[/QUOTE]OK, so end of January is an entirely sensible time to go?
How is the vibe compared to Santo Domingo?
I have a week end of Jan I was thinking maybe 2 or 3 days SD, then the rest in Sosua.
I like the street scene, brothels, (or massage places etc).
Any tips for hotels near the action, in SD Hotel Riazor has been mentioned, but it seems a bit isolated when I checked streetview. Where should I stay Sosua?
Also in SD is the old colonial part of town the best location for the street chica's? Is there an equivalent of La Rampa in Havana, or maybe like Hotel Del Ray in CR, ie a central place where the girls gather?
In Sosua Is there significant weeknight action. I'm guessing weekends are busy, but what is Monday and Tuesday like for street chicas and the scene. Its a first time visit for me to DR, but given I have so little time don't want to waste a night....
Is the beach still a good scene weekdays? Could I hang there and pick and choose? Plenty of choice?
Looking through the posts is seems the there has been a general clean up by authorities and the girls in Sosua have been chased off the streets and maybe off the beach as well. Is that the case???
[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2386496]Since I managed to Solo Medellin with minimal but an expanding collection of Spanish, I am thinking about other Latin or Spanish speaking countries [/QUOTE]This is apples to alligators. Medellin is a big ass city. Tons of place for mongering. The part of Sosua where you will find chicks does not even have a traffic light and it is full of foreigners that came there for the same purpose. When you think of Sosua think of a small beach area and a quiet (compared to Medellin anyway) one way street with a couple of bars and restaurants.
Facebook is a thing unique to Medellin. It does not even work the same in other parts of Colombia.
The prices in Sosua have gotten out of control. You would be looking at $100 at least for all night when it is easy to find in Medellin for $30-$50.
There are plenty of girl friendly hotels in the mongering vicinty that people stay in where you can walk everywhere. I think most airbnbs are outside of this area and you would need transportation back and forth.
I have done back door action with a couple of non-pro chicks in DR. For hookers, I would say you better get some practice looking for needles in haystacks. As well, chicks in Sosua are known for promising one thing before going to the room with you, then when you get to the room it is a totally different story.
The SW action in Sosua is not the same as the SW action in Medellin. Medellin is more of what people think of when they think SW. Chicks in Sosua are only SW in the sense that you would find them walking around. I guess it is all the same thing, but the dynamic is totally different. Where in most cities guys say I am not messing with any nasty SW, guys go to Sosua specifically for that "style" of SW.
[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2386909]OK, so end of January is an entirely sensible time to go?
How is the vibe compared to Santo Domingo?
I have a week end of Jan I was thinking maybe 2 or 3 days SD, then the rest in Sosua.
I like the street scene, brothels, (or massage places etc).
Any tips for hotels near the action, in SD Hotel Riazor has been mentioned, but it seems a bit isolated when I checked streetview. Where should I stay Sosua?
Also in SD is the old colonial part of town the best location for the street chica's? Is there an equivalent of La Rampa in Havana, or maybe like Hotel Del Ray in CR, ie a central place where the girls gather?
In Sosua Is there significant weeknight action. I'm guessing weekends are busy, but what is Monday and Tuesday like for street chicas and the scene. Its a first time visit for me to DR, but given I have so little time don't want to waste a night....
Is the beach still a good scene weekdays? Could I hang there and pick and choose? Plenty of choice?
Looking through the posts is seems the there has been a general clean up by authorities and the girls in Sosua have been chased off the streets and maybe off the beach as well. Is that the case???[/QUOTE]January is a good time to monger in Sosua. We have a lot of North Americans, Canadians and Europeans here fleeing their winters. Most are return visitors and regulars.
You'll lots find lots of willing chicas year round here, but the main show starts in October, with peaks before Christmas and around Superbowl time. There are literally hundreds of chicas looking for a hook up, ranging from hardened old hookers to fresh young newbies.
The main zone is only a small strip, so they fill the streets and bars at night, and on weekends it's hard to navigate the sidewalks. You'll find some patrolling the main beach during the afternoons. There are lots of bars off the strip too, but most mongers love to post up on the main drag and watch the show!
The cops generally look out for well behaved tourists, and sporadically clear the streets of hookers, but in 15 minutes it's usually back to normal.
The thing about Sosua is that prostitution is legal, and there are no mamasans, pimps or bar fines to negotiate. No third floor walk ups, where you take your chances with who might be available. You don't need a social dating app to find them. The chicas are around in numbers so you can see them up close and personal, and chat with them.
Your only problem is who to choose, a cheap hungry hardcore one who stops you on the street and shows you her stuff, to the more reserved, and less experienced ones sitting in the bar with her girlfriends. Accordingly the prices vary, as does their level of aggressiveness. We all like something different. Aside from their attempts to upsell you, it is a relatively safe environment, but don't carry or leave anything around in your room, that you can't afford to lose! They are poor, and opportunistic, and to them you are rich!
The favorite GF friendly hotels are all in or near the main drag, Sosua Suites, Europa, New Garden, Terra Linda and Casa Valeria, and others that are mentioned in the Hotel Forum, which range in price from 50 to 90 a night.
As for SD vs Sosua, SD is a big city with lots of other stuff going on, Sosua is a small party town with nice beaches and restaurants and lots of chicas, all within a 10 minute walk.
Good luck. Let us know!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2386936]This is apples to alligators. Medellin is a big ass city. Tons of place for mongering. The part of Sosua where you will find chicks does not even have a traffic light and it is full of foreigners that came there for the same purpose. When you think of Sosua think of a small beach area and a quiet (compared to Medellin anyway) one way street with a couple of bars and restaurants.
Facebook is a thing unique to Medellin. It does not even work the same in other parts of Colombia.
The prices in Sosua have gotten out of control. You would be looking at $100 at least for all night when it is easy to find in Medellin for $30-$50.
There are plenty of girl friendly hotels in the mongering vicinty that people stay in where you can walk everywhere. I think most airbnbs are outside of this area and you would need transportation back and forth.
I have done back door action with a couple of non-pro chicks in DR. For hookers, I would say you better get some practice looking for needles in haystacks. As well, chicks in Sosua are known for promising one thing before going to the room with you, then when you get to the room it is a totally different story..[/QUOTE]Big Thanks. I think I will skip this place for now.
[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2387090]Big Thanks. I think I will skip this place for now.[/QUOTE]Mr. E is the OG! Much respect!
I just came back on 10/6 from a 12 day trip. I didn't pay over 2500 pesos. Had good sessions. Yes, many chicas will now ask for 100 $. But plenty will take 2500. You've been doing Medellin, you must speak some Spanish. Make some small talk, tell her what you want and how much YOU pay. If she asks for more tell her no gracias mucho gusto and walk away. Sosua isn't Medellin, but it's a good time.
Small town, you can walk everywhere, nice beach. Plenty of other travelers to hang with. Worth a visit in my opinion. Peace!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2387205]Mr. E is the OG! Much respect!
I just came back on 10/6 from a 12 day trip. I didn't pay over 2500 pesos. Had good sessions. Yes, many chicas will now ask for 100 $. But plenty will take 2500. You've been doing Medellin, you must speak some Spanish. Make some small talk, tell her what you want and how much YOU pay. If she asks for more tell her no gracias mucho gusto and walk away. Sosua isn't Medellin, but it's a good time.
Small town, you can walk everywhere, nice beach. Plenty of other travelers to hang with. Worth a visit in my opinion. Peace![/QUOTE]The Size of Sosua and what it is seems more fitting for a weekend getaway. Medellin is more my Nuremberg-track at this point. I like the variety of venues and options.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2387061]January is a good time to monger in Sosua. ...
Good luck. Let us know![/QUOTE]Thanks man, sounds like my kinda town, drift around a bit, have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. Retire to lodgings in time honored manner.
Glad to know I'll have plenty to choose from. CTG in 2005 was good, Cuba in 2000's, even Costa Rica evening time in Gringo Gulch was good. This sounds like it is up there with those highlights.
[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2387348]Thanks man, sounds like my kinda town, drift around a bit, have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. Retire to lodgings in time honored manner.
.[/QUOTE]You're welcome.
You have already hit on, what in my opinion, is the key to success with Sosua chicas. "have a beer, chat to girl, ascertain chemistry and attitude etc. ".
Some mongers limit their initial interaction with a chica, to negotiations on price. But for the price of a drink, or a slice of pizza, you can interview her in depth. That's actually for me part of the fun. She's a freelance so you don't pay for her time.
You can get a good feel for her attitude, is she in a god awful hurry? Always looking at her phone? Does she order a Hennessy? Personal hygiene?. If the chemistry doesn't seem right you can move on to the next, There's always a next!
Taking a strange third world hooker back to your room, always has a little risk attached, but a well traveled guy, who takes a little time, can reduce those risks mightily!
I was sitting on the malecon drinking a presidente light before I went up to pack and get ready for our road trip to Sosua and Cabarette at 7 am in the morning. Oh shit, the fellas pulled out a bottle of Johnny walker so now our 7 am departure is jeopardized. I played it safe and went to my room to pack and watch Dolemite on my android TV box kodi.
At 6 am the crew was up and getting ready and we departed at 7:36 am (what a surprise). Well the surprise was on us as it took us 45 minutes to finally maneuver the SD traffic and hit the open road. The trip was uneventful except the Santiago bypass gave us some problems.
Checked in my hotel (more on the hotel when I leave). Went to the treehouse on the beach and greeted Sherman. At 1 pm the parade started and I had a hamburger, two waters and a pinacolada sin alcohol for 524 pesos.
I finally took a tour of the town to confirm what I saw. Damn Sosua is full of fat girls and even fatter dudes. Dudes outnumbered the girls. I saw crackhead, pregnant girls and one girl even had a cast on her left leg. Ask a girl her name and she showed you her ass first. I kid you not. I must have seen 100 girls and only five girls above a 7. What the fuck happened to Sosua?
OK this is the day crew and it is the third string so hopefully Sosua will shine tonight.
BTW, the jazz festival is Friday night at 8 pm at playa Alicia. Saturday and Sunday in cabarette.
Had 3 girls this week text me on whatap that they had not eaten in 3 days. Please feed me popi.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2387685]Damn Sosua is full of fat girls and even fatter dudes. Dudes outnumbered the girls. I saw crackhead, pregnant girls and one girl even had a cast on her left leg. Ask a girl her name and she showed you her ass first. I kid you not.[/QUOTE]Well what did you expect with Old Kool always wanting to feed hoes at Bailey's and all.[QUOTE=OldKool;2387704]Had 3 girls this week text me on whatap that they had not eaten in 3 days. Please feed me popi.[/QUOTE]
Reporting from the Old el flow now as I hope to find something good. Might be a date with Cuba libres tonight. Got some good intel from guys that live here. I'm going to break down the state of Sosua when I get time. The game is no longer in Sosua. Wassap and the "Villa Boys" have stolen all the quality out of Sosua. And an OG said the Sosua pussy no longer has culture. More later.
I feel like a parent who has to put his child up for adoption or having to put a family dog to sleep after 15 years.
Started the night at 8 pm at the jazz festival on playa Alicia. Great international talent, great eye candy with a nice mixture of upscale locals and tourists. Drinks were expensive and the ocean back drop set the scene nicely.
At 10 pm the strip called me and off I went. Posted up at the old El Flow because they had the Lakers vs Dallas game on the tube. The police were chasing the girls so they would run but be laughing like it was a game of tag. No never seen as many cops as last night.
The girls: Long fake eyelashes, tight spandex shorts stuffed up their ass cracks and showing their camel toes, no underwear, fake ponytails, beer bellies with no shame, toes and nails done cheaply etc. Waited but couldn't find anything early to my liking.
Was watching the game when I saw Joe on the other side of the street. Hit him on wassap and he joined me. Joe is an OG (veteran). Lived in Charmicos 15 years ago but now lives in San Isidro in SD. Tall, dark skinned, 67 yo, kango hat and nicely dressed. We both took in the scene and compared notes as I picked his brain. He said he was glad the jazz festival was only in Sosua for one day before moving to Cabarette because he couldn't take but one night of this circus with elephants, bears and horses. He also said the young dudes had taken over and were disrespectful. They called him pops and told him they don't care how Sosua once was. They said it was now their Sosua as they had taken over.
After Joe left the police again were chasing girls and this fine light skinned Haitian was standing in front of me. I gave her the once over from top to bottom. No tattoos, nice toes and pretty light brown skin. She saw this and asked what? I said I had to give her a ten and she smiled and gave me a handshake. I grabbed her hand and flipped it to see her hand more closely and she had the hands of a truck driver. I told her she was now a 7 as she snatched her hands back in embarrassment. She used this opportunity to sit down next to me so I asked how much money she wanted. She replied 3 k for one hour 4 k for two. Our conversation was over then as I turned my attention back to the circus. She asked what the problem was? I told her it was late and raining and* if she said 3 k for the rest of the night it would have been a better representation but she said they only do hourly. I explained further that she lives alone and wouldn't you want to spend the night in my nice apartment and then she said OK for 5 k. Fuck this I then crossed the street to hangout with the guys I came with at the old Rumba spot.
Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request.
The Villa boys are the big ballers LOL. They come in groups and pay top dollar for villas with pool usually in casa Linda. They have the best girls at a premium price.
Anyway I'm at Flame and the owner Vaughn came over and shook my hand. Vaughn is a smooth dude so I picked his brain. He said the police have scared the premium talent away from walking the strip and they are now only working the back channels (wassap, Dominican cupid).
Wound up seeing a nice Haitian posted up across from New Garden and she said 2 k for TLN. Squirting tits and good energy.
Sosua is now for the newbies only fellas, especially when you remember the talent that used to be there.
Even further proof: The white euro guys and even the Dominican guys numbers have decreased significantly, like they have abandoned this low energy circus.
Even further proof: a young dude that lives in Sosua and they are saying the old farts are fucking up the game and they have are now running Sosua. They show photos of girls with big asses and horse faces.
In summary: Some blame the cops, some blame the NY dudes, others say the Villa boys and wassap are to blame but to me its time to put Rover (the dog) to sleep.
P.S. Sosua is still fun but I challenge any vet who has been coming to Sosua to tell me the street talent hasn't fallen off.
Sosua seems completely fucked. I believe I am part of the "new wave" of younger dudes who have come and ruined this place. Not me personally, but I am well aware of the type that has flocked to this place with the popularity boom of travel, cheapness of flights, and proliferation of websites like these which have been inviting new people to come to Sosua. My flight from NYC was only 212 $ into STI plus a 60 dollar cab ride. Lots of dope dealer and "baller" younger Northeastern USA guys who have never seen a prostitute before losing their minds over the big asses. I can also attest that these guys have little respect for the older mongers and some actually think this stuff only started a few years ago.
I am a 30 yr old fit and tall male from the NYC area who has been to multiple other monger locations, and traveled extensively otherwise. I've been to Sosua once previously, Boca Chica twice, and I will have to say now that I will likely not be coming back to Sosua ever again. I understand that it has a legendary reputation and major following amongst some older mongers, but newbies would be much better served taking their money to Cartagena or elsewhere for a better first time point and click experience, especially for SWs.
The quality of girls at the Clocktower and in the nearby free clubs in Cartagena beats all of Sosua as far as I can see it. Colombians are also a little less pushy when it comes to trying to sell you shit.
The street talent in Sosua has dropped dramatically, and Tinder and the rest of the apps have flaky girls asking for 5 K and up on average. Let's not forget the "leche papi leche papi" when you are four strokes in.
I remember coming back in March of this year it wasn't this bad, but now the girls are disgusting.
Trashy outfits on money grubbing chicas. Can I also tell you about the number of unashamed diseased ridden girls walking around, and misrepresenting themselves on the dating apps? I met up with a chica I spoke to for two months before coming on Tinder, and she showed up to my apartment with a massive herpes sore on her bottom lip and was upset I didn't want to have sex with her! Herpes and cold sores are definitely a theme here as I was approached by a few clearly infected girls near Classicos!
I know it is common, but something of a major boner kill! Will never BB in this place or anywhere else as I enjoy my smooth bump free penis and lips. I am very happy that my spanish has improved so I can start to communicate with regular girls more, because the SW talent is garbage tier here in Sosua.
I have been here since Thursday and only been with three girls, best was a 6/10 Haitian girl with a fucking face tattoo! I am into SWs, but much prefer what you get in Brazil or Colombia.
The beach in Sosua is shit, and with the death of the street scene I cannot see much value here for anyone. Spanish speakers would be better served taking their language skills to somewhere else, this place has severely dropped in quality and rapidly increasing in price.
Averaging 3 K for short time for girls after around 1 AM. Can get all night for the same, but will depend on the chica as some may want to leave and some may want to sleep in a nicer place.
As of this moment girl quality is so low, I believe this may be my first mongering trip I am coming back home with money in my pocket. I am not trying to hate on this place, maybe it is a bad week or the police crackdown is just in full effect but I am not enjoying myself as much as other places.
Currently siting at the old Rumbas waiting for the Canelo fight surveying the strip and the selection is a little better probably because I don't see the strong police presence like last night. * Miguel is strong on the door also so no street rats allowed.
The girls look fresh and are ready for Saturday night.
Its some honeys out tonight but lots if dudes.
Lets talk some positives: Even with all these dudes and wolfpacks I haven't seen not one argument. Everyone seems at peace and having a good time. There is a lot of new developments in Sosua. The known street hustlers have toned down there hustle. Matter of fact one popular street hustler was seen last week on YouTube and Facebook going to jail for fighting in Sosua (Dominican vs Dominican) . If you have been to Sosua you have seen him. Two popular business owners say they arent being forced to move down to the Ahnvee end. The beach vendors say business is good. Puerto Plata is experiencing an influx of new American expats that used to frequent Sosua.
With all the negative international press, Sosua seems to be booming as more weekend millionaires are coming and spending. It seems the newbies who claim to now run Sosua are spending money. Quality is down but the fat girls appear to be eating good LOL.
[QUOTE=PeeWeeHerman;2388100]..........The beach in Sosua is shit............[/QUOTE]I am not one to advertise Sosua but it is difficult to take you seriously when you say this. I love Sosua beach, the water is lovely and enjoyable and swimming and cavorting there was always a major part of my escapades.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2387917]I feel like a parent who has to put his child up for adoption or having to put a family dog to sleep after 15 years.
Started the night at 8 pm at the jazz festival on playa Alicia. Great international talent, great eye candy with a nice mixture of upscale locals and tourists. Drinks were expensive and the ocean back drop set the scene nicely.
At 10 pm the strip called me and off I went. Posted up at the old El Flow because they had the Lakers vs Dallas game on the tube. The police were chasing the girls so they would run but be laughing like it was a game of tag. No never seen as many cops as last night.
The girls: Long fake eyelashes, tight spandex shorts stuffed up their ass cracks and showing their camel toes, no underwear, fake ponytails, beer bellies with no shame, toes and nails done cheaply etc. Waited but couldn't find anything early to my liking.
Was watching the game when I saw Joe on the other side of the street. Hit him on wassap and he joined me. Joe is an OG (veteran). Lived in Charmicos 15 years ago but now lives in San Isidro in SD. Tall, dark skinned, 67 yo, kango hat and nicely dressed. We both took in the scene and compared notes as I picked his brain. He said he was glad the jazz festival was only in Sosua for one day before moving to Cabarette because he couldn't take but one night of this circus with elephants, bears and horses. He also said the young dudes had taken over and were disrespectful. They called him pops and told him they don't care how Sosua once was. They said it was now their Sosua as they had taken over.
After Joe left the police again were chasing girls and this fine light skinned Haitian was standing in front of me. I gave her the once over from top to bottom. No tattoos, nice toes and pretty light brown skin. She saw this and asked what? I said I had to give her a ten and she smiled and gave me a handshake. I grabbed her hand and flipped it to see her hand more closely and she had the hands of a truck driver. I told her she was now a 7 as she snatched her hands back in embarrassment. She used this opportunity to sit down next to me so I asked how much money she wanted. She replied 3 k for one hour 4 k for two. Our conversation was over then as I turned my attention back to the circus. She asked what the problem was? I told her it was late and raining and* if she said 3 k for the rest of the night it would have been a better representation but she said they only do hourly. I explained further that she lives alone and wouldn't you want to spend the night in my nice apartment and then she said OK for 5 k. Fuck this I then crossed the street to hangout with the guys I came with at the old Rumba spot.
Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request.
The Villa boys are the big ballers LOL. They come in groups and pay top dollar for villas with pool usually in casa Linda. They have the best girls at a premium price.
Anyway I'm at Flame and the owner Vaughn came over and shook my hand. Vaughn is a smooth dude so I picked his brain. He said the police have scared the premium talent away from walking the strip and they are now only working the back channels (wassap, Dominican cupid).
Wound up seeing a nice Haitian posted up across from New Garden and she said 2 k for TLN. Squirting tits and good energy.
Sosua is now for the newbies only fellas, especially when you remember the talent that used to be there.
Even further proof: The white euro guys and even the Dominican guys numbers have decreased significantly, like they have abandoned this low energy circus.
Even further proof: a young dude that lives in Sosua and they are saying the old farts are fucking up the game and they have are now running Sosua. They show photos of girls with big asses and horse faces.
In summary: Some blame the cops, some blame the NY dudes, others say the Villa boys and wassap are to blame but to me its time to put Rover (the dog) to sleep.
P.S. Sosua is still fun but I challenge any vet who has been coming to Sosua to tell me the street talent hasn't fallen off.[/QUOTE]The talent has moved around a little since you were last there! And, they all have smart phones now! A lot wouldn't be caught dead on the main drag after 5 pm.
But your report is all over the place, and hard to follow!
So which is it MR GoGo?
Your "good intel" sources said "the young dudes had taken over", and the other one says, "the old farts are fucking up the game and they are now running Sosua".
Then you blame the "NY dudes, others say the Villa boys", and newbies!
That covers just about all the folks you'll ever see in Sosua, lol
Then you say it's "booming". So it must be booming with the regular crowd, old farts, young dudes, NY dudes, Villa boys, and newbies! Maybe they are not getting your "good intel" lol
Anyway I assumed you've gone back immediately to SD, because you are too smart to spend good money in such a shithole! lol
Hey Oakie,
Sorry for the mix up but I was reporting from the strip, sipping a Cuba libre and watching the game. Not as formal as from reporting at home. I think I said the young guy said the old guy was fucking up the game and they (The young guys) were now running things. I don't think I ever said one city, NY guys, screwed up the game. I think I relayed what some were saying. The Miami, Chicago, LA etc guys all ball out. I came with 300 usd and didn't have to go to the ATM once which is a first. You are very smart to not visit Sosua after 5 pm, I will follow you and do the same in the future. Peace.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2388256]I am not one to advertise Sosua but it is difficult to take you seriously when you say this. I love Sosua beach, the water is lovely and enjoyable and swimming and cavorting there was always a major part of my escapades.[/QUOTE]I also think sosua beach is quite nice! Pretty, chill, fun! I usually hit at least 2 places. Have a beer, chat with friends, enjoy the view and the eye candy. I rarely miss a day on the beach when I'm there.
I just cam back a month ago. Had a great time, added a couple of chicas to the team, and didn't pay more than 2500. The day time can be weak. The better looking chicas tend to wait and hit merengue and Classico. So if you don't have contacts you have to wait. But I can't wait to get back. I have 2 friends who just moved there and their quite happy! LOL. But to each his own. Gogo is my bro!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2388345]I also think sosua beach is quite nice! Pretty, chill, fun! I usually hit at least 2 places. Have a beer, chat with friends, enjoy the view and the eye candy. I rarely miss a day on the beach when I'm there.
I just cam back a month ago. Had a great time, added a couple of chicas to the team, and didn't pay more than 2500. The day time can be weak. The better looking chicas tend to wait and hit merengue and Classico. So if you don't have contacts you have to wait. But I can't wait to get back. I have 2 friends who just moved there and their quite happy! LOL. But to each his own. Gogo is my bro![/QUOTE]Always down bro. What we need is more guys reporting no matter how they feel. You always do a report and tell us what is happening in Sosua. The Sosua board had Bern dry lately, hopefully my report will creste dialog not arguments.
To hear that people are leaving in droves would be good news for an old fart like me. I have not had any use of the main drag or the clubs in a long time, have had no problem about high money demands or bait and switch and so forth that people lament about constantly, or about finding suitable talent. Food is good and people at large are friendly and the place is small. I only wish flights were not this bloody pricey, to even get to STI for a quick weekend.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2387757]Reporting from the Old el flow now as I hope to find something good. Might be a date with Cuba libres tonight. Got some good intel from guys that live here. I'm going to break down the state of Sosua when I get time. The game is no longer in Sosua. Wassap and the "Villa Boys" have stolen all the quality out of Sosua. And an OG said the Sosua pussy no longer has culture. More later.[/QUOTE]Just like face book is killing things in MDE. All the lazy mongers are using the internet to find girls, and they are paying thru the nose.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2388265]The talent has moved around a little since you were last there! And, they all have smart phones now! A lot wouldn't be caught dead on the main drag after 5 pm.
But your report is all over the place, and hard to follow!
So which is it MR GoGo?
Your "good intel" sources said "the young dudes had taken over", and the other one says, "the old farts are fucking up the game and they are now running Sosua".
Then you blame the "NY dudes, others say the Villa boys", and newbies!
That covers just about all the folks you'll ever see in Sosua, lol
Then you say it's "booming". So it must be booming with the regular crowd, old farts, young dudes, NY dudes, Villa boys, and newbies! Maybe they are not getting your "good intel" lol
Anyway I assumed you've gone back immediately to SD, because you are too smart to spend good money in such a shithole! lol[/QUOTE]What I don't get is this part: "Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request."
That sounds fckn great too me! 9's and 10's, why didn't he go into Classicos?
I'm genuinely curious since it seems to be some great talent in Sosua.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2388465]What I don't get is this part: "Went up to Flame at midnight. Flame is the bar across from Classicos and I always post up in the window with the Classicos view. OK, I'm seeing the good talent now going into classicos, some 9 and 10's. * Saw two beautiful Venezuelan girls come out and jump on the back of a motochoncho, probably the Villa boys have put in a wassap request."
That sounds fckn great too me! 9's and 10's, why didn't he go into Classicos?
I'm genuinely curious since it seems to be some great talent in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.
I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.
Any more questions?
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2388451]Just like face book is killing things in MDE. All the lazy mongers are using the internet to find girls, and they are paying thru the nose.[/QUOTE]Is this like all the lazy shoppers using Amazon to find their goods and paying through the nose? I thought the internet has made it easier to get products (including pussy) at reduced prices. There is little overhead and less middlemen to get a cut, in effect keeping prices down. With thousands of chicks in one location at your fingertips, you can click on the next chick way faster that you can get your ass up and over to that next bar with 5 chicks to choose from.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2388279]Hey Oakie,
Sorry for the mix up but I was reporting from the strip, sipping a Cuba libre and watching the game. Not as formal as from reporting at home. I think I said the young guy said the old guy was fucking up the game and they (The young guys) were now running things. I don't think I ever said one city, NY guys, screwed up the game. I think I relayed what some were saying. The Miami, Chicago, LA etc guys all ball out. I came with 300 usd and didn't have to go to the ATM once which is a first. You are very smart to not visit Sosua after 5 pm, I will follow you and do the same in the future. Peace.[/QUOTE]Nothing personal here, Mr GoGo, you are still my muse!
You got me here in the first place with your positive Sosua Reports 10 years ago, and you are right on that it has changed a lot since then. Some folks have moved on, and others have taken their place!
This board is like a NFL Team site. We have fans of Team Sosua, and fans of other teams, it's all good!
It was you who issued a "challenge" in your post, and as a fan, I had to respond.
I got a "family" of regulars down here, one 7, a couple of 8's and two 10's, who are based in PP, Cab and SD. My main lady is the 7, she's totally dedicated, domesticated, always cooks for the gang, and a smart momma to the others. We all party together on weekends at their places or mine, and we all sleep happily in the same couple rooms, sometimes in the same bed, where I get to fuck the others too, and if I'm too tired, sometimes they fuck each other. LOL. We party on the beach and at night at our two or three local bars, and everybody has a good time. They are not into the Classico, or main drag stuff. Our group toast is "Correcto, Respecto, Perfecto!", and no drama is allowed!
I know my local bar/restaurant owners here and don't have to be running off to an ATM, I can just leave the tab and pay later! Try that at home, Lol
Then I get 3 or 4 days during the week to chill, read, walk, swim, watch sports, computer, and hang out with local buddies, and other amigas to keep some respecto independence! When you actually live here, you can really get organized. Things here are so good for me that for the first time in 10 years, I allowed my son to join me for a couple weeks. He was impressed by how my Sosua "family" keep me happy and healthy here, and young, on a limited budget!
My only complaint about Sosua is the heat, but for me this is the life!
Love ya, man!
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2388487]Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.
I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.
Any more questions?[/QUOTE]There are some of us that just goes after the 9's and the 10's Regardless of what vibes they're giving off. IMO More seasoned vets Won't jump headfirst into the crowd they will lay back and read the vibes. Gogo knew what those chicas vibes were. Those girls were getting paid and expect to be paid based on their looks. And they are getting their money and their attitude reflects it.
They are there giving guys the girl of their dreams. I can't hate on them. I always say when you start mongering you get the chica of your dreams. Then that wears off and you realize you rather have the girl you could have fun with. Those very pretty chicas get mechanical real fast.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2388487]Why not ask me that question? I'm not paying the Venezuelan prices in Sosua. On Friday night at midnight in Classicos those 9's and 10's are the premium girls at the premium hour and I'm not pressed to over pay for pussy. I would rather pay a humble appreciative Haitian 2 k at 1 am for TLN rather than some uppity, 9 or 10 that will expect top dollar for an hour. IMO the 9's and 10's are usually lousy fucks.
I don't like to be in packed crowds hence me sitting alone from my roomy stoop at Flame. And last, I don't do hourly fucks.
Any more questions?[/QUOTE]The Venezuelonas definitely seem to have agreed amongst themselves to charge 3 k short term with chupa con condom. I'm not paying it. Much better options from haitians and even some Dominicanas. Your experience will vary depending upon your people skills and your Spanish. I like merengue, but I don't do classico every weekend. When I do an hour is good enough for me. I agree it gets way too crowded. I'll let the weekend dudes live out their rap video fantasy! LOL. Peace.
About 3 years ago I caught this Venezolana fresh off the boat for 1 k in BC. She would be walking the beach with four other girls selling candy, liquor and some kind of desert. They seemed nervous and shy but one was a little older (32) and she caught my fancy. I would stop her every pass she made till she finally remembered my name. The next day I saw her in the street and we talked. She had been there a few days and lived in a one bedroom apartment with the four girls. We traded numbers, I think they all shared the same two phones and I was able to lure her to my hotel to have a beer with me but she also brought her fat friend. After a few beers I offered her 1 k to spend some time in my apartment while her friend waited in the front bar area.
She was shy in the room and the sex wasn't good but I was happy to have gotten that far. We repeated the same deal for the next three days and the sex got a lot better.
I left and went to the states and came back 2 months later and wow. She was now in SD and told me via wasssp that her fee was 5 k and she also sent photos of friends that were also available. She came down to 4 k but I passed. We just chatted on wassap the next few visits and she was eventually married to a Dominicano to keep from being sent back to her home.
If you can catch a new girl fresh of the boat move fast because they rise quickly. Even the Venezolanas in the Casas don't last long because they eventually build their own client list on the side and guys are paying big for these exotic beautiful girls. So I can imagine what two Venezolanas would cost in Classicos, above my fixed budget retirement LOL.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2389124]
If you can catch a new girl fresh of the boat move fast because they rise quickly. Even the Venezolanas in the Casas don't last long because they eventually build their own client list on the side and guys are paying big for these exotic beautiful girls. So I can imagine what two Venezolanas would cost in Classicos, above my fixed budget retirement LOL.[/QUOTE]IMO you have to give it up to the Venezolanas. They have found the perfect location to sell their product at premium prices. They are a rare commodity to us fat pocket itching hard dick Americans.
I've seen guys that will give their left nut to have a notch in the belt for these Chica's. They are in high demand and they can operate independently as most of the Chica's in the Sue. Their prices are higher than the standard local price and they are selling. Totally based on not being Dominican or Haitian. It's not like they have the reputation of the Brazilians when it comes to performance.
Honestly I've only seen a few that made me double look. I think Parkinson said it best. How does a refugee, trying to escape economic and political turmoil run to another country, and set up shop to sell a similar product at a higher than local prices befuddles me. The Haitians are still trying to figure it out.
The DR is a blessing to them and the Americans are there saviors. Anyone that goes to Colombia knows that shit doesn't work in there country. They are not going to set up shop, sell their product at premium prices, and eat better than the Colombians in Colombia.
I want to thank Oakie, Grownman, Brother P and John Gault for their replies and opinions. I'm back in SD with my girlfriend safely and will fade into my simple life and fade out for awhile. Peace.
Damn my bad, and Tempoecorto and Mr Eand Peewee Herman
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2389204]IMO you have to give it up to the Venezolanas. I think Parkinson said it best. How does a refugee, trying to escape economic and political turmoil run to another country, and set up shop to sell a similar product at a higher than local prices befuddles me. The Haitians are still trying to figure it out.
[b]The DR is a blessing to them and the Americans are there saviors[/b]. Anyone that goes to Colombia knows that shit doesn't work in there country. [/QUOTE]Exactly. Because Surf down in Medellin giving them same hoes $10!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2389418]Exactly. Because Surf down in Medellin giving them same hoes $10![/QUOTE]What surf had no problems paying 3000 a day.
No wonder he hasn't came back. He's getting 6 to 1 in Medellin.
As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??
I guess they're moving all the bars down Past the Europa near the casino.
[QUOTE=PeeWeeHerman;2388100]Sosua
Averaging 3 K for short time for girls after around 1 AM. Can get all night for the same, but will depend on the chica as some may want to leave and some may want to sleep in a nicer place.
As of this moment girl quality is so low, I believe this may be my first mongering trip I am coming back home with money in my pocket. I am not trying to hate on this place, maybe it is a bad week or the police crackdown is just in full effect but I am not enjoying myself as much as other places.[/QUOTE]Man you paint a very vivid picture. Da Sue sky finally seems to be falling. After so many false alarms. I guess it always will be a spot to pick up chicas. But the quality will nowhere near what it used to be going at its current rate. The last time I was there it was Saturday night. It was five of us coming back from Classico. Only Two of us had made a choice. And that one was offered at the very last moment on the way walking home.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2389721]As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??[/QUOTE]From what I've been reading if not certainly near. I can't believe I'd never see the Sue again. Such great memories.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2389721]As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??[/QUOTE]Can't wait!
No more mongers! No more weekend warriors "spoiling the market".
The chica's will be so appreciative of us ex-pats, that they will lower their prices. And my rent will stop going up every year! lol.
And hopefully, the usual suspects assembling here predicting the End is Nigh, for years now, will have moved on, because it actually happened!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2389721]As I write this the military police are shutting down the bars in Sosua. The end is here??[/QUOTE]Well change has been slowly approaching for awhile now. I'm not worried. The north coast will always have plenty of chicas. Things may become more chil with out the Santo Domingo chicas. Long as I have the beach I'm good. Might be a little boring but chicas won't be a problem. No worries!
One of my favs sent a whatap text adviing me that everthing was shut down. My girl is a upscale pro. I have a trip planned for next month. I have enough girls on my phone to have an awesome time but I a waiting to see where everything ends up. The deck is being schuffled I hope I get a wimming hand.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2389913]Well change has been slowly approaching for awhile now. I'm not worried. The north coast will always have plenty of chicas. Things may become more chil with out the Santo Domingo chicas. Long as I have the beach I'm good. Might be a little boring but chicas won't be a problem. No worries![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2389897]Can't wait!
No more mongers! No more weekend warriors "spoiling the market".
The chica's will be so appreciative of us ex-pats, that they will lower their prices. And my rent will stop going up every year! lol.
And hopefully, the usual suspects assembling here predicting the End is Nigh, for years now, will have moved on, because it actually happened!
With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers. I am not fan of the FNG's and such but don't forget the golden rule of "supply and demand". Let's just hope it does move down the street and continues to have the bars, chicas, and the nightlife myself and others have come to enjoy for so many years. This reminds me of the "booty triangle" as it's called from Help Disco to Copacabana beach to Balcony's and back in Rio we once enjoyed before they decided to "make a difference" and killed it for a whole lot of folks both foreign and domestic. It's never come back and neither have the johns.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2390432]With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers. I am not fan of the FNG's and such but don't forget the golden rule of "supply and demand". Let's just hope it does move down the street and continues to have the bars, chicas, and the nightlife myself and others have come to enjoy for so many years.
Peace,[/QUOTE]Just joking Nightwhaler!
Sosua will be serving up fresh pu**y for a while, yet!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2390434]Just joking Nightwhaler!
Sosua will be serving up fresh pu**y for a while, yet![/QUOTE]I certainly hope so. . :)
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2390432]
With all due respect, there will be no market without the weekend warriors and mongers.[/QUOTE]Why not? There was a market before they started arriving in clusters. And a market with cheaper and better quality products.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2390511]Why not? There was a market before they started arriving in clusters. And a market with cheaper and better quality products.[/QUOTE]I can only speak from my personal experience since 2011 when I first visited after Help closed down. So I will take your word for it because I have nothing to compare it to because it has remained pretty much the same since I started visiting. Thank you for the input. Let's hope it makes a rebound in any case.
Peace,
In some business when the service get low the prices go up. When everybody selling the same services prices stay low. Is similar to what's going on in the Sue. Example: because they cut off chicas hanging out on the street selling The same service offered in the clubs; we noticed an increase of asking prices. Most of us are now limited to Classico and the other small bars to buy services. Unless you had a supplier that sold you service at regular prices, you had to submit to what they were asking in the clubs. The chicas unionize and quickly and took advantage of our Limited access to them.
For the Sue as a whole, it's business as usual. For a lot of us vets this is not the Sue we are used to. Vets like Gogo who don't have main contacts in the Sue, can read those high price asking unionize Chica's from a mile away. Before he pay those prices, he would save his money for another time and not buy anything. I can only imagine what Mr. E would say when a chica tells him 3000 pesos for an hour!
The weekend warriors serve their purpose. They came because a lot of chicas would normally don't be in Sosua during the week will come on the weekends. There were enough independent chicas to go around for everyone. The prices were competitive even with the weekend Warriors wasting a lot of money trying to be Ballers.
I remember one time I saw a school bus full of young horny Athletic British guys in Boca Chica headed to the Sue. It had to been about 25 of them. Once we got there I only seen about two or three of them on the strip. The rest were occupied. There were so many chicas that met the demand for services, it was enough for everyone to go around. Oh how I miss the Santiago party chicas that came with their clicks on the weekend.
I've been to the Sue on a normal weekday. It was boring as hell. A lot of Hardcore pros and locals. However they were enough regular guys and ex pats to satisfy the demand. Personally I wouldn't travel 3 1/2 hours to the north coast just to experience what I've noticed during the week day to the Sue. The beach? Well maybe if you're not from the East Coast or an area where there are beaches you might find some stimulation in Sosua's beach.
The only thing Sosua can offer me is the influx of 100's of chicas to sell services at a competing prices. Take that out the equation and anyone that is happy about the weekend warriors not there and want they bring to the table can have that sorry ass city! What type of city would it be if there wasn't sex tourism going on? How many chicas will come on the weekend if they knew that it was only locals and ex-pats living there? I can only imagine that water hole drying up.
On another note, I think it's bittersweet that the bars have been closed. The area needs cleansing. The Chica union needs to be dismantled. I hear many people talk about how the Sue could not survive without sex tourism. All of that talk makes sense, but until Someone with major political And economical influence feel the lightness in their pockets will Things be normalized. For now The vast majority of voting citizens or who's ever in charge is not concerned. The citizens that vote in the Sue have elected their officials to conduct their business as they see fit. They decide on how they want their city to be.
I said it before, I think some major players that have big political and economical influence is trying to rezone The poor developed area that they're trying to make the red light district. Could you imagine the value of property increase once you close down the bars and force them to a particular area? After CMP and passion closed there was no reason To walk past Europa. IMO All of that area dropped in value for pesos on a mil. If you are a smart businessman with inside promises of a rezone area you could buy low and Rent high. We know Dominicans love doing this.
While I feel sorry for a lot of single mothers that provide services for extra cash for their kids especially for the upcoming Christmas season, I understand the current situation involves decisions out of my league.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2391066]Personally I wouldn't travel 3 1/2 hours to the north coast just to experience what I've noticed during the week day to the Sue. The beach?
The only thing Sosua can offer me is the influx of 100's of chicas to sell services at a competing prices. Take that out the equation and anyone that is happy about the weekend warriors not there and want they bring to the table can have that sorry ass city! What type of city would it be if there wasn't sex tourism going on?[/QUOTE]With all the beautiful beaches in DR, you would have to be off your rocker talking about you are going to Sosua for a beach if there were no hoes there.
I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there. The other day my chick in Puerto Plata was saying how she misses me. I asked her what we would do if I come there. She said many things. I said many things my ass, you tell me now. All she could come up with was fuck, eat, and swim at the beach.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2391066]I hear many people talk about how the Sue could not survive without sex tourism.[/QUOTE]Every other city in DR is surviving without sex tourism, why wouldn't Sosua? Mongers always think a city needs them. They thought the same thing about Rio before they closed Help Disco, and Rio has 13 million people.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2391082]
I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there.[/QUOTE]Two things come to mind. Excuse me for talking but I'm high.
I remember my friend posted a Facebook photo of him in about eight guys in the mountains hiking in Arizona. They look like they were enjoying themselves. Why'all look like you're having a ball but please tell me some women are coming later.
About four of us were on a carnival cruise. We all got a good work out and went straight to the hot tub. I enjoyed myself for about two minutes. We cool but four guys in a hot tub and no Women I'm out.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2391066]
I said it before, I think some major players that have big political and economical influence is trying to rezone The poor developed area that they're trying to make the red light district. Could you imagine the value of property increase once you close down the bars and force them to a particular area? After CMP and passion closed there was no reason To walk past Europa. IMO All of that area dropped in value for pesos on a mil. If you are a smart businessman with inside promises of a rezone area you could buy low and Rent high. We know Dominicans love doing this.
.[/QUOTE]OK I see I'm way behind the curve. The clubs High Caribbean and New York Drinks are already out there and open for business in the new red light District. They're located next the police department. Lots of Land are being advertised for the sale next to these locations. IMO Promises had to be made for someone to invest clubs up in this area. Makes me think there won't be any going back to the old ways no time soon. No more sky is falling! The Sue has clouds on the ground.
Thank you for the video Gogo! Definitely bolstered what I was saying.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2391082]With all the beautiful beaches in DR, you would have to be off your rocker talking about you are going to Sosua for a beach if there were no hoes there.
I got a buddy that lives here in Thailand that also has a house in Sosua. The other day he was just saying how boring it is around there. The other day my chick in Puerto Plata was saying how she misses me. I asked her what we would do if I come there. She said many things. I said many things my ass, you tell me now. All she could come up with was fuck, eat, and swim at the beach.
Every other city in DR is surviving without sex tourism, why wouldn't Sosua? Mongers always think a city needs them. They thought the same thing about Rio before they closed Help Disco, and Rio has 13 million people.[/QUOTE]Sosua is not a city, it's a small pueblo, or a village. Everything bad about the DR is amplified in Sosua, like poor water supply, poor sewage, poor electric grid, too many people below the DR poverty line, few jobs, low tax revenue, and etc. Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive. Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money. Hell, the women rather fuck a foreigner for extra money then fuck a Dominican for free, so who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2391222]who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I guess you're right. Chicas Will always go there looking for gringos And guys will always go there with dineros in search of the chicas looking for them. It's an international known understanding. The only ones that will have problems or people like me who are used to that all set up. While I will be complaining about everything being so spread out; a newbie will be ready to hit the clubs and jump headfirst in.
While I'm complaining about not being able to walk from the club to my room; a newbie has paid 300 pesos for a ride with his Chica of choice for the night. For the Su its business as usual. I liked the Sue for its good and bad. Don't think I will ever go back there unless I'm showing a newbie. I can do Puerto Plata for that set up. But The Sue losing me is like losing your number one chica. Replace her with two more that can appreciate it.
And the beat goes on!
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2391222]Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive.[/QUOTE]Sosua is not going anywhere. Maybe the monger party version of Sosua is going somewhere. What keeps Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Cabrera, and Nagua alive? They don't have that kind of tourism and even less sex tourism.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2391222]Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money.[/QUOTE]That goes for damn near anywhere. One does not need to travel all the way to Sosua to find chicks to fuck for extra money. It was the open air brothel that drew people there. Same as Rio. Kill the open air brothel and the majority of mongers that were going before no longer go there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2391579]Sosua is not going anywhere. Maybe the monger party version of Sosua is going somewhere. What keeps Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Cabrera, and Nagua alive? They don't have that kind of tourism and even less sex tourism.
That goes for damn near anywhere. One does not need to travel all the way to Sosua to find chicks to fuck for extra money. It was the open air brothel that drew people there. Same as Rio. Kill the open air brothel and the majority of mongers that were going before no longer go there.[/QUOTE]Yea. Some mongers think the pueblo will die without them. Not true. Some bars and restaurants will close without them, but the town won't dry up and go away. Too many expats and snowbirds. Myself and most of my crew don't really care what they close. We all speak some Spanish and can make moves without the strip. 2 friends of mine moved there just before the closures and they haven't missed a beat! LOL.
I'm not sure this ahnvee set up will last. She may turn on them. I'm already seeing too many videos from there. Seems to me that's exactly what they don't want. These new mongers can't be discreet it seems. We shall see!
It seems everyone is adjusting to the new rules.
New clubs are drawing nice crowds. I have spoken to guys and girls on the ground. No one is complaining. I am a few weeks from testing the water. This does make reconsider where to stay and eat.
Just back from Sosua.
Big bars and disco closed in Main Street. But small bar / restaurants are open. Casino closer to the beach is open but the disco there is closed. Girls are not walking the streets like before. Police and Army people everywhere checking discos. They are making sure security is stringent in checking cedula.
Ahnee resort has a bar near the pool and disco at the back. Lots of girls. High caribe is open few girls there. Playa Chiquita has a disco and many girls there. All girls make the rounds between these three places. Supposedly entertainment venue is being built next to high Caribbean. Nobody knows when it will be finished. All the businesses on Main Street are complaining because of lack of business. Crowd and girls are down in numbers. Most girls I saw are ugly and old.
I got lucky to get a nicely proportioned girl from La Vega. Friendly with good attitude. But her snatch smelled little. But since I used condom no issues.
LT was 4000. I had some girls for ST for 2000. None are real pretty. Just great bodies with big boobs. They all say they are 25 years old but obviously older. La Vega girl is half way pretty. She gave me good service including BBBJ long time.
There were few stuck up Venezuela girls but I did not talk to them. Also went to kviar disco in Puerto Plata. Plenty of good looking girls but hard to make out who is available. Did talk to couple but they wanted 8000 all night. Took the La Vega girl to cabarete beach and had a good time. She wanted to give her number but I told her no need. Unless somebody is real pretty I do not want contact info.
My time is spent driving around, gambling, beach, food. The British guy who runs a restaurant on the way to the beach gave me a very good deal on lobster and fish. Good food. You cannot miss it because he has many British flags outside. Roads are good and re surfaced. Daytime is practically dead because no girls are walking around. Did not see many at the beach either or they were ugly and not worth a second look.
For a casual visitor sex is available if he settles for any pussy. Sosua is not dead.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2391931]Just back from Sosua.
Big bars and disco closed in Main Street. Girls are not walking the streets like before. Police and Army people everywhere checking discos.
Ahnee High caribe Playa Chiquita girls make the rounds between these three places. Supposedly entertainment venue is being built next to high Caribbean. Crowd and girls are down in numbers. Most girls I saw are ugly and old.
There were few stuck up Venezuela girls.
For a casual visitor sex is available if he settles for any pussy. Sosua is not dead.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the first fresh report since the changes. It is exactly how I envision the changes would effect The normal flow. IMO The police and the military will not be going anywhere anytime soon until the transition is completed and normal flow of action is fully adjusted to the new designated area. Promises have been made with the military and police on board.
Like mr. E said the only changes that will take place is The Party version most of us are accustomed to. For people like Olskool and Brother P this report is an understanding pre-warning adjustment. Then there are people like me that see it as a major kill. I see it like a chica you've been sessioning for years and giving her 4000 pesos. She's older not what she used to be physically but why'all have history and you know how to deal with her. You go out your way to make time for her. Besides that she lives next to a college where new talent could be seen. All of a sudden she tells you if you want to come and visit her now is 8000 pesos! No compromising! Some pay it and some take her out of the rotation.
Vens chicas have terrible attitudes. There's nothing worse than a hoe who has her head in the clouds. Thinking she's doing you a favor by providing you services. I can only imagine how those negative attitudes escalate in the bedroom. I could be wrong but I wouldn't take that chance and waste my time!
I predict the entertainment center, if one is being built will be finished by Super Bowl. I think by then the transition will be somewhat the norm. My man Ol said people are getting a custom to the new changes. I'm like. Indeed, what other choice do they have? Some people have limited their own choices and they're stuck dealing with the situation at hand.
I'm back in Sosua after a long vacation abroad Most of my info has been gathered through friends, various sites, YT etc. Since I've been back, I've noticed that some chicas patrol the streets around the new designated areas (close to where I live). I was coming home 2 days ago early afternoon, driving, and several chicas everybody should be familiar with were walking around looking for clients a few blocks from Ahnvee. I guess if they can't walk freely downtown, the designated area is where to expect to see them during the day. (and of course the beach).
I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that I'm going to be seeing a lot of zombie looking, hardcore / aggressive hoes walking around my area. The kind that you really don't want them to know where you live or stay.
Since everything is going to be so close to home, if I choose to, I could go to Ahnvee or High Caribbean to check out the scene. But I haven't been into the club scene downtown, why start now? For the most part, I'll just resume dealing with my regulars.
Another observation. Many of the chicas that are new to me are bigger / fatter. Huge asses. Big bodies, tits. Some from getting fat, and others from surgery. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the bigger / fatter chicks may be a little easier to negotiate with, whereas the real nice shapely chicks will demand more and won't budge. The latter won't be walking the streets, but will be inside Ahnvee, HC, , bars and casinos. Lets see how long that lasts before they realize they need our resources more than we need their individual juice boxes.
Even on the beach, most of the chicks passing by were big as shit. Many of the halfway decent looking chicks (that have been around awhile) have put on a ton of weight too. But they are still out there trying to hustle and asking for too much initially. I look forward to reading reports / insights from the guys that actually go to the clubs / casinos. Their intel on the current p4 p action in the new areas should be interesting / helpful.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2392797]I'm back in Sosua after a long vacation abroad Most of my info has been gathered through friends, various sites, YT etc. Since I've been back, I've noticed that some chicas patrol the streets around the new designated areas (close to where I live). I was coming home 2 days ago early afternoon, driving, and several chicas everybody should be familiar with were walking around looking for clients a few blocks from Ahnvee. I guess if they can't walk freely downtown, the designated area is where to expect to see them during the day. (and of course the beach).
I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that I'm going to be seeing a lot of zombie looking, hardcore / aggressive hoes walking around my area. The kind that you really don't want them to know where you live or stay.
Since everything is going to be so close to home, if I choose to, I could go to Ahnvee or High Caribbean to check out the scene. But I haven't been into the club scene downtown, why start now? For the most part, I'll just resume dealing with my regulars.
Another observation. Many of the chicas that are new to me are bigger / fatter. Huge asses. Big bodies, tits. Some from getting fat, and others from surgery. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that the bigger / fatter chicks may be a little easier to negotiate with, whereas the real nice shapely chicks will demand more and won't budge. The latter won't be walking the streets, but will be inside Ahnvee, HC, , bars and casinos. Lets see how long that lasts before they realize they need our resources more than we need their individual juice boxes.
Even on the beach, most of the chicks passing by were big as shit. Many of the halfway decent looking chicks (that have been around awhile) have put on a ton of weight too. But they are still out there trying to hustle and asking for too much initially. I look forward to reading reports / insights from the guys that actually go to the clubs / casinos. Their intel on the current p4 p action in the new areas should be interesting / helpful.[/QUOTE]You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!
I don't live there as you know.
During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!
Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon!
Things will even out. The hardcore girls will find places to prey on low hanging fruit. I remember Passions and CMB closing there was much crying and nashing of teeth but we kept it moving. The girls need our money and we want the booty. The bars and clubs want their cut. This rearrangement god be a very good thing for everyone.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2392805]You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!
I don't live there as you know.
During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!
Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2392908]This rearrangement god be a very good thing for everyone.[/QUOTE]You might be right Oski. I mean I can see the Santiago Party girls returning to the clubs once the police arrests of any Dominican or Haitian Cease. But playing the devils advocate; it's not hard to see the direction they're going in. The current reports only reinforce the Rezoning predicament and the state of the Sue. I'm just glad the dealer finally showed his hand and we can make our decisions of what moves we want to make.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2392805]You've been gone a long time! Welcome back bruh!
I don't live there as you know.
During my trips I always stayed on that end, not far from ahnvee, which had been closed for all the years I've been coming, 2012. I liked it because I could get a break from the strip when I wanted too. So like you I'm not pleased that the strollers will be so close. I'll be back soon so we shall see!
Like you I have a nice WhatsApp team, and their even more grateful now to be on the team. I don't expect the street chicas to catch on too soon, they arent that type. Anyway enjoy and be safe bruh. Se ya soon![/QUOTE]Thanks Ace! Me and my partner went to High Caribbean yesterday afternoon to check it out. They have an outside sports bar connected to the club. Interesting setup. A good place for chicas to go to get off the street, and score potential clients. We met one of the guys that works there. I believe he may be part owner. Definitely running things. The bar opens at 2 pm. Chicas are allowed to come in and park. As an incentive the chicas are given a free drink (or drinks?).
There were at least 12 to 20 chicas that came through while we were there. Some cute ones that I haven't seen (since I've been away several months). A few hippos. And a few vets that have been in Sosua for a few years now. Waitresses were cute, very attentive and friendly. There was a handful of male staff there. DJ, security, handy men etc. The manager / owner guy said the concept, is that all are welcome. I asked him if they were connected to Sosua Lights, he said yes. IMO all of the chicas I saw that passed through were Dominicans.
I'm guessing when the club opens up at 11 pm you'll see more Haitian chicas, followed by some of the same customers that were regulars at Sosua Lights, mixed with everybody else that comes to check it out. In the bar area, they had a small menu of food. Quick stuff, like chicken wings, burgers etc.
I was thinking. This may turn out to be workable, having most of the p4 p moving east within Sosua. One thing I don't think will be coming back, is the old school mentality of chicas that so many guys enjoyed. Back in the day. Decent service was about 65%. Less bait and switch. Not having a smart phone, meant less distractions from their clients. TLN's, were expected more. Many chicas wanted to stay the night even if they werent getting paid more. Happy Hours were attempted more,. Price structure was stable. Less hair weave, less butt work, more well dressed chicas late night.
So we have the designated areas setting up to handle the p4 p scene. But unfortunately we are still working with a whole different type of mentality in sex workers. We will have the venues, we will have the demand, but the supply of quality chicas though is still on the decline. Enough chicas are on the fence on whether or not Sosua is still where they should be. Others may make out on social media. Enough do both. FWIW, I sense a lot of guys will and have moved on. They are turned off or afraid of wasting their time and money. For the undesirable clowns that choose not to come to Sosua any more, that's a blessing.
Guys can and will find decent chicas to hire. It may be a challenge doing so.
I had a Sosua vet over last night. While she was with me, her phone was signaling an incoming message. She jumped to go get it. I said to her. You see that is one of the reasons many of you women blow the chance of repeat clients. You muggs always on your phonee. Can't put the phone down for one hour while you have a client. As soon as the mans back is turned, out pops the phone. 1st thing she did was what a local would do. Lie and make excuses for why she had to check her phone. I was only telling her because I have known her ever since she started in Sosua. Plus she gained a ton of weight. I think she is only 27 now. Her window of opportunity is slowly closing. Whatever I said was like, oh well. Checking for missed clients is more important nowadays. Reminds me of how some businesses operate. Sometimes you get better service if you call in, than actually being there in person. This is the generation and mentality that prevails these days.
I always liked the venue at high Carib. The place is very attractive but the solid Dominican girls do not like rubbing shoulders with the Haitian hotties. However the thing that excites me is having a spot for the early afternoon action. Once Rumbas was shut down the girls had nowhere to post up early. There have always been girls who do not like working at night. I am still looking for the silver lining in all the changes.
"Rescue our paradise," plan to stop prostitution in Sosúa.
"From the Cluster organization we support the measures suggested and implemented by the Office of the Attorney General of the Republic, the Pro-Active Committee of Sosúa, the Economic and Social Council of this municipality, integrated by the City Council, Ministry of Tourism (Mitur), the Council of Councilors, businessmen, representatives of churches, civil society, military organizations, the National Police, the Specialized Tourist Security Corps (Cestur) and the Puerto Plata Air Base, understanding that they seek to recover the pride and dignity of this community—one that has all the necessary elements to enhance its harmonious cultural, historical and family profile," adds the agency in a statement.
"We understand that the actions carried out by the competent authorities, under the strictest adherence to the Constitution and laws, while representing an important step towards the eradication of this scourge that has tarnished the good image of Sosúa, without a doubt come to reinforce the will and struggle of men and women who, with honest work, forge a better future for this destination," the group asserts.
"We reaffirm our institutional support and trust that the efforts that are now being carried out will be continuous and sustainable over time until this unique paradise on the North Coast of the Dominican Republic is rescued," concludes the CTDPP authorities.
In that same order, the main associations of Sosúa have shown their support for the actions that will be implemented to control prostitution in the multi-faceted tourist destination of the North.
This is the Sustainable Development Association of Sosúa (ADSS) and the Association of Hotels and Restaurants of Sosúa and Cabarete (Ashoresoca), who have expressed their support for the actions recently initiated by the authorities to control the disorder in the main streets of the Batey de Sosúa sector.
Being one of the main family tourist destinations in the country, in recent years Sosúa has become a sex tourism destination, due to the uncontrolled growth of prostitution in the center of this attractive municipality on the north coast of the country. This situation has alienated family tourism, both national and foreign, causing the closure of numerous hotels and restaurants, with the resulting unemployment and decline in the area, the statement said.
It is notable that, as part of the process of settlement and ordination of the municipality, last week the Attorney General's Office, assisted by members of the National Police and the Cestur, ordered the closure of several bars on Pedro Clisante street in the sector of El Batey, in Sosúa, applying the resolution of land use issued by the Chapter Hall of the City Council.
The measures have deserved the approval of the great majority of the population, as well as of the companies grouped in the ADSS and ASHORESOCA, main motivators of positive actions for the improvement of the municipality of Sosúa, as well as the different sectors that make up the Economic Council and Social of the Municipality of Sosúa (CESMS).
(Click link below to read more).
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2019/11/16/rescue-our-paradise-plan-to-stop-prostitution-in-sosua/[/URL]
When I was there (High Caribbean) it was Friday afternoon around 530 pm. The chicas that were there, and came later, appeared to be inspecting the scene for client potential. There were only about 7-10 guys there who were also there inspecting the scene, all of us older cats. Can I say conservative mongers? LOL Everything is all new to everybody stopping by.
All the guys were just chilling. The only interaction I recall is one customer dancing with one of the waitresses. Me talking to another. Except for the free drinks, the chicas looked bored. Eventually, they all moved on. My take. These days, enough chicas have built a rep of being flaky and untrustworthy. Plus enough guys don't want to be blowing money paying for drinks and food for chicas when it aint necessary or appreciated. The free drinks that Hc was giving out, the chicas didnt appear to appreciate that. Their attitude seemed like, "shit if you giving it away, sure I'll drink it"
So many guys arent going out their way to be sociable unless they are interested in hooking up or just enjoying the flirt. Don't want to be hasty and another chick or more interesting opportunity pops up. My buddy and I were just looking. Other guys were paired up with their buddies just talking. Chicas saw no action and eventually bounced. Of the chicks that did look interesting, they were with their crew but not making much eye contact the way chicas usually do. So it was kinda a bust for everybody. Waitresses were more interesting. But then they are hoping to get you to spend more money there.
I wish I could report on the club action later that night and tonight.
Tonight about 830 pm (Saturday) just happened to be out on my scooter in the Ahnvee area, and I see traffic is getting heavy. Couple of cars passed with chicas in it, motos moving people back and forth. Chicas mostly. Chicas patrolling the area on foot. I'm standing at the bar on the corner from Ahnvee. A trio of chicas walked past me and 3 other guys I know. Stopped to chat. 2 were cute. But the routine is, these muggs want US dollars for an hours time. And what kind of performance they putting out, who knows? I wasnt interested I had another old regular about 2 hrs earlier from PP. I guess it was too early for chicas to be piling into Ahnvee when there werent many guys in there to hustle.
I thought I was done for the night. About 5 this morning I get a message from another off and on regular. She frequents the club in Playa Chiquita. I let her come over. She pulls up on a moto with another chica. Moto driver must have been hungry. He stayed to finish his food while the other chica was sitting on the bike drinking a beverage. She was cute too. I shcould have got her digits for later. Here in Sosua, you don't always have to have a game plan or hunt down chicas Sometimes opportunities can fall in your lap. Letting the game come to you, instead of always trying to make something happen. Thirst can work for you, but it can also work against you. Indifference to outcome can work in your favor more often than not. Of course with limited time to work with, that can work against a guy on vacation.
So my club chica is fast asleep now after a quick session. Late 30's, always a good time. I like the fact that she's from the old school that got dressed up to go to Rumba, Dee Latin and Clasico. Still got the slim shapely figure. No attitude, no drama. No ridiculous expectations. No begging. She is one of the few chicas that do not call or text much. Most of my other regulars always stayed in touch angling to come by and earn some bread (enough have moved on since I took a long vacation from Sosua). Tonight was just her putting the cherry on top of a Saturday night. Weve hooked up in the wee hours before. Sometimes that's when I want some juice the most. As usual, we both get what we want.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2392969] I'm just glad the dealer finally showed his hand and we can make our decisions of what moves we want to make.[/QUOTE]I really like your comment About the dealer. Always good to have the last move.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2391222]Tourism of any kind keeps Sosua alive. Personally, I don't need the club scene to get sex in Sosua, because there are plenty of women there who work regular jobs and need extra money. Hell, the women rather fuck a foreigner for extra money then fuck a Dominican for free, so who are we fooling about changes in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I have visited Sosua several times and never taken a girl out of a club. I meet them on the beach during the day while relaxing, arrange to meet them later, eat dinner, perhaps would go to a small bar for a drink, and then go back to the casa. There may not be many things to do in Sosua, but if you only visit over three or for day trips, it's adequate for the trip, especially in the US is cold in the winter. Several days of 80 degree weather on the beach offer an escape, as do the women. I go for the weather and women, not the drama associated with many sex tourists who act like a few pesos makes them instant royalty.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2393383]. A trio of chicas walked past me and 3 other guys I know. Stopped to chat. 2 were cute. But the routine is, these muggs want US dollars for an hours time.
[/QUOTE]That's what I mean when I say the Chica union has got out a hand. They can't even tell OG's or season vets when they see them. They're pushing to establish the price and hourly tone. They are so used to getting paid by us gringos they're not even asking for pesos. What season vet makes it a habit of paying in US dollars?
IMO It's going to be a while before the dust settle.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2393598]I have visited Sosua several times and never taken a girl out of a club. I meet them on the beach during the day while relaxing, arrange to meet them later, eat dinner, perhaps would go to a small bar for a drink, and then go back to the casa. There may not be many things to do in Sosua, but if you only visit over three or for day trips, it's adequate for the trip, especially in the US is cold in the winter. Several days of 80 degree weather on the beach offer an escape, as do the women. I go for the weather and women, not the drama associated with many sex tourists who act like a few pesos makes them instant royalty.[/QUOTE]I agree! I'm usually in town for at least 10 days, and I get all my action away from the clubs. I usually chill and sleep off jet lag my first night, then the next day I'm early at the beach or walking around town for semi-pros. I have my ole reliables who only do call out service. There are some nice girls who have regular jobs in Sosua, or even POP, who will keep me company. But the police and politicians will never stop me from going to Sosua. In fact, I hope the fools close all the bars to let Sosua be a ghost town.
The mayor of Sosua is behaving like Marie Antoinette! Her cake is the dream that Sosua will be a family Disneyland instead of the DisneyLand that attract men and women to Sosua that has ben paying the taxes to allow the pueblo to have the semblance of a town. Look at the second photo. Sosua can't even adequately collect its trash, causing health concerns. Also, Sosua has children stand in front of the bars on PC every night when they should be safe at home, yet the police and politicians are not concerned about that. So as the first photo depicts what Sosua looks like, it also says Pranitium Bar location will be a fashion store! What? For Who? LOL! The girls all shop in Puerto Plata where clothes are inexpensive, and they buy from the Haitian girls! Tourists will not come to a beach town for fashion, if they come at all!
Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!
At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!
The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!
My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!
It's all good!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2394068]Sunday's pool party at Ahmvee was in high gear last weekend!
At least 50 chicas in tiny bikinis twerking their stuff around the pool! Reminiscent of the good old days!
The place was packed with guys who had no trouble locating the new party central!
My local bars are now on the monger radar, too! Cops have laid back, too!
It's all good![/QUOTE]Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2394230]Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years![/QUOTE]It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.
The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!
They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!
Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.
Nothing really changes for us.
I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.
The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!
On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.
They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon!
[QUOTE=Bravo;2394230]Only problem is the idiots who have followed the crowd to the new scene. These dumb asses are posting videos of the bikini party on youtube!! If guys just learned to keep their fucking mouth quiet instead of having a "LOOK AT ME, I'm A BOSS" attitude, we could enjoy our endeavors for years![/QUOTE]Yep. In the short time since bourbon closed I've seen way too many videos out of ahnvee. The powers that be want things quiet. I don't see things being allowed to continue. The video dudes are drawing to much attention. I'm staying out of ahnvee next trip.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2394240]It seems things got out of hand at Ahmvee.
The cops arrested a whole bunch of chicas as they were leaving the party!
They got to decide if they want a party scene at that end of town, or not!
Doesn't affect us regulars and ex pats, in any way.
Nothing really changes for us.
I for one already got more pussy than I can handle! LOL.
The big change to Sosua for me already happened years ago, when they closed the corner Bermuda Bar, and turned the Happy Bar batchata dancing bar into a pizza joint!
On another note my buddy at Rumba says they are going nowhere.
They are "negotiating" to re-open the restaurant soon![/QUOTE]We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.
I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2394255]We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.
I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules that will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries![/QUOTE]I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2394449]I don't think the videos influence anything, there are tons of videos of action at sex destinations all over youtube yet these places continue to rock.
It would be great if they reopened Rhumba's, my favorite of all in Sosua, it would be good to visit Sosua again.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake. They still want our money, but they want it all quiet. Next they'll crackdown on anything with a flyer on IG or Facebook. Just my opinion. Time will tell. It really doesn't affect anyone with contacts all that much. I'll be back soon. Can't wait!
I can't see how they can keep the restaurants closed. I think at some they will reopen, but with restrictions. Rumbas does have a good kitchen. The goat with veggies is the bomb! Peace to all!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2394478]I respectfully disagree. I think Santo Domingo has been wanting to shake the sex tourism label since the outgoing president was running for reelection. The YouTube videos with chicas, Facebook posts with chicas all add to the reputation they want to shake.[/QUOTE]But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.
It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2394510]But the videos and facebook posts are not what gives it that reputation. How many views do these posts even have? Most people probably do not even know of the reputation. Ask MrGogo about when a known monger, BBBC, was roving all around the north coast and didn't even know Sosua existed. He was just passing the place by going from Puerto Plata to Cabarete. I didn't even know it existed until a coworker told me about it in 2006. And I had already been to Boca Chica twice.
It is only people that are already involved in the sex tourism that are viewing these posts anyway. Hell, I am involved in it and the only time I would even see one is when someone posts it here and I click on it. The average person like my aunt is not at home mistakenly running into these posts and saying shame, shame, shame, no more than I am accidentally running into posts about heart transplants or how to take care of a ficus tree.[/QUOTE]We'll have to agree to disagree bruh. When the outgoing president was running for reelection he spoke of cleaning up prostitution on the north coast. Then he went further and mentioned sosua specifically. So the attitude of making change in sosua isn't a new one.
Go on YouTube and type in sosua. A lot of videos will come up. I was sent one this morning of a dude who filmed the protest in sosua last night. A lot of videos have chicas in them. The powers that be don't want that image. All the youtube video dudes don't help. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2394255]We'll see how the election goes. But I think Santo Domingo is making it clear they don't want a visible, attention attracting scene in sosua. They video dudes are shooting themselves in the foot.
I figured rumba, chez real and merengue would be allowed to reopen at some point because they have kitchens. But I'm sure there will be new rules tha soont will be strictly enforced. Like Oak said, this really doesn't effect expats and vets, it hits the weekend warriors kinda hard. Looking forward to my next trip. No worries![/QUOTE]Rumba will reopen, soon! That's a Dominican "soon"! Lol.
I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in the U.K and Canada, at least, where I have family, Sosua has a reputation far out of proportion to it's lowly status as a small pueblo beach town. My main buddy was banned from visiting me by his wife and kids! I now tell folks I'm in PP.
A reputation passed on by thousands of sex tourists who come to Sosua every year and go back to share stories of their sexual escapades. They also come here from Canada like me, the USA, Germany, Holland and Scandinavia, and keep coming back. Cheap available and legal pussy always has a market, even for Europeans!
Also by newspaper "exposes" about the so called problems the Dominican Republic has with underage prostitution and sex tourists.
It's not the youtube videos, it's more like a bar with a bad rep. No matter how much a series of new owners spend to tart it up, it always fails, unless they tear down the building entirely.
It takes a generation to gentrify a bad zip code!
Sosua is stuck with it's rep, for better or worse! LOL.
Rumor is Rumbas will reopen in the old Mouri mai location, which is across from the casino. Interesting. No word on what will happen to the old location or what the new rules will be. Stay tuned!
Different groups for the Sue. IMO.
1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.
2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.
3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2394582]Different groups for the Sue. IMO.
1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.
2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.
3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.[/QUOTE]Group 1.5%of Sue-Rich and Elite.
Group 2. 10% of Sue-Working class.
Group 3. 85% of Sue-Hungry class.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2394582]Different groups for the Sue. IMO.
1. These are the people that say they're tired of the Sue having a bad name. They wanted to have a good standing reputation. They want to end a prostitution in the area. They want it to be a well-known family Destiination or anything other than sex tourism. They believe they can stop prostitution in the area. They feel business in the Sue will not skip a beat or continue with minimal repercussions. They include Politicians seeking election or reelection and the majority of voting citizens. They have enough influence to recruit the local police and military on their team.
2. These are the people looking to relocate the action. They understand that they cannot stop prostitution but profit big from it being relocated. They see major profits from land being sold and developed from the new location. It's all about the numbers to them and they have Allied themselves with group 1 because they want change of the old Sosua.
3. These are the people that already have an interest the old location. To them, the cops arresting the SW is no good. They want the harassment to stop and let things continue. They are current business owners and their employees. Haitians and Dominicans that hustle in the area, The Minority of voting citizens, and a large majority of its regular tourists.[/QUOTE]That's about the size of it!
On Tuesday evening, 19 November, a few hundred dismissed employees held a protest March through the streets of Sosúa. These are employees of the bars and restaurants recently closed by order of the government. They are former employees of Bar Central, Bourbon Street restaurant, Bar Pranitium (El Flow), the Merengue Bar, the Rumba Bar, discotheque the 'Clasico, discotheque Citylights, the Blue Ice Piano Bar and Chez Montreal. It is not just about bar staff, but also maintenance, cleaning and security staff. The taxi companies and montoconchos (motor taxis) saw their number of customers decrease considerably.
But also the fashion stores, hairdresser's, massage and beauty salons and other restaurants saw their turnover fall. With torchlights they marched through the streets, with protest signs with slogans and chants, they showed that they are now destitute. 'The holidays are coming and how should we feed our children and sick mother?' The activists we spoke to said that this is just the beginning of the resistance, more protests will follow. Wednesday afternoon there was another protest March in the streets of Sosúa, this time against prostitution. Extra police had been brought in from Puerto Plata to prevent calamities.
[URL]https://youtu.be/rqbIbvIphiw[/URL]
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2394606]That's about the size of it![/QUOTE]Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.
Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!
Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2394759]Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.
Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!
Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected![/QUOTE]Sosua has always been built around prostitution. More people came, more hotels opened, more restaurants opened and there were brothels opened also. Tourists are seen in daytime walking around or going to the beach. I do not believe they are bothered with SW. Very few walk around there in the evening or night. Economy supports all the establishment by people coming to enjoy the girls. If the entertainment area is moved to the other end it is anybody's guess whether Sosua will stay as a destination for people looking for girls. That part of the town is not Main Street Sosua. Even if restaurants and clubs move there they may not survive.
I believe Sosua Main Street will slowly die off. Some brave establishments will move to new area hoping. Right now there are no open bars there where people can easily go in and out. When and if it happens I am sure more girls will come looking for money. Maybe few hotels will open in that area. Transportation is not an issue because of motos. Although people like to stay and walk around.
Only way Sosua can survive is by staying as a brothel town. It will never become a tourist town because there is nothing apart from the beach. Beach road survives only because of casa marina.
If the mayor thinks Sosua main will become a tourist town she is not thinking straight or does not care. With the all inclusive resorts tourists will not go to Main Street restaurants and hang around there.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2394759]Well, there is another group of folks out there, that nobody mentions. Those who's livelihood depends on the current level of tourism, the owners, managers, suppliers, and most importantly, the WORKERS in the bar, hotel, restaurant business.
Some of them were out marching the streets in protest, a couple nights ago! They need their jobs to support their families now, not at some future time when the "family tourism" business is supposed to kick in!
Mayor Ilana is a politician, above all, and she has to give these folks some real answers, if she's to be re-elected![/QUOTE]Very true. A lot of good people have gotten caught up in this political mess. This is bigger than the mayor. I don't see the old days returning. Hopefully people can find employment somewhere.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2394774]
...I believe Sosua Main Street will slowly die off. Some brave establishments will move to new area hoping. Right now there are no open bars there where people can easily go in and out....[/QUOTE]It already happened!
The once thriving main street is now a deserted rust belt with boarded up store fronts.
I had an (illegal) beer with an old pal down there who is still running a legal business!
In the hour or so I was shooting the shit with him, a few of the old hardcore tarted up hookers were still wandering around looking for the odd client, and some of them did get picked up!
That's what happens when thriving businesses leave an area and the stores get boarded up. It's the same all over the world. It attracts cheap drug dependent hookers and the folks that deal with them! Then the tatoo parlours, rub and tugs, cheap souvenir stands and nail salons take over!
Good job, Ilana! LOL.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2394774].............Only way Sosua can survive is by staying as a brothel town. It will never become a tourist town because there is nothing apart from the beach............[/QUOTE]Without prostitution Sosua will be a quiet town with a few tourists. There are many venues throughout the Caribbean with even better beaches than Sosua that are quiet villages with hardly any tourists.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2394813]Without prostitution Sosua will be a quiet town with a few tourists. There are many venues throughout the Caribbean with even better beaches than Sosua that are quiet villages with hardly any tourists.[/QUOTE]PM me a few of these locations please! Thanks!
Prostitution in that centralized area of Sosua is the head. One club or restaurant does not make the Sue. Those clubs have been playing back-and-forth for years with one opening and the other Being shut down. The beach has always been there and is not going anywhere.
You have weekend warriors, ex pats, street vendors, regular visitors, hustlers, small bars, hotels and restaurants. All of them add to the ambience to the area. However it is the Chicas that are the main attraction.
The harassment has been there for a while however it did not stop the normal flow. Maybe five or six unlucky girls a night will be incarcerated and released the next day. Hell even the police made a little money on the side releasing two or three of the ones they caught for a small fee.
Any Chica could walk on the strip and grab a quick client. Some only went when the club was open. Some came with no intentions of going in a club or restaurant. It was a public area and a live spot for SW, tourist, locals, and more during the day but especially at night.
When the police and the military got the Political instructions to arrest any Chica in the area that looks like she's involved in prostitution a problem came into play. That roughly affected 70% of the action on the main street. You still had action going on in the clubs. However the quality of SW Chica's dropped noticeably. The prices in the clubs sometimes doubled or tripled.
The clubs, restaurants, and bars became a haven for many Chicas seeking to avoid the police. That led to the next move of removing the main clubs and bars from the area.
Opportunist came in and jumped on the bandwagon. They aligned them selves with people who wanted change. It seem like a good alliance until the differences of the two group came to light. Group 2: Who had the Financial resources and vision to create a new area "Out of sight out of mind" bump heads with group 1: Group 1 didn't want any parties organized or un organize of any sort. They still were in possession of the local police and military forces. They use them to stop any ongoing parties in any the area.
As a result, A backlash came in effect and the area has suffered financially. What would you expect when you put the full force of stopping prostitution in action.
Some people think the above situation doesn't affect them because they, like me, have a lot of Chicas contacts and can just call for service is needed. I say true to a point however, I say this. That is good to weather the storm but what happens if it always raining. The Sue will very quickly lose its attraction.
If I was thinking about retiring or maybe getting a second home in the DR and I came to Sosua in its present state, do you think I would want to choose there? Do you think it would be a good place for me to tell my partners to invest their retirement or personal finances in getting a condo or a business in the area? Is the place currently just as attractive as it was 3 year or 3 months ago?
We on this board are up on new information and current condition true or false however imagine the person that’s not. Imagine the person who has been to the Sue a few times six months ago and now has returned with five of his friends. Imagine how they’re feeling about the scene in its current condition.
Is a small beach city with one traffic light and a population of a little over 50,000 locals worth me wanting to stay there?
The Sue cannot die! But when you change up your pitch some people may not want to hit your ball. I'm hoping things will normalize but I know with time nothing stays the same.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2394870]Some people think the above situation doesn't affect them because they, like me, have a lot of Chicas contacts and can just call for service is needed. I say true to a point however, I say this. That is good to weather the storm but what happens if it always raining. The Sue will very quickly lose its attraction.
If I was thinking about retiring or maybe getting a second home in the DR and I came to Sosua in its present state, do you think I would want to choose there? Do you think it would be a good place for me to tell my partners to invest their retirement or personal finances in getting a condo or a business in the area? Is the place currently just as attractive as it was 3 year or 3 months ago?
We on this board are up on new information and current condition true or false however imagine the person thats not. Imagine the person who has been to the Sue a few times six months ago and now has returned with five of his friends. Imagine how theyre feeling about the scene in its current condition.
Is a small beach city with one traffic light and a population of a little over 50,000 locals worth me wanting to stay there?
The Sue cannot die! But when you change up your pitch some people may not want to hit your ball. I'm hoping things will normalize but I know with time nothing stays the same.[/QUOTE]Big dude, remember a few years ago we saw posts about how easy Sosua was about mongering? It was considered mongering on training wheels? And how Santo Domingo was for experienced mongers who know what they are doing. Remember how old vets sort of mocked the mongers that were still going to Sosua, and that they had moved on?
Well right now, this is the time a monger needs some experience in knowing how to navigate in Sosua and get the most out of it, regardless of the political turmoil or venue closings. All those that have bailed because of closings, chica arrests etc, have basically declared that they are not cut out for adapting to change. They need those training wheels.
On the idea of advising friends on if Sosua is a viable place to retire to. I think it is. With a few caveats. If he is an expat like myself, who does not require certain venues to be open in order to cope, is not in vacation mode so he has no need to fulfil a quotaof chicas for his vacation. He can very well live in or close to Sosua. The benefit of already being an expat, is that I'm living through all of the changes I see around me. I have no sense of loss or doom like what is felt back in the matrix. Because in my opinion, that's the reaction that I sense from enough mongers not only from this forum, but others.
Me and my expat friends feel no such concern. Whatever happens, happens. Day to day living is still great. On another note, I believe in keeping things simple. And I've kept it simple the entire time. I will never complicate my life by retiring, and then try to open a business. Flying under the radar is one of the best assets you have in living abroad. It amazes me how many guys want to live in the DR, but not satisfied with just retiring. They have to open a business. By not having a business, do you know how much stress a person eliminated from their life? Another thing, I don't advise mongers to buy property just because they loved their mongering lifestyle. And want to continue it in retirement.
I always advise guys to rent and live in the DR for a while. Once the novelty of living in the DR falls off, the thrill of being close to juice will fall off too. Sosua is a place a dude can love without the p4 p right in your face. Getting chicks and juice is easy, it doesn't have to come just from Sosua. You don't need Sosua just for that. I also advise guys not to invest too much money on a place to live. Live decent but don't spend a fortune on rent. I started off paying only $350 a month rent. And it hasnt changed ever since I took on the place. Look at me now. I have another place on the other side of the world. The rent and expenses are almost the same. But I may not have been able to do it, if I was knee deep paying rent in one place. I gave my self the flexibility to live anywhere else I want. Not just in Sosua. I did what I need to do when I was working, so I can afford to do whatever I want financially without needing to earn income from a job or opening a business.
IMO, that's what a retiring individual should consider. Grow into retirement abroad. Don't put too much into one place until you really know where you want to stay. You might find out you want to live in a totally different country. I recall a ytuber, who paid a nice chunk of cash to buy his condo in Sosua. Outgrew the place in about a year and a half, then end up moving to PP. Paying for a place over there. Thats what happens when being hasty in decision making. Granted he may have sold the 1st place and made a profit, but that was still a huge risk. To cough up that much cash, and eventually realize you rather live elsewhere.
Guys from the states need to spend their time talking to wise dudes in the trenches that may offer solid advice / counsel. Lastly, often enough the needs of a 60 something year old is going to be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude eligible for retirement. Vacationing mongers often have a different outlook than expats who have been living abroad for awhile.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2394963]Big dude, remember a few years ago we saw posts about how easy Sosua was about mongering? It was considered mongering on training wheels? And how Santo Domingo was for experienced mongers who know what they are doing. Remember how old vets sort of mocked the mongers that were still going to Sosua, and that they had moved on?
Well right now, this is the time a monger needs some experience in knowing how to navigate in Sosua and get the most out of it, regardless of the political turmoil or venue closings. All those that have bailed because of closings, chica arrests etc, have basically declared that they are not cut out for adapting to change. They need those training wheels.
Guys from the states need to spend their time talking to wise dudes in the trenches that may offer solid advice / counsel. Lastly, often enough the needs of a 60 something year old is going to be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude eligible for retirement. Vacationing mongers often have a different outlook than expats who have been living abroad for awhile.[/QUOTE]What's up Bro, I pm you earlier welcome back but you never respond. It was good seeing you in the Sue! Your intellectual insight is always welcome.
Yes I remember what those old vets were saying. We all knew what was in the Sue but we chose to go and excepted those training wheels. That's why I love the Sue I knew what to expect. I didn't need those training wheels I wanted them! If she can't give it to me I can choose not to come or come when I want to deal with her changes. I'm glad I don't have to navigate like some people that choose to deal with the current conditions. If I was living there I would be doing it too.
I've never been an expat before so getting your perspective is insightful. Who are these guys from the state that you're talking about? Was that a subliminal shot, were you speaking in directly or general? Since we are friends I can only assume that it wasn't directly. Personally I think everybodys entitled to their opinion. Even if we agree to disagree like brother P said.
I've never been 60 something but you hit home with fortyish pushing 50. Once again your wisdom like many of my older friends that are in the trenches is insightful and welcomed. You always bring a wealth of knowledge that I have grown to respect.
I'm glad the current conditions it's just another day in the life for guys like you. It's cool that why'all can adapt and go on with every day living in the Sue. You made your choice and are dealing with it. It's your money and your time. I would be stepping out of line to tell you what need to be doing. I wouldnt think you were a clown or anything other than a man that has knowledge of the conditions and chose to deal with it.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2395052]I've never been an expat before so getting your perspective is insightful. Who are these guys from the state that you're talking about? Was that a subliminal shot, were you speaking in directly or general? Since we are friends I can only assume that it wasn't directly. Personally I think everybodys entitled to their opinion. Even if we agree to disagree like brother P said.
I've never been 60 something but you hit home with fortyish pushing 50. Once again your wisdom like many of my older friends that are in the trenches is insightful and welcomed. You always bring a wealth of knowledge that I have grown to respect.
I'm glad the current conditions it's just another day in the life for guys like you. It's cool that why'all can adapt and go on with every day living in the Sue. You made your choice and are dealing with it. It's your money and your time. I would be stepping out of line to tell you what need to be doing. I wouldnt think you were a clown or anything other than a man that has knowledge of the conditions and chose to deal with it.[/QUOTE]WOW, I never thought you were reading that and assuming it could be personally directed. I'm kinda dumb founded. I was talking about several things, what part would you take personally? You and I have never discussed your plans or endeavors. After 5 yrs of me living here I have interviewed hundreds of guys that speak candidly and freely on their intentions when they retire. When you mentioned your concerns about whether it was a good idea to advise guys you know on if Sosua was a viable place to live and start a business, I was giving my perspective based on my interactions with other guys concerned about the same thing.
Mainly, Sosua is hot now. If a guy is coming to Sosua to start a business he is taking a huge risk. Especially if he needs the income in order to make ends meet. My statement was for anybody, and advice for the guys you were saying you would advise. Not directed towards you. The reason I frown on starting a business especially soon after retirement, is because, a guy that just retires doesn't really know what he is going to be doing with himself yet. The same as a guy buying property, and not sure that is where they are going to stay.
There are a few examples out there of people that I talked to. One example is a mother and a daughter that each had restaurants on the beach. Both of them never got off the ground, even though they both felt that they had a good product. Another issue is once in business, a guy could find himself having to deal with police or other officials giving you trouble. Kings restaurant is a good example of that. It took that guy quite awhile to get the clearances he needed to open up. Less than two yrs, closed down. If he depended on his place for income, that would be a major set back. Hope he re opens.
Angelo with the laundry service. 1st came to me years ago talking about he wanted to sell and / or rent used cars. Down the road, he ended up with the laundry service and the apartments. But he is struggling to stay afloat. Has come to several dudes asking for financial help. Thats not where an expat should be. Brian the Jamaican cook has been struggling to maintain for years. Always moving from one place to the next. Expenses kicking his ass.
Will who had the sweet shop across from Seabreeze, wasnt really making any money. Eventually he moved and had a restaurant inside Hotel Seabreeze. But his health had been failing for years. Had to close the business due to lack of customers and poor health. His health may have got worse due to stress trying to run a business and finding out that it was more of a hassle than an enjoyment. When you saw Will, he was married to his business, but not enjoying his day to day life.
Now I'm well aware that some guys have the type of hustle where they can work online, or what they are offering has very little overhead. To me, that is fine. If I was an expert on computers, ID use my skills to make money doing that.
Yes, I was offering my opinion and perspective on how I feel about trying to start a business, in relation to guys that want to do it, but who I feel have not done enough resaearch or are prepared for what they may be getting into. I never advise guys not to pursue their dreams and goals. All I do is tell them to look around, look what is going on here. Look at how foreigners are treated when they have a business. A business is at risk if it's constantly on pins and needles by entities out of your control.
Most businesses run by foreigners are not making a killing, they are doing enough to get by. Like The Tree House. His place can be quite busy and seem like it's flourishing. But the real is, it's a struggle keeping that business going. Sherman once told me, by the end of the week or month his personal take home was very little compared to what he took in. When all of the fellows come to his place, we eat / drink and enjoy, but can leave whenever we want. We can travel anytime we want. When you own a business, and your presence is necessary, that limits your mobility. Everything we see looks good on the surface.
But Sherman has had his headaches too. Business was burglarized several times. Almost shut down from that bikini contest they had at his place. No bro, no way am I directing my POV and opinion towards you. I like you and respect you. And when I see you, you make feel good about living in Sosua. In fact all of the dudes I know, especially all the guys going to Colombia, Brazil and Asia, they all come back to the Sue to visit. Thats how I know Sosua is not dead. I checked my PM, I didn't see any message there. I had one from Brother P only.
You GrownMan have provided a lot of great content and feedback through the years. I lurk and read. I don't usually post when I see a job well done. But your perspective and insights is definitely an asset here.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2394818]PM me a few of these locations please! Thanks![/QUOTE]Many quiet good beaches from St. Kitts, Nevis and Anguilla all the way down to Trinidad and Tobago. Many islands. No prostitutes, few tourists, lovely water. Google them. Tripadvisor is your friend.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2394963]Big dude, remember a few years ago we saw posts about how easy Sosua was about mongering? It was considered mongering on training wheels? And how Santo Domingo was for experienced mongers who know what they are doing. Remember how old vets sort of mocked the mongers that were still going to Sosua, and that they had moved on?
Well right now, this is the time a monger needs some experience in knowing how to navigate in Sosua and get the most out of it, regardless of the political turmoil or venue closings. All those that have bailed because of closings, chica arrests etc, have basically declared that they are not cut out for adapting to change. They need those training wheels.
On the idea of advising friends on if Sosua is a viable place to retire to. I think it is. With a few caveats. If he is an expat like myself, who does not require certain venues to be open in order to cope, is not in vacation mode so he has no need to fulfil a quotaof chicas for his vacation. He can very well live in or close to Sosua. The benefit of already being an expat, is that I'm living through all of the changes I see around me. I have no sense of loss or doom like what is felt back in the matrix. Because in my opinion, that's the reaction that I sense from enough mongers not only from this forum, but others.
Me and my expat friends feel no such concern. Whatever happens, happens. Day to day living is still great. On another note, I believe in keeping things simple. And I've kept it simple the entire time. I will never complicate my life by retiring, and then try to open a business. Flying under the radar is one of the best assets you have in living abroad. It amazes me how many guys want to live in the DR, but not satisfied with just retiring. They have to open a business. By not having a business, do you know how much stress a person eliminated from their life? Another thing, I don't advise mongers to buy property just because they loved their mongering lifestyle. And want to continue it in retirement.
I always advise guys to rent and live in the DR for a while. Once the novelty of living in the DR falls off, the thrill of being close to juice will fall off too. Sosua is a place a dude can love without the p4 p right in your face. Getting chicks and juice is easy, it doesn't have to come just from Sosua. You don't need Sosua just for that. I also advise guys not to invest too much money on a place to live. Live decent but don't spend a fortune on rent. I started off paying only $350 a month rent. And it hasnt changed ever since I took on the place. Look at me now. I have another place on the other side of the world. The rent and expenses are almost the same. But I may not have been able to do it, if I was knee deep paying rent in one place. I gave my self the flexibility to live anywhere else I want. Not just in Sosua. I did what I need to do when I was working, so I can afford to do whatever I want financially without needing to earn income from a job or opening a business.
IMO, that's what a retiring individual should consider. Grow into retirement abroad. Don't put too much into one place until you really know where you want to stay. You might find out you want to live in a totally different country. I recall a ytuber, who paid a nice chunk of cash to buy his condo in Sosua. Outgrew the place in about a year and a half, then end up moving to PP. Paying for a place over there. Thats what happens when being hasty in decision making. Granted he may have sold the 1st place and made a profit, but that was still a huge risk. To cough up that much cash, and eventually realize you rather live elsewhere.
Guys from the states need to spend their time talking to wise dudes in the trenches that may offer solid advice / counsel. Lastly, often enough the needs of a 60 something year old is going to be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude eligible for retirement. Vacationing mongers often have a different outlook than expats who have been living abroad for awhile.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. This should be required reading for all rookies!
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2394963]Guys from the states need to spend their time talking to wise dudes in the trenches that may offer solid advice / counsel. Lastly, often enough the needs of a 60 something year old is going to be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude eligible for retirement. Vacationing mongers often have a different outlook than expats who have been living abroad for awhile.[/QUOTE]I had to reread my entire post, and I picked this part out as what you may have been referring to?
When I said, the needs of a 60 something yr old would be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude, I was merely acknowledging that an older dude (expat even) can't assume his needs, interests and motivations would be the same as someone younger consdiering retirement abroad. Meaning, an older dude or expat does not set the bar for everybody. A younger dude, or different dude may have his own interests and motivations. And therefore, the expat older dudes opinion and perspective may be moot or non applicable for someone else. I said this at the end, to buffer the strong biased opinions I was offering earlier in the message. But I wasnt clear or throrough in what I was getting at.
When I talked about vacationing mongers have a different outlook than expats, I was considering that too. Expats can get to a place where they are content. Wheras a vacationing monger may have a different vision or motivation. Each can appreciate where the other is coming from. Even learn from each other. For instance what I learned, is that vacationing mongers tend to dive head on into what Sosua has to offer. Wheras expats can be too reserved at times. They tend to stick to what's familiar. Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes it's not.
For vacationing mongers they can potentially appreciate the expats perspective on just enjoying living abroad, living under the radar, and realizing that one may find mongering less of a priority once they live abroad for a while. And definitely won't be posting potentially inflammatory content on Ytube for the world to see.
So I guess I was stating an opinion without explaining it's significance overall.
Oh and the part about guys need to talk to the guys in the trenches. I was referring to not relying on Ytubers who may not have a clue when it comes to advising other guys on pertinent info. One in particular used to post videoa that had all kinds of incorrect information. Even tried to repeat a story about an accident I had, spouting wrong information. There were several examples of him posting other videos on inaccurate information. And had a bunch of followers from the states enamored with his videos.
So again, I was vague about what I meant about guys need to talk to guys in the trenches. But that is where I was going with that. One of the most important things I hope guys get. Just because the guy is on you tube, doesnt mean he is honest or can be trusted. The 1st thing i notice is many rarely tell you to talk to the vets and expats if you need to know whats up. Instead many get to the point that they want you to rely on them for information, and also support them financially. What I offer guys that come to Sosua is for free. I enjoy helping guys as much as i can.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2395114]The reason I frown on starting a business especially soon after retirement, is because, a guy that just retires doesn't really know what he is going to be doing with himself yet.[/QUOTE]Besides that, the average person starting these things has probably never run a business before, so he is already behind the 8-ball. And like you said, in 3rd world countries you have to deal with tons of bureaucracy and the police. Everyone will have their hands out for a piece of your pie.
All one has to do is look around. If you don't see anyone else thriving from it, then it is probably not a good idea. Surely people came before you with the same dollar signs in their eyes. What happened to them?
There is an expat saying in Thailand that holds true here as well: If you want to make a small fortune in Thailand, then start with a large one. (I see restaurants and bars come and I see them go.) These places we travel to are meant to be used by us rich foreigners to relax and take it easy, not to add undue stress to our lives.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2395129]I had to reread my entire post, and I picked this part out as what you may have been referring to?
When I said, the needs of a 60 something yr old would be quite different than a 40 ish pushing 50 dude, I was merely acknowledging that an older dude (expat even) can't assume his needs, interests and motivations would be the same as someone younger consdiering retirement abroad. Meaning, an older dude or expat does not set the bar for everybody. A younger dude, or different dude may have his own interests and motivations. And therefore, the expat older dudes opinion and perspective may be moot or non applicable for someone else. I said this at the end, to buffer the strong biased opinions I was offering earlier in the message. But I wasnt clear or throrough in what I was getting at.
So I guess I was stating an opinion without explaining it's significance overall.
So again, I was vague about what I meant about guys need to talk to guys in the trenches. But that is where I was going with that. One of the most important things I hope guys get. Just because the guy is on you tube, doesnt mean he is honest or can be trusted. [/QUOTE]Bro trust, me I didn't take it directly. But I'm glad you dumb down for me. You are one of my favorite posters. I didn't calling you Sigmund Freud in the pass out of disrespect. I said it because I respect your insights and you give a very meaningful new and insightful approach to looking at things.
Man those guys are catching it trying to keep the business afloat? Once again a different approach In looking at things. I can't wait till I have a chance to really sit down and talk with you. I think you're the only one that can convince me to try the West. Mr. E is prejudice and Gogo is done.
I like your posts Grownman very insightful. The X man's posts have improved dramatically. The extended vacation must have helped.
The part about different views of expats verses tourists is especially on point. I've been writing from the prospective of a expat while catching flack on the DR forum from tourists. And all the while never having a single factual piece of information that I posted about Santo Domingo este successfully changed by anyone. None of us vets posting have anything to gain from it. In fact we are using our valuable time to contribute. So, I'm afraid that entire part about listening to vets is really going to fall on deaf eyes. But it remains good advice.
I would add that not only age, but geography within the same country matters also. I give information and advice on este where I live. Everywhere else that I have just visited is my opinion.
I just spent the last two and a half months in Sosua and have not been on this forum hardly at all so I don't know what has been reported here as I am too lazy to go back and read a million pages of mostly BS. What I can tell you is big changes are coming to Sosua, the orders of "cleansing" is coming from Santo Domingo, the mayor is just a pawn in all of this. If you don't think that big change along with big money is coming just go down to playa Sosua and look at the hundreds of feet of new fencing being constructed along the full length of the beach. The Dominican family that owns the land between the beach shacks and the highway has sold to foreign investors and they intend on building condos and a hotel etc. On that land, the beach shacks are there illegally and will be bulldozed into oblivion just like they have done to others in Encuentro and Long Beach. As many of you know Marriott has licensed three new high end luxury hotels on the north shore, the old Ganservort is currently under renovation, another is in Cabarete, I can't remember the exact location and a Ritz Carlton is to be built at La Boca. It is rumored that Hilton is soon to announce something in Sosua but I'm not holding my breath. The closing of the bars in Sosua may be permanent this time in my opinion, Kings / Rumbas is relocating down the street after going to court and being told that there was no way he could reopen at the current location, they should be open soon at the old Mora Mai location. There are many moving parts to all of this. Willie is building a huge entertainment complex in Puerto Plata, not Sosua, that should tell you something also. I went to the new disco in Ahnvee for about ten minutes last week,200 girls in there easily so if that's your thing then have at it. I have to put a plug in for my good friend Matteo and his new bar / restaurant at the old Brittania location, he did a great job and we've had a lot of fun hanging out watching football and just watching the goings on in the street, I can't wait to get back in January, Sosua lives it just lives differently and will live much differently in the future, I'm okay with most of it because I am not a weekend warrior and have a phone full of Puerto Plata Facebook "friends" who are more than willing to jump in a carrito and visit me.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2395410]I like your posts Grownman very insightful. The X man's posts have improved dramatically. The extended vacation must have helped.
.[/QUOTE]Well that's a good way of saying welcome back. LOL.
Sub you give a Lotta good information about your area. I used to feel like I'm giving unuseful information. That was the day until I met two guys that never posts only read. They gave me some dap and say they appreciate the information I give. Some bad boys have to move in silence.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2395471]I just spent the last two and a half months in Sosua and have not been on this forum hardly at all so I don't know what has been reported here as I am too lazy to go back and read a million pages of mostly BS. What I can tell you is big changes are coming to Sosua, the orders of "cleansing" is coming from Santo Domingo, the mayor is just a pawn in all of this. If you don't think that big change along with big money is coming just go down to playa Sosua and look at the hundreds of feet of new fencing being constructed along the full length of the beach. The Dominican family that owns the land between the beach shacks and the highway has sold to foreign investors and they intend on building condos and a hotel etc. On that land, the beach shacks are there illegally and will be bulldozed into oblivion just like they have done to others in Encuentro and Long Beach. As many of you know Marriott has licensed three new high end luxury hotels on the north shore, the old Ganservort is currently under renovation, another is in Cabarete, I can't remember the exact location and a Ritz Carlton is to be built at La Boca. It is rumored that Hilton is soon to announce something in Sosua but I'm not holding my breath. The closing of the bars in Sosua may be permanent this time in my opinion, Kings / Rumbas is relocating down the street after going to court and being told that there was no way he could reopen at the current location, they should be open soon at the old Mora Mai location. There are many moving parts to all of this. Willie is building a huge entertainment complex in Puerto Plata, not Sosua, that should tell you something also. I went to the new disco in Ahnvee for about ten minutes last week,200 girls in there easily so if that's your thing then have at it. I have to put a plug in for my good friend Matteo and his new bar / restaurant at the old Brittania location, he did a great job and we've had a lot of fun hanging out watching football and just watching the goings on in the street, I can't wait to get back in January, Sosua lives it just lives differently and will live much differently in the future, I'm okay with most of it because I am not a weekend warrior and have a phone full of Puerto Plata Facebook "friends" who are more than willing to jump in a carrito and visit me.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%! Its for real this time, and it isn't just the mayor! Like you I'm not overly worried. I'll be back soon and I have mywhatapp crew ready.
It does say a lot that Willie's new club in Puerto Plata. Lol. These guys who think its going back to how it was are nuts.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2395494]I agree 100%! Its for real this time, and it isn't just the mayor! Like you I'm not overly worried. I'll be back soon and I have mywhatapp crew ready.
It does say a lot that Willie's new club in Puerto Plata. Lol. These guys who think its going back to how it was are nuts.[/QUOTE]Relax guys. The sky is not falling. It is just the weekdays and low season now. When the weekends and high season come and the elections are over, everything will go back to normal. Sosua needs us!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2395526]Relax guys. The sky is not falling. It is just the weekdays and low season now. When the weekends and high season come and the elections are over, everything will go back to normal. Sosua needs us![/QUOTE]Nah. This feels different bruh. I was just there in Oct. The old days won't be back bruh.
But I agree the sky isn't falling. Veterans warned me years ago this wouldn't last. Those that have contacts, speak some Spanish and can move around will continue to enjoy the island. The classico vip crew, dudes who don't like to travel solo will go away. I'm not worried. I just find it interesting.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2395471]I have to put a plug in for my good friend Matteo and his new bar / restaurant at the old Brittania location, he did a great job and we've had a lot of fun hanging out watching football and just watching the goings on in the street.[/QUOTE]For those who were not aware, that new bar / restaurant is named "Matteo's Seaside Pub." And his old location (Midtown Sosua Restaurant and Bar) is available for purchase at $40,000 USD.
I also saw in the Sosua forum on TripAdvisor that Scandinavian Beach Bar was renamed The Rehab Bar and is apparently doing well. I was sure that place was going to close permanently after Tom died.
My typical Friday.
PP Regular comes bearing gifts, home made soup and stuff!
A couple hours on the beach #33, and a couple cold ones! Home for shower and change, then over to the bar for a beer and to pick up a couple of our barrista friends coming off shift. They are dressed to the nines and ready to go!
In view of the changes I suggested we all head up to Ahmee to see what's cooking! ID's all checked at the gate, and a series of very attentive and cheerful chicos ushered us around to a nice table!
The place is huge! Could fit 4 Rumbas into it around a beautiful pool setting. It was early when we got there, around 7, but the place was full of chicas in full dress gear! Some I knew who joined us for a beer. A couple hours checking out the scene, and renewing acquaintances. My girls were hungry, and we weren't too impressed with it as an eating place, more like a giant, but spacious. Club/disco. Air conditioned and not claustrophobic like the old Classico. Lots of room to walk around, and some fine chicas were doing just that.
The ID and dress code kept out the hardcore hookers, so no 500 peso BJ's in the bathroom, for cheap mongers. LOL.
All in all, very civilized, and if my buddy's wife lets him come down to visit, I know one guy who will find it much to his liking!
So we bid farewell and hopped MC's to downtown where we had a great meal and listened to a band. Mixed wine with the beers I'd had earlier which didn't agree with me much, so cut the girls loose, and me and GF walked back to our beautiful air conditioned love nest with the fresh crisp clean sheets!
Maybe not for everybody, but for us, a great night! (and also got to make a mental note of a couple more future possible contacts LOL).
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2395540]For those who were not aware, that new bar / restaurant is named "Matteo's Seaside Pub." And his old location (Midtown Sosua Restaurant and Bar) is available for purchase at $40,000 USD.
I also saw in the Sosua forum on TripAdvisor that Scandinavian Beach Bar was renamed The Rehab Bar and is apparently doing well. I was sure that place was going to close permanently after Tom died.[/QUOTE]The old Midtown location is NOT for sale. When Matteo was there he offered it for sale and found a buyer but the owner of the hotel, Matteo's landlord refused to rent the place to any potential buyers because he had a friend that wanted to put a German restaurant in there, the owner of the hotel is German. So in essence that motherfucker screwed Matteo out of $40,000. The Rehab Bar was doing very well but the owner Ken decided to close it in order to focus on his construction business Rehab Home Improvement, he is the one that "rehabbed" the old Brittania into Matteo's Seaside Pub. He did a great job. He also just renovated the old LOS Gringos in Cabarete, it is now called Danny's Pub. Ken is a good friend of mine and does great work.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2395471]............. have a phone full of Puerto Plata Facebook "friends" who are more than willing to jump in a carrito and visit me.[/QUOTE]It seems that Sosua would work for you and others like you who have a list of girls to visit but it would not work for me as I like strange / a variety of strange. Gots plenty here where I am in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2395628]The old Midtown location is NOT for sale.[/QUOTE]Well, then Matteo Pello might want to remove the ad from his Facebook page (picture attached, hopefully). But I believe you, since he's selling the contents of the old restaurant on "Best of Everything Cabarete Sosua," "La Mulata Community," and "Everything Cabarete."
[QUOTE=Turgid;2396154]It seems that Sosua would work for you and others like you who have a list of girls to visit but it would not work for me as I like strange / a variety of strange. Gots plenty here where I am in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]I just happen to believe that everybody is looking for strange. The issue, if I understand it correctly as I read the exchanges in the forum, is about how the format, locations and ease for meeting strange in person plays is currently being changed and altered. But the constant in life is change.
Personally I just don't see what the big deal is if the sole objective is a search for strange. If you like to walk around and check out various street vendors, depending upon who you choose to listen to, it would seem that Sosua is changing somewhat in that regard. Some like it and some don't. But I haven't read any reports that prostitution has been made illegal in Republica Dominicana. But strange continues to be available if you wish to pay for it.
The changes will make things less convenient for guys who do not like the club scene. Older guys will have to adjust to hitting the streets at night or find the new Rumba location. Weekend warriors will not miss a beat. Enviee is Classicos on steroids. The girls have not left and more may return if the policia is put on a leash. I like a little strange mixed in on my trips. If you are willing to look for it strange is easy to find. Infact they are looking for you.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2396374]The changes will make things less convenient for guys who do not like the club scene. Older guys will have to adjust to hitting the streets at night or find the new Rumba location. Weekend warriors will not miss a beat. Enviee is Classicos on steroids. The girls have not left and more may return if the policia is put on a leash. I like a little strange mixed in on my trips. If you are willing to look for it strange is easy to find. Infact they are looking for you.[/QUOTE]I'm hearing ahnvee is on the hit list. Too many YouTube videos coming out of there. Weekend dudes can't be discreet. Word is they Wii be forced to close the club. Long term, I see the weekend dudes not coming once all the VIP clubs get closed. We shall see. Vets, expats and snowbirds will always be around.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2396380]I'm hearing ahnvee is on the hit list. Too many YouTube videos coming out of there. Weekend dudes can't be discreet. Word is they Wii be forced to close the club. Long term, I see the weekend dudes not coming once all the VIP clubs get closed. We shall see. Vets, expats and snowbirds will always be around.[/QUOTE]Ahnvee is not on the hit list. It is far away from Main Street and closer to entertainment area mayor envisioned. Mayor does not want Main Street crowded with chicas walking and soliciting giving a bad name to Sosua where families of tourists come in droves which has not happened in the history of Sosua. Where Ahnvee is no tourist will come except people looking for girls. However when I was there lots of police and military came daily. It is anybody's guess how much in bribes has to be paid to keep it from being hassled. Right now they are making good money. Jam packed in the evenings and on Sunday pool party in the afternoon. Hopefully they will use the money to renovate all the rooms. The room I was given after the first room offered was not good is very good. Room 404. Convenient to meet and bring in the girls although I had a rental car.
Only other club is at playa chiquita casino. Saturday there was no entry fee for any body. On Sunday they started charging entry fee selectively. Do not know how much. Generally crowd dies down at Ahnvee by 1 am and all go to playa Chiquita.
High caribe is open but not many people. Long time ago I liked it because it was very popular. Very spacious compared to cramped Main Street clubs.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2396404] Mayor does not want Main Street crowded with chicas walking and soliciting giving a bad name to Sosua where families of tourists come in droves which has not happened in the history of Sosua. Where Ahnvee is no tourist will come except people looking for girls. However when I was there lots of police and military came daily. It is anybody's guess how much in bribes has to be paid to keep it from being hassled. [/QUOTE]I feel sorry for the Haitians. On the main street they were almost as safe as any other person. I often heard them complain about rumba not allowing them to come in. They had city lights which became Haitian central and a club that cater to them and their clients. Most of the clubs gave them a hard time and would not allow them entry. Current situations make it so much harder on them to see clients. Ahnvee Don't want to be labeled as a Haitian club so you know they're going to be tight on security. Only a select few are allowed a pass.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2396404]Ahnvee is not on the hit list. It is far away from Main Street and closer to entertainment area mayor envisioned. Mayor does not want Main Street crowded with chicas walking and soliciting giving a bad name to Sosua where families of tourists come in droves which has not happened in the history of Sosua. Where Ahnvee is no tourist will come except people looking for girls. However when I was there lots of police and military came daily. It is anybody's guess how much in bribes has to be paid to keep it from being hassled. Right now they are making good money. Jam packed in the evenings and on Sunday pool party in the afternoon. Hopefully they will use the money to renovate all the rooms. The room I was given after the first room offered was not good is very good. Room 404. Convenient to meet and bring in the girls although I had a rental car.
Only other club is at playa chiquita casino. Saturday there was no entry fee for any body. On Sunday they started charging entry fee selectively. Do not know how much. Generally crowd dies down at Ahnvee by 1 am and all go to playa Chiquita.
High caribe is open but not many people. Long time ago I liked it because it was very popular. Very spacious compared to cramped Main Street clubs.[/QUOTE]Other forums have a lot of dialogue about all the YouTube video's coming out of ahnvee. Exactly what they don't want. My source is saying the mayor is already working on closing the club at the minimum. But time will tell. In the meantime enjoy!
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2396278]Well, then Matteo Pello might want to remove the ad from his Facebook page (picture attached, hopefully). But I believe you, since he's selling the contents of the old restaurant on "Best of Everything Cabarete Sosua," "La Mulata Community," and "Everything Cabarete."[/QUOTE]I just wrote to him and told him he should take the ad down, thanks.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2396514]Other forums have a lot of dialogue about all the YouTube video's coming out of ahnvee. Exactly what they don't want. My source is saying the mayor is already working on closing the club at the minimum. But time will tell. In the meantime enjoy![/QUOTE]When I first arrived in Sosua 10 years ago, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven!
But even then, given the state of Global politics and what I'd seen in the Europe, Canada and the USA My little voice told me that this was a temporary backwoods in today's culture, and couldn't last. I figured it would last for the remaining days of my active life, and I would make the most of it!
This is exactly how I described Sosua to my friends back then. Like a booze can in your home town that the cops have turned a blind eye to, for now! But Sosua was always changing even then, from a backwoods of small intimate bars with batchata, merigue and salsa, to giant lit up emporiums and urban rap. It became a victim of it's own notoriety.
I made local connections early though, and kept coming back and gradually fell in love with the town. A change from home, frigid winters, miserable neighbors, traffic gridlock, and NA wives and girlfriends who wanted a hell of a lot more from you than a Sosua hooker, and gave even less back! lol.
In spite of the changes, which actually did not affect my own personal lifestyle here, I decided to live here, among a reliable and helpful network of locals that know how to solve any problem with a little dinero. With just a wave or a call I can get groceries, pharmacy, agua, a phone charger, whatever, and I don't need a car! Within 10 minutes I got 3 beautiful beaches!
It may not be the hooker heaven of old, but as a retirement spot it has great potential.
And those beautiful DR Chicas didn't suddenly become old and ugly! And they are still around, even if they're not walking up Main Street in a parade!
The Mayor made a deal with the local bars and workers to move from downtown. Shutting down the new area doesn't make much sense!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2396569]When I first arrived in Sosua 10 years ago, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven!
But even then, given the state of Global politics and what I'd seen in the Europe, Canada and the USA My little voice told me that this was a temporary backwoods in today's culture, and couldn't last. I figured it would last for the remaining days of my active life, and I would make the most of it!
This is exactly how I described Sosua to my friends back then. Like a booze can in your home town that the cops have turned a blind eye to, for now! But Sosua was always changing even then, from a backwoods of small intimate bars with batchata, merigue and salsa, to giant lit up emporiums and urban rap. It became a victim of it's own notoriety.
I made local connections early though, and kept coming back and gradually fell in love with the town. A change from home, frigid winters, miserable neighbors, traffic gridlock, and NA wives and girlfriends who wanted a hell of a lot more from you than a Sosua hooker, and gave even less back! lol.
In spite of the changes, which actually did not affect my own personal lifestyle here, I decided to live here, among a reliable and helpful network of locals that know how to solve any problem with a little dinero. With just a wave or a call I can get groceries, pharmacy, agua, a phone charger, whatever, and I don't need a car! Within 10 minutes I got 3 beautiful beaches!
It may not be the hooker heaven of old, but as a retirement spot it has great potential.
And those beautiful DR Chicas didn't suddenly become old and ugly! And they are still around, even if they're not walking up Main Street in a parade!
The Mayor made a deal with the local bars and workers to move from downtown. Shutting down the new area doesn't make much sense![/QUOTE]You made a lot of good points! I agree with most of what you said. Like you, I will continue to come no matter what they close.
One of my friends who lives there is well connected. His info is usually correct. The powers that be are not happy with all the attention ahnvee is getting. Word is their going to close the bar there at the minimum. That still leaves the casino, which I personally think is their ultimate plan. Then its really out of sight. Be who knows! We shall see! Stay tuned folks!
I wondered if this bar is still open or moved. I haven't read too much about the so called new area, anybody have any reports?
I wondered if this bar is still open or moved. This was my favorite in the Sue for hanging. I haven't read too much about the so called new area, anybody have any reports?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2393238]I always liked the venue at high Carib. The place is very attractive but the solid Dominican girls do not like rubbing shoulders with the Haitian hotties. However the thing that excites me is having a spot for the early afternoon action. Once Rumbas was shut down the girls had nowhere to post up early. There have always been girls who do not like working at night. I am still looking for the silver lining in all the changes.[/QUOTE]Interesting. About what time are you talking?
[QUOTE=George03;2396692]I wondered if this bar is still open or moved. This was my favorite in the Sue for hanging. I haven't read too much about the so called new area, anybody have any reports?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is one of the only bars where girls hang out that is still open, they got lucky and weren't targeted for closure for some reason and it is always packed at night, the small bar next to it too, don't know the name of that bar though.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2396909]Yes, it is one of the only bars where girls hang out that is still open, they got lucky and weren't targeted for closure for some reason and it is always packed at night, the small bar next to it too, don't know the name of that bar though.[/QUOTE]That little bar next door is run by the bartender of the old corner Bermuda Bar. A long time friend from day one, she moved into a small space and opened a hair and manicure salon. I dropped by after she moved in and she brought out a cold beer from the back. I told her it would make a good little bar for her old customers.
She was already ahead of me, and on my next visit she was serving beer to her hair and nail customers.
Next visit she had put up a little bar front and a proper beer fridge, instead of buying singles from the colmado across the street. I always brought her coasters and other bar stuff from Canada on my visits. It was always a little haven for chicas chased off the main drag by the cops.
Gradually she has opened it up into a proper little bar, and is doing well evenings and weekends. I still get a haircut or a man/pedicure from one of her regulars.
We call it Rosa's.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2397103]That little bar next door is run by the bartender of the old corner Bermuda Bar. A long time friend from day one, she moved into a small space and opened a hair and manicure salon. I dropped by after she moved in and she brought out a cold beer from the back. I told her it would make a good little bar for her old customers.
She was already ahead of me, and on my next visit she was serving beer to her hair and nail customers.
Next visit she had put up a little bar front and a proper beer fridge, instead of buying singles from the colmado across the street. I always brought her coasters and other bar stuff from Canada on my visits. It was always a little haven for chicas chased off the main drag by the cops.
Gradually she has opened it up into a proper little bar, and is doing well evenings and weekends. I still get a haircut or a man/pedicure from one of her regulars.
We call it Rosa's.[/QUOTE]She seems to be doing quite well, almost always full, don't know how many are paying customers but I will stop by and buy a few drinks for sure.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2396909]Yes, it is one of the only bars where girls hang out that is still open, they got lucky and weren't targeted for closure for some reason and it is always packed at night, the small bar next to it too, don't know the name of that bar though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, hoping to get that way in January.
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[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2395540]For those who were not aware, that new bar / restaurant is named "Matteo's Seaside Pub." And his old location (Midtown Sosua Restaurant and Bar) is available for purchase at $40,000 USD.
I also saw in the Sosua forum on TripAdvisor that Scandinavian Beach Bar was renamed The Rehab Bar and is apparently doing well. I was sure that place was going to close permanently after Tom died.[/QUOTE]$40,000 usd is dirt cheap for that spot.
A typical Sunday, Sosua downtown quiet. Checked out the new Rumba location down by the Casino, which opened yesterday. Big Joe from Sosua Lights on door. Nice spot, good food, watched Ravens beat SF.
Met a local buddy who took me to Los Charamicos to visit family for Domingo Sociale. Sat out on street, bachata cranked up, drinking cheap Jumbo Presidentes from the colmado and catching up with the latest, and watching the passing parade. Lots of eye candy, no changes ever, in Charamicos.
Invited to go fishing next week with buddy. Didn't catch anything last time we went, no fancy gear just a line on a spool, but a nice cruise around the bay anyway. A recommended diversion for a bored monger.
Problem was when we came back there was a high swell rolling up on the beach and we overturned. Buddy left his boat and motor and made sure I got to shore ok, first.
Locals are like that!
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2395540]For those who were not aware, that new bar / restaurant is named "Matteo's Seaside Pub." And his old location (Midtown Sosua Restaurant and Bar) is available for purchase at $40,000 USD...........[/QUOTE]How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase this?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2398444]How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase this?[/QUOTE]It is no longer for sale.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2398470]It is no longer for sale.[/QUOTE]Let me rephrase the question. How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase a commercial property in the DR?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2398784]Let me rephrase the question. How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase a commercial property in the DR?[/QUOTE]That's a loaded question, LOL.
Commercial. Could mean an income property or an existing business.
If you have experience running a similar business in a similar environment, you have a leg up, but you really need to understand the game and the culture and have some reliable local connections, and a trustworthy local lawyer (if you can find one! LOL).
I ran my own business all my life, and I love Sosua, but I've heard enough tales of woe from business owners here, successful and not, that it's the last place I would attempt it!
I wish anybody who does, good luck!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2398784]Let me rephrase the question. How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase a commercial property in the DR?[/QUOTE][URL]https://drlawyer.com/publication/legal-guide-investing-dominican-republic/[/URL]
On the bus to SD. Spent the weekend in sosua. Things have changed but the game is the same. The old strip is a memory but annvee is rocking all the Hos one man handle. I watched the football game there. Laid atmosphere with the fellows. The night action revolves around the place. In many ways it is better then the Classicos Merengue setup. No admission charges and the place is packed. Enough eye candy for anyone. I did some of my favs but managed to find 3 new ones. Had zero problems with performance or scammers. Day action is a thing of the pass. During day streets are bare. Bailey s is popping as a place for the girls to post early evenings. Sosua is still awesome fun as long as you focus on what have and not what was. Old still kool and out.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2400883]On the bus to SD. Spent the weekend in sosua. Things have changed but the game is the same. The old strip is a memory but annvee is rocking all the Hos one man handle. I watched the football game there. Laid atmosphere with the fellows. The night action revolves around the place. In many ways it is better then the Classicos Merengue setup. No admission charges and the place is packed. Enough eye candy for anyone. I did some of my favs but managed to find 3 new ones. Had zero problems with performance or scammers. Day action is a thing of the pass. During day streets are bare. Bailey s is popping as a place for the girls to post early evenings. Sosua is still awesome fun as long as you focus on what have and not what was. Old still kool and out.[/QUOTE]I stayed there before the club opened. Do you know if you have a room there can you take multiple girls from the club to your room? Do you know if they let girls hang during the day like New Garden?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2400883]Sosua is still awesome fun as long as you focus on what have and not what was.[/QUOTE]So you plan on going back soon?
Mr e I have a flight booked in about 35 days. Got a good round trip price. On my way to Sambill to meet my evenings are.
Entertainment.
Was in Puerto Plata in late September for about 8 days with a bunch of my buddies. Stayed in Lifestyle (and at last figured out how to get chicas in and out. If you need to know how PM me). We had made some arrangements to get some Colombian chicas from Santo Domingo as one of my buddies was more into lighter skin. While it was fairly expensive (like approaching 700+ a day excluding transport), the quality was really something (these girls were actually models and have decent profiles on instagram with their modelling work). After the first 2 days, we sent them their way. I had also connected to a lot of FB friends 2 months prior and most of them were very available (pricing around $150 toda la noches) . I should say FB is a very fertile ground to hunt for chicas all across DR. Almost all the chicas accepted my connect and out of the 50 I reached out more than 30 were interested in meeting me. I videocalled a few and all of them had friends that they could bring for a party. We did a FB chica night on one of the days and that turned out to be just fine.
A few of my other buddies wanted to have a party type of stuff and we went hunting in Sosua on day 4. It pays to have a good driver that knows where to go for sure and that can run errands. Literally within few minutes we were able to get a chica that was from Santiago (and working) somewhere near Bologna (Italian restaurant) and within the next hour we had 6 chicas in our van (including 2 Venezuelan). We got them to the villa, ordered food and got them on the pool and these chicas know how to have fun. It was great to see all of the naked butts and boobs in the pool having fun and getting wasted. We had a great time that night and we sent them home next day afternoon with USD 150 each (not at all a bad investment) and told them we will get them back a day later (which we did). I should say that this trip was one of the better trips for me and I frankly think if you want to party DR (other than Thailand) is likely the only place where one can pull things off without breaking the bank.
Current plan is to spend a couple of months in the DR this winter, of which one if not both will most likely be in Sosua. I really enjoyed a good body rub from the girls across from the Jolly Roger or one of the other little shops and was wondering if they have also been removed from Pedro Clisante along with the other girls.
Either way would not impact my plans just a little less fun is all. Have all the sports bars moved? I believe it Kings / Rumbas where I usually watched sports and understand it has relocated.
One upside is that appears the price of monthly rentals is down from last year.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2402619]
A few of my other buddies wanted to have a party type of stuff and we went hunting in Sosua on day 4. within the next hour we had 6 chicas in our van (including 2 Venezuelan). We got them to the villa, ordered food and got them on the pool and these chicas know how to have fun. It was great to see all of the naked butts and boobs in the pool having fun and getting wasted. We had a great time that night and we sent them home next day afternoon with USD 150 each (not at all a bad investment) one can pull things off without breaking the bank.[/QUOTE]Its good when a plan comes together and everybody is satisfied. Good report. Did they ask for that amount or that was the amount you decided to give them?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2403722]Its good when a plan comes together and everybody is satisfied. Good report. Did they ask for that amount or that was the amount you decided to give them?[/QUOTE]For the Santo Domingo ones -had to negotiate before they started travel. For the local Sosua. Didn't really talk about money (hinted good service good money) and when I gave him 150 each next day afternoon after whole night of debauchery and party -they were super happy. It helps to feed them and get them drinking and they all had a good time as well.
Came in yesterday. Had a great session with one of my WhatsApp contacts. 2500 pesos. Lots of chicas on the beach. Many pretty ones I've never seen before. Collected a few numbers. They agreed to 2500 pesos. Strip is mostly restaurants now. But it's a relaxed vibe. The old rumbas is supposed to reopen. Rumor is hes going to keep both spots open. Rumor is old after one is remodeled and open.
Didn't make it to ahnvee. Peace!
3rd day back. Having a ball! Did one new chica off the beach. A pretty light skinned chica. We had chemistry! Sex was awesome! She took 2500 no problem. Other than her been all chicas I already knew. Been doing the beach, eating on the strip and hitting the smaller bars. Haven't been out past midnight yet. Haven't been to ahnvee or the casino yet. Peace!
If this is true night life is up in the air. On my last trip Anvee was the clue that made the night life work.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2402619]Was in Puerto Plata in late September for about 8 days with a bunch of my buddies. Stayed in Lifestyle (and at last figured out how to get chicas in and out. If you need to know how PM me). We had made some arrangements to get some Colombian chicas from Santo Domingo as one of my buddies was more into lighter skin. While it was fairly expensive (like approaching 700+ a day excluding transport), the quality was really something (these girls were actually models and have decent profiles on instagram with their modelling work). After the first 2 days, we sent them their way. I had also connected to a lot of FB friends 2 months prior and most of them were very available (pricing around $150 toda la noches) . I should say FB is a very fertile ground to hunt for chicas all across DR. Almost all the chicas accepted my connect and out of the 50 I reached out more than 30 were interested in meeting me. I videocalled a few and all of them had friends that they could bring for a party. We did a FB chica night on one of the days and that turned out to be just fine.
A few of my other buddies wanted to have a party type of stuff and we went hunting in Sosua on day 4. It pays to have a good driver that knows where to go for sure and that can run errands. Literally within few minutes we were able to get a chica that was from Santiago (and working) somewhere near Bologna (Italian restaurant) and within the next hour we had 6 chicas in our van (including 2 Venezuelan). We got them to the villa, ordered food and got them on the pool and these chicas know how to have fun. It was great to see all of the naked butts and boobs in the pool having fun and getting wasted. We had a great time that night and we sent them home next day afternoon with USD 150 each (not at all a bad investment) and told them we will get them back a day later (which we did). I should say that this trip was one of the better trips for me and I frankly think if you want to party DR (other than Thailand) is likely the only place where one can pull things off without breaking the bank.[/QUOTE]I don't have PM, can you please explain how to get the girls in and out.
It was closed last night. Rumor is some chicas had a fight. I'll see if it opens tonight.
Having a good run! A lot of chicas went home for the holidays. But as always there's some! Peace!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2406086]If this is true night life is up in the air. On my last trip Anvee was the clue that made the night life work.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2406106]It was closed last night. Rumor is some chicas had a fight. I'll see if it opens tonight.
Having a good run! A lot of chicas went home for the holidays. But as always there's some! Peace![/QUOTE]According to "Bourbon Street" (aka Ahnvee) reporting on another forum, the Skybox club was closed only to give their employees the night off. The Skybox will resume operations after the holiday.
[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2406097]I don't have PM, can you please explain how to get the girls in and out.[/QUOTE]Their is a reason why him to only PM, why don't you spend 20 $ and get it? Makes the world go around.
Have some spare time the week before superbowl, trying to decide if I should make my way back, it's been almost 2 years since my last visit, been too busy with Cuba.
Reading too many mixed reviews on what's going on out there. But feeling hopeful, because its the week leading up to superbowl.
What's going on in town at night, is there a variety of chicas walking back and forth like usual? Are the Hatians still out there?
What is Anvee, I saw a hotel named Anvee on one of the booking sites.
Anything else new and interesting?
Convince me! LOL.
[QUOTE=Newport;2406570]Have some spare time the week before superbowl, trying to decide if I should make my way back, it's been almost 2 years since my last visit, been too busy with Cuba.
Reading too many mixed reviews on what's going on out there. But feeling hopeful, because its the week leading up to superbowl.
What's going on in town at night, is there a variety of chicas walking back and forth like usual? Are the Hatians still out there?
What is Anvee, I saw a hotel named Anvee on one of the booking sites.
Anything else new and interesting?
Convince me! LOL.[/QUOTE]If you have doubts or concerns about Sosua and you have a better destination to go to, then you should go to those other places. Right now, nobody knows what Super Bowl week may be like this season. However, if SB week is anything like the weeks before Christmas, SB week should bring several hundred chicas to Sosua. Even many that rarely come or never have come before. The key is, they will need places where they can post up. The beach during the day is perfect for making hookups. As for the night life, the 2 discos on the east and west of town already are set up as meeting places. Meeting places are necessary because chicas that look like they are on the hustle are not allowed to walk around town freely with zero hassle.
Right now the most popular meeting place in the evening, is at the Ahnvee Resort Hotel (which is about a 1/4 mile from the closed businesses downtown ). They have a large open area for sitting or standing, a pool, a bar and the Bourbon Street restaurant. As you walk towards the rear of the property there is another bar, another pool, and the Skybox disco. The Skybox disco is upstairs over this bar.
For anyone, they need to keep abreast of the status of Ahnvee because if they are forced to close the property / Skybox to non guests of the resort / hotel, or they invoke some type of counter measure against chicas coming and going there, that could be a game changer for many folks. But if they are still operating as they are now by SB week, they will provide a great meeting place venue for all. And of course the other discos next to the 2 casinos will be extra options. Also keep abreast of what's going on with Dave who operated Sosua Lights and now High Caribbean. In the Red Light district Dave is building an entertainment complex right across from the Cestur jailhouse. If they can complete something before February whatever he's built there should be more options for all as a place to hang out.
Guys coming from wherever will be taking a chance until we know the fate of Sosuas day and nightlife. Some will be happy, some will have regrets. Expats and the daring that visit often will see how everything plays out over time. Don't forget. You can still visit Sosua and utilize social media to find talent. Personally, most of my connects are regulars. I don't need any of the venues. But it's nice to know they are there when you want them.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2398784]Let me rephrase the question. How easy is it for a foreigner to purchase a commercial property in the DR?[/QUOTE]First you must take leave of your senses. Next, tear your money up into confetti and throw it into the wind. Finally wire a relative to keep a lawyer on retainer with a large stack of money for bribes- because if by some miracle you make money. They will come throw you in jail so they can steal it. But to get to your question its not hard to obtain the title and God bless the string of wide eyed optimists who keep doing it.
I was down in early November before they closed things up. I am going back in a week or so. The first few times in Sosua I was a kid in a candy store but now I go mostly to hang with friends and drink. I might hit 3 or 4 and prolly 2 times will be with an old regular- will they still wander into the seabreeze from time to time or am I going to hafta trek all the way down to Ahnvee. I'm old man. I just want to score one in the early afternoon and then proceed about my day. Is there any up and coming internet action in Sosua to find chicas.
[QUOTE=Norbert61;2407684]I was down in early November before they closed things up. I am going back in a week or so. The first few times in Sosua I was a kid in a candy store but now I go mostly to hang with friends and drink. I might hit 3 or 4 and prolly 2 times will be with an old regular- will they still wander into the seabreeze from time to time or am I going to hafta trek all the way down to Ahnvee. I'm old man. I just want to score one in the early afternoon and then proceed about my day. Is there any up and coming internet action in Sosua to find chicas.[/QUOTE]If you are going back within a week or so, why not just show up and see for yourself? Then you can make your own assessment / judgement on what adjustments are needed, if any? Keep in mind, a lot of chicas (including regulars) may still be with their families during the Christmas & New Years season. When you were there in November, you saw them at their hungriest and on the hustle because it was before the holiday season. Don't you worry. Sosua always has a skeleton crew of chicas on duty for dudes anxious to get back to Sosua. The closer you get to Super Bowl week, the more chicas you'll see slowly creeping back. This is where guys young and old and in between need to hold the line.
Having a great trip! Awesome sex from my WhatsApp crew! Had one new chica off the beach who was a sex machine! I mean that in a good way! Every one happy with 2500 pesos. Only did ahnvee twice. His drink prices are almost double every where else, so I stay away. The streets are slow, but as always a skeleton crew. My WhatsApp crew keeps me right.
Rumor is the mayor lost in court. So merengue and classico have to reopen by 1/5 or the city has to pay them lost income. Don't know if it's TRUE. We shall see.
Peace!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2407973]Having a great trip! Awesome sex from my WhatsApp crew! Had one new chica off the beach who was a sex machine! I mean that in a good way! Every one happy with 2500 pesos. Only did ahnvee twice. His drink prices are almost double every where else, so I stay away. The streets are slow, but as always a skeleton crew. My WhatsApp crew keeps me right.
Rumor is the mayor lost in court. So merengue and classico have to reopen by 1/5 or the city has to pay them lost income. Don't know if it's TRUE. We shall see.
Peace![/QUOTE]Apparently Chez Montreal and Rhumbas are open again now but with greater emphasis on the restaurant function.
From my understanding, are the options Ahnvee, the casino and pipelining if I was looking to fuck? My first time there I stayed at Hotel Europa and walked everywhere and it was a pleasant enough point and fuck experience. Should I look at staying at Ahnvee if I prefer not having to pay for a motoconcho or taxi? I also tried pipelining via Dominican Cupid and tagged but they all wound up ghosting or being catfish. How do you vets pipeline so well?
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2407973]Having a great trip! Awesome sex from my WhatsApp crew! Had one new chica off the beach who was a sex machine! I mean that in a good way! Every one happy with 2500 pesos. Only did ahnvee twice. His drink prices are almost double every where else, so I stay away. The streets are slow, but as always a skeleton crew. My WhatsApp crew keeps me right.
Rumor is the mayor lost in court. So merengue and classico have to reopen by 1/5 or the city has to pay them lost income. Don't know if it's TRUE. We shall see.
Peace![/QUOTE]There's still life in the old girl yet! Lol
This latest shake up, or rather "shake down" should settle down after the February election.
It's all about that dinero that is no longer pouring in to Sosua, and who needs it more.
Che Montreal is opening up again on the main corner, and the old Rumba is starting to show signs of life! Doesn't make sense to close up all the prime real estate on the Main Street of Sosua, after they've spent so much money improving it with sidewalks, trees and lights.
Deals will me made!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2407973]Having a great trip! Awesome sex from my WhatsApp crew! Had one new chica off the beach who was a sex machine! I mean that in a good way! Every one happy with 2500 pesos. Only did ahnvee twice. His drink prices are almost double every where else, so I stay away. The streets are slow, but as always a skeleton crew. My WhatsApp crew keeps me right.
Rumor is the mayor lost in court. So merengue and classico have to reopen by 1/5 or the city has to pay them lost income. Don't know if it's TRUE. We shall see.
Peace![/QUOTE]I just talked with Big Mama. She also says Classico is coming back. She says it's all political. She says the Sue ain't going nowhere. I'm thinking she may be feeling the financial crunch herself.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2408061]There's still life in the old girl yet! Lol
This latest shake up, or rather "shake down" should settle down after the February election.
It's all about that dinero that is no longer pouring in to Sosua, and who needs it more.
Che Montreal is opening up again on the main corner, and the old Rumba is starting to show signs of life! Doesn't make sense to close up all the prime real estate on the Main Street of Sosua, after they've spent so much money improving it with sidewalks, trees and lights.
Deals will me made![/QUOTE]Sosua runs like a dog with tin cans tied to it's tail. You never know which way that place is going to go. The only thing I've seen stick is when they shut down Passion's and CMP.
Got back from Sosua after a week.
1. Got an Uber driver from Santiago downtown to take me to Sosua. The Uber quote, he stated was about 1800 pesos. I paid him 2000 to drop me to Sosua. Originally I had rented a car but those idiots from Nelly insisted on an Insurance package and so I said, f. It, took a carrito to the bus station but it being a Sunday, buses were on a delayed schedule and it was just then I bumped into this "uber" driver.
2. Sosua was nice and warm, indeed it was almost sweaty. Mango trees were in bloom but unfortunately no mango to speak of, to eat. As I do not have any reason to go to downtown, I made it a point to go around and it was kind of amazing to see many restaurants and all bars closed. After Christmas however, several restaurants were open and as I sat drinking an expresso, followed by a grappa, at the Cuban Bar, there were a bunch of people sitting there on the sidewalk having big meals. The group included even babies and I thought it was rather nice. The Canadian Hamburger place at the corner was open too, as was the place in front of the smaller Playero and fortunately the Schnitzel place. Food apparently is not a problem.
3. I did see a quite a few women still walking about but with the main locations shuttered, the glory days were seen in the rearview mirror. As we know, to find women, in Sosua, one does not have to try hard. In any case, I did not find anyone on the street worth the while.
4. I mostly went to Cabarete to eat at the restaurant at the Viva place, called Beach side. Excellent food, not to speak of the location. Those that are romantically inclined, I suggest they take their arm / eye candies over there.
So there it was, an uneventful week, with two women. One in the morning and one in the afternoon each day, showing up at my place and no talk of a blue pill. I even surprised myself! I have a sneaky suspicion though that my male member is enjoying the respite after all that abrasion.
Happy New Year, all!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2408061]"...the old Rumba is starting to show signs of life![/QUOTE]A Sosua veteran told me that a long time ago, Rumba was an open-air bar where the WGs could be easily seen inside just by standing on the sidewalk outside. And then a few years ago, the local politicians made Rumba enclose itself with smoked-glass windows so that you couldn't see inside anymore.
Take a look at the attached picture that I ripped off from the SosuaNews website. It shows that all of the smoked glass windows have been removed and that Rumba will once again be an open air establishment.
Now, the question: who in their right mind would ever open anything (bar, restaurant, nightclub) in Sosua given the ridiculous rules that constantly emanate from the feckless Sosua "leadership?" And those same people are running for reelection again? Unbelievable!
I never knew how much I liked Rumbas until it closed. Ladies would post in the early afternoon. The numbers were good and the Quality decent. It did a great business.
They were at flow cleaning when I walked by headed to the beach. They say their going to reopen. So is merengue and classico. Word is the mayor lost in court. No word about how the policia will treat the chicas!
I have met quite a few girls at Rumba. Freelancers from local area come there early to make some money. Some like to go back home but others would like to stay all night. I would prefer not going to merengue or Classico. Lots of hard core chicas at merengue and Classico does not get hopping till after 1 am.
Hopefully the word gets around and chicas from all over come back to Sosua. Military and the police behavior needs to be watched. Do not know if they are controlled by mayor's office or from central administration.
The mayor has the military and police in her pocket. They will try to get their way one way or the other. Her pride is on the line. Things are escalating in this fight of egos. If she loses it makes her look really bad.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2409011]They were at flow cleaning when I walked by headed to the beach. They say their going to reopen. So is merengue and classico. Word is the mayor lost in court. No word about how the policia will treat the chicas![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2409002]I never knew how much I liked Rumbas until it closed. Ladies would post in the early afternoon. The numbers were good and the Quality decent. It did a great business.[/QUOTE]I can't agree with you more. Had Rumbas not closed I would have been a regular to the DR up to today. I'm monitoring news about it being posted here; I'm hopeful.
Wrapping up a 2 week trip! Had a good time as usual. Only rained a couple of days!
Things were slow chica wise, as expected for the holidays. But my WhatsApp team took good care of papi! Did 1 new chica off the beach who was great.
Things are a little slow with all the closures. Mainly did the small bars. Went to ahnvee 3 times. Mainly because friends dragged me there. Drinks are double any where else. Hit the casino a few times. Same ole.
Rumor is merengue and flow will be open soon. Not sure about classico.
Sosua lives! Be back in a few months. Peace!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2409443]Wrapping up a 2 week trip! Had a good time as usual. Only rained a couple of days!
Things were slow chica wise, as expected for the holidays. But my WhatsApp team took good care of papi! Did 1 new chica off the beach who was great.
Things are a little slow with all the closures. Mainly did the small bars. Went to ahnvee 3 times. Mainly because friends dragged me there. Drinks are double any where else. Hit the casino a few times. Same ole.
Rumor is merengue and flow will be open soon. Not sure about classico.
Sosua lives! Be back in a few months. Peace![/QUOTE]To keep Classico closed permanently some genius has to figure out why a second floor after hours disco (where no sexual activity is allowed) is out of place in a resort party town.
Even "family" couples of all sexes love to get down to the music while on vacation!
Decided to hit Sosua in route back to Medellin to start the New Year. Things sure aren't what they used to be with most of the places on the main drag shut down. No street scene anymore except a few stragglers and there's a bar across the street from Rocky's that's had a few girls out in the evening but they are primarily Haitains, and the bottom of the barrel.
I remember the good old days when you could sit on the main drag sipping a beer, and watch the Putas walking up and down the street, strutting their stuff, but no more. I always loved the street scene here, and when Latinos was around I liked that place as well.
I did pick up a box of Generic Viagra with 96 pills which cost 1100 Pesos or about $ 21 USD or about. 22 twenty two cents a 100 MG pill, so quite a bargain for sure.
So if your coming to Sosua, well the beach is great, and the Viagra is cheap.
Besides going to the new place at the end of town where all the girls go now, probably the best way to work this place is using Tinder.
You can look like Alferd E. Newman and you will get dozens and dozens of hits, so best line them up before arriving and screen them, get their WhatsApp number, etc.
I have been staying at Alicia Beach Hotel, formerly CasaCayena, and it's pretty much the same as before but literally vacant. Got my same old room # 309 which took them a year to renovate and I like the location.
Other than that, what a letdown Sosua has been, maybe one day it will return its glory days. I have such fond memories of this place, but have moved on.
I hear Classicos and many of the shut down facilities willl be open in 2 weeks. They must have heard thtat I was coming down and the day before I get there they are opening up. I am sure t will take a while for everyone to regroup but there is hope.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2408075]I just talked with Big Mama. She says the Sue ain't going nowhere. I'm thinking she may be feeling the financial crunch herself.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think she does. Had my usual baked fish at Big Mama last month, and she did not give me my regular-customer discount for the first time, in spite of my hints.
This is Tinders / Whatsapp all the way for me, now. Annhavee is just a so-so brothel. You get better girls and lot more fun at any FKK now, for not that much more.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2409712]Decided to hit Sosua in route back to Medellin to start the New Year. Things sure aren't what they used to be with most of the places on the main drag shut down. No street scene anymore except a few stragglers and there's a bar across the street from Rocky's that's had a few girls out in the evening but they are primarily Haitains, and the bottom of the barrel.[/QUOTE]Some of us that loved the Sue for the reasons the mention the current situation is just too much. Still some of us go there with some understanding and do well considering the circumstances.
But we are up on the new information. I feel sorry for those who already made their vacation plans, arrive their and have to make some major adjustment.
I understand all the old places had the locks taken off and will be up and running next week. Just in tme for my arrival.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2411099]Some of us that loved the Sue for the reasons the mention the current situation is just too much. Still some of us go there with some understanding and do well considering the circumstances.
But we are up on the new information. I feel sorry for those who already made their vacation plans, arrive their and have to make some major adjustment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2411108]I understand all the old places had the locks taken off and will be up and running next week. Just in tme for my arrival.[/QUOTE]They say you don't miss it truly until it's gone. I hope you're right Olski. My last trip I cut short because I took the sSue out the rotation. I'm still not going to jump in headfirst. I know the Dominican's love challenge is America two weeks. That could very easily be two months in Dominican time. Or maybe just a ploy to get that Super Bowl money that the city would love to cash in. I'm headed to the DR however I'm going to sit on the fence and observe for a few trips before I make that move northward.
Big Mama just hit me up on WhatsApp everything is open. Theyre going to be some starving chicass ready for business. Im here but Im still not convinced Im ready to go up there yet.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2411405]Big Mama just hit me up on WhatsApp everything is open. Theyre going to be some starving chicass ready for business. Im here but Im still not convinced Im ready to go up there yet.[/QUOTE]Hey GrowmMan, Nightwhaler here. If I may ask where are you on the island? I am looking for some new territory to roam. I am glad to hear that everything is open again. I will be in country on the 15th and ready to go at it.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2411476]Hey GrowmMan, Nightwhaler here. If I may ask where are you on the island? I am looking for some new territory to roam. I am glad to hear that everything is open again. I will be in country on the 15th and ready to go at it.
Peace,[/QUOTE]I am in the Boca Chica area. It's Haitian central here. The piano bar was packed with them. But I honestly didn't see much to my liking.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2411606]I am in the Boca Chica area. It's Haitian central here. The piano bar was packed with them. But I honestly didn't see much to my liking.[/QUOTE]Thank you my brother. I too have a fondness for the beautiful Hatian ladies. Hope you find what you are looking for.
Enjoy,
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2411405]Big Mama just hit me up on WhatsApp everything is open. Theyre going to be some starving chicass ready for business. Im here but Im still not convinced Im ready to go up there yet.[/QUOTE]Hey Big dude. What did she mean by everything is open? If she is referring to all of the businesses on the strip that were closed, I haven't seen it yet. I have seen tables and chairs setup inside and outside Kings / Rumba. Maybe the other businesses are doing the same. But no actual business or patrons yet. It's 3:30 pm Thursday Jan 9,2020 as I type this. Can anyone else chime in on this?
Sometimes we have to take what locals tell us with a grain of salt. Like Chicken man. He used to try to be the 1st to tell us Rumba was opening on such and such a day, like tomorrow or next week. But his info was usually inaccurate. He just wanted to be the 1st to get people hyped. Thats how rumor mills start and maintain. I'm sure I read somewhere that businesses were supposed to be open on the 5th. That didn't happen.
Does anyone know him or seen him around?
A 42-year-old foreigner drowned yesterday while he was swimming at Cabarete's Encuentro beach.
The deceased was identified as Robert A W, a US citizen, whose lifeless body was recovered from the waters of the Atlantic late Wednesday.
The foreigner reportedly had come as a tourist to the Cabarete area and went swimming despite being warned about the danger of that beach.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2411737]Hey Big dude. What did she mean by everything is open? If she is referring to all of the businesses on the strip that were closed, I haven't seen it yet. I have seen tables and chairs setup inside and outside Kings / Rumba. Maybe the other businesses are doing the same. But no actual business or patrons yet. It's 3:30 pm Thursday Jan 9,2020 as I type this. Can anyone else chime in on this?
Sometimes we have to take what locals tell us with a grain of salt. Like Chicken man. He used to try to be the 1st to tell us Rumba was opening on such and such a day, like tomorrow or next week. But his info was usually inaccurate. He just wanted to be the 1st to get people hyped. Thats how rumor mills start and maintain. I'm sure I read somewhere that businesses were supposed to be open on the 5th. That didn't happen.[/QUOTE]I was just sitting back passing off the information waiting for you or someone else who is actually there to confirm it or not. Until I hear it from people like you it's still a rumor to me. As much as I love the Sue and Miss the set up but I am cautious going back.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2411765]The foreigner reportedly had come as a tourist to the Cabarete area and went swimming despite being warned about the danger of that beach.[/QUOTE]That is the thing about DR beaches. You are at your own risk. A lot of mfs that don't know about the sea can fuck up easily just like he did. At least in Brazil they put out flags to let you know when to stay the hell out of the water.
When I drove 40 minutes from Las Terrenas to El Maron Beach the other day, I immediately saw that I just wasted a bunch of time. The current was so strong that I knew not to go anywhere near that water. But along comes a foreign family. They were not watching and their little 4 year old girl was about to get in the water. I yelled the shit at that little girl. If she would have gotten swept up they would have been minus one kid, because I damn sure would not have risked my life in that kind of current.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2411803]That is the thing about DR beaches. You are at your own risk. A lot of mfs that don't know about the sea can fuck up easily just like he did. At least in Brazil they put out flags to let you know when to stay the hell out of the water.
When I drove 40 minutes from Las Terrenas to El Maron Beach the other day, I immediately saw that I just wasted a bunch of time. The current was so strong that I knew not to go anywhere near that water. But along comes a foreign family. They were not watching and their little 4 year old girl was about to get in the water. I yelled the shit at that little girl. If she would have gotten swept up they would have been minus one kid, because I damn sure would not have risked my life in that kind of current.[/QUOTE]You got it right about water fucking people up! I was stationed in Hawaii for 3 years. Rips tides and strong currents took people out on a regular basis. I'm glad you were able to save the little girl!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2411793]I was just sitting back passing off the information waiting for you or someone else who is actually there to confirm it or not. Until I hear it from people like you it's still a rumor to me. As much as I love the Sue and Miss the set up but I am cautious going back.[/QUOTE]It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas siting inside with some white guys yesterday.
Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.
They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.
Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.
Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2412048]It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas siting inside with some white guys yesterday.
Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.
They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.
Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.
Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story.[/QUOTE]Thank you much for the headsup. Will be in town next week and let's hope it loosens up.
Peace,
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2412048]It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas siting inside with some white guys yesterday.
Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.
They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.
Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.
Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story.[/QUOTE]Yea. The policía clearly aren't going to let up. Even if willie wins they probably won't. A lot of this came from Santo Domingo, not just the mayor. When things do reopen, and in my opinion at some point they will, chicas are going to have to go right inside the bar. No wandering around anymore.
I had awesome 2 week run. The smart chicas are taking good care of their clients so they stay in the rotation. Building a WhatsApp team pays off. Peace.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2412165]Yea. The polica clearly aren't going to let up. Even if willie wins they probably won't. A lot of this came from Santo Domingo, not just the mayor. [b]When things do reopen, and in my opinion at some point they will, chicas are going to have to go right inside the bar. No wandering around anymore.[/b]
I had awesome 2 week run. The smart chicas are taking good care of their clients so they stay in the rotation. Building a WhatsApp team pays off. Peace.[/QUOTE]I agree, chicas may be allowed to hang out in the establishments but their movement on the street is going to be a challenge. I have to say, many of the chicas I see boldly walking around in and around the strip, are mostly newbies to Sosua. They are in groups of 2 to 4 walking around like extras in a movie. Then there are the chicas who are on motoconchos or they are driving a scooter (sometimes with other chicas on the back) or in cars full of chicas.
It was interesting that Bar Central had lifted it's windows so you could see inside. It had plenty of guys in there, and a few chicas in there looking for work or already sitting with a client. The German restaurant was full of guys and full of chicas (Haitian mostly). Chez Montreal at the time I passed by had very few patrons and no chicas in or hanging around it. Too exposed to be standing outside. But if you look to the small liquor store across from Chez Montreal, you'll see a few chicas sitting or standing outside looking hard for potential clients walking or driving by.
If you are by Sosua Lights, Banco Progresso or Banco Reservas chicas that stay upstairs (next door to both banks) may be hanging outside or nearby in the area (like near Europa). Always low hanging fruit in the vicinity. Still Politur and PN's are constantly patrolling the area keeping an eye on chica movement. And for those that don't know, just because Ahnvee is the go to spot, chicas still have to be cautious in how they move about to and from Ahnvee. The police are constantly in the area, sometimes parked out front of Ahnvee.
I forgot to mention, that bar around the corner from PC on DR Rosen seems to be a hot spot. Plenty of guys in there, and plenty of chicas in and just outside of the place. Bar Central, German restaurant, and that bar on Dr Rosen are mostly white guys, I dont see any black guys posted up ( looking for chicas ) in any of these places. If black guys are connecting with chicas during the day or early evening, it's from the beach, and the chicas I mentioned that are taking a chance walking around the area, the ones on scooters, and driving around with a car full of chicas, or anywhere near where many of these chicas rooms are. After that, it's Ahnvee, the casinos or clubs near the casinos.
Hello,
new here. First time in Sue. I was walking around on my second night here when two Hati_n girls walked by and I started talking to them. They looked OK but one of them was pretty cute about 5'8" or so. Slender, 32 b maybe. She asked for 3,000 p and I offered 2,500 but realize now I could have easily shaved 500 or more off of that. She took me to someplace that had a room for 500 p. She was basically a dead body after we got in the room. It was really disappointing. Called herself Rossa. I would not repeat and don't' recommend her. She wore her hair straightened and about shoulder length. Her friends hair was short and curly. The issue is I have some red bumps on my leg that I don't know if I got from her or the bed. Wondered if any of you might know what it could be. I thought maybe bed bugs but it doesn't itch. Any feedback would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2412437]Hello,
new here. First time in Sue. I was walking around on my second night here when two Hati_n girls walked by and I started talking to them. They looked OK but one of them was pretty cute about 5'8" or so. Slender, 32 b maybe. She asked for 3,000 p and I offered 2,500 but realize now I could have easily shaved 500 or more off of that. She took me to someplace that had a room for 500 p. She was basically a dead body after we got in the room. It was really disappointing. Called herself Rossa. I would not repeat and don't' recommend her. She wore her hair straightened and about shoulder length. Her friends hair was short and curly. The issue is I have some red bumps on my leg that I don't know if I got from her or the bed. Wondered if any of you might know what it could be. I thought maybe bed bugs but it doesn't itch. Any feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Most likely bedbugs, let's hope. Be aware that scabbies are a real threat in unclean pleaces. Keep an eye out they will bury themselves under the skin and make it their home. Within a couple of weeks you will notice itching at night. I got the bug a fews years back at a hole in the wall in Charamicos where a chica was living. Ugly! Keep on top of it and use neem oil to kill them.
Peace,
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2412551]Be aware that scabbies are a real threat in unclean pleaces. Keep an eye out they will bury themselves under the skin and make it their home. Within a couple of weeks you will notice itching at night.,[/QUOTE]Man that shit is no fucking joke. I have had it a couple of times. I don't remember where I picked it up the second time, but the first time I got it in Brazil in 2005. It might have been 3 weeks before I even realized what it was. Itching and scratching, itching and scratching. I had it in my dick and my hand. Ended up having to buy some Rid shampoo at Walmart both times. Still had that stuff under my counter from the second time years ago.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2412692]Man that shit is no fucking joke. I have had it a couple of times. I don't remember where I picked it up the second time, but the first time I got it in Brazil in 2005. It might have been 3 weeks before I even realized what it was. Itching and scratching, itching and scratching. I had it in my dick and my hand. Ended up having to buy some Rid shampoo at Walmart both times. Still had that stuff under my counter from the second time years ago.[/QUOTE]Yes, scabbies is a nightmare! Luckily mine was not too bad, but terrible. They got on my nuts too. They start moving much more at night and itch so bad you want rip your skin off. I found some stuff online that uses "neem oil" and it worked great. The doctor came up with some kind of toxic horse cream that you cover your body with and it did not work completely. Stuff is dangerous and toxic. You can actually see the feces trail under the skin as they eat their way through your skin. Anyway the neem oil kit will do the job and comes with other things to clean your bed sheets and other things.
Peace,
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2412048]It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas siting inside with some white guys yesterday.
Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.
They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.
Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.
Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story.[/QUOTE]This was the detailed information I was looking for. Thank you.
[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;2411765]Does anyone know him or seen him around?
A 42-year-old foreigner drowned yesterday while he was swimming at Cabarete's Encuentro beach.
The deceased was identified as Robert A W, a US citizen, whose lifeless body was recovered from the waters of the Atlantic late Wednesday.
The foreigner reportedly had come as a tourist to the Cabarete area and went swimming despite being warned about the danger of that beach.[/QUOTE]Playa Encuentro if that was were this guy drowned is not in Cabarette, but a few miles away from Cabarette towards Sosua. PLaya Encuentro is a surfing beach, versus a swimming beach, with a very shallow reef that during low tide is exposed. I have surfed there many times and have rarely seen anyone swimming there.
Regardless, it's sad that someone so young died swimming.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2412437]The issue is I have some red bumps on my leg that I don't know if I got from her or the bed. Wondered if any of you might know what it could be. I thought maybe bed bugs but it doesn't itch. Any feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Look into Molluscum contagiosum.
[QUOTE=TpHorn;2413105]Look into Molluscum contagiosum.[/QUOTE]Doesn't look like that. Looks like chigger bites. But I have not been around vegetation. Don't think it's scabbies. Thank god! Because there are no red lines connecting the bumps. Maybe bedbugs or another type of mite. Thanks all for the feedback! I tried to upload a photo but I guess I don't have the permissions yet being a new member.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2412165]Yea. The polica clearly aren't going to let up. Even if willie wins they probably won't. A lot of this came from Santo Domingo, not just the mayor. When things do reopen, and in my opinion at some point they will, chicas are going to have to go right inside the bar. No wandering around anymore.
I had awesome 2 week run. The smart chicas are taking good care of their clients so they stay in the rotation. Building a WhatsApp team pays off. Peace.[/QUOTE]Today I heard directly from the mouth of a member of the Tourism Board that all bars are allowed to reopen next week.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2414311]Today I heard directly from the mouth of a member of the Tourism Board that all bars are allowed to reopen next week.[/QUOTE]Just imagine some sort of Ministry of Tourism, or Ministry of War for that matter, starts making decisions on which bars may open in the US.
They have to come clear on why and by which authority they have been shut down in the first place, and don't allow it to repeat again.
Unlike Colombia, somehow Dominicans don't get the concept of the right to work, somehow they have some strange vision of protecting the vulnerable, somehow they find acceptable to harass their own women.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2414311]Today I heard directly from the mouth of a member of the Tourism Board that all bars are allowed to reopen next week.[/QUOTE]A dead Main Street in a tourist town is losing money fast! Can't last.
Only money talks in DR LOL.
Was on pisante last night place was very nice good crowd vastly European but that was nice couples and families with kids. It was charming. No joke was lovely. Other side of town ahnvee was balling. All the women you could want. The is right this great for the whole town. Win Win. It is better if Classicos does not reopen and was fan. Current set up is better all around. Both sides should declare victory and move on.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2414532]Was on pisante last night place was very nice good crowd vastly European but that was nice couples and families with kids. It was charming. No joke was lovely. Other side of town ahnvee was balling. All the women you could want. The is right this great for the whole town. Win Win. It is better if Classicos does not reopen and was fan. Current set up is better all around. Both sides should declare victory and move on.[/QUOTE]The new pedro clisante is ok. It is more relaxing without all the street rats and kids hounding people. But it's a little boring. Furthermore, I frankly think it's too European. We need a nice mix, we don't want anyone to start thinking its "their" area, or "they" belong down "there". We always need to maintain balance.
Plus ahnvee needs competition. They should not be allowed to corner the market and dictate to people. I also enjoy being able to make the rounds, hit multiple bars. It would be nice to hit a few places downtown, then hit ahnvee or the casino if I choose to.
The owners have too much invested to let it go. I think they will reopen, but with some restrictions. I don't think it will go back to being the meat market it was. Peace.
Our seen does not go well with the family values seen and that is ok. Both seens can be enjoyed be anyone who desires. Our crowd was hurtling the European centered businesses. Now they the space they need to make a go of it. We are better apart.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2414648]Our seen does not go well with the family values seen and that is ok. Both seens can be enjoyed be anyone who desires. Our crowd was hurtling the European centered businesses. Now they the space they need to make a go of it. We are better apart.[/QUOTE]First and foremost. The closures were not legal. These people have invested a lot of money in those businesses. They can't just shut them down like that. Prostitution isn't even illegal there bruh.
Secondly, the Europeans do the same thing everyone else does. Bar central, the German bar, city lights, these were full of Europeans chasing chicas, mainly Haitian chicas.
I agree that everyone needs to be discreet and respectful. Mainly discreet, and stop the YouTube videos.
But again, I enjoy downtown, with or without merengue. I DO NOT want to create a situation where Europeans feel downtown is there's and we should be at ahnvee. We have as much money as them, and we also enjoy a quiet dinner and a glass of wine. They do the same thing we do. Let's not start the "apart" stuff. Peace.
Super Bowl Week is almost here. I see a lot more non regulars (Chicas) in town this last week. Many at the beach and Ahnvee. Many chicas seen in packs walking in the vicinity of the strip. Usually looking for stray clients, and making their way to the rooming houses and hotels they are set up at. I expect there will be more showing up in the coming days and week leading up to SBW.
Now for the bad news. In spite of the chica invasion, there is an invasion of mongers as well. Groups of guys. Quite a few guys look like it's their 1st time or they have been to Sosua a couple of times. Then as what was pointed out. I do notice a lot more Europeans in Sosua on vacation. At Ahnvee there is a blend of patrons enjoying the scene.
I do tend to notice that the downtown strip area from Sinatras to Chez Montreal is looking more European now, with some exceptions. Even with pay for play on the strip, you see more couples where the client is white, than you do with any others. Black guys you see out and about tend to dine more at mixed crowd places like-Flip Flop, Terra Linda, Baileys, New Garden, Kings (new location), Sinatras, Ramonas at Europa, and definitely on the beach.
I strongly believe that some of the restaurants on the strip (that have mostly European customers) prefer certain patrons not come. They'll be served, but I believe some patrons don't welcome their presence.
I like the ambiance at The Tree House #112 bar/restaurant on the beach. It can be a mixed crowd one moment, or black or white and locals separately. Either way everyone enjoys it there. Good music ( sometimes adjusted for the crowd ) , good food. A decent but not perfect wait staff. ( hard to find excellence in the DR when it comes to customer service ). Even with the wait staff there is diversity. Haitians and Dominicans working together. The owner a great host aimed to please his customers.
I was there a few times in the past week, and even there I noticed the diversity. Haitians and Dominicans working together. A decent but not perfect wait staff. I do think the staff gets a little more in house training than what is common. A diverse crowd patronizes Mr Flip Flop on the regular. Food and service is good. Nobody there is disgusted by who is sitting next to them. Unless they are rooting for an opposing team. LOL. Again, Mr Flip Flop is a great host (like Sherman at The Tree House) that makes sure his customers are taken care of.
Some people take what Sosua has to offer for granted. But can you imagine spending all your time at resort being treated like cattle? Having to go to their restaurants on a schedule. Whereas in Sosua you can wine and dine all over the town and vicinity, or even buy your own groceries and cook your food.
I ate dinner at Bailees. It has a more upscale vibe. The food was good but on the higher end price for seafood. The service was slow. Also ate at a place called fresh fresh. It's east of Germany restaurant. Food was excellent. Service was good. Had an omelette for breakfast and a fish (dorado) sandwich for lunch.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2414859]I ate dinner at Bailees. It has a more upscale vibe. The food was good but on the higher end price for seafood. The service was slow. Also ate at a place called fresh fresh. It's east of Germany restaurant. Food was excellent. Service was good. Had an omelette for breakfast and a fish (dorado) sandwich for lunch.[/QUOTE]Examples of the seafood you had, and the price? I learned a lesson at Baileys about their fried chicken wings. They are the worst wings on the planet. They taste like they were boiled in hard water, then fried. Look great on the plate. But no flavor and no taste. No sauce in the world will make them wings taste good. But that's just my experience over the years.
Fresh Fresh on the main road, food is good and tasty. Only problem I had, is 3 attempts by one not to give me back my correct change. Two different occasions I paid my bill with a 2000 peso bill. I get my change back minus a 1000 peso bill. And I swear that was no mistake, it was intentional. The 3rd time, I order a beverage (were sitting in the courtyard area) , pay the chick, and she doesn't bring me any change. I wait and wait, to see how long its going to take for her to bring change. Never comes. So I finally get up to call her over because she isn't trying to come anywhere near us.
I say, did you forget to bring me my change? Then she jumps to it immediately. Chick didn't forget. They can act like they are busy, or act like your change was a tip. Some locals at restaurants don't expect some foreigners to count their change for accuracy. They see us used to being engaged eating and talking, not always paying attention to our change when it comes back. Sometimes forgetting it entirely.
Anything they do to shortchange you, they can just act like it was an honest mistake. The sincere act is very phony. They are willing to take that risk. It's a common practice. Always check your change, they can shortchange you 20 pesos to up to 1000 pesos. Every little bit they hustle supplements their pockets / purses. It aint theft to them. It's just business. If you don't check your change, the loss is on you.
I've eaten at Bailee's twice. Once was the 1 lb lobster dinner about 1,750 pesos. The other was a seafood mix plate at about 1,100 pesos. Both were good but lobster is just too damn expensive for me. Their service was slow both nights and their salad bar is a joke. I ate a 1 lb fried red snapper at Flip Flops. It was as good or better and was 1,000 pesos. Service was good at Flips but the food took a pretty long time considering I was the only one eating that night. Thanks for the info on fresh fresh. I haven't had that problem but you never know and it's always good to check. They have another fresh fresh outlet in Cabarete and I've had good service there the couple of times I've gone. Another place worth checking in Cabarete is Mojito bar on the beach.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2414993]I ate a 1 lb fried red snapper at Flip Flops. It was as good or better and was 1,000 pesos. [/QUOTE]If you go across the street from Charamicos where the locals eat, it is like 400 pesos.
Always a heavy heart when leaving. Lost count of how many chicas I had. Most performed great. Only one sub par. Young haitian who was new to the game. Ehnvee does an excellent job of hosting. It gives you everything rumbas and classicos did but at a better venue. I like the new set up. Pedro clisante has a better look. I saw families walking the streets in the evenings. First in 9 years. The small bars that catered to europeans seemed to be doing much better. Ehnvees location and facilities work. IMHO the mayor has it right.
We can coexist. I loved classicos but it was hurting the towns image.
I was at super pola yesterday and witnessed a mother with 2 small children trying avoid a pro doing the walk of shame in black see threw spandex. I feel bad for business owners who were shut down but their time has run its course. A portion of sosua could not enjoy thier town due to the large numbers that flooded the streets. The current venues are fine. I think everyone is benefiting except the closed clubs but I can live with that.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2414993]I've eaten at Bailee's twice. Once was the 1 lb lobster dinner about 1,750 pesos. The other was a seafood mix plate at about 1,100 pesos. Both were good but lobster is just too damn expensive for me. Their service was slow both nights and their salad bar is a joke. I ate a 1 lb fried red snapper at Flip Flops. It was as good or better and was 1,000 pesos. Service was good at Flips but the food took a pretty long time considering I was the only one eating that night. Thanks for the info on fresh fresh. I haven't had that problem but you never know and it's always good to check. They have another fresh fresh outlet in Cabarete and I've had good service there the couple of times I've gone. Another place worth checking in Cabarete is Mojito bar on the beach.[/QUOTE]I have mentioned this before. There is a restaurant on the way to the beach on left. You cannot miss it. He has British flags outside. He have me almost 2 lb lobster and one big whole fried fish, few shrimps. All for 1300 pesos. Side of salad, potatoes etc included.
Baileys IMHO is overrated. Only thing I liked there is eggs Benedict.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415026]If you go across the street from Charamicos where the locals eat, it is like 400 pesos.[/QUOTE]The place across from Caribe Tours (that I believe you are referring to?) does indeed have good prices for fish meals.
Unfortunately for me, the taste of their cooked fish does not appeal to my taste. I feel the same way about going to Maimon for fish. The fish they have indeed has great prices. But in my opinion and experience they don't taste the same cooked, like several restaurants I go to on Sosua beach. And for me, I'd rather pay 600 pesos for a meal I'm enjoying fully, rather than saving 200 pesos, but missing the flavor I like.
Also, I tend to like the option of having yellow rice (with beans if you want it) they serve with the fish on the beach. Whereas that restaurant across from CT I believe only serves white rice. With beans if you want it. I also like the garlic sauce I get from some of the kitchens on the beach. And the steamed veggies are available. Not just salad.
My favorites on the beach are Aris Restaurant #67, Mofongo King #74, Jorge Mayra Rest #64 , Fast Freddies #164 Bear in mind. Jorge / Mayra, Mofongo King, and Fast Freddies have their own kitchens. Whereas Aris, Joselito's Restaurants and a few others, share a kitchen that is located in the alley behind Aris Restaurant.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2415162]I have mentioned this before. There is a restaurant on the way to the beach on left. You cannot miss it. He has British flags outside. He have me almost 2 lb lobster and one big whole fried fish, few shrimps. All for 1300 pesos. Side of salad, potatoes etc included.
Baileys IMHO is overrated. Only thing I liked there is eggs Benedict.[/QUOTE]On the way to the beach? Coming from where? I can think of 4 paths that are on the way to Sosua beach. Walking past Baileys make a quick left at the little park, you run into Sinatras which is on the way to the beach. Then you have Pedro Clisante a main street, and there are several restaurants there. One closed briefly because the owner died. It was called Brittania, I think it had British Flags. Now it's owned by Mateo from Midtown Restaurant. Not sure if any flags are still there. There is Jolly Rogers, but don't recall if they have British Flags outside. Thats funny you recall the flags but don't recall the name of the place, or the name of the street you ate at. BTW when were you there last?
[QUOTE=OldKool;2415140]Always a heavy heart when leaving. Lost count of how many chicas I had. Most performed great. Only one sub par. Young haitian who was new to the game. Ehnvee does an excellent job of hosting. It gives you everything rumbas and classicos did but at a better venue. I like the new set up. Pedro clisante has a better look. I saw families walking the streets in the evenings. First in 9 years. The small bars that catered to europeans seemed to be doing much better. Ehnvees location and facilities work. IMHO the mayor has it right.
We can coexist. I loved classicos but it was hurting the towns image.
I was at super pola yesterday and witnessed a mother with 2 small children trying avoid a pro doing the walk of shame in black see threw spandex. I feel bad for business owners who were shut down but their time has run its course. A portion of sosua could not enjoy thier town due to the large numbers that flooded the streets. The current venues are fine. I think everyone is benefiting except the closed clubs but I can live with that.[/QUOTE]Have you tried going to Ahnvee Resort Hotel? It's pretty good too.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2415169]The place across from Caribe Tours (that I believe you are referring to?) does indeed have good prices for fish meals.[/QUOTE]You are right! I visited that spot. Up the hill on the other side of the traffic light, a few years back, for a couple of times. The fish has no taste and I found out why. Most fishes, cotorra (or parrot fish) and Tilapia are frozen stiff in the freezer, who knows from which year.
I am told there is a place beyond cabarete, where they have a fish tank and live fish to serve but I have never been there. May be next time, but it is far. In the meantime, it is good to know the beachside Sosua places that you listed, I presume all of them have fish?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2415162]I have mentioned this before. There is a restaurant on the way to the beach on left. You cannot miss it. He has British flags outside. He have me almost 2 lb lobster and one big whole fried fish, few shrimps. All for 1300 pesos. Side of salad, potatoes etc included.
Baileys IMHO is overrated. Only thing I liked there is eggs Benedict.[/QUOTE]That would be Sinatra's, on Pedro, on your left before you turn down to the beach. Lots of flags!
Steve has specials on lobster and steak, 2 for 1 price Wednesdays and Saturdays. Decent food, decent price, but much better service than Baileys. He's from my home town in the U. K.
At night he sings, too! Lol
I like Bailey's for certain foods. That goes for a lot of restaurants in Sosua. Everyone has their favorites for whatever reason and there are a lot of them to choose from. Explore and make your own conclusions.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2415242]You are right! I visited that spot. Up the hill on the other side of the traffic light, a few years back, for a couple of times. The fish has no taste and I found out why. Most fishes, cotorra (or parrot fish) and Tilapia are frozen stiff in the freezer, who knows from which year.
I am told there is a place beyond cabarete, where they have a fish tank and live fish to serve but I have never been there. May be next time, but it is far. In the meantime, it is good to know the beachside Sosua places that you listed, I presume all of them have fish?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yeah I should have added that tidbit of info. The restaurants I listed are all places I'd get a fish meal from specifically. FYI, I had a 1 lb fried grouper yesterday from Aris restaurant on the beach #67, and my two buddies each had a 1 lb fried red snapper. We each had yellow rice, steamed veggies, and a tiny green salad (not shredded cabbage).
A little garlic sauce on the side. Each meal was 600 pesos, plus a 10% service fee. The bill was 2992 with the inclusion of beverages. 2 small cokes, 2 rum punches , 3 shots of mamajuana , and 1 bottle of water. That averages out to almost 1000 pesos a customer. Three guys.
IMO, a lot of these restaurants make a killing with the cost of beverages. So if one is inclined to do so, they can bring their own ice cold soft drinks or booze. Or they can buy at least one beverage from the establishment, and supplement with their own.
Aris has his own seating inside and just outside of his place. But if you want to set up on the sand (near the walk path , so one can see the chicks nearby ) he'll set up a table over there. Aris's crew or him personally can provide your service, or any of the lounge chair guys will offer you service to Aris restaurant. They get a cut off the bill. Or just let Aris service you, you don't need the lounge chair guys. I just happen to know a few of them, so I let one of them serve me (sometimes) and tip them.
Baileys is top of the chart because it is consistency. Their pizza is my personal favorite follwed by their sea bass. Sinatras was a good option but I think he is under financial stress and the quality of product has slipped. He is looking for a partner never a good thing. Flip Flop is good a option for a quicky. I have not fouund anything on the beach that I trust. For me sanititaion is a issue. Hand washing, keeping produce stable are concerns. The beach could have a renasaiance with day time action moving there. There is nowhere else to go for day time fun but the beach. When the girls figure that out it could be a big time win for everyone.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2415254]That would be Sinatra's, on Pedro, on your left before you turn down to the beach. Lots of flags!
Steve has specials on lobster and steak, 2 for 1 price Wednesdays and Saturdays. Decent food, decent price, but much better service than Baileys. He's from my home town in the U. K.
At night he sings, too! Lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Confiable;2415331]I like Bailey's for certain foods. That goes for a lot of restaurants in Sosua. Everyone has their favorites for whatever reason and there are a lot of them to choose from. Explore and make your own conclusions.[/QUOTE]Likewise. Baileys has a few items on the menu I like. One I get from time to time is a breaded fish sandwich on a long bun. Comes with lettuce, tomato and onion with tartar sauce. Fries comes with it, I think? I also like Bailey's pizza.
Someone said their salad bar is a joke, and I concur. The cost of beverages there can run the bill up significantly. I'm a stickler against 80 to 120 peso juice or soft drinks that come with a glass full of ice. You get 3 good sips and you are done.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2415443]Likewise. Baileys has a few items on the menu I like. One I get from time to time is a breaded fish sandwich on a long bun. Comes with lettuce, tomato and onion with tartar sauce. Fries comes with it, I think? I also like Bailey's pizza.
Someone said their salad bar is a joke, and I concur. The cost of beverages there can run the bill up significantly. I'm a stickler against 80 to 120 peso juice or soft drinks that come with a glass full of ice. You get 3 good sips and you are done.[/QUOTE]The red elefante just pass the mamajuana bar is a fav. Good food and prices, very clean, one of the owners always present. Healthy options if you stay away from the pasta. Europa has a good kitchen. New cafe has a good breakfast. On the beach tree house has good food and great prices. Fast Freddie at 164 is also really good. Mofongo on the beach is good and clean. The german place just pass bourbon is always good. I pretty much stick to those places. Peace.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2415443]Likewise. Baileys has a few items on the menu I like. One I get from time to time is a breaded fish sandwich on a long bun. Comes with lettuce, tomato and onion with tartar sauce. Fries comes with it, I think? I also like Bailey's pizza.
Someone said their salad bar is a joke, and I concur. The cost of beverages there can run the bill up significantly. I'm a stickler against 80 to 120 peso juice or soft drinks that come with a glass full of ice. You get 3 good sips and you are done.[/QUOTE]I agree with the fish sandwich and also the pizza for me.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2415434]Yeah I should have added that tidbit of info. The restaurants I listed are all places I'd get a fish meal from specifically.[/QUOTE]Very helpful. Thanks much!
I am a fish person and one of my pet peeve going to an island is not finding fresh fish that is cooked right on the beach, typically over a charcoal fire. In Sosua, I have not found a good fish place so far so thanks again. That you know, can they do anything else other than frying. I am thinking steamed fish in perhaps a garlic sauce or the Creole kind. The problem with frying is that the freshness cannot be discerned even though if the fish is fresh, it should have a taste and a flavor.
And on that note, is Aris, the best bet among the listed?
I used to rent cars from something called Nelly which has gone terribly down the hill. I never bought insurance (my credit card has plenty) but the last time the suckers doubled down on that and I said no to the rental and got an Uber.
Question to those that rent regularly (at Santiago in particular): which is a reliable and not too pricey car rental company for you folks?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2415700]Very helpful. Thanks much!
I am a fish person and one of my pet peeve going to an island is not finding fresh fish that is cooked right on the beach, typically over a charcoal fire. In Sosua, I have not found a good fish place so far so thanks again. That you know, can they do anything else other than frying. I am thinking steamed fish in perhaps a garlic sauce or the Creole kind. The problem with frying is that the freshness cannot be discerned even though if the fish is fresh, it should have a taste and a flavor.
And on that note, is Aris, the best bet among the listed?[/QUOTE]Aris #64, Mofongo King #74, and Jorge Mayra restaurant #64 are all on the same level IMO as far as the taste of their cooked fish. I lean towards Aris because I like the presentation and weve had a business relationship for awhile. Plus I always bring my friends there to dine, and he appreciates that. Sometimes he'll arrange for me to get 2 for one when they have small fish under 1 lb. Not often, but it happens.
The salads are usually a real green salad, not just shredded cabbage. So the other day that I mentioned here, we each had a 1 lb fish, yellow rice (no beans), a separate plate of steamed veggies, and a small green salad on the plate with the fish. So that's 4 items.
Most of the OTHER restaurants provide only 3. The fish of course, and your choice of two items. 1. Rice (yellow or white w / beans or not) 2. Partial green salad (often shredded cabbage mostly), 3. French fries, or 4. Veggies. Two of those listed. So yeah I rate Aris high on the list. The food from the kitchen is consistent, and Aris corrects errors if any. He's a 40 something Dominican., that also speaks perfect English. His aunt works there too. And a couple of wait staff.
Yesterday the same buddies of mine had red snapper at The Tree House #112. One said Aris was better. The other said he liked TTH red snapper a little more. He let me taste it. I agreed it tasted good. Not necessarily better. But I noted that it seemed more flavorful because it was a little more salty. He admitted that may have been what made the fish appear to be better for him. He said he is a salt junky.
Aris fish is not bland in the least. It's flavorful. But it gives you options in case you want to enhance the flavor with a dash of hot sauce, melted butter (which they gave us upon request) or even that garlic sauce. Or nothing at all. The fish tastes delicious without adding anything.
With any of those restaurants. The ones I mentioned or any others, it's best to ask them to show you the fish they intend to cook for you. My "salt loving friend" was charged only 500 pesos (usually it costs 650 pesos for a 1 lb) at TTH for that red snapper. They brought the fish out, and brought it to his attention that it was under 1 lb. If you don't look at the fish before hand, a person may get charged the regular price as if the fish was 1 lb.
When Aris offers me the 2 for one, I don't bother to look at the fish. In fact, I never look at the fish before hand. With Aris, I'm usually good. I do recommend any new customers let Aris show you the fish before cooking it. And lastly, Aris he's on whatsapp. He offers delivery in the area, which I think adds 60 to 100 pesos to the bill. If one is inclined they can give the driver a small propina, although Aris has the driver covered already.
Aris is almost never closed, even most holidays. So on one of those rainy days, and a person cant come out to the beach, they can still have a fish meal delivered to their hotel/apt. Just allow sufficient time. It aint coming in 20 minutes. Be mindful for every 1/2 lb above the 1 lb, add 300 pesos to your fish meal. For instance, a 1 1/2 lb fish meal will be 900 pesos, not the usual 600 pesos for a 1lb fish meal. 2lb fish will be 1200 pesos. Plus the standard 10% service charge.
While the thread is consumed with food, I can only remember my favorite places to eat!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2415700]Very helpful. Thanks much!
That you know, can they do anything else other than frying. I am thinking steamed fish in perhaps a garlic sauce or the Creole kind?[/QUOTE]I missed this part. Every restaurant I mentioned can and does grill your fish. Does not have to be fried. What I like about these restaurants, their fish when it's fried does not appear greasy. The fish is usually tender under the skin. You won't feel guilty because it's fried. You can choose a variety of other entrees on their menus.
Lobster, shrimp, chicken dishes, pasta, soups, burgers, wings. I guess pork and beef items too, I just don't pay attention to those two items.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2415501]The red elefante just pass the mamajuana bar is a fav. Good food and prices, very clean, one of the owners always present. [/QUOTE]Red Elefante and the Mamajuana Bar. Help me find both places? I probably passed them both about 100 times, just didn't know they were there.
Never mind, I think I found it. Above the restaurant and the menu board posted, there is a picture of a red elephant. The name of the restaurant says Elefante Rosso. Rosso is "Red" in Italian. So if anybody is looking for the words Red Elefante you wont see that. Look for Elefante Rosso and the small picture of the red elephant above the restaurant and menu board. Bro I used to go there all of the time. I just fell off.
I guess it's owned by the Italian lady with her Dominican husband/boyfriend? They cook, but also have cooks ( not sure if any are related to her? ).
It's located on Pedro Clisante. Jolly Roger and Matteo Seaside ( formerly Brittania ) restaurants are on the other side of the street. it has sidewalk seating and seating inside. Not a very big place, but very popular.
I love my almost daily walk thru town to the beach.
Lots of holas, smiles and the odd hug!
Yesterday an expat buddy joined me on my walk!
Turns out he knew more folks around town than I did! So he chose the lunch place on the beach.
It was a local holy day, so although there were lots of people on the beach, it was peaceful with no loud music blasting everywhere.
His two pretty servers came over to sit with us between customers, for a vodka cooler and a coke. The young server at the next shack caught my eye, and then she never stopped looking back. OK!
Chica's strolled by, smiling.
Here we were, two old guys having fun with young beauties with real jobs drinking cold beer on a tropical beach in the middle of a Northern winter!
Doesn't get better than this!
A young American friend of my buddy came over to join us, rich, polite, good looking, does not need a job, just his sports, and looks like he won life's lottery, Lol
But he was complaining that his local girl was giving him a hard time.
I've heard it all before, which is why I've always said it's the young guys who have the most trouble with DR chicas. They are normal, fall in love and expect the same. Goes for older guys with big egos, too! Lol
Old guys like us are only looking to have a little fun for a while, with no complications.
It was a good day, and picked up 3 new potentials, if I could ever find time to follow up!
Life is good!
(The food? We forgot all about it!, Lol)
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2415804]While the thread is consumed with food, I can only remember my favorite places to eat![/QUOTE]Jejeje! Thanks Tom J, for reminding me what the thread is for, and good to see your resurrection on the main theme, even when I happen to know that you are a foodie yourself, what with the Guinea pig in Colombia.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2415804]While the thread is consumed with food, I can only remember my favorite places to eat![/QUOTE]Hamburger!
Big sign out front of Rumbas / Kings "NOW OPEN". The owner of Blue Ice told me that she will be open before Superbowl and that Classicos in fact will be open tomorrow. We'll see, I'll believe it when I see it.
Also saw 3 chicas inside Kings. 2 together in the open area. And one by herself trying to talk to guys posted up out front.
Pranitium, Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street and Blue Ice, nothing going on. Closure signs still posted. It's now wait and see.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2415804]While the thread is consumed with food, I can only remember my favorite places to eat![/QUOTE]Besides being my favorite, absolutely the best tasting!
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2415801]Aris #64, Mofongo King #74, and Jorge Mayra restaurant #64 are all on the same level IMO as far as the taste of their cooked fish.[/QUOTE]Very informative; I am going to try on my next visit.
Much appreciated.
The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant on the beach in Cabarete. Its outstanding and affordable.
Sorry I don't have the name.
Good day Gents, I'm making my way back to Sosua next week, first time in two years.
Where is the best exchange rate you guys have seen? And what are they giving in recent days?
Also where anyone has a Viagra spot in town?
I'm excited to head back, despite the changes, I have no doubts there is still a lot of fun to be had!
The political circus continues.
The pressure to open up for the rest of high season, starting off with SuperBowl weekend continues.
Good tourist money is being wasted!
They promised that closed "restaurants" on Pedro could re-open if they behaved like restaurants and not hooker joints.
So we have King's (old Rumba) given permission by a highly placed official to re-open Wednesday morning, which they did! But then the Mayor came out and closed it up because they hadn't been issued the proper Official Notice to post on the door, so she ordered it closed last night! Lol. The Official Notice was supposed to be delivered this afternoon so they could re-open at 4 pm today. Hopefully it arrived in time.
El Flo got their Official Notice to re-open so they were good to go today, but the guy not could move his computers back in and set up on time.
Such is the state of the union here, but as I said before, they want that high season money coming back in, before it's too late!
It could be almost business as usual for Superbowl, with Classico open again, but a couple of bar lessees already walked away from the shit after the last closings, and the building owners are scrambling to get new lessees in place. But with the new clubs opening up town, and new local bars discoverd, the choices may actually improve. Some may not go back to the old sweatshop places!
As I also said, the situation won't really settle down until after the February election, when we'll all find out who's actually in charge!
In the meantime folks are still finding ways to have a good time here.
Life goes on!
[QUOTE=Adinga;2416444]The former chef from the New Garden has his own Italian restaurant on the beach in Cabarete. Its outstanding and affordable.
Sorry I don't have the name.[/QUOTE]It is called: Beach Side Italian Restaurant Cabarete, part of the Viva Wyndham set up.
As a newbie to Sosua I can say that there is enough info in the threads already for newbies to get their feet wet. That's not to say you might not have a poor experience. But that is how we learn. I've had a few poor experiences already here but mostly because I was doing "quick picks" off the street.
I've also been to anhvee twice. Picked a Dominican both times. (not on purpose. Just worked out that way) Both asked for 3,000 pesos for short time. One only offered an hour for that. The other I can't remember if it was 1 or 2 hours. One girl was about a 7 to 7.5. The other was an 8 to me. I offered both girls 2,500 and they both accepted. Both experiences were pretty good but nothing outstanding. But I think that is somewhat the nature of a first time fuck during a one hour session for a newbie. Which could be anywhere not just the. Are.
A lot of these girls look hot from 15 to 20 feet away and when I get within 5 feet I see that they are maybe 7 or less. I don't grade inflate. And of course everybody taste varies! As a newbie I find it a bit challenging to "pre qualify" them before making a final deal. I'm sure that is part art and part science.
All girls so far that I have been with have not been willing to do BBBJ only CBJ. So, will see how it goes. May do one more pick off the street. Some of those Haitian girls looking pretty hot from 20 feet away. LOL.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2417337]As a newbie to Sosua - Both asked for 3,000 pesos for short time. One only offered an hour for that. The other I can't remember if it was 1 or 2 hours. One girl was about a 7 to 7.5. The other was an 8 to me. I offered both girls 2,500 and they both accepted.
Some of those Haitian girls looking pretty hot from 20 feet away. LOL.[/QUOTE]Man sounds like you're getting the hang of it. A little homework pays off.
If you don't establish BBBJ at the very beginning don't expect to Chica to throw it in extra. The reason she establish a time with you is because she's not trying to give me more than what you agreed on.
Be careful with those Haitians. Especially if you're Caucasian. I heard chocolate is Addictive.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2416668]They promised that closed "restaurants" on Pedro could re-open if they behaved like restaurants and not hooker joints.[/QUOTE]Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1[/URL]
Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.
Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.
The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2417564]Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1[/URL]
Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.
Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.
The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.[/QUOTE]Willie appears to have FAR more support than illiana.
The only problem is. Santo Domingo wants her in office doing what she is doing. This came from the outgoing president, she didn't do all this alone or without support. So we'll see who really runs things, the people, or the power. Stay tuned folks! Peace.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2417564]Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.[/QUOTE]So the owners of these bars are locals that are allowed to vote? And if they are, there are what? all of 6 bars that had to close? So 6 votes are going to swing the polls the other way?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417648]So the owners of these bars are locals that are allowed to vote? And if they are, there are what? all of 6 bars that had to close? So 6 votes are going to swing the polls the other way?[/QUOTE]My friend, I know you're a lot smarter than that comment. Let's take a look at what happened in November 2019:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5734&article=1[/URL]
As the article points out, closing the bars doesn't affect only the owners. It also affects maintenance staff, security staff, cleaning staff, taxi / motoconcho staff, fashion stores, beauty / massage salons, and as you and I both know, the WGs. In my opinion, Mayor Ilana Neumann and her ilk were so rattled by the protest that they cooked this up only 24 hours later:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5736&article=1[/URL]
You know as well as I do that closing the bars and keeping them closed affects hundreds of people, not just 6. And with the Mayoral election being between only Ilana Neumann and Wily Olivences, hundreds of votes can easily be the deciding factor between who wins and who loses.
The question at this point is, are the people of Sosua happy with Neumann and her policies, or are they fed up and ready for a change? If they're happy and motivated to vote, you can expect Neumann to win. If they're fed up and motivated to vote, you can expect Olivences to win. And as I said in my original comment:
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2417564]What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.[/QUOTE]That's my two cents. Hopefully, you won't think I was trying to troll or insult you. There's already enough of that on ISG and I try not to add to it.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2417564]Very respectfully, there's only one reason why all of the closed bars are suddenly being allowed to reopen:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1[/URL]
Keep the bars closed when all of that Superbowl money is coming into town, and you send a lot of angry people to the polls. Allow the bars to reopen, with the owners making that Superbowl money, and a lot less people will be inclined to go to the polls and vote the current politicians out of office.
Personally, I think Sosua Mayor Ilana Neumann is finished. She only got 41 or 42 percent of the vote the last time the Mayoral election was held a couple of years ago, but won because she got the most votes out of the 4 or 5 candidates who ran for Mayor. Now, Mayor Neumann is only up against Wily Olivences, who got the second most votes the last time the Mayoral election was held.
The people of Sosua have a choice: Either stay with Mayor Neumann's shit show, or go with someone who might actually inject renewed life into a failing tourist town. What will the people decide? We will know in a little over two weeks.[/QUOTE]No real argument there.
It is a political circus that sees old Rumba opening one day, closed that same evening, reopened in the morning and, as of yesterday, closed again, LOL.
I've also pointed out a couple of times in recent posts, (see below) that some resolution to the mixed up policy should occur after the February election.
My reports on bar closings and reopenings, comes directly from observation on the ground.
My understanding of why, and what leverage is being used politically on the closed businesses comes first hand from a major player in the business (who shall be nameless) and who has been attending these meetings for a couple of years now. The reference to the demand that they operate as "restaurants" only, is part of the ongoing negotiations to clean up the downtown and the promises that were made to the bar owners!
Take it or leave it!
Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.
This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.
But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.
Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.
I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.
I was there 2 weeks ago and viewed 1st hand the new setup. I thought it was a great setup. Everyone had what they wanted. The streets were not over flowing with putas. Couples and families could walk the streets. The establishments that catered to Europeans were doing a brisk business and I was having a ball on the other end of town. I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2417671]Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.
This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.
But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.
Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.
I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2417677]I was there 2 weeks ago and viewed 1st hand the new setup. I thought it was a great setup. Everyone had what they wanted. The streets were not over flowing with putas. Couples and families could walk the streets. The establishments that catered to Europeans were doing a brisk business and I was having a ball on the other end of town. I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.[/QUOTE]It's purely cosmetic at this point. The hookers are still around, just dispersed over a wider area. But Sosua is not that big so they are all still relatively close to your hotel.
The hardcore hookers are still here, some of whom I have known for 10 years. It's still easy to pick up a chica, or even a SUV load to party with. Smart phones have replaced the "stroll".
As long as prostitution is legal in Sosua, and solicitation is not a crime, and mongers (the real problem) and their money, are welcomed, the party will continue.
Another big test is here SuperBowl weekend. Ahnvee is promising a party to end all parties, sounds like orgy central.
We'll see if it gets shut down, at some point.
Interesting, but still fun times for the punters!
[QUOTE=Sammon;2417671]Whatever the outcome of the election Sosua I believe will never be the same. It was essentially a brothel town to start with many brothels all over the place. Then it became kind of different with bars and discoes. Still the girls came hoping to make money. Street walkers and beach walkers during daytime plied their trade.
This does not distract the family tourists who tend to ignore everything. In Thailand prostitution and go go bars are in your face wherever you go. Bars are full of girls even on islands plying their trade. Did not affect the tourism at all and in fact increasing.
But at the same time in Sosua once the changes take place it is very hard to come back to previous time. All businesses are scared and will not invest. Maintenance of bars and hotels will not take place. Everybody will just try to survive.
Almost every town has a Main Street where everything happens and people feel comfortable in that area. Moving to separate entertainment area will not entice people to go there.
I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.[/QUOTE]I agree that it will never be the same. Clearly they want it quiet and more discreet. I'm ok with that. I can clearly see their point.
I just don't want to much separation. The Europeans are not the only people who enjoy a nice meal and glass of wine in a quiet downtown. Downtown should be for everyone who can relax, move respectfully and enjoy it. Peace.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2417677] I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself Olski. I hear many complaints from guys who went there recently. One Sue regular told me he started coming to Boca Chica's just because it's one of the only place left you can sit enjoy a beer and watch an active stroll.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2417764]I agree that it will never be the same. Clearly they want it quiet and more discreet. I'm ok with that. I can clearly see their point.
I just don't want to much separation. The Europeans are not the only people who enjoy a nice meal and glass of wine in a quiet downtown. Downtown should be for everyone who can relax, move respectfully and enjoy it. Peace.[/QUOTE]I disagree. It will pretty much remain a party town dependent on legal prostitution for it's economy.
There are many venues, in DR and all over the Caribbean, that provide a quiet and discreet vacation, and like minded folks are flocking there, not Sosua!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2417677]I hope the mayor wins because her solution works for me and for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Well, very respectfully to you, apparently it didn't work for the owner of Rocky's. This was posted last night in the "The Future of Sosua" thread over on the DR1 website:
"Hi folks,
I am very sorry to report that Rocky's Rock and Blues Bar will be closing for good as of the evening of January 31st. What has been happening in Sosua has sent 95 percent of our regular clientele to greener pastures, namely, Colombia.
Milka and I have had an incredible run thanks to all of the support from everyone and beyond but we have had enough.
Please come by Friday, January 31st for our every last "All you can Eat" BBQ and say goodbye to old friends and new.
I am officially retired collecting 2 pensions from Canada so Milka, Daenerys and I will be just fine.
It has been an incredible experience meeting all of you and I'll still be around Sosua, wanting to spend time with all of you and enjoying the company of real friends.
Thank you all for an incredible 11 years at Rocky's and take care.
Rick".
I think I remember reading on the same website, though, that Rocky's owner / management was involved in a legal dispute, which might explain the closure. Someone please correct me, if I'm wrong about that statement.
Rumbas is open again, for how long though??
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2417925]Rumbas is open again, for how long though??[/QUOTE]That is a good question. I was there last night and it was dead. Very few females walking by the place. The police are patroling the area frequently. Starting at Classico and working your way back to Rumba, there are only three bars open and that includes rumba). The girls are congregating at the Ahnvee and the bars near the resort. The one bar across from the Ahnvee, I think it's called NYC was decent. Mostly a dominican crowd, the music, and the talent level was nice but be careful they tried to pad my bill. I was there on a Sunday night.
COURT ORDERS NATIONAL POLICE TO REFUSE FROM DISTURBING ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES OF HOTEL BAR CENTRAL DE SOSÚA
PUERTO PLATA.- The Judge President of the Civil and Commercial Court of the Puerto Plata Judicial District, Judge Nassín Eduardo Ovalle Estévez, by sentence, ordered the commander of the Police in the municipality Sosúa, Colonel Anicasio Guillen Guzmán, to refrain from disturbing the development of the commercial activities of the Hotel Restaurante Central located in Pedro Clisante street of that demarcation.
Judge Ovalle's ruling occurs in response to a remedy for preventive protection, filed by the legal representative of the Central Hotel, Mr. Manuel Danilo Reyes Marmolejos, who revealed that he saw the need to act legally after the aforementioned company was closed arbitrarily by the National Police, in the absence of a court order and without an express order from the Public Ministry for the use of public force, which occurred last November.
As explained by Mr. Reyes Marmolejos, the court ruled in favor of his client, understanding that one of the fundamental roles of the National Police, is to ensure compliance with laws in the country, without incurring failures that affect the law of the natural and legal persons in the Dominican Republic.
During the month of November, several institutions deployed an extensive operation to close bars and restaurants on Pedro Clisante Street in the municipality of Sosúa.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B74cYoAgKld/?igshid=167sohpb5tiy3
Puerto Plata Times
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2417925]Rumbas is open again, for how long though??[/QUOTE]Damn bro where you been? Rumbas closed years ago. The owner of Rumbas got deported. Some dude opened a restaurant in that space called Kings or something like that.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2417671]...............I remember here in USA there were many many strip bars all over the place. Slowly it was curtailed and restricted to zoning to remote places. Initially all moved but very few survived. Nowadays you will be hard pressed to find a decent one. I liked it when they brought in beautiful Russian girls.[/QUOTE]P4P is changing around the world. There are so many places I used to have great mongering experiences in that are no more, for example, ChangPing in China, Geylang in Singapore, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Rio is not what it used to be. My best mongering of all time was in NYC in the '70's and '80's. My best mongering now is in FKKs in Germany and am spending my first winter in Germany just for that. Maxing my experience before change comes.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2418172]Damn bro where you been? Rumbas closed years ago. The owner of Rumbas got deported. Some dude opened a restaurant in that space called Kings or something like that.[/QUOTE]Yes it is called kings but the dominicans still refer to it as rumbas for some reason.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2418172]Damn bro where you been? Rumbas closed years ago. The owner of Rumbas got deported. Some dude opened a restaurant in that space called Kings or something like that.[/QUOTE]Where have I been? I have been living in Sosua six months out of the year for the past seven years and have my ear very well glued to the ground here. I am very much aware that "Rumba's" is now Kings but 95% of mongers and residents here alike still refer to it as "Rumba's" so put that in your pipe and smoke it señior. Guys like you have turned this forum into nothing but a shit show. Peace out, I'm going to head over to Rumba's and order up a grande.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2418232]Yes it is called kings but the dominicans still refer to it as rumbas for some reason.[/QUOTE]Not just Dominicans, I hang out with mongers every single day on Pedro Clisante and NOBODY calls it Kings, nobody. But whatever, I've had enough of this forum, buh bye.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2418236]Not just Dominicans, I hang out with mongers every single day on Pedro Clisante and NOBODY calls it Kings, nobody. But whatever, I've had enough of this forum, buh bye.[/QUOTE]Just came back 1/6 from a 2 week trip. NOONE calls it Kings! LMAO! Everyone still calls it Rumbas. They call the mora mal location new rumba. LOL.
Similar to how old times called the Latin latinos. Peace.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2418236]Not just Dominicans, I hang out with mongers every single day on Pedro Clisante and NOBODY calls it Kings, nobody. But whatever, I've had enough of this forum, buh bye.[/QUOTE]OK, I am here solo, so I don't know what the mongers call it. But anyway, don't let some people get you unraveled. Life is to short. Enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2418282]OK, I am here solo, so I don't know what the mongers call it. But anyway, don't let some people get you unraveled. Life is to short. Enjoy it.[/QUOTE]These changes in Sosua really have some dudes shook. Can imagine it's tough for OGs that remember the golden era.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2418236]Not just Dominicans, I hang out with mongers every single day on Pedro Clisante and NOBODY calls it Kings, nobody. But whatever, I've had enough of this forum, buh bye.[/QUOTE]There's an old saying, Manny, "Illegitimi non carborundum"! LOL.
For those of us who live here and know Sosua well, we are aware that locals:.
A. Don't speak formal Spanish.
Arguments and misunderstandings over language, are a waste of time.
B. Do not understand the Western concept of Name, Number, Street, Town.
They go by landmarks, designated by their own local usage. Rumba is always at the main corner, no matter what it is called today. So-called New Rumba, is still referred to as Morua Mai, El Flo is still what they call the various names for Premium Bar, and Classico is how they refer to Club 59 Disco.
Even La Passion, a burnt out hulk, now occupied by Hatian squatters, is still a known destination of moto drivers, and they'll drop you off at that corner. The Texaco station will always be a landmark, no matter if it changes name tomorrow. don't ask them to take you to Mateo's Seaside bar, because it will always be Britannia Pub. Or Rehab on the beach. You'll have more luck with Scandinava bar. Longest occupation rules!
C. They tolerate, but have no real respect for mongers. Only their dinero!
They generally consider mutual time spent with mongers, even long and mutually groping conversations as working time, and expect something in return. They consider "fist bumps" and handshakes from strangers as an express desire to be friends.
D. They operate under a different economy than foreigners.
Those who expect that when a restaurant tab says "propina included", that's what it means. Servers rarely, if ever, get to share that!
E. Hoes consider everything they do with a john, in addition to lying there and letting you pound their ass for a designated period of time is worthy of a propina. Even sitting with you in your favorite restaurant over a candlelit dinner when they are starving, Lol. They'd often prefer to be somewhere else!
Forget the enthusiastic squeals, and writhing, "Si mas papi", it is not your sexual prowess they are impressed by. Lol.
F. Renting a car is mostly a scam game! Nothing like the TV commercials at home.
Damage assessment is in the eye of the beholder, CC insurance is often not recognized or disputed, proper maintenance is rare and can lead to breakdown, and deposits are withheld in disputes, you are an invitation to moto accident set ups, and cop check point scams.
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So that's how DR works for the average, and newbie, monger, and yes, they are street smart experts at psychology, and can size up a non resident in a New York Minute!
Now you can argue about who is right and who is wrong forever, and stand on your own "foreign" (to them), principles, but you'll be doing that all your trip, at the expense of your peaceful and harmonious, well earned, vacation.
But some mongers love these constant challenges and confrontations to their sense of right, it pumps up their jaded adrenaline, and gives them a high! As the endless stream of same old, same old, stories of rip offs, and attempted rip offs posted here attest to. I hear it all the time from some guys here who just seem to have a Charly Brown dark cloud that seems to follow them around! Lol
These folks should be avoided like the plague for a peaceful, harmonious vacation.
I do that and in 10 years of visiting and living here I can't say I have ever been ripped off, once!
My 4 year regular has to be schooled once in a while, that my dinero is limited, by my budget, and my inclination, and that I'm not an ATM machine. Sometimes I have to send her home for to make that point. It used to be hard to do that when they give you everything they have got to give, but reality must prevail or you join the ranks of the bitterly disappointed, and even controlled.
My two cents for a happy and satisfying visit!
I love my life here with the locals.
But that's because I understand them well, live in their culture, and not my own!
Damn good perspective Oakie! My overall perspective of dealing with Dominicans are in tune along those same lines you mentioned.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2418420]There's an old saying, Manny, "Illegitimi non carborundum"! LOL.
For those of us who live here and know Sosua well, we are aware that locals:.
A. Don't speak formal Spanish.
Arguments and misunderstandings over language, are a waste of time.
B. Do not understand the Western concept of Name, Number, Street, Town.
They go by landmarks, designated by their own local usage. Rumba is always at the main corner, no matter what it is called today. So-called New Rumba, is still referred to as Morua Mai, El Flo is still what they call the various names for Premium Bar, and Classico is how they refer to Club 59 Disco.
Even La Passion, a burnt out hulk, now occupied by Hatian squatters, is still a known destination of moto drivers, and they'll drop you off at that corner. The Texaco station will always be a landmark, no matter if it changes name tomorrow. don't ask them to take you to Mateo's Seaside bar, because it will always be Britannia Pub. Or Rehab on the beach. You'll have more luck with Scandinava bar. Longest occupation rules!
C. They tolerate, but have no real respect for mongers. Only their dinero!
They generally consider mutual time spent with mongers, even long and mutually groping conversations as working time, and expect something in return. They consider "fist bumps" and handshakes from strangers as an express desire to be friends.
D. They operate under a different economy than foreigners.
Those who expect that when a restaurant tab says "propina included", that's what it means. Servers rarely, if ever, get to share that!
E. Hoes consider everything they do with a john, in addition to lying there and letting you pound their ass for a designated period of time is worthy of a propina. Even sitting with you in your favorite restaurant over a candlelit dinner when they are starving, Lol. They'd often prefer to be somewhere else!
Forget the enthusiastic squeals, and writhing, "Si mas papi", it is not your sexual prowess they are impressed by. Lol.
F. Renting a car is mostly a scam game! Nothing like the TV commercials at home.
Damage assessment is in the eye of the beholder, CC insurance is often not recognized or disputed, proper maintenance is rare and can lead to breakdown, and deposits are withheld in disputes, you are an invitation to moto accident set ups, and cop check point scams.
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So that's how DR works for the average, and newbie, monger, and yes, they are street smart experts at psychology, and can size up a non resident in a New York Minute!
Now you can argue about who is right and who is wrong forever, and stand on your own "foreign" (to them), principles, but you'll be doing that all your trip, at the expense of your peaceful and harmonious, well earned, vacation.
But some mongers love these constant challenges and confrontations to their sense of right, it pumps up their jaded adrenaline, and gives them a high! As the endless stream of same old, same old, stories of rip offs, and attempted rip offs posted here attest to. I hear it all the time from some guys here who just seem to have a Charly Brown dark cloud that seems to follow them around! Lol
These folks should be avoided like the plague for a peaceful, harmonious vacation.
I do that and in 10 years of visiting and living here I can't say I have ever been ripped off, once!
My 4 year regular has to be schooled once in a while, that my dinero is limited, by my budget, and my inclination, and that I'm not an ATM machine. Sometimes I have to send her home for to make that point. It used to be hard to do that when they give you everything they have got to give, but reality must prevail or you join the ranks of the bitterly disappointed, and even controlled.
My two cents for a happy and satisfying visit!
I love my life here with the locals.
But that's because I understand them well, live in their culture, and not my own![/QUOTE]True, humorous and very well written! You are the jedi master! Code name. Obi won Oakie!!
Rumba Bar is history. No matter if folks still want to refer to that space as "Rumba. " Those of us who partied in Rumba from the beginning know what time it is. Rumbas, CMP, Passions, D'Latin ain't coming back. Even if you call the Chinese store D'Latin or whatever, it ain't coming back LOL.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2418474]Rumba Bar is history. No matter if folks still want to refer to that space as "Rumba. " Those of us who partied in Rumba from the beginning know what time it is. Rumbas, CMP, Passions, D'Latin ain't coming back. Even if you call the Chinese store D'Latin or whatever, it ain't coming back LOL.[/QUOTE]Man can someone else please give me an easy lie. The hard truth is sometimes difficult to swallow.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2418488]Man can someone else please give me an easy lie. The hard truth is sometimes difficult to swallow.[/QUOTE]Same as people in the Rio thread keep bringing up Help Disco 10 years after its demise. The shit is NOT coming back.
Perfect way to keep people ignorant though. If you still want to call it El Flow, then I will go along and act like it is El Flow. Nevermind correcting someone and teaching them better. That is how you get a country and a world full of dummies. (The movie Idiocracy comes to mind.) But as long as your vacation runs smoothly, fuck it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2418500]Same as people in the Rio thread keep bringing up Help Disco 10 years after its demise. The shit is NOT coming back.
Perfect way to keep people ignorant though. If you still want to call it El Flow, then I will go along and act like it is El Flow. Nevermind correcting someone and teaching them better. That is how you get a country and a world full of dummies. (The movie Idiocracy comes to mind.) But as long as your vacation runs smoothly, fuck it.[/QUOTE]Just drove by cassicos with the chain on the door and the sad site on the strip. A lot of people out of jobs becuase of what? This is a e trickle down a effect. From the workers inside the clubs / bars / restuarants to the motorcyclist, to the family memebers and etc, I don't see how tourist from other countries making a positive impact. I don't see it. I have friends who still go to Rio and they tell me Mia Pataca hasn't been the same since Help closed, hoe beach, and surronding business. But regardless you will all ways find someone who will try and put a positve spin on a negative situation to fit their arguement. Of course sosua is not the same and the people from the all inclusive hasn't made a difference from my perspective and from the dominicians on the ground. I didn't come to sosua to see a eldelry white women wearing an outfit for a teenager. Walking down the strip like she some hot chick. Take your ass back to Canada / european country. The foriegners are messing up the game in sosua.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2418469]True, humorous and very well written! You are the jedi master! Code name. Obi won Oakie!![/QUOTE]LOL.
A shout out to you, and Mr Gogo, who introduced me to Susua 10 years ago, and showed me how to navigate this fucked up paradise!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2418786]LOL.
A shout out to you, and Mr Gogo, who introduced me to Susua 10 years ago, and showed me how to navigate this fucked up paradise![/QUOTE]I read your post 3 times because it hit me to the soul. You showed the essence of living in the Dominican Republic. Your humor is Classic Oakie.
Its only sex and I don't disrespect any of the girls unless they try to rip me off.
Very few of us really know the daily hardships that the girls are confronted with.
A little kindness goes along way in the DR.
A lot of crazy stuff still going on here, Superbowl weekend.
The boys are back in town, and so are the chicas, but now, instead of everybody on main street, the parties have moved to different locations around town, hotels, Ahnvee, smaller bars.
SW central (such as it is) runs now from the main corner up Pedro a little, and from the main corner up to NG. And there's a traffic jam in that area as the boys drive by to pick up a car load to go. And there's also the beach, which was active.
In spite of my personal reservation about renting cars in Sosua, it does seem to be the best way for a group to get around to the different parties, and pick up chicas. (As long as you let someone else drive. LOL).
The cops seem to have disappeared from the streets, but see below.
I walked past old rumba and bar central yesterday, and the boys were posted up watching the chicas go by but nowhere near the numbers of last year at this time. I carried on up to my local to meet a buddy, and he came in just after me and told me the cops showed up and had just closed up rumba, and bar central again. Didn't believe him (I was just there) until another buddy came in and confirmed. WTF? 4 or 5 times in 5 days? He explains shit about competing Official Orders, Court Injunctions, Cop raids, and Mayor's personal actions.
Completely fucked up, but I'm betting they'll be opened tomorrow again. Maybe even classico might be unchained in time. We'll see!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2418773]Lol, GM.
We have not always agreed in the past, but let me return the compliment!
Allow me to quote something you just said in another forum about the local culture, which is also right on.
""I tried to explain to them yes there are SW all over the country. There are also women who wouldn't dare sell their body on the streets to strangers, but if they meet and / or are introduce to man who is interested in them, they can be enticed with money, cellphone, hair Or other commodities for the exchange of sexual favors. These Hoes don't consider themselves prostitutes. Dominican culture somewhat bolsters their outlook of it not being prostitution. Smart Chicas try to keep your money circulating within their own circle of friends and family members. Some vets have been introduced to chicas through their own mothers or grandmothers. They don't see it as prostituting their love ones. ".[/QUOTE]I learned from my many travels to Rio, it's similar. Sosua is like the "Golden Triangle" of Copacabana. Many fellas were stuck and caught up with in Copa like they are in Sosua. Now that the Meia Pataca and Help are gone, so are the girls on hoe beach, and many dudes took Rio out of their rotation. For those of us who didn't rely on the Golden Triangle for our vacation in Rio, we still can go and leave there with smiles on our faces and leave it all there. I didn't do the boat parties, apartment parties, the frat parties, I didn't do Help, and I didn't do groups. If I saw you there then we greet, eat, and drink a chope. We left the dumb shit to the dumb drama to the fellas who go overseas to act like they are in the states. Super Bowl?
Again, Super Bowl! I do not want to knock it, but why go all the way to Sosua to watch the damn Super Bowl so the locals can exploit you! And that's what it is about, exploitation. The Sosuans are not stupid. The government and police are smart enough to have their own intelligence to know what they are doing. Grant it, they may be f'd up with urban planning and business sense, but believe me that they have a strong intelligence and read all the sex boards and watch all the youtube videos about Sosua. So who are we fooling. They know. And after the Cuba Dave BS he published in the Miami New Times in 2013, they know. And now there are many new cats who are youtubers giving up info like hoes on Pedro Clisante. Why can't fellas shut the f--k up? The message about the old Sosua caused the original Rhumbas, Passions, and CPM to close. All the white catering businesses do not have police in front but all the Super Bowl activity this weekend is on the radar.
The police will soon focus on BS enforcement, like petty traffic citations, and with that will come bribes. You see what's happening with the motoconcho checkpoints and impounds of bike. The police will impound rental cars and give citations to the car loads of black gringos with NFL jerseys, and it happen last year and the year before that. I know a few lawyers who were used to help fellas get out of driving and rental car issues. So why go to a small banana republic country and wildout as if you are in the states, doing what Dominicans do? Why go to Sosua and become an easy target? And it beats me why anyone would try and open a business in Sosua to work for pesos. You will never be allowed to go to the DR to get over. The Dominicans are nice people, but everyone see an American, Canadian, or European as a target. And a business woman in Sosua told me that in their mind, any gringo who moves to their country must be broke, and move to the DR because they are barely affording to live in their country. I have been going to Sosua and DR since 2009, and all I can say is do not let the Dominicans play us, because they have enough knowledge to manipulate us with their home field advantage and will always be 2 steps ahead of all you let them know from their free ISG membership and free youtube subscription.
Enjoy the Super Bowl! I can't wait for all of you to leave so I can enjoy Sosua without the herds and hype!
Just got back from my first visit in 2 years. If I didn't go with my gut instinct and listened to everything I've read in this thread, one would think Sosua dried up like the desert, with empty presidente bottles left behind.
I enjoyed my stay, just like I've had on many trips in the past 12 years.
Ahnvee is the spot to be, finally they brought some style and class to the neighborhood, I really enjoyed everything about the outdoor party, the variety was top notch. The place has something for everyone.
Yesterday I was grabbing an early evening drink after a day at the beach, I stopped by the big outdoor corner spot across the street from Bourbon, I believe its called "Keens", idk for sure. There were about 3 tables with 4 chicas sitting at each, some gents along the bar stools including myself, and a few scattered around, it was not many people. As soon as I took my first sip from the bottle, a marked police truck rolled up, along with an unmarked truck with military looking personal, and some people that said municipal on their shirts, they walked in like a scene out of CSI, small crowds gathered looking at the commotion, I kept sipping my drink watching the show, minutes later the waitress came up with my check, I paid right away, continued enjoying my drink, the chicas were escorted out the back gate, after about 15-20 mins, the owner comes up to me and a coupe gents, asks us respectfully to finish our drinks and if all goes well come back in an hour.
The neighborhood did change, it feels a bit quieter, but its not dead, its not boring, they just cleaned it up a bit. It went under the radar for decades, and I have a good feeling in a matter of years, things will go back to the old grimy scene that it was made for. We have to keep in mind, it is election year as well.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2419006]Its only sex and I don't disrespect any of the girls unless they try to rip me off.
Very few of us really know the daily hardships that the girls are confronted with.
A little kindness goes along way in the DR.[/QUOTE]Guys who get off on disrespecting women are sad.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2419288]Guys who get off on disrespecting women are sad.[/QUOTE]I totally agree!
My flippant use of the term hoes, comes from some here, who have accused me in the past of trusting and respecting my local Dominican circle of GF, family and network of local connections too much.
It's in the record!
By the way, mongers who complain that locals don't respect them, should be reminded that respect can only be earned, and not demanded!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2419288]Guys who get off on disrespecting women are sad.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. You have guys that go to other countries and act ignorant. Treat the women like they are a carnival ride at the amusement park. The reason you see some women ask for money up front is because they have been burnt by a monger. The guy gives them half the money he agreed to pay or he gives them nothing. If men do these types of things and treat women badly in their country. Why would it be any different in a foreign country.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2419318]Totally agree. You have guys that go to other countries and act ignorant. Treat the women like they are a carnival ride at the amusement park. The reason you see some women ask for money up front is because they have been burnt by a monger. The guy gives them half the money he agreed to pay or he gives them nothing. If men do these types of things and treat women badly in their country. Why would it be any different in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]There are always two sides to the story. I am sure mongers do not disrespect girls anywhere but at the same time have to be on guard. Not all girls okay fair. Many times pushes mongers to the limit. I am sure it happened to everybody. Case in point us I had a normal chica who stayed with me three days. Sweet, innocent aiming to please. I took care of her very well and trusted her. On the last I was not being careful to lock my phone. She stole the phone before leaving.
No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.
Very few mongers are into dating there. Even if some come across as being two day old virgins, they are in the business.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2419348]There are always two sides to the story. I am sure mongers do not disrespect girls anywhere but at the same time have to be on guard. Not all girls okay fair. Many times pushes mongers to the limit. I am sure it happened to everybody. Case in point us I had a normal chica who stayed with me three days. Sweet, innocent aiming to please. I took care of her very well and trusted her. On the last I was not being careful to lock my phone. She stole the phone before leaving.
No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.
Very few mongers are into dating there. Even if some come across as being two day old virgins, they are in the business.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct about it being two sides of the story. I don't think anyone is denying that. We are just shedding light on the side that doesn't get talked about a lot.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2419364]You are absolutely correct about it being two sides of the story. I don't think anyone is denying that. We are just shedding light on the side that doesn't get talked about a lot.[/QUOTE]Lol.
It does get talked about a lot among the chicas.
You should hear what I hear about mongers, Lol, from my circle of chicas, over drinks! Too bad they don't have a Forum here on ISG for some balance!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2419379]Lol.
It does get talked about a lot among the chicas.
You should hear what I hear about mongers, Lol, from my circle of chicas, over drinks! Too bad they don't have a Forum here on ISG for some balance![/QUOTE]It would be super interesting to hear their perspective.
I know some dominicans see gringos as show offs. They say, they come here and act rich, but in their country they not rich. There's some truth to that. But most guys are just enjoying a hard earned vacation while also enjoying the exchange rate.
I've also had chicas complain that I pay the same price I paid 2 years ago. They seem to have no concept of supply and demand. LOL. Its all good, just interesting.
I was there 2 weeks ago and had the same experience Ahnvee is a great venue. Plenty of room and women. No one enjoyed Classicos any more then me but I did not miss it. What I did miss was sitting in front of El flow and watching afternoon action stroll the streets. One of my buddies is on the ground giving me updates. Says the place is packed and he is having a ball.
[QUOTE=Newport;2419181]Just got back from my first visit in 2 years. If I didn't go with my gut instinct and listened to everything I've read in this thread, one would think Sosua dried up like the desert, with empty presidente bottles left behind.
I enjoyed my stay, just like I've had on many trips in the past 12 years.
Ahnvee is the spot to be, finally they brought some style and class to the neighborhood, I really enjoyed everything about the outdoor party, the variety was top notch. The place has something for everyone.
Yesterday I was grabbing an early evening drink after a day at the beach, I stopped by the big outdoor corner spot across the street from Bourbon, I believe its called "Keens", idk for sure. There were about 3 tables with 4 chicas sitting at each, some gents along the bar stools including myself, and a few scattered around, it was not many people. As soon as I took my first sip from the bottle, a marked police truck rolled up, along with an unmarked truck with military looking personal, and some people that said municipal on their shirts, they walked in like a scene out of CSI, small crowds gathered looking at the commotion, I kept sipping my drink watching the show, minutes later the waitress came up with my check, I paid right away, continued enjoying my drink, the chicas were escorted out the back gate, after about 15-20 mins, the owner comes up to me and a coupe gents, asks us respectfully to finish our drinks and if all goes well come back in an hour.
The neighborhood did change, it feels a bit quieter, but its not dead, its not boring, they just cleaned it up a bit. It went under the radar for decades, and I have a good feeling in a matter of years, things will go back to the old grimy scene that it was made for. We have to keep in mind, it is election year as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2419429]It would be super interesting to hear their perspective.
I know some dominicans see gringos as show offs. They say, they come here and act rich, but in their country they not rich. There's some truth to that. But most guys are just enjoying a hard earned vacation while also enjoying the exchange rate.
I've also had chicas complain that I pay the same price I paid 2 years ago. They seem to have no concept of supply and demand. LOL. Its all good, just interesting.[/QUOTE]It is fun.
I spend far more time with local semi pros and ex hookers than with ex pats, and mongers. Some I've known for 10 years. Some are are now sad sacks that I help out with a few pesos when they are hungry (for old times sake, Lol) and quickly send them on their way.
I'm retired. Back home we have 5 months of winter, guys my age are dying like flies. Here in the sun you can add a few more healthy and happy years to your life. Even on a limited budget, you can feel rich here.
Typically, while I'm having a beer in my local bar, We got a young local beauty that would stop traffic back home, who goes down the street and does my shopping, agua, leche, pan, coffee, fruta, imported beer. Yesterday she sent a chico to climb to the very top of a big tree to get me some ripe mangos. I buy her a beer. And promise that one day when my regular is not around, I'll fuck her. She tells me what she'll do for me! We've been having this same conversation for the last 3 years, but she's just a good amiga, one of our circle of locals.
Life is good, Brother P, and it looks like you have figured how to max it out!
Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2419348]No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.[/QUOTE]I'm with Sammon on this one. Who gives a fuck what the prostitutes think? I know I don't. Anymore than I do about what my mechanic thinks of me when I have the oil changed in my vehicle, what the server thinks of me because I order water in the restaurant and drink at home (that's how I can afford my vehicle) or the person checking me out of the grocery store thinks about what I am buying. They are there to do their jobs and perform their service. If they act like professionals they will earn the treatment of a professional. Someone said something similar about respect. It's in the record.
Note that this principle is applicable if you live / visit Sosua or Santo Domingo.
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2419599]Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.[/QUOTE]Read my post below, (and others) it covers the bar closing situations, the SW locations, and the dispersal of the action to the outskirts, but it is still a small town, and you can get to the main places on a short moto ride. Afternoons there is action at the main beach.
As for hotels, the heart of the new action, is Ahnvee, but has gotten mixed reviews here! My recommendations for relatively inexpensive hotels have been consist, New Garden and Europe, never had a serious complaint if you pay attention to basics, proximity to noise etc.
NG is close to casual street action, and Europe is now more central to the area at large.
Maybe other posters will add answers to your questions.
Good luck, and let us know!
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2419599]Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.[/QUOTE]Europa has always been my spot but it's good and bad there.
Europa has big rooms with kitchenettes but its old and outdated. Had to switch rooms last time be the room smelled funny and gave me a headache. White stuff was on the bed sheets from paint that was falling of the ceiling.
Romanita bar is good to hangout and right in front of Europa. The girls there are in play and its two bars across the street. So you can shop in the Europa area easily.
I love public transportation in the DR, never needed a car. It might be an add on for night service to go to Ahnvee but between 50 pesos and 100 pesos each way might be the cost.
Last trip (The weekend before the shutdown) I stayed at New Gardens in the new wing and loved it.
Ahnvee I have heard is mixed with the reviews.
I've been a little lazy about searching for new chicas. I decided to give my "8" a second date to see if she improved any. She did some. Mostly on the kissing which was better. Some open mouth but no tongue which is fine. Still no BBBJ on date 2. Also paid the moto 100 pesos for delivery but nothing for leaving. Just too damn convenient to do delivery than to go out searching eventhough I'm curious what I might find. Date 3. No moto charges. She handled that. I don't know where she stays exactly but I know it's not far. Also date three finally BBBJ! Tried for uncovered F_ but no dice there. Also tried for leche in mouth but no dice there either. Date 4 same as 3 nothing new. May finally go out hunting later in the week. Wouldn't mind one with bigger tits. But will have to see. She wears a noticeable amount of makeup but I guess it works).
[QUOTE=Newb20;2420363]Mostly on the kissing which was better. Some open mouth but no tongue - Tried for uncovered F_ but no dice there. Also tried for leche in mouth but no dice there either. Date 4 same as 3 nothing new.[/QUOTE]Wow dude you have some nuts. We all have played Dick roulette before so I'm not judging. Sounds like you enjoying yourself. Remember Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. I love your honesty. May your chamber always click the empty slot.
Thanks for the feedback GrownMan1. You're right, probably not the best judgement to try for that so it's probably good that got denied. But you know how it can be in the moment when you are with a hot chica. Leche in her mouth would have been nice).
[QUOTE=Newb20;2420363]I've been a little lazy about searching for new chicas.[/QUOTE]Do what works for you! Don't let others tell you who should be fucking, how you should be finding them or how to spend your hard earned money. For as along as you have "boots on the ground" there is opportunity. Keep searching you will find one that will let you "flood the zone" borrowing a football term. If you like it, I love it!
And I thank you very much about your post on having sex with chicas in Republica Dominicana! Live long, and may the pussy be with you always!
Went looking for a new one tonight. Was there around 10:30-11:00 pm. Wasn't as packed as last time. I was somewhat surprise by that but maybe just too early. If anyone else went later let us know if it got packed. Not so good at estimating numbers, 50 chicas? For me it was slim pickings. Just very little of interest. I spotted a girl in a white dress with big tits and a nice body, don't like a huge ass. But she was walking out with her girlfriend! Wtf? Was a bit far to chase but would have like to have had a closer look at her. Talked briefly with a Haitian girl that was attractive but just not what I wanted. Was walking around when I saw a girl walking somewhat my direction she was spinner type and looked pretty good. I said hola but I guess she wasn't interested. She said hola and paused very slightly but continued walking. Maybe meeting her friends or something. I would have liked to talk with her a bit. She had potential. So, that left just one other girl that I had seen earlier that I thought was a maybe. I went over to her and started talking to her. She was from Santo Domingo. Came here Thursday and said she was leaving tomorrow. Said it was her first time in Su? Said she was 23. Very petite. 5'3"ish. Very cute face but maybe not as pretty as my "8". Said her name was Charina. Had on a tinted wig. Damn those things shed. She seemed nice enough. Made a deal for "2 hours" She asked how much I wanted to pay. I said 2,000. She said 3,000. I said 2,500 and she took it. 100 pesos moto to my place. She was probably the warmest / nicest so far. BBBJ. And I asked if she would lick my balls and she did some. Covered F. She had nice nipples on maybe 32 B cup. There were maybe two other girls there that looked interesting to me but they were with guys already.
Well, gents, the election for Mayor of Sosua will be held this coming Sunday:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1[/URL]
Anyone willing to make a fun and friendly prediction as to who the winner will be? I predict Willie El Chamo beats incumbent Ilana Neumann 51 percent to 49 percent, respectively. What say you guys?
Looks like the Bruhs got Anvhee lit!!
[URL]https://streamable.com/6zwh0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2422505]Looks like the Bruhs got Anvhee lit!!
[URL]https://streamable.com/6zwh0[/URL][/QUOTE]Fuck Colombia. This looks like my kind of place. As soon as the water gets warm I'm on my way.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2422505]Looks like the Bruhs got Anvhee lit!!
[URL]https://streamable.com/6zwh0[/URL][/QUOTE]Then they wonder why things get shut down. They've made it clear they want things quiet and discreet.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2422505]Looks like the Bruhs got Anvhee lit!!
[URL]https://streamable.com/6zwh0[/URL][/QUOTE]Really cool! Looks like the black bros are at it again in force. No disrespect as this tall white gringo had a good time on my 10 plus day stay to the Sue back 3 plus years ago and was shown much respect by my black US comrades, all good times and fun!
Now I enjoy my Colombian black chicas from the coast of Colombia, and how I cherish my delicious black Colombians, mummmmm.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2422320]Well, gents, the election for Mayor of Sosua will be held this coming Sunday:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5803&article=1[/URL]
Anyone willing to make a fun and friendly prediction as to who the winner will be? I predict Willie El Chamo beats incumbent Ilana Neumann 51 percent to 49 percent, respectively. What say you guys?[/QUOTE]The people want willie but Santo Domingo wants elana. I day elana.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2422505]Looks like the Bruhs got Anvhee lit!!
[URL]https://streamable.com/6zwh0[/URL][/QUOTE]Just as matter of time and it will all be shut down!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2422533]The people want willie but Santo Domingo wants elana. I day elana.[/QUOTE]Which begs the question: Will the politicos in Sosua stuff the ballot box in favor of Ilana? Can they?
Anyone else want to make a prediction?
The new set up works for me. Ahnvee is a great place for the bros. Plenty of room and all the action you could want in one place. Sometimes segregation has advantages. We are getting the best of this del.
[QUOTE=ChiSmitty;2422753]Just as matter of time and it will all be shut down![/QUOTE]
I seriously need to join the site, but I didn't expect my plans to change so quickly either. I'll be flying into POP Monday and back out the next Tuesday. Was supposed to be a trip with the girlfriend (spent a month in DR over 2 trips the last year with her) . But. Well. Not so much now, so I'm single and staying at Europa instead of original plans. Time to make the best of it!
I would be perfectly happy to buy a couple drinks and such for anyone who would like to chat and / or guide me a bit. Just wings and beers with a friendly soul is good with me. Not looking to get into too much trouble, but don't plan on coming back home without getting into some trouble! I would hope to have a couple great reports when I come back. I guess I'll find out soon though!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2423070]The new set up works for me. Ahnvee is a great place for the bros. Plenty of room and all the action you could want in one place. Sometimes segregation has advantages. We are getting the best of this del.[/QUOTE]I wish you would stop with the segregation stuff. Not all blacks want to be confined to ahnvee. I rarely go. When I do, I can only stay an hour or so. It's too manufactured, to put on. It lacks the natural feel of merengue or classico. Plus the drinks are way overpriced.
My Spanish is pretty good. I enjoy a nice glass of wine and a good meal downtown. I enjoy the music and conversation. I don't want to be confined to ahnvee. I don't want other races thinking downtown is theirs.
I've been hearing since December that ahnvee is on the s at at t list. Too much attention. Dudes can't stop with the YouTube videos. Wouldn't surprise me if some action was taken after the election.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2422530]Really cool! Looks like the black bros are at it again in force. No disrespect as this tall white gringo had a good time on my 10 plus day stay to the Sue back 3 plus years ago and was shown much respect by my black US comrades, all good times and fun!
Now I enjoy my Colombian black chicas from the coast of Colombia, and how I cherish my delicious black Colombians, mummmmm.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Ya Mon. Dark Dominicanas, too! I have always been an equal opportunity employer and friend! Variety is indeed the spice of life!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2423226]I wish you would stop with the segregation stuff. Not all blacks want to be confined to ahnvee. I rarely go. When I do, I can only stay an hour or so. It's too manufactured, to put on. It lacks the natural feel of merengue or classico. Plus the drinks are way overpriced.
My Spanish is pretty good. I enjoy a nice glass of wine and a good meal downtown. I enjoy the music and conversation. I don't want to be confined to ahnvee. I don't want other races thinking downtown is theirs.
I've been hearing since December that ahnvee is on the s at at t list. Too much attention. Dudes can't stop with the YouTube videos. Wouldn't surprise me if some action was taken after the election.[/QUOTE]Dammit that damn Gogo. Now I'm headed to the Sue to get up with his crew. Taking my road dog Bro Jay. We're going to give this place two days I really want to give an honest evaluation. Brother P sounds like you and I may have the same gripes.
IMHO That segregation or separation is targeted toward the Haitians. There wasn't A major problem with guys doing videos. Video footage of the Su has been floating around for years. That's why the club still allows video coverage inside of the resort. They actually want the promotion. When you control the movement of the people you control who is allowed to enter the premises. Thus no more freedom to roam hurts the Haitians the most because some don't have paperwork.
And even if they did have paperwork unless they are a little connected no entry. The Dominicans don't mind black or white Americans money, but they do have a problem with the Haitians getting money.
"An V" is charging a 300 peso cover tonight because of the election and no alcohol. There are about as many girls outside in front of the place as there are inside which ain't. The streets be pretty dead.
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Hope you don't fall into this election weekend that's got the country churned up. Bars here are closed, Pedro is dead! Alcohol is banned except for the A. I. s (some favored bars serve beer in the back in paper cups and an empty coke bottle on the side! Fools nobody but "keeps up appearances" for the cops!
My restaurant business contacts say it's because if the elections don't go the right way for some, the natives can get very restless! LOL.
I left the Sue yesterday. I was told to hurry up and get alcohol because all the places will be closed due to the election on Sunday. Once I arrived in Boca Chica took a break and later that night decided to hit the block. It was about 1201 midnight. I hadn't seen a block so empty since I was in Cuba The same week Fidel past.
Many people talk about how ugly the election can get. Some Dominicans and Haitians are giving me a fearful vibe. They expect it to be a lot of fights today. I don't understand why you would have elections on Sunday but I'm sure they have their reasons.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2424181]I don't understand why you would have elections on Sunday but I'm sure they have their reasons.[/QUOTE]Because that is the day everybody is off work and can go vote. In our country it is the opposite and everybody complains about the polls closing before they can get a chance to get there from work.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2424181]Many people talk about how ugly the election can get. Some Dominicans and Haitians are giving me a fearful vibe. They expect it to be a lot of fights today. I don't understand why you would have elections on Sunday but I'm sure they have their reasons.[/QUOTE]Bars (alcohol) closed for 2 days, re-open Monday, maybe.
Already one dead in SD and voting machines are having technical problems. Don't recall this much fooferaw inpast elections.
I can help you if you want. Just let me know. I can walk over to Europa or meet at a bar Monday or Tuesday to talk strategy. Maybe save you a mistake or two I've made. I prefer to meet early for say some tacos and a drink. In the 5-6 pm range. And then hunt later in the evening.
Unexpectedly I found myself in the Sue. I walk from the bus station to my apartment and it was a sad sight. A few Haitians lurking in the dark or walking like Deers from corner to corner.
There were about 9 to 11 guys posted up at Rumbas looking out toward a empty street. I guess old habits are hard to kill. Kind of feel sorry for the guys. Remind me of an elephant refusing to leave the side of her baby hoping she would get up from off the ground, however it's obvious it's dead. Nothing your waiting will do because it's dead.
Ran into my man Angelo and he reminded me the action was further down closer to the club now. I did not know how far down it was but besides a very little beach action there wasn't much of any action. Kool, I have WhatsApp drought no problem for me. I have a little catching up to do with my regular anyway. 1500 exit fee.
Later We walked toward Ahnvee about 12:30 AM. The motor Scooter guys quickly jumped out. We were in front of city lights. I asked how much to go to the club and they said 100 pesos. I looked at him as if he was stupid. My friend who had already jumped on the motor scooter before asking how much, jumped off followed my lead.
I've never been to the club but I know it's not passed the casino. I Only pay 50 pesos to go to the casino. I know we are only talking a dollar but I'm in Dominican mode. Had we not asked they would have charged us 200 pesos as we found out a few guys were charged.
Anyway we told them No and took about 20 steps before a group of chicks driving a car was asking us to come on and get a ride. We hopped in the car with them and it was about a minute or 2 ride from Europa.
I would have been Gringo hustled had I gave 200 pesos or even 100 pesos for a 5 peso ride. I don't even complain when a Dominican tries to hustle me I just don't give them my business.
There was a line of chica waiting to get in and a separate line for men. Security was checking for alcohol.
Inside the club I saw Haitians and Dominicans. I have to respect the fact that they seem to welcome everyone for the most part. I mean I saw some Haitians that were too Haitian for Classico.
The place was very crowded and I like the outside vibe. It wasn't a club atmosphere. It was more like a meeting area with plenty room to move around. It was not crowded and people were relaxed. A lot of black and white guys and a bit of Dominicanos.
The DJ sucked and there was no area where I seen people dancing. The drinks were reasonably priced. The area was a nice open air chill spot. It wasn't until later on Friday night that they open the club part.
The club part was an upstairs area on the third floor. It was everything Classico was. As a matter of fact you can call it little Classico. At about 2 o'clock the place felt like Classico. I seen Chica ranges from 2 to 8. Not many 9's.
I love the fact that you can go downstairs chill and get out of the pack club scene. The place is equipped to accommodate almost the whole block.
I was saying to myself if I was new on vacation, I would make this work for me. Or if I love the club scene I couldn't complain with the new changes. However, I've been coming to the Sue too long and I'm used to cake with icing and a cherry on top. This place is just a poundcake and the quality of chicas did not impress me.
I was in the Sue for two days and only got with my PP regular. Both nights we left the club empty-handed. My boy Jay did pull one as we were walking away from the club for 1500 pesos. I did get offers but I did not take them up. I hadn't even got a quote on a price. I was impressed with the layout and unimpressed with the selections. I think I witness more dimes in Classico.
Yesterday was election day. If the changes stay permanent in the Sue the Sue will survive and always be a place to go and meet Chicas. For a lot of us veterans it's not the organize noise that we fell in love with in the past. That's a hard pill to swallow however it's a pill you must swallow once you get here.
An excellent take on the NU SU by Grownman.
The DR Elections were halted and suspended yesterday so, it will be a while until we see whether Willie or Ilana gets to run the show, and what new changes they may bring!
Glad to hear your take on it! I was afraid I was being too picky. Doesn't sound like it.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2424295]I can help you if you want. Just let me know. I can walk over to Europa or meet at a bar Monday or Tuesday to talk strategy. Maybe save you a mistake or two I've made. I prefer to meet early for say some tacos and a drink. In the 5-6 pm range. And then hunt later in the evening.[/QUOTE]I'm settling in now, was going to grab shower, dinner and a drink in a bit. If its getting to late tonight, tomorrow would be good. I E been up since 1 am local time traveling. So a little worn out tonight anyway!
I'll walk down to that outside bar area of Europa about 5 pm on Tuesday.
The numbers are nice at Ahnvee. The quality met my needs. I like good sex and the dimes have not aways been good performers. Ahvee has the numbers of the old strip under one roof. There so many girls I ger over whelmed. I am older now and don't like being in clubs late at night. I usually find my chicas in 30 minutes or less and head back to the room. Diimes tend to want mucho denero. I find attractive girls who are happy some one got them out of the club and they show their gratefullness in bed. I Have been going to the sue for 8 years so I know what it use to be. I have made the adjustment to the new setup and I like it.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2424561]Unexpectedly I found myself in the Sue. I walk from the bus station to my apartment and it was a sad sight. A few Haitians lurking in the dark or walking like Deers from corner to corner.
There were about 9 to 11 guys posted up at Rumbas looking out toward a empty street. I guess old habits are hard to kill. Kind of feel sorry for the guys. Remind me of an elephant refusing to leave the side of her baby hoping she would get up from off the ground, however it's obvious it's dead. Nothing your waiting will do because it's dead.
Ran into my man Angelo and he reminded me the action was further down closer to the club now. I did not know how far down it was but besides a very little beach action there wasn't much of any action. Kool, I have WhatsApp drought no problem for me. I have a little catching up to do with my regular anyway. 1500 exit fee.
Later We walked toward Ahnvee about 12:30 AM. The motor Scooter guys quickly jumped out. We were in front of city lights. I asked how much to go to the club and they said 100 pesos. I looked at him as if he was stupid. My friend who had already jumped on the motor scooter before asking how much, jumped off followed my lead.
I've never been to the club but I know it's not passed the casino. I Only pay 50 pesos to go to the casino. I know we are only talking a dollar but I'm in Dominican mode. Had we not asked they would have charged us 200 pesos as we found out a few guys were charged.
Anyway we told them No and took about 20 steps before a group of chicks driving a car was asking us to come on and get a ride. We hopped in the car with them and it was about a minute or 2 ride from Europa.
I would have been Gringo hustled had I gave 200 pesos or even 100 pesos for a 5 peso ride. I don't even complain when a Dominican tries to hustle me I just don't give them my business.
There was a line of chica waiting to get in and a separate line for men. Security was checking for alcohol.
Inside the club I saw Haitians and Dominicans. I have to respect the fact that they seem to welcome everyone for the most part. I mean I saw some Haitians that were too Haitian for Classico.
The place was very crowded and I like the outside vibe. It wasn't a club atmosphere. It was more like a meeting area with plenty room to move around. It was not crowded and people were relaxed. A lot of black and white guys and a bit of Dominicanos.
The DJ sucked and there was no area where I seen people dancing. The drinks were reasonably priced. The area was a nice open air chill spot. It wasn't until later on Friday night that they open the club part.
The club part was an upstairs area on the third floor. It was everything Classico was. As a matter of fact you can call it little Classico. At about 2 o'clock the place felt like Classico. I seen Chica ranges from 2 to 8. Not many 9's.
I love the fact that you can go downstairs chill and get out of the pack club scene. The place is equipped to accommodate almost the whole block.
I was saying to myself if I was new on vacation, I would make this work for me. Or if I love the club scene I couldn't complain with the new changes. However, I've been coming to the Sue too long and I'm used to cake with icing and a cherry on top. This place is just a poundcake and the quality of chicas did not impress me.
I was in the Sue for two days and only got with my PP regular. Both nights we left the club empty-handed. My boy Jay did pull one as we were walking away from the club for 1500 pesos. I did get offers but I did not take them up. I hadn't even got a quote on a price. I was impressed with the layout and unimpressed with the selections. I think I witness more dimes in Classico.
Yesterday was election day. If the changes stay permanent in the Sue the Sue will survive and always be a place to go and meet Chicas. For a lot of us veterans it's not the organize noise that we fell in love with in the past. That's a hard pill to swallow however it's a pill you must swallow once you get here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Newb20;2424715]I'll walk down to that outside bar area of Europa about 5 pm on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Sounds Great. I'll have a Barcelona Shirt on. Thanks!
[QUOTE=TNtraveler;2424976]Sounds Great. I'll have a Barcelona Shirt on. Thanks![/QUOTE]How about you two getting an ISG membership?
Your WhatsApp texts are getting boring!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2424770]The numbers are nice at Ahnvee. The quality met my needs. I like good sex and the dimes have not aways been good performers. Ahvee has the numbers of the old strip under one roof. There so many girls I ger over whelmed. I am older now and don't like being in clubs late at night. I usually find my chicas in 30 minutes or less and head back to the room. Diimes tend to want mucho denero. I find attractive girls who are happy some one got them out of the club and they show their gratefullness in bed. I Have been going to the sue for 8 years so I know what it use to be. I have made the adjustment to the new setup and I like it.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to chime in on the new look of Sosua. Been going for years and the change I belive at this point is permanant. I am waiting to see what the new area contruction will bring. I don't like Ahnvee period. It's like being locked in corral like animals with a bunch of folks you don't really want to sit with. My date and I were sitting at the pool bar and guys come and plop their asses down on the bar to sit. Same with the tables near the kitchen. To damn lazy and disrespectful to pull up a chair. Sat right on the edge of the table. Not to mention to knuckleheads throwing up money and making it rain. Who still does that? Over the Superbowl it was packed and good a time was had by all. When the slow season hits it will be ugly, although the action will still be there. The beach is the new walking area in the daytime after that you have to wait until late night to go to Ahnvee. The new contruction and resorts are a fact and in full swing. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the new area will produce daytime bars and action and a sidewalk for the honey's to stroll. In the meantime I am cruising the streets hitting the little local bars. Let the newby's have Ahnvee and bring back my old Sosua.
Peace,
Bumped into Charina today walking around. I had visited with her once before. She is about 5 ft tall. Very petite. Super firm ass. Smaller tits with good nipples. She is Dominican and her hair is currently colored fuchsia (straight and long). So, she is easy to spot with that hair. She is visiting again from SD. I highly recommend her. You can find her at Ahnvee probably most any night. She will be here at least a week she said. She has a very nice chill vibe. Gives me BBBJ. I didn't try to negotiate down from the previous 2,500 peso agreement.
Some ISG vets and me always got a kick out of guys asking over and over again if the Country they are interested in has a place like the former Help in Rio.
Well from the limited reports I have seen about Ahnvee it would appear that this new joint may have a taste of Help in it.
I guess I'll ask a few dumb questions. Is it ok to visit without being a hotel guest? Is there a takeout fee?
I plan on staying at New Garden per Mr. Slick { Go Go}. It is close by and the word is they have a great breakfast included into the room rate.
I'm a funny type of guy. I see a lot of Sosua Vets looking to go to Colombia instead of the DR. That is fine with me as I have had my fill of Colombia and I like to swim against the tide so I'm going to give Sosua another try. It has been about 11 years since my last visit there. Of course a TR will follow if I pull the trigger. The main thing that is holding me back is there are no flights to Sosua. My airline arrives in Santiago at 2 AM and leaves for FLL at 3 AM. I know it may be a small thing for some but I like to have better air times than that. Yes I know from Miami the times are better but my home city only goes to FLL.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2426462]I plan on staying at New Garden. It is close by and the word is they have a great breakfast included into the room rate.[/QUOTE]I have not stayed in the New Garden, but others have and they gave me good reports. During my visit a few years ago I ate breakfast there every morning. Great breakfast in the style of my country of origin. Also, I liked to get a table overlooking the street. I always enjoyed watching the walk of shame from there.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2426462]Some ISG vets and me always got a kick out of guys asking over and over again if the Country they are interested in has a place like the former Help in Rio.
Well from the limited reports I have seen about Ahnvee it would appear that this new joint may have a taste of Help in it.
I guess I'll ask a few dumb questions. Is it ok to visit without being a hotel guest? Is there a takeout fee?
I plan on staying at New Garden per Mr. Slick { Go Go}. It is close by and the word is they have a great breakfast included into the room rate.
I'm a funny type of guy. I see a lot of Sosua Vets looking to go to Colombia instead of the DR. That is fine with me as I have had my fill of Colombia and I like to swim against the tide so I'm going to give Sosua another try. It has been about 11 years since my last visit there. Of course a TR will follow if I pull the trigger. The main thing that is holding me back is there are no flights to Sosua. My airline arrives in Santiago at 2 AM and leaves for FLL at 3 AM. I know it may be a small thing for some but I like to have better air times than that. Yes I know from Miami the times are better but my home city only goes to FLL.[/QUOTE]Uber is your friend. Shouldn't cost you more than $50.
Yes, any guy can visit. No takeout fee. Just a cover fee to get in lately. The girls that are working are independent. You make a deal with them. I've only made short-time deals so far at 2,500 pesos but YMMV. I'm sure less popular girls can be had for less. One of the locals that drives a moto gets his for around 1,500 but told me some of the top girls would not take 1,500.
Ahnvee is wide open and free admission. A mini Help is a good comparision. You will have a great time. Plenty of women waiting for you. The venue is very attractivr. Large screen TVs everywhere. The staff doesa realgood job serving.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2426462]Some ISG vets and me always got a kick out of guys asking over and over again if the Country they are interested in has a place like the former Help in Rio.
Well from the limited reports I have seen about Ahnvee it would appear that this new joint may have a taste of Help in it.
I guess I'll ask a few dumb questions. Is it ok to visit without being a hotel guest? Is there a takeout fee?
I plan on staying at New Garden per Mr. Slick { Go Go}. It is close by and the word is they have a great breakfast included into the room rate.
I'm a funny type of guy. I see a lot of Sosua Vets looking to go to Colombia instead of the DR. That is fine with me as I have had my fill of Colombia and I like to swim against the tide so I'm going to give Sosua another try. It has been about 11 years since my last visit there. Of course a TR will follow if I pull the trigger. The main thing that is holding me back is there are no flights to Sosua. My airline arrives in Santiago at 2 AM and leaves for FLL at 3 AM. I know it may be a small thing for some but I like to have better air times than that. Yes I know from Miami the times are better but my home city only goes to FLL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Newb20;2426213]Bumped into Charina today walking around. I had visited with her once before. She is about 5 ft tall. Very petite. Super firm ass. Smaller tits with good nipples. She is Dominican and her hair is currently colored fuchsia (straight and long). So, she is easy to spot with that hair. She is visiting again from SD. I highly recommend her. You can find her at Ahnvee probably most any night. She will be here at least a week she said. She has a very nice chill vibe. Gives me BBBJ. I didn't try to negotiate down from the previous 2,500 peso agreement.[/QUOTE]All jokes please don't take offense. So you are so excited about 1 prostitute you have to promote her to us? Nothing makes my dick more harder than a guy saying he just session a chica and telling me I should try her next.
Can you guarantee she's going to give the same service as she gave you. If she steals from someone after you suggested her will you re-compensate anything stolen. Newb. Newb ok enuff said.
All jokes aside I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2426462]Some ISG vets and me always got a kick out of guys asking over and over again if the Country they are interested in has a place like the former Help in Rio.
Well from the limited reports I have seen about Ahnvee it would appear that this new joint may have a taste of Help in it.
I guess I'll ask a few dumb questions. Is it ok to visit without being a hotel guest? Is there a takeout fee?
I plan on staying at New Garden per Mr. Slick { Go Go}. It is close by and the word is they have a great breakfast included into the room rate.
I'm a funny type of guy. I see a lot of Sosua Vets looking to go to Colombia instead of the DR. That is fine with me as I have had my fill of Colombia and I like to swim against the tide so I'm going to give Sosua another try. It has been about 11 years since my last visit there. Of course a TR will follow if I pull the trigger. The main thing that is holding me back is there are no flights to Sosua. My airline arrives in Santiago at 2 AM and leaves for FLL at 3 AM. I know it may be a small thing for some but I like to have better air times than that. Yes I know from Miami the times are better but my home city only goes to FLL.[/QUOTE]I like to come and go from the airport in Santiago because the redeye's match my work schedule. I know a good driver, but he charges 100. In box me if you want the contact.
Your a vet, so you'll figure it out quickly. I will tell you Dominicanas are not generally as GFE as Colombianas.
The trick in sosua in my opinion is to build a WhatsApp crew and session with them at least once per trip. My experience is the sex just gets better and better. It takes time, but the smarter chicas will appreciate being a regular and will take care of you. I love the sue. The beach, the camaraderie, etc. But it's better now that I have a solid team. Peace. Enjoy!
I was there for a five day stint.
I get to Santiago using a red eye (annoying but is more affordable and works with my work schedule, even though I paid a hefty $650 which is cheaper compared to Pto Pta). I have an Uber driver who took me to Sosua (2000 pesos) but first I went to a Santiago supermercado and both I and the Uber driver had breakfast. Got to Sosua at about 8 AM. I stay at an apartment and had asked the driver to buy me some fresh goat meat which I can cook there. He did.
As a reminder, I go to Sosua, not for the women walking about (there are fewer and fewer of them anyway, visibly, with cops scaring them away) as women can be found all over with a little bit of resourcefulness. Thanks Heavens! So I did not have to go to Ahnvee or similar spots and have no pointers on that.
I tried three places for fish. One was a recommendation of a forum member (Jorge Mayra #64 even though I wanted to go to Aris #64 but did not realize until later that I got to the wrong 64 spot), I also went to a faraway place called Sabaneta recommended by a woman which turned out to be very bad for me. Fried fish of no flavor and that gave me acidity and, finally my favorite Italian place. Classy Beachside restaurant in Cabarete. I have posted two pictures.
Various women visited me. I had actually brought a doll for one of the women's 4 year old daughter. Whose birthday was imminent. Another woman I know, is pregnant and she came to see me too. I had brought prenatal vitamins for her, which apparently is expensive for her. Small gestures make it easy for all and so does the time together. No need to discuss prices, hours, and all those things that at least for me are downers for a hard on.
Interestingly, I had a new visitor who on her second visit asked me if she could bring her cousin and I assented. I bought then Coronas (a dozen of them) and pizza and other small eats. What with my bluetooth speaker, and good Spanish music, we soon had a party. Something I have not had in a while. Curious how a few bottles allow a woman to rub against you, with her cousin present, against the backdrop of music. Enjoyed that quite a bit after a long hiatus.
Went to the New Garden restaurant one evening for my post dinner expresso, and a glass of grappa. Met two young blokes, from Canada. Though one was of Ethopian and the other of Somalian extraction. Had a very nice conversation with the two rookies who then left for Ahnvee.
Was looking forward to mangoes. Very poor quality this time of the year.
With all due respect to anyone acclaiming the superiority of other spots in the DR, Sosua suits me just fine: small footprint, excellent food options and as usual, without any shortage of female companions. It will continue to draw me in.
Nope, not easily offended. More a post for possible rookies. Is what it is. Hey, most of those girls are getting a lot of dicks in them every night. You don't know for sure a girl walking into ahnvee just sucked off whatever dude and is back for more pesos. At least this girl showers first. Since I posted about some to avoid. I thought I would post about a good one. No biggie.
Assortment of old and new. Enjoy!!
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There are way more girls then guys in Sosua. The average girl gets little business during the week. The competiton is very tough. I turn down scores of girls before I pull the trigger. There are atleast 6 or 7 girls for every guy. The top girls get more then there share but the average girl may do 2 or 3 guys a week if she is lucky. You see girls and you know that are not selling any pussy at any price. Many girls are desparate. I have been doing my hobby for many years now.
For what it's worth. A girl I did short time with for 2,500 pesos. Is leaving here with more than 25,000 pesos after working 3 nights. So that's a few dicks. I asked her about all night just for FYI. She said 7,000 pesos. She is one of the hotter girls I saw at Ahnvee.
The last few girls have all quote 3,000 for short time. But the most recent one quote me 4,000 for two hours. I came back with my standard 2,500 and she said it would be only one hour. I thought for a second and figured that is all I really needed. So that's the deal that got made. Was fine for me.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2426638]Nope, not easily offended. More a post for possible rookies. Is what it is. Hey, most of those girls are getting a lot of dicks in them every night. You don't know for sure a girl walking into ahnvee just sucked off whatever dude and is back for more pesos. At least this girl showers first. Since I posted about some to avoid. I thought I would post about a good one. No biggie.[/QUOTE]Good deal my man. I like your spirit that's why I joke with you. Keep up the reports please!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2427037]There are way more girls then guys in Sosua. The average girl gets little business during the week. The competiton is very tough. I turn down scores of girls before I pull the trigger. There are atleast 6 or 7 girls for every guy. The top girls get more then there share but the average girl may do 2 or 3 guys a week if she is lucky. You see girls and you know that are not selling any pussy at any price. Many girls are desparate. I have been doing my hobby for many years now.[/QUOTE]True enough!
Some of the local chicas just won't go to the Ahmvee pro meat market, just for appearances sake. For them it has a bad rep, and they are all marked immediately as hookers. Might as well pin a menu on them and give them a ticket machine, LOL. The pros obviously love it and they make a good living. The place is always full enough.
But for the semi and occasional chica, it takes away some of their game, the allure of a GF fantasy, for a night, a weekend or even a week. Just like in the old days.
They are hanging out with their GFs, at home, in the smaller bars, and picking a some of their business from regulars and their smartphone contact lists. These are the ones some visitors prefer. Someone who comes out preparing to meet a guy for the evening, clean and fresh, and not still dripping from the other 5 guys she's just come from, and not in such a godawful hurry.
They are building a new big spot up in the area, and a couple of other bars will be opening, so it looks like there'll be a choice of places to sit and chill, with or without a chica, like downtown used to be.
That is, unless Willy gets elected and moves the action downtown again, but I don't see that happening.
But even though the chica parade is over, you can still pick up casual chicas at the corner of Rosen and up from there.
As usual IMHO and YMMV.
Ahnvee is pretty slow tonight. 200 peso cover. 150 presidente, 200 corona. Two guys walking out empty handed before I do. Sucks if you have a short bench. Wanted something new. Went looking on the street. It's ugly puta night on the street. Walk by a clothing store. Hey what's that. Shit a mannequin. LOL.
What day are the elections taking place?
[QUOTE=Adinga;2427524]What day are the elections taking place?[/QUOTE]Sunday March 15th. No alcohol sold except at the AI'd.
But you can always get a beer in a paper cup in back from the street at the bars who do who stay open.
[QUOTE=Adinga;2427524]What day are the elections taking place?[/QUOTE]March 15, 2020 & May 17,2020.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2427494]Ahnvee is pretty slow tonight. 200 peso cover. 150 presidente, 200 corona. Two guys walking out empty handed before I do. Sucks if you have a short bench. Wanted something new. Went looking on the street. It's ugly puta night on the street. Walk by a clothing store. Hey what's that. Shit a mannequin. LOL.[/QUOTE]Eerie coincidence that things got exponentially worse when Bourbon Street / Ahnvee came to the strip, starting with the Rumba situation. Business seems to always get funneled to these folks. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, just saying.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2427102]The last few girls have all quote 3,000 for short time. But the most recent one quote me 4,000 for two hours.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sosua has gone damn crazy.
In the old days Monday in the SU was better then Saturday night any where else. Ahnvee had not been charging the 200 pesos on my last trip. Right now they are in the cat bird seat but thay have a good product.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2427494]Ahnvee is pretty slow tonight. 200 peso cover. 150 presidente, 200 corona. Two guys walking out empty handed before I do. Sucks if you have a short bench. Wanted something new. Went looking on the street. It's ugly puta night on the street. Walk by a clothing store. Hey what's that. Shit a mannequin. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2427037]There are way more girls then guys in Sosua. The average girl gets little business during the week. The competiton is very tough. I turn down scores of girls before I pull the trigger. There are atleast 6 or 7 girls for every guy. The top girls get more then there share but the average girl may do 2 or 3 guys a week if she is lucky. You see girls and you know that are not selling any pussy at any price. Many girls are desparate. I have been doing my hobby for many years now.[/QUOTE]The second time I came to Sousa, I had a vet tell me that women from all over Hispaniola would come just to get paid. I had my fair share of these desperate women, following me to my hotel begging me to just give them one chance. I even had one woman just came out and said "I'll do everything you want, even my culo. " My next trip there is going to be interesting, now since I know how things operate in the DR.
[QUOTE=Galenmarek;2428073]The second time I came to Sousa, I had a vet tell me that women from all over Hispaniola would come just to get paid. I had my fair share of these desperate women, following me to my hotel begging me to just give them one chance. I even had one woman just came out and said "I'll do everything you want, even my culo. " My next trip there is going to be interesting, now since I know how things operate in the DR.[/QUOTE]There are hookers who will come from anywhere on the Island to you, if you pay the freight. A 10 hour bus / taxi / bus / moto is no big deal to them.
But a common mistake for newbies is they are told that all women in Sosua are basically hookers. They arrive with that attitude. Not so, day to day workers have different lifestyles.
I've see too many newbies come into my local bars and treat the servers as if that is the case. When they get rejected, they believe that it's personal, and if they have had enough alcohol, get angry and abusive.
Truth is, out of 4 servers, one is probably the main squeeze of the owner, one may have steady local BF (who may suddenly show up from nowhere, if the language gets out of line, LOL), but that still leaves another 1 or 2, who if approached with a little respect and courtesy could end up being your trip to paradise.
The trick is to be smart, and eye up the situation, and don't believe everything you hear!
Good luck!
Ahnvee was not as dead as Monday. Talked to one of my contacts about all night. She quoted my $120 dollars. That was the first time someone quoted me dollars and not pesos. I said no. Tell me in pesos. I only have pesos. Wink wink. Well she said 5,000 pesos. She was having a slow night. I actually wanted someone new and chose her friend for short time. Her friend asked how much I wanted to pay. I said 2,000. She quoted 3 k. I said 2 k. She said 2,500. I think if I had bargained harder I could have had her for the 2 k but was lazy and just said OK at 2,500. That was suppose to be for 2 hours. Well, my experience so far with girls from Ahnvee is short time is short time. No matter 1 hour or 2 hours. She said she was 21 with no kids. She had pretty nice tits and a good body and face. 7.75-8.0 for me. But no BBBJ. So, when she asked for I tip I said I had no extra money. Not tipping if you don't provide something I want. I had not pre-negotiated the BBBJ. Not really a big deal but not going to tip without it. Also declined any extra for the moto home for her. I paid the moto to my room with her and me 100 pesos. So, all in 2,600 pesos.
In my opinion, informed through my personal experience and what my boys rolling through the place have told me: All those hos in The Su be fuckin. Just a matter of hitting their price point. Married, boyfriend, job, no job, they all be fuckin. Now that is not to say they are all prostitutes. But trust me they all be fuckin if you hit the right point point. Now they may not be fucking you. But they be fuckin. Don't let those wearing rose colored glasses and living the lifestyle of the old and decrepit tell you otherwise.
Hey Newb20, you got the wrong name. Because you be throwing up stuff better than some of the so called vets in here. Keep it up brother!
[QUOTE=Newb20;2428163]Ahnvee was not as dead as Monday. Talked to one of my contacts about all night. She quoted my $120 dollars. That was the first time someone quoted me dollars and not pesos. [/QUOTE]Wow! $120 or 6418 pesos for all night on a Tuesday night. This is the time you should be getting bargains. If I was in your shoes I would get the hell out of the Su for some air. PM me If you need a connect. I have a Puerto Plata mama sans that will send you pictures of young chicas from her hood and you can go from there. She will bring you the girls to your room but you must promise not to pay over 2000 pesos.
Before I put a chica in my contacts I ask her her price. It cuts down on surprise prices.
With the death of the street action, I guess the now limited access is allowing the Chicas to increase their prices exponentially. Limited chicas and increase prices the new Sue is a hard pill to swallow.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2428262]Wow! $120 or 6418 pesos for all night on a Tuesday night. This is the time you should be getting bargains. If I was in your shoes I would get the hell out of the Su for some air. PM me If you need a connect. I have a Puerto Plata mama sans that will send you pictures of young chicas from her hood and you can go from there. She will bring you the girls to your room but you must promise not to pay over 2000 pesos.
Before I put a chica in my contacts I ask her her price. It cuts down on surprise prices.
With the death of the street action, I guess the now limited access is allowing the Chicas to increase their prices exponentially. Limited chicas and increase prices the new Sue is a hard pill to swallow.[/QUOTE]If you go hunting in Ahnvee, then you are going to meet girls with their heads gased by fools making rain. The rules are the same at Ahnvee as Classicos or Helpee, the girls are more expensive in club mode, and Ahnvee is a club. But if any girl quotes you an outrages price, it's because some fool paid her what she or one of her friends asked. There's too many girls in Sosua who will still pay $1500RD pesos for a descent day amount of time. But who wants a girl overnight? An all night girl is not a working girl. I had a girl that worked in Sosua businesses that stayed all night "Free!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2427819]In the old days Monday in the SU was better then Saturday night any where else. Ahnvee had not been charging the 200 pesos on my last trip. Right now they are in the cat bird seat but thay have a good product.[/QUOTE]Oh hell no! $200RD? If you take a girl out, that is like a bar fee upfront, girl or no girl! Noooo, we don't do that? Whatsapp hit list all night, every night, and $1,500RD!
[QUOTE=Newb20;2428163]Ahnvee was not as dead as Monday. Talked to one of my contacts about all night. She quoted my $120 dollars. That was the first time someone quoted me dollars and not pesos. I said no. Tell me in pesos. [/QUOTE]Newb20,
Grownman is doing you a HUGE ass favor with setting you up with one of his connection so don't F'it up. He must really like you and for some reason I like your style as well so Ima give you a little cheat code as well. If you haven't done so already pay for a subscription here on the board. After you PM Grownman (again do NOT f'up his connect hes giving you), you need to PM and hit up some of the O. G. (Original Gangsters) mongers on this board that live down there. Seriously contact them and take them out to lunch. Thats right you pay. The knowledge and the connect they could possibly share with you is priceless and will be valuable for many years to come if you decide to continue to come to DR. BUT you got to come correct.
Do NOT meet up with them and act arrogant, crazy and worse yet an idiot that can't hold his liquor. These OG Mongers can size up a monger real quick because they see the bullshit all the time. Nothing worse for an OG Monger to be around a new monger that think their shit don't stink all the while they can't speak the native language, nor understand the culture, while thinking that they know it all, but somehow some way wind up getting jacked and fucked over for every penny they got OR worse yet end up in a domincian prison and you do NOT want that. So don't be that guy.
Instead be cool, stay humble and meet up with the OG Mongers that live there. Shoot the shit with them, tell a little about yourself and more importantly LISTEN to what they have to say. If they tell you so and so is no good and / or she's a horrible lay I don't care how fine she is, do NOT touch her. Let the OG's show you the lay of the land and how things work down there so you can avoid the pitfalls. Afterwards once you established a good repoire with one another ask them if they have any hunnys that they could set you up with. Let them know what your taste are and most likely they'll probably have someone for you. Now here's the thing, IF they give you a hookup listen and follow their stipulations. Don't pay more then this. CHECK. Treat her nice because she's really a good girl. CHECK. Take heed to their instructions and theyll open the flood gates to a gargantuan amount of pussy. I'm talking an abundance of fresh 21 yrs old and up of hunnies that wouldn't dare be seen walking in ahnvee for fear of being consider a hoe (a person reputation is HUGE in the DR) but on the strength of the OG monger, will come right to your door step and fuck the dog shit out of you for half the cost you're paying right now.
Because here's the thing. The guys that live down there and those that come down often has a HUGE network. I'm talking beyond ridiculous. Seriously I wouldn't be surprised if every other day a female friend offers them a new chica, or an older female they know try to hook them up with her daughter. Sister, cousins. The offer is endless. And they honestly can't handle the volume. And better yet alot of these girls are really regular girls that's just trying to find a way to make a little extra money on the side but don't want to be seen in Sosua streets for fear of a bad rep. They haven't been ran thru like your normal hardcore sosua chica that quote you in dollars. Naw instead youll be getting that old school DR tenderlove where they're not trying to leave after an hour but instead are trying to cook you breakfast in the morning, fuck you some more and afterwards tiddy up your place. Hell your new problem will be telling her ass she needs to leave LOL.
But again if you want the keys to the north coast and potentially all of DR you got to come correct. Reason why most of the OG Mongers don't share with newbies is because theyve been burnt way to many times and you got to understand when they recommend a girl or connect to you its their reputation on the line. They hook you up with a nice pretty young thing and you go mistreat her she's going back to the OG Monger and asking him wtf is wrong with that dude you set her up with. Now hes got to deal with the bullshit because he lives there meanwhile you're back at home just having finished fucking over an OG monger that was trying to put you on. So again don't be that guy.
More then likely the OG Mongers will give you a shot with a hunny just to see how you handle her. Even if she winds up not being your type when she comes to your door, decline gracefully (may have to pay a small exit fee I. E. Pay for her ride back home etc) and ask the O. G. Mongers do they have any others. Once they know you're a solid monger that's not going to F'up the connect theyll be throwing you so much good quality chicas that when you now go to ahnvee you're not going to hunt. You're going for nostalgia. Why?? Because youll have so many chicas in your database now that its re-goddamdiculous. Ahnvee will now be a memory tour of where you first started. So when a good fine chica quote you in dollars youll now be laughing in her face. Naw mami this is what I pay take it or leave it. Better yet leave it because you just showed your true colors quoting me in dollars. Fuck out of here LOL. And now while new thundercats scramble to try and find something at the end of the night youll be sipping on a presidente scrolling thru your portable roladex (cellphone) trying to figure out what late night snack (chica) youll want coming to your door for when you get back to your spot LOL.
As far as OG Mongers go that I would recommend that you should try to reach out to that live down there are Gogo, Oakie, Mani, Sir Charles. I've been reading this board since 2003 and they each have over 10 plus years of knowledge that they posted on this board alone. There are other OG Mongers like Grownman, Tom Jackin, BO, Temp, Oldkool, Brother P, Revere, Mr. E etc that don't live there but come down VERY often and have a GREAT deal of knowledge as well but IDK how long you're going to be down there so hit them up alongside with Grownman hookup. And remember time is money. So Do NOT waste the OG Mongers time. IF they accept your invitation to meet up for lunch PLEASE be there on time. Do not bring the bullshit. Hell I'm kinda sticking my own neck out a little bit because I'm revealing to you who you should try to reach out to without asking them if its cool to have you look them up first, but this site was built to help each other have a great experience when we travel to other countries. So if an OG recommended you to come holla at me in Vegas because I know the town, if I'm free I be more then happy to meet up with you and show you how to maximize your playing time while you're in town. And theyll show you the samething in Sosua.
So with that being said, don't be a cheap ass, as lunch and the the first couple rounds of presidentes are on you. Listen to the knowledge that theyre giving you, be cool and watch the floodgates of beautiful, good quality chicas at a very low cost for possibly MANY years to come be open to you.
Peace,
Coolie High.
Damn bro been almost 8 years, glad you are well. Your trip reports were always the best.
So what's the consensus on Sosua? Is it dead or is it still worth it? OGs, please correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read in the forum, it seems like the street action around spots like Classicos has been shut down. Most of the "point and click" action has been centralized in Ahnvee which, due to it's reputation, turns some girls away as they are confirmed as pros.
Prices have gone up but it's still a better deal than western countries. Quality of chicas isn't what it used to be but it's still decent.
It seems like the prevailing strategy is to get a small roster of vetted chicks prior to coming to Sosua. Either that, or hit up SD, although it seems SD isn't as easy / straightforward for a newbie.
My scenario and where I'd appreciate advice from some of the OGs: I want to come down to Sosua for about 4-5 days. I'm primarily focused on getting big booty chicas with natural asses. Some links below to the type of asses I'm talking about.
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[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn_r-T7HDiE/?hl=en[/URL]
I've never been to Sosua but I've been to other hotspots so I'm not a complete newbie. I've compiled a small roster of chicas from some colleagues but, I would still like the feel of walking around, looking at chicas and then taking my pick. From a video I've seen of Ahnvee at Super Bowl weekend, that type of place would fit my bill. Now I know SB weekend is probably the biggest weekend for P4 P in Sosua, but I'd like to believe I can still get some good action on a Thu or Fri night. I don't particularly care for a super GFE, just a chick that can perform well in the time we have together.
Any thoughts? Is the juice still worth the squeeze.
Appreciate any guidance.
Oh fuck!
Coolie High is back!
There's goes my GFE, and my stable.
He's probably fucked them all, at one time or another! Share at your peril, this guy knows how to Party in Sosua!
But seriously, how the hell are ya?
GrownMan1 and Coolie High. Thank you! I tried to sign-up. But bitcoin required 2 step auth. With cell phone. I don't have cell service here and my phone is locked so can't buy a sim card to fix that problem either. So, it looks like I'm SOL for this trip. When I get back to the States I will sign up for an account. And for sure hit you up. Just bummed I can't on this trip but only got a few days left here. Yeah, Ahnvee is getting old for me. Will look forward to new experiences in the future!
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2428439]Damn bro been almost 8 years, glad you are well. Your trip reports were always the best.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro!! Yeah it's been a min. Was really heart broken to find out my boy BQ RIbs passed away. He, Jao and others like yourself used to hit me on the back channel all the time with knowledge that I can still use to this day.
As for me unfortunately CONSTANT family obligations, a health scare (take care of yourself gents. Your health is VITAL especially as we get older) AND then out of left field getting a random call that you now have a 4 year old little mini me (daughter) to raise (did a DNA test and it came back maury style 99.99999999999 you ARE the father LOL) has kept me grounded here in the states. So I just been lying in the cut reading your stories and other OG monger stories. Not going lie its pretty awesome to see guys after all these years still post their experience and try to help folks when they honestly don't have too.
It gets real time consuming to post your adventures on here so to all those OGs like yourself that continue to share their adventures and experience on here when you've done so multiple times already, you are ALL appreciated.
Went to eat dinner tonight and there was a monger with a really nice looking girl. I'm glad I saw this because I can now verbalize what I wish I had found here in the. Are. And for that matter what I would like to find in my home country. So, what made her standout to me. A gem amoung a plethora of costume jewelry. She was dressed simply. A pair of shorts and basic black top. Nothing gawdy. She had very little makeup on. She was not constantly checking her phone. She acted attentive to her guy. She seemed to have a classy vibe but yet still seem like the girl next door. There was nothing visually fake about her.
Based on the instragrams you posted I don't think you will have a problem at Ahnvee Wed. Sat.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2428427]Peace,
Coolie High.[/QUOTE]It's been a long time my distant brother.
I have a bottle of Sambuca with your name on the damn thing!
And yes, I remember the drunken santa!
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2428688]It's been a long time my distant brother.
I have a bottle of Sambuca with your name on the damn thing!
And yes, I remember the drunken santa![/QUOTE]LOL those were GREAT memories. I missed you to my brother. Unbeknownst to you I've been reading your many adventures on the low for years now. From Colombia all the way to just recently Puerto Rico I believe, I've been seeing you still do your thing and give great intel wherever you visit.
But yeah I'm down for another round of sambuca shots even though you and I both know that it'll still taste nasty LOL. But like I told you before, Make the Call.
P.S. Ima link up with you on the back channel so we can talk. Its definitely been a min my brother.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2428494]Oh fuck!
Coolie High is back!
There's goes my GFE, and my stable.
He's probably fucked them all, at one time or another! Share at your peril, this guy knows how to Party in Sosua!
But seriously, how the hell are ya?[/QUOTE]Oakie or what Brother P just recently ordained you Obi Wan Oakie because of the wisdom you share on this form, howve you been? Everything is cool on my end just been stuck in the Matrix these past few years. From your post it seems like you're living the dream sharing the intangibles and knowledge about life in the DR. Its good to see fellow mongers like yourself and others doing their thing. I remember when you first came to the board and you were trying to figure out how you could make this vacation in DR a full time living reality and BOOM you made it happen. Now you sipping on presidentes got hunnies cooking and cleaning for you on the daily. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if you thought about actually getting a bigger bed at one point because you now have to many chicas in your bed hogging up all the covers and space LOL.
Naw but its been good to read your posts over the years. On the low you and a few others are inspiration that its possible to escape the madness of north America that we call the Matrix and live your best days later in life lounging in the carribeean. Honestly don't know when I'll next be coming back to Sosua but when I do I'll definitely hit you up so we can link up.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2428642]Based on the instragrams you posted I don't think you will have a problem at Ahnvee Wed. Sat.[/QUOTE]But are these chicas all natural? I've heard there's more and more plastic surgery going on in DR. Not a big fan.
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2428779]But are these chicas all natural? I've heard there's more and more plastic surgery going on in DR. Not a big fan.[/QUOTE]Sosua is not that kind of party. The chicks that go there can barely rub 2 pesos together. The chicks you are talking about would be found on an expensive website or high end Santo Domingo club.
IMHO, yes. I was going off your Instagram links. Based on what I saw I think you can find it. A girl with a big ass often has big tits. And a good number of these girls are not able to afford breast augmentation. But you know I can't guarantee you will like her face. Some of the cuter girls I saw did not have big tits. I saw one girl last night who was waiting for someone and she had a cute face and a big ass but her tits were small. So, I don't know if her small tits would have been a deal breaker for you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2428821]Sosua is not that kind of party. The chicks that go there can barely rub 2 pesos together. The chicks you are talking about would be found on an expensive website or high end Santo Domingo club.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Really good information to know.
Wed and Sat night at Ahnvee, noted!
[QUOTE=Newb20;2428609]Went to eat dinner tonight and there was a monger with a really nice looking girl. I'm glad I saw this because I can now verbalize what I wish I had found here in the. Are. And for that matter what I would like to find in my home country. So, what made her standout to me. A gem amoung a plethora of costume jewelry. She was dressed simply. A pair of shorts and basic black top. Nothing gawdy. She had very little makeup on. She was not constantly checking her phone. She acted attentive to her guy. She seemed to have a classy vibe but yet still seem like the girl next door. There was nothing visually fake about her.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I'm sitting in my fave tropical bar with the owner, chillin to the music, cold beer and the chatter.
In walks a big guy who looks like he's just off the plane, with a young spinner that looks like a dream. He orders a beer and asks the server for cigarettes. She shakes her head. He points to the ash trays, and goes into a loud rant about stupidness of providing ash trays but nothing to smoke. Those 3 dead TV's what are they doing? This place needs some organization. Where's the owner? Chica is cool and nobody looks at us. Give me 300 pesos she smiles, no fucking way I'll give you 300 pesos he goes. For cigarettes, she smiles. But you don't sell cigarettes he goes. But I can get them for you! She says.
He finally gets it, and she waves at the chico outside and 2 minutes later he has his cigarettes. Now he's relaxed a little and telling everybody he has 2 TVs back home, and get this, "a $8000 Lazy Boy", with a minifrig beside it, so he can watch sports any time he likes. Where do you live? She asks. Toronto, he says. Now the owner is laughing at me.
Anyway he goes on with his life story to the server, while his beautiful chica sits there the whole time looking straight ahead. Now he's warmed up to the bar chica and tells her how great she is and how she should be running the place, and when he gets ready to leave he drops a bundle on the bar. There was at least a one mil peso note. She counts it and gives it back to him. No, it's for you he says! She looks over at us hesitating, but the owner nods!
I happen to know she makes 200 pesos plus tips for an 8 to 10 hour shift, so she's happy, he's happy, his beautiful chica, not so much!
Now I'm inclined to agree, that server is damn good at her job!
Zakmo, it should read Wed. Through Saturday!
The Russian.
Never really noticed before of all my years going to the Su. But she's there and apparently gets a lot of business. I'm talking about the white Russian.
On a scale of 1 to 10 I give her a four in looks and a four in body. Definitely not my cup of tea. While observing the seen at club Anvee my man Jay ran into the white Russian. Apparently she's working in the mist of all the Spanish girls in the Sue. I also noticed all the chicas that have been working there for a while,(The ones that get a lot of business) pass by her, stop to give her respect. It's like she was the king pin of Chica's getting money. They respected her game.
My man Jay is into white girls so she was right up his alley.
Somehow they found each other which was long overdue. I overheard her saying to him guys around here don't want to pay no money. That statement alone lets me know she is not cheap. And as she talk to Jay she assured him she is there to give the guys something different. It was the first time I saw someone pass a business card for later business. Wow what professionalism! This Russian must be getting in work. Then I thought about it after going back and forth with these Dominicanas this Russian becomes prime choice for a lot of the brothers here for pay for play.
She speaks English, smart, intelligent and know how to break a man down. All she has to do is get you in her scope. The way her and Jay locked onto each other was just wonderful to watch. I wondering has anybody had any personal experience with her.
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2428445].
I want to come down to Sosua for about 4-5 days. I'm primarily focused on getting big booty chicas with natural asses[/QUOTE]Yo so I came across a NICE video thatll give you a really good idea of the type of hunnies to expect when you come to Sosua. The dude had a hidden cam during the past superbowl weekend at ahnvee. As youll notice in the vid they're more then enough natural ass, lips, hip and thighs to sow your royal oats.
Guaranteed the first night down there you'll be on sensory overload because you honestly won't know what to pick.
[URL]https://youtu.be/UfBFpcAP7Ho[/URL]
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2430478]Yo so I came across a NICE video thatll give you a really good idea of the type of hunnies to expect when you come to Sosua. The dude had a hidden cam during the past superbowl weekend at ahnvee. As youll notice in the vid they're more then enough natural ass, lips, hip and thighs to sow your royal oats.
Guaranteed the first night down there you'll be on sensory overload because you honestly won't know what to pick.
[URL]https://youtu.be/UfBFpcAP7Ho[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not sure if it's here or TMBTS but I've seen this video. Good display of talent. Curvy chicks on the slimmer side but definitely some nice booty women I'd like. This was during subperbowl weekend which is prime Sosusa season. Could / Should I expect this level of talent on a random weekend?
Other than that, I agree. First night in would definitely be sensory overload and I will definitely find the type of chicks I'll like. In that video alone I saw at least 5-6 chicas that would fit my requirements.
If Ahnvee has even half of this talent any given Wed to Saturday Night then I'm sold for my trip.
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2430481]I'm not sure if it's here or TMBTS but I've seen this video. Good display of talent. Curvy chicks on the slimmer side but definitely some nice booty women I'd like. This was during subperbowl weekend which is prime Sosusa season. Could / Should I expect this level of talent on a random weekend?
Other than that, I agree. First night in would definitely be sensory overload and I will definitely find the type of chicks I'll like. In that video alone I saw at least 5-6 chicas that would fit my requirements.
If Ahnvee has even half of this talent any given Wed to Saturday Night then I'm sold for my trip.[/QUOTE]IMHO opinion, I don't consider any of those women talent just because of their looks. Unless their performance says they are talented. That can vary from client to client, chick to chick. Here's a rhetorical question. If any chick you crack on is steadfast on, let's say $120 for an hour or 4000 for an hour, would you still go for it?
The thing is, many of these chicks look good. And many dudes assume they'll be good providers just because of their looks. But looks and actual talent based on performance can be miles apart. Are you willing to pay an inflated rate based on her looks without knowing how the chick will perform? I realize that many guys feel that it's their money, it's their vacation, they can spend their money any way they please. And it's true, they have that right.
I'm just wondering why guys are willing to agree to pay a chick more just because she looks good, but have no clue what you are really paying for? I wonder how many dudes were hyped over a chick only to find out it wasnt even worth it. There is one chick in the video I know of, looks like she had just given her number to a guy.
Chick looks good, but her ass is fake as shit. 2 dudes I know got with her, only to be totally disgusted with her. Of course YMMD is a reality. But I'm sure many of them chicks just aint worth the time or money. Thing is, we just don't know who is a good provider or not until you find out for yourself.
All in all be wise, and happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2430523]IMHO opinion, I don't consider any of those women talent just because of their looks. Unless their performance says they are talented. That can vary from client to client, chick to chick. Here's a rhetorical question. If any chick you crack on is steadfast on, let's say $120 for an hour or 4000 for an hour, would you still go for it?
The thing is, many of these chicks look good. And many dudes assume they'll be good providers just because of their looks. But looks and actual talent based on performance can be miles apart. Are you willing to pay an inflated rate based on her looks without knowing how the chick will perform? I realize that many guys feel that it's their money, it's their vacation, they can spend their money any way they please. And it's true, they have that right.
I'm just wondering why guys are willing to agree to pay a chick more just because she looks good, but have no clue what you are really paying for? I wonder how many dudes were hyped over a chick only to find out it wasnt even worth it. There is one chick in the video I know of, looks like she had just given her number to a guy.
Chick looks good, but her ass is fake as shit. 2 dudes I know got with her, only to be totally disgusted with her. Of course YMMD is a reality. But I'm sure many of them chicks just aint worth the time or money. Thing is, we just don't know who is a good provider or not until you find out for yourself.
All in all be wise, and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]You raise a really valid and interesting point. Looks are not correlated with performance. 100% agree with that statement. Only way to really judge performance is to take the plunge. Even reports from others won't suffice as what one chica may do for 1 person, is different than what she'll do with another. I think the proverbial belief is that with enough experience, one should be able to sift through the good performers from the bad, and even then it's still a crapshoot. Events like the Super Bowl in Sosua bring an influx of chicas but also an influx of get rich quick chicas that look to do the bare minimum to get their cash.
From my perspective, what I've been looking for were two things:
1. Confirmation that Sosua is still worth the journey even with all the shake up to the old scene. (From what the generous members on this forum have provided, it looks like it's still worth a trip).
2. Confirmation that Sosua had a good supply of curvy big booty chicas. (From what I've read and seen it looks like I'll have a good enough supply to make things work).
The chicas having large, natural booties is like table stakes for me. Performance would be the next thing I'd have to assess and confirm myself. All in all, looks like Sosua is still a go.
So now is the video going around of Dominican's putting beer inside of CLásicos. Then the guy comes on and said they're supposed to open up Thursday. It's all a rumor to me, however unless the constant harassment stop, even if Classico opens. The strip will not be the same. The Su has took a financial hit. Many of its regulars have discovered greener pastures in other areas around the globe. Personally I will be giving it a 2 to 3 months break.
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2430535]You raise a really valid and interesting point. Looks are not correlated with performance. 100% agree with that statement. Only way to really judge performance is to take the plunge. Even reports from others won't suffice as what one chica may do for 1 person, is different than what she'll do with another. I think the proverbial belief is that with enough experience, one should be able to sift through the good performers from the bad, and even then it's still a crapshoot. Events like the Super Bowl in Sosua bring an influx of chicas but also an influx of get rich quick chicas that look to do the bare minimum to get their cash.
From my perspective, what I've been looking for were two things:
1. Confirmation that Sosua is still worth the journey even with all the shake up to the old scene. (From what the generous members on this forum have provided, it looks like it's still worth a trip).
2. Confirmation that Sosua had a good supply of curvy big booty chicas. (From what I've read and seen it looks like I'll have a good enough supply to make things work).
The chicas having large, natural booties is like table stakes for me. Performance would be the next thing I'd have to assess and confirm myself. All in all, looks like Sosua is still a go.[/QUOTE]Zakmo, we've talked before. You would will enjoy yourself there. Sosua has the body type you like. It's not on the scale of South Africa but they are there.
Sorry for those that prefer Ahnvee (you know who I'm talking about), but the strip might be coming back to life.
[URL]https://youtu.be/3nE7qwY2K9U[/URL]
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2430862]So now is the video going around of Dominican's putting beer inside of CLsicos. Then the guy comes on and said they're supposed to open up Thursday. It's all a rumor to me, however unless the constant harassment stop, even if Classico opens. The strip will not be the same. The Su has took a financial hit. Many of its regulars have discovered greener pastures in other areas around the globe. Personally I will be giving it a 2 to 3 months break.[/QUOTE]Merengue, the downstairs bar is open now, Classicos (upstairs) will open at it's usual time.
[QUOTE=Confiable;2430892]Zakmo, we've talked before. You would will enjoy yourself there. Sosua has the body type you like. It's not on the scale of South Africa but they are there.[/QUOTE]Then your word is good. You've been to SA so you know my reference point. Sosua looks like it'll be worth it then. Posters also pointing out that some of the old strip will be coming back to life.
Should be a nice, quick trip.
[QUOTE=Zakmo;2431028]Then your word is good. You've been to SA so you know my reference point. Sosua looks like it'll be worth it then. Posters also pointing out that some of the old strip will be coming back to life.[/QUOTE]The old town is buzzing tonight. Lots of mongers in town and posted up at old Rumba. Everybody yelling. Enough chicas strolling by to make the view pleasant. Meringue is open now and Classico is supposed to open tomorrow. No cops yet. Europa and the nearby local bars are crowded, Europa has a new balcony bar facing the once dead street, and guys are making business with the local chicas.
I suppose it's business as usual up in the Ahnvee area too, lots of moto traffic going up there tonight.
First time in a while I sensed the old "vibe". LOL.
Problem now is which part of town you want to be partying in. In the good old days, there was just the strip so you never missed anything!
New Clasicos.
[URL]https://streamable.com/la3hl[/URL]
Check that last post, "no cops"!
Sitting at Rosa's, leaning over to chat with an old SW pal, joking about the change she owes me from a couple years ago, when I gave her 200 p to buy food, and her new protoge, a pretty little spinner looking all of 18.
Up comes 2 young cops on a moto, grabs the young one, and takes her off, laughing all the time. Poor kid looks scared. We all yell and boo!
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2431927]New Clasicos.
[URL]https://streamable.com/la3hl[/URL][/QUOTE]Wooou she is so hot!! What club is it? Clasicos is the name? I'll visit DR in 2 weeks, right now I am in Costa Rica, hor chicks around here as well.
[QUOTE=Darelax;2432680]Wooou she is so hot!! What club is it? Clasicos is the name? I'll visit DR in 2 weeks, right now I am in Costa Rica, hor chicks around here as well.[/QUOTE]To stay in line with the monger monitors here, the correct name is Club 59.
But ask the moto to take you to Classico. He's not as politically correct! Lo.
[QUOTE=Darelax;2432680]Wooou she is so hot!! What club is it? Clasicos is the name? I'll visit DR in 2 weeks, right now I am in Costa Rica, hor chicks around here as well.[/QUOTE]LOL. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beerholder. They just look like some normal ass chicks. Not saying they look bad, but I would not call them so hot!
[QUOTE=Darelax;2432680]Wooou she is so hot!! What club is it? Clasicos is the name? I'll visit DR in 2 weeks, right now I am in Costa Rica, hor chicks around here as well.[/QUOTE]You got to be packin legit and have a strong back for that joint. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2432947]You got to be packin legit and have a strong back for that joint. Good luck![/QUOTE]That's from around 2012 or so. She would have to pay YOU for sex now! LOL!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2432890]LOL. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beerholder. They just look like some normal ass chicks. Not saying they look bad, but I would not call them so hot![/QUOTE]Man,
I was thinking the same thing. I was like "I'm not hopping on a plane for that!" I've got thots up the block that look hotter!
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2430478]Yo so I came across a NICE video thatll give you a really good idea of the type of hunnies to expect when you come to Sosua. The dude had a hidden cam during the past superbowl weekend at ahnvee. As youll notice in the vid they're more then enough natural ass, lips, hip and thighs to sow your royal oats.
Guaranteed the first night down there you'll be on sensory overload because you honestly won't know what to pick.
[URL]https://youtu.be/UfBFpcAP7Ho[/URL][/QUOTE]1. Just goes to show how the dynamics are completely flipped overseas. In the US, this would be a line of thirsty dudes waiting to get in the club with security trying to ensure the place doesn't turn into a sausage-fest.
2. In all my years traveling to Colombia I have yet to come across the chick in the yellow at 16:09 in the video. I may have to double back for that bird!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2432989]That's from around 2012 or so. She would have to pay YOU for sex now! LOL![/QUOTE]The guy commented on the vid I posted and liked what he saw. The vid I posted was just the other day in Clasicos so obviously the guy liked what he sees. I doubt she would have to pay him?
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2432947]You got to be packin legit and have a strong back for that joint. Good luck![/QUOTE]These are the kind of booties I'll be hunting for when I get to Sosua in a couple of weeks. On the bigger side, however.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2433039]The guy commented on the vid I posted and liked what he saw. The vid I posted was just the other day in Clasicos so obviously the guy liked what he sees. I doubt she would have to pay him?[/QUOTE]I didn't see the video bruh. I'm talking about the pic you posted of the girl. I won't say her name online. That pic was from around 2012 or 13. She's big as a house now bruh.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2432803]To stay in line with the monger monitors here, the correct name is Club 59.
But ask the moto to take you to Classico. He's not as politically correct! Lo.[/QUOTE]Great Oakie, then I'll ask for the Club 59!
I don't understand what you say about the moto, but maybe you mean the taxi?
[QUOTE=Darelax;2433386]Great Oakie, then I'll ask for the Club 59!
I don't understand what you tabout the moto, but maybe you mean the taxi?[/QUOTE]No, I meant the motococho (motorcycle) service that most locals use locally.
There was a conversation on this forum recently about how the bar names can change overnight (hotels too) so the locals are more familiar with the traditional names.
But King's will be Rumba and Club 59 will be Classicos to locals for a while yet.
Best to go with the flow and not argue about it.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2433169]I didn't see the video bruh. I'm talking about the pic you posted of the girl. I won't say her name online. That pic was from around 2012 or 13. She's big as a house now bruh.[/QUOTE]The guy responded to the recent video I posted. He liked how she looks now. I posted the pic so he could see the box.
Willy is our new Mayor!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2435071]Willy is our new Mayor![/QUOTE]I'm curious to see what impact this will have on the main strip.
Girls can rest thier pussies for a few months.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2435276]Girls can rest thier pussies for a few months.[/QUOTE]You don't think Dominican guys like to fuck?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2435071]Willy is our new Mayor![/QUOTE]I also just seen news of a new mayor in Sosua. They said he runs Classicos, and Merengue Bar or something. He won't be in office until August though. I imagine things will get better for "the hobby".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2435337]You don't think Dominican guys like to fuck?[/QUOTE]Hell no! They just wait for us Gringos for sex.
OR maybe money?
It's not our turn!
[QUOTE=TruLife;2435229]I'm curious to see what impact this will have on the main strip.[/QUOTE]In the last week we have seen Classico and Merengue bar re-open. The old Burbon Street place is under renovation, but we'll see what shape that will take.
The upstairs disco at Ahnvee has shut down.
So we should see more action back down town.
[URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32224[/URL]
Puerto Plata. - A 22-year-old foreigner was detained yesterday by the authorities in a rural area of this city and was isolated for being suspected of carrying the coronavirus.
This is the American citizen James Walter V. Duncan, who was arrested this Monday afternoon on the road that leads to the El Cupey section.
Said foreigner, native of Oklahoma, supposedly "escaped" from the Ricardo Limardo University Teaching Hospital of this city where he had gone after presenting health problems and symptoms similar to COVID-19.
The aforementioned citizen had come to the country as a tourist and after going to the State health center in this town, he inexplicably managed to slip away on Sunday morning.
It was also confirmed that agents from the Specialized Tourist Security Corps (CESTUR) and medical epidemiologists arrested Duncan when he was driving the wine-red Suzuki model Swift, plate A829867.
So far, the Public Health authorities in Puerto Plata have not issued any statement in this regard, although unofficially it was specified that the foreigner is isolated under surveillance in the local hospital.
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2435348]I also just seen news of a new mayor in Sosua. They said he runs Classicos, and Merengue Bar or something. He won't be in office until August though. I imagine things will get better for "the hobby".[/QUOTE]Willy didn't just beat Ilana, he destroyed her. If I'm reading these results correctly (see attached picture), he trounced her 61 percent to 34 percent. And that is exactly what needed to happen. Anyone thinking about running for Mayor of Sosua in the future and adopting Ilana's failed policies of closing bars and restaurants simply because of who is sitting inside or standing out front and having the police chase girls down Pedro Clisante and arrest them simply because of what they're wearing will now likely think twice. Here's the "official" story from Sosua News:
[URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5850&article=1[/URL]
On a side note, welcome back, Gagoo. It's been over two years since you last wrote a report / comment.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2435529]On a side note, welcome back, Gagoo. It's been over two years since you last wrote a report / comment.[/QUOTE]Because of Gagoo I am the man that I am today. We were riding around Santo Domingo and he showed me about using GPS on my phone. But the thing is, I didn't know I was supposed to select an internet plan. So my credit kept running out quickly. That must have been 10 or so years ago. Now I have been all around the country 50 times over using the GPS.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2433419]No, I meant the motococho (motorcycle) service that most locals use locally.
There was a conversation on this forum recently about how the bar names can change overnight (hotels too) so the locals are more familiar with the traditional names.
But King's will be Rumba and Club 59 will be Classicos to locals for a while yet.
Best to go with the flow and not argue about it.[/QUOTE]Ohh thanks for the update Oakie!
I might cancel my drip because covid-19, lets see in the next days!
[QUOTE=Revere;2435501][URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32224[/URL]
Puerto Plata. - A 22-year-old foreigner was detained yesterday by the authorities in a rural area of this city and was isolated for being suspected of carrying the coronavirus.
This is the American citizen James Walter V. Duncan, who was arrested this Monday afternoon on the road that leads to the El Cupey section.
Said foreigner, native of Oklahoma, supposedly "escaped" from the Ricardo Limardo University Teaching Hospital of this city where he had gone after presenting health problems and symptoms similar to COVID-19.
The aforementioned citizen had come to the country as a tourist and after going to the State health center in this town, he inexplicably managed to slip away on Sunday morning.
It was also confirmed that agents from the Specialized Tourist Security Corps (CESTUR) and medical epidemiologists arrested Duncan when he was driving the wine-red Suzuki model Swift, plate A829867.
So far, the Public Health authorities in Puerto Plata have not issued any statement in this regard, although unofficially it was specified that the foreigner is isolated under surveillance in the local hospital.[/QUOTE]That's my worry, that somehow this will be twisted to blame the monger. A major flareup in Sosua and we become suspect.
For my monger brothers please take this isolated downtime to better your Spanish and Latin dance. We will see a recovery in a few months and we will be back to normal.
I'm practicing self distancing and that is even from pussy and my girl. Time to lay low and ride this out.
To my brothers who still say this is a hoax, good luck.
[QUOTE=Darelax;2435541]Ohh thanks for the update Oakie!
I might cancel my drip because covid-19, lets see in the next days![/QUOTE]Cancel it!
For 15 days. No bars open!
1. National Emergency Declaration to be approved by Congress.
2. Land, sea and air ports are closed for 15 days.
3. Only flights coming to pick up foreigners to return these to their countries of origin, and fuel tankers are allowed.
4. Classes inside schools and universities are to close until 13 April. Virtual classes may continue.
5. Events and gatherings of people of any kind are banned for the next 15 days.
6. Restaurants and food businesses are only allowed to remain open for delivery services.
7. Flea markets are banned from operation countrywide and at the border.
8. All political events and campaigning is suspended, including public work inaugurations.
9. Only grocery shops, supermarkets, pharmacies, gas stations, hospitals and medical labs are allowed to remain open. All other businesses should suspend all activities.
See more at DRI News.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2435547]That's my worry, that somehow this will be twisted to blame the monger. A major flareup in Sosua and we become suspect.
For my monger brothers please take this isolated downtime to better your Spanish and Latin dance. We will see a recovery in a few months and we will be back to normal.
I'm practicing self distancing and that is even from pussy and my girl. Time to lay low and ride this out.
To my brothers who still say this is a hoax, good luck.[/QUOTE]For a little perspective:
No. of DR HIV cases, 67,000.
No. of Coronavirus cases, 34.
Always a good idea to stay safe!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2435540]Because of Gagoo I am the man that I am today. We were riding around Santo Domingo and he showed me about using GPS on my phone. But the thing is, I didn't know I was supposed to select an internet plan. So my credit kept running out quickly. That must have been 10 or so years ago. Now I have been all around the country 50 times over using the GPS.[/QUOTE]If there is a country in the world that few people know about and that even fewer people can find on a map without the assistance of Google, Gagoo has not only been there but has also written a mongering report about it here on ISG. We need more ISG members like him on this website.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2435555]Cancel it!
For 15 days. No bars open!
1. National Emergency Declaration to be approved by Congress.
2. Land, sea and air ports are closed for 15 days.
3. Only flights coming to pick up foreigners to return these to their countries of origin, and fuel tankers are allowed.
4. Classes inside schools and universities are to close until 13 April. Virtual classes may continue.
5. Events and gatherings of people of any kind are banned for the next 15 days.
6. Restaurants and food businesses are only allowed to remain open for delivery services.
7. Flea markets are banned from operation countrywide and at the border.
8. All political events and campaigning is suspended, including public work inaugurations.
9. Only grocery shops, supermarkets, pharmacies, gas stations, hospitals and medical labs are allowed to remain open. All other businesses should suspend all activities.
See more at DRI News.[/QUOTE]I have definitely canceled it. Thanks for the tips Oakie.
For 15 days. No bars open! - maybe more than 15 days.
I'll keep surfing the internet, from far. Cheers mate!
[QUOTE=Darelax;2435835]I have definitely canceled it. Thanks for the tips Oakie.
For 15 days. No bars open! - maybe more than 15 days.
[/QUOTE]Are you going for the bars or the pussy? Because they are not mutually exclusive.
A buddy of mine said his friend was on the flight to DR from Miami a couple of days ago and they came on the plane and made everyone that did not have a Dominican passport get off.
Looks like you did not have to cancel. They were going to cancel it for you.
[url]https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news-alerts/324376/dominican-republic-government-to-suspend-inbound-air-and-sea-transport-due-to-covid-19-march-19-update-1[/url]
Hey guys,
I heard that Sosua prices for the women are going up. I was wondering since you know I'm sort of a cheapscape could I just bang a chick and dip or give her less for what she asked? I know what your thinking but I don't want to pay those expensive prices. Anyway that's all I got thanks.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2435952]Hey guys,
I heard that Sosua prices for the women are going up. I was wondering since you know I'm sort of a cheapscape could I just bang a chick and dip or give her less for what she asked? I know what your thinking but I don't want to pay those expensive prices. Anyway that's all I got thanks.[/QUOTE]You might want to get updated on DR news. The streets of Sosua are basically dead for now.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2435952]Hey guys,
I heard that Sosua prices for the women are going up. I was wondering since you know I'm sort of a cheapscape could I just bang a chick and dip or give her less for what she asked? I know what your thinking but I don't want to pay those expensive prices. Anyway that's all I got thanks.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't listen to what you heard. It's not exactly etched in stone for every female. Although prices for women anywhere in the world generally goes up. But bear in mind, the exchange rates for foreigners have gone up as well. Thats why it's best to stick to paying with pesos. I dont even entertain a chica talking US dollars.
Also negotiating has always been available. One key to the game is to avoid asking these women how much they want. Because when you do that, they will surely come up with a ridiculous price. Think you are green or don't know any better. Hoping you are a client that may be willing to pay big bucks. But for enough providers, if you initiate an offer that is reasonable to you (that is very hard for some guys, because they do not want to offend the chick) , and she finds it's reasonable as well, then you both have a meeting of the minds.
A lot depends on the chica you approach. Her perceived quality. Time of day / night. The day of the week. Expect chicas to want to make top dollar on the weekends, but be more flexible on Monday thru Thurs. A dude can be flexible too. What also matters is how she perceives her client. YMMD.
So what I suggest for some cats, is if you see a chica you like who may quote top dollar (and you aint down for that) tell her to contact you when she aint busy for the price you are willing to pay. Don't waste time, move on to the next. One monkey don't stop the show. When things are slow for her, she may reach out on Whatsapp to see if you are still interested. By then you may or may not be interested.
Currently, with the country wide (Dominican Republic) restrictions in place, unless you are already in the DR, don't worry about chicas for a while. Sosua looks like a ghost town. Remember, most people that work or hustle in Sosua do not live in Sosua. So with most of the businesses closed. Tourists severely depleted. No flights (weekend warriors etc) coming in or leaving.
There is almost no reason for most locals to flock to Sosua to work / hustle unless it's an essential business (you know what I mean, of a non sexual nature you Silly Rabbit). And many of the chicks that you may see walking around, look like Wanda that short veteran chica, , or that Big ass begging chick with the bad eye. There is no real incentive for many regular chicks to be hanging around Sosua.
About the best place to find chicks is on the beach in the day time (and now, I'm not sure that is a reality as of today?). After that, you better have some numbers. Because you won't see any chicks out walking around worth dealing with.
But like I said in the beginning, if you arent already in the DR, it may be awhile before you see flights coming and going. In order for flights to work, you have to have bans lifted in both directions. And the airlines willing to fly to your destinations. FYI, I went to The Tree House TWO next to Las Palmeras Hotel to get a meal for take out. Thats all you can get right now, take out or delivery if the restaurant offers it. Most restaurants around town were completely closed. Aris Restaurant #67 on the beach told me by text that he may open tomorrow. (he was closed today due to rain.) Which means you can go to his place for take out, or have him deliver to your place. My guess other restaurants that are open may be offering take out as well?
But if they don't get enough orders, then my guess is they'll just close up. Supposedly after 15 days all non essential businesses nationwide (in the DR) will be allowed to re open and schools resume classes. But no one knows if that will happen. Or officials may change up and impose more or prolonged restrictions. To be continued.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2435952]Hey guys,
I heard that Sosua prices for the women are going up. I was wondering since you know I'm sort of a cheapscape could I just bang a chick and dip or give her less for what she asked? I know what your thinking but I don't want to pay those expensive prices. Anyway that's all I got thanks.[/QUOTE]I would say why not, since they will usually bang you then tell you that you have to pay more than what they asked for. But then again, where are you going to dip to since it is your fucking room?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2435991]I would say why not, since they will usually bang you then tell you that you have to pay more than what they asked for. But then again, where are you going to dip to since it is your fucking room?[/QUOTE]Okay so check it I have two places. One place to bang chicks and another place to sleep and shower. So when I'm going to find chicks on the strip I'll bring them to my spot for to plow them. After I'll just kick them out and leave to my other spot and repeat.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436229]Okay so check it I have two places. One place to bang chicks and another place to sleep and shower. So when I'm going to find chicks on the strip I'll bring them to my spot for to plow them. After I'll just kick them out and leave to my other spot and repeat.[/QUOTE]Do it! Let us know how it goes. If we don't hear back from you, we'll try not to assume the worst, LOL!
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436229]Okay so check it I have two places. One place to bang chicks and another place to sleep and shower. So when I'm going to find chicks on the strip I'll bring them to my spot for to plow them. After I'll just kick them out and leave to my other spot and repeat.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are not so smart after all.
1. Why do you want to go around ripping off some of the poorest people in the world? If your boss had you come in to work, then on payday he said take your ass home, I'm not giving you shit, then what?
2. You must not realize how small Sosua is.
3. Maybe you have not read the fucking forum. Sosua chicks are known to go get the police to get more money out of you even when you have given them what you agreed on. You are talking about giving them less or nothing, then the hammer will really come down heavy on you. Prostitution is legal there. So what you are talking about doing is the same as walking into a store stealing. And in some cases it would also be considered as r@pe.
4. If you are going to pay for an extra room to hide from people that you are ripping off, wouldn't it make more sense to skip the flophouse and use that money to pay the people so you wouldn't need the flophouse to begin with?
You are using all this energy to think of ways to flim flam and get yourself in hot water or even killed, when it is so much simpler and easier to do the right thing and get it over with and have a good time. People go to Sosua to relax and get away from the stress. Seems you are going in order to stress yourself out.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436303]Maybe you are not so smart after all.
1. Why do you want to go around ripping off some of the poorest people in the world? If your boss had you come in to work, then on payday he said take your ass home, I'm not giving you shit, then what?
2. You must not realize how small Sosua is.
3. Maybe you have not read the fucking forum. Sosua chicks are known to go get the police to get more money out of you even when you have given them what you agreed on. You are talking about giving them less or nothing, then the hammer will really come down heavy on you. Prostitution is legal there. So what you are talking about doing is the same as walking into a store stealing. And in some cases it would also be considered as r@pe.
4. If you are going to pay for an extra room to hide from people that you are ripping off, wouldn't it make more sense to skip the flophouse and use that money to pay the people so you wouldn't need the flophouse to begin with?
You are using all this energy to think of ways to flim flam and get yourself in hot water or even killed, when it is so much simpler and easier to do the right thing and get it over with and have a good time. People go to Sosua to relax and get away from the stress. Seems you are going in order to stress yourself out.[/QUOTE]First of all bro I'm not obligated to give any chick my hard earned money okay. Second of all it's not are at pe because there's no feminism or #metoo in the DR so yeah. Third I'll just pay the cops off. The DR police are corrupt and lazy so save the righteous why'all for a guy who cares .
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436310]...Third I'll just pay the cops off. The DR police are ....[/QUOTE]Tell us how that works out for you.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436310]First of all bro I'm not obligated to give any chick my hard earned money okay. [/QUOTE]Uhh. If you use their services as hookers you are. Now we see why some chicks insist on being paid first.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436229]Okay so check it I have two places. One place to bang chicks and another place to sleep and shower. So when I'm going to find chicks on the strip I'll bring them to my spot for to plow them. After I'll just kick them out and leave to my other spot and repeat.[/QUOTE]No point man. Just more hassle than it's worth. Prices have gone up but it's still heads and toes better than what you get in the West. If you got to get to Sosua and start scamming then might as well just stay home and save yourself the headache.
[QUOTE=BigBootyLover9;2436310]First of all bro I'm not obligated to give any chick my hard earned money okay. Second of all it's not are at pe because there's no feminism or #metoo in the DR so yeah. Third I'll just pay the cops off. The DR police are corrupt and lazy so save the righteous why'all for a guy who cares .[/QUOTE]We come to have fun bruh. If you look for trouble you will definitely find it. It's not worth it.
Furthermore, you don't have to pay high prices. Many chicas will happily go with you for 250 pesos. Negotiate prices and services before you go to the room. Enjoy and pay the chica. Relax and enjoy.
I'm sure enough of you are aware that President Medina in the DR imposed a 8 pm to 6 am curfew for the entire country. Only essential personnel, people out seeking medical care etc are allowed to be out during curfew. This is supposed to last until April 3rd.
Starting March 22 you cannot get into Philippines unless you are married to Filipina. Shut down for all tourists. Same rules as Sosua. Bars and discos closed. Take out only at restaurants. Markets and banks open. My buddy said there are only a few girls walking around. Place is dead. Since the restrictions were put into effect 10 days ago. We shall see what happens in a few week. I was going to fly to the Philippines next Tuesday. I still have ticket for April 21.
Philippines calls it enhanced quarantine. Its martial law. Must stay in. Road blocks in Manila and other cities.
Hoping March 29 is a good day when the mayor race is certified.
[QUOTE=MikeM488;2436437]Starting March 22 you cannot get into Philippines unless you are married to Filipina. Shut down for all tourists. Same rules as Sosua. Bars and discos closed. Take out only at restaurants. Markets and banks open. My buddy said there are only a few girls walking around. Place is dead. Since the restrictions were put into effect 10 days ago. We shall see what happens in a few week. I was going to fly to the Philippines next Tuesday. I still have ticket for April 21.
Philippines calls it enhanced quarantine. Its martial law. Must stay in. Road blocks in Manila and other cities.
Hoping March 29 is a good day when the mayor race is certified.[/QUOTE]When the travel bans were put in place and airlines reduced or stopped their flights, that essentially stopped foreigners from coming in anyway. What you don't want to see, is foreigners already living there or staying in place being forced to leave. That would be some very harsh news.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2436439]When the travel bans were put in place and airlines reduced or stopped their flights, that essentially stopped foreigners from coming in anyway. What you don't want to see, is foreigners already living there or staying in place being forced to leave. That would be some very harsh news.[/QUOTE]Some countries are beginning to ban their citizens from returning home.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2436439]What you don't want to see, is foreigners already living there or staying in place being forced to leave. That would be some very harsh news.[/QUOTE]Was discussing that in the Philippines thread the other day when a guy insisted he is going to buy a condo there. No way I would buy something overseas. I can leave these clothes, TV, and motorbike in my rented place in Thailand at the drop of a hat and say what a good run I had. But if I done bought some big ticket stuff like a condo and was forced to leave, my heart would be hurting like a mf.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2436439]When the travel bans were put in place and airlines reduced or stopped their flights, that essentially stopped foreigners from coming in anyway. What you don't want to see, is foreigners already living there or staying in place being forced to leave. That would be some very harsh news.[/QUOTE]That would be harsh. I doubt it will happen because unlike many Dominicans, the foreigners will still have money to spend. If they can't let flights in its going to get ugly fast. The retirees will be holding the north coast up!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2436524]That would be harsh. I doubt it will happen because unlike many Dominicans, the foreigners will still have money to spend. If they can't let flights in its going to get ugly fast. The retirees will be holding the north coast up![/QUOTE]The problem for non citizens is getting back into their own country, not forced eviction.
Airline dislocation, entry and quarantine restrictions can make it difficult, and costly, for casual visitors to get home.
But for residents here, the weather's good most days and the store shelves are full of fresh food, beer and liquor. Folks here know how to take care of themselves and their families, without much government help.
Not a bad place at all to ride out this storm. Better than most from what I'm hearing back home.
How do you say "Friends with benefits" in Spanish. I think it is "Ficante or Amante" in Portuguese, but how can I say it in Spanish?
[QUOTE=Bravo;2437524]How do you say "Friends with benefits" in Spanish. I think it is "Ficante or Amante" in Portuguese, but how can I say it in Spanish?[/QUOTE]Amigas con derechos.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2436455]Some countries are beginning to ban their citizens from returning home.[/QUOTE]This can't be true, which countries are doing this?
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2437527]Amigas con derechos.[/QUOTE]Why not Amigos con beneficios? I've been using this. Am I saying it wrong.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2437551]Why not Amigos con beneficios? I've been using this. Am I saying it wrong.[/QUOTE]You are translating word for word. Many phrases in Spanish don't follow that format.
[URL]https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amigos_con_derechos[/URL]
[QUOTE=RunMann;2437531]This can't be true, which countries are doing this?[/QUOTE]Colombia is now banning citizens too besides foreigners.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2437531]This can't be true, which countries are doing this?[/QUOTE]Trinidad and Tobago has also banned its citizens from returning home.
[QUOTE=TomJackin;2437566]You are translating word for word. Many phrases in Spanish don't follow that format.
[URL]https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amigos_con_derechos[/URL][/QUOTE]You can also use Follamigos (literally fuck-friends).
[QUOTE=HSendatsu;2437683]You can also use Follamigos (literally fuck-friends).[/QUOTE]Also: amigovios, amigos con derecho a roce o follamigos (the last one is 100% from Spain).
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2436427]I'm sure enough of you are aware that President Medina in the DR imposed a 8 pm to 6 am curfew for the entire country. Only essential personnel, people out seeking medical care etc are allowed to be out during curfew. This is supposed to last until April 3rd.[/QUOTE]Did they recently change it from 5 PM to 6 AM?
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2436427]I'm sure enough of you are aware that President Medina in the DR imposed a 8 pm to 6 am curfew for the entire country. Only essential personnel, people out seeking medical care etc are allowed to be out during curfew. This is supposed to last until April 3rd.[/QUOTE]Can mongering be classified as medically necessary to relieve stress?
[QUOTE=Bravo;2437971]Did they recently change it from 5 PM to 6 AM?[/QUOTE]Yes effective today (Friday).
[QUOTE=Bravo;2437971]Did they recently change it from 5 PM to 6 AM?[/QUOTE]Ozzie is correct. The new curfew hours country wide is 5 pm to 6 am. Around 4 pm I was near Las Palmeras hotel today, and saw PN police in their pick up truck loaded with men with rifles. They've been circling around Sosua a lot. I was told by someone a few Haitians went into a restaurant in Sosua and menaced the worker inside, and demanded food. If that person made a report to the police, I'm sure that's one more reason patrols during and beyond curfew would step up. I still hear motos every now and then, going up and down one of the back streets near where I live (during curfew), and they arent police.
Hey guys,
I'm going to sosua once all this you know what blows over and I wanted to go down and film big booty chicas for my amateur porn adventures. I was wondering do you think the chicas will be down if so how much pesos do I think it will run me?
I know you guys know Toticos LOL but they kind of faded out.
[QUOTE=Bootycrusher;2438686]Hey guys,
I'm going to sosua once all this you know what blows over and I wanted to go down and film big booty chicas for my amateur porn adventures. I was wondering do you think the chicas will be down if so how much pesos do I think it will run me?
I know you guys know Toticos LOL but they kind of faded out.[/QUOTE]Taking couple of pictures is one thing. But to use them for porn videos is totally different. You might be in legal trouble. Maybe better to hire a lawyer and sign agreement with the chica in question.
Sometimes as a BM you should just add a poster to your Ignore List. Always recognize a troll, don't feed them. Hopefully moderators act swiftly to ban any resurfacing fuckturd.
A couple observations, and a word of caution.
Sosua, and perhaps the DR in general, has become a more dangerous place as the Covid restrictions get tighter.
The ladies are off the streets and back home hunkered down with family and friends. They are surviving and not going hungry.
There are a lot of young guys however on the streets, who normally make their living off tourists. As the tourists have disappeared, so has the money. I'm stopped every day on my walk, by some I know and some I don't. They are hungry and getting desperate. Selling everything they can for food, and whatever else they need. Old used facemasks and gloves, even old TVs and phones. It's the guys now, not chicas who are asking for money for milk and food for their kids.
It's good there is a curfew, as going out on the street at night could be more dangerous to your health than the virus. But at the same time it adds to the general pent up desperation for some.
There are no newbies to worry about anymore, but we expats need to be extra aware of the potential for trouble, as long as this dire situation lasts.
So as long as you stay safe, the weather's good, there's wi fi to keep in touch with "loved ones" (but no public transport to bring them in) there's food at the supermercado, and it's not the worst place to be in an emergency!
Be smart!
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2437572]Colombia is now banning citizens too besides foreigners.[/QUOTE]Also the land borders with Ecuador, Brazil and Peru will be closed.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2438785]A couple observations, and a word of caution.
Sosua, and perhaps the DR in general, has become a more dangerous place as the Covid restrictions get tighter.
The ladies are off the streets and back home hunkered down with family and friends. They are surviving and not going hungry.
There are a lot of young guys however on the streets, who normally make their living off tourists. As the tourists have disappeared, so has the money. I'm stopped every day on my walk, by some I know and some I don't. They are hungry and getting desperate. Selling everything they can for food, and whatever else they need. Old used facemasks and gloves, even old TVs and phones. It's the guys now, not chicas who are asking for money for milk and food for their kids.
It's good there is a curfew, as going out on the street at night could be more dangerous to your health than the virus. But at the same time it adds to the general pent up desperation for some.
There are no newbies to worry about anymore, but we expats need to be extra aware of the potential for trouble, as long as this dire situation lasts.
So as long as you stay safe, the weather's good, there's wi fi to keep in touch with "loved ones" (but no public transport to bring them in) there's food at the supermercado, and it's not the worst place to be in an emergency!
Be smart![/QUOTE]Someone needed to hear that bruh! You kept it actual and factual without being overly dramatic. Well done!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2438903]Someone needed to hear that bruh! You kept it actual and factual without being overly dramatic. Well done![/QUOTE]Great report.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2438903]Someone needed to hear that bruh! You kept it actual and factual without being overly dramatic. Well done![/QUOTE]Thanks BrotherP.
I don't put down the locals. I grew up poor with a single mom in UK after the war and us kids used to go out and "forage" for firewood, apples and veggies from rich folk's gardens, and whatever we could pilfer from Woolworths without getting caught! When you're hungry the rules change.
That's why I live here, I can relate.
When they see an old fart gringo with two young hookers in tow, coming back from SuperPolo, loaded down with grocery bags full of liquor, beer and chips, and the kids at home are hungry, I know that "feeling".
The other thing is, I'm still on moderation here, from the old flame wars we used to have here, so my info is at least a day old, by the time it appears here!
But all things pass, what goes up must come down, so here's hoping it's not too long before you're planning your next trip!
Salud!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2439069] When you're hungry the rules change. That's why I live here, I can relate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, disarming and in a way altruistic, with a personal anecdote.
The Official curfew is from 5 pm to 6 am, but all shops and businesses close up at 3 pm to allow everybody to get home and off the streets by 6.
That said, unofficially you get still get a beer in the back room of the take out bars, or a haircut, behind the curtains.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2439069]Thanks BrotherP.
I don't put down the locals. I grew up poor with a single mom in UK after the war and us kids used to go out and "forage" for firewood, apples and veggies from rich folk's gardens, and whatever we could pilfer from Woolworths without getting caught! When you're hungry the rules change.
That's why I live here, I can relate.
When they see an old fart gringo with two young hookers in tow, coming back from SuperPolo, loaded down with grocery bags full of liquor, beer and chips, and the kids at home are hungry, I know that "feeling".
The other thing is, I'm still on moderation here, from the old flame wars we used to have here, so my info is at least a day old, by the time it appears here!
But all things pass, what goes up must come down, so here's hoping it's not too long before you're planning your next trip!
Salud![/QUOTE]Very well said.
Hey guys,
I'm 21 years old new to the forums and when this whole you know what blows over I wanted to go to Sosua for the first time. I'm tired of the matrix and want to experience something new. So any way I wanted to know how much to do anything you want to a chica BBFS, bbj ect. Also money is no issue so. Anyway thanks and hoping to share more in the forums.
[QUOTE=Ohsowavy1;2440920]Hey guys,
I'm 21 years old new to the forums and when this whole you know what blows over I wanted to go to Sosua for the first time. I'm tired of the matrix and want to experience something new. So any way I wanted to know how much to do anything you want to a chica BBFS, bbj ect. Also money is no issue so. Anyway thanks and hoping to share more in the forums.[/QUOTE]Since you have plenty of time, I’d suggest reading the forum in depth. Information on what people paid is there. It's not very expensive. The norm for many years is the Dominican peso equivalent of about $40-$60. The quality of a sexual experience can vary enormously though while it's still described the same way. My POV is that this is a relationship even it's it's brief. I personally like to be selective and hang out with the same Chica repeatedly if it's good and politely move on if it's not.
Dominican and Haitian girls who do pay for play vary a lot more than girls in the US. They're not all doing drugs. Many are ordinary girls trying to take care of their kids and get along. Treating them with respect and treating the interaction more like courtship and dating rather than a hard core business transaction may produce much better experiences. This is especially natural for you since they're your age. Small gifts, taking them out for meals, being interested in them, showing respect will improve your sexual experiences more than paying a lot more. If you find a Chica who appeals to you and treat her well likely she will work at finding out what most pleases you and doing her best to provide it.
[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;2441199]Dominican and Haitian girls who do pay for play vary a lot more than girls in the US. They're not all doing drugs. Many are ordinary girls trying to take care of their kids and get along. Treating them with respect and treating the interaction more like courtship and dating rather than a hard core business transaction may produce much better experiences. [/QUOTE]Excellent advice! Kudos.
[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;2441199]Since you have plenty of time, Id suggest reading the forum in depth. Information on what people paid is there. It's not very expensive. The norm for many years is the Dominican peso equivalent of about $40-$60. The quality of a sexual experience can vary enormously though while it's still described the same way. My POV is that this is a relationship even it's it's brief. I personally like to be selective and hang out with the same Chica repeatedly if it's good and politely move on if it's not.
Dominican and Haitian girls who do pay for play vary a lot more than girls in the US. They're not all doing drugs. Many are ordinary girls trying to take care of their kids and get along. Treating them with respect and treating the interaction more like courtship and dating rather than a hard core business transaction may produce much better experiences. This is especially natural for you since they're your age. Small gifts, taking them out for meals, being interested in them, showing respect will improve your sexual experiences more than paying a lot more. If you find a Chica who appeals to you and treat her well likely she will work at finding out what most pleases you and doing her best to provide it.[/QUOTE]I like your style. Yes, we have it better than they do. Most of the chicas I run into do not do drugs. They want to get money in the only way that is available to them. So I much respect the man who treats these women with respect and takes care of their immediate needs. They WILL treat you right if YOU treat them right. Yes, there are the hardcore girls out there and I don't partake of their time, not worth it to me. When this crisis is over we will have some good times ahead of us. Treat them' like a lady fellas' or don't touch them' at all. Keep the keepers and diss the troublemakers. Great report.
Peace,
[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;2441199]Small gifts, taking them out for meals, being interested in them, showing respect will improve your sexual experiences more than paying a lot more. If you find a Chica who appeals to you and treat her well likely she will work at finding out what most pleases you and doing her best to provide it.[/QUOTE]So true. But not is the Su!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2442017]So true. But not is the Su![/QUOTE]Sorry I'm going through withdrawals I meant not in the Su!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2442017]So true. But not is the Su![/QUOTE]For sure the sue is rougher than it was back in 2012-15 or so. Back then good, unrushed service was the norm. Now it isn't like that overall. Price and service switching were becoming more the norm before Corona. I expect it will be worse after because many will be desperate.
What Marc Anthony is saying is possible. But its difficult. It takes time, language skills and a certain knowledge of the lay of the land so you can spot chicas who don't have the pack mentality, the I do what everyone else does attitude.
I have a solid WhatsApp team. Bro P.S. Angel's. But that didn't happen overnight. Mi dos centavos.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Ohsowavy1;2440920]Hey guys,
I'm 21 years old new to the forums and when this whole you know what blows over I wanted to go to Sosua for the first time. I'm tired of the matrix and want to experience something new. So any way I wanted to know how much to do anything you want to a chica BBFS, bbj ect. Also money is no issue so. Anyway thanks and hoping to share more in the forums.[/QUOTE]Last year the going rates were 1500 p during the day and happy hour. 2000 at night for short time. 3000 p for all night. Used to be 2000 p for all night five years ago. The girls just give worse service as the years go by the last ten years. The only good thing is the value of the peso has gone from around 46 (2015) to 53 and the girls still charge the same for short time in peso. So we are saving 15%.
Wish I could say that in the Angeles City. Is also shut down right now. Because of the Korean coming down for 2-3 days. They don't care what they pay. So it went from cheap in 2008 to expensive today. 51 to the dollar. 3000-4000 p barfine plus tip. Plus 300-350 p lady drinks in bar. Hopefully she will stay all night. I get my girls in disco for 1500 plus 100 for trike. Mostly short time from disco.
My dream woman.
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Any updates on how long the national quarantine will last? Anybody on the ground there doing work? Bars open at all?
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2445493]Any updates on how long the national quarantine will last? Anybody on the ground there doing work? Bars open at all?[/QUOTE]Nobody knows how long things will be like this. I was in Sosua (except for the holidays) for eight months, up until last week and got the hell out, if you have a car and drive around during the day there are a few chicas around, they have to eat too. All bars are closed with no exceptions and only a few restaurants serving takeout. Absolutely eerie how dead it is. As much as the curfew sucked it was the right thing to do, it is not in place to help control the virus it is in place to help control the desperate thugs, you could feel the tension in the air.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2445556]Nobody knows how long things will be like this. I was in Sosua (except for the holidays) for eight months, up until last week and got the hell out, if you have a car and drive around during the day there are a few chicas around, they have to eat too. All bars are closed with no exceptions and only a few restaurants serving takeout. Absolutely eerie how dead it is. As much as the curfew sucked it was the right thing to do, it is not in place to help control the virus it is in place to help control the desperate thugs, you could feel the tension in the air.[/QUOTE]I can believe the tension is really thick. This may have nothing to do with the lockdown but there was a major crime (homicide) reported at Residencial Hispaniola recently. No info if this was just someone desperate and looking for money or something personal but I would guess the lockdown is really to control crime. I stayed at Residencial Hispaniola and never thought this would happen there.
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2445493]Any updates on how long the national quarantine will last? Anybody on the ground there doing work? Bars open at all?[/QUOTE]Check with your local airlines on flights out. That's your best bet. There are flights scheduled out after the 5th. Good luck!
Peace,
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2445493]Any updates on how long the national quarantine will last? Anybody on the ground there doing work? Bars open at all?[/QUOTE]As Manzinales says, nobody knows how long it will last. Like everybody else they are watching the numbers. Estimates currently range from 2 weeks to a month.
Everybody is wearing masks. It's weird to see the few chicas on the street looking for business wearing a mask. Not an inviting sight!
After 5 pm the streets are deserted, no motoconchos, nada, but there is music and loud party sounds coming from some apartments, and around the pools of small hotels closed to the public, serving guests only, long after the staff have gone home.
If you know your way around, you can still get a drink behind the doors and curtains of some bars that serve take out food, and you can still get a haircut.
Yesterday, I was in a local bar, and was sitting at the bar with a beer, overlooking the street, listening to music, chatting with a bar chica amiga, waiting for my take out, and it was like old times in there, but you need to keep the beer bottle out of sight of the patrolling cops.
Folks are cheating, and the government can only do so much, before cabin fever and human nature takes over.
But the supermecado shelves are well stocked, my regular comes in from PP once a week for a couple days and we are eating a lot of home cooking! For me it's still the best place to ride out the storm, and I'm usually in bed early, anyway.
My little paradise, still!
[QUOTE=Njoean197;2445493]Any updates on how long the national quarantine will last? Anybody on the ground there doing work? Bars open at all?[/QUOTE]I don't think it will be opening anytime soon and, plus that I don't see any inclination among travelers to be getting on an airplane to go anywhere.
As my traveling days and mongering are basically over I can't help to think many of the girls I bagged in Sosua and the hard times many are going thru now. Met some cool fellas too like Mr Gogo and his crew. If a girl managed to grab a guy before the pandemic she would be wise to hold firm to him and treat him like a king. Hopefully this thing will ride it's course but it will definitely leave a black eye to the hobby.
[QUOTE=Sabor;2446147]As my traveling days and mongering are basically over I can't help to think many of the girls I bagged in Sosua and the hard times many are going thru now. Met some cool fellas too like Mr Gogo and his crew. If a girl managed to grab a guy before the pandemic she would be wise to hold firm to him and treat him like a king. Hopefully this thing will ride it's course but it will definitely leave a black eye to the hobby.[/QUOTE]Yeah bro, wondered what happened to you? Glad you are good. I remember me, you and Tony would hangout in the barios of Puerto Plata (2009) and all the neighborhood girls would come out. I also remember the working girl in Santo Domingo who took a 30 minute shit in your penthouse and had the whole place stinking LOL. How about the police officer on the motorcycle incident, glad Dominican Jose was there to get us out of that. Peace.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2445556]Nobody knows how long things will be like this. I was in Sosua (except for the holidays) for eight months, up until last week and got the hell out, if you have a car and drive around during the day there are a few chicas around, they have to eat too. All bars are closed with no exceptions and only a few restaurants serving takeout. Absolutely eerie how dead it is. As much as the curfew sucked it was the right thing to do, it is not in place to help control the virus it is in place to help control the desperate thugs, you could feel the tension in the air.[/QUOTE]Can you drive after 5 PM or will the police pull you over and tell you to go home?
Yesterday we got busted.
A militia truck drove slowly by and looked at me and the GF, and a couple more regulars sitting at the bar. We knew they would be back so we ditched the beer.
They came in, 5 of them in masks, one bearing a shotgun. Checked us all out, I told them I was waiting for my take out! (a lie). They ordered us out, put on masks, and ordered the owner to remove all bar seats.
Just another day in paradise! LOL.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2446295]Can you drive after 5 PM or will the police pull you over and tell you to go home?[/QUOTE]Nobody is supposed to be on the road unless you are authorized to be on the road. All businesses are supposed to close early so as to allow time for their employees to get home. I do not know if police make allowances in certain situations?
If they do, that can be on a case by case basis. My gut tells me, if they suspect you are not just late getting home from work or couldn't get off the road because of an emergency, but blatantly in violation of the curfew, they will treat you accordingly.
This lock down gives bored police something to do. So if enough police get to find people in violation of the curfew or social distancing guidelines, you just made their day. In Santiago they got the Fire Dept. spraying water from a fire engine at people in violation of social distancing. So in my estimation, all entities are tired of warning people. They are making examples out of people.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2446467]In Santiago they got the Fire Dept. spraying water from a fire engine at people in violation of social distancing.[/QUOTE]And in Las Terrenas they are taking them to jail!
In good times and bad, it always pays to show the cops a little "respect".
You occasionally see some "bravura" visitors and local chicas mouthing off at them. But the cops have attitude too. And it livens up their boring job when they find one. They'll just put you in the back of the pick up truck, and take you out of circulation for a few hours, and cool you off.
I've been caught up in a few sweeps over the years. Used to push my luck a little when I was young and foolish. Mr Righteousness, LOL. One cop here remembers me from sweep in Boca Chica years ago, that I posted about here, and I always get a wave and a nod. I occasionally buy him a coke when he has time.
Learned to be polite and respectful to them, they hold all the cards, and I would advise all visitors to do the same, and not just with the cops, locals too, if you like to stay out of trouble.
Save the aggression and adrenaline for the gym. LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2446696]In good times and bad, it always pays to show the cops a little "respect".
You occasionally see some "bravura" visitors and local chicas mouthing off at them. But the cops have attitude too. And it livens up their boring job when they find one. They'll just put you in the back of the pick up truck, and take you out of circulation for a few hours, and cool you off.
I've been caught up in a few sweeps over the years. Used to push my luck a little when I was young and foolish. Mr Righteousness, LOL. One cop here remembers me from sweep in Boca Chica years ago, that I posted about here, and I always get a wave and a nod. I occasionally buy him a coke when he has time.
Learned to be polite and respectful to them, they hold all the cards, and I would advise all visitors to do the same, and not just with the cops, locals too, if you like to stay out of trouble.
Save the aggression and adrenaline for the gym. LOL.[/QUOTE]What powers do police have? Some key tools they have been given are:
- The power to close a wide range of non-essential businesses.
- The power to restrict your right to move around and be part of a gathering.
Also some social distancing rules:
- Leaving the place where you live "without reasonable excuse".
- Being in a public gathering of more than two people.
Respect the police and the public authorities is our duty!
[QUOTE=Darelax;2446974]What powers do police have? Some key tools they have been given are:
- The power to close a wide range of non-essential businesses.
- The power to restrict your right to move around and be part of a gathering.
Also some social distancing rules:
- Leaving the place where you live "without reasonable excuse".
- Being in a public gathering of more than two people.
Respect the police and the public authorities is our duty![/QUOTE]I don't respect them personally, just their power, which is why I put respect in "quotes".
Corruption is rife among them. Mostly it manifests itself in "selective enforcement".
They can close down any bar or food seller, almost at will if they have a beef against them. I know one owner who constantly is harassed. He shows them no "respect", LOL. They pile in at random, check his clients, ID and question his staff. Other bars are totally ignored, even the notorious one with no windows, that is always in business, 24 hours a day, even during these COVID days.
On a slow day they can pick up a fresh new young hot chica off the streets anytime they like, and "investigate" her for a couple hours, just for the fun of it.
Stop any car or moto for no apparent reason.
It's their power I respect. I'm cool with that, and they're cool with me. LOL.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2447069]I don't respect them personally, just their power, which is why I put respect in "quotes".
Corruption is rife among them. Mostly it manifests itself in "selective enforcement".
They can close down any bar or food seller, almost at will if they have a beef against them. I know one owner who constantly is harassed. He shows them no "respect", LOL. They pile in at random, check his clients, ID and question his staff. Other bars are totally ignored, even the notorious one with no windows, that is always in business, 24 hours a day, even during these COVID days.
On a slow day they can pick up a fresh new young hot chica off the streets anytime they like, and "investigate" her for a couple hours, just for the fun of it.
Stop any car or moto for no apparent reason.
It's their power I respect. I'm cool with that, and they're cool with me. LOL.[/QUOTE]I didn't know it was like this in this country. Being like this, I understand and even share your point of view.
There's a little optimism in the air today!
More restaurants are now opening up for take out, and some food and liquor stores have re-opened for curb side business.
My local barber shop seems to have been given a pass, and they have a thriving business behind closed doors.
Willy is already doing a great job as new Mayor. Old broken sidewalks are being paved, abandoned lots are being leveled, and truck loads of garbage are being removed. The fire department is hosing down and disinfecting the sidewalks and streets. Now you can walk from uptown to downtown in flip flops, without getting an unwanted "Sosua Pedicure", LOL.
The Progresso bank on Pedro, near the liquor store has been closed permanently so we are stuck with the other 2 that limits withdrawals, but the liquor store is open for sidewalk business.
The P4P business is still going on by smartphone appointments, but there's little street action, except for a few die-hards.
Who wants to exchange body fluids with a stranger in these times?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2450090]There's a little optimism in the air today!
More restaurants are now opening up for take out, and some food and liquor stores have re-opened for curb side business.
My local barber shop seems to have been given a pass, and they have a thriving business behind closed doors.
Willy is already doing a great job as new Mayor. Old broken sidewalks are being paved, abandoned lots are being leveled, and truck loads of garbage are being removed. The fire department is hosing down and disinfecting the sidewalks and streets. Now you can walk from uptown to downtown in flip flops, without getting an unwanted "Sosua Pedicure", LOL.
The Progresso bank on Pedro, near the liquor store has been closed permanently so we are stuck with the other 2 that limits withdrawals, but the liquor store is open for sidewalk business.
The P4P business is still going on by smartphone appointments, but there's little street action, except for a few die-hards.
Who wants to exchange body fluids with a stranger in these times?[/QUOTE]Sounds good! Good for Willie! I hope he has a good run!
I'm back as soon as flights are allowed! I'll have number 1 come and stay until I leave. I agree, this is no time to chica hop! LOL. I don't care about the bars being closed. Ill just have to create my own party! Peace!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2450223]Sounds good! Good for Willie! I hope he has a good run!
I'm back as soon as flights are allowed! I'll have number 1 come and stay until I leave. I agree, this is no time to chica hop! LOL. I don't care about the bars being closed. Ill just have to create my own party! Peace![/QUOTE]The good news is that restaurants and bars (those that managed to stay in business, that is) are getting ready to open, some say as early as next week, maybe with spacing restrictions.
The PP lockdown is expected to end on Monday to allow non essential travel in and out, again. Maybe Sir Charles could chime in here.
The other good news is that what Sosua was always famous for, hot chicas, are still around, making their "errands of mercy" rounds, 2 up on motos. On my way up to Pola, 2 passed me and smiled and waved. Took my breath away for a minute. Seeing 2 10's together always does that to me.
When I got up to the plaza ATM machine, they were already there inside the little A / see kiosk, so I got a close up. Even on TV, these two would be hotter than most. Flawless dancer's bodies with faces to match. One was doing a little dancing while her amiga was at the machine and we said hola. Available! 4,000 DP for the 2. Nothing like that back home when I was young and terminally in heat.
But I didn't even ask for their number, as at my age I already got all I can handle, and my WhatsApp is always busy with known quantities looking for a "date", at bargain prices.
So come on down, when you can. There's always a warm welcome waiting here for you!
My own personal rating numbers.
Below 7 invisible to me.
8 make eye contact as she passes.
9 stop and turn around to check it out.
10, follow her into the store, LOL.
Athletic bodies, no fat, no plastic, no ink, a ready smile, and natural just like the good lord made them.
(Disclosure: my regular is a 7, but that's a whole different deal. Her GFs are 8 to 10).
The King's report makes me want to fire up the Grand Jefe mobile and roll out. Damn, I cannot do that now can I. Hotels are not open yet are they. LOL!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2450346]The good news is that restaurants and bars (those that managed to stay in business, that is) are getting ready to open, some say as early as next week, maybe with spacing restrictions.
The PP lockdown is expected to end on Monday to allow non essential travel in and out, again. Maybe Sir Charles could chime in here.
The other good news is that what Sosua was always famous for, hot chicas, are still around, making their "errands of mercy" rounds, 2 up on motos. On my way up to Pola, 2 passed me and smiled and waved. Took my breath away for a minute. Seeing 2 10's together always does that to me.
When I got up to the plaza ATM machine, they were already there inside the little A / see kiosk, so I got a close up. Even on TV, these two would be hotter than most. Flawless dancer's bodies with faces to match. One was doing a little dancing while her amiga was at the machine and we said hola. Available! 4,000 DP for the 2. Nothing like that back home when I was young and terminally in heat.
But I didn't even ask for their number, as at my age I already got all I can handle, and my WhatsApp is always busy with known quantities looking for a "date", at bargain prices..[/QUOTE]No plastic, no ink-I like that. As a matter of fact, I love it. That's my speed!. Harder to come by now, being ink is fashionable. That's why I want to start hitting the smaller towns!!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2446476]And in Las Terrenas they are taking them to jail![/QUOTE]Are those pics you took Mr E or are they in the paper? They look like expats. How are things in Las Terrenas?
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2450693]Are those pics you took Mr E or are they in the paper? They look like expats. How are things in Las Terrenas?[/QUOTE]The pictures were from a video that a friend sent me. I think the people were French if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2450090]There's a little optimism in the air today!
More restaurants are now opening up for take out, and some food and liquor stores have re-opened for curb side business.
My local barber shop seems to have been given a pass, and they have a thriving business behind closed doors.
Willy is already doing a great job as new Mayor. Old broken sidewalks are being paved, abandoned lots are being leveled, and truck loads of garbage are being removed. The fire department is hosing down and disinfecting the sidewalks and streets. Now you can walk from uptown to downtown in flip flops, without getting an unwanted "Sosua Pedicure", LOL.
The Progresso bank on Pedro, near the liquor store has been closed permanently so we are stuck with the other 2 that limits withdrawals, but the liquor store is open for sidewalk business.
The P4P business is still going on by smartphone appointments, but there's little street action, except for a few die-hards.
Who wants to exchange body fluids with a stranger in these times?[/QUOTE]Covid 19 kills but also kills stay locked! Its a great message of hope that goes out from you. It will offer a message of hope to many communities in this country.
Read details at [URL]https://****************threads/it%E2%80%99s-official-the-national-state-of-emergency-to-last-until-1-june-2020.393044/[/URL]#post-5526867.
Just in time. Folks here were starting to break the tough rules!
Stay safe!
Today Wednesday May 20th, 2020 is supposed to be the 1st phase of businesses reopening in the DR. In Sosua I noticed the main appliance store (Pappaterra) was open. Hardware, Bldg. Construction and paint stores, open. All of the Motor Bike and Car Repair shops were open. The car wash was open. And with a 7 pm curfew in place. Each may be allowed to be open long enough to conduct business and allow their employees time to get home before curfew.
I believe the Supermercados hours of operation have extended past the previous 3 pm closure time frame. Thing is fellas, this phase one of openings has to be a success, because if anything goes wrong that spooks the health or govt officials they will revoke the phase one openings, and there won't be any phase two until it's deemed safe.
Hello everyone. Has anyone been to Blackbeards. Any update on what's it like, how much the cost, tips, etc.
[QUOTE=Remy316;2452429]Hello everyone. Has anyone been to Blackbeards. Any update on what's it like, how much the cost, tips, etc.[/QUOTE]Hi Remy. Why do you not:
1) Look in the Blackbeards Resort thread for this information?
2) If you have more questions after having done that, post them in the Blackbeards Resort thread.
3) Delete your post here (and I will delete mine).
[QUOTE=Remy316;2452429]Hello everyone. Has anyone been to Blackbeards. Any update on what's it like, how much the cost, tips, etc.[/QUOTE]Blackbeards is closed & no one on site is answering emails according to their newsletters. Only security guards on site. They estimate it to be mid-August.
[QUOTE=Remy316;2452429]Hello everyone. Has anyone been to Blackbeards. Any update on what's it like, how much the cost, tips, etc.[/QUOTE]Sign up on Blackbeard website and you will get monthly newsletter and regular updates. I signed up long time ago and receive it regularly although I never stayed there.
Been in Sosua since March, it was a dead city now things are opening, 7 pm a oh.
Been in Sosua since March. It was pretty dead all this time. Nice to see the curfew extended until 7 pm and some of the clothing stores opened and yes the barbershops. No more calling your barber and getting a trim behind closed doors. Was expecting things to be pretty tense with months of no business but feels alright on the street, vibe is pretty good. Was visiting Coco bar which is officially closed but if you knock and say you are friend you can get a drink at the bar. The bartender is a cool Canadian guy always telling stories but honestly the place is pretty lively as is with everyone just enjoying all good times. I was told you can get a good breakfast at the back at Plan be. Never tried it though. Street action is next to non-existent especially compared to what it used to be. All Santo Domingo chicas are staying put at home.
Was pretty sad to learn that the main disco is closed until further notice as an attempt to "turn the city into family friendly neighborhood" by the local government. Sosúa just changed the major so may be it will change, who knows, but the resort lobby seems pretty powerful.
Any other advice of functioning bars at the moment? Hearing a lot of music in the neighborhoods, anyone had a way to get to the party?
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2452566]Blackbeards is closed & no one on site is answering emails according to their newsletters. Only security guards on site. They estimate it to be mid-August.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that information. They didn't specify any reopening time frames for this summer season but thought I get some feedback on that place from others who might have visited in the past to see what's its like.
[QUOTE=Xrundel;2452746]Been in Sosua since March. It was pretty dead all this time. Nice to see the curfew extended until 7 pm and some of the clothing stores opened and yes the barbershops. No more calling your barber and getting a trim behind closed doors. Was expecting things to be pretty tense with months of no business but feels alright on the street, vibe is pretty good. Was visiting Coco bar which is officially closed but if you knock and say you are friend you can get a drink at the bar. The bartender is a cool Canadian guy always telling stories but honestly the place is pretty lively as is with everyone just enjoying all good times. I was told you can get a good breakfast at the back at Plan be. Never tried it though. Street action is next to non-existent especially compared to what it used to be. All Santo Domingo chicas are staying put at home.
Was pretty sad to learn that the main disco is closed until further notice as an attempt to "turn the city into family friendly neighborhood" by the local government. Sosa just changed the major so may be it will change, who knows, but the resort lobby seems pretty powerful.
Any other advice of functioning bars at the moment? Hearing a lot of music in the neighborhoods, anyone had a way to get to the party?[/QUOTE]That's a pretty accurate summing up of the status here at the moment.
But just a note. While the cops are aware of the (illegal) back room activities going on at the usual spots, it's not helpful to the owners to have them publicized by name on a public board.
There's PM facility here for that, yours for a modest full subscription.
Cheers!
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/26/us-passport-used-to-be-asset-under-trump-it-has-become-a-liability[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2453976][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/26/us-passport-used-to-be-asset-under-trump-it-has-become-a-liability[/URL][/QUOTE]The Guardian is a cowardly leftist garbage and should be reviewed only to know what the left is conspiring, even more, you have to believe exact opposite of its concoctions.
Countries may take a dim look at travelers from the United States of America. I doubt simply holding a passport from there will become a liability. But could result in ALL travelers arriving from hot spots in the United States of America receiving additional medical screening. I addressed issues of medical issues involving COVID-19 and why I personally think additional medical screening for those arriving from hotspots in the United States of America (or any country for that matter) in the Politics in the Dominican Republic forum less than a month ago.
[QUOTE=Questner;2454243]The Guardian is a cowardly leftist garbage and should be reviewed only to know what the left is conspiring, even more, you have to believe exact opposite of its concoctions.[/QUOTE]I learned one thing about life in the DR from the locals.
Don't let opinions or rumors affect your daily life. Only facts on the ground matter. Manana the reality may be totally different.
Here are the facts for those contemplating a trip to DR, or even the USA.
Per capita deaths (per million of population).
Belgium 615.
Spain 574.
You. K. 555.
Italy 554.
France 424.
Sweden 395.
Netherlands 338.
Ireland 330.
USA 299.
DR 47.
USA S. Are, China, Iran. Unreliable data!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2454296] Here are the facts for those contemplating a trip to DR, or even the USA.
Per capita deaths (per million of population).
Belgium 615.
Spain 574.
You. K. 555.
Italy 554.
France 424.
Sweden 395.
Netherlands 338.[/QUOTE]I was listening to the radio yesterday in my car. I am not going to mention station name so the conspiracy theorists do not get started. Two reporters reported from Italy and France. When the reporters were asked about the chances of US passport holders traveling to those two countries, this summer, as they open up for tourism, both demurred. Looking at your statistics, numbers normalized, even though I do not know the source, it makes sense, as the EU have enough problem of their own and most likely will restrict travel from across the pond. What will happen to the DR, I do not know but again, looking at your numbers, it would definitely pose a challenge to the local authorities in the DR.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2454296]I learned one thing about life in the DR from the locals.
Don't let opinions or rumors affect your daily life. Only facts on the ground matter. Manana the reality may be totally different.
Here are the facts for those contemplating a trip to DR, or even the USA.
Per capita deaths (per million of population).
Belgium 615.
Spain 574.
You. K. 555.
Italy 554.
France 424.
Sweden 395.
Netherlands 338.
Ireland 330.
USA 299.
DR 47.
USA S. Are, China, Iran. Unreliable data![/QUOTE]Just curious, how these figures help deciding how safe it is to travel to a country on the list?
[QUOTE=Nordico;2454401]Just curious, how these figures help deciding how safe it is to travel to a country on the list?[/QUOTE]Thank you for the stats. It is impossible to know the truth at this point. Nothing will be the same due to the "fear" they have instilled in the "sheeple". This is just my opinion. I will not conform to a "new normal" nor will I accept a vaccine because who know's what is really in them. They have killed and paralyzed many of our African Brothers and Sisters with their vaccines. Not to mention the "sterilization' of our women. My goal is to travel wherever I chose, when I chose. I don't advocate a person not doing whatever they think they need to do. It's all horseshit to me. But, it's here and it's not going away nor is there a "cure" for any virus that I know of. Except maybe Hepatitis C, and I think your immune system kicks in on that issue with a little help. There is a bigger picture here which is yet to emerge, but it is on the way. I follow the the guidelines only when I have to due to work and such. Take care yourselves and let's hope things loosen up soon.
Peace and love.
[QUOTE=NightWhaler;2454451]I will not conform to a "new normal" nor will I accept a vaccine because who know's what is really in them. They have killed and paralyzed many of our African Brothers and Sisters with their vaccines. Not to mention the "sterilization' of our women. My goal is to travel wherever I chose, when I chose.[/QUOTE]Then what are you going to do when they tell you that you can not travel unless you have been vaccinated?
[QUOTE=Nordico;2454401]Just curious, how these figures help deciding how safe it is to travel to a country on the list?[/QUOTE]We have members contemplating their return to DR from some of the countries mentioned. They want to know how safe is the DR.
The figures I posted show that the current risk factor for dying from COVID19 in the DR, is far lower than their home countries.
So it might inform the decisions of those folks who are chomping at the bit to get back to DR pussy?
(The numbers are from [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/[/URL]).
Trying to post real info, free of speculation, rumours, political and news media hype.
Salud.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454476]Then what are you going to do when they tell you that you can not travel unless you have been vaccinated?[/QUOTE]The only way I'll get the vaccine is if its mandatory for travel. Bruh is right. No telling what's in that vaccine. Plus their rushing it. But of I can't fly without it I'll get it.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2454296]I learned one thing about life in the DR from the locals.
Don't let opinions or rumors affect your daily life. Only facts on the ground matter. Manana the reality may be totally different.
Here are the facts for those contemplating a trip to DR, or even the USA.
Per capita deaths (per million of population).
Belgium 615.
Spain 574.
You. K. 555.
Italy 554.
France 424.
Sweden 395.
Netherlands 338.
Ireland 330.
USA 299.
DR 47.
USA S. Are, China, Iran. Unreliable data![/QUOTE]If anyone believes that the per capita numbers in the DR are THAT MUCH lower than they are in the countries listed then they are some kind of stupid.