Medellin Reports

I have found Energy Massage posting on Youtube and it certainly gets my attention. Is there a metro station nearby?

Energy is in the Laureles district and I may well be staying in this area, would a Uber taxi be the best way of getting there.

A fee of 150,000 cop was mentioned earlier, but the poster paid an additional 50,000 cop. Is this tip expected every time?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2357085]Sorry I didn't mean Gustos, I meant to say Fase Dos. I plan to check out Gustos just to see what it's like but I've already decided that I won't be having any sessions there.

So looks like you pay before at Fase Dos then? That's a shame cause I feel because it's a strip club, girls can easily scam by making up some sort of excuse to get away and then not come back if their getting paid before the session.[/QUOTE]It doesn't work that way at Fase Dos.

Once you decide on a girl she'll lead you over to where you pay. Then she'll lead you outside to the place next door where the rooms are. You'll go to the window where they'll hand over towels and a condom (there's a charge for the condom) and the girl will take you to the room.

If some girl tries to get you to pay while you're still sitting at the table, she's trying to scam you.

[QUOTE=JackJonesDtw;2357091]Yes. And when you do, place them on the other side of the room opposite of the door. Keep yourself between your items and the exit door. Even if it means putting them on the floor. Prevent quick exits.[/QUOTE]You've clearly never seen the floors in the rooms in the El Centro strip clubs.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2357096]There are great views in Centro too but it is really scuzzy. I love it. I am a Centro rat.[/QUOTE]I love the El Centro views too. Scuzzy has its appeal. It just doesn't appeal to everyone. I've taken guys through El Centro who practically walk around on their toes to keep their shoes from touching anything dirty. Can't imagine how they'd react a few blocks north and west where all the dumpster divers take their garbage to sell.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356665]It's the "Who's the Better Monger" game. There's no real rules, you just pick something you prefer, declare it the best, attack anything you don't prefer and declare yourself the winner.

There are guys who can't enjoy El Centro. It's outside of their comfort zone. It doesn't benefit them to insist they come to El Centro. It's not helpful to insinuate they're a loser for not staying in El Centro.
[/QUOTE]Agree. I also think one can have fun and report back without putting down others either directly or passively. IMO, one of the beauties of mongering in MDE is that we all aren't limited to one small area.

Case in point, the pic is from a guy who comes to Medellin to floss and habitually posts about it in the FB groups. Some guys are El Poblado dudes and it's better that way. I have no incentive to steer him to another part of town through social media, youtube, emails, etc., which are often based on information from this forum.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2357041]............ Actually it happened to me in the Vera Cruz area. I payed first and the girl said she was going for a beer and never came back............[/QUOTE]If you meet a street walker, pay her first and then she says she's going for a beer, and returns, marry that girl!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2357286]Agree. I also think one can have fun and report back without putting down others either directly or passively. IMO, one of the beauties of mongering in MDE is that we all aren't limited to one small area.[/QUOTE]I really can't think of another mongering destination like MDE anywhere in the world. When you factor in all of the different venues, the price range from low end to high end, the beautiful women, the weather, and close proximity to the USA is hard to beat. The only downside is how dangerous it can be, and the language issue which affects some.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2356749]I have a friend who lives by the word of Poblado, he also was taking Flagyl to clear up that same itch he obtained in Poblado, for a significant fee. But hey, if trying to convince the reader that better, cleaner, safer WGs are in Poblado, go ahead, I know bettter. The fresh new talent is at ground zero, Centro! I haven't seen one post that theoretically proves that safer, cleaner, better girls are in Poblado versus Centro, the only relevance to each location is that one charges more than the other and both produce the same outputs! To each their own, but I've had my take or I have been taken in Poblado and I don't want to get took again! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Hey PN,

Are you back in Medellin now? I returned from SoCal this past week and after a month hiatus so glad to be back in the dirty dilapidated scummy area that we both love called el centro! Already partied down there 3 times in the past 4 days. And now I am sitting in my apartment here in Medellin I will be back down in centro in a few hours.

To each his own and I am living the dream of a rockstar on a nominal budget.

The Tall Man.

My brother used to frequent Soi 7 Biergarden in Bangkok. I met him there a few times and I cannot stand the place. Yes the women are cheaper at the Biergarden but I rather go to an oily or a soapy. I liked the Soi 33 art bars which were more expensive than the oilies. Probably the only difference between the art bars and the Biergarden was that the girls wore fancier dresses and applied their makeup better. Why would Medellin be any different than Bangkok? The art bars failed around the time when the oilies became predominant near the Phrom Phong skytrain stop.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2357348]My brother used to frequent Soi 7 Biergarden in Bangkok. I met him there a few times and I cannot stand the place. Yes the women are cheaper at the Biergarden but I rather go to an oily or a soapy. I liked the Soi 33 art bars which were more expensive than the oilies. Probably the only difference between the art bars and the Biergarden was that the girls wore fancier dresses and applied their makeup better. Why would Medellin be any different than Bangkok? The art bars failed around the time when the oilies became predominant near the Phrom Phong skytrain stop.[/QUOTE]Well one of the major differences is looks and what appeals to a person. I've been to Bangkok and visited a lot of Asia back in the day. Lots of good, cheap pussy to be had but I prefer a big booty Colombian. From me Thailand is super far but if it wasn't I'd go there often LOL. That's another level of mongering from what I remember. Phuket and Pattaya beach are something else! People would think I was full of shit if I posted the stories from back in the day. There's no need to search forums or facebook girls if going there. You can find whatever the hell you want in no time out there. Soapies, head bars, lady boys, anal queens, whatever; It's the only place where I actually got tired of pussy one day. I got a fuckin handjob at the goddamn airport because I had a long wait. It's fuckin ridiculous.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356665]It's the "Who's the Better Monger" game. There's no real rules, you just pick something you prefer, declare it the best, attack anything you don't prefer and declare yourself the winner.

Of course there is no best way. It's all subjective. No matter how good of a time someone in El Centro is having with a girl, the mongers in Poblado, Laureles, Envigado, Sabaneta, Belen and elsewhere aren't feeling a thing.

There are guys who can't enjoy El Centro. It's outside of their comfort zone. It doesn't benefit them to insist they come to El Centro. It's not helpful to insinuate they're a loser for not staying in El Centro..[/QUOTE]Spot on. We all have different sized wallets, different tastes, some like me wanting to quench a new perversion that I need to try (nothing wired), some of us like plastic and some like me hate it, some of us enjoy to know the chica a little and yet some are just find them and pay them and fuck them and leave (not my style), some like to mix it up and some prefer what they are used to, some have different levels of comfort and some like me always go out of their comfort zone, all in all to each his own.

I have fucked models in Moscow, have enjoyed the most beautiful women I have ever seen and been with in a termas in Rio 20 years ago, I have played in the FKK clubs in Germany, love to mix it up with playing in the Philippines and the DR and Cuba and Ecuador and all through Mexico, spent more dollars than I care to know in strip clubs in Las Vegas and elsewhere in the US, but love the simple next door over the top passionate Colombian with all natural curves and fresh attitude on life here in Medellin.

All fun and great experiences, but to each his own. I have found my spot, my niche here in Medellin and on a budget.

Here I sit in my apartment on this Sunday morning and I have already received 3 or 4 whatsapp messages from different paisa chicas wanting to know what am I doing this Sunday afternoon, where in the world could I be where I can choose which pussy I want to be balls deep into this afternoon.

There is no right or wrong way to play, just enjoy, life is short!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2357348]I liked the Soi 33 art bars which were more expensive than the oilies. Probably the only difference between the art bars and the Biergarden was that the girls wore fancier dresses and applied their makeup better. Why would Medellin be any different than Bangkok?[/QUOTE]I used to go eat at BM Giotto's place on Soi 33, but never saw a reason to spend $100 for a girl there. I was more of a Nana parking lot guy where I could get the chicks for $15, pretty much the same how I am a downtown guy in Medellin and not a Poblado guy there.

As has been said before, you are paying for the ambiance, setting, clothes, and makeup, which for me are not as big of a deal as the price difference. Hell, me and my wingmen were in Nice fucking street chicks behind bushes, so a downtown ST hotel in Medellin that could use a couple coats of paint is nothing to me. I understand a lot of guys want the royal comfort treatment though. I save that for regular chicks that I am dating. I don't need anything special for a quick fuck hooker.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2357368]I used to go eat at BM Giotto's place on Soi 33, but never saw a reason to spend $100 for a girl there. I was more of a Nana parking lot guy where I could get the chicks for $15, pretty much the same how I am a downtown guy in Medellin and not a Poblado guy there.

As has been said before, you are paying for the ambiance, setting, clothes, and makeup, which for me are not as big of a deal as the price difference. Hell, me and my wingmen were in Nice fucking street chicks behind bushes, so a downtown ST hotel in Medellin that could use a couple coats of paint is nothing to me. I understand a lot of guys want the royal comfort treatment though. I save that for regular chicks that I am dating. I don't need anything special for a quick fuck hooker.[/QUOTE]For me, my two girlfirends are much more expensive than $100 or $200 an hour hookers. I still remember playing blackjack with Leonard Tose at 2 AM in Las Vegas forty to fifty years ago. I was playing a money management system based on $2 a hand so my biggest bet might have been $16. He was playing $100 to $500 a hand. He just looked at me and said, "It's all relative. It's all relative. ".

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2357346]Hey PN,

Are you back in Medellin now? I returned from SoCal this past week and after a month hiatus so glad to be back in the dirty dilapidated scummy area that we both love called el centro! Already partied down there 3 times in the past 4 days. And now I am sitting in my apartment here in Medellin I will be back down in centro in a few hours.

To each his own and I am living the dream of a rockstar on a nominal budget.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I will be back in Medellin for a 30 day stay. I am currently planning on how I will spend my month in Medellin and I plan on doing a lot of studying for a future job interest. I may go to parque Botero daily, but only after I get my exercise & studying in, this will be the first time that I really have ample time to sit around study & concentrate on some serious studying while in Medellin. I can read fast so 30 days is more than enough time for me to read, review, & freshen up on studies while there, plus I'm starting the first leg of my dental surgery. Got a decent list of girls I can choose from, so I'll see how much fun I can have in 30 days. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2356128]This agency promotes socials as a way to meet Latin women and is having a social in Medellin on August 16-17. Wondering if anyone has attended? The location? If anyone has met girls who are interested in sex, or only marriage? Their website is loveme dot com. I am not interested in giving them advertising, so if the URL needs to be deleted, not big deal. They charge $450 for attending each social and I thought that was a lot of money for meeting some pussy. Most of these girl are probably looking for marriage, or not? Any men who have attended?[/QUOTE]Barranquilla is a better bet to meet nice girls at the AFA socials.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2356749]I have a friend who lives by the word of Poblado, he also was taking Flagyl to clear up that same itch he obtained in Poblado, for a significant fee. But hey, if trying to convince the reader that better, cleaner, safer WGs are in Poblado, go ahead, I know bettter. The fresh new talent is at ground zero, Centro! I haven't seen one post that theoretically proves that safer, cleaner, better girls are in Poblado versus Centro, the only relevance to each location is that one charges more than the other and both produce the same outputs! To each their own, but I've had my take or I have been taken in Poblado and I don't want to get took again! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I'm a Centro guy for mongering and a Poblado guy the rest of the time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356665]

There are guys who can't afford El Poblado. Paying $40-$100 a night for a room isn't in their budget. You can tell them about the views and the jacuzzi and the parade of Facebook girls coming through, but it won't help them.

[/QUOTE]I have to ask: What is a Facebook girl?

I've been thinking of visiting Medellin sometime later this year and was wondering how it compares to somewhere like Pattaya, Thailand. My biggest concern from some of the things I have been reading about Colombia is that women seem to be a bit more stuck up compared to thai women. I loved how laid back Thailand was and was hoping to find another place like that closer to home. I enjoy doing the touristy sight seeing stuff but most of my trips center around partying and women.

Any mongers who have been to both Thailand and Colombia that can give a good comparison of the two?

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2357466]I've been thinking of visiting Medellin sometime later this year and was wondering how it compares to somewhere like Pattaya, Thailand. My biggest concern from some of the things I have been reading about Colombia is that women seem to be a bit more stuck up compared to thai women.[/QUOTE]It is apples and oranges. Medellin is a big city where you can find chicks for P4P in certain houses, clubs, and online besides the basic streetwalkers that you can find in damn near any city.

Pattaya is a town that was invented for mongers. 95% of the women that you will run into out and about in Pattaya, you could end up fucking free or with pay. Remember most chicks that you will meet in Pattaya are backwoods farm girls that came or were sent to the place by their family to make some money.

Hookers in Medellin are usually from around that area and will be heading back to their house soon with the spoils of the day to be with their families. Many of their families may not even know what they are doing whereas in Thailand selling sex does not have the same stigma as it does in the west. Hell, a few years ago there was a monk that was even encouraging it. He was like if these foreigners are coming here with money then get all you can. You have to be able to recognize a blessing when you see it.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357464]I have to ask: What is a Facebook girl?[/QUOTE]A female who has a profile on the Facebook website.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2357486]A female who has a profile on the Facebook website.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to understand this thing about the girls and Facebook. What does it mean to monger that these particular girls have profiles on Facebook? I have seen Facebook mentioned before but do not understand how a monger uses Facebook to find chicas. And how would a person know that this is a "Facebook girl" walking by? Are there girls that have specific Pregago pages on Facebook?

I sent this out as a private message to senior member but I am just going to throw it on here for general advice:

I am mid fifties and I am balding on top and very large around the mid section, l'm talking pregnant with twins large. I have played this game in Cartagena but I was not as large than and not as many wrinkles. I met girls on line (LatinAmericanCupid) and met them for dinner, met them at my apartment etc. Of the chicas I met online I only had sex with like three out of like ten (I've made three total trips to Cartagena). I also fished in the clubs, and the square there.

I am planning a trip to Colombia in the next couple of months, probably October. I am not sure that I am going to Medellin but I am considering it. I am currently running the gamut with girls I met online, juggling conversations with them on ColombianCupid and Whatsapp when they give up their number. Talking to a couple of stunners in Medellin and if something looks for sure there than I will go. One girls profiles states "something mutually beneficial".

But I am a guy on a budget. When I meet these stunners online.

A- how do I feel them out to see if they are looking for financial compensation and let them know that I am willing to do that without insulting them?

Be- how much financial compensation and what form are we talking (ie pay them some cash? Take them shopping? Offer to pay some of their bills?) and.

See- I would like to know what kind of budget I need to satisfy them?

Thanks for reading this and thanks for any advice you can throw my way.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2357417]I'm a Centro guy for mongering and a Poblado guy the rest of the time.[/QUOTE]Your not alone, El Centro by day, Poblado the rest of the time for me as well.

I guess we might be called "half breeds" by other members on this board!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357492]I'm trying to understand this thing about the girls and Facebook. What does it mean to monger that these particular girls have profiles on Facebook? I ?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if I'm allowed to tell you this since this forum bans the use of foreign languages but #1 way too many whorish underwear and bikini photos to be an average Jane and #2 she writes to you starting off with (and this is an honest to god copy paste): "Hola Amor".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2357417]I'm a Centro guy for mongering and a Poblado guy the rest of the time.[/QUOTE]Same here. I always hit Centro once or twice a trip, but at the end up the day I like staying in a nice neighborhood, whether it be Poblado, Laureles, Envigado, or Belen. I'm on vacation and I want to be in reasonably pleasant surroundings.

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2357466]I've been thinking of visiting Medellin sometime later this year and was wondering how it compares to somewhere like Pattaya, Thailand. My biggest concern from some of the things I have been reading about Colombia is that women seem to be a bit more stuck up compared to thai women. I loved how laid back Thailand was and was hoping to find another place like that closer to home. I enjoy doing the touristy sight seeing stuff but most of my trips center around partying and women.

Any mongers who have been to both Thailand and Colombia that can give a good comparison of the two?[/QUOTE]Most here have been to both. I'm not sure any place in the world compares to Pattaya. It's not a normal city. You've probably got 50,000 or more available girls within a few miles in any direction. Personally, I found the place overwhelming.

Medellin is a normal city with pleasant weather and lovely women. At current exchange rates, it's laughably cheap. I don't think the women are stuck up at all. But you have to realize you can't just approach a regular chica like she's a pro.

I just recently returned from a two month trip in Brazil. I had a blast there so I am currently planning another 2. 5 - 3 months trip back to Brazil soon. And I plan to hop over to Colombia to take a break from all the Brazilian pussies I will be f**king. I thought I put my post here in the Medellin form as this is this the most active of the Colombia forms.

I have been to Colombia once several several years ago before the recent mass influx of Venezuelans. The thought of me taking advantage of the current situation in Venezuela have me now developing a huge fetish for some Venezuelan pussies. Then I will be able to cross it off my bucket list. I have been going through a lot of posts and have nailed down 4 possible cities I want to visit:

1) Cucuta. Never been to it and I know its more dangerous than the well trodden paths. But the prospect of TLN BBBJ + BBFS + CIM / CIP with Venez pussies for dirt cheap (from what I've read) got me sold. Planning on this to be the first place I hit in Colombia. If I can get all the CIP I want here, then hell I may just stay here for the entire trip. I think by day 3 I should be able to figure out if I want to lengthen my stay here or not.

2) Bogota. Had visited Santa Fe when I was there on my first and only trip years ago. From what I've read, a lot of Venez pussies can be found here also. Will be looking for Colombian pussies as well. I'm think at least a 5 day stay here, longer if Cucuta disappoints. What do ya'll think?

3) Medellin. Had a memorable session with a beautiful Colombian at a casa here (can't remember the name) so Medellin holds a special place in my heart. Again from what I've read so far, many SW in el centro and plaza Botero, along with casas and clubs. Planning to stay at least 5 days here as well.

4) Cartagena. Never been here but from what I can tell, its a touristy town and seems pussy prices are the highest here. Is that correct? The main pick up spot for chicas is at the clocktower. Lots of Venez pussies here as well, I think.

Seems like however, most of hotels and airbnb apts are not GF. May skip here.

With my main objective of BBFS + CIP with Venez girls, I know I won't be able to have my itinerary down until I'm on the ground. I'm not looking to wife up any girl. I'm up for all or any suggestions? I have some experience in Brazil so I can help out if anybody needs it. Just PM me. Do you guys think its a good idea to hit Cucuta first? Is Bogota or Medellin better for hunting Venez pussies?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357493]I sent this out as a private message to senior member but I am just going to throw it on here for general advice:

I am mid fifties and I am balding on top and very large around the mid section, l'm talking pregnant with twins large. I have played this game in Cartagena but I was not as large than and not as many wrinkles. I met girls on line (LatinAmericanCupid) and met them for dinner, met them at my apartment etc. Of the chicas I met online I only had sex with like three out of like ten (I've made three total trips to Cartagena). I also fished in the clubs, and the square there.

I am planning a trip to Colombia in the next couple of months, probably October. I am not sure that I am going to Medellin but I am considering it. I am currently running the gamut with girls I met online, juggling conversations with them on ColombianCupid and Whatsapp when they give up their number. Talking to a couple of stunners in Medellin and if something looks for sure there than I will go. One girls profiles states "something mutually beneficial".

But I am a guy on a budget. When I meet these stunners online..[/QUOTE]I'll try to answer your questions, beginning with "What is a Facebook girl?

Working girls around the world are discovering the benefits of using social media to find their customers. In Medellin several hundred of them can be found on Facebook. Many of them are indistinguishable from any other young woman on Facebook. They'll have pictures of their kids, pets, parents and friends. Others routinely post sexy pictures saying "disponible", or "citas disponible" (available, or dates available). Several posts have been written on how to start locating them. Search the forum.

There are advantages and disadvantages dealing with Facebook. Some of the advantages are that you get a fuller picture of the girls. You can see current pics, find out about kids, friends and what they enjoy. Most are also not clock watchers. I usually spend at least 2 hours with a Facebook girl. I've also had very few problems getting BBBJ without any upcharge.

Disadvantages are price, most want 150-200 k plus extra for taxi. If you're just looking to spend 15-30 minutes getting a quick but, El Centro casas are a better deal. Paisas are famous for being late for everything and Facebook paisas keep with the trend. Some will also become beggars, wanting money for whatever current problem they're having.

Meeting girls online:

Unless you're planning an extended stay, or plan on frequent return trips, you are probably better off sticking with a straight cash transaction. Avoid anyone looking for a relationship. They'll be much more expensive in the long run. I wouldn't offer to pay bills either.

Just tell them what you're looking for. "Hello. How are you? You're very beautiful. I will be visiting soon. I want to meet you. I like meeting beautiful women. " I usually add a joke / test next. Something like "l prefer to meet beautiful women in my bed. Naked. " They'll either laugh or agree. A few might be offended, but I've never had it happen.

Then it's just a matter of setting the price. Most guys recommend you offer the first price. I find that it works either way. 150 k is a standard price. Some will go lower, most will try for higher. If she opens with a higher price, I respond with "I always pay 150 k."

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2357127]Interesting, thanks.

And what about for when doing the deed at Fase Dos? Do you pay before or after?

Also is this the same protocol for the other strip clubs like La Isla, Loutron, Lana Lunera etc or is it different at each place?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]If you do them at FASE 2 or any other strip club you pay before. Which is why I have never done a chick at any club. Even when I pull them out of the club on the same night there is only a one in four chance of really having a very good experience. If you get their phone number and get them to come over to your place there is at least a 50 - 50 chance of having a great time with them.

Can't imagine what the odds are if you bang them in the place. But not very good.

At any rate clubs are the last place you should go. You will have a much better time in general with facebook chicks.

Has anybody been to New Life in Medellin recently? If so what's it looking like in there? I'm coming down to Medellin in October and plan on spending time in there.

Are there good condoms on the sex-shops of Medellin?

I know condoms have to be available in local pharmacies but I am looking for condoms that are slightly more fancy than the generic.

Anyone have experience buying condoms like Durex Invisible Thin in Medellin or something of that nature like Trojan BareSkin series?

This is not something I can easily order to the house risking having to explain this package to anyone if the shipping idiots don't pack discreet. Or should I buy them on my way to the airport here in NYC instead of doing it in Medellin?

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2357552]If you do them at FASE 2 or any other strip club you pay before. Which is why I have never done a chick at any club. Even when I pull them out of the club on the same night there is only a one in four chance of really having a very good experience. If you get their phone number and get them to come over to your place there is at least a 50 - 50 chance of having a great time with them.

Can't imagine what the odds are if you bang them in the place. But not very good.

At any rate clubs are the last place you should go. You will have a much better time in general with facebook chicks.[/QUOTE]There are actually casas where you are required to pay first, Energy and Chicas punto com come to mind, it is a worrying trend (caused by recalcitrant gringos?). Thankfully, there are others where you still pay after like gringo central New Life (has the hottest chicas in my book).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2357712]There are actually casas where you are required to pay first, Energy and Chicas punto com come to mind, it is a worrying trend (caused by recalcitrant gringos?). Thankfully, there are others where you still pay after like gringo central New Life (has the hottest chicas in my book).[/QUOTE]Except for 1 time, I always paid afterwards at Energy. I know that Club Sexxy Amigas is a prepay place, but people seem to get better, on average, service there than New Life. Although, New Life does have the better lineup.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2357527]I just recently returned from a two month trip in Brazil. I had a blast there so I am currently planning another 2. 5 - 3 months trip back to Brazil soon. And I plan to hop over to Colombia to take a break from all the Brazilian pussies I will be f**king. I thought I put my post here in the Medellin form as this is this the most active of the Colombia forms.

I have been to Colombia once several several years ago before the recent mass influx of Venezuelans. The thought of me taking advantage of the current situation in Venezuela have me now developing a huge fetish for some Venezuelan pussies. Then I will be able to cross it off my bucket list. I have been going through a lot of posts and have nailed down 4 possible cities I want to visit:

1) Cucuta. Never been to it and I know its more dangerous than the well trodden paths. But the prospect of TLN BBBJ + BBFS + CIM / CIP with Venez pussies for dirt cheap (from what I've read) got me sold. Planning on this to be the first place I hit in Colombia. If I can get all the CIP I want here, then hell I may just stay here for the entire trip. I think by day 3 I should be able to figure out if I want to lengthen my stay here or not.[/QUOTE]Your objective of BBFS and CIP can be found in Colombia, it will be a matter of various factors, including money which I believe your aware of, and I will leave it at that.

In regards to which City for Venez Pussies well of course the border town of Cucuta will have a lot, but I have never been there but there are others who have. Consideration of the climate might be a factor, which you won't be able to beat in Medellin. And El Centro is ground zero for Venez Pussies there as they have taken the place over in my opinion, however there are a lot of fat and ugly ones, but again that is just my opinion.

Another city you didn't mention was Santa Marta, I prefer it over Cartagena, lots of Venez girls, great food, girl friendly hotels, nicer beaches than Cartagena, and cheap compared to Cartagena. More information can be found on that thread.

You will find everything your looking for in Colombia, and I think Medellin will turn out to be the best City for you, but that is just my opinion, others may differ.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2357702]Are there good condoms on the sex-shops of Medellin?

I know condoms have to be available in local pharmacies but I am looking for condoms that are slightly more fancy than the generic.

Anyone have experience buying condoms like Durex Invisible Thin in Medellin or something of that nature like Trojan BareSkin series?

This is not something I can easily order to the house risking having to explain this package to anyone if the shipping idiots don't pack discreet. Or should I buy them on my way to the airport here in NYC instead of doing it in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I suggest you bring any condoms you like from the USA for your trip as the selection here won't be as good. Also lube as well, I haven't seen Astro-Glide in any of the pharmacies here either. Maybe they carry it in the sex shops, but it will be much easier to bring your own supplies with you. God forbid you get stuck using the condoms establishments use here.

Better yet, just bare-back all your Chicas, than you won't need to worry about bringing condoms, and can use spit lube when necessary.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2357702]Are there good condoms on the sex-shops of Medellin?

I know condoms have to be available in local pharmacies but I am looking for condoms that are slightly more fancy than the generic.

Anyone have experience buying condoms like Durex Invisible Thin in Medellin or something of that nature like Trojan BareSkin series?

This is not something I can easily order to the house risking having to explain this package to anyone if the shipping idiots don't pack discreet. Or should I buy them on my way to the airport here in NYC instead of doing it in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Buy them on the way to the airport. There are a few US brands at the pharmacies in Medellin, but I haven't seen any of the thin condoms.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2357702]Are there good condoms on the sex-shops of Medellin? Anyone have experience buying condoms like Durex Invisible Thin in Medellin or something of that nature like Trojan BareSkin series?[/QUOTE]If you want to pay like $20 for a pack of 3, then wait until you get to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2357689]Has anybody been to New Life in Medellin recently? If so what's it looking like in there? I'm coming down to Medellin in October and plan on spending time in there.[/QUOTE]They had roughly a dozen chicks the last holiday on Wed. 2 black chicks with very low haircuts. Half were stacked and kind of thick. Julietta is tall and pretty. 20 yo. Baby damage. I didn't see any 9's or 10's. If they had 9's I would be at NL now instead of on the board. But they also would charge more and be busier. There are 2 medium height chicks I'm considering. I probably would only do 25% of the lineup I saw last week.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2357532]

Meeting girls online:

Just tell them what you're looking for. "Hello. How are you? You're very beautiful. I will be visiting soon. I want to meet you. I like meeting beautiful women. " I usually add a joke / test next. Something like "l prefer to meet beautiful women in my bed. Naked. " They'll either laugh or agree. A few might be offended, but I've never had it happen.

Then it's just a matter of setting the price. Most guys recommend you offer the first price. I find that it works either way. 150 k is a standard price. Some will go lower, most will try for higher. If she opens with a higher price, I respond with "I always pay 150 k."[/QUOTE]Be careful what you say. I have had an account banned on Tinder. Try to get the Whatsapp as soon as possible before you get into the nitty gritty.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2357532]I'll try to answer your questions, beginning with "What is a Facebook girl?

Working girls around the world are discovering the benefits of using social media to find their customers. In Medellin several hundred of them can be found on Facebook. Many of them are indistinguishable from any other young woman on Facebook. They'll have pictures of their kids, pets, parents and friends. Others routinely post sexy pictures saying "disponible", or "citas disponible" (available, or dates available). Several posts have been written on how to start locating them. Search the forum.

[/QUOTE]Thank you, that clears it up as far as what is a Facebook girl. Now I just need to find the profiles. I found couple off of one post and one has accepted my friend request. I noticed that some profiles have "followers" versus "Friends" and I'm thinking that might help see their posts but I'm not sure it gives you direct contact. I will keep searching the forum, from what you say there is an upside to these girls.

I am currently talking to several women in Cartagena and Medellin, I might visit both places, on ColombianCupid, I have had some good luck and some bad luck with this in the past. I have already had women mention their "poor circumstances" and have blown those girls off. I am juggling contact with so many I cannot even count. I have about 20 phone numbers and am talking to them on Wh*pp and as soon as I detect that they might be expensive then I blow them off and block them. This approach has actually gotten me some free putane in the past in Cartagena (only twice actually in my three visits there) with women who were not semi-pros but just wanted to be entertained by a man, these women said that Colombian men are not at all romantic and that they are glad for some really romantic man to come along. I suspect one just really wanted to get laid herself and wanted to fuck someone she would never have to see again. This was probably dumb luck for me. I have also met women on there that are semi-pros and I bought them some clothes for their kid for some event coming up at their church. Many women will blow me off even after having many many conversations about how we are going to go to dinner etc, I hedge my bets by juggling all these women before I go. It takes a lot of time texting and getting phone numbers but if it gets me with one of these beauties than it will be worth it. My phone is blowing up from girls on wha*pp as we speak.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357878]Thank you, that clears it up as far as what is a Facebook girl. Now I just need to find the profiles. I found couple off of one post and one has accepted my friend request. I noticed that some profiles have "followers" versus "Friends" and I'm thinking that might help see their posts but I'm not sure it gives you direct contact. I will keep searching the forum, from what you say there is an upside to these girls.
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[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2334187]No need to be in Medellin for making a friendlist. You need to be in Medellin for the girls to take you seriously over FB chat.

Below is a list with profiles who have open friends tab I. E you can see all their friends:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/alka.line.16547008[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/juanita.londono.9634/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011323845278[/URL] -- pretty sure most the girls in his friendlist will accept your request.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Malcolm.Babygrand.Flythe[/URL] -- most the his friends are also prepagos.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/ray.paris.5661[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Just keep adding the friends from above profiles and don't over do it to trigger FB spam detectors. Also don't forget to add gringos to your list. Will later help you to know who is a prepago and who is not.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2357787]...........Better yet, just bare-back all your Chicas, than you won't need to worry about bringing condoms, and can use spit lube when necessary.[/QUOTE]This surfer guy has your best interest at heart. Always take the advice of anonymous people on the internet.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2357787]Also lube as well, I haven't seen Astro-Glide in any of the pharmacies here either.[/QUOTE]I bought KY at the Exito in the Unicentro mall last August.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2357886]This surfer guy has your best interest at heart. Always take the advice of anonymous people on the internet.[/QUOTE]I don't think Fortune Waffles knows what to think of my post. Perhaps to much of a contrast of options available to monger's here that can occur. And was I joking, or being serious about bare-backing the Chicas which I suppose your wondering.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2357366]Spot on. We all have different sized wallets, different tastes, some like me wanting to quench a new perversion that I need to try (nothing wired), some of us like plastic and some like me hate it, some of us enjoy to know the chica a little and yet some are just find them and pay them and fuck them and leave (not my style), some like to mix it up and some prefer what they are used to, some have different levels of comfort and some like me always go out of their comfort zone, all in all to each his own.

I have fucked models in Moscow, have enjoyed the most beautiful women I have ever seen and been with in a termas in Rio 20 years ago, I have played in the FKK clubs in Germany, love to mix it up with playing in the Philippines and the DR and Cuba and Ecuador and all through Mexico, spent more dollars than I care to know in strip clubs in Las Vegas and elsewhere in the US, but love the simple next door over the top passionate Colombian with all natural curves and fresh attitude on life here in Medellin.

All fun and great experiences, but to each his own. I have found my spot, my niche here in Medellin and on a budget.

Here I sit in my apartment on this Sunday morning and I have already received 3 or 4 whatsapp messages from different paisa chicas wanting to know what am I doing this Sunday afternoon, where in the world could I be where I can choose which pussy I want to be balls deep into this afternoon.

There is no right or wrong way to play, just enjoy, life is short!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Hey, did you receive my PM?

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2357882]Just keep adding the friends from above profiles and don't over do it to trigger FB spam detectors. Also don't forget to add gringos to your list. Will later help you to know who is a prepago and who is not.[/QUOTE]Thank you a lot. This is a little gold mine. Right now I am just book marking a lot of the profiles in my browser. I sent out a few friend request and FB popped up with a little message "are you sure you know this person?" So I slowed down to avoid FaceBook Jail. The Last guy on this list has his friends list turned off.

I also will not send a friend request if there are not gringos in their friend list, and I dont know whats going on when they only have "follow" as an option and no option for a "Friend Request"

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2357833]If you want to pay like $20 for a pack of 3, then wait until you get to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Unless I'm reading it wrong, that seems pretty damn expensive.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357960]Thank you a lot. This is a little gold mine. Right now I am just book marking a lot of the profiles in my browser. I sent out a few friend request and FB popped up with a little message "are you sure you know this person?" So I slowed down to avoid FaceBook Jail. The Last guy on this list has his friends list turned off.

I also will not send a friend request if there are not gringos in their friend list, and I dont know whats going on when they only have "follow" as an option and no option for a "Friend Request"[/QUOTE]So is Medellin the best city in Colombia?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2357960] I sent out a few friend request and FB popped up with a little message "are you sure you know this person?" So I slowed down to avoid FaceBook Jail. The Last guy on this list has his friends list turned off.

I also will not send a friend request if there are not gringos in their friend list, and I dont know whats going on when they only have "follow" as an option and no option for a "Friend Request"[/QUOTE]Facebook Jail, this social media stuff is just too much for me. I'm old school, and I know some guys swear by it, but I just don't have the patience to deal with all the bullshit associated with using Facebook. God forbid if Facebook threw me in jail.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2357702]Are there good condoms on the sex-shops of Medellin?

I know condoms have to be available in local pharmacies but I am looking for condoms that are slightly more fancy than the generic.

Anyone have experience buying condoms like Durex Invisible Thin in Medellin or something of that nature like Trojan BareSkin series?

This is not something I can easily order to the house risking having to explain this package to anyone if the shipping idiots don't pack discreet. Or should I buy them on my way to the airport here in NYC instead of doing it in Medellin?[/QUOTE]The Amazon Locker seems designed for this situation.

I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo who has several photos of herself at Energy Living, Blux and other hotels such as the Charlee and Dann Carlton is coming out for $150 K. That Energy Living place looks nice.

However I also noticed that agencies such as La Celestina have come down on their pricing compared to August 2018. One chica I track is down to $340 k for two hours 220 k for one hour. That would be cheaper than I paid 3 Vany's list chicas last year.

It also helps that the dollar is stronger now. 320 K to $100 compared to 300 k to $100 August 2018.

60% of the Tinder chicas accepted 200 k. I was getting fairly specific about what I wanted them to do. Rejections might have been do to the requirements because the chicas that rejected me did not even counter the price. I have a small sample size of 10 matched Tinder chicas so it would not pass a clinical trial. I lhave a certain look I like so I would only like about 5 to 10% of the chicas on Tinder. I rejected about 75% of the chicas that liked me first on Tinder. Of course I am banned on Tinder probably for being too specific. I had to pay $28 so I could swipe in area that was not local. I also found that buying boosts helps.

Oh well, I will see how it all works out next week. If one or two of these Tinder chicas is a keeper, it will have been $60 well spent. 2 of the chicas have a ton of personality on Whatsapp. They are not the best lookers but they are doable. I will just have to more careful on tinder next time.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358101]I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo is coming out for $150 K.

However I also noticed that agencies such as La Celestina have come down on their pricing compared to August 2018. One chica I track is down to $340 k for two hours 220 k for one hour. That would be cheaper than I paid 3 Vany's list chicas last year.[/QUOTE]Maybe mongers are wising up and they are not getting as much business as before.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2357738]Except for 1 time, I always paid afterwards at Energy. I know that Club Sexxy Amigas is a prepay place, but people seem to get better, on average, service there than New Life. Although, New Life does have the better lineup.[/QUOTE]Come to think of it when I was a regular at Energy I used to pay after. I am no longer a regular there. Generally, I get better service at most other casas than New Life but I really like their lineup. Juliana won't let me molest her boobs but by jove she's hot. I really enjoyed banging her and had to pay COP 50 extra for my special thrills, still would not let me at her boobs.

[QUOTE=ElAventurero;2358014]So is Medellin the best city in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Is strawberry the best flavor ice cream?

You can use google translate on the article if you don't understand Spanish.

Bottomline: Scopolamine on ATM keypads might be a risk, but probably not.

Lo pueden drogar ponindole escopolamina en un cajero?

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/otras-ciudades/es-posible-intoxicarse-con-escopolamina-por-el-simple-contacto-395044[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2358148]You can use google translate on the article if you don't understand Spanish.

Bottomline: Scopolamine on ATM keypads might be a risk, but probably not.

Lo pueden drogar ponindole escopolamina en un cajero?

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/otras-ciudades/es-posible-intoxicarse-con-escopolamina-por-el-simple-contacto-395044[/URL][/QUOTE]The USA Embassy recommends that American citizens adhere to the following recommendations to minimize the likelihood of being victimized by scopolamine while in Colombia:

Avoid going into bars or nightclubs alone (although groups have also been targeted).

Never leave drinks or food unattended.

Do not accept food or drinks from strangers.

Do not leave bars, restaurants or nightclubs with strangers.

And I would add to this list, be careful about inviting strangers to your home and seek medical assistance if you think you have been drugged.

MMMm, will be tricky to vacation in Medellin if you cannot order food from a restaurant or drinks. Or pick up chicks from clubs and not bring them back to your apartment.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2357744]Your objective of BBFS and CIP can be found in Colombia, it will be a matter of various factors, including money which I believe your aware of, and I will leave it at that.

In regards to which City for Venez Pussies well of course the border town of Cucuta will have a lot, but I have never been there but there are others who have. Consideration of the climate might be a factor, which you won't be able to beat in Medellin. And El Centro is ground zero for Venez Pussies there as they have taken the place over in my opinion, however there are a lot of fat and ugly ones, but again that is just my opinion.

Another city you didn't mention was Santa Marta, I prefer it over Cartagena, lots of Venez girls, great food, girl friendly hotels, nicer beaches than Cartagena, and cheap compared to Cartagena. More information can be found on that thread.

You will find everything your looking for in Colombia, and I think Medellin will turn out to be the best City for you, but that is just my opinion, others may differ.[/QUOTE]I am aware of the hot climate in Cucuta. I actually enjoy the heat so I don't think that will be too big of a problem for me. I was Cambodia in April and endured through 100 degree temperatures. Just need to make sure the hotel I stay at will have A / C. I am really looking forward to Cucuta. Seems like there is large amount of Venezuela pussy there. So I will probably devote a lot of my time there. Will ask the Venezuela girls for price of regular service first then offer extra for barebacking. I'm sure most of these Venezuela girls are in desperate need of money.

If the Venezuela pussies in el centro Medellin is still strong when I'm there, I will no doubt spend some time there as well. I have a wide range when it comes to taste in women. Not an issue for me if they are fat as long as they are decent looking.

Will probably head to Bogota when I'm in Medellin since the two cities are fairly close and see what kind of Venezuela talent is on offer there. But I will probably skip Cartagena and Santa Marta. I think there will be enough pussies in Cucuta, Medellin, and Bogota for 4 weeks.

For anyone who might be traveling from Brazil to Colombia in the future, just remember that Colombia requires a yellow fever vaccination for entry into Colombia.

[QUOTE=ElAventurero;2358014]So is Medellin the best city in Colombia?[/QUOTE]I have yet to visit Medellin, but I have been to Cartagena. I have also been a sporadic reader of these threads on and off for about ten years. Look at the number of reports in the Cartagena thread compared to Medellin thread. From what I have experienced and what I have read the quality and the price of chicas is way better in Medellin. On the other hand, Cartagena is a better place to visit as a tourist (some may argue different and I welcome their arguments). But again the overall quality of women and the price is probably say better in Medellin.

I am not really a Medellin expert. This trip will put me just over 30 days spent in Medellin. I was looking over my old reports. My first trip to Medellin was 2011.

I did a round at Energy in 2011 and paid $52 for one hour. Today the same hour costs $44. If you convert 2011 USD into 2019 real dollars then in 2011 you paid the equivalent of $58 for one hour at Energy.

Using the Fantasy Energy index, the price for pussy in Medellin has fallen 24% over the last 8 years.

Why I am lucky? I was looking at exchange rates last month and it was 3200 to 1. I was basing all my calculations for this trip on that number. I looked at it today and it is 3400 COP to $1. Wow.

If my math is wrong don't shoot me, just correct it.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358243]I am not really a Medellin expert. This trip will put me just over 30 days spent in Medellin. I was looking over my old reports. My first trip to Medellin was 2011.

I did a round at Energy in 2011 and paid $52 for one hour. Today the same hour costs $44. If you convert 2011 USD into 2019 real dollars then in 2011 you paid the equivalent of $58 for one hour at Energy.

Using the Fantasy Energy index, the price for pussy in Medellin has fallen 24% over the last 8 years.

Why I am lucky? I was looking at exchange rates last month and it was 3200 to 1. I was basing all my calculations for this trip on that number. I looked at it today and it is 3400 COP to $1. Wow.

If my math is wrong don't shoot me, just correct it.[/QUOTE]The exchange rate of dollars to reais (Brazil) is currently also at an all time high of 1:4. I haven't ventured into Colombia lately but am planning a month long trip to Cucuta, Medellin, and Bogota when I return to Brazil.

I have quit my full time job and am now just working part-time, so I have big chunks of times (months) off.

If the currently exchange rate for pesos and reais holds you can be sure I will be spending all of my free time in between the legs of beautiful Brazilians, Venezuelans and Colombians.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358243]I am not really a Medellin expert. This trip will put me just over 30 days spent in Medellin. I was looking over my old reports. My first trip to Medellin was 2011.

I did a round at Energy in 2011 and paid $52 for one hour. Today the same hour costs $44. If you convert 2011 USD into 2019 real dollars then in 2011 you paid the equivalent of $58 for one hour at Energy.

Using the Fantasy Energy index, the price for pussy in Medellin has fallen 24% over the last 8 years.

Why I am lucky? I was looking at exchange rates last month and it was 3200 to 1. I was basing all my calculations for this trip on that number. I looked at it today and it is 3400 COP to $1. Wow.

If my math is wrong don't shoot me, just correct it.[/QUOTE]Where did you exchange your currency at? If an ATM, which specific one?

Looks like you got some pretty generous rates.

Sexy Amiga is at Cra 45 #57-71. Two doors to the Left is 57-61. Its on the corner of Calle 58 on L side. See photo representations. About a 4 min walk from New Life. 10 k cheaper. I like NL better. Hired a chubby 25 yo with great rack. Light skin. Some of the rooms have peeping cracks. Service was cool. Service at NL has been better for me. I wanted to try something new. 3 chicas in the lineup. All doable. 6.5's. I left a 25% tip.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2357738]Except for 1 time, I always paid afterwards at Energy. I know that Club Sexxy Amigas is a prepay place, but people seem to get better, on average, service there than New Life. Although, New Life does have the better lineup.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Muaythai;2358216]MMMm, will be tricky to vacation in Medellin if you cannot order food from a restaurant or drinks. Or pick up chicks from clubs and not bring them back to your apartment.[/QUOTE]Not really. It doesn't say not to order food and drinks from a restaurant. It says not to accept them from strangers. Bars and restaurants won't last long if the owners start drugging all the customers.

However, if you're sitting in a bar and someone comes up and offers you a drink you didn't order, don't drink it.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358243]... I looked at it today and it is 3400 COP to $1. Wow...[/QUOTE]I've been making the same calculation. I want to get there before they dollarize the peso. But, the place we really should be thinking about is Argentina. Their peso dropped 25% today. It was 4 pesos to the dollar in 2010. Now it's 55!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2357744]............ And El Centro is ground zero for Venez Pussies there as they have taken the place over in my opinion, however there are a lot of fat and ugly ones, but again that is just my opinion.............[/QUOTE]I have been in Medellin now for close to three weeks and I am yet to see the multitude of Venezuelans of which you speak. Firstly, there are much less in the casas than when I was last here in April. There are much less beggars holding signs stating (Soy Venezuelano etc. "). I have been walking all over El Centro looking for the Vene beauties with very little success. So far I have only sessioned Colombian street walkers and would definitely not pass on quality Venez punani if found. Where are they? Surfer, thanks for your input but I would really like other mongers to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking that those I saw last April have moved on to somewhere else.

Is it a problem bringing chicas back to vacation apartments in Medellin the way it is in Cartagena? Do I need to be looking for a Chica friendly place or am I safe to just find an Airbnb?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358273]I have been in Medellin now for close to three weeks and I am yet to see the multitude of Venezuelans of which you speak. Firstly, there are much less in the casas than when I was last here in April. There are much less beggars holding signs stating (Soy Venezuelano etc. "). I have been walking all over El Centro looking for the Vene beauties with very little success. So far I have only sessioned Colombian street walkers and would definitely not pass on quality Venez punani if found. Where are they? Surfer, thanks for your input but I would really like other mongers to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking that those I saw last April have moved on to somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Wow, good to know from someone on the ground. Maybe they went back to Venezuela? Have you been to Bogota? Supposedly there are lots of Venezuela girls in Santa Fe? I'm planning to go to Cucuta, which I know for sure will be full of them.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2358263]I've been making the same calculation. I want to get there before they dollarize the peso. But, the place we really should be thinking about is Argentina. Their peso dropped 25% today. It was 4 pesos to the dollar in 2010. Now it's 55![/QUOTE]I was in Argentina in April. I was getting 42 to 1. A chica I liked that I payed $100 to is now getting $80.

[URL]http://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes/Lucia_15-2697-7462_1054.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358273]I have been in Medellin now for close to three weeks and I am yet to see the multitude of Venezuelans of which you speak. Firstly, there are much less in the casas than when I was last here in April. There are much less beggars holding signs stating (Soy Venezuelano etc. "). I have been walking all over El Centro looking for the Vene beauties with very little success. So far I have only sessioned Colombian street walkers and would definitely not pass on quality Venez punani if found. Where are they? Surfer, thanks for your input but I would really like other mongers to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking that those I saw last April have moved on to somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Turgid, you are doing nothing wrong, I have not been specific as to where I have seen them all and it hasn't been in the Casa's or the bars, but specifically in and around the Park directly in front of the Museum and the pedestrian walkway to the Veracruz Church. The last few days I have seen more of them then I have ever seen, and if you go there around 4 in the afternoon you will just end up shaking your head as to how many there are.

Today I was in El Centro at 11 AM and again at 5 PM. I ran into one of my Colombian regulars at 5 PM and when we got to the room the first thing she said was that she had never seen so many girls out there, and I asked her if they were Vennies which I knew, and she said yes, and that they have been running the Colombians out. And recently there have been a lot of new prettier and thin ones showing up that I have never seen before besides the Fuglies.

If your still in town, go down there tomorrow afternoon and hang out for a while and you will see them all. You can't miss them.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358234]If the Venezuela pussies in el centro Medellin is still strong when I'm there, I will no doubt spend some time there as well. I have a wide range when it comes to taste in women. Not an issue for me if they are fat as long as they are decent looking.[/QUOTE]Well if you don't have a problem with decent looking beached whales, your going to have a field day and the pick of the litter in Medellin with all the fat Venezuelans. In fact, you could easily line up a couple of tag teams to take "arriba" who will do everything your looking for. Sounds like your going to be cream pieing a lot of ladies on your trip! Your my hero, have a good time and report back on your escapades!

Had a nice time in Medellin. It was my first I got confused and spent more money as per standards since everything was dam cheap. 4th day I went to Loutron again this time my experience was not that good compared to my previous visit. I planned to choose a girl with real boobs since I was too bored of girls who did cheap surgery soo hesitant when touching, as if they going to blast. The place had long wait time of 45 min. I went with a girl 7/10 she had braces on her teeth. She was the only 1 with real boobs LOL. She wasn't that energetic but co-operated also she used to check time on her phone. I wasn't interested in completing full hour. I just digged in and out of there ASAP. Same night we went Babylon club which is right opposite to ART hotel and my hotel receptionist recommended it as high end club but not close to what I imagined but Girls in the club are local, good looking and with groups or boyfriends. Many reserved tables before. Corona and cover was bit expensive I didn't care something to drink and stock on the pray. Not a place for gringos same as luxury club. I didn't see any gringo on Saturday night. It was too dark. Place was like a cave and music was kind of fire alarm siren we couldn't stand anymore. Last 2 days I sticked with same girl from Colombian cupid. I usually don't like arranged meetings thinking its not safe. I took a chance since my friends were there. She was 5/10 down to everything and a true GFE. So I didn't bother to go to centro may be next visit. I spent 900 mil for 2 days not sure whether its high or low. I liked the experience, she offered everything and hungry for sex, we spoke for quite sometime. I have attached 2 pics of her. Overall maybe I didn't utilize my time properly and missed few places but Vacation was good. I was relaxed and now back to my binary life and felt New York is so overrated on everything pussy to parking when I reached midnight and gave 83 US $ for uber for 30 min ride. I definitely visiting Medellin again maybe November or December not sure.

User guide: Do not go to gusto, geisha, Loutron and high end clubs.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358101]I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo who has several photos of herself at Energy Living, Blux and other hotels such as the Charlee and Dann Carlton is coming out for $150 K. That Energy Living place looks nice.

However I also noticed that agencies such as La Celestina have come down on their pricing compared to August 2018. One chica I track is down to $340 k for two hours 220 k for one hour. That would be cheaper than I paid 3 Vany's list chicas last year.

It also helps that the dollar is stronger now. 320 K to $100 compared to 300 k to $100 August 2018.

60% of the Tinder chicas accepted 200 k. I was getting fairly specific about what I wanted them to do. Rejections might have been do to the requirements because the chicas that rejected me did not even counter the price. I have a small sample size of 10 matched Tinder chicas so it would not pass a clinical trial. I lhave a certain look I like so I would only like about 5 to 10% of the chicas on Tinder. I rejected about 75% of the chicas that liked me first on Tinder. Of course I am banned on Tinder probably for being too specific. I had to pay $28 so I could swipe in area that was not local. I also found that buying boosts helps.

Oh well, I will see how it all works out next week. If one or two of these Tinder chicas is a keeper, it will have been $60 well spent. 2 of the chicas have a ton of personality on Whatsapp. They are not the best lookers but they are doable. I will just have to more careful on tinder next time.[/QUOTE]The favorable currency fluctuations have no impact on the ground except to make you more of a spendthrift. You are in Colombia, learn to think in colombian pesos. Anytime a chick quotes me in $, she is off the list, and I just reply back asking why $ in Colombia. The next quote is always smaller in COP and I never respond.

The ones that ask you what you are willing to pay are better.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2358326]The favorable currency fluctuations have no impact on the ground except to make you more of a spendthrift. You are in Colombia, learn to think in colombian pesos. Anytime a chick quotes me in $, she is off the list, and I just reply back asking why $ in Colombia. The next quote is always smaller in COP and I never respond.

The ones that ask you what you are willing to pay are better.[/QUOTE]If a girl brings up the $/ Col exchange rate, my policy is to ignore them, cut off all contact. It's a very good sign that it won't be a good experience.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2358279]Is it a problem bringing chicas back to vacation apartments in Medellin the way it is in Cartagena? Do I need to be looking for a Chica friendly place or am I safe to just find an Airbnb?[/QUOTE]Every Airbnb is different. The owners decide on the rules about guests. So you have to ask if they allow guests. I have yet to find one that I was comfortable bringing guests to.

And basically same with apartments.

So yes, whether it is Airbnb's, apartments, or hotels the only way to know is to ask, if it is not clearly stated in the rules or description.

[QUOTE=Muaythai;2358216]MMMm, will be tricky to vacation in Medellin if you cannot order food from a restaurant or drinks. Or pick up chicks from clubs and not bring them back to your apartment.[/QUOTE]I think casa's are still the best option for fucking, you can get posted up in one, bring like 200 USD and just bang out like 5 chicas, that should satisfy any libido quota.

I would also start reading prepago reviews off CatadorColombia to see which ones don't have a smelly poon, which of them are actually real, which one upsells on Sexo Oral Natural, etc etc etc. You can order a legit one to your chica-friendly hotel room. I think you will end up paying around 20-30% lower than a girl off Parque Lleras, at least comparing the prices listed of ISG members on this thread. Their thread also covers street walker action as well as reviews on the casas.

Considering the exchange rate of from ANY gringo currency right now, I bet if you stick to 4-5 star restaurants in Medellin, I cannot imagine they risk an international reputation to drug someone for a few grand and a camera at best. Ready-made deep fried empanadas off the street or in corner stores, I also cannot imagine be drugged, eat them immediately anyways. There is also the rappi food delivery app, or uber-eats.

I've always been a fan of just buying the destination currency in my home-country, then just bring it into customs in an envelope. When that runs out, besides not risking a bandit at the mall, I can't imagine taking an uber to a bank to get money, then taking an uber str8 back to your hotel wouldn't be the safest of bets.

Those are genuine warnings against drugging. But I think most are easily avoidable, especially if you flew in predominantly for some pussies / assholes on the cheap anyways. There is a "street-wise" way to go about anything, especially if you mentally prepare for all the possible treacheries. Realize if you get picked for the armed robbery, its just your day to give it up. No level of preparation will surmount to a bandit's sudden whim, we can just try to hedge against all that by moving in the shadows as you go about banging out the beautiful insides of Colombianas and Venezuelanas.

[QUOTE=Combo;2358330]If a girl brings up the $/ Col exchange rate, my policy is to ignore them, cut off all contact. It's a very good sign that it won't be a good experience.[/QUOTE]This goes to show how much of a business this is for these women when their in tune with exchange rates, etc. Business women all the way, entrepreneurs to a certain extent. None of my crew has any idea what the exchange rates are, and some don't even know what US Dollars are if you can believe that. Totally foreign to them.

Yesterday I gave one of my regulars 45,000 COP at the end of our session and she just looked at me and thanked me profusely. A lot of times I have a hard time believing how little $ 13.50 is to me, and how much it is for others. I grapple with this at times, and the innocence I see from some of the women I go with who are so poor, and are just trying to make ends meet is saddening.

And then you have the "professional hooker businesswomen" you've mentioned, who are mini-bankers, kind of like stock traders and most likely will be delivering their clients a very rushed, mechanical, rule laden session.

I know it's not the same for every girl but in general. I know 150 mil is average for a session. Does it include BBBJ, multiple pop, CIM, etc. I know it's best to talk with the girl about all the extra before the session but that make it too much of a business transaction. And I know it is a transaction but I don't want to make it so damn obvious. I prefer GFE or at least the illusion of it. If the girl ask for tip for extra, is 20-50 mil a reasonable tip.

And what about todo la noche price? 300 mil on average?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358101]I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo who has several photos of herself at Energy Living, Blux and other hotels such as the Charlee and Dann Carlton is coming out for $150 K. That Energy Living place looks nice.

However I also noticed that agencies such as La Celestina have come down on their pricing compared to August 2018. One chica I track is down to $340 k for two hours 220 k for one hour. That would be cheaper than I paid 3 Vany's list chicas last year.

It also helps that the dollar is stronger now. 320 K to $100 compared to 300 k to $100 August 2018.

60% of the Tinder chicas accepted 200 k. I was getting fairly specific about what I wanted them to do. Rejections might have been do to the requirements because the chicas that rejected me did not even counter the price. I have a small sample size of 10 matched Tinder chicas so it would not pass a clinical trial. I lhave a certain look I like so I would only like about 5 to 10% of the chicas on Tinder. I rejected about 75% of the chicas that liked me first on Tinder. Of course I am banned on Tinder probably for being too specific. I had to pay $28 so I could swipe in area that was not local. I also found that buying boosts helps..[/QUOTE]It's not that hard to believe. I imagine, with new guys, she starts out asking 200-300 k. How far she comes down depends on how bad she needs the money and how the guy approaches her.

I'm sure she's seeing a lot of repeat customers. If she's only taking 5 citas a week, that's 3 million a month. Plus tips, plus taxis, plus gifts. That's not bad for a 10-12 hour work week in Medellin.

I'm looking for the cheapest (safe) places in the world where I can get light-skinned GFE providers for kissing with tongue.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358280]Wow, good to know from someone on the ground. Maybe they went back to Venezuela? Have you been to Bogota? Supposedly there are lots of Venezuela girls in Santa Fe? I'm planning to go to Cucuta, which I know for sure will be full of them.[/QUOTE]I have posted pictures in the Bogota thread of Venezuelan chicks lined up on the street in Santa Fe. Not sure whether it matters if a place is full of them or partially full of them unless you plan on fucking hundreds. You can only fuck one at a time.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358287]...........Today I was in El Centro at 11 AM and again at 5 PM. I ran into one of my Colombian regulars at 5 PM and when we got to the room the first thing she said was that she had never seen so many girls out there, and I asked her if they were Vennies which I knew, and she said yes, and that they have been running the Colombians out. And recently there have been a lot of new prettier and thin ones showing up that I have never seen before besides the Fuglies............[/QUOTE]Why are you the only monger saying about all these Venezuelans? Can anyone else corroborate? I am here and have been seeing mostly Colombians on the streets and although I have sessioned a few (Colombians only) I have found the street scene to be somewhat dismal. Casas are much better. For example, there's hardly anything to be found on the streets comparable to New Life's lineup in my books.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2358326]The favorable currency fluctuations have no impact on the ground except to make you more of a spendthrift. You are in Colombia, learn to think in colombian pesos. Anytime a chick quotes me in $, she is off the list, and I just reply back asking why $ in Colombia. The next quote is always smaller in COP and I never respond.

The ones that ask you what you are willing to pay are better.[/QUOTE]Where or when did I say I negotiated in dollars? I like to convert to dollars because I get paid in dollars, travel all over the world not just Colombia and it is a dimension of comparing experiences between countries. Which was cheaper paying 230,000 COP or 2500 Baht for 90 minutes of massage and sex?

I always negotiate services before money. Price does not matter if the chica will not perform certain services. I also want the chica to be happy. Nothing worse than to try having sex with a sullen chica. If that happens then I usually try to immediately schedule another experience which ends up costing me more money. My methods are not foolproof. I still have bad experiences.

I tend to play in the mid-tier markets which is where I am the most comfortable. I need Pollo Negro to gentrify Centro as ISG fears he will before I go back down there.

Here is the sum total of what I know about the inexpensive markets. Chicas Lindas was a superior casa to New Life in 2011 based on my experience. Right now on the local Board, the guys rank Zandaly over New Life. On ISG, Chicas Lindas and Zandaly hardly ever get a mention.

I am not on the ground yet, but based on Whatsapp conversations, prices in Colombian pesos are lower than what they were in August 2018. Plus there seems to be many more chicas available as I am getting more Tinder matches than last year.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2358254]Where did you exchange your currency at? If an ATM, which specific one?

Looks like you got some pretty generous rates.[/QUOTE]I use a debit card with no foreign currency fees and no ATM fees. However you pay them by having money in a brokerage account. If you buy a CD they get. 0025 per year. If you use their ETFs they get fees. So nothing is free.

I recommend Servibanca ATM. They are the green ones. [URL]https://atmhero.net/countries/8541/servibanca-colombia/[/URL] Itau and Servibanca have an affliiation so they both have the same withdrawal limits. I don't exchange in Colombia. The one time I did I did not get a good rate. I learned my lesson.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358502]It's not that hard to believe. I imagine, with new guys, she starts out asking 200-300 k. How far she comes down depends on how bad she needs the money and how the guy approaches her.

I'm sure she's seeing a lot of repeat customers. If she's only taking 5 citas a week, that's 3 million a month. Plus tips, plus taxis, plus gifts. That's not bad for a 10-12 hour work week in Medellin.[/QUOTE]She will do my 90 minute program for 200 COP plus taxi. It is the same price I am offering the Tinder chicas.

One reason I am surprised is that I found her through that Instagram model with the 25 k followers. There are pictures with the two of them together on the model's Facebook page. I may do a cita with her to see if I can get to the model. Remember the Instagram model was the one who matched me on Tinder but never responded back to my message. I speculated on ISG if I offered her 640 K COP on the spot if I could have been meeting her within an hour. You thought not. I can afford to go on one lark per trip.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358502]It's not that hard to believe. I imagine, with new guys, she starts out asking 200-300 k. How far she comes down depends on how bad she needs the money and how the guy approaches her.

I'm sure she's seeing a lot of repeat customers. If she's only taking 5 citas a week, that's 3 million a month. Plus tips, plus taxis, plus gifts. That's not bad for a 10-12 hour work week in Medellin.[/QUOTE]These prices seem a little steep. Is this a Facebook / Tinder thing?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358565]Why are you the only monger saying about all these Venezuelans? Can anyone else corroborate? I am here and have been seeing mostly Colombians on the streets and although I have sessioned a few (Colombians only) I have found the street scene to be somewhat dismal. Casas are much better. For example, there's hardly anything to be found on the streets comparable to New Life's lineup in my books.[/QUOTE]To be clear, I have never made a comparison of the Chicas in the Casa's compared to the SW's in EL Centro, in fact I have made mostly made disparaging remarks about the Venezuelans in my posts. I agree with you that the line-up at New Life is better than what can be found looks wise versus the SW's, but everybody rolls different and the casa's appear to be your personal preference versus mine which is the SW scene. We are both equals here in partaking in what we both like, and that's all that matters.

As far as other board members witnessing what I have, Pollo Negro has talked about his observations / experiences with the Venezuelans in the specific area I mentioned in my post. The other El Centro street rats on this board if they elect to do so will also be able to confirm what I have observed, at least the ones that live here or have been here for a while.

Lucky for me I am in EL Centro in the area I mentioned six days a week typically in the afternoons so I have a lot of time on the ground in this area. I speak with lots of Chicas and ask them where they are from, etc. So that's how I know what the population of the Chica's are, which has been confirmed by my Colombian regulars.

Planning a trip to either Medellin or Sao Paulo and it's a bit tough to decide. Are people using their real facebooks to contact Medellin facebook girls? I'd rather opt to make a fake one but not sure how serious girls would take me if I had no pics or anything. Brazil seems to have a big twitter presence, are there Medellin girls out there on twitter?

I see that the options for P4P are the casas, street walkers, independents on facebook and clubs / strip clubs. If I wanted the most gorgeous where should I start? And how reliable is photoprepagos, the options seem limited there in comparison to Brazil's counterpart.

Either way hope to make a trip out there soon and add some report.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2358562]I have posted pictures in the Bogota thread of Venezuelan chicks lined up on the street in Santa Fe. Not sure whether it matters if a place is full of them or partially full of them unless you plan on fucking hundreds. You can only fuck one at a time.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your off your game Mr. E if your not fucking more than one at a time.

Maybe you need a check up, and need to start taking Testosterone to get back on your game!

I use WhatsApp on my Iphone here in USA but understand that a new phone or SIM card is needed once in MDE. I would welcome advice on finding complete understanding of the cellphone & WhatsApp solution in MDE. Thank you.

[QUOTE=GMoney582;2358595]These prices seem a little steep. Is this a Facebook / Tinder thing?[/QUOTE]She is A Facebook chica that has hundreds of American friends and has several photos of herself at Energy Living. I surmised that a chica like that had to be getting more than the 150 K that seems to be the agreed upon ISG Facebook rate. But now based on further evidence I think I am wrong. One of my good ISG travel buddies would take a turn with her in heartbeat. We are a good travel buddies because when we walk into a place we both have different tastes as to what is best in class. We don't fight over the same chica.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358635]To be clear, I have never made a comparison of the Chicas in the Casa's compared to the SW's in EL Centro, in fact I have made mostly made disparaging remarks about the Venezuelans in my posts. I agree with you that the line-up at New Life is better than what can be found looks wise versus the SW's, but everybody rolls different and the casa's appear to be your personal preference versus mine which is the SW scene. We are both equals here in partaking in what we both like, and that's all that matters.

As far as other board members witnessing what I have, Pollo Negro has talked about his observations / experiences with the Venezuelans in the specific area I mentioned in my post. The other El Centro street rats on this board if they elect to do so will also be able to confirm what I have observed, at least the ones that live here or have been here for a while.

Lucky for me I am in EL Centro in the area I mentioned six days a week typically in the afternoons so I have a lot of time on the ground in this area. I speak with lots of Chicas and ask them where they are from, etc. So that's how I know what the population of the Chica's are, which has been confirmed by my Colombian regulars.[/QUOTE]I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358683]We are a good travel buddies because when we walk into a place we both have different tastes as to what is best in class. We don't fight over the same chica.[/QUOTE]One of my good buddies lives in downtown Medellin. We first met in Rio in 2003. We went to 4x4 termas and ended up liking the same girl. No need to fight over her. We both went back and fucked her at the same time. She tried to kiss him after I skeeted in her mouth.

[QUOTE=GMoney582;2358595]These prices seem a little steep. Is this a Facebook / Tinder thing?[/QUOTE]What do you consider steep? I speculated the Facebook girl mentioned might be available for 150 k, however when she's talking to a new guy she'll probably ask for 200-300 k. That's now been confirmed.

It's pretty common, any time you're dealing with a freelancer, for her to start at a higher price. At the current rate 300 k is less than $100. This girl could get $300 per hour in the US. Some guy who's never been outside the US before might be thrilled to get her for under $100.

The going rate of 150 k is less than $50.200 k is only about $16 more. Is that too much? Most Facebook girls are fine with staying 2 or 3 hours for 150-200 k. Downtown casas charge about 50 k for 30 minutes.

It comes down to knowing your own preferences. I like to spend some time talking, take a shower together or sit in the jacuzzi for awhile, get in lots of foreplay, spend some time trying to make sure she enjoys herself, work through several positions and then relax together for awhile before grabbing a shower to clean up. With some girls I can stretch that out to 3 hours. While I might be able to do that in a casa, it'll cost me 250-300 k.

With Facebook girls, I won't deal with time constraints. If a girl mentions a cost per hour, I pass. In a few cases I'll let them know they'll be there for 3 hours.

Some guys aren't interested in that. 20-30 minutes for 30-50 k is perfect for them.

[QUOTE=Jaytostore;2358319]Had a nice time in Medellin. It was my first I got confused and spent more money as per standards since everything was dam cheap.... Last 2 days I sticked with same girl from Colombian cupid. I usually don't like arranged meetings thinking its not safe. I took a chance since my friends were there. She was 5/10 down to everything and a true GFE. So I didn't bother to go to centro may be next visit. I spent 900 mil for 2 days not sure whether its high or low. I liked the experience, she offered everything and hungry for sex, we spoke for quite sometime. I have attached 2 pics of her. Overall maybe I didn't utilize my time properly and missed few places but Vacation was good. I was relaxed and now back to my binary life and felt New York is so overrated on everything pussy to parking when I reached midnight and gave 83 US $ for uber for 30 min ride. I definitely visiting Medellin again maybe November or December not sure.

User guide: Do not go to gusto, geisha, Loutron and high end clubs.[/QUOTE]Great report Jaytosore! Don't worry too much about if you overpaid for the girls. It was your first time in Colombia so you can now use that experience on your future visits. Sounds like you had a good time with most of the girls so that is all that matters. That girl in the pic you posted she's pretty cute, I would rate her a 7/10 as oppose to 5/10. Are those pics recent or are they old?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358287]Turgid, you are doing nothing wrong, I have not been specific as to where I have seen them all and it hasn't been in the Casa's or the bars, but specifically in and around the Park directly in front of the Museum and the pedestrian walkway to the Veracruz Church. The last few days I have seen more of them then I have ever seen, and if you go there around 4 in the afternoon you will just end up shaking your head as to how many there are.

If your still in town, go down there tomorrow afternoon and hang out for a while and you will see them all. You can't miss them.[/QUOTE]Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2358691]One of my good buddies lives in downtown Medellin. We first met in Rio in 2003. We went to 4x4 termas and ended up liking the same girl. No need to fight over her. We both went back and fucked her at the same time. She tried to kiss him after I skeeted in her mouth.[/QUOTE]I might be homophobic. I still get the willies when I think about a particular scene from The Grafenburg Spot. [URL]http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=grafenberg+spot/year=1985/grafenberg-spot.Htm.[/URL].

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2358496]I know it's not the same for every girl but in general. I know 150 mil is average for a session. Does it include BBBJ, multiple pop, CIM, etc. I know it's best to talk with the girl about all the extra before the session but that make it too much of a business transaction. And I know it is a transaction but I don't want to make it so damn obvious. I prefer GFE or at least the illusion of it. If the girl ask for tip for extra, is 20-50 mil a reasonable tip.

And what about todo la noche price? 300 mil on average?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes and yes. You are in the right ball park. They usually ask for taxi on top of the 150 k negotiated and I preset that usually at 20-25 k or so and let it go. If the service is particularly good, or I negotiated an extra or some such thing, I round up to 200 k and that always makes them happy. These are good easy money opportunities in Medellin right now. For those of you that think more $ gets you finer pussy or performance, I wish you well. My experience is that the correlation is not clear. Read on a few pages earlier about the dude with his Gusto's write up.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2358562]I have posted pictures in the Bogota thread of Venezuelan chicks lined up on the street in Santa Fe. Not sure whether it matters if a place is full of them or partially full of them unless you plan on fucking hundreds. You can only fuck one at a time.[/QUOTE]It all about the optics for me. Some member posted in the Sao Paulo forum that he prefers the smaller clubs of 10-15 girls. But for me, the more, the merrier. L find that even in 4 x 4 on a busy night does not have the amount of girls I like to see in one place. Would have to at least double that.

I wish there was a Latin version of Pattaya or AC with all Latina pussies as oppose to Asians.

Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girls (not including the flight). Medellin just keeps bringing me back.

Hey guys,

I live in Jamaica & I have a Scotiabank bank (Canadian bank) a / see & visa debit card, my account is in Jamaican currency and not USA the. Would I have any issues withdrawing Colombian pesos from the ATM? I Plan on bringing a small amount of cash ($200 usd or so) to exchange at the airport and then withdraw the rest at ATM's, do you think I would have any issues?

Also, how's Colombia in October & November?

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2358496]I know it's not the same for every girl but in general. I know 150 mil is average for a session. Does it include BBBJ, multiple pop, CIM, etc. I know it's best to talk with the girl about all the extra before the session but that make it too much of a business transaction. And I know it is a transaction but I don't want to make it so damn obvious. I prefer GFE or at least the illusion of it. If the girl ask for tip for extra, is 20-50 mil a reasonable tip.

And what about todo la noche price? 300 mil on average?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]4 little words: "Your Mileage May Vary. ".

Almost every Facebook girl I've been with has been fine with BBBJ. I never ask for CIM.

As for multiple pops, that's a definite YMMV item. I've had several offer and or try. However, they were all girls who really enjoyed the session.

If you have a long list of requirements, you should clear everything up before. You should also expect the price to go up. If she's going to do more than usual, she will want to be paid more than usual.

Personally, I never bother with any of that. We chat, agree on a price and a time and I go from there. If she's not into kissing me, I'm not pushing it. If she doesn't want to do BBBJ, fine. If there's a position she doesn't like, skip it. If I'm doing my part, those things are almost never an issue.

Toda la noche is generally double the amount. If she's asking for 200 k, she'll probably want 400 k for overnight.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358704]Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.[/QUOTE]It is a small area with only a few buildings between them. Once you are there, you won't miss it based the description.

So is Medellin the best place in Colombia?

[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;2358722]Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girls[/QUOTE]As with anywhere else, it would depend on where you get your girls. In Medellin you can go to Gusto's and get a girl for $300 or have a casa chick come and stay when she gets off work for $40. In Thailand you can go to a gogo bar and spend $200 to get a chick or you can do like I have done for the last umpteen years and get a freelancer to come stay all night for $30. This is a free one, but you get the idea...

I would not be surprised. I have not talked to her in a while, but she goes with volume. And she's gotten a little chubby since she got her fake boobs and ass. So 150 K is very believable.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358101]I find it hard to believe that a popular Facebook chica like Yisela Restrepo who has several photos of herself at Energy Living, Blux and other hotels such as the Charlee and Dann Carlton is coming out for $150 K. That Energy Living place looks nice.

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[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358697]Great report Jaytosore! Don't worry too much about if you overpaid for the girls. It was your first time in Colombia so you can now use that experience on your future visits. Sounds like you had a good time with most of the girls so that is all that matters. That girl in the pic you posted she's pretty cute, I would rate her a 7/10 as oppose to 5/10. Are those pics recent or are they old?[/QUOTE]From few weeks back. Sorry amount of Plastic girls in Colombia made my rating system go haywire LOL.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358704]Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.[/QUOTE]Find the museum. If you're facing the entrance, you're standing in the park, Plaza Botero. It's impossible to miss, since it's full of Botero statues. Now turn left. Walk until you see a white church on your right. That's Iglesia Veracruz. On the south side of the church there's a pedestrian street. That's the walkway.

To get your bearings. Facing the Museo de Antioquia, you are facing west. Behind you, to the east is the metro. Or if you prefer, on the east side of the plaza is the Palace of Culture, something else impossible to miss. Conejitas is to the north. Veracruz church is to the south.

[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;2358722]Am I wrong in saying that there is no better place to monger in the world right now? I'd love an opinion saying there are better places with better GFE for the price. I have wanted to go to Thailand for a while, but the prices seem out of control for the girls (not including the flight). Medellin just keeps bringing me back.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're wrong.

You're wrong because it's subjective. Somewhere there's a guy who thinks an Asian Massage Parlor in Indianapolis is the greatest spot in the world, and he's paying $240 for 30 minutes of CFS and CBJ, from a girl who's doing 10-15 guys a day, without a shower.

For me, Medellin is currently the best. I have friends there. I know my way around the city. I know where to find the girls I want no matter what my mood is. I know where to eat, where to drink and where to go when I don't know what I want to do. The climate is always in my comfort zone. I even had an umbrella at my friend's apartment until someone stole it last month.

The prices for everything are reasonable, the people are friendly, the public transportation is cheap and efficient. I also know enough of the language to get by.

However, if I spent a year in Thailand, Vietnam, Russia, Germany, Brazil, or just about anywhere else (assuming it was in my budget), I'd probably like that place the best. Or maybe after 3 weeks I'd be wishing I was back in Medellin.

I would like to experience Macau before I get too old to enjoy it. That probably won't happen since I'm beginning to suspect I'm already too old to enjoy it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358688]I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.[/QUOTE]Yes there are quite a few fat and ugly ones I call "fuglies" but as of lately there have been some prettier thin ones. And since March of your last visit there has been a large influx of them. Thanks for confirming my observations, hopefully others including my skeptics can partake in the bounty as there are plenty to go around if your into SW's and are not looking for a beauty queen!

I'm headed there this morning looking for a new Vene to add to my stable.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358704]Can you be more specific of the location? The park you mentioned is it "Plaza Botero"? The museo de Antioquia is right next to it (on google map). And the Veracruz church you mentioned is it between Calle 52 and Calle 51? Trying to pinpoint the location down so I know exactly where to go when I arrive.[/QUOTE]You have the location correct, to better orientate yourself, go to the main entrance of the Museum, stand in front of the Museum and look towards the Metro line. There will be lots of statues there and a park. There are girls scattered around sitting in the park, on the benches, etc. The highest concentration of girls will be standing at the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52 to the north side of the Museum, also there are lots of girls hanging close by to the ice cream / yogurt stand on the corner at that intersection. There are girls out early in the morning in the park directly in front of the Museum but the best times are late afternoon. And besides this area, you can go down a block to Carrea 51 which has a string of bars with lots of girls hanging out in front. I don't usually pull girls from this area. There are Vennies there, however the greatest concentration is in the area I mentioned as a lot of the Vennies stay apart from the Colombians as they have invaded their turf. If your looking for beauty queens and / or have no Spanish speaking skills, I suggest you go to New Life, as that suits others better than the SW scene. There are lots of fuglies out there, but some gems can be found with patience. Please post your observations after trolling the area.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358716]

I wish there was a Latin version of Pattaya or AC with all Latina pussies as oppose to Asians.[/QUOTE]Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2358679]I use WhatsApp on my Iphone here in USA but understand that a new phone or SIM card is needed once in MDE. I would welcome advice on finding complete understanding of the cellphone & WhatsApp solution in MDE. Thank you.[/QUOTE]You don't need to change anything to use Whatsapp in Medellin. Some people say you should get a Colombian sim card because that will make the ladies think you live there. To me, that is nonsense. In fact, you can take the sim card out of your phone and still use Whatsapp. It is only needed when you register with Whatsapp or you change phones. Whatsapp uses the Internet, not cell phone companies. You can get a Colombian sim card if you want to call or text people in Medellin. Even that will not affect your Whatsapp.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2358920]You don't need to change anything to use Whatsapp in Medellin. Whatsapp uses the Internet, not cell phone companies. You can get a Colombian sim card if you want to call or text people in Medellin. Even that will not affect your Whatsapp.[/QUOTE]I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2358898]Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.[/QUOTE]Yes HELP in Rio brings back many fond memories for me on my 2 visits / stays in Rio back in 2000, fuck 19 years ago and just reading the name stirs up shit in the bowels of my soul, heck I wonder if people will still be talking about HELP 50 or 100 years from now, hehehehe, I fell in love (lust) every night I walked into HELP and sometime wonder where those cuties that I wifed up with ended up, probably 5 kids by 4 different dudes and living in a favela in Rio, sad but reality of life in Brazil.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=PilotPete;2358679]I use WhatsApp on my Iphone here in USA but understand that a new phone or SIM card is needed once in MDE. I would welcome advice on finding complete understanding of the cellphone & WhatsApp solution in MDE. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Control's your WhatsApp account, not the sim card. If you arrive in a new country and log in with your old email, all of your old contacts and everything will load to the new phone, it's not that complicated. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358273]I have been in Medellin now for close to three weeks and I am yet to see the multitude of Venezuelans of which you speak. Firstly, there are much less in the casas than when I was last here in April. There are much less beggars holding signs stating (Soy Venezuelano etc. "). I have been walking all over El Centro looking for the Vene beauties with very little success. So far I have only sessioned Colombian street walkers and would definitely not pass on quality Venez punani if found. Where are they? Surfer, thanks for your input but I would really like other mongers to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm thinking that those I saw last April have moved on to somewhere else.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358280]Wow, good to know from someone on the ground. Maybe they went back to Venezuela? Have you been to Bogota? Supposedly there are lots of Venezuela girls in Santa Fe? I'm planning to go to Cucuta, which I know for sure will be full of them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Surfer500;2358287]Turgid, you are doing nothing wrong, I have not been specific as to where I have seen them all and it hasn't been in the Casa's or the bars, but specifically in and around the Park directly in front of the Museum and the pedestrian walkway to the Veracruz Church. The last few days I have seen more of them then I have ever seen, and if you go there around 4 in the afternoon you will just end up shaking your head as to how many there are..[/QUOTE]I agree with Surfer observation and I too hear the same and experience the same. Just yesterday I spent 6 hours doing normal stuff with a Venezuelan girl I befriended at one of those small bars and we hit it off and so I invited her to spend the day with me, get this I have not banged this beauty yet but working on it, know that some of them take some time to break through but when you do you get a sweet and fun loving cutie, They are a bit different of culture from the Colombian putas when it comes to partying and fucking.

The fact is that the Venezuelans are in every nook and cranny in Medellin, I mean everywhere and yes I have never seen so many chicas in Botero and the Vera as there are now. This last Sunday I sat in the museum cafe patio, which adjacent to the Botero plaza, and sipping my coffee for almost 2 hours and watched and observed the people and was in awe how many workers were out in the afternoon.

I will undoubtedly be out in Botero this afternoon and expect to see the same numbers.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2358924]I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.[/QUOTE]Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi because they use CDMA, those particular bands are not available in Colombia, unless you're using Google-Fi. AT&T, T-Mobile, and Metro PCS phones work in Colombia with simply changing the SIM Card. If the phone is unlocked, but it is a Verizon, Boost, or Sprint phones, they will not work, I have tried, trust me on this. The easiest way is to have a travel phone, but to each his own. Right now I own a Samsung A50 with a dual SIM card, I use it in the US under metro PCS and in Colombia under Claro. I have a friend who buys my a monthly plan for 40,000 cop the day before I arrive and as soon as I land, I turn on the claro sim card and boom, I'm up and running. The funny thing is this, I paid about $225 usd for this Samsung A50 and it has a really good camera on the phone while in Colombia earlier this year. The same phone is nearly $425 usd in the united states. If you want to minimize the amount of a travel phone, go into any pawn shop and look for a metro or unlocked Samsung J3 prime phone, they are going for about $50-$75 usd and they will do everything you need while in Medellin, a SIM card is $5,000 cop, and a monthly plan is $40,000 cop for a total of about $17 usd. So once again, the easiest way to handle the phone situation in Colombia, come to Colombia with Google Fi or have a cheap unlocked phone to insert a Colombian sim and then by a cheap monthly plan. Pollo Negro is out!

Mr Enternational,

The best way to close a deal in Colombia, is to have boots on the ground and negotiate when you are present. This is a business for these girls with all having different reasons for being in it, but one outcome, to obtain as many pesos as possible. A girl can tell you through facebook that she will date you for $150,000 cop and another Gringo has her on a date and offering $200,000 cop for a few more hours, what do you think the chica is going to do? You get the idea. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2358924]I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country.[/QUOTE]I have Verizon with International service and my phone works here just like in the USA. If your carrier is Verizon all you need to do is add an International Plan of which they have an option that costs $ 10 a day. With the plan I have I can receive and make calls from anywhere in Colombia as though as I was at home. As an example, if I want to call someone in the USA I just go to contacts and the number is dialed. As far as Whatsapp, Tinder, or anything else it works in Colombia just like at home with the Verizon service I have which is expensive, but very reliable. I have used my phone all over the world, IE; for UBER etc. And it's been like I never left the USA. So if you have Verizon service your best option might just be adding International service versus having to change SIM cards.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2358730]Hey guys,

I live in Jamaica & I have a Scotiabank bank (Canadian bank) a / see & visa debit card, my account is in Jamaican currency and not USA the. Would I have any issues withdrawing Colombian pesos from the ATM? I Plan on bringing a small amount of cash ($200 usd or so) to exchange at the airport and then withdraw the rest at ATM's, do you think I would have any issues?

Also, how's Colombia in October & November?[/QUOTE]There is a Scotiabank ATM in Poblado in the vicinity of opposite the Holiday Inn Express so you should have no problem with ATM. Call your local bank before leaving. Nevertheless I would advise on bringing requisite amount of cash depending on your length of stay. Colombia is great any time of year.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358688]I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm seeing Venezuelans and don't recognize them as such. However, I session the hottest ones I see and am yet to session a Venezuelan streetwalker.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2358716]................I wish there was a Latin version of Pattaya or AC with all Latina pussies as oppose to Asians.[/QUOTE]Its called Sosua.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2358810]I would not be surprised. I have not talked to her in a while, but she goes with volume. And she's gotten a little chubby since she got her fake boobs and ass. So 150 K is very believable.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. She's narcissistic like most of them so if you have a good situation to offer where she can take some photos and does not have a better opportunity she would probably do it. But be aware that between the time a date is made and she's supposed to be on her way a better offer could be made. I don't know if she would do that but I think it happens so that's the risk when you offer low. I've never been with her but since I follow her I see that every now and then some poor guy went all out with gifts, champagne, and hors the'oeuvres.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2358898]Isn't that more or less Rio? I know vets that were there when Help was open still talk about it being the #1 spot for mongering.[/QUOTE]Help was good but sometimes I would spend the days and evenings in Termas and skip Help. Undoubtedly there were good girls and great times to be had in Help. The Termas were often incredible so by the time I made it to Help at midnight it didn't matter to me if I hooked up. Some people would come to Rio only for Help but to me, on its own, it was not that great a draw. I mean, I would not fly to Rio and spend my days hanging around the beach only to go to Help at night. Termas were more productive to me though I would use Help, Termas, and sites like [URL]riosexsite.com[/URL] . Altogether it was a field day.

However, I don't believe the girls in Rio are that much better than Colombia. There were some stunners in Rio and I'm sure there are still. Some of the girls have the most incredible asses. But I have never been in Medellin wishing instead I were in Rio. I feel safer in Medellin and I have much better relationships with people in Colombia. Also of note is that you can fly to MDE in half the time and spend quite a lot less money. I can do two trips to Colombia for the price of a trip to Rio. However, the dollar is gaining strength on the Real so who knows.

Check out the Brazil photo gallery. If you ever have a couple of weeks in Medellin you could fly Copa or Avianca overnight and spend a few days in Rio. I've seen first-class tickets for something like $650 MDE GIG. Their Summer months are late November through April so that's when you want to be there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358739]4 little words: "Your Mileage May Vary. ".

Almost every Facebook girl I've been with has been fine with BBBJ. I never ask for CIM.

If you have a long list of requirements, you should clear everything up before. You should also expect the price to go up. If she's going to do more than usual, she will want to be paid more than usual.

[/QUOTE]Interesting. I am one who tries to get my requirements specified before time. However I get many chicas answering "no. " For example, in the last week I have had only one acceptance out of five on Facebook. Perhaps I put my list together wrong. However, I have thinking it is the BBBJ issue. From my experience, Colombian chicas in other countries such as Argentina and Panama almost always (80%) insist on a CBJ.

The other thing is I created a secondary Facebook profile. One chica that I friended posted a blurb saying that men with short-term Facebook histories are very dangerous. So this could be a reason that chicas are refusing citas. There was another post last week where a chica (an obvious prepago) was robbed of 3 m COP in Bello. I had one ISG friend write me privately saying he thinks the Medellin Facebook scene may be played out or at least nearing its end. I personally had better luck on Tinder but then again I got banned for being too explicit.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2358715]YFor those of you that think more $ gets you finer pussy or performance, I wish you well. My experience is that the correlation is not clear. [/QUOTE]Since I am one who seems to be offering 50 k more than the going rate, I agree with you that probably I am not getting a better performance paying extra. The only thing I am ensuring is that I am meeting my expectations for a cita. Since I am getting plenty of rejections, I don't think I am grossly overpaying.

The majority of my friends are "go with the flow" guys. Recently my friend was almost surprised that I was laying out what I wanted before I left the bar.

It is also a fact especially in Medellin that some guys provide aphrodisiacs such as 420 during a session. This is something I don't do. Although I do not do 420, I am a Deadhead so I have been there and know about the benefits. I suspect this might be helping the "go with the flow" guys.

One reason I grown to like the motels is the availablility of a variety of alcoholic drinks. I found last August many chicas like Smirnoff Ice which is something I would never buy for myself.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2358986]If you ever have a couple of weeks in Medellin you could fly Copa or Avianca overnight and spend a few days in Rio. I've seen first-class tickets for something like $650 MDE GIG. Their Summer months are late November through April so that's when you want to be there.[/QUOTE]I live in Medellin so I'm always thinking about heading to Rio for a change of scenery. I've seen tickets as low as $450 on Avianca to Rio from Medellin.

What if the girl doesn't mention any specific amount of money, even though you give her many hints. Is that a good sign or bad sign?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359005]I live in Medellin so I'm always thinking about heading to Rio for a change of scenery. I've seen tickets as low as $450 on Avianca to Rio from Medellin.[/QUOTE]"always thinking" and you still haven't done it? If the price is your excuse, try flying to Leticia, taxi over the border to Tabatinga airport and take a domestic flight to Rio.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358965]Perhaps I'm seeing Venezuelans and don't recognize them as such. However, I session the hottest ones I see and am yet to session a Venezuelan streetwalker.[/QUOTE]The Venezuelans are pretty easy to identify, they typically hang together in groups of two or more girls and unfortunately a lot of them are fat and ugly, the "fuglies" are what I call them. However, there are some nice ones in the mix. The Venezuelans have invaded the area, taken away a lot of clients for the Colombians, hence they hang separately as the Colombians do not want them there as I have mentioned in my previous posts. It's a goldmine right now for those into SW's, and there is more than enough of them to go around. I am sure you are aware that you can't just show up in El Centro and spend like five minutes like you would at a Casa and have a line-up of beauties presented to you ready to hit the room. Lots of patience, time in the area, and Spanish speaking skills are required to be successful with the SW's in El Centro. I think the issue your going to have if you decide to spend some time looking for a SW in El Centro is finding a "hottie" to go with. There are not a lot of them down there, so the Casa's will probably be much better for you. And as I said before, everybody rolls different and it's all good.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2358939](Your email) Control's your WhatsApp account, not the sim card. If you arrive in a new country and log in with your old email, all of your old contacts and everything will load to the new phone, it's not that complicated. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2358943]
The fact is that the Venezuelans are in every nook and cranny in Medellin, I mean everywhere and yes I have never seen so many chicas in Botero and the Vera as there are now. This last Sunday I sat in the museum cafe patio, which adjacent to the Botero plaza, and sipping my coffee for almost 2 hours and watched and observed the people and was in awe how many workers were out in the afternoon.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It's mind blowing how many Chicas are out there.

When I am down there and I see the English guided tour groups being escorted thru the area, I wonder if any of the people on the tour ever ask, why are there so many women standing around all over the place. Perhaps the tour guide tells them what's up?

Another thing I can't fathom is how many clients some of these Chicas actually get given that there are so many of them. I see some of the prettier Venezuelans going arriba. But some of them I bet are lucky to snag a customer at all.

I also notice a lot of guys similar in age (Venezuelans) sometimes talking with the girls. I have to assume these are their boyfriends or husbands who they are supporting.

El Centro by day is so different than a few years ago, and if the Venezuelan Chicas continue to invade the area, something is bound to change and not for the good. The City might step in and clean up the area if tourism is affected perhaps.

Regardless, it's a buyers market for pussy down there for sure, so might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2359033]Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.[/QUOTE]I currently have 2 phones, different numbers, same email, they both recieve the same messages if I whatsapp either number from a 3rd phone but I cannot whatsapp the same phones registered under the same email? And I do not have them registered as the same name under whatsapp. I wonder why? Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2359033]Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.[/QUOTE]As Fun Luvr has stated, make sure you register an email with your WhatsApp account as it provides you with the ability to back up your account? Who wouldn't want to back up their account to retrieve any missed messages? Which can only be done through a registered email address, as I was saying before, the answer was provided, even in denial. (your email) control's your WhatsApp account, otherwise every phone you buy or activate will cause you to create a brand new account, even if you are using the same old name with each account? Imagine how many "Juan Rodriguez's" it is in this world. Everyone would get the same message. Trust me, your email account controls your WhatsApp account. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358958]I have Verizon with International service and my phone works here just like in the USA. If your carrier is Verizon all you need to do is add an International Plan of which they have an option that costs $ 10 a day. With the plan I have I can receive and make calls from anywhere in Colombia as though as I was at home. As an example, if I want to call someone in the USA I just go to contacts and the number is dialed. As far as Whatsapp, Tinder, or anything else it works in Colombia just like at home with the Verizon service I have which is expensive, but very reliable. I have used my phone all over the world, IE; for UBER etc. And it's been like I never left the USA. So if you have Verizon service your best option might just be adding International service versus having to change SIM cards.[/QUOTE]Verizon must have added more bands to their phones since I looked into it. But it's still cheaper for me to go with Google Fi, It's cost is $20 a month unlimited texting, plus $10 GB data, on average I use 1 GB a week if I don't have consistent wifi, half that if I do. For 2 weeks that's $40 which would only be 4 days on Verizon international plan. I used it on a two week trip to Europe two years ago and only spent $30 because I had WiFi most of the time.

Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2359069]Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?[/QUOTE]Those are normal prices for flights within Colombia. One of my Venezuelan chicks moved from Bogota to Medellin a couple of weeks ago because of a job transfer. She took the bus for $30. I asked her why she didn't just take a flight for that price. She said because she had 3 big bags and she didn't want to pay extra to take them on the plane.

Also be careful of the low fares that are for Colobians or people with a Colombian Cedula. I found cheap flights but you had to have a Cedula or Colobian ID card to get the fare.

Also the cheapest fares do not allow much luggage so check that out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2359074]Those are normal prices for flights within Colombia. One of my Venezuelan chicks moved from Bogota to Medellin a couple of weeks ago because of a job transfer. She took the bus for $30. I asked her why she didn't just take a flight for that price. She said because she had 3 big bags and she didn't want to pay extra to take them on the plane.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2359081]...or people with a Colombian Cedula. I found cheap flights but you had to have a Cedula or Colobian ID card to get the fare...[/QUOTE]I so hate that bullshit.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358997]Since I am one who seems to be offering 50 k more than the going rate, I agree with you that probably I am not getting a better performance paying extra. The only thing I am ensuring is that I am meeting my expectations for a cita. Since I am getting plenty of rejections, I don't think I am grossly overpaying.

The majority of my friends are "go with the flow" guys. Recently my friend was almost surprised that I was laying out what I wanted before I left the bar.

It is also a fact especially in Medellin that some guys provide aphrodisiacs such as 420 during a session. This is something I don't do. Although I do not do 420, I am a Deadhead so I have been there and know about the benefits. I suspect this might be helping the "go with the flow" guys.

One reason I grown to like the motels is the availablility of a variety of alcoholic drinks. I found last August many chicas like Smirnoff Ice which is something I would never buy for myself.[/QUOTE]There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

That is why I say amount beyond a certain price is no guarantee of a good service. The price paid is a function of the circumstances at that moment.

Finally one last thing, regulars tend to settle on price. If she knows you are decent, fun and she has been with you a couple of times, it takes a few things off the plate for her. Risk is less, known entity, predictability of what to expect, and reliability of payment etc.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358893]You have the location correct, to better orientate yourself, go to the main entrance of the Museum, stand in front of the Museum and look towards the Metro line. There will be lots of statues there and a park. There are girls scattered around sitting in the park, on the benches, etc. The highest concentration of girls will be standing at the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52 to the north side of the Museum, also there are lots of girls hanging close by to the ice cream / yogurt stand on the corner at that intersection. There are girls out early in the morning in the park directly in front of the Museum but the best times are late afternoon. And besides this area, you can go down a block to Carrea 51 which has a string of bars with lots of girls hanging out in front. I don't usually pull girls from this area. There are Vennies there, however the greatest concentration is in the area I mentioned as a lot of the Vennies stay apart from the Colombians as they have invaded their turf. If your looking for beauty queens and / or have no Spanish speaking skills, I suggest you go to New Life, as that suits others better than the SW scene. There are lots of fuglies out there, but some gems can be found with patience. Please post your observations after trolling the area.[/QUOTE]Thank you and Jjbee62 for providing the detailed descriptions. Definitely not looking for stunner with these SWs. If I want hotties, I know I can find them at the casas. I'll be getting more than enough casa girls when I'm in Brasil. So these bargain venez / col SWs would be a refreshing break. Whats not to love about keeping a pussy all night for the price of an hour with a casa girl.

Do you know if these SWs are controlled by pimps?

[QUOTE=Jaytostore;2358826]From few weeks back. Sorry amount of Plastic girls in Colombia made my rating system go haywire LOL.[/QUOTE]Can you PM me her contact info? How much did she charge you?

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2359095]There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

That is why I say amount beyond a certain price is no guarantee of a good service. The price paid is a function of the circumstances at that moment.

Finally one last thing, regulars tend to settle on price. If she knows you are decent, fun and she has been with you a couple of times, it takes a few things off the plate for her. Risk is less, known entity, predictability of what to expect, and reliability of payment etc.[/QUOTE]There are an infinity of reasons why a chica might reject you. One is that she just might be tired and not feel like it. She might not even feel like reading a message or responding to another anonymous gringo.

I understand the convenience of Facebook and it should be in you tool set, but IMO it's always better to meet them face to face if you can.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2358989]Interesting. I am one who tries to get my requirements specified before time. However I get many chicas answering "no. " For example, in the last week I have had only one acceptance out of five on Facebook. Perhaps I put my list together wrong. However, I have thinking it is the BBBJ issue. From my experience, Colombian chicas in other countries such as Argentina and Panama almost always (80%) insist on a CBJ.

The other thing is I created a secondary Facebook profile. One chica that I friended posted a blurb saying that men with short-term Facebook histories are very dangerous. So this could be a reason that chicas are refusing citas. There was another post last week where a chica (an obvious prepago) was robbed of 3 m COP in Bello. I had one ISG friend write me privately saying he thinks the Medellin Facebook scene may be played out or at least nearing its end. I personally had better luck on Tinder but then again I got banned for being too explicit.[/QUOTE]Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.

Easy way to mitigate being robbed: limit the amount of cash you have on hand and make them come to you!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2358924]I am glad to know this, I use Verizon and they use CDMA technology which does not have carriers in every country. I used to use a "travel phone' that was a multiband and would work anywhere once a bought a SIM card in a given country. Now I have a Google Pixel phone and whenever I get ready to go out of the country I buy a SIM card from Google on their Google Fi program. Google Fi gets service in 200 hundred countries Texting is free anywhere in the world but they charge 20 cents a minute for calls (how many actual calls does anyone make) . Plus I have a phone in my hand as soon as I hit the ground. I have had banking problems and apartment problems in the past when I needed my phone as soon as I arrived. My phone can also use wifi for calls, as I think most later model phones can, and then its free. Last time I checked the Google fi SIM cards only work on Google phones though. Damn that sounded like I was schilling for google, I'm not, but it is a very handy thing when traveling) But I do have to change my phone number to a phone number I have registered with Google. But even though my number changes, everything else in my phone stays the same, I. E. My contacts will still be there, The only hassle is to let anyone that I will be contacting know what my travel number is before I leave so they know who is calling or texting. I was worried that I would have to reload all those contacts from Whatsapp, but from what you say I just have to let the people not in whatsapp no what my number will be when I am traveling.[/QUOTE]If you have one of the Verizon Unlimited plans, you get 5 days free of international data, talk and text. After that it's $10 per day. I had no issues with my Google Pixel 2 XL and Verizon while I was there last month.

You also don't have to change your WhatsApp number when you change your SIM. I've kept the same WhatsApp across 3 different phones, 3 different SIMs and 3 different carriers.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2359033]Wow, not even close to correct. Your email is only used for backup. That is the reason your contacts and other information will be restored, but only if they were previously backed up. A new phone must be registered with Whatsapp before Whatsapp will work. Whatsapp identifies a user by a username created from a phone number and stored in the Whatsapp application. That is the reason you do not need a sim card after the app is registered. Even if you change your sim card, it will not affect your Whatsapp account until you reload Whatsapp.[/QUOTE]When I switched phones and carriers I installed WhatsApp on my new phone. Thanks to my old carrier failing to release my phone number, I ended up with a new number.

When I signed in to WhatsApp the first time I selected that I already had an account. After verifying I ended up with my old WhatsApp number on my new phone with a new number. Any time I turned on my old phone it would ask if I wanted to switch my WhatsApp back.

Now, for 14 months I've got my original WhatsApp number on a phone with a different number.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2358944]Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi because they use CDMA, those particular bands are not available in Colombia, unless you're using Google-Fi. AT&T, T-Mobile, and Metro PCS phones work in Colombia with simply changing the SIM Card. If the phone is unlocked, but it is a Verizon, Boost, or Sprint phones, they will not work, I have tried, trust me on this. The easiest way is to have a travel phone, but to each his own. Right now I own a Samsung A50 with a dual SIM card, I use it in the US under metro PCS and in Colombia under Claro. I have a friend who buys my a monthly plan for 40,000 cop the day before I arrive and as soon as I land, I turn on the claro sim card and boom, I'm up and running. The funny thing is this, I paid about $225 usd for this Samsung A50 and it has a really good camera on the phone while in Colombia earlier this year. The same phone is nearly $425 usd in the united states. If you want to minimize the amount of a travel phone, go into any pawn shop and look for a metro or unlocked Samsung J3 prime phone, they are going for about $50-$75 usd and they will do everything you need while in Medellin, a SIM card is $5,000 cop, and a monthly plan is $40,000 cop for a total of about $17 usd. So once again, the easiest way to handle the phone situation in Colombia, come to Colombia with Google Fi or have a cheap unlocked phone to insert a Colombian sim and then by a cheap monthly plan. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Hmmm, I use my Sprint cell in Colombia and Brazil no problem.

When I arrive, I simply turn it on, it automatically connects to a local carrier I imagine in contract with Sorint and it works like a champ.

Balboa out.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2359095]There are many reasons a chica may reject you besides price. Maybe your looks, maybe she has other priorities that night, maybe her bank balance is decent for now, maybe there are no immediate needs etc. Now of course she is a working girl and has a price even under those circumstances at which she will go along, but My Q to you is what sort of mood will that mean she is in at tha time?

[/QUOTE]All I can say is based on last year in August in Medellin all but one of the Facebook and Tinder chicas provided extras beyond my script. I ended up having three citas with the most liberal of the chicas.

The apartments and the massage rooms tended to be more restrictive on services. I think in Energy I have always had to tip for BBBJ so figure 180 k to 200 k per hour. For one hour outcall from Energy they charge 180 k plus taxi. If you read back through the forum in 2011 Energy was the recommended spot by one of the most influential Medeliin guys on ISG. In his view, Energy had good-looking chicas who for the most part were childless. So things change over time.

Another massage room told me 250 k for outcall last August but they only have 5 chicas working there.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2359132]
When I arrive, I simply turn it on, it automatically connects to a local carrier I imagine in contract with Sorint and it works like a champ.[/QUOTE]Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2358944]Verizon and Sprint phones will only work in Colombia with google-Fi. [/QUOTE]He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.

[QUOTE=Talon;2359109]Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.
[/QUOTE]Man you are good. Is it easy for you to communicate in Spanish? I have to use a translator.

I have more than enough right now to keep me occupied for 2 weeks. Hopefully one or two will be a keeper. Plus I have massage rooms within 5 minutes walk of my 2 different BnBs. Add in Energy, Tantra and another unreviewed one I want to try, I will be plenty busy. I will do no harm to the Facebook, streetwalker or Downtown casa scenes.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2359069]Anyone fly back and forth between Medellin and Cartagena much? I see flights in a basic Google search round trips nonstops ranging from $60 on Viva Air to $100 Avianca. I'm wondering if these are prices only gotten when you book in advance or do the budget airlines like Viva Air run these all the time?[/QUOTE]The prices are almost always that cheap. It's like an hour flight at most. I like to book in advance with avianca. Always smooth flying and luggage is included. Keep In mind the fares google flights is pulling are most likely from the Spanish website, so it can be a a little confusing if you don't understand Spanish but you should be able to figure it out.

If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358962]There is a Scotiabank ATM in Poblado in the vicinity of opposite the Holiday Inn Express so you should have no problem with ATM. Call your local bank before leaving. Nevertheless I would advise on bringing requisite amount of cash depending on your length of stay. Colombia is great any time of year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2359135]All I can say is based on last year in August in Medellin all but one of the Facebook and Tinder chicas provided extras beyond my script. I ended up having three citas with the most liberal of the chicas.

The apartments and the massage rooms tended to be more restrictive on services. I think in Energy I have always had to tip for BBBJ so figure 180 k to 200 k per hour. For one hour outcall from Energy they charge 180 k plus taxi. If you read back through the forum in 2011 Energy was the recommended spot by one of the most influential Medeliin guys on ISG. In his view, Energy had good-looking chicas who for the most part were childless. So things change over time.

Another massage room told me 250 k for outcall last August but they only have 5 chicas working there.[/QUOTE]Massage rooms always take their cut, remember that. FB is a direct arrangement with the Chica. There is a difference.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2359099]Thank you and Jjbee62 for providing the detailed descriptions. Definitely not looking for stunner with these SWs. If I want hotties, I know I can find them at the casas. I'll be getting more than enough casa girls when I'm in Brasil. So these bargain venez / col SWs would be a refreshing break. Whats not to love about keeping a pussy all night for the price of an hour with a casa girl.

Do you know if these SWs are controlled by pimps?[/QUOTE]That's an interesting question and I believe the answer to your question is no, however with the Vennies, I see lots of guys the same ages of them hanging around. So the boyfriends and / or husbands are being supported by them, and they are working to survive I guess. But who knows, maybe some of them have been forced to work against their will. But I doubt this is the case. I think it's just to survive and support their families.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2359119]If you have one of the Verizon Unlimited plans, you get 5 days free of international data, talk and text. After that it's $10 per day. I had no issues with my Google Pixel 2 XL and Verizon while I was there last month.

You also don't have to change your WhatsApp number when you change your SIM. I've kept the same WhatsApp across 3 different phones, 3 different SIMs and 3 different carriers.[/QUOTE]With the Verizon International Plan I have, it's though I have never left the USA, the phone works just like at home and in the last three months I have used it in Turkey, Iceland, Germany, and in Colombia. May cost more than multiple phones and SIM cards, but no hassle whatsoever.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2359161]If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.[/QUOTE]Scotiabank ATM upstairs inside the EXITO on Calle 10 in Poblado about five minutes from the Metro station.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2359164]Massage rooms always take their cut, remember that. FB is a direct arrangement with the Chica. There is a difference.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.

Most guys on ISG do not use agencies in Colombia. In fact, when you read Agency websites it seems as if they have a real problem with the guys and chicas cutting their own deals after the first meeting. I guess in that respect it is similar to Fase Dos and La Isla. But agencies do serve a useful purpose by saving time. It takes time to build a quality Facebook list. One guy reports that it takes time to find quality among the Centro streetwalkers. Some guys report that they visit several casas to find a chica. I called an agency once on a rainy afternoon in Medellin when I did not want to go out. Here is a list that I gathered of agencies.

[URL]https://scort-masajes-y-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas.negocio.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.elbookrosa.com/medellin[/URL]

[URL]http://www.escortsfantasia.com/escorts/categoria/medellin/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-medellin-jovenes[/URL]

[URL]https://www.erospremium.co/[/URL]

[URL]https://geisha.academy /en/[/URL]

Vany's Chicas.

Geisha is the only one I recall that has been reported on recently.

I like leggier women so this agency might be good for me as they require their chicas to be 165 cm tall. The bad is they have probably the highest prices.

[URL]https://www.prepagos1000.co/requisitos-para-trabajar-con-nosotros[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2359137]Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.[/QUOTE]Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2359161]If you are staying in or near Laureles, there is a Scotiabank ATM outside of Jumbo 65.[/QUOTE]Awesome, it seems that there are a few of them in Laureles and Poblado. Does it matter if my bank currency is in Jamaican instead of Canadian or USA the when trying to use the ATM to get Colombian pesos?

That would be up to your bank. The same is true of the transaction fees. Ask about it at your bank. Unlike us, they actually have to respond to you with verifiable facts.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2359389]Awesome, it seems that there are a few of them in Laureles and Poblado. Does it matter if my bank currency is in Jamaican instead of Canadian or USA the when trying to use the ATM to get Colombian pesos?[/QUOTE]

I go with a dual SIM phone for the past 10 years or so. I find it the most convenient for travel and home use. I keep a spare phone with as a backup only. I use a local SIM for data service when I'm out of my home coverage area. Every so often a local phone number comes in handy but it's less and less often.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2359279]With the Verizon International Plan I have, it's though I have never left the USA, the phone works just like at home and in the last three months I have used it in Turkey, Iceland, Germany, and in Colombia. May cost more than multiple phones and SIM cards, but no hassle whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2359360]Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]My post is in agreement with you, that is why I try to explain to him.

Multi-band is not multi-sim. There are a few phones that work on both AT&T and Sprint. These are multi-band phones.

Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2359360]Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Okay. Letting you know. This is easier, but not much.

As soon as I land, I turn on my Google Pixel 2 XL with my Verizon Unlimited plan. My phone works immediately. I get 0.5 GB daily of high speed data. Drops to 2 G speed after that. Once per day Verizon texts me to let me know how many free days I have left, or to tell me I'm being charged $10 for the day. No need to switch SIMs, no need to activate a SIM, no need to pay 2 different companies.

It's not cheaper. My Verizon plan is $55/ month. I have an $850 phone and after 5 days in Colombia my International plan costs $10/ day.

However, I get unlimited 4 G data, 75 GB per month of 5 G data and 30 GB of mobile hotspot data in the US. Most importantly I get the Verizon network. The T-Mobile / Metro PCS network is fine, as long as you never leave the city. There are too many gaping holes in the network for me.

Your way is a better way, for someone who frequently travels to only 1 country. If your phone gets broken or stolen, you're only out a cheap phone. You have a local number for use in Colombia, while still having your US number available.

For someone who travels often to several countries, especially if they are spending 5 days or less per month outside the US, Verizon Unlimited plans (or Google FI) are the way to go. It's also easier for someone who rarely travels. Sucks to spend $200-$300 on a cheap phone, go to the trouble of buying a local SIM, paying to load some data and then only use it once, because you decide to go somewhere else the next year.

For the record, I also have a dual SIM Huawei Mate 9. Paid about $300 for it in Medellin after my Samsung S7 Edge got broken. It has my old T-Mobile SIM and a Claro SIM. I keep it as an emergency backup phone. If I was spending 30-180 days a year in Colombia, I'd be using the Claro SIM.

There are lots of options. Pick the one that best fits your travel style.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2359424]I go with a dual SIM phone for the past 10 years or so. I find it the most convenient for travel and home use. I keep a spare phone with as a backup only. I use a local SIM for data service when I'm out of my home coverage area. Every so often a local phone number comes in handy but it's less and less often.[/QUOTE]It's interesting how everybody has a different way they handle their cell phone communication overseas.

In Colombia I rarely take my " I " phone out of my apartment out of fear of it being stolen. Because if it is, there is no way to get my Verizion telephone number back and working until I get back to the USA. At least that is what Verizion has told me, maybe that has changed recently. I handle all of my business dealings, Whatsapp messaging etc. While in my apartment. But also have a local Colombian cell ($30 USD Nokia) I use in Colombia. As I am on the METRO daily and walking all over El Centro most days I cannot afford to lose my I phone. I basically treat it security wise like my Passport. I also think everyone has become to dependent on smart phones, with boarding passes, etc. And almost everything else on them, what a nightmare if you lose one.

If you decide to buy a "burner phone"' or inexpensive smart phone with a Colombian SIM card for use in Colombia, it will only be valid for I believe thirty days unless registered with a carrier like CLARO. I recommend CLARO as a carrier here only because they have so many offices everywhere versus TIGO or others.

A few months ago on a flight from Medellin to Santa Marta, my local Colombian cell phone fell out of my pocket on the flight and I lost it. Not a problem, when I landed in Santa Marta I went to the Claro office and paid like $ 2 USD and was issued a new SIM card with the same number. If I had lost my USA cell I would of been hosed.

Everybody's situation is different, so there's no right way or wrong way to handle communication Overseas. I employ the same above-mentioned strategy when I go to the Dominican Republic, the Philippines, and Thailand because I am out on the streets walking around a lot. When I land at the airport, I purchase a SIM card and put in my burner phone and am ready to go!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2359137]Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.[/QUOTE]No, I just use the Sprint international service.

No SIM card needed.

Balboa is out!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2359664]No, I just use the Sprint international service.

No SIM card needed.

Balboa is out![/QUOTE]Here in the US Sprint's network might not be as ubiquitous as Verizon and AT&T but their international roaming is excellent. Two years ago Verizon's international plan was so expensive that I had to get a SIM card every time I traveled and it was not transparent- people could tell I was traveling if I called back to US. It was basically $40 for 100 mb data (which is nothing) and perhaps 100 minute talk time and the price of exceeding that was punitive. Sprint's international data roaming is free, although slower than 3G, but the option of buying some megabytes of 4G are available and a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon's $40 for 100 mb. I just don't need it for wpp and FB in the streets of MDE or where wifi is available. Calls within Colombia or to US are 20 cents a minute.

CF is out!

I first stayed in Hotels, Suite comfort and TRYP both in Laurles near the stadium, I booked for 2 people and the girl had to show her ID at the desk then she came on up or I went down and got her. Now I stay at Airbnb much cheaper ($25-65 nt) and more privacy (sometimes). I am trying a new Airbnb this trip so we will see.

Motels are different in Colombia, they are short time places used for sex.

[QUOTE=Franko11;2359569]Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Franko11;2359569]Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]As a rule, chicas are not banned from hotels. Some hotels will not allow local females to enter the rooms unless they are registered. Some will charge a fee for them to enter. Some will allow them to enter if they have an ID showing that they are 18 or older. You need to ask the hotel if they allow local guests to visit you in your room. The hotels that don't allow local visitors will not allow them in, whether they arrive alone or with a hundred people.

Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe!

Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning. I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now. I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?

If anybody is going to be in Medellin Sep 4 - Sep 8 - will gladly meet and share beer and stories.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359817]Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe![/QUOTE]Can you share the FB link. I think I saw them both during my visit.

[QUOTE=Franko11;2359569]Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The best thing to do is contact the hotel that you're staying in and they will let you know what the policy is. Most of the hotels I looked at charge extra for you to bring the girls up as long as they have proper ID. But quite honestly I'd rather just hit them at the houses or strip clubs and go back to my room. If you're not on a budget and insist on a hotel then treat yourself and pay the extra cash to bring them up. I know I would.

This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359817]Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe![/QUOTE]I can't click on the two pictures you just posted. What is the context?

Searching for an A50 now. Great info. This is VERY IMPORTANT.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2359360]Than this please let me know. Simple $225 phone, Samsung A50 with dual sim cards, once I land in Colombia I activate my claro sim card & my phone works immediately, for $13/ month with 2 g of data. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]

Any board members who are in town next week and want to link up for a beer hmu (Pollo Negro you already know Drinks on me, dam those vids! I want to do the touristy stuff during some of the days, can anyone recommend a tour guide preferably company that's not gringo pricing?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]"Restaurants where the girls are almost naked"? They could have at least had the consideration to give the names and addresses of these establishments.

Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now -I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?

If anybody is going to be in Medellin Sep 4 - Sep 8 - will gladly meet and share beer and stories.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]Funny that the writer is railing against sex tourists, who at least spend money and boost the local economy, when his country is currently flooded with impoverished Venezuelans who depress local wages, take jobs, and strain health and human services.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359817]Just sharing this very recent information because some of you guys say that you use this app. Stay safe![/QUOTE]Can you share the FB link. I think I saw them both during my visit.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2359137]Do you put in a new SIM card? That is what he is talking about.

He also mentioned roaming worked. There are very few phones support multi-band will work but these phones probably are not common.[/QUOTE]My experience with Sprint has been no issue. As soon as I land (without buying a sim) I restart my phone. While I e I'm in Customs line I usually get a text message from Sprint saying "Welcome To Sprint, you are in Colombia" then it tells me my rates. Free text 25 cent per min calls. Now here's the catch. The service sucks when using GPS oriented apps. Google Maps, Uber, etc. Sprint sends a message right after the welcome text saying for $10 they can upgrade you to the "high speed" roaming capabilities. It's worth every penny. But sprint works there. Maybe it's a phone issue for some.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]This type of reaction is inevitable. It's not the guys who overpay the girls who are the biggest threat to a mongering destination. It's the guys who binge on Narcos, thinking it's a realistic representation of Medellin.

There's a regular stream of posts from them, and who knows how many get blocked by the admins, displaying the wrong attitude. They all plan on partying like rock stars, with no regard for the people who live there.

Add in the recent fool on YouTube who was teaching guys to harass and intimidate Colombian women. It's bound to create some anger towards the US tourists. There's other factors, but I don't want to get a political argument started.

Will it affect the typical visitor? Probably not. If you're using discretion, keeping a low profile and showing some respect most people will remain friendly. You might get a few more nasty looks than before, but no real issues.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2359821]Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin![/QUOTE]Locker as usual. Don't believe in free cancellation from Expedia even with insurance after 24 HR booking, its only for emergency purpose. Not a 1 click cancel.

Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.

[QUOTE=Talon;2360080]Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.[/QUOTE]Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.

EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.

I used to juggle sim cards when I traveled. I tried T-Mobile and Sprint internationally and hated the slow speeds and awful customer service.

If you spend any significant amount of time outside the US, and are from the US, I think Google Fi is a no-brainer for mobile phone service. It's cheap, reliable and has excellent customer service. It leverages both the Sprint and T-Mobile international networks seamlessly connecting to the strongest. When I was in Peru and T-Mobile's network was down it auto-connected to Sprint. When I was in New Zealand which had no Sprint partner it worked great with T-Mobile. I get LTE speed over 95% of the time. When connected to Wifi calls home are free. Otherwise 20 cents a minute. Free SMS worldwide. Pay for the mobile data you use. My monthly bills average less than $30 a month. Only downside is that it works best with the phones they sell, though it is now compatible with other phones (see their site). I'm a Pixel fan boy, think they are better than iPhones and now they have the mid-range priced 3 a series. I have used it in 14 countries (including Colombia).

If you are interested in learning more here is a like to the Google Fi site which has all the info. You also get $20 off if you sign up through this site.

[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2359674]Here in the US Sprint's network might not be as ubiquitous as Verizon and AT&T but their international roaming is excellent. Two years ago Verizon's international plan was so expensive that I had to get a SIM card every time I traveled and it was not transparent- people could tell I was traveling if I called back to US. It was basically $40 for 100 mb data (which is nothing) and perhaps 100 minute talk time and the price of exceeding that was punitive. Sprint's international data roaming is free, although slower than 3G, but the option of buying some megabytes of 4G are available and a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon's $40 for 100 mb. I just don't need it for wpp and FB in the streets of MDE or where wifi is available. Calls within Colombia or to US are 20 cents a minute.

CF is out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayToStore;2360041]Locker as usual. Don't believe in free cancellation from Expedia even with insurance after 24 HR booking, its only for emergency purpose. Not a 1 click cancel.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Can you please provide more details about the lockers. Never used them in hotels.

Free cancellation for hotel reservations with Expedia works perfect. Did it many times. For flights yes -24 hours.

For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.

Pro tip: on the way to the air port stop at Walmart and get your own condoms that you are comfortable and used too. Don't "wing" this one IMO. Also a small speaker for music and fuenshi LOL.

Usually I fly from Cartagena on Friday or Saturday into Medellin. $60 flight. Flight gets me in around 1 pm. Perfect timing. If possible. Buy your bottles at the duty free. Don't bring them from home unless you don't mind weighing down your luggage LOL. As soon as I get my bags I walk right past the money exchange. All my money is on a debit card except a stashed emergency $300. This makes for easy withdrawals of Colombian Pesos at great rates from ATMs. I walk all the way to the back of the airport past the restrooms and next to the elevators (not the escalators) and withdraw about 600 to 1200 k pesos ($200 -$400). And the party begins. I'm a 36 year old, in shape, black guy that speaks English with minimal slang but know maybe 5 sentences in Spanish haha. I'm a laugh and party guy so I cater to that vibe of fun in Medellin. And I only travel alone. My rules my way.

Stay: I always book an Air BNB. Always. I don't deal with hotels or security guards if at all possible. Some see the huge security benefit in it. I personally like the privacy of the Air BNBs and prefer to have my own security measures and screenings. Again to each their own. I only book my Airbnb in Poblado within 10 streets of LLares. On the Air BNB App I type in Parque Llares. Then click the map and recenter my search right around llares. The lowest I go is Poblado Park up to up to Carrera 34. Maximum. The goal in this is so that I don't need taxis and Ubers much if at all save a few bucks and get the on ground experience. There are so many regular people walking this area, I feel safer on foot with all the street vendors and foreigners than in some random persons car. But to each their own. There is a group called Life Afar and they are luxury for cheap rentals. I only book through them recently. It seems they never have guest fees, always have your own key to your apartment and entrance, and best noone to judge you at the front door as you fulfill your crazy desires hahaha. I'm trying a big girl for once this trip! Never had it haha and running out of fetishes LOL.

Once there: the drive from the airport is about an hour. So if you can book an early flight, shoot for the noon or 1 pm arrival. Most check ins are at 3 or 4 pm any way so getting there around 2 with hour drive should get you there at a reasonable time. I like air BNB because you can usually get an early check in if you give them a heads up. Worst case get dropped off at your place then walk to one of the million surrounding restaurants to burn time or start messaging those chicas.

Once I get into my apartment I usually unpack everything then start hiding valuables. Don't put all your important stuff in one place. I put cash in books, under plants, in shoes hahaha. Just take a picture of each hiding spot or you'll forget. Next I immediately log into facebook (my Medellin account) and tinder and make it clear I'm in town. Usually within an hour my inbox starts dinging new messages and hearts on the status. All the girls that ignored me seem to become interested when they know I'm here and within range. Hahaha.

Setup: I usually walk to the grocery store on CL. 10. There I buy my Aguardiente, Titos, some flavored vodka, Ron Medellin and some sort of tequila. This is for my home bar and entertainment needs at home. Nothing worse than having a girl over and no alcohol to break the ice. Also good pregame sessions before partying at night. Lower tab too. I then walk back to the store and buy mixers and snacks to lay out on the table. Like the individual multipacks of chips and a large bottle water and ice. I usually by large a bucket of KFC for a few bucks. The chicas come over after the bars and melt over seeing fried chicken at 3 am. All together $35 in on food and drinks + alcohol. This is. My standard apartment set up.

Day time:

I don't normally see a ton of available chicas walking around LLares during the day. Mainly a bunch of locals and foreigners shopping and hanging out. So this is when I go site seeing and restaurants hopping. I'm a big foodie. Day time is Getting instagram pictures and crap to cover up to my friends back home why I am here hahahah. Normally if I develop an urge during the day I usually 100% hit up Photoprepagos website or Milleroticos which has been flawless for me so far. Only one bait and switch experience. Hahhah but it was fun and I still did it hahaha it was a good laugh moment for me to remember. I also have about 1000 chicas on my Medellin facebook account. Only one male friend hahahhaah. Read my other post on how I did that. Facebook is a expensive brothel to me at this point with quotes from 175 k up to 600 k depending on how into you she is.

CENTRO: HATE IT. Worst experience ever. Even worse in Bogota but Medellin hasn't given me anything either. I just can't find the places that everyone working girl shops peacefully hahah. Maybe it's me or my personality and comfort. Or just sick of the ghetto mindset.

Again I'm going to pissoff a few specific seasone people but it is what it is. I don't like digging through the weeds! Maybe I was on the wrong streets at the wrong time all 4 times that I tried. But it sucked! It was way too disgusting for me. It was like looking for a Dime in a crack house. Everyone around seemed sketchy, drugged out, transvestite, or just plain out unsafe. Never felt comfortable. Constantly watching for pick pockets or stick up kids, stepping over drugged out homeless people, everyone looking at me like who is this guy, (got called lebron James or mike Tyson easily 30 times.) A few normal people but I'm just too much of a sore thumb. Being a solo traveler with a sense of fashion and also standing at 6'4 250 lbs it's best for me to stay on the beaten path. I don't like having to dress like I'm homeless to blend in. That's just not fun to me. I don't like having to give the don't mess with me look to everyone that I pass and sees a gringo opportunity. I grew up in a similar environment just with northern americans. I just don't feel like I enjoy that kind of hunt anymore. Thats a last case environment for me personally. I reached my version of success in life. I have nooooo desire to fish in those lakes anymore even for a $40 discount. I'd perfer the environment where I can "safely" kick back more than being in alert mode while looking for chicas. Hope that makes sense. My face says I'm relaxed but my brain is in protection mode constantly. The whole street Walker scene is deep for me and I have to learn it at some point. But if you arent seasoned. Fine a buddy first or have dress homeless, put black stickers on your teeth so they appear missing, wear an eye patch, and drag one leg as if its limp until you see your diamond in the ruff. Maybe you'll feel blended in. Hahah.

At night around 10 pm I walk to Llares and go to Gustos for a few drinks to check the early talent. Usually on a Saturday there are about 20 girls and 20 to 30 guys walking around scoping each other out. I've got about 5 regulars in there and one bar tender so it's always like a reunion when I walk in. I normally order a few drinks and sit in the walking path tables. If nothing stunning crosses I go back down the elevator and walk to La Hacienda. THAT PLACE USED TO BE AMAZING WITH TALENT BUT THE PRICE WENT UP. One chica told me the whole scheme. Long story short, they are paid to be there. And must charge 600 k! She said they have to pay an exit fee themselves so they must stay until close hoping a guy willing to pay that price chooses them. The selection was impeccable and more girls than guys. But at 600 k I just flirt have a drink then sneak out after a few empty promises and phone numbers. Hahaha. Save this thought. After I sneak out I then bounce to all the little bars in the park. I normally find them too Colombian and find myself a bit too gringo. But I still force myself to go just for the experience. I then eventually find myself back to Gustos. I flirt with a few chicas while walking back but be careful. A few of the hid transvestite work the concrete stairs of the park getting guys going back and fourth through the bars. As it gets later I gain a bit more thirst to pick my night cap. By now the best one that I saw earlier is gone. And the 2nd best has a guy all over her. I'm normally kicking myself for passing on them at about 1 am. The alcohol is kicked in and my standards have lowere back into Gustos to see the new wave of partiers that have arrived since I left. I usually pick one one new one or a past. I get alot of higher quotes in gustos. Never lower than 250 k but max so far has been 350 k. RUMOR: So La Hacienda has been shut down by the city for whatever reason. My chica from there told me that all the girls now moved to the club down the street from Gustos by that weird little food window. It's like a expensive liquor storee and an open walled club above it that you can see from the street. I can't remember the name of it but theres always promoters trying to wave passer bye in. I never bit but this time I will try when I get there this Weekend. Worth a look. But. I hope they don't take that 600 k price with them and especially up to Gustos. If you guys are getting higher quotes there now, that would explain it. All it takes is for one girl to demand 600 k and then share with the other chicas and boom. Immediate inflation. (as if 300 k isn't already.) I perfer Gustos on a Sunday night. Seems like less guy competition as most are leaving early in the am and it appears the selection is alot more "available " and negotiations easier. On a Sunday I walk around like a God in there hahahah rejecting girls left and right hahahah. Saturday nights I have to do most of the ice breaking. I always use Photoprepagos and milleroticos to suppliment the days and evening sessions. I still find myself paying 200 k ish. Ove gone to the massage parlors during the day and was blown away by the 20 girl line up in Energy. But I kind of like entertaining in the privacy of my own home. It feels less mechanical when they are on my turf. By Monday morning all my snacks are gone, chicken buckets digested, alcohol down to the minimums. I normally book as late of a flight as possible for Monday. This way I have time to wake up hungover and maybe call in a chick from the sites for a farewell gift to myself.

This program works flawlessly for me and not for others.

Expenses: remember I plan for worst case so these numbers are the most I plan to spend. I always have carry over I budget Air BNb to cost me $70 to $90 per night paid before I arrive. Once on ground I budget 3 meals at $20 (usually cost less but this is how I plan it) so $60 per day for fine dining at great restaurants. I expect to buy $100 worth of alcohol for my home bar. I put 250 dollars per day for chicas (don't skimp here. This is the whole goal! That's a guaranteed 2 or 3 sessions (which is all I need). If using casa or sites it will cost less but just for budgeting purposes. I give myself an $80 bar tab limit which I never hit and usually have carry over. I plan $15 for ubers and taxi. That is a good base for me. Again corners and prices can be cut or surpassed!! That's just my expectations.

Final thought: buy condoms before arrival, buy alcohol in The air port or at a grocery store and not the liquor stores, use your debit card to get money in COP rather than bring dollars to exchange and ensure you notify your bank before. Stash emergency money and valuables in places besides the provided safe AND TAKE PICS OF WHERE. Don't aimlessly venture into Centro unless you're ready for that life. Get in convo with Tallman or Pollo Loco or whoever you feel knows how to handle that environment. I want you to be "safer" and "minimize" risk. Have snacks and drinks and mixers in your apartment to keep the chicas relaxed. I had a threesome that last 6 hours once because they were have so much fun. We banged and walked around naked and drinking and more sex over and over until they finally left. They begged to come back the next night but the train had left hahaha and a new chica was on board. Lastly set your own budget before coming. Think of everything you would want to do there in one day and put a escalated at max price next to it. Build a smart but flexible budget that is obtainable. Don't let anyone tell you you are spending too much or that the Centro girls are disgusting as I think they are. Figure out your program and perfect it.

My next goal is to figure out how to safely, privately, and low stressfully navigate Centro in a way I'm not always looking over my shoulder. In poblado it's the same as if I am at home, just with better women. And most of all, this program works for me!! It won't work for everyone unless you are as handsome as I am hahahha I'll be in Cartagena Tuesday through Friday then Medellin Saturday through Tuesday morning. Hit me up!

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360016]Hi,

I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.

New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.

Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!

Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.[/QUOTE]I will be in the area all month long. Exercising and studying, you need any help, PM me and I'll assist you in any issue that I can! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]I would have to wonder what percentage of the population actually feels this way. There is always an Element in every society that pushed back against change. I don't understand why "gentrification" is a bad thing in some places. When it crowds or people to where they can't afford the sky high rent I understand, but tourist are not moving to Medellin in drives, so I have to wonder if this isn't some people who just like to be against something.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2355369]All of your logic and points are right on the money as far as I am concerned. However everybody rolls different, and some guys are into Facebook and may be because they have never done the SW scene, visited a Casa, or hit up a Strip Club. Or it's just their personal preference as to how they want to roll.[/QUOTE]Lots of guys in this hobby prefer to order in because they have zero ability to communicate in Spanish, no social skills, scared of their own shadow, or all of the above.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360016]Hi,


Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).

I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.

The only question that bothers me for now -I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?.[/QUOTE]I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, I just hide my passport in the room but you can have the front desk put it in their safe but get it back on a week day a day or 2 early before you leave in case the office is closed when you leave. Money I just get what I need from the ATM every day, keep some in my pocket and most plus credit card and copy of passport in money belt under my clothes.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018RGQBZ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL]

Also read my lengthy review on the Hotel Botero (as it was called last year) in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925 lots of tips on the surrounding area.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page10[/URL]

Make sure you check out the rooftop bar, nice views of the city. Here's a video I took from up there:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48fn1Nlw_is[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2360086]Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.

EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.[/QUOTE]I do actually banter with them first. You can only fit so much conversation on a mobile screen so I just jumped to the relevant part.

[QUOTE=Talon;2360021]Funny that the writer is railing against sex tourists, who at least spend money and boost the local economy, when his country is currently flooded with impoverished Venezuelans who depress local wages, take jobs, and strain health and human services.[/QUOTE] Read the local newspapers. There's plenty of Colombians railing against the wave of Venezuelans entering the country.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]I haven't read the attachment but my take as a frequent visitor to Medellin is that gringos have nothing to worry about. Colombians love Americans and things American. IMO if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2360034]My experience with Sprint has been no issue. As soon as I land (without buying a sim) I restart my phone. While I e I'm in Customs line I usually get a text message from Sprint saying "Welcome To Sprint, you are in Colombia" then it tells me my rates. Free text 25 cent per min calls. Now here's the catch. The service sucks when using GPS oriented apps. Google Maps, Uber, etc. Sprint sends a message right after the welcome text saying for $10 they can upgrade you to the "high speed" roaming capabilities. It's worth every penny. But sprint works there. Maybe it's a phone issue for some.[/QUOTE]One of us misunderstand what PN is saying. You are roaming so you don't have a problem. Try to put a Colombia SIM in your sprint phone to see if it works.

Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2360104]For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.[/QUOTE]First post for me here. I was just going to say thanks for the info mate. I am currently living in Udon Thani Thailand but going to visiting Colombia to see if I might move there (been in Thailand for 10 years now sort of looking for something new).

Anyway, what you wrote is pretty much exactly the same I do when I fly down to Pattaya for a few days. The only difference is I am a 36 year old 6'4 German LOL.

But I like to do the disco tours and a bit of partying as well with maybe some facebook action during the day as well. I can relate to kicking yourself for passing on a hotty just to come back later and she is gone or has a guy already.

That seems to happen regularly but I never learn hahaha.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2360173]if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.[/QUOTE]Young guys will more naturally blend into social scenes, clubs, etc. with young regular chics. If your Spanish is on point, you can skip mongering even if you are older and pick up regular Colombian chics as well.

Hi everyone,

Been reading on the forums for a while but just made an account recently because I'm visiting Medellin over Labor Day for about a week. I've read all the tips and advice on here but it's still a pretty intimidating new world to dive into alone. But for my first attempt, it sounds like I'm better off trying the clubs or Facebook. Can someone explain how it works on Facebook? How do I even start a search for girls in Medellin on Facebook?

Or better yet, if anyone else is also going to be in the area. I'the love to meet up and learn from a more experienced member in person. Drinks on me.

Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

NormalAsianKid.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2360135]I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, [/QUOTE]Wolf, Have you stayed there since the name / mgmy change? Is it still as chica friendly as the HBP was?

TIA,

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2360128]Lots of guys in this hobby prefer to order in because they have zero ability to communicate in Spanish, no social skills, scared of their own shadow, or all of the above.[/QUOTE]Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2360376]Hi everyone,

Been reading on the forums for a while but just made an account recently because I'm visiting Medellin over Labor Day for about a week. I've read all the tips and advice on here but it's still a pretty intimidating new world to dive into alone. But for my first attempt, it sounds like I'm better off trying the clubs or Facebook. Can someone explain how it works on Facebook? How do I even start a search for girls in Medellin on Facebook?

Or better yet, if anyone else is also going to be in the area. I'the love to meet up and learn from a more experienced member in person. Drinks on me.

Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

NormalAsianKid.[/QUOTE]Here's the easy way:

Go to Facebook. Search for "happy ending Medellin." Go to the first profile that pops up. Go to the friend list. There are at least 28 working girls on the friend list, but it's probably closer to 50. There are also a large number of gringo mongers on the list.

Look at each girl's Facebook. If she looks good, add her as a friend. Repeat until you've sent a friend request to all of them. In a few hours you should start getting responses. Some will respond in a few hours, some in a few weeks, some never.

While you're waiting, start looking at each girl's friend list, if you can see it. Check out her friends. Many of them may be available. Add the best prospects. You can carry this as deep as you want. I've found girls that were 5 levels deep. You can do the same with all the gringo mongers. If you can see their friends, add the girls.

Some girls will message you immediately. These ones are hit and miss. Many will realize you're new and try to get a higher price. When you're a week away from landing start sending messages to your new friends. Keep it simple, especially if you're using Google translate. Don't rush to the goal. Most will pretty quickly tell you "quiero verte", I want to see you.

Don't try to set up a time until you're on the ground and settled in. Remember, traffic is bad and most live 30-60 minutes away. Also keep in mind that they need to get ready, and many need to find a babysitter.

Things to watch out for:

Any woman who quotes prices in dollars. Just tell her "Dale. Cuando estás en mi ciudad, the pagaré en dolares." Okay. When you're in my city I will pay you with dollars.

Any woman that immediately starts laying down the rules. Most will insist on a condom for sex. If they insist on condom for oral, either accept it, or pass. Don't offer more money. There are plenty who will be fine with chupa sin condon.

Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet.

Any woman who starts at higher than 300 k. I always answer with "siempre pago ciento cincuenta mil, mas veinte mil para taxi. " I always pay 150 k, plus 20 k for taxi. You can bump to 200 k (dos cientos mil) if you want.

Some guys insist you should clarify everything you want before. If you need anything out of the ordinary, that's a good idea. Personally, I don't bother. Nothing on my list is ever an issue. I also don't specify a time limit. If you tell her 1 hour, she'll expect more if she spends 2 hours. However, most are fine with spending 2 or 3 hours.

Don't pay in advance. Don't leave the girl unattended, unless she's in the bathroom. Don't let her mix drinks or make food for you.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2360197]Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I think the taxis raised their rates to 80 mil at least a couple months ago.

It's sad how bad the air gets contaminated here in town. Especially when there are no windy days and / or rain to cleanse the air in the Valley.

You don't really realize how bad it is until you leave town. I went to Guatape for the weekend and you could see for miles in the crisp crystal clear air in the mountains.

Upon returning to town, you could see the smog sitting in the valley and the air smelled bad. I remember back in the Spring the air contamination was so bad that one week all of the public "Undiad Deportivas" sport complexes were closed for almost a week. It's even gotten so bad in the past they have even banned cars besides Pico and Placa and let everyone ride the METRO for free.

The majority of the air pollution comes from all of the vehicles. They require annual smog checks for all the vehicles here. However, their emission allowances are not as strict as many locales in the USA. They have a higher sulfer content in the gasoline here. So they are saving money by not having to refine the gasoline as much. They could help alleviate the problem by refining the gasoline more but it would increase the cost of gasoline substantially.

Additionally, the City has been putting in dedicated bike lanes all over the City to help go green. However, by doing so they have also taken away car lanes and as a result travel time by car and congestion has increased substantially in the areas with the dedicated bike lanes.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2360390]Wolf, Have you stayed there since the name / mgmy change? Is it still as chica friendly as the HBP was?

TIA,

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]No I have not but I think PolloNegro has, PM him. Although I assume still chica friendly or he would have stayed somewhere else.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]It was very well translated, very few mistakes. Any idea who put it up? The same people with the "say NO to the sex tourist" stickers?

[QUOTE=Talon;2360080]Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.[/QUOTE]If this was an exchange you had with a Chica on Tinder, she gave you some very sound advice after the counter offer of 150 K you made to her.

She said to go get a SW, good advice, and perhaps you should respond back to her.

Tell her you spent 300 K for ten sessions with various Chicas off the street and there were no rules!

Perhaps some of these Chicas will come to their senses after a few responses like that.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2360135]I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, I just hide my passport in the room but you can have the front desk put it in their safe but get it back on a week day a day or 2 early before you leave in case the office is closed when you leave. Money I just get what I need from the ATM every day, keep some in my pocket and most plus credit card and copy of passport in money belt under my clothes.
Also read my lengthy review on the Hotel Botero (as it was called last year) in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925 lots of tips on the surrounding area.
[/QUOTE]Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

[QUOTE] I don't really recommend El Centro to Latin big city newbies who don't speak any Spanish. [/QUOTE]I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?

The link below is Charm City Dave's link in the Google Fi "refer a friend" program. He gets a $20 credit for each new subscriber that signs up through it. He drops like glowing reports and the link here in ISG from time to time, but has never informed us that he has a financial stake in it. The report may contain some good information but do consider the context. Cheers.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2360096]I used to juggle sim cards when I traveled. I tried T-Mobile and Sprint internationally and hated the slow speeds and awful customer service.

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[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2360108]I will be in the area all month long. Exercising and studying, you need any help, PM me and I'll assist you in any issue that I can! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Thank you very much! I'm working on my subscription. Will definitely PM you if I get it.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2360516]No I have not but I think PolloNegro has, PM him. Although I assume still chica friendly or he would have stayed somewhere else.[/QUOTE]And yes Wolf knows me well, I would have stayed else where, and the price has been cut in half, so if you have ever stayed and liked it, the price is cheaper and still chica friendly. I have no complaints. It's now called Ayenda Hotel Botero, pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2360391]Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars![/QUOTE]I admit I have a love-hate relationship with the Mansion. Yep it is a bit of a crutch and one certainly does not have to stay there to meet great girls. But it has some advantages even for the seasoned MDE visitor.

First (and with an unblemished history of heterosexuality) I've made some great friends from the fellow travelers that have stayed there. Second they do an excellent job of validating cedulas. JjBee62 wisely advises us to avoid 'Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet. ' The mansion regularly busts girls with fake cedulas. You can buy one in MDE for a few dollars. Many JB girls use their older sisters or cousins cedula. You can get in just as much trouble banging a 17 yo with a fake cedula as you can a 17 yo with no cedula. And while I pass on 80% of the girls that frequent there, I've found some great ones there, especially girls that are new to the Mansion. New girls are always showing up there. The older crew hates me and labeled me 'Senior Cita' because I'm always putting them off telling them I already have a Cita, often with girls that don't fequent the Mansion. I don't care. I speak passable Spanish. I have 1000 MDE contacts in my Facebook.

Sometimes I stay in an Apartment. Sometime I'll start my trip in the Mansion and then go to an apartment. Sometimes I'm just in an apartment mood, especially when I have friends in town. But there are fewer buildings in MDE that allow short term rental and do a good job of security. But I don't look down on or ridicule the guys who only stay there. Getting laid several times a day it's nice to have daily maid service. Sometimes I've paid a a few bucks just to get my sheets changed more than once a day lol... Some of the rooms are dated. Some are noisy. If I can't get the room I want (or more frequently they want me to play musical rooms), I don't stay there. As for the 'Mansion Regular', some have been going to MDE for many years, don't need the Mansion. They just prefer it. To each their own.

As a side note I wish there were nice hotels in good neighborhoods that allowed mutiple chicas a day but I haven't found them. If someone has some intel in that area, please share it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2360501]I went to Guatape for the weekend and you could see for miles in the crisp crystal clear air in the mountains.

[/QUOTE]How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.

[QUOTE=Franko11;2359569]Hi,

I generally prefer hotels, but if they won't let the chica in, I will go to an apartment.

Are chicas banned from hotels in Medellin?

What if they arrive separately and to your room alone?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've done both Franko and no problem. Both your Airbnb doorman and hotel front desk will check her ID though. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2360197]Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.[/QUOTE][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/hasta-3-horas-tunel-de-oriente/347156/[/URL]

Hasta 3 why 4 horas tardaron algunos ciudadanos en desplazarse entre Medelland why Rionegro utilizando el Tnel de Oriente.

It took up to 3 and 4 hours for some citizens to travel between Medellin and Rionegro using the Oriente Tunnel.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2360369]Young guys will more naturally blend into social scenes, clubs, etc. with young regular chics. If your Spanish is on point, you can skip mongering even if you are older and pick up regular about being with you.

The key is time on the ground. If you're in MDE for a month or more, non-pros become a legitimate option. Much less than that and the girls (non-pros) are generally leery about being with you.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360570]Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?[/QUOTE]Naw, just look like you know where you are going and what you are doing, no flashy jewelry and wear and keep the phone in your pocket and taxis for more then a block or 2 at night although I walked to the 3 close strip clubs at all hours. Some of my buddies who speak no Spanish have stayed there with no problems.

OK guys, for the frequent posters here, why'all know I've posted my intention of coming to Colombia on this forum. I originally planned for a full 3 months to be split between Colombia, Sao Paulo, & Rio. The bad news is I will have settle for 9 weeks instead. The good news is the trip is still happening! I plan to stay 3 weeks in Colombia.

I'm currently shopping for flight tickets. I found flights from LAX to Bogota to be almost half as much as flights to Sao Paulo. So its obvious from the money side, that I should fly into Bogota. I then will stay one night in Bogota and then fly to Rio the next day. After spending 6 weeks in Brazil, I will fly back to Bogota and stay in Colombia for 3 weeks. Then from Bogota, I will fly back to the states. I know logistically this is doable. How does flight plan seem to you guys? I will have problems with customs in either Brazil or Colombia? That's the only thing I'm worried about.

I know Colombia require travelers from Brazil a yellow vaccination to enter the country, which I already gotten earlier this year, so I should be good from that.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2360593]How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.[/QUOTE]Your friends advice is correct, don't bother going there on the weekends because of the crowds, midweek is best. I took my Novia there over the weekend, but we were shacked up at Hotel Los Recuerdos in a Suite overlooking the Lake so no problems with the crowds except in the chow line for dinner at the Hotel.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360570]Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?[/QUOTE]No Spanish speaking skills doesn't mean that you can't navigate or be successful in El Centro, but it's not like the DR where most of the clients are foreigners versus in El Centro where most of the clients are Colombians. Probably best to stick to the Casa's as El Centro can be dangerous and a bit tricky at times, especially with no Spanish speaking skills.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2360459]
Any woman who quotes prices in dollars. Just tell her "Dale. Cuando ests en mi ciudad, the pagar en dolares." Okay. When you're in my city I will pay you with dollars.

Any woman that immediately starts laying down the rules. Most will insist on a condom for sex. If they insist on condom for oral, either accept it, or pass. Don't offer more money. There are plenty who will be fine with chupa sin condon.

Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet.

Any woman who starts at higher than 300 k. I always answer with "siempre pago ciento cincuenta mil, mas veinte mil para taxi. " I always pay 150 k, plus 20 k for taxi. You can bump to 200 k (dos cientos mil) if you want.

Some guys insist you should clarify everything you want before. If you need anything out of the ordinary, that's a good idea. Personally, I don't bother. Nothing on my list is ever an issue. I also don't specify a time limit. If you tell her 1 hour, she'll expect more if she spends 2 hours. However, most are fine with spending 2 or 3 hours.

Don't pay in advance. Don't leave the girl unattended, unless she's in the bathroom. Don't let her mix drinks or make food for you.[/QUOTE]Do you pay 150 k + taxi for one pop or two pops?

Been in Medellin for some time. FB scene lives upto its hype. Probably nowhere in the world, FB is used liked this. Most of the girls I sessioned with had pretty good attitudes.

1. Dahiana Meija (fb valentina. Mejia. 355138):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: Little extra fat which she could lose.

Attitude: I have a mixed feelings, others may have a great time with her.

Service: She can be wild in the bed.

Beautiful face, she has fat on her midsection. A thorough professional, unfortunately had a very hurried experience with her because of time constraints. Others can try and post a review. Never asked her but she does anal.

WIR: Probably no, as I like girls next door. She seems to be extremely high volume.

2. Angie (fb profile. Php? ID=100009051552032):

Face: Average.

Body: Average.

Attitude: Pretty good. She tries to be bubbly and engaged when she is with you.

Service: Average in bed.

She is tries to act like your GF, when you are with her. Cheerful, sweet and bubbly girl.

3. Jenifer (fb jenifer. Restrepo. 754):

Face: 0/10.

Body: 0/10.

Service: 10/10 Facefuck.

First time I met her, she gave a pretty good blowjob, I came in short amount of time with CIM and swallowed like a champ. Didn't even fuck her and she wanted out ASAP.

Some other time late at night a girl cancelled on me and I couldn't arrange anyone else I fancied to come at that hour. Contacted her, she agreed even when she didn't have data on phone and we would have no means to communicate after she leaves her home. And incidentally her taxi couldn't find my hotel. But somehow she reached at middle of night.

*Warning: Sex acts details incoming, skip if you don't want to read. *.

And thus began epic face-fuckathon. Fucked her face for a long long time, can't even take a guess in minutes, it seemed like eternity. She would put my dick in her mouth and I would shove down her throat and her face fuck her till she was short of breath, she would take catch her breath and we go again. In middle, I thought maybe I will give her some rest and let her do it at her own pace. Again she put my dick in her mouth, but this time I didn't grab her head to shove it down. She looks up, still dick in her mouth and give me the "What happened, why are you not facefuking me?" eyes. LOL.

At the end I got tired and jerked myself into her mouth, but this time didn't swallow for some reason.

*Sex Acts end here*.

WIR: If fancy a Facefuck.

4. Juliana (fb profile. Php? ID=100010105123369):

Face: Decent.

Body: Pretty big and tight boobs.

Service: Not bad, not good.

Had an average forgetable session with her. In the middle of the fuck she tried telling her pussy is done and can't take anymore. She seemed very mercenary.

WIR: No.

5. Lory Maciass (fb 020715lory):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: Decent, she has little bit of baby damage.

Attitude: Really good, is very fun and has an amazing taste in music.

Based on her attitude while we were spending time with each other I thought I found a unicorn but unfortunately she has a very bad case of yeast infection. My dick went soft, she tried to get me off by blowing but her yeast infection was so offputting that my dick had become an inverted vagina and no blow amount of blow could convince it to come out. Gave her 100 k for her time.

WIR: No.

6. Manuela (not mentioning fb link in respect for the previous poster who had reviewed her but himself didn't give the profile link):

Face: Pretty good.

Body: previous poster's appreciation for her boobs is justified. Amazing natural boobs.

Attitude: not bad.

Service: 0/10.

Had second worst experience with her. She asked propina even for blowjob with condom. Maybe she had a bad day when she met me in the evening or she didn't like me at all. She was the perfect example of YMMV as previous had a decent experience her and he even did a repeat. She seemed very very mercenary and it was all about the money as if I picked a Street Walker from Tijuana.

7. valentina Meija ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100036270324071[/URL]):

Worst.

She was sending her nudes whole week to me to meet her and talking a lot of shit on messenger. Finally when we met it was the greatest anti-climax ever.

Someone said on this forum: "Girl which talks the most before the session, performs the worst". Truer words have never been spoken. Just a clarification, talking the most is here is about how she will be amazing and how you much you will enjoy etc. Not the regular chatting.

I qouted every one 150 plus taxi and I paid everyone between 170 k and 200 k COP including taxi.

In conclusion, I have been very impressed by Medellin. If you want to check out lots of pictures of girls and then call them to your hotel for a non-mechanical session for just 60 USD Probably this is the best city in the world to do that.

P.S: forum is behaving weirdly and putting unnecessary "hard returns/Enter" even where I didn't put when writing the report

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2360658]Do you pay 150 k + taxi for one pop or two pops?[/QUOTE]That falls under "I don't specify. " I'm generally a one and done guy. However, I'm usually spending 2 hours minimum with the girls. I've had a few girls, after a short recovery period, initiate a second round, but they rarely get a second pop. That's because the second one takes some serious dedication.

One of my favorite sessions, although not one of my favorite girls, was interesting. She was pretty distant at the beginning, shy, not initiating anything. Then I found her buttons and she turned into a beast. Finished me off and we laid down to catch our breath and take a short nap. 30 minutes later she attacked again. Got me up, grabbed a condom and rode me like a pogo stick until she spent about 2 minutes screaming. As soon as her breathing returned to normal, she hopped off, rolled over and went right to sleep.

For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. If we're having fun we don't want to be staring at the clock. I did specify with one of my repeats that we would be spending a minimum of 3 hours together. Another new girl I specified all night, even though we ended up only spending 5 hours together. When it was over I paid her the TLN rate, because I was the one who was finished. She complained that I'd paid her too much since I didn't get the full time.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2360607][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/hasta-3-horas-tunel-de-oriente/347156/[/URL]

Hasta 3 why 4 horas tardaron algunos ciudadanos en desplazarse entre Medelland why Rionegro utilizando el Tnel de Oriente.
It took up to 3 and 4 hours for some citizens to travel between Medellin and Rionegro using the Oriente Tunnel.[/QUOTE]It took 52 minutes to go to airport via tunnel yesterday. Was a bit of traffic. Had a laugh at the giant yellow and black squirrel sign.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2360593]How was Guatape on the weekend? I've been meaning to get back out there and a friend was telling me it's much better during midweek as far as not as crowded.[/QUOTE]Good advice from your friend, go during the week for sure!

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360570]Wolf. Thank you very much for the tips and detailed review!

I'm newbie to Colombia and don't speak any Spanish, but have a lot of experience navigating through DR and other countries (rough places. Not Blackbeards) - I'm going to be extra careful, don't walk after dawn. Only taxi and Uber. You still don't recommend El Centro?[/QUOTE]If price is your main concern then there's many bargains to be had with the various strip clubs, casas, and streetwalkers in centro. I've been there a few times (I'm tall, blonde, and white as a cloud, so I don't exactly blend in) and you'll be fine during the day, as long as you're not an idiot. Don't go wearing a bunch of gold jewelry, or taking videos with the latest Iphone, or flashing stacks of cash, or anything that will paint a giant target on your back. At night though I would only go as part of a larger group or with a trusted local to act as a guide and guard.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2360742]That falls under "I don't specify. " I'm generally a one and done guy. However, I'm usually spending 2 hours minimum with the girls. I've had a few girls, after a short recovery period, initiate a second round, but they rarely get a second pop. That's because the second one takes some serious dedication.

One of my favorite sessions, although not one of my favorite girls, was interesting. She was pretty distant at the beginning, shy, not initiating anything. Then I found her buttons and she turned into a beast. Finished me off and we laid down to catch our breath and take a short nap. 30 minutes later she attacked again. Got me up, grabbed a condom and rode me like a pogo stick until she spent about 2 minutes screaming. As soon as her breathing returned to normal, she hopped off, rolled over and went right to sleep.

For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. If we're having fun we don't want to be staring at the clock. I did specify with one of my repeats that we would be spending a minimum of 3 hours together. Another new girl I specified all night, even though we ended up only spending 5 hours together. When it was over I paid her the TLN rate, because I was the one who was finished. She complained that I'd paid her too much since I didn't get the full time.[/QUOTE]Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2360682]FB scene lives upto its hype. Probably nowhere in the world, FB is used liked this. Most of the girls I sessioned with had pretty good attitudes.

Someone said on this forum: "Girl which talks the most before the session, performs the worst". Truer words have never been spoken.[/QUOTE]The phrase is an empty wagon makes the most noise.

I found it funny that you were turned off about something in each session that you reported. Maybe it lives up to the hype that you can easily get chicks there, but getting a good session that you would consider repeating seems to be another story in your case.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2360742]For me, I don't do hour citas. If a girl tells me her rate is for an hour, I explain that I don't do time limits. [/QUOTE]If a girl tells me her rate for an hour, I ask how much for just 15 minutes.

Arrived at the above mentioned location in El Centro along side the Museum at 4:30 PM on Tuesday afternoon. I have never seen so many Chicas out and available ever before. Hundreds of them within a 300 Meter radius of this location. Mind boggling to say the least. Within 5 minutes one of my regulars, a tiny little spinner came up to me and asked me to go Arriba.

A rough decision for me as El Centro is kind of like an ice cream shop with all the choices of flavors. So much variety, on Monday afternoon when I was in El Centro I met up with my Indian Princess, she swears she is not Indigenous but is, and is tall with a body like a Zebra, and tight as a drum!

I actually was in the mood for a spinner, another one of my tight ones, so I took her Ariba.

Today you almost needed a fly swatter in El Centro to fend off all the Chicas available.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2360764]It took 52 minutes to go to airport via tunnel yesterday. Was a bit of traffic. Had a laugh at the giant yellow and black squirrel sign.[/QUOTE]What time of day and where did you start from in Medellin. Another words, were you say in Laureles, and from the time they picked you up and dropped you off at the Terminal it was 52 minutes. And where was the traffic, inside the Tunnel or before or after?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2360962]If a girl tells me her rate for an hour, I ask how much for just 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]All due respect Mr. E, but somebody might read this and think you ejaculate pre-maturely if your only interested in a fifteen minute session, which I assume is not the case here.

If a girl tells you how much for an hour, instead of asking her how much for 15 minutes, you tell her you only want 15 minutes and offer her 1/4 of the price you were quoted.

Most probably the girl will be very insulted, and maybe offer a small price break but not much for less time. Thankfully here in Medellin it is not like in Tijuana where a lot of the street girls turn the timers on when you enter the room!

[QUOTE=Talon;2360843]If price is your main concern then there's many bargains to be had with the various strip clubs, casas, and streetwalkers in centro. I've been there a few times (I'm tall, blonde, and white as a cloud, so I don't exactly blend in) and you'll be fine during the day, as long as you're not an idiot. [/QUOTE]The price is not my main concern, but as I have only 4 nights in Medellin after reading multiple reports I decided to stay closer to action.

[QUOTE] Don't go wearing a bunch of gold jewelry...[/QUOTE]That's easy doable as I'm not wearing any jewelry even in NY LOL. Need just switch watch to the cheap model.

Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2360649]No Spanish speaking skills doesn't mean that you can't navigate or be successful in El Centro, but it's not like the DR where most of the clients are foreigners versus in El Centro where most of the clients are Colombians. Probably best to stick to the Casa's as El Centro can be dangerous and a bit tricky at times, especially with no Spanish speaking skills.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Will start with the Casa's and hopefully will get more tips from PolloNegro on the ground.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2360926]Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).[/QUOTE]I have had the best experiences with women that don't talk price before meeting you and a few that never brought up price at all. I just paid them what I thought they were worth and never got a complaint.

A hardened hoe will always try and nail down the price beforehand. But girls that don't want to torture themselves by fucking guys that that absolutely despise will look for guys that they are OK with and can be very accommodating on their price especially if you let it be known that you would like to see them on a regular basis.

I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142[/URL]

Feedback appreciated as always.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142[/URL]

Feedback appreciated as always.[/QUOTE]Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2361107]Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.[/QUOTE]She definitely has a colombian number +57 350 number.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2360926]Some Facebook girls will ask for how much am I paying her before she comes, which is fine. I prefer we all on an agreement. But some girls won't talk about prices even though I try to discuss it with her. Do you ever run into problem with girls at the end because she want more? My price is 150 m + taxi, 300 m if it's a TLN (Asuming you haven't done her before).[/QUOTE]If a new girl won't give me a price, unless I'm setting up a date (rarely), instead of a session, I won't bother meeting her. If it's obvious we're talking about sex I'll ask how much. If she doesn't give an answer, I tell her what I usually pay and then ask if that's ok. If she still won't answer I'll tell her to message me when she decides and move on.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not. I was taking to this chica who's Facebook I am going to post below, amazing body pretty face, and I think she is one of the best I have seen looks wise. So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". I have not had any real world experience with these chicas in medellin or on Facebook and the whole thing seemed strange to me, I started getting the feeling that she may not be real, she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. Does a girl this pretty need to hustle guys on the internet for money?. Anyway I did tell her I would try to find her a date and if she is for real, I might be doing you a favor. Anyone knows if she is a real thing I would like to know.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142[/URL]

Feedback appreciated as always.[/QUOTE]Is she real? Probably not. Look at her profile. Every picture was added on June 9 and 10. No other entries. I didn't do an image search, but I assume you will find those photos used elsewhere. I get a request from a few accounts like that one each week. Unless you're looking for an excuse to send money to some guy in Colombia, they're a complete waste of time.

If she needs a phone, how did she send you a picture of an empty refrigerator? Have her send a picture of herself in front of an empty refrigerator. If she's sending you pictures, ask for something specific. If it's just someone using stock photos he's going to have a tough time finding a picture of her drinking a Colombiana.

If she wants you to send money have her send a photo of her cedula, front and back, and a picture of her holding the cedula. That's when you'll learn about the lost cedula. Fortunately, she has a cousin named Brayan who you can send the money to.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]I have been working on building a Facebook list and getting some whatsapp contacts as part of the process. I have been Facebook messaging some of these girls if I am not sure if they are prepagos or not.[/QUOTE]2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita,.[/QUOTE]All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.

[QUOTE=Engine Driver;2361174]My trip to the Philippines is still many weeks away and I've been playing around with Pina Love for free for about 2 weeks now as a social experiment. The amount of bullshit on this site is truly nauseating.

My strategy is to not waste any more time on dating apps like PL, FC or DIA. I'm just going to land at NAIA, pick up a free SIM, insert it into my mongering phone, turn on WeChat and Tinder, and go hunt some pussy. There is no point in over complicating things.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2361077]I have had the best experiences with women that don't talk price before meeting you and a few that never brought up price at all. I just paid them what I thought they were worth and never got a complaint.

A hardened hoe will always try and nail down the price beforehand. But girls that don't want to torture themselves by fucking guys that that absolutely despise will look for guys that they are OK with and can be very accommodating on their price especially if you let it be known that you would like to see them on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]Some of my best experiences have been with SW's in EL Centro who have quoted me 20 K with no discussion of what would transpire whatsoever in the room. Granted these are not beauty queens by any stretch of the imagination, but not fuglies, and some of them have become part of my stable whom I pay very well, anywhere from 40 to 60 K now as they are performers and I get the full Monty from them. I guess my point is, some of the best experiences I have had like you, are when not much is talked about, and money isn't really an issue going in.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2361036]The price is not my main concern, but as I have only 4 nights in Medellin after reading multiple reports I decided to stay closer to action.

That's easy doable as I'm not wearing any jewelry even in NY LOL. Need just switch watch to the cheap model.

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]For years I wore a cheap Casio watch while I traveled and was always surprised and amused by how many people tried to steal it off my wrist. Bring nothing you can't afford to lose! In that past I've had people steal the charger to my electric razor and my tweezers!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2360587]And yes Wolf knows me well, I would have stayed else where, and the price has been cut in half, so if you have ever stayed and liked it, the price is cheaper and still chica friendly. I have no complaints. It's now called Ayenda Hotel Botero, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Where is a good place to stay that is chica friendly?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]So we exchanged whatsapp numbers and she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento".[/QUOTE]Wow! I usually only hear one sob story per girl, but you've gotten multiple from one! Lucky you!

It's always someone stole my phone, my kids need food, my grandma is sick, my rent is due, etc. The brazenness is simply astounding sometimes. One girl, with whom I had five separate sessions with, hit me up for another 200 mil a week after I had left Colombia, claiming she urgently needed it for rent. After pointing out I know for a fact I had given her close to a million already she claimed she gave it all to her mother who spent in on furniture and utilities. If I don't help they'll soon be on the streets! Meanwhile she posts videos of herself showing off new clothes and sitting around her bed smoking weed.

Another girl who I've only talked to through Whatsapp wanted me to wire her 1,200,000 so she could set up her own webcam studio. But not to worry--she'll pay me back as soon as she can! When I asked her if she would loan a stranger they've never met 1,200,000 she wouldn't answer.

The Colombians have a saying, "dar papaya", literally "to give papaya", meaning "don't put yourself in a position where people can easily take advantage of you". Take their advice!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361198]2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.

All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.[/QUOTE]You need to get out more. Just kidding.

If you're active on Facebook you'll attract a lot of accounts adding or messaging. Some are trolls. Some are hookers. Some are guys who are pissed off at you and are hoping to get you in a compromising situation. I even get a few death threats every year. Those last two may only apply to me.

It's not only hookers. However, you're right. Almost every one is someone hoping to somehow profit from you.

Why waste time on this shit? Because, if you use it right, it's neither shit, nor a waste of time.

Casa or strip club:

Walk in, see what's available. Decide on whether to take one or try another casa or strip club. Repeat until you decide to return to the first casa or strip club just to find out there's nothing there you want. Almost every time you need to adjust your expectations. Once you choose, go to the room. Strip, fuck, wash off, dress, pay (unless you had to prepay) and leave. You spent 50-100 k for 20-30 minutes and spent how long finding the right girl?

Facebook:

Spend a few hours at home finding and adding girls. Then every few days, spend 5 minutes adding more. Maybe spend time finding out others experiences with the girls. A few days before your trip spend 5 minutes introducing yourself to each favorite. Nothing complicated. If you play it right, 30 minutes after settling in you can have someone in your room. Or, if you really play it right, you can have the girl pick you up at the airport and she'll help carry your luggage. You pay 150-200 k and spend from 1 to 5 hours with the girl.

Neither way is the best way. Each depends on what you want. If I just want a simple fuck, I go to a casa. If I want to have a few drinks with a girl before a simple fuck, I go to a strip club.

But if I want someone to come and hang out, talk, have a drink and do more than just fuck, I turn to Facebook. If I want a girl to go see a movie, go to dinner, or clubbing before heading back for a few hours of fun, Facebook. Want to go hiking around Parque Arvi? Go to Santa Fe de Antioquia? Or do any other activity you want company for? Facebook. Or do you have a particular fetish? Would you rather play 20 questions at each casa, trying to find someone willing, or just put a few pics on Facebook showing what you want and choose from the 20 girls who hit you up?

The other option is to go out and meet a regular girl, spend from a few days to a few weeks getting to a physical relationship and then call her for everything, except for the quick and simple fuck at a casa or strip club. You might save money in the long run, but it comes with a new set of problems. How many guys, who only get out 2 weeks a year are willing to invest that much just hoping to get laid?

But, if some girl you've never met starts asking for money, whether on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, walk away. There's nothing there for you.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361104]she text me saying " I need a phone". Now I still might want to experience this girl so I do not laugh at her like I wanted to. I just tell her "nothing I can do about that from here", then she sends me a photo of an open refrigerator that is completely empty and says "No tengo mercado" , too which I reply "lo siento". So I said "I might be able to get ahold of some gringos in Medellin and get you a cita, would she like that? And she says "si". [/QUOTE]I took my first trip to Thailand in 98, no whatsapp, no Facebook but I exchanged email addresses with a number of girls. Just like clockwork I started receiving urgent appeals for money with some variation of water buffalo pregnant and Grandmother sick (or water buffalo sick and Grandmother pregnant) story.

I have lost count of the number of such appeals I have received in the last 22 years. Last summer in MDE a girl sent me a picture of very sick looking old lady claiming it was her grandma. I googled the picture and found it was a woman in the Ukraine. I busted her with a link to the page she stole the photo from. Last month a Mansion girl I had a mediocre session with wrote me every day about her hungry baby. To her I just replied, 'go to work'. Some of the appeals are simple, some are part of elaborate stories. The only time I ever sent money was to a Rio 4 X4 girl (almost 20 years ago) who had a kid in the hospital in Rio. I knew her very well, was able to verify the kid was very sick and in the hospital and was happy to help. Only time in 22 years. Makes my support rate much less than 1%.

Past that, I always politely decline. I explain that I get those requests all the time and that if I sent money to everyone who asked, I'd be poor. Sometimes, if I see a girl many times on a trip, I tell them before I leave about my policy just to head off the issue. Pretty much everyone I turned down was happy to see me at a later date, if that opportunity provided itself. The girl with the fake grandma picture is a monster in bed and I saw her again this summer 3 times. The whole photo scam thing was not mentioned. So don't let concern about that influence how you respond in the slightest.

[QUOTE=Talon;2361228].. how many people tried to steal it off my wrist. [/QUOTE]Really? Off your wrist? Can you please share details?

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2361266]Past that, I always politely decline. I explain that I get those requests all the time and that if I sent money to everyone who asked, I'd be poor. Sometimes, if I see a girl many times on a trip, I tell them before I leave about my policy just to head off the issue. Pretty much everyone I turned down was happy to see me at a later date, if that opportunity provided itself. The girl with the fake grandma picture is a monster in bed and I saw her again this summer 3 times. The whole photo scam thing was not mentioned. So don't let concern about that influence how you respond in the slightest.[/QUOTE]The proverbial Request For Money RFM's. Its truly amazing how contorted they can be. A girl in the Philippines once sent me a photo of her in a supposed Hospital bed with an IV hooked up to her and said she had been hospitalized due to an accident, etc. The photo was so staged and hokey looking it was hilarious.

You have to give these women credit for trying, albeit how lame some of the stories are. And the reason they do it is because other guys have taken the bait, so if I were in their shoes I would do it too, as they have nothing to lose making a RFM.

You are dead on about being concerned how a Chica might respond when told no to a RFM. I have one Chica here in Medellin who try's the RFM routine on me from time to time, and when she does I bench her for a while. And after time passes and we hook up again (which I only do because she is so tight and wet) it's like nothing happened just as you mentioned.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2361038]Thank you. Will start with the Casa's and hopefully will get more tips from PolloNegro on the ground.[/QUOTE]If you go with PolloNegro whom I have never met, but have seen some of his posts, well you might very well turn into an El Centro street rat! If so, welcome to the club and make sure to go the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 around 4 PM in the afternoon as this is "ground zero".

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2361270]Really? Off your wrist? Can you please share details?[/QUOTE]You can find tutorials on Youtube nowadays: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq0GO14QiGM[/URL].

The watch I wore had a fold over clasp instead of a buckle. The best thieves I've encountered could undo the clasp while distracting me but none of them ever managed to slide it over my oversized hands without me noticing. I stopped wearing it anyway once smartphones took off.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361198]2019. Who is going around adding and answering messages from strangers on facebook? Only hookers. Who the hell has only various pictures of themselves dressed in slutty clothing and seems to be proud to write "I do not work" on facebook? Only hookers or someone that is trying to hustle you for money. I am not sure where your doubt lies.

All this shit sounds ridiculous. This is why there is no need to prearrange hookers. If a hooker can not bring you pussy right now what is the use? But of course a trick can make a payment 24/7/365. Why would a total stranger need to hook a hooker up with a foreigner when there are millions of local guys that she can service? She knows where she can go if she needs to get money on her back. But what an angel you are for offering to help her find other foreigners to fleece. Why waste your time with this shit dude? Walk into a casa or strip club, pick a chick you like, go fuck. No fuss, no muss, no sob stories.[/QUOTE]I wrote that post when I was up in the middle of the night with insomnia, so after a little sleep I did what I should have done before writing the post. I Googled the photos.

This is where the Fake Profile stole the photos from:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pg/vanessasalasoficial/posts/[/URL]

Thanks for the feedback though, I expected someone to yell at me over this post. But the part where I said "I did tell her I would help her find a date. " was something meant to be taken as sarcastic, I forget that sarcasm cannot be carried over in text. I assumed that when I said " she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. " that I made the point she was most likely a fake profile. I just wasn't Hundred percent positive. I hope that any guy who read the post would realize that she was a hustler. The only thing that gave me a sliver of doubt that she was real was that when I offered to find her a date, I thought she would come back with some reason she couldn't and instead she said yes. On the off chance she was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her. My question was meant to ask if she was a hustler and a real facebook page. As another member responded earlier, all these chicas have a sad story to tell to attempt to pry money out of our hands. His chica was a real facebook chica he had citas with and a hustler. I have been trolling LatinAmeric* and ColombianCu**the for years and have heard my share of bullshit stories about why I should send some chica money. My go to answer some of the time is "ever since the company I worked for got busted for importing stolen antiquities, I'm not allowed to wire money". Why don't I just cut off communication with them, most of the time I do, but I also find it somewhat entertaining to fuck with them right back. On the off chance this chica was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her.

So to answer your question: Where did my doubt lie, is he a hooker or a hustler, no, is she a hooker AND a hustler or just a hustler, and of course I now know that she is just a hustler.

I am seriously happy for you that you can get your satisfaction from visiting casas. I have just never liked them, I did them in Mexico years ago and the process isn't for me. I wish it was, it would be a lot less trouble for me. I am envious of the guys who enjoy them.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2361107]Is here wpp number Medellin or at least Colombian? I follow a girl from Mexico on IG and unless I'm mistaken these are her photos. I hope I am wrong but think this is a fake profile.[/QUOTE]Is this the girl you follow on IG, she could have an profile in both places. This is an "official" profile that says "fashion model" but does not say where she is based. When I google the photos from the fake facebook profile I found this:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/vanessasalasoficial/[/URL]

Even if you didn't get hits on google with her pics you should take notice that all the pics are glamour shots. I use Facebook exclusively and have very good success. The pics I see from girls I have from FB are with them taken from what is obviously Medellin. Only having glamour shots is a red flag. Asking for money without knowing you is a setup.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361336]I wrote that post when I was up in the middle of the night with insomnia, so after a little sleep I did what I should have done before writing the post. I Googled the photos.

This is where the Fake Profile stole the photos from:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pg/vanessasalasoficial/posts/[/URL]

Thanks for the feedback though, I expected someone to yell at me over this post. But the part where I said "I did tell her I would help her find a date. " was something meant to be taken as sarcastic, I forget that sarcasm cannot be carried over in text. I assumed that when I said " she has a shitload of contacts 1600 followers, over a hundred likes on her photos, many of which are gringos with those made up names that they use for their monger profiles, and her refrigerator is empty and she can't find her own cita by messaging around all these followers?. " that I made the point she was most likely a fake profile. I just wasn't Hundred percent positive. I hope that any guy who read the post would realize that she was a hustler. The only thing that gave me a sliver of doubt that she was real was that when I offered to find her a date, I thought she would come back with some reason she couldn't and instead she said yes. On the off chance she was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her. My question was meant to ask if she was a hustler and a real facebook page. As another member responded earlier, all these chicas have a sad story to tell to attempt to pry money out of our hands. His chica was a real facebook chica he had citas with and a hustler. I have been trolling LatinAmeric* and ColombianCu**the for years and have heard my share of bullshit stories about why I should send some chica money. My go to answer some of the time is "ever since the company I worked for got busted for importing stolen antiquities, I'm not allowed to wire money". Why don't I just cut off communication with them, most of the time I do, but I also find it somewhat entertaining to fuck with them right back. On the off chance this chica was real (little head think) I would still want to nail her.

So to answer your question: Where did my doubt lie, is he a hooker or a hustler, no, is she a hooker AND a hustler or just a hustler, and of course I now know that she is just a hustler.

I am seriously happy for you that you can get your satisfaction from visiting casas. I have just never liked them, I did them in Mexico years ago and the process isn't for me. I wish it was, it would be a lot less trouble for me. I am envious of the guys who enjoy them.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2361345]Even if you didn't get hits on google with her pics you should take notice that all the pics are glamour shots. I use Facebook exclusively and have very good success. The pics I see from girls I have from FB are with them taken from what is obviously Medellin. Only having glamour shots is a red flag. Asking for money without knowing you is a setup.

.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the pointer, any advice is helpful, I have been trying to build a cache of Facebook Medellin "friends". Most of them are actually from Bello, I am going to send you a PM about some profiles I am looking at and for some general advice. If you don't respond, I understand.

Check your email.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361351]Thank you for the pointer, any advice is helpful, I have been trying to build a cache of Facebook Medellin "friends". Most of them are actually from Bello, I am going to send you a PM about some profiles I am looking at and for some general advice. If you don't respond, I understand.[/QUOTE].

When I visit Medellin which is quite often I will rent a apartment for a month and will check into the Mansion for 2 or 3 nights in the beginning. I always have a great time partying there and grab around 10 -12 phone numbers from the Chicas there. Then when I leave to go back to my apartment I have plenty of screened Chica's to draw on. Facebook is a little difficult for me for obvious reasons, kind of difficult getting that 2nd account set up for me any way. Tried a few Chica's on PhotoPrepagos and Mileroticas, not so great, lots of airbrushing or wanting a lot more money that what their ad states. So yeah, I like the Mansion.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2360592]I admit I have a love-hate relationship with the Mansion. Yep it is a bit of a crutch and one certainly does not have to stay there to meet great girls. But it has some advantages even for the seasoned MDE visitor.

First (and with an unblemished history of heterosexuality) I've made some great friends from the fellow travelers that have stayed there. Second they do an excellent job of validating cedulas. JjBee62 wisely advises us to avoid 'Any woman who claims to have lost her cedula. There's a good chance she doesn't have one because she's not 18 yet. ' The mansion regularly busts girls with fake cedulas. You can buy one in MDE for a few dollars. Many JB girls use their older sisters or cousins cedula. You can get in just as much trouble banging a 17 yo with a fake cedula as you can a 17 yo with no cedula. And while I pass on 80% of the girls that frequent there, I've found some great ones there, especially girls that are new to the Mansion. New girls are always showing up there. The older crew hates me and labeled me 'Senior Cita' because I'm always putting them off telling them I already have a Cita, often with girls that don't fequent the Mansion. I don't care. I speak passable Spanish. I have 1000 MDE contacts in my Facebook. .[/QUOTE]

I have used Uber in Medellin and found them to be pretty hit and miss on picking you up. On my last trip I would just walk outside of my apartment and have a Taxi within 1 minute. For the negligible price difference they are not worth the hassle.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2345493]Today is my break day. After 4 long sessions with 5 girls in 3 days, I'm running out of steam. Yesterday's was the best and worst all rolled into one.

I was scheduled to meet a former webcam model who worked for me at noon. However at 3 am my rheumatoid arthritis decided to join the party. I managed to put it back to bed by 9:30 and got ready for my day.

Next obstacle was Uber. I was trying to get to Oviedo mall to exchange some dollars (why is explained in another post) and drivers kept canceling. Finally a taxi pulled up and I was on my way. After completing the transaction I headed to the Metro. We were meeting at Prado station after she finished her classes.

I arrived 30 minutes early and found a shady spot to sit, wait and respond to some messages. Then some glue sniffer decided I needed to hear about his problems. Most will leave me alone after I wave them off, but this guy kept getting closer. Then he got belligerent, which got him a belligerent response (not recommended). I left him cussing me and went back up the stairs to the metro station.

After a metro employee told me I couldn't sit on the stairs because there were too many people, my mood began to deteriorate. Prado is probably the slowest station on the main trunk. There were very few people coming and going. Another beggar, who insisted on whispering got me riled up again. Eventually I chased him away. Now all I needed was for the girl to cancel.[/QUOTE]

I like TMobile, I get to most most countries south of the boarder and the phone just works. Internet, texting all free and phone calls $.25 per minute.

I don't even have to call them before I leave.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2360183]One of us misunderstand what PN is saying. You are roaming so you don't have a problem. Try to put a Colombia SIM in your sprint phone to see if it works.[/QUOTE]

The Colombian people are very proud and whenever I visit I am always respectful of their culture. I many Colombians are wary of the sex tourist due to all the articles that are written about us in their papers. I was in a Cafe there around 3 weeks ago in El Poblado and they had a sign that said "No Sex Tourists". So when you visit have a good time but try to show a little respect.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2360036]This type of reaction is inevitable. It's not the guys who overpay the girls who are the biggest threat to a mongering destination. It's the guys who binge on Narcos, thinking it's a realistic representation of Medellin.

There's a regular stream of posts from them, and who knows how many get blocked by the admins, displaying the wrong attitude. They all plan on partying like rock stars, with no regard for the people who live there.

Add in the recent fool on YouTube who was teaching guys to harass and intimidate Colombian women. It's bound to create some anger towards the US tourists. There's other factors, but I don't want to get a political argument started.

Will it affect the typical visitor? Probably not. If you're using discretion, keeping a low profile and showing some respect most people will remain friendly. You might get a few more nasty looks than before, but no real issues.[/QUOTE]

This is a fairly new place located in Guayabal. Right now they are giving a 30% discount. I took the nuru massage for 91 K COP.

[URL]http://www.bluelifespa.com/Default.aspx[/URL]

I went with Paulina. On whatsapp they said CBJ but she did BBBJ for 20 K tip.

I think they have a room with a cama so try to get that if you can. Otherwise you are on a small massage table.

There were 4 chicas. I liked two of the four in the lineup.

It's a good spot if you are staying in West Poblado and want to avoid traffic.

I enjoyed the experience but it is not for everybody.

That is crazy expensive and the reason that I left Verizon. TMobile is free data and text with $. 25 per min for voice calls. When I'm on WiFi free calls.

Damn I would be paying $300 added to a already expensive Verizon plan. I only pay $70 a month for two phones.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2359590]Okay. Letting you know. This is easier, but not much.

As soon as I land, I turn on my Google Pixel 2 XL with my Verizon Unlimited plan. My phone works immediately. I get 0.5 GB daily of high speed data. Drops to 2 G speed after that. Once per day Verizon texts me to let me know how many free days I have left, or to tell me I'm being charged $10 for the day. No need to switch SIMs, no need to activate a SIM, no need to pay 2 different companies.

It's not cheaper. My Verizon plan is $55/ month. I have an $850 phone and after 5 days in Colombia my International plan costs $10/ day.

However, I get unlimited 4 G data, 75 GB per month of 5 G data and 30 GB of mobile hotspot data in the US. Most importantly I get the Verizon network. The T-Mobile / Metro PCS network is fine, as long as you never leave the city. There are too many gaping holes in the network for me..[/QUOTE]

I myself require BBJ from my Chica's and won't use them if this is not on the menu. A classier way of asking for it is "Oral Natural".

[QUOTE=Talon;2359109]Out of hundreds of friend requests I sent out since late 2017 around 1 in 3 have accepted. I use a fake name but my profile is a clear shot of my face and I have a half dozen selfies of me in front of famous landmarks. I got a backlog of dozens of girls I've promised to meet but haven't yet because I can't possible fuck them all and I already got a huge stable of regulars that I can call upon who I know will perform well for a decent price.

Tinder is more of a crapshoot. So many girls just use it to advertise their Instagram pages (at least you can message them like you would with facebook). I've had more success getting matches when I play up being a sugar daddy--talking about how generous I am, how I like to spoil a girl "who can show me a good time", etc. Once I get a match I move the conversation over to Whatsapp as quickly as I can to evade their censors.

CBJ is a mood killer for me so I always include BBJ in my opening offer, like "150 mil. Chupas sin condon". About half agree immediately. The rest demand more money. I've honestly only had a handful outright refuse to budge and insist condom for everything. And some of them eventually caved and agreed after it was clear I had lost interest in them.

Easy way to mitigate being robbed: limit the amount of cash you have on hand and make them come to you![/QUOTE]

I did the Medellin Walking tour and yes, they do explain what's going on with all the hookers downtown.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2359037]It's mind blowing how many Chicas are out there.

When I am down there and I see the English guided tour groups being escorted thru the area, I wonder if any of the people on the tour ever ask, why are there so many women standing around all over the place. Perhaps the tour guide tells them what's up?

Another thing I can't fathom is how many clients some of these Chicas actually get given that there are so many of them. I see some of the prettier Venezuelans going arriba. But some of them I bet are lucky to snag a customer at all.

I also notice a lot of guys similar in age (Venezuelans) sometimes talking with the girls. I have to assume these are their boyfriends or husbands who they are supporting..[/QUOTE]

I had a couple of girls on my last trip that I would go out drinking and dancing Salsa & Merengue, then head back to my apartment for 2-3 hours of real GFE playtime. Total time around 6 hours. I would give them $200,000 plus $20,000 for taxi. One was like this is a lot of money, for all the fun I had it was dirt cheap. I was at the Mansion one night and had the Chica from 1 am until 6 am, I gave her $200,000 she was happy. There really is no set rule for me, lots of times no prices are discussed and I just pay them what I think is fair. Some girls will want to negotiate the price before hand, which in my experience were some of the worst performers.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358695]What do you consider steep? I speculated the Facebook girl mentioned might be available for 150 k, however when she's talking to a new guy she'll probably ask for 200-300 k. That's now been confirmed.

It's pretty common, any time you're dealing with a freelancer, for her to start at a higher price. At the current rate 300 k is less than $100. This girl could get $300 per hour in the US. Some guy who's never been outside the US before might be thrilled to get her for under $100.

The going rate of 150 k is less than $50.200 k is only about $16 more. Is that too much? Most Facebook girls are fine with staying 2 or 3 hours for 150-200 k. Downtown casas charge about 50 k for 30 minutes.

It comes down to knowing your own preferences. I like to spend some time talking, take a shower together or sit in the jacuzzi for awhile, get in lots of foreplay, spend some time trying to make sure she enjoys herself, work through several positions and then relax together for awhile before grabbing a shower to clean up. With some girls I can stretch that out to 3 hours. While I might be able to do that in a casa, it'll cost me 250-300 k.[/QUOTE]

There are ton's of beautiful women in Venezuela which is probably why they have won the Miss Universe contest so many times.

There are quite a few fat Colombian women out there too and just by looking at them it would be difficult for me to tell if they were from Venezuela unless I talked to them for a bit.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2358290]Well if you don't have a problem with decent looking beached whales, your going to have a field day and the pick of the litter in Medellin with all the fat Venezuelans. In fact, you could easily line up a couple of tag teams to take "arriba" who will do everything your looking for. Sounds like your going to be cream pieing a lot of ladies on your trip! Your my hero, have a good time and report back on your escapades![/QUOTE]

Not all AirBnB's are Chica friendly, do your due diligence!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2358279]Is it a problem bringing chicas back to vacation apartments in Medellin the way it is in Cartagena? Do I need to be looking for a Chica friendly place or am I safe to just find an Airbnb?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2361442]That is crazy expensive and the reason that I left Verizon. TMobile is free data and text with $. 25 per min for voice calls. When I'm on WiFi free calls.

Damn I would be paying $300 added to a already expensive Verizon plan. I only pay $70 a month for two phones.[/QUOTE]You're outside the US 35 days every month? The plan provides 5 days free international roaming per month. After that it's $10 per day ($5 in Mexico and Canada). If you spend the entire month outside the US it would be $230-$260 more.

For someone who travels internationally frequently, there are better options than what I use. For someone who uses lots of data, but seldom leaves the US for long periods, it's a good option.

For someone who travels inside the US frequently, unless they're flying city to city, T-Mobile is almost useless. Driving 75 miles (200-300 if you're in the west) just to get enough of a signal to receive an important email doesn't work for me. Spending 12 hours with zero service doesn't work either. Not to mention having no service at home.

If I go back to spending 3 days every week in Toronto, I'll probably have to make a change, or just use the company phone.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2360639]OK guys, for the frequent posters here, why'all know I've posted my intention of coming to Colombia on this forum. I originally planned for a full 3 months to be split between Colombia, Sao Paulo, & Rio. The bad news is I will have settle for 9 weeks instead. The good news is the trip is still happening! I plan to stay 3 weeks in Colombia.

I'm currently shopping for flight tickets. I found flights from LAX to Bogota to be almost half as much as flights to Sao Paulo. So its obvious from the money side, that I should fly into Bogota. I then will stay one night in Bogota and then fly to Rio the next day. After spending 6 weeks in Brazil, I will fly back to Bogota and stay in Colombia for 3 weeks. Then from Bogota, I will fly back to the states. I know logistically this is doable. How does flight plan seem to you guys? I will have problems with customs in either Brazil or Colombia? That's the only thing I'm worried about.

I know Colombia require travelers from Brazil a yellow vaccination to enter the country, which I already gotten earlier this year, so I should be good from that.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but whilst you've found cheap tickets to Bogota, you'll have to pay for BOG-GIG as well, no? I mean, does the total price difference justify the extra hassle of having a long layover in BOG and paying for a hotel, considering that you're coming back to Colombia for 3 weeks anyway?

Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nf[/URL]

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2360391]Funny, You just described the Mansion Regulars![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2361420]When I visit Medellin which is quite often I will rent a apartment for a month and will check into the Mansion for 2 or 3 nights in the beginning. I always have a great time partying there and grab around 10 -12 phone numbers from the Chicas there. [/QUOTE]Do you (or anyone else) have any intel on the current lineup at The Mansion? I will be staying there next week. Especially interested in A-level girls and chicas who are down for 3 some.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2361320]If you go with PolloNegro whom I have never met, but have seen some of his posts, well you might very well turn into an El Centro street rat! If so, welcome to the club and make sure to go the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 around 4 PM in the afternoon as this is "ground zero".[/QUOTE]I'll take him to the casas and along Veracruz and rudaul, sorry for the misspelling, but we'll be all over centro, I'll take good care of him, I have my list of girls lined up, I'll even share! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2361472]Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nf[/URL][/QUOTE]What is the mansion? Is it more expensive than the other clubs there?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2358688]I will confirm. I made a few tours of El Centro last month.

The lineup on Veracruz and Raudal looked about the same as I remember it from Feb / March of 2018. However, Botero Plaza had a lot of girls hanging around. I'm assuming they were Venezuelan. I'd guess between 30-50 in the early afternoon.

I disagree with your assessment though. There were quite a few fat ones. There were several older ones. There was even one who I'll call "hammerhead", you've probably seen her. But there were also several who looked pretty good to me. I also noticed a few more better looking ones along Veracruz too.[/QUOTE]I toured Centro yesterday and was pleased with what I saw. That said, I belly laughed reading your post because I saw "hammerhead" yesterday. That made me laugh.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2361472]Old mansion girls now models, how are new mansion girls.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/julianitavelez940/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/meligaleano21/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pao.zapata2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/mavel03/?hl=en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/vanesita.gutierrez.3?fref=nf[/URL][/QUOTE]I was referring to the guests, not the chicas!

El Mechanico.

As part of my quest to add new information to the Board, I decided to book through the La Celestina agency.

I found the agency to be very professional. Communication was astounding through the whatsapp service.

The pictures of the model were accurate except she hasd some small tattoos now. She definitely was 21 or 22. I would say in the looks department she was somewhat above what I usually find on Facebook. But I am not down here enough to really cull a strong list.

The service and time went exactly as requested. She also french-kissed which I was not expecting.

So what is the bad news? I paid 350 k which included BBBJ. Listed price is 240 k. Exchange rates are currently 3445 to 1 so cost was a rounded $100. If the 240 k list price included BBBJ I would use the service more often based on this experience. She reminded me of the young Romanian models you find in the Fkks and it was for all intensive purposes, an equilvalent service.

Who might use this service? If you are seeking anonymity, La Celestina might be for you. The bellhop brought her to the room. I was never exposed publically.

This place is a tantra place so sex is not usually on the menu. Search my name for earlier reports on tantra if you do not know the rules. The warning is that there is usually upselling involved. I like to go after a sexual encounter or on a day when I want lay off the viagra.

They advertise on Mileroticos. [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-mandalay/[/URL] It is a nice facility in Floresta.

Anyway I found this chica Irene there who is a total hotty. If you bring a condom rules may be broken for a price. Unfortunately I did not bring one.

This ad will go stale quickly but here are some photos while they last.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/hola-ven-y-disfruta-de-un-buen-masaje-y-libera-todo-ese-estres-del-dia-a-dia/14231338/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2361437]The Colombian people are very proud and whenever I visit I am always respectful of their culture. I many Colombians are wary of the sex tourist due to all the articles that are written about us in their papers. I was in a Cafe there around 3 weeks ago in El Poblado and they had a sign that said "No Sex Tourists". So when you visit have a good time but try to show a little respect.[/QUOTE]Just so you know if a young American monger goes to Colombia he will not be viewed as a sex tourist at all. He will be oogled by most of the girls who he may or may not choose to sample. In Colombia the sex tourist is seen as the old single American male. Apparently some influential Colombians (women and men who themselves may or may not be mongers) do not like mature male foreigners banging their nubile princesses.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2361338]Is this the girl you follow on IG, she could have an profile in both places. This is an "official" profile that says "fashion model" but does not say where she is based. When I google the photos from the fake facebook profile I found this:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/vanessasalasoficial/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's her or some of them are her. I did not click on the profile but even some of the pictures in the photo grid look like a different chica. And don't get the wrong idea about Mexican girls, they are mostly unattractive. If the IG profile appears in my rotation again I will save it and PM it to you. Chicas and scam artists never use logic so if something seems illogical to you or amiss, flee.

Out of curiosity I sent a fb friend request. She or they messaged me back. I asked what part of Medellin is she from? Waiting for answer. Going to tell her she is gorgeous to see how the conversation transpires and when the money question comes up

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2361677]That's her or some of them are her. I did not click on the profile but even some of the pictures in the photo grid look like a different chica. And don't get the wrong idea about Mexican girls, they are mostly unattractive. If the IG profile appears in my rotation again I will save it and PM it to you. Chicas and scam artists never use logic so if something seems illogical to you or amiss, flee.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2361465]You're outside the US 35 days every month? The plan provides 5 days free international roaming per month. After that it's $10 per day ($5 in Mexico and Canada). If you spend the entire month outside the US it would be $230-$260 more.[/QUOTE]Verizon has a monthly international plan starting at $70 for the month.

Assuming you own your device (not on payment plan), Verizon unlocks your phone after 60 days on the service. So as long as you own the phone and have been a Verizon customer more than 60 days, your phone is unlocked automatically.

Just go to any local phone service provider in country and buy some minutes / data.

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2361455]There are ton's of beautiful women in Venezuela which is probably why they have won the Miss Universe contest so many times.

There are quite a few fat Colombian women out there too and just by looking at them it would be difficult for me to tell if they were from Venezuela unless I talked to them for a bit.[/QUOTE]Typically the Venezuelans hang in packs or together, where as the Colombians hang more separately and not so much in groups, especially around the Intersection of Calle 53 & Carrera 53.

So in this area if you see a fat Chica in a group, there's a good chance they will be Venezuelans. And you are correct about there being a lot of Fat Colombians as well, but not so much in the area I mentioned, but alongside the Church, that's the area where the Shemales hang, and just about all of fat ones along that walkway are Colombians.

So for those specifically looking for a fat Colombian or a Transvestie, you know where to go now.

When using facebook:

You can only do this twice but I use Facebook to build up a roster. Currently at over 1000 chicas. And one male who I mentioned in my previous how to build your friends list post. Hes my feeder hahaha. Anyway, right when my plan lands I always post a selfie at the airport letting them all know I'm here. You would be surprised how many chicas come up out of the woodwork. Girls that never liked a photo or responded to a DM, all of sudden send the "Hola como estas" or heart the photo. Especially if it's your story. But here's a trick that worked hahaha. Change your birth date to a day while you are in town! This way you pop up on every chicas wall being announced as it being your birthday. And genuinely party that night as such! It's a simple white lie haha. It's a great conversation starter and usually women love catering to a mans birthday. I had at least 20 birthday inboxes from girls I didn't even know I was friends with and a few more I am "meeting out for a birthday shot" once I get to Medellin. I'm in Cartagena right now having a ball. (pause). But I'm in birthday character and they are eating this crap up. I had a threesome last night and paid 200 k. She basically told her friend it's his birthday. They drank all my bar party alcohol then offered me a 2 for 1. "she quoted since it's your birthday, you take me and my amiga for 1 price". They were both hot enough I would have taken them separately. BTW today's my birthday again if asked hahaha!

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2361683]Going to tell her she is gorgeous [/QUOTE]That is why some poeple pay 150K and others are asked to pay 300K to the same girl. Stop kissing up to hoes! Act like they need you more than you need them.

Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.

Dude, you really should read the original post before jumping in We know it is a scam just want to see how they progress. As far as the girls are concern I never pay over 200 k and that includes extra services. And yes I tell them they are Beautiful. I am going back in a few weeks and have told a few of the girls I am returning. Some of them will stay the night for 200 k and dinner. And yes I tell them they are hermosa bellsima and una princesa

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2361712]That is why some poeple pay 150K and others are asked to pay 300K to the same girl. Stop kissing up to hoes! Act like they need you more than you need them.[/QUOTE].

Si.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2361645]As part of my quest to add new information to the Board, I decided to book through the La Celestina agency.
Who might use this service? If you are seeking anonymity, La Celestina might be for you. The bellhop brought her to the room. I was never exposed publically.[/QUOTE]I can see someone famous or a well known person definitely needing this service. Perhaps you are one of these people, and if so, it's great you found this service.

Anyone know of any love motels that have a mirror on the ceiling or mirrors all around the room?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2361469]Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but whilst you've found cheap tickets to Bogota, you'll have to pay for BOG-GIG as well, no? I mean, does the total price difference justify the extra hassle of having a long layover in BOG and paying for a hotel, considering that you're coming back to Colombia for 3 weeks anyway?[/QUOTE]If I was just going to Brazil, then yes it would be easier to just fly directly into Brazil. But since I am going to spend 3 weeks in Colombia also, I would save considerable amount of money (at least to me) to book my round trip ticket from LAX. BOG. The cheapest round trip ticket from LA to Sao Paulo is around $800, while from LA to Bogota is around $400. A round trip ticket from Bogota to Rio is also around $400 and vice versa. So by flying into Colombia first and stay for 3 weeks, then fly to Brazil, I save about $400. Of course, I would have to fly back into Colombia to catch my return flight back to US. But the saving to me is worth it.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2361586]What is the mansion? Is it more expensive than the other clubs there?[/QUOTE]Don't worry about mansion.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2361568]Do you (or anyone else) have any intel on the current lineup at The Mansion? I will be staying there next week. Especially interested in A-level girls and chicas who are down for 3 some.[/QUOTE]That place is a mess now.

Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.

[QUOTE=Combo;2361794]Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.[/QUOTE]The cheapest is usually Viva Air (used to be Viva Colombia Air) out of Miami, I flew down last year for around $200.

[URL]https://www.vivaair.com/co/en[/URL]

Next is usually Spirit, $300+- out of Fla.

[URL]https://www.spirit.com/[/URL]

Both are super low cost airlines so barebones but only 3.5 hrs from Miami so bearable.

Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.

[QUOTE=Combo;2361794]Just wondering what you guys have found recently for flight prices from the US to MDE, Cali, etc. I'm planning my Winter trips and I usually find the best fares on Copa Airlines. However this year Copa is way more expensive than American and some of the other carriers.[/QUOTE]Depends where you are flying from which you didn't mention. I used to fly COPA exclusively from LAX to MDE thru Bogota, but started finding cheaper flights on Avianca. Since I am a poor guy who fly's business class, I tried Avianca and their planes are better for the red eye flights with seats that go completely flat versus the COPA bullshit business seats.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2361816]Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.[/QUOTE]No need to wait for things to start improving in Venezuela to hook up with them which probably won't be for a long time.

As I have stated in numerous posts, if you go to the Intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro you will find tons of Venezuelans in and around this location. And the good news is that there are actually some pretty and thin one's out there that I have seen within the past week. I have gotten quotes of between 25 K and 30 K from some of them, and one quoted me 30 K for one pop and 50 K for two pops. And the truth is, they will go for less than that if you want to negotiate.

A friend of mine down here pointed out some of them whom he bare-backs as well. So no need to wait for the overthrow of Maduro to partake in the Venezuelan pussy available right here in Medellin and at bargain basement prices.

If you have attempted to pick some of the Venezuelan SW's thus far and have not had any luck, it may be because your selection criteria is too high, and / or your Spanish skills are holding you back. Another words, if you found one SW you liked and had a rough time speaking with her and couldn't close the deal that would make sense versus if you spoke with five SW's and couldn't close the deal. Generally, a lot of the Venezuelans are better educated than the Colombians, and for me there Spanish is easier to understand. Some of them are very sweet, but a lot them are just to fat for me. My friend is having a field day with them, and you can too. My personal preference is for the Colombians though, but that could change very rapidly.

[QUOTE=JumpMan2345;2361739]Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.[/QUOTE]Nervous about which part?

Being in Medellin? Learn a little Spanish, don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine.

Fucking hookers? Then why you doing it LOL.

This hobby ain't worth it if it makes you more stressed, the point of this hobby is to de-stress.

[QUOTE=PseudoGene;2361791]That place is a mess now.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate? I've got reservations there later this month. What kind of mess are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2361816]Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; [/QUOTE]Spend a weekend in Santa Marta. You will be hard pressed to find a Colombian chica there!

El Mechanico.

I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.

The casinos south of the mansion are the big 3 or 4 in Medellin, I'm planning to stay in the vicinity for a week or two.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2361867]Nervous about which part?

Being in Medellin? Learn a little Spanish, don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine.

Fucking hookers? Then why you doing it LOL.

This hobby ain't worth it if it makes you more stressed, the point of this hobby is to de-stress.[/QUOTE]The nervous comment is referring to "traveling alone" especially to an area I've never been to. But thank you for your advice. Not exactly what I was looking for LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2361816]Unlike some mongers on this board I have not been lucky to pick up any Venezuelan street walkers; however, I've had a few in the casas, not as many as I did in my previous trip earlier this year but the few I've had this trip have been my best punts. I am wondering whether other mongers have had a similar experience but I have found even with my limited Spanish that the Venezuelans are much more interesting to talk to than Colombianas.
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting for things to start improving in Venezuela so that I can venture there.[/QUOTE]Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.

I've had very good luck with them. Very easy to bond, having lived once upon a time in Caracas.

My favorita now in Medellin is an 18 year old Venezolana beauty I met a short while back.

Speaking the language obviously is a huge advantage.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2362010]Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.[/QUOTE]I can see how someone if they walked around this area and spoke with nobody would not know what the nationality of all the people are, and perhaps this explains why Turgid hasn't noticed them.

[QUOTE=JumpMan2345;2361993]The nervous comment is referring to "traveling alone" especially to an area I've never been to. But thank you for your advice. Not exactly what I was looking for LOL.[/QUOTE]Weak hands are taken advantage of in this hobby.

Not that their aren't a lot of guys in the hobby that are unsure of themselves, but they get milked hard.

[QUOTE=MillerTime55;2361990]I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.

The casinos south of the mansion are the big 3 or 4 in Medellin, I'm planning to stay in the vicinity for a week or two

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2361987]Spend a weekend in Santa Marta. You will be hard pressed to find a Colombian chica there!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I know this the Medellíand thread, so tell us how many Hot Venezuelan chicas are in Santa Marta compared to all the ugly ones we hear about in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2361753]I can see someone famous or a well known person definitely needing this service. Perhaps you are one of these people, and if so, it's great you found this service.[/QUOTE]No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Floresta and back during rush hour.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362066]No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Flthoresta and back during rush hour.[/QUOTE]Amazing and entertaining how everybody rolls different here. We are lucky to have so many options here besides social media. I've had some luck with Tinder, but in Asia and Europe. I don't bother with it here though, I am a street rat!

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362066]No. Neither rich or famous.

Mostly I am curious. My history on ISG is I always try to add a new place or two whereever I go.

I do know guys concerned with their identity who are upper-management guys from big companies.

I have provided my service. I will now work off a list of six Tinder and Facebook chicas. Hopefully one will be a keeper.

My experience is the chicas I find through services are better looking than ones I find on Facebook. Maybe my luck will be better this year's list. However chicas from services upsell everything so it is definitely more expensive. After 4 experiences in 3 days my average cita is 240 k COP. Probably closer to 247 k if you add in taxi costs. I took a trip from Poblado to Floresta and back during rush hour.[/QUOTE]I don't know man. There are some very hot FB girls. Do you get face pix of the girl with LA Celestina before you book citation? That's my problem with escort agency, face pix is a must.

[QUOTE=MillerTime55;2361990]I'm looking for basic casino info especially related to black jack in Medellin.

I hate to make assumptions but here it goes:

US currency isn't accepted, I must convert to pesos before.

Most or all the small neighborhood casinos are slots or non card games.

Working girls are not allowed in the casino.[/QUOTE]I mainly play at Casino Rio. They have poker. They also have live blackjack. Casino Rio closes at 2 or 3 AM.

I don't like the blackjack set-up in Colombia. The dealer only deals the upcard. They only deal the downcard at the end. The casinos use the auto-shuffling shoe.

They use Colombian pesos in the casinos.

I assume all small neighborhood casinos only have machines. I've only peeked into a couple.

I don't recall ever seeing a working girl at Casino Rio. That place is not a working girl spot. But numerous neighborhood casinos are in the red light district.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2362080]I mainly play at Casino Rio. They have poker. They also have live blackjack. Casino Rio closes at 2 or 3 AM.

I don't like the blackjack set-up in Colombia. The dealer only deals the upcard. They only deal the downcard at the end. The casinos use the auto-shuffling shoe.

They use Colombian pesos in the casinos.

I assume all small neighborhood casinos only have machines. I've only peeked into a couple.

I don't recall ever seeing a working girl at Casino Rio. That place is not a working girl spot. But numerous neighborhood casinos are in the red light district.[/QUOTE]Thanks Greenbud for the info on Casino Rio.

I lived (worked) in Buenos Aires 10 year ago and they also also deal 1 up card.

If I remember correctly most of the players down there played not to take a bust card. Seemed like no one would challenge the dealer unless it was obvious hit.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362043]The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure![/QUOTE]Thanks Surfer500, If you do check out the casinos on Ave Poblado kindly let me / the board your findings.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2362079]I don't know man. There are some very hot FB girls. Do you get face pix of the girl with LA Celestina before you book citation? That's my problem with escort agency, face pix is a must.[/QUOTE]I agree that there are very hot Facebook chicas but in my experience I have not been able to get a meeting with them as of yet. Many chicas that I met last year were using photos two or three years out of date.

This year I am matched on Tinder with chicas in the 25 or 30 year range that have children. I am a fat guy in my late 60's so this could be making a difference. I am not the guy who is going to take them out salsa dancing and then still pay them in the morning. Some of the young Facebooks chicas have friended me. Of those that have friended me I have not pursued yet.

Agency girls all have faces hidden and tattoos photoshopped out.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2361940]Care to elaborate? I've got reservations there later this month. What kind of mess are you talking about?[/QUOTE]They are doing a bunch of renovating so maybe it literally is a mess.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2361815]The cheapest is usually Viva Air (used to be Viva Colombia Air) out of Miami, I flew down last year for around $200.

[URL]https://www.vivaair.com/co/en[/URL]

Next is usually Spirit, $300+- out of Fla.

[URL]https://www.spirit.com/[/URL]

Both are super low cost airlines so barebones but only 3.5 hrs from Miami so bearable.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm flying from Chicago and I generally avoid Spirit and the likes. I've heard too many stories of missed connecting flights and cancelled flights. Must be nice to live in Miami and get direct flights to Colombia, Brasil, etc!

I've always liked Copa and they usually have good prices if you book early, but this year, they are more expensive than just about everyone.

I've been in those casinos. My WG-dar never went off. All play is in Colombian pesos. Yes there are table games. Roulette, blackjack, I can't remember if there is poker.

[QUOTE=MillerTime55;2362118]Thanks Surfer500, If you do check out the casinos on Ave Poblado kindly let me / the board your findings.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2362010]Just go walk about Plaza Botero, and the walk towards Veracruz. I don't know how you could miss the Venecas, they're all over the place.

I've had very good luck with them. Very easy to bond, having lived once upon a time in Caracas.

My favorita now in Medellin is an 18 year old Venezolana beauty I met a short while back.

Speaking the language obviously is a huge advantage.[/QUOTE]When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.

Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.

We met again in the evening, walked around the block, he was hugging girls left and right, and I got to shake a few hands. It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.

[QUOTE=JumpMan2345;2361739]Hi,

Visiting Medellin for a quick first visit on September 9-13. I'm looking for some advice on how to set up contacts prior to visit on FB. I have the Tinder thing down but so many seem fake.

I am traveling solo (nervous about this) but I've been wanting to visit for a while. What are the must do's and don't do's? Does anyone have a local tour guide contact for during the day and also at night that they would mind sharing?

I'm booked at Hotel Du Parc Royal. I'm hoping that's a great spot. Any feedback?

Thank you for any advice / help.

Jumpman.[/QUOTE]I just wrote a detailed post on how to setup a list of Facebook girls. Go back at least 12 pages and start reading posts. You'll find it.

There's several thousand posts here that will help soothe your nerves, plus a few thousand that will terrify you. They can't be any help to you if you don't read them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362041]I can see how someone if they walked around this area and spoke with nobody would not know what the nationality of all the people are, and perhaps this explains why Turgid hasn't noticed them.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's just me, but the Venezuelans stand out. The guys who spend all their time walking the streets in El Centro probably pick up on this easier. The Colombian girls are a natural part of the environment. They blend in.

The Venezuelans don't blend. They're out of place, they don't move smoothly through the plaza. They walk faster and talk louder. At least to me, they seem out of place.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362043]The casinos, at least the small ones I believe just have machines and no table games. I don't know about the casinos on Avenida Poblado you mentioned, you should be able to go to their websites to see what they offer.

Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw Pesos.

Working girls in the Casinos, I don't think so, at least I have never seen a post about guys getting hookers out of the Casinos here.

However, now that you have brought this up, I am going to check out some of the Casinos on Avenida Poblado, maybe take out is available. Or perhaps some of the waitresses for sure![/QUOTE]The El Centro casinos you have to fight your way through the working girls to get inside.

I've talked to a few people who frequent some of the Poblado casinos. At least some have poker and blackjack. One, by the San Diego mall used to have a Sunday evening poker tournament.

[QUOTE=Combo;2362157]Thanks. I'm flying from Chicago and I generally avoid Spirit and the likes. I've heard too many stories of missed connecting flights and cancelled flights. Must be nice to live in Miami and get direct flights to Colombia, Brasil, etc!

I've always liked Copa and they usually have good prices if you book early, but this year, they are more expensive than just about everyone.[/QUOTE]I was happy with AeroMexico out of Chicago to Medellin, but it comes with a 24 hour layover in Mexico City going down and 4 hours coming back. That's a pain unless you want to explore Mexico City. It's also a 1 am departure from MDE.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2362230]Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.[/QUOTE]Can you tell us more about the police whistling girls away. At 8 AM in the mornings there are not a lot of girls out, a few, but more so people walking to work as this is a main passageway to many of the business in the area.

So this was a police round up of a few girls standing around at 8 AM in the morning? Sounds very peculiar indeed unless there was some type of commotion.

You say you wouldn't go to this intersection by yourself. You are aware that the location you described besides being ground zero for the Venies is also right in the middle of the tourist area for Botero Plaza, the Museum, and the Church. Did you notice that there is a very popular yogurt / ice cream stand, a Tazo coffee shop, souvenir shops all no more than 20 meters away from this location. So I don't know what scared you about this exact location during the day, crowds of tourists will be in that area eating emapanadas besides all the Vennies before lunchtime.

Perhaps you should have PN take you around the area, alongside the Church, and the backside around 10 PM at night, things will be very different and something you might not want to do by yourself.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2362042]Weak hands are taken advantage of in this hobby.

Not that their aren't a lot of guys in the hobby that are unsure of themselves, but they get milked hard.[/QUOTE]First of all it's "there not their". Secondly you are missing the point of being nervous so no need to continue down that road, your advice is way off track. You truly shouldn't be responding to this thread anymore.

You seem to be the ultimate wing man.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2362230]Met with Pollo Negro for the first time this morning around 8 AM, we stationed at the museum corner of the intersection of Carrera 52 and Calle 52, something I would not do by myself. PN noticed that police were whistling girls away. Instead of hookers, now it is only him and me at the corner.

We met again in the evening, walked around the block, he was hugging girls left and right, and I got to shake a few hands. It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362242]Maybe it's just me, but the Venezuelans stand out. The guys who spend all their time walking the streets in El Centro probably pick up on this easier. The Colombian girls are a natural part of the environment. They blend in.

The Venezuelans don't blend. They're out of place, they don't move smoothly through the plaza. They walk faster and talk louder. At least to me, they seem out of place.[/QUOTE]Well at least you noticed them, however there are others who couldn't identify them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362173]When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.[/QUOTE]You may not get to visit Caracas for a very long time given the political situation there, so why not go to "Little Caracas" here in Medellin?

Perhaps this sounds a little odd, but like in most major cities in the US there are Chinatowns, Koreatowns, and Little Italy's that exist, so I am going to take the liberty of identifying "Little Caracas" here in Medellin.

Yesterday while in El Centro I was talking with one of my Colombian regulars about all the Venezuelans before doing the deed in the room. She told me that up until approximately a month ago, there had been several fights between the Venezuelans and the Colombians who were beating the Venezuelans up on the backside of the Church with all the bars, etc. According to her, the Venezuelans have been undercutting the Colombians since they started to arrive just over a year ago. As an example, the Venezuelans will go with guys for say 20 K, when the Colombians were getting say 30 K before the Venezuelans showed up. These are not hard price points, but illustrate what has been going on since their arrival.

So according to my regular, approximately a month ago the majority of the Venezuelans moved over to the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 adjacent to Botero Plaza and the Museum, and since then there has been a major reduction in the fighting etc. I was a bit perplexed by this wanting to know who made this happen etc. And asked if the Police had been involved somehow in establishing the area for the Venezuelans and she said no, that the Police only had been breaking up the fights, and nothing more. She also told me that there are still a few Venezuelans on the backside of the Church with the bars, but not many left.

This confirms what I have witnessed in this area over the last month and makes sense. I guess the Venezuelans after getting beat up enough have decided to stay away from the Colombians. And " Little Caracas" exists right in the middle of the tourist area so is much safer for them versus the backside of the Church. However this doesn't address the undercutting going on, which was the source of the problem to begin with. All of the Colombian men, and some of us on this board, know where to find the Venezuelans and it's a buyers market for sure.

I have also noticed a lot more prettier and slim Venezuelans that have shown up in "Little Caracas" in the last few weeks. Maybe word has gotten back to Venezuela that Medellin is a safer / better place to go now than some of the other cities in Colombia, or maybe Maduro is just letting some of the prettier ones out of his country!

So why would someone wait to travel at some indefinite date in the future to Venezuela, when they could partake in "Little Caracas" here in Medellin!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362043]Money I believe is all in Pesos, and I am sure the larger Casinos will gladly exchange USD for Pesos but you will get hosed on the exchange rate. Bring ATM cards to withdraw pesos![/QUOTE]You must be speculating. I've gotten good rates at casinos in this town. Of course, they don't discourage changing your cash as the House expects to end up with it anyway. A general rule of thumb anywhere in the world is to change dollars at a casino.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362340]Can you tell us more about the police whistling girls away.
So this was a police round up of a few girls standing around at 8 AM in the morning? Sounds very peculiar indeed unless there was some type of commotion.
[/QUOTE]It seems the police don't want the girl to stay in one place.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362340]
You say you wouldn't go to this intersection by yourself. [/QUOTE]I mean I won't stand among the chicas there for a whole hour. I have no problem walking around the area but standing among them is something different for me.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2362364]You seem to be the ultimate wing man.[/QUOTE]And got a chance to see a lay of the land. First and foremost, I must give Wolf all the credit, I'm just following in his footsteps. He taught me about being kind and keeping a pocket full of $2 mil bills, it will definitely go a long ways. The girls were pretty and out everywhere! Pollo negro is out!

Hola Senores!

First of all, thank you all for the reports you published, the material you shared. I found everything I needed here. OK, where do I start. Arrived Medellin at 2 pm on the first day, solo traveler. Did all my research but was really scared to step outside of the airport, well that's how it started. But however took a taxi paid 75 mil I guess and headed to San Peters in Laureles. The minute I reached the apartment I already started loving the weather in Medellin. It's gentle breeze not hot not cold, just perfect for me.

On the first day called in a busty photoprepago girl in her 30's I guess. She was very good. Paid like 130 k including taxi for an hour. The best thing about Colombian girls I like is they are very sensual and accommodating. Every other girl I spent time with, I felt the same. I didn't feel the same in other countries I mongered like Thailand, Singapore, Germany, India etc.

Didn't do much other than that on the first day. Second day I took a Uber to El Centro, visited the new life casa. Except couple of girls nothing great about this place, I have seen better. But took a little spinner in her early 20's, Laura. She was clean, cute, smelled good, fucked good etc. , etc. , that's a good start to the day. When I was coming out found another beautiful short girl named Andrea. This girl is super hot GFE material. Had good fun with her for about an hour. It was really inexpensive in my opinion for the quality you get in Medellin. Then came out walked around for sometime, found the Aiffe and other casas on careers 45, there were like two more here. Had lunch at the restaurant at the corner of the street where Newlife is. Luckily the guy over there spoke good English.

After lunch headed to energy masaje which is quite famous for the quality of the girls and service. Took a Uber again. I found a gorgeous Colombian here. Long hair, brown eyes and perfect tits. And service was just too good. Message followed by BJ, sex and we took shower together. The best part here is their service. It's already 7 pm, I am not late night kind of a guy, headed back the apartment to meet a gringo amigo I met at the apartment. We had couple of beers together. LA70 is a party place, there are so many restaurants and bars on LA70. It's a good place to hangout with a girl. I will write more when I find some more time. I went to Guatape with a girl who I met on tinder. So more to come on that.

Chao.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2362364]You seem to be the ultimate wing man.[/QUOTE]Wing child.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2362492]It seems the police don't want the girl to stay in one place.

I mean I won't stand among the chicas there for a whole hour. I have no problem walking around the area but standing among them is something different for me.[/QUOTE]It sounded like you were very frightened being in El Centro in your post, like you were going to shit in your pants.

I wasn't sure that was the case though, thanks for clearing things up.

I have been to the mansion multiple times and I have a trip all booked and they just called and said I got bumped due to construction. So they said I can go to M2, which I really don't want to do or they will refund my money. Problem is, I already spent a lot of money booking the flight and still want to go. Is there a hotel in Parque LLeras that is nice, safe, clean, breakfast and won't give me issues with bringing a girl back?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362340]So I don't know what scared you about this exact location during the day, crowds of tourists will be in that area eating emapanadas besides all the Vennies before lunchtime.[/QUOTE]The tourists will be eating the Vennies! I know what you mean, it's just the wording that is funny.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2361854]No need to wait for things to start improving in Venezuela to hook up with them which probably won't be for a long time.

As I have stated in numerous posts, if you go to the Intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro you will find tons of Venezuelans in and around this location. And the good news is that there are actually some pretty and thin one's out there that I have seen within the past week. I have gotten quotes of between 25 K and 30 K from some of them, and one quoted me 30 K for one pop and 50 K for two pops. And the truth is, they will go for less than that if you want to negotiate.

A friend of mine down here pointed out some of them whom he bare-backs as well. So no need to wait for the overthrow of Maduro to partake in the Venezuelan pussy available right here in Medellin and at bargain basement prices.[/QUOTE]Man,

Choices choices choices. I've only got 3 weeks in Colombia, really wish I had more now. Oh well. I will be flying into Bogota so the first thing I will do is head to SF to checkout the street talent. I will probably stay 3 night and pull girls to bring back to my place. If the street talents are decent and I get good service I will stay a couple more nights. If not, I will head to Cucuta. Same plan in Cucuta as in Bogota. May stay a week or more in Cucuta if I like it. When its time to leave Cucuta, I may have to checkout Medellin, especially if Bogota turns out bad.

I used to go to the Mansion from time to time years ago. It had been a long time since I was there last but I went to the 4th of July party with a friend and was surprised at how much the scene had changed or maybe it's that I have changed.

When I first went to the Mansion years ago there were mostly 6's and 7's with a few 8's. Now there are mostly 5's and 6's and I only saw one 7 in the bunch. There are more women overall but the quality is down.

I talked to an old timer (that seemed to be a regular) while I was there and he told me that prices had gone up to 200 mill to 250 mill for short time. I was stunned. Quality down and prices were up that sucks.

But I found out later prices were the same it was just that the quality was down. Now I'm not going to argue that some guys do get charged at the higher rate but I was qouted 150 mill short time and 300 for TLN same as when I was there 5 years ago.

Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2362590]I used to go to the Mansion from time to time years ago. It had been a long time since I was there last but I went to the 4th of July party with a friend and was surprised at how much the scene had changed or maybe it's that I have changed.

When I first went to the Mansion years ago there were mostly 6's and 7's with a few 8's. Now there are mostly 5's and 6's and I only saw one 7 in the bunch. There are more women overall but the quality is down.

I talked to an old timer (that seemed to be a regular) while I was there and he told me that prices had gone up to 200 mill to 250 mill for short time. I was stunned. Quality down and prices were up that sucks.

But I found out later prices were the same it was just that the quality was down. Now I'm not going to argue that some guys do get charged at the higher rate but I was qouted 150 mill short time and 300 for TLN same as when I was there 5 years ago.

Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.[/QUOTE]All of which begs the question where have the 7's 8's and 9's gone to now. Are they on social media, have regulars or is the prepago ranks shrinking in medellin? I didn't find them at the casas either.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2362364]You seem to be the ultimate wing man.[/QUOTE]That is because PN is an interesting guy. It's not the first day I am here, and I don't have to have sex multiple times a day. There girls are still there.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2362590]
Didn't pull the same night I was there but got the whatsapp of a chick called Dulce and she called me the next day and asked if she could stop by. I asked her how much and she said 200 mill and I said "no" . She was the only chick I met at the Mansion that I liked but she called me I didn't call her. Jajaja.

She quickly dropped the price down to 150 mill and I said OK.

Couple of pics of the chick and this is about as good as it gets based on my last time at the mansion.[/QUOTE]How was the service from this girl?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2362230]It was an interesting experience. He scored two (morning and evening) and I scored none, that is what fluent Spanish and a nice personality can do. Both girls have pretty face and nice body. I like both girls, especially the second one who is a spinner. PN told me to take her but I did not. It is an interesting day.[/QUOTE]Time to learn some basic Spanish before one goes to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2362516]I have been to the mansion multiple times and I have a trip all booked and they just called and said I got bumped due to construction. So they said I can go to M2, which I really don't want to do or they will refund my money. Problem is, I already spent a lot of money booking the flight and still want to go. Is there a hotel in Parque LLeras that is nice, safe, clean, breakfast and won't give me issues with bringing a girl back?[/QUOTE]I am booked there this coming Thursday through Monday. When were your reservations? I haven't been notified about having to change or cancel my booking. Was it your impression that all of the M1 was closed, or just certain rooms?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362173]When I'm on the prowl on the streets for poontang I have no concern for nationality. I choose what interests me, same in casas. I have sessioned a few Venezuelans in casas but not on the streets. If they are ugly I will take no interest and be unconcerned whether they are Venies or not. For me its looks first; the Venies I have sessioned so far have been top notch in looks and service. A future visit to Caracas is definitely in the cards.[/QUOTE]Great strategy, LOL.

Isn't that everyone's game plan?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2362681]Great strategy, LOL.

Isn't that everyone's game plan?[/QUOTE]Not everyone's strategy, at least for me. If a Chica doesn't have at least one of the following attributes I don't go with them, which include in no particular order, being grossly overweight, a deaf and / or deaf mute, or mute, a sacalero (glue sniffer), pregnant, one armed or legged, and mud ugly. I may have missed an attribute here, but these are my selection criteria when prowling for poontang. If they have they don't have at least one of these attributes I will take no interest, and I do not discriminate based on nationality.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2362490]You must be speculating. I've gotten good rates at casinos in this town. Of course, they don't discourage changing your cash as the House expects to end up with it anyway. A general rule of thumb anywhere in the world is to change dollars at a casino.[/QUOTE]I'm not a gambler, except with the Chicas of course, but are you saying that "generally" you get a better exchange rate for USD from a Casino, versus from an ATM.

I know in some Countries, I believe in the Philippines and Thailand you can get a better exchange rate with $ 100 USD notes at some exchange places than ATM's, but these were not Casinos.

If the exchange rates for USD at the Casinos in Medellin are better than ATM's here, I'm going to start exchanging my money at the Casinos, as much as I can, without playing before I get kicked out!

[QUOTE=Lou32;2362137]They are doing a bunch of renovating so maybe it literally is a mess.[/QUOTE]Police raid, no chicas, bar is closed. You still can invite one to your room.

I have been looking for the same for some time. Seems all the decent hotels are going to either block (more than one) chicas or have an additional per chica charge. I'd take one in any decent neighborhood in Medellin. I want a comfortable bed, AC, an in room safe box, reliable high speed wifi and a safe neighborhood preferably Poblado or Laureles. I'd say 3 stars or better with 4 stars being ideal would be perfect for me.

[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2362516]I have been to the mansion multiple times and I have a trip all booked and they just called and said I got bumped due to construction. So they said I can go to M2, which I really don't want to do or they will refund my money. Problem is, I already spent a lot of money booking the flight and still want to go. Is there a hotel in Parque LLeras that is nice, safe, clean, breakfast and won't give me issues with bringing a girl back?[/QUOTE]

Well I thought I posted but must of got drunk and forgot. LOL.

Took World Traveler69 list and hit the casa area of El Centro hard in June. I was able to hook up with another member and we tried to cover most all the casa right in El Centro and to the NE of Avenida Oriental.

Was a real hit and miss this time in Medellin. (June) We headed out on a Sat. Morning and it was a terrible line up everywhere. Guess the ugly chicas don't party on Friday nights. Line ups improved as the afternoon went on.

Weekdays had a much better line up in the casa say after 11:00 am. Prices in June were pretty much up to date on the list. Maybe a few COP higher but nothing big. Casa's seem to very in quality from visit to visit in Medellin anymore.

Huge numbers of Venezuelan girls in all the casa's. Actually only talked to just a hand full of Colombianas. I have had some good times with the girls from next store but normally prefer the attitude of local girls better. Looking forward to my up coming trip to Cali.

I find a couple girls I like, I often do return service and also let them know I spend a lot of time in Colombia often leads to better repeat performances but that trip my young European friend kept me on the go and changing them up a bit. With a smile of course.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362242]Maybe it's just me, but the Venezuelans stand out. The guys who spend all their time walking the streets in El Centro probably pick up on this easier. The Colombian girls are a natural part of the environment. They blend in.

The Venezuelans don't blend. They're out of place, they don't move smoothly through the plaza. They walk faster and talk louder. At least to me, they seem out of place.[/QUOTE]My first visit to Venezuela was in 1975, I remember being absolutely blown away by the women in Caracas. The only comparisons to having been impressed by the beauties to that extent have been on visits to Italy and Argentina. I have never mongered in Caracas but for decades have had it on my bucket list.

Now to turn to comparisons of P$P women and average women in the streets. In Germany, for example, I find that the women who work in FKKs are just as alluring as the attractive women one would see on the streets there. Turning to Medellin I find that the attractive women one sees on the streets are way more attractive than the P$P women. Consequently, in El Centro the women one sees plying their wares in the street walker areas are significantly less attractive than the ordinary women one would see in the shopping centers and the streets surrounding them. As far as I am concerned even the best looking ladies in the casas are no where as striking as the best looking girls one would see in the Centro malls and streets surrounding them or in Poblado.

My disadvantage with respect to the Centro mongers is that I stay in Poblado and go to El Centro only for poontang. I actually treat the street walker areas as one huge open air casa which I may visit during my casa hopping expeditions. If I see anything to my liking on the streets I partake same as in the casas. So far my sessions have been over 90% in the casas.

Just a thought what if, like Germany, the P$P girls in Medellin were as lovely as the gorgeous girls one sees in the malls in Poblado? What a destination this would be!

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2362660]Time to learn some basic Spanish before one goes to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I know more than basic. It is understanding the speaker that is difficult.

Like I said, PN is a very interesting person. He is kind enough to share and I learned a lot from him. The girls are there everyday, and I can stay in Medellin as long as I want, I don't feel the urgency that I have to fuck more than 1 girl a day just because it is cheap.

In a way, I am more interested in meeting new friend like him. I also like to meet Wolf when I have a chance after hearing so much good thing about him from PN.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362806]Now to turn to comparisons of P$P women and average women in the streets. Medellin I find that the attractive women one sees on the streets are way more attractive than the P$P women. Consequently, in El Centro the women one sees plying their wares in the street walker areas are significantly less attractive than the ordinary women one would see in the shopping centers and the streets surrounding them. As far as I am concerned even the best looking ladies in the casas are no where as striking as the best looking girls one would see in the Centro malls and streets surrounding them or in Poblado.
![/QUOTE]Yep, but no mystery there. There's only so many top quality girls to go around, and the best ones get snapped up. The ones that don't get a guy to take care of them end up in the public domain selling it to get by.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2362831]Yep, but no mystery there. There's only so many top quality girls to go around, and the best ones get snapped up. The ones that don't get a guy to take care of them end up in the public domain selling it to get by.[/QUOTE]Not just that, but they are not dolled up. When you see a street chick, you usually find her the way she would be at home or something. She is not going to have on snazzy boots and her hair done all fresh. Remember the movie Trading Places? Some guys can see through that and realize how the street girl would look in the top quality chick's place and how the top quality chick would look in the street girl's place. If they were switched then you would have the same opinion about the opposite girl. Same damn thing was in Rio. Some guys didn't like the chicks at Vila Mimosa. But when they got off at VM and got dressed up to go Help, many guys would then label the same damn chicks top quality. Don't be fooled by flashy.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2362785]I have been looking for the same for some time. Seems all the decent hotels are going to either block (more than one) chicas or have an additional per chica charge. I'd take one in any decent neighborhood in Medellin. I want a comfortable bed, AC, an in room safe box, reliable high speed wifi and a safe neighborhood preferably Poblado or Laureles. I'd say 3 stars or better with 4 stars being ideal would be perfect for me.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong. Mansion is kinda unique because there is girls right there that you can take to your room. I never heard any other hotel that is like that.

Wise words of experience.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362849]Not just that, but they are not dolled up. When you see a street chick, you usually find her the way she would be at home or something. She is not going to have on snazzy boots and her hair done all fresh. Remember the movie Trading Places? Some guys can see through that and realize how the street girl would look in the top quality chick's place and how the top quality chick would look in the street girl's place. If they were switched then you would have the same opinion about the opposite girl. Same damn thing was in Rio. Some guys didn't like the chicks at Vila Mimosa. But when they got off at VM and got dressed up to go Help, many guys would then label the same damn chicks top quality. Don't be fooled by flashy.[/QUOTE]

They will probably be back after a while like they have in past after raids. I guess on site girls are not the attraction if guys stay there anyway. I can understand why the explanation of renovations would be floated.

[QUOTE=PseudoGene;2362769]Police raid, no chicas, bar is closed. You still can invite one to your room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362849]Not just that, but they are not dolled up. When you see a street chick, you usually find her the way she would be at home or something. She is not going to have on snazzy boots and her hair done all fresh. Remember the movie Trading Places? Some guys can see through that and realize how the street girl would look in the top quality chick's place and how the top quality chick would look in the street girl's place. If they were switched then you would have the same opinion about the opposite girl...when they got off at VM and got dressed up to go Help, many guys would then label the same damn chicks top quality. Don't be fooled by flashy.[/QUOTE]You've got fixated on surface appearances. Any time you see something that may initially look good skin-deep and made-up, but is selling it, then you can be sure there's guys out there that got tired of #cuking her. The best quality don't even get into play for pay for foreigners and sex tourists.

August 22nd, 2019.

I arrived at Rio Negro Airport at 2 pm Medellin time and took the bus to Centro and I can tell you this, there were so many gringo's in the immigration line that it took me about an hour and a half to clear customs. No more filling out custom papers unless you bring vegetables and more than $10,000 USD. So don't be surprised if you see an influx of gringos in Poblado, because that's where I heard them say that they would be staying. I arrived at my room and everything I requested was already in my room so I unpacked and called a friend and she was there within 15 minutes. She's about 4'7" tall with a 42" butt. She's from centro and I have been seeing her about 2 yrs now, so we have a plan worked out. She is available and depending on your budget and likes, she is available, I cannot see all of the girls everyday and most of them need to see clients daily to make ends meet.

About an hour later, I walked down to Parque Botero to see the talent through the park and my oh my, the talent was lovely and many girls were out, so I grabbed a few girls and took them back to my room and session with them for the SW centro price, about $120,000 pesos for short time. They were both Venezuelan and seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did so took their numbers and now these two cuties are now on my daily to every other day rotation. It was about 8 pm now so I went back to the Park, because I had not made my way around to Vera Cruz or Raudal. So was making rounds and taking notes, because I have some specific ladies that I like, I like them extra tall, extra short, extra big butt, or completely different, like the new dark chocolate chic that I met in parque Botero. I was just walking around and making it known to a few friends that I was in town. So after walking around and making it known that I was in town, I decided to sit for a small moment and observe all of the talent in the area and who was who and who was doing what. I found a new Vennie that is an even 6 foot. She gave me a great rate, so off to the room I took her and the session we had was great, so I have now put her into my rotation for daily or every other day.

I ended my day by walking all over Centro until I had walked about 7.5 miles, not bad and I didn't arrive in Centro until about 4:15 pm Thursday, so far so good and things look like they can only get better. I want let my guard down, and I am paying attention to everything and everyone I encounter. I have an entire month to be here so my goal is to learn as much about Centro as I possibly can, get in some much needed studying and to exercise at a rate of 10 miles a day. Let's see how all works out. Pollo Negro is out!

Friday August 23rd, 2019.

I had a dental appointment at 1:00 pm, so I started to monger early, like at 6:30 am, which it is day light and lit already. Great thing that I did come so early, I began to exercise and take a look at all of the talent that was lining up to come and take their position in the park. I walked and made conversation and asked a few names and talked to a few girls and kept exercising and running my walking numbers up, but paying attention to everyone in the park. Many Vennies come out early to try and earn as much money as possible to help pay rent while her in Medellin, this is what I have heard from many of the vennies in Centro and otherwise why would you be out this early? I saw a fairly white crew of Vennies, a Caramel crew of Vennies, and the tall dark skinned vinnies with the braids that always hang together and that throws me off, so I never ask them anything because I hate to see too many girls in a group, it's the reason I don't like sessions in the casa's it too organized and the management, just my choice. There was a little caramel Vennie that kept smiling at me so introduced myself and we talked for a minute. I walked through Veracruz and when I came back I saw this very small chocolate chic, that I had seen on previous trips, but I never had time to engage with her, well this time she had some freshly done braids, clean beautiful white teeth, and a body that was screaming to have a session. She gave me a rate and off to my room we went. This girl was great, few if any stretch marks and a very small cesarean section scar that I didn't even notice until after our 3rd session. I was amazed that she had 3 kids, she said. She is now on my daily to do list, period. She is about 4'10" and about 100 lbs even and she rides CG with minimal effort and does and outstanding job. Her K-9 is a bit touchy, meaning if you're big down stairs she will scream a little bit, I had to ask her to shhhhhh a little bit as I didn't want the housekeeping to know what I was doing so early in the morning, LOL. After our first session I was hooked and her price is one I can afford daily. I went back to Parque Botero to meet up with Nounce.

Me and Nounce walked around and stood around the park and witnessed the cops making the girls move from one location to another, I have no idea why, but they were blowing their whistles like crazy for the girls to relocate, like every 15 minutes. I explained to Nounce how the parque works and all of the tricks I have learned by making so many trips to MDE in such a short time. Nounce is very professional and reserved, very observant and picks his girls at his own rate. I gave him some sensible advice about long term relationships, non working girls, and how the culture of Medellin differs from the USA We kept moving as I needed to run my number of steps up to keep my exercise routine in order. We walked all over Centro, I found Western Union and found out that I can receive money from the US with my passport, I used xoom on my last trip and found out that they would not allow you to retrieve money with a US Passport, so I had some family send me small amounts of money to see that the money was allowed to be retrieved by me and it was. It's a small process, like a 30-45 minute wait, but when you have 30 days to be here, it doesn't bother you that much. Nounce and I retrieved my money and we were off walking again, back to parque Botero to sit and observe. We saw girls come and go and few who were actually receiving Citas, not many, but many of the girls were out flocking their feathers and showing what they had to offer.

Here's another tip, one that you must pay close attention to because Nounce asked me about it and I had to make him aware that I was sure of many of the girls age. I reminded him, with the police presence so high in the park right now, if the girl not have a cedula, she wouldn't be around the church or standing near the police. The police ask these girls to show their cedulas and passports often, as I saw the police checking them many times while I was sitting in the park. Don't be shy to talk to the girls just because they look young, many of them are 18 yrs old and doing what they can to help the family. I even showed Nounce a family of Vennies, where the mother, and two older daughters were working as a team, they all looked alike. I assured him that the girl was 18, even though she looks young, otherwise the cops would have made her leave the area. Shortly after to cops came over and she was able to provide proof that she was 18 yrs old. My history of looking at girls in the park, is this, they won't hang around if they think that they are going to get into trouble. Nounce and I spent about 2.5 hours in the park, looking and walking around running up walking numbers for my exercise. I left because I had a dental appointment, but as I arrived at my room, my 18 yr old friend from Vera Cruz was at the room waiting for me and said she saw me walking around the park and needed make her rent money so she sessioned with me for a great rate so I had fun with her before my appointment. I told Nounc e that I did not know how long my appointment would be as I had to have two root canals and a tooth repaired and I didn't know how long that would take. I promised to call him as soon as I was out of the dentist appointment and we would go back out mongering again. So far, so good, Pollo Negro is out!

I can recommend this place. Cost is 110 k an hour which includes BBBJ. It is located about 500 meters from Energy.

The drawback is that you have to preselect your chica from a photo. There is no physical lineup.

I went with Carlota who should be able to satisfy anybody who is not a breast man. Breast men look elsewhere.

Nikol is located near the Laureles Exito. She is in her early thirties. She is kind of nutty but she can deepthroat.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-nikol/[/URL]

I paid 160 COP for an hour which included the upsell of the deepthroat.

The shower only had cold water. Brrrr.

And in Tijuana some of the baddest chicks are independent street girls. Either they don't want to kiss clients and make rules or they like their autonomy if they are pimp free. Diamonds in the rough can be found in the humbler venues. About 3% of the bar girls were previously street girls. If you traced their lineage to their hometown it would be higher.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362849]Not just that, but they are not dolled up. When you see a street chick, you usually find her the way she would be at home or something. She is not going to have on snazzy boots and her hair done all fresh. Remember the movie Trading Places? Some guys can see through that and realize how the street girl would look in the top quality chick's place and how the top quality chick would look in the street girl's place. If they were switched then you would have the same opinion about the opposite girl. Same damn thing was in Rio. Some guys didn't like the chicks at Vila Mimosa. But when they got off at VM and got dressed up to go Help, many guys would then label the same damn chicks top quality. Don't be fooled by flashy.[/QUOTE]

I could overlook / work with the disproportionate bolt ONS but the cold shower is a hard no.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362933]Nikol is located near the Laureles Exito. She is in her early thirties. She is kind of nutty but she can deepthroat.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-nikol/[/URL]

I paid 160 COP for an hour which included the upsell of the deepthroat.

The shower only had cold water. Brrrr.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2362605]How was the service from this girl?[/QUOTE]Better than average overall but typical for a mansion chick. Kisses well and uncovered blow job. Stayed about 3 hours and smoked weed. I had better things to do so I didn't repeat but I can see someone keeping her around awhile as she is better than average in bed and is a nice chick to hang with.

The place is really under the radar isn't it? The website doesn't even list the address. I'll call the next time I'm out on la 70, probably this weekend.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362925]I can recommend this place. Cost is 110 k an hour which includes BBBJ. It is located about 500 meters from Energy.

The drawback is that you have to preselect your chica from a photo. There is no physical lineup.

I went with Carlota who should be able to satisfy anybody who is not a breast man. Breast men look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anukris;2362504]Hola Senores!

First of all, thank you all for the reports you published, the material you shared. I found everything I needed here. OK, where do I start. Arrived Medellin at 2 pm on the first day, solo traveler. Did all my research but was really scared to step outside of the airport, well that's how it started. But however took a taxi paid 75 mil I guess and headed to San Peters in Laureles. The minute I reached the apartment I already started loving the weather in Medellin. It's gentle breeze not hot not cold, just perfect for me.

On the first day called in a busty photoprepago girl in her 30's I guess. She was very good. Paid like 130 k including taxi for an hour. The best thing about Colombian girls I like is they are very sensual and accommodating. Every other girl I spent time with, I felt the same. I didn't feel the same in other countries I mongered like Thailand, Singapore, Germany, India etc.[/QUOTE]Question from a rookie on the international scene. How would you rank the countries you've been to in regards to cost and quality? I've only been to Thailand and I'm curious how other countries rank. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2362714]Not everyone's strategy, at least for me. If a Chica doesn't have at least one of the following attributes I don't go with them, which include in no particular order, being grossly overweight, a deaf and / or deaf mute, or mute, a sacalero (glue sniffer), pregnant, one armed or legged, and mud ugly. I may have missed an attribute here, but these are my selection criteria when prowling for poontang. If they have they don't have at least one of these attributes I will take no interest, and I do not discriminate based on nationality.[/QUOTE]I think you missed having Balsa wood teeth, a rare foot disease, a third nipple.....and a mustache !

Friday August 23rd, 2019 –Part 2.

I returned from the dentist and let me tell you, I am in for more than I bargained for, but I am here in Medellin now for the next 27-28 days. Found out that I have 5 Doctors working on my mouth versus only one. I had to get some panoramic Xrays and compared to the amount I was charged for 2 root canals and a tooth repair, the panoramic Xray was expensive in comparison. I paid $369,000 pesos for 2 root canals and a repaired tooth. The panoramic Xray alone was $400,000 pesos, not expensive per se, but expensive in comparison. I also found out that it would take the 5 doctors to repair all of my teeth and leave me with a Hollywood smile, but it is very necessary for my line of work. Long story short, 2 root canals and a repaired tooth took about 3. 5 hours so, around 5 pm, I was back in Centro and I called Nounce to see if he wanted to go to parque Botero and check out the talent.

I was back in Parque Botero and shortly thereafter Nounce showed up. We sat on the bench and just check out the talent. There was a really pretty Vennie that was walking around and Nounce told me he kind of liked her look, so I went over and I asked her how much for rato? And she replied for both? And I said, Yes? She replied 250 mil, so I told her no thank you, as I was really just feeling her out. Truth is she was very pretty and Nounce was really trying to get the lay of the land. So we walked around to Vera Cruz to keep my walking count up and sure enough, I ran into many girls that I had already sessioned and knew personally, they were all hugging me and kissing on me, and then out of nowhere, the pretty 18 yr old shows up and hugs me and ask me can we session right now, I replied that I was with a friend but there was no way that I was going to miss this hottie, so I told her that I wanted her to show up to my room at 9 pm for a low down dirty session. She smiled and said, the she will be there.

Nounce and I walked back around to Parque Botero and sat on the bench to check out the talent and many pretty Vennies were walking through and whistling at us, then, the one Vennie I had missed last trip pops up and I told Nounce, I have to session with her, she's about 6 foot 1 that's taller than me and she seemed friendly. I walked up to her, introduced myself and told her that I wanted to session with her, she gave me rate for rato and I told her, that tomorrow, around noon I'll be back in the park to session with her and she agreed. Nounce and I sat around and for about an hour more checking out the talent and liking what we were seeing. It was getting close to 9 pm and I didn't want to miss the 18 yr old, so Nounce and I parted ways and agreed to meet up early the next day before his flight left. I returned to my room, showered and shortly after the 18 yr old showed up and she was a fire cracker in the bed. Over all, my first 2 days back in Medellin and I had sessioned 8 chics and spent the minimal. The influx of Vennies has been great and I hope they keep coming. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2361645]As part of my quest to add new information to the Board, I decided to book through the La Celestina agency.

I found the agency to be very professional. Communication was astounding through the whatsapp service.

The pictures of the model were accurate except she hasd some small tattoos now. She definitely was 21 or 22. I would say in the looks department she was somewhat above what I usually find on Facebook. But I am not down here enough to really cull a strong list.

The service and time went exactly as requested. She also french-kissed which I was not expecting.

So what is the bad news? I paid 350 k which included BBBJ. Listed price is 240 k. Exchange rates are currently 3445 to 1 so cost was a rounded $100. If the 240 k list price included BBBJ I would use the service more often based on this experience. She reminded me of the young Romanian models you find in the Fkks and it was for all intensive purposes, an equilvalent service.

Who might use this service? If you are seeking anonymity, La Celestina might be for you. The bellhop brought her to the room. I was never exposed publically.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding everybody why they should not bother with that ripoff agency.

I had some experience with them a while back. They baited and switched me and upped the quoted price, so I sent her packing. Didn't cost me a penny. She kept asking for taxi money, I declined and told her to hit the road.

If anybody wants anonymity, don't travel to a 3rd world country to fuck working girls.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2362597]All of which begs the question where have the 7's 8's and 9's gone to now. Are they on social media, have regulars or is the prepago ranks shrinking in medellin? I didn't find them at the casas either.[/QUOTE]Well there are certainly more better looking chicks selling their asses on facebook than are currently working at the Mansion. It isn't just the Mansion chicks that are of lower quality but also the Mansion clientele. The casas are disgusting right now. Went to Energy 3 times over the last few months and walked out all three times.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2362963]Friday August 23rd, 2019 Part 2.

I returned from the dentist and let me tell you, I am in for more than I bargained for, but I am here in Medellin now for the next 27-28 days. Found out that I have 5 Doctors working on my mouth versus only one. I had to get some panoramic Xrays and compared to the amount I was charged for 2 root canals and a tooth repair, the panoramic Xray was expensive in comparison. I paid $369,000 pesos for 2 root canals and a repaired tooth. The panoramic Xray alone was $400,000 pesos, not expensive per se, but expensive in comparison. I also found out that it would take the 5 doctors to repair all of my teeth and leave me with a Hollywood smile, but it is very necessary for my line of work. Long story short, 2 root canals and a repaired tooth took about 3. 5 hours so, around 5 pm, I was back in Centro and I called Nounce to see if he wanted to go to parque Botero and check out the talent.[/QUOTE]PN,

Does your dentist speak English? I'm looking for couple reference for dentist but my Spanish is really bad. So, I need one that speak English. Don't want them to pull / fix the wrong tooth because of mistranslation LOL.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2363031]Well there are certainly more better looking chicks selling their asses on facebook than are currently working at the Mansion. It isn't just the Mansion chicks that are of lower quality but also the Mansion clientele. The casas are disgusting right now. Went to Energy 3 times over the last few months and walked out all three times.[/QUOTE]I started pursuing our hobby in Colombia in 2004, back then until roughly 8 years ago a monger could have banged the hottest working girls on the planet here. Not any more. Also back then there were many Caucasian Colombianas to be found in the casas. Not any more. Times change and we must adjust to suit. I still enjoy mongering in Colombia.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362925]I can recommend this place. Cost is 110 k an hour which includes BBBJ. It is located about 500 meters from Energy.

The drawback is that you have to preselect your chica from a photo. There is no physical lineup.

I went with Carlota who should be able to satisfy anybody who is not a breast man. Breast men look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]My trip is in mid October and my dick is tingling with excitement. I hit up this place on whatsapp to scope out the details. Quoted for 190 Mil Incall for an hour including chupa sin condom and anal. I can do this shit all day.

I tried to get info on the San Andrés thread but no luck. I want to take a trip for a few days from Medellin to San Andrés. My question is if anyone has made the trip of late and if so how was the seaweed sargassum there? I was in Cancun last year and the beaches and shore line were covered. It is difficult to find current information on this and hoping someone here can help? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2363130]PN,

Does your dentist speak English? I'm looking for couple reference for dentist but my Spanish is really bad. So, I need one that speak English. Don't want them to pull / fix the wrong tooth because of mistranslation LOL.[/QUOTE]Does away with that problem. You can always contact me while you're here & I'll translate for you! Pollo negro is out!

This is my second trip. Planning started a few months back with getting tickets and cultivating FB chicas. I decided to do away with Mansion and stick with airbnb and hotels. Also, I felt Laureles had some mongering scene and is more convenient than poblado area for trips to centro.

Unfortunately, lack of Spanish keeps hampering my trip. Here is the trip story- Landed at the airport in the afternoon but took the white taxi, did not remember that they don't go to the city. The guy dropped me at main estancion bus station. I had to take another yellow one from there to Laureles. Also, evening traffic is horrible.

Check in was a hassle at San Peter. The guy managing the apartments here keeps moving guests like chess pieces and tries to accommodate owners (mostly expatriates own these apartments) requests. While I reached out for a reservation a month back I got bumped 3 times and finally got a smaller apartment than what was promised. Check in took an hour and half, since I wanted to change apartments, one I was in did not have working AC. By the time they fixed some issues it was already 7. After the unpleasant check in I started with an FB chica I had been speaking most frequently. She had even send me small video of her self masturbating. Bad luck kept following, she looks more fat than in the pics and was on her period, I only realized after I put it in. Fuck me!

After paying her, I turned my phone on and lo behold, it was bricked since I did not register last time. I went to cell phone store and bought a new phone but the cheap phone ($70) would not work. It did not load essential apps like uber FB etc.

The Saturday went to return it but the shop guy would not take it. There is no return- All sales are final. Frustrated I ran to a big electronics store in Poblado and bought a new phone. I gave the shitty one to a chica I met last time and she came to meet on the night. She put on more than a few pounds but she is GFE. Started by going to new life on Sunday afternoon, line was less than 8 and no one looked more than 7. I sessioned a flaca paisa, it was standard, I was happy at least the girl was not on her period. I tried to check out the lineup at Alfie and Divini but they were closed. Also Divini, the one close to new life seems to have moved, there is no door bell.

I also strolled around plaza Botero. I saw a few walkers but did not approach since there was no body that caught my eye. Also I do not speak language, and have to use translate. I have not yet visited the strip clubs here (conejitas, Bar M etc.). Either they were closed on Sunday afternoon or I did not find the entrance.

I also did the football match on Sunday, I picked DIM team over AN and wore the red, They got thrashed 5-2 by AN. Shitty luck but I enjoyed it.

Not being in Mansion for a newbie is somewhat being out of comfort zone. You need to plan and still you may not have things go as well as you wanted them to. I will update on the rest of the trip soon.

This is my second trip. Planning started a few months back with getting tickets and cultivating FB chicas. I decided to do away with Mansion and stick with airbnb and hotels. Also, I felt Laureles had some mongering scene and is more convenient than Poblado area for trips to centro.

Unfortunately, lack of Spanish keeps hampering my trip. Here is the trip story- Landed at the airport in the afternoon but took the white taxi, did not remember that they don't go to the city. The guy dropped me at main estancion bus station. I had to take another yellow one from there to Laureles. Also, evening traffic is horrible.

Check in was a hassle at San Peter. The guy managing the apartments here keeps moving guests like chess pieces and tries to accommodate owners (mostly expatriates own these apartments) requests. While I reached out for a reservation a month back I got bumped 3 times and finally got a smaller apartment than what was promised. Check in took an hour and half, since I wanted to change apartments, one I was in did not have working AC. By the time they fixed some issues it was already 7. After the unpleasant check in I started with an FB chica I had been speaking most frequently. She had even send me small video of her self masturbating. Bad luck kept following, she looks more fat than in the pics and was on her period, I only realized after I put it in. Fuck me!

After paying her, I turned my phone on and lo behold, it was bricked since I did not register last time. I went to cell phone store and bought a new phone but the cheap phone ($70) would not work. It did not load essential apps like uber FB etc.

The Saturday went to return it but the shop guy would not take it. There is no return- All sales are final. Frustrated I ran to a big electronics store in Poblado and bought a new phone. I gave the shitty one to a chica I met last time and she came to meet on the night. She put on more than a few pounds but she is GFE. Started by going to new life on Sunday afternoon, line was less than 8 and no one looked more than 7. I sessioned a flaca paisa, it was standard, I was happy at least the girl was not on her period. I tried to check out the lineup at Alfie and Divini but they were closed. Also Divini, the one close to new life seems to have moved, there is no door bell.

I also strolled around plaza botero. I saw a few walkers but did not approach since there was no body that caught my eye. Also I do not speak language, and have to use translate. I have not yet visited the strip clubs here (conejitas, Bar M etc.). Either they were closed on Sunday afternoon or I did not find the entrance.

I also did the football match on Sunday, I picked DIM team over AN and wore the red, They got thrashed 5-2 by AN. Shitty luck but I enjoyed it.

Not being in Mansion for a newbie is somewhat being out of comfort zone. You need to plan and still you may not have things go as well as you wanted them to. I will update on the rest of the trip soon.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2363269]Does away with that problem. You can always contact me while you're here & I'll translate for you! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I appreciate that but I won't be there for another month or so. I guess I can try with Google translate.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2351482]I applied for Global Entry in March and my app is still pending![/QUOTE]You may be able to get approved faster by researching appointment times out of your area and flying in to that airport location. It is a shame the services we pay for are not available to taxpayers. Keep checking for cancellations.

I got lucky, immediate conditional approval and an interview appointment within 5 days. Then full approval in 12 days from application. Blizzard conditions in my area helped getting a quick interview appointment. Several cancellations.

Best.

Guido88.

Hey guys,

So are there any established options for trying to find some early morning action? Being an early-bird, I can't imagine not waking up there early between 6 am to 9 am. Aside from keeping a girl for TLN to smash away the morning wood, are there some venues where I can call or go to find a hoe at those early hours? Basically, I want to cover all aspects of the day. Casa's start their day around 9-10 am from what I've been reading, but anywhere I can find some early morning anal would be appreciated.

Hi, comrades.

I have been lived in Spain for many years. I could speak fluent Spanish. But I have never been to Latin America yet.

Europe is all going downhill, and if we consider the price by time (hourly), it is still expensive and can't find "real satisfied" as for example: we had in Asia before-everything easy and not so pricey, stunners to give Dongguan level service or "real" GFE in Thai, Viet for "little" money. Cheap for living, transport, restaurants, etc. I went to Asia many times. But nowadays it is generally not as good as before. Spoiled.

After some researches, I founded Colombia may be one of the best country for mongering in all Latin America. Better than Mexico, Cuba, or even Brazil, from what I have read. As well it is the neighbour of Venezuela, the ladies in both countries are very hot and are two countries which offer more providers.

I have quiet some very good experiences with Colombian or Venezuelan girls in Spain for casas and ALL counted by hour. They are more sweet, sexy, sensual and many times much more beautiful than Spanish girls and of course better than many FKK ladies. Well some Spanish girls are stunners, very warm and good educated with good service but very difficult to have 1 or 2 in 1 year by all brothels in Madrid. And I can't have her for 6--8 hours.

Even I had been in Athens, yes you can pay 20 euros or 50 euros to have lucky to got a 8's or 9's but what's more? 10--20 minutes mechanical sex without kissing, BBBJ, sweet talking, and feeling?

Well, not all of them, but generally I prefer to choose Southern American girls if I like to monger in Spain. They also offer better price with better performance.

So I really eager to plan for a Colombia trip next year for 3--4 weeks to have my first adventure in Latin America. And I was shocked there are so many useful info in ISG even lists, maps, advices, etc. Just can't decide where and which I should choose.

I say: for "western bodystyle / looking girl" I had many "hours"(0.5,1 mostly, rarely 2 hours) with them but in Colombia could have nights or even days with a "not proud but cute, innocent or passionate" beauty. And got more change to not have a "profesional GFE service" experience. And I can only speak Spanish quiet good as a foreign language. Not Thai, Vietnamese, Greek or German.

Most important, with a good price. As the price differences between a pretty Thai, Viet lady (especially some years ago) and a Japanese lady (In Japan even you got money you don't know where and how to find stunners for hobby, only in pornos LOL).

Thanks so much in advance, maybe I said some words wrong, but they are my real words.

Kurisu.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2363031] The casas are disgusting right now. Went to Energy 3 times over the last few months and walked out all three times.[/QUOTE]Guess it's not just me. I went twice, two weeks apart, and left without seeing a girl I would rate above a 6. Out of shape low quality girls.

There were English speaking groups both times I stopped by and they seemed to think the selection was adequate but I think they were newer to the game and intended to choose a girl no matter what.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2363293]I also strolled around plaza botero. I saw a few walkers but did not approach since there was no body that caught my eye. Also I do not speak language, and have to use translate. I have not yet visited the strip clubs here (conejitas, Bar M etc.). Either they were closed on Sunday afternoon or I did not find the entrance..[/QUOTE]If you walked out of the Botero Museum and went left to the street, Conejitas is across the street on the corner under the bunny sign in the multi-story building, all three clubs do open Sunday afternoon. The other 2 are basically side by side a few blocks to the right down the street behind the Hotel Nutirbarra, on the left.

I went there on my first trip in 2017 expecting great things and thought the lineup was ho-hum, mostly average looking. I went with the prettiest, a petite 7 who had implants. She wasn't very affectionate and had the terrible habit of constantly changing her technique, even after I told her to stick with what I liked. Took way longer than it should to nut with her. Came back a second time days later. Different girls, same average looks. Again took the prettiest. Again no affection and she constantly tried to rush things so the session would end quickly for her. Couldn't finish at all that time. After that and similarly mediocre casa experiences I concentrated on finding more Facebook friends.

I do give them one credit; their rooms were the nicest I've seen of any casa, with actual hot water in their showers.

I told ya'll MDE is lost. Thanks to all the stupid sex tourist paying way too much. Why would a hot girl work at a casa and get only half of what the house charges when she can get more from a stupid tourist.

[QUOTE=Talon;2363355]I went there on my first trip in 2017 expecting great things and thought the lineup was ho-hum, mostly average looking. I went with the prettiest, a petite 7 who had implants. She wasn't very affectionate and had the terrible habit of constantly changing her technique, even after I told her to stick with what I liked. Took way longer than it should to nut with her. Came back a second time days later. Different girls, same average looks. Again took the prettiest. Again no affection and she constantly tried to rush things so the session would end quickly for her. Couldn't finish at all that time. After that and similarly mediocre casa experiences I concentrated on finding more Facebook friends.

I do give them one credit; their rooms were the nicest I've seen of any casa, with actual hot water in their showers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2363361]I told ya'll MDE is lost. Thanks to all the stupid sex tourist paying way too much. Why would a hot girl work at a casa and get only half of what the house charges when she can get more from a stupid tourist.[/QUOTE]Just go to Bogota. It's cold there, but at least there's tons of options.

Veracruz / Plaza Botero.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363305]Hey guys,

So are there any established options for trying to find some early morning action? Being an early-bird, I can't imagine not waking up there early between 6 am to 9 am. Aside from keeping a girl for TLN to smash away the morning wood, are there some venues where I can call or go to find a hoe at those early hours? Basically, I want to cover all aspects of the day. Casa's start their day around 9-10 am from what I've been reading, but anywhere I can find some early morning anal would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363305]Hey guys,

So are there any established options for trying to find some early morning action? Being an early-bird, I can't imagine not waking up there early between 6 am to 9 am. Aside from keeping a girl for TLN to smash away the morning wood, are there some venues where I can call or go to find a hoe at those early hours? Basically, I want to cover all aspects of the day. Casa's start their day around 9-10 am from what I've been reading, but anywhere I can find some early morning anal would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your posts are entertaining given some of the things you are looking for and things you want to do in Medellin. I think you once mentioned bringing flash cards in Spanish to advise the Chicas as to what you wanted in the room, or was that another poster?

Anyways, it appears as though you are a "backdoor" guy. Well that's not in my wheelhouse, but I bet you could find a Shemale ready to take it in the ass at like 6 AM in El Centro by Veracruz Church. However, they might demand that you penetrate them without a condom. I am assuming that won't work for you, so your best bet would be to go the TLN route.

I will be surprised if anyone is going to have any other early morning backdoor options for you.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2363362]Just go to Bogota. It's cold there, but at least there's tons of options.[/QUOTE]Bogota does have the number, Santa Fe has plenty of cheap pussies but it doesn't have the quality. I seriously doubt you find Medellin mall quality girls in Bogota.

Monday August 26,2019.

Woke up very early, Like 5 am and went to a local food place for what I would call breakfast. I ordered a coffee and a pastry. This exercising really has curbed my eating habit or wants to eat all the time like I do back in the states. A lady friend and I actually walked from Centro to Cuidad Rio, it was 10 km. I did that in about an hour and 45 minutes. I was exhausted no lie, but it was a good way to start my day, I caught the taxi back to Centro. I actually got to see the girls lining up early as 6 am. I also saw a really cute Vennie, along with her mother and brother sleeping in Parque Botero. My lady friend was trying to tell me how sad it was, and I stopped her immediately and told her we all have bad breaks in life and some of them we have to be responsible for, even if the government throws us a left curve. Then I asked her, would you like for me to take her with me and leave you here to sleep in the park? I told her that I learned a long time ago, that when I am on vacation, I cannot fix anyone's problem; I am here for relaxation and focus, not to be worried with the condition of events that I cannot control. She finally realized that I was not trying to hear that and quickly changed the subject.

I had a list of 3 chics that I was going to session today, and I had to get my exercising in first and then send my lady friend home to see her kids and mom, as she always returns at 9 pm to hang out with me and keep me company for the night. I had the little chocolate diamond chic again and she was as fun as ever. I had a new short petite Vennie that hangs around me in the park a lot and she is most definitely on the roster now, at least every other day. Then there was this healthy Vennie chic that has been watching me for the past 3 days just making faces at me, I most definitely had to session with her big booty self. Every one of them has been better than average and took direction very well. I guess it appears like that if you truly speak the language. I am even surprised at myself for being more vocal and asking for certain services because I speak the language. I have been exercising and sessioning girls all week. I have to keep a little energy for my lady friend when she returns tonight, she most definitely will get her 2 sessions out of me and I don't ever have to pay her. I guess speaking the language and laying the ground plan before you make any commitments goes a long way in your favor if nothing unforeseen occurs. I am headed back to Parque Botero just to look to see what I can session with tomorrow. Pollo negro is Out!

[QUOTE=Talon;2363355]I went there on my first trip in 2017 expecting great things and thought the lineup was ho-hum, mostly average looking. I went with the prettiest, a petite 7 who had implants. She wasn't very affectionate and had the terrible habit of constantly changing her technique, even after I told her to stick with what I liked. Took way longer than it should to nut with her. Came back a second time days later. Different girls, same average looks. Again took the prettiest. Again no affection and she constantly tried to rush things so the session would end quickly for her. Couldn't finish at all that time. After that and similarly mediocre casa experiences I concentrated on finding more Facebook friends.

I do give them one credit; their rooms were the nicest I've seen of any casa, with actual hot water in their showers.[/QUOTE]Well, it was a blast in 2001, my first visit there, when gringos were scarce!

And it cost like 60 mil

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2363292]Bad luck kept following, she looks more fat than in the pics and was on her period, I only realized after I put it in. Fuck me! [/QUOTE]Yikes and hope your trip gets better.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2362869]They will probably be back after a while like they have in past after raids. I guess on site girls are not the attraction if guys stay there anyway. I can understand why the explanation of renovations would be floated.[/QUOTE]They really have been doing renovations this year. Apparently the plan is to update all the rooms. They also did get shutdown briefly a few months back. I believe it may have been over some liquor law violation, but I don't remember. As far as I know, they are open again, the bar is open again, with a new name and the girls are back.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363216]My trip is in mid October and my dick is tingling with excitement. I hit up this place on whatsapp to scope out the details. Quoted for 190 Mil Incall for an hour including chupa sin condom and anal. I can do this shit all day.[/QUOTE]And that price is subject to change without notice. Specifically, it's subject to not include chupa sin condom and anal once the girl is in your room.

Gringos are scarce in Laureles, I would go a few weeks without seeing one.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2363383]Well, it was a blast in 2001, my first visit there, when gringos were scarce!

And it cost like 60 mil[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363305]So are there any established options for trying to find some early morning action? Being an early-bird, I can't imagine not waking up there early between 6 am to 9 am. Aside from keeping a girl for TLN to smash away the morning wood, are there some venues where I can call or go to find a hoe at those early hours? Basically, I want to cover all aspects of the day. Casa's start their day around 9-10 am from what I've been reading, but anywhere I can find some early morning anal would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]From my experience, the world over hookers sleep late. (Waking up early and being on time kind of defeats the purpose of being a hooker don't it?) And I didn't think the casas open til about noon. They mostly cater to local guys that may be coming during their lunch break or between runs if they have an out of the office running around job. Think about where you are from. How many people with a normal job have time to be running around trying to get pussy at 9 am when the day is getting started? Waste of time and money to open that early. Go eat some breakfast and read the news online. By that time the casas may be opening up.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2362907]August 22nd, 2019.

I arrived at Rio Negro Airport at 2 pm Medellin time and took the bus to Centro and I can tell you this, there were so many gringo's in the immigration line that it took me about an hour and a half to clear customs. No more filling out custom papers unless you bring vegetables and more than $10,000 USD. So don't be surprised if you see an influx of gringos in Poblado, because that's where I heard them say that they would be staying. I arrived at my room and everything I requested was already in my room so I unpacked and called a friend and she was there within 15 minutes. She's about 4'7" tall with a 42" butt. She's from centro and I have been seeing her about 2 yrs now, so we have a plan worked out. She is available and depending on your budget and likes, she is available, I cannot see all of the girls everyday and most of them need to see clients daily to make ends meet.[/QUOTE]Good reports. Although it's not even in the planning stages yet, I might come begging you for a short one, my next time. I'm not a big ass fan, but I'd be thrilled to find one 4'7".

The walking in El Centro is good. I got up to an average of almost 10 miles per day, although that was spread out all over the city. If you have time between all your girls and your dental work, you might want to widen your walking range. Walking up along the Tranvia line gets into a nice area, plus you get the added exercise of going up the hill.

The area around Parque Boston is also a good place for a walk. From there, you can head north towards La Ladera. El Mirador de La Ladera has some great views. I'd be wary of exploring much above the big park there. Some friends of mine lived there and the man, a Colombian Army vet, pointed out a line he said he wouldn't cross, for any reason.

For something completely different go north and west of Raudal. It's not for the faint of heart. That's the area where all the guys you see digging through the garbage go to sell their scrap. I was surprised I didn't see a place that buys human body parts.

On my last trip I was trying to get together with Lili a nice white Paisa and heard from a friend that her cousin had told him that she was working in Spain for 3 months and also that some go to Italy also to work. This may be where a lot of the great talent are working sometimes. Guess the pay is a lot better than in Medellin.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2362597]All of which begs the question where have the 7's 8's and 9's gone to now. Are they on social media, have regulars or is the prepago ranks shrinking in medellin? I didn't find them at the casas either.[/QUOTE]

I was with a Nikol on my last trip and she was a all natural 22 year old white Paisa, super hot, I met her on my short trip to the Mansion. I felt a little strange, it was like having sex with a Angel LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2362933]Nikol is located near the Laureles Exito. She is in her early thirties. She is kind of nutty but she can deepthroat.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-nikol/[/URL]

I paid 160 COP for an hour which included the upsell of the deepthroat.

The shower only had cold water. Brrrr.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I normally do 30-45 day trips.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2361465]You're outside the US 35 days every month? The plan provides 5 days free international roaming per month. After that it's $10 per day ($5 in Mexico and Canada). If you spend the entire month outside the US it would be $230-$260 more.

For someone who travels internationally frequently, there are better options than what I use. For someone who uses lots of data, but seldom leaves the US for long periods, it's a good option.

For someone who travels inside the US frequently, unless they're flying city to city, T-Mobile is almost useless. Driving 75 miles (200-300 if you're in the west) just to get enough of a signal to receive an important email doesn't work for me. Spending 12 hours with zero service doesn't work either. Not to mention having no service at home.

If I go back to spending 3 days every week in Toronto, I'll probably have to make a change, or just use the company phone.[/QUOTE]

I've made about a dozen trips to Medellin over the past 5 years and the scene seems to be getting increasingly dry. I'm wondering if others are experiencing the same thing. The casas (energy, new life etc.) seem to be getting worse and worse with talent. And even the high-end clubs (fase dos / la isla) seem to be struggling to produce a quality lineup these days. Or perhaps I'm just getting unlucky as I understand timing is everything and results vary from night to night. I'm hoping somebody can cheer me up and say that they've enjoyed the scene recently. I'm wondering if the cam model madness is poaching all the talent away. But I remember 5 years ago all of the aforementioned venues were abundant with talent. Whereas now it's just slim pickings. I love Medellin, the culture, the vibe. It's a great city to be in. But has the mongering scene been downgraded to where it's washed?

I might have to venture into Brazil for the first time as I hear that's pretty heavenly.

Hi,

First time in Medellin and using prepagos. I'm used to the backpages days where the girls never appeared like their pictures. Is this the same for the photoprepagos site? Do they try to upsell on extras like BBBJ or MSOG, which I would think are standard?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2363130]PN,

Does your dentist speak English? I'm looking for couple reference for dentist but my Spanish is really bad. So, I need one that speak English. Don't want them to pull / fix the wrong tooth because of mistranslation LOL.[/QUOTE]Dr. Marcel Hincapie speaks English. He is located in Laureles. Address is CL 44 #68 A-43 Rm 201. He also has an office across the street from that office. He cemented a crown on and did a filling for me. So far, everything is good.

I'm curious to know from those who mess around with the Facebook girls how often sometimes they show up and it's actually a minor who has lied about their age. I ask because some of the profiles look pretty young, but I couldn't tell a 20 year old from a 17 year old. I don't want to go through the trouble of calling somebody over and wasting the time. Should I just remind them that they need an ID that says they are over 18 years old to get into the apartment?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2363450]I'm curious to know from those who mess around with the Facebook girls how often sometimes they show up and it's actually a minor who has lied about their age. I ask because some of the profiles look pretty young, but I couldn't tell a 20 year old from a 17 year old. I don't want to go through the trouble of calling somebody over and wasting the time. Should I just remind them that they need an ID that says they are over 18 years old to get into the apartment?[/QUOTE]So why not go for someone that obviously to you is of age? I think it was Chris Rock that said paying someone minimum wage is like saying if I could pay you less I would. It appears to be the same thing about minimum age. You make it seem that if it was not for this pesky 18 and ID rule at the apartment...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjTRTKHDjg[/url]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362849]Not just that, but they are not dolled up. When you see a street chick, you usually find her the way she would be at home or something. She is not going to have on snazzy boots and her hair done all fresh. Remember the movie Trading Places? Some guys can see through that and realize how the street girl would look in the top quality chick's place and how the top quality chick would look in the street girl's place. If they were switched then you would have the same opinion about the opposite girl. Same damn thing was in Rio. Some guys didn't like the chicks at Vila Mimosa. But when they got off at VM and got dressed up to go Help, many guys would then label the same damn chicks top quality. Don't be fooled by flashy.[/QUOTE]I've seen the transformation with dozens of girls. Without makeup, 6, 7 or maybe an 8. After hair, makeup and nails 8-10. The apartment building I lived in, in Poblado, had about 20 webcam models living there, including my roommate and 1 other friend, who is a big name model on webcam. The girl walking her dog at 8 am looks a lot different from the girl sitting in front of the camera at 8 pm.

For the guys wondering why they can't find them anymore, you're looking in the wrong place. You're looking in 2005, instead of 2019. By the time they're 14, these girls have a phone and half a dozen social media accounts. They know where the money is and they know how to get it. Why go to a casa and earn 20-30 k a pop, when there's some guy in Dubai who'll send 500 k for 3 pictures of your feet?

Aside from the deteriorating casa scene, if one pay a bit more but still lower than these fabled facebook hoes at places like Fase Dos, Las Islas, Luna Lunera, etc can I expect more quality? Whats the line-up there been like recently? I am ready to bang them with a condom and not expect BBJ or anal without I'd imagine at least double her high end price.

Ever consider trying to set up 3 some in a way where the main-star of the show is a 9. 7 from Las Islas that won't do anal or chupa sin condom then you pair it with a Botero-chick that would do both? Seems like something to actively seek, its like casting hoes for a porno.

But if all else fails, seems like online escorts in Medellin is a pretty sure bet. Catador-Colombia is like a goldmine of daily local reviews.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2363431]Dr. Marcel Hincapie speaks English. He is located in Laureles. Address is CL 44 #68 A-43 Rm 201. He also has an office across the street from that office. He cemented a crown on and did a filling for me. So far, everything is good.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. I usually like to stay in Laureles, so this is perfect.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2363346]Guess it's not just me. I went twice, two weeks apart, and left without seeing a girl I would rate above a 6. Out of shape low quality girls.

There were English speaking groups both times I stopped by and they seemed to think the selection was adequate but I think they were newer to the game and intended to choose a girl no matter what.[/QUOTE]Laureles is gringo central. A lot of newbies.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2363383]Well, it was a blast in 2001, my first visit there, when gringos were scarce!

And it cost like 60 mil[/QUOTE]2001? Every monger destination was gold then compared to now. Even non-monger destinations are getting pushback now because of the large increase in mass commercial tourism.

There is like five times more tourism to Medellin since just 2015 and also the growth in expats and much of this new growth has been to Laureles.

[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/medellin-datin...Oeze0aweN0[/URL]

"Due to its violent history, Medellin has never had big waves of foreign visitors compared to other cities in the region. In 2015, 212,000 foreigners visited the city and in 2019 this number has almost surpassed a million. While foreigners are mostly treated with kindness and respect, this reception to visitors will likely change if the paradigm of sexual and drug-related tourism keeps increasing. ".

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2363584]Laureles is gringo central. A lot of newbies.[/QUOTE]I thought this title belong to Poblado. Beside Poblado & Laureles, what other area are nice to stay in?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2363585]2001?

There is like five times more tourism to Medellin since just 2015 and also the growth in expats and much of this new growth has been to Laureles.".[/QUOTE]It is amazing how much tourism has increased, I can remember over ten years ago when tourism didn't exist, period. There were no currency exchange places, and to exchange USD to Pesos required filling out multiple forms in a bank, being fingerprinted, and the being hit with a heavy surcharge / percentage, and a terrible exchange rate. The tourism is good for the Country, but as pointed out by others, it has affected a slice of our hobby (casa's / strip clubs, Facebook, etc.) with the hordes of gringos showing up at least in Medellin.

In my opinion though, even with the tourism and gringos that have followed, it has had little effect on the SW venues frequented by the locals in Medellin, and other Cities throughout the country. I am in Cucuta right now, and have yet to see a gringo, let alone any tourists.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363463]So why not go for someone that obviously to you is of age? I think it was Chris Rock that said paying someone minimum wage is like saying if I could pay you less I would. It appears to be the same thing about minimum age. You make it seem that if it was not for this pesky 18 and ID rule at the apartment...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjTRTKHDjg[/url][/QUOTE]You would be terribly mistaken. It's not a "pesky" ID rule, you read a lot into what is not there. I'm saying I don't want to be inconvenienced by having to deal with some flakey kid at the reception desk. I have just read that many of these chicas have photos that are old, and so it's a crap shoot on who shows up, whether it's the chica in the photo or an older tireder much less attractive version. You did try to make a good point about choosing someone obviously of age, but you did not read where I said I'm not a good judge of age, unless they have wrinkles and crows feet.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363305]Hey guys,

So are there any established options for trying to find some early morning action? Being an early-bird, I can't imagine not waking up there early between 6 am to 9 am. Aside from keeping a girl for TLN to smash away the morning wood, are there some venues where I can call or go to find a hoe at those early hours? Basically, I want to cover all aspects of the day. Casa's start their day around 9-10 am from what I've been reading, but anywhere I can find some early morning anal would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]As Mr. Ent said it's hard to find girls that will meet you before noon. Your best bet is with FB girls. I've known a few that went to work at noon and would ONLY meet in the morning, like at 8 am. Neither of them did anal though.

From the ample experiences of banging Medellin, which establishments in general have ya'll seen more Suicide-Girls working in?

Suicide Girl is a girl I define as having tons of tattoos and nice piercings. Preferably build like a bimbo. IMO, it doesn't get sexier than that.

[QUOTE=Talon;2363606]As Mr. Ent said it's hard to find girls that will meet you before noon. Your best bet is with FB girls. I've known a few that went to work at noon and would ONLY meet in the morning, like at 8 am. Neither of them did anal though.[/QUOTE]Might be worth a TLN fee for certain girls then. That morning nut is by far the most satisfying in the day, especially in a warm booty.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2363383]Well, it was a blast in 2001, my first visit there, when gringos were scarce!

And it cost like 60 mil[/QUOTE]During my first visit to Medellin in 2004 I saw not one gringo in the city the week that I was there. However, I do not believe an influx of gringos caused a decline in quality of chicas. The problem today is the number of fat female paisas. When I first visited Medellin it was unusual to see a fat working girl in the casas. All the hookers were slim and attractive.
I remember nine years ago I saw this really good looking fat chica in a casa and sessioned her; it was a big deal and I clearly remembered the session because she was the first overweight provider I had sessioned in Medellin and one of the very few I had seen at all. Fast forward to yesterday and I go to chicaspuntocom and all the seven girls who were presented were plump, I went next door to the casa the name of which I forget now (probably Massages Paisas?) and all except one were chubby. I chose the non-rotund one, Samantha, and I ask where she's from and lo and behold she answers Venezuela. If it wasn't for the Venezuelan providers I'm not too sure that Medellin would be a good destination for our sport.

I had conversations with two girls who were both stunners, 9. 5's, who's Facebook friends list is flush with the same gringos as many prepagos, yet these girls both tell me that they are not prepagos, and when I ask them if they want to meet up for dinner, they both said yes. I'm an older guy and not attractive to younger women. Who thinks these women are out to hustle me and if so, how would that go down? For example would these sirens spend the night and then nail me with a $1000 dollar tab in the morning?

Hey guys, am coming down to Medellin in 2 weeks, staying in a hotel in Laureles (gringo central now apparently? Tried to pick up as much information as possible reading the forum, between all the chat about Facebook and the mansion! But still have some questions.

Have a month and a half in Colombia, booked a week in Medellin so if I don't like the scene there I can just move on to somewhere else like Bucaramanga, Barranquilla or Santa Marta!

Since there was a lot of chat a few weeks ago on here saying the motels in Laureles were not allowing in anyone without ID and some not allowing us Gringo's in at all, has there been any change in that? Where are most motels in Laureles, along a certain street? What about Avenida 33 I've read about here, good area / other motels there except Kuboz? That doesn't look like it's in Laureles. Does anybody know the motel Esplendor 70 suite on Carrera 70 A? Saw it on Google maps as is just next door to a hotel I was interested in. VAt the intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro, what are the motels like? Safe / clean?

I see that Laureles is pretty close to the centre and to Belen, is it 'safe' (the dreaded word!) to walk to these areas from Laureles during the day? What surrounding areas to Laureles are a definite no-go area, any? Have seen some online chicas I like the look of in Bello and Itagui, are they safe areas, and is it OK to take public transport there? I've read that Bello is an upcoming area, don't know anything about Itagui though. Sorry for all the questions and thanks for any advice you can give guys!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2363623] Fast forward to yesterday and I go to chicaspuntocom and all the seven girls who were presented were plump, I went next door to the casa the name of which I forget now (probably Massages Paisas?) and all except one were chubby.[/QUOTE] Apart from being chubby, were many of these chicas pretty? Are they just fat or any with a decent rack and ass (my type!). If so, great ! Please let me know where they are.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2363641]Hey guys, am coming down to Medellin in 2 weeks, staying in a hotel in Laureles (gringo central now apparently? Tried to pick up as much information as possible reading the forum, between all the chat about Facebook and the mansion! But still have some questions.

Have a month and a half in Colombia, booked a week in Medellin so if I don't like the scene there I can just move on to somewhere else like Bucaramanga, Barranquilla or Santa Marta!

Since there was a lot of chat a few weeks ago on here saying the motels in Laureles were not allowing in anyone without ID and some not allowing us Gringo's in at all, has there been any change in that? Where are most motels in Laureles, along a certain street? What about Avenida 33 I've read about here, good area / other motels there except Kuboz? That doesn't look like it's in Laureles. Does anybody know the motel Esplendor 70 suite on Carrera 70 A? Saw it on Google maps as is just next door to a hotel I was interested in. VAt the intersection of Calle 52 and Carrea 53 in El Centro, what are the motels like? Safe / clean?

I see that Laureles is pretty close to the centre and to Belen, is it 'safe' (the dreaded word!) to walk to these areas from Laureles during the day? What surrounding areas to Laurles are a definite no-go area, any? Have seen some online chicas I like the look of in Bello and Itagui, are they safe areas, and is it OK to take public transport there? I've read that Bello is an upcoming area, don't know anything about Itagui though. Sorry for all the questions and thanks for any advice you can give guys![/QUOTE]Better off getting an airbnb in laurlres in the conquesadores area (that is near unicentro mall and safe).

Stay away from Bello, it is very dangerous and without an inside connection you will most likely get robbed or fucked with. Most Prepagos live with thier kid in bello cause the rent is cheap as fuck. For some reason the hotter they are the more dangerous the hood they live in. Its weird.

Anyway. Youll prob want to stay in Med for 2 weeks.

Some advice, bucuramamca is ok but boring but ok. Santa Marta, watch out for the parasite in the water. For all the years I been going, it is the only time I ever got sick was in Santa Marta. Like don't even brush your teeth with the tap water. Each packaged food only or else you will be out for 3 days with the worst stomach pain and throw up and shitting in your entire life.

Other then that, lautrrles is dope cause its close to all the casa and way easier to get to, but do an airbnb instead.

Here's a few Do's and Don'ts in Centro.

As of today, $30,000 pesos is $8. 72 cents USD and $50,000 pesos is $14.50 cents USD. If you cannot afford to spend $15 USD for an incredible session, please be careful in Centro. Many of these girls have male companions and boyfriends and husbands that are nearby to keep them safe. Many of the girls have told me that the Americans are getting cheaper and cheaper and expecting more and more service for less money. I have seen a few fights in Parque Botero since I arrived and I have seen how the entire set up works. I have yet to see anyone post that a Casa was only charging $30 mil for half hour sessions? If the girl gives you an incredible time, at least have $15 to give her.

The number 2 Don't that you should not do in Centro at this time is: Do not come to Centro looking for skinny white 18 yr old girls who will knock your socks off for $8. 72 cents USD. If they were ever hear, they are no longer here and I can assure you of this. Many of the girls in the park at this time are on the darker side, which is not a problem for me, but I have had a few fellow mongers request European looking girls who were skinny and willing to take $30 mil pesos. I am here every day and I have yet to see any skinny white European looking chics working in Parque Botero, maybe they are at the Casas, but they are not in Parque Botero.

The Number 3 Don't that you should not do in Centro as this time is: do not approach these girls if they appear to be with family and you clearly see that they have infants around. A year ago, I did not see any infants in the park after dark. Last night, after 9 pm, I was sitting in the park to observe and believe it or not, I saw more than 100 infants in the park with their mothers and extended families. So trust me when I tell you that the Vennies are really in Parque Botero. I have no idea how long the Police and local government will allow this to go on, but I am sure I saw one girl (A Vennie) who had an infant, maybe 9-15 months old in her arms from 6 am to 9 pm. She, the sister, and the mother would take turns holding the child while the others would have Citas. But I am making you aware of all the things you should not do in Centro, if you come here with no conscious, you may not leave with all fingers or a clean record. Please use your Big Head and some common sense; it will be in your benefit.

On a Positive Note: I found out that every Thursday the local health bus come to Parque Botero to check anyone who wants to have free blood work done and they check for Hepatitis, STDs, HIV, and all kinds of immunizations that may not be available to foreigners otherwise. This was just my little spill, but every one please be safe and use caution! Pollo Negro is Out.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2363676] Santa Marta, watch out for the parasite in the water. For all the years I been going, it is the only time I ever got sick was in Santa Marta. Like don't even brush your teeth with the tap water. Each packaged food only or else you will be out for 3 days with the worst stomach pain and throw up and shitting in your entire life.

Other then that, lautrrles is dope cause its close to all the casa and way easier to get to, but do an airbnb instead.[/QUOTE]Spent a week there July 4th week. Not one bit of problems with the water. Drank bottled water & salads / lettucevegtables in the restaurants and. Not a bit of problems. I always drink bottled water but never think about this when brushing in the morning. So again, no problems with the water in SMR.

I did however, get the symptoms you describe while on a trip to MDE but I wouldn't / didn't discourage anyone else from going to the MDE based on an isolated incident.

El Mechanico.

I usually don't hang around Parque Lleras unless I want to see lots of gringos and pay tourist prices for everything from girls to guaro. But it was a Monday night and I was drinking it up with one of my regulars at a bar in Envigado. The place was closing at midnight and we wanted to keep partying. All other bars nearby were shutting down as well, so off we go to gringoland. Lleras is a good backup plan for late night food, parties, and girls on a slow weekday, albeit a more expensive one. I was surprised there were places that were open till 4 am and some even charged cover. We hit up a no cover club and drank and danced for an hour, nursing our 20 mil coronas because they "ran out" of domestic beers.

Around 2 am, I use inDriver, a ride-sharing app (cheaper than Uber) to get back to my Envigado apt. I'm walking with my girl down calle 10 and make a left on the street where club Babylon is located, within seconds a police bike with 2 officers roll up on me. They ask me questions, one checks the cedula of my girl and the other one body searches me. I can see he's just looking for anything illegal on me and doesn't even ask for my ID. This is the first time I've ever been stopped and searched by police in Colombia in over 7 years coming here. I always carry some white powder on me and sometimes tussi. He's looking through all the corners and crevices of my wallet and finally strikes gold and sees my baggie. He tells me I'm going to jail for this and proceeds to lecture me. I listen for a minute and tell him let's work something out. Said I had 100 mil, then he counters with 200 mil. That fucker already looked through my wallet and had an idea how much money was in it. I said 150 mil, and he took it. Then I kindly asked for my baggie back. That mofo gave back my stash and then took off with his buddy cop, no doubt looking for their next victims.

The whole confrontation lasted less than 5 minutes. We were in a small and empty street corner so no one really saw what was happening. I doubt they would've done that in a crowded area or right on the park. We get to the car and my girl asked me how much I gave, I said 150 mil. She said, 50 mil woulda been enough LOL. Even the driver said my 100 mil offer was more than enough. Well, 150 mil is better than a Colombian jail cell haha. Lesson learned, not going to Lleras or anywhere touristy with any baggies, but if I do, going to hide it in my sock LOL.

Much better to hang out in la 45 in Manrique where you can huff, puff, and snort at the clubs like everyone else and you won't see any gringos within a 10 mile radius. I suggest clubs Praga or Zenith for anyone interested, but make sure you go with a girl you know. Interesting how some locals stay away from Manrique due to perceived danger and its lower estrata. Now I can tell them I feel safer there than in Lleras because at least I won't get shaken down by corrupt cops.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2363640]I had conversations with two girls who were both stunners, 9. 5's, who's Facebook friends list is flush with the same gringos as many prepagos, yet these girls both tell me that they are not prepagos, and when I ask them if they want to meet up for dinner, they both said yes. I'm an older guy and not attractive to younger women. Who thinks these women are out to hustle me and if so, how would that go down? For example would these sirens spend the night and then nail me with a $1000 dollar tab in the morning?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry about that happening. If you are really as unattractive as you let on, just take them out and before you bring them back to your place tell them what you are going to pay them. After dinner and drinks you will have a better idea of what she is worth to you anyway. Chicks that play this game are usually looking for long term clients.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2363676]Better off getting an airbnb in laurlres in the conquesadores area (that is near unicentro mall and safe).

Stay away from Bello, it is very dangerous and without an inside connection you will most likely get robbed or fucked with. Most Prepagos live with thier kid in bello cause the rent is cheap as fuck. For some reason the hotter they are the more dangerous the hood they live in. Its weird.

Anyway. Youll prob want to stay in Med for 2 weeks.

Some advice, bucuramamca is ok but boring but ok. Santa Marta, watch out for the parasite in the water. For all the years I been going, it is the only time I ever got sick was in Santa Marta. Like don't even brush your teeth with the tap water. Each packaged food only or else you will be out for 3 days with the worst stomach pain and throw up and shitting in your entire life.

Other then that, laureles is dope cause its close to all the casa and way easier to get to, but do an airbnb instead.[/QUOTE]BlueChange, thanks a lot for the advice! I got an Airbnb on my last trip in Bogota in March, but have already booked the hotel and that's how I feel like starting off the trip. I don't like bringing chicas back to my place much, so that benefit of an Airbnb doesn't really apply. For me, the benefit is being more homely and being able to cook etc. Might get one in Santa Marta for example. By the way I was also there in March and also didn't really have any stomach issues.

Thanks for the advice re. Bello, I'll stay away from the place! What about walking to el centro and to Belen from Laureles, is that OK? There are several prepagados I definitely want to meet in Bucaramanga so it will be my for sure 'off the beaten track' destination. Boring might be good anyway after Medellin, who knows? Got any advice re. The daytime motels, good Casas in Laureles? I'm into curvy chicas as opposed to barbie dolls! Thanks again.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363620]From the ample experiences of banging Medellin, which establishments in general have ya'll seen more Suicide-Girls working in?

Suicide Girl is a girl I define as having tons of tattoos and nice piercings. Preferably build like a bimbo. IMO, it doesn't get sexier than that.[/QUOTE]Not an establishment, but if you're not afraid to use social media here are 3 who fit your bill:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/LucyTapias.R[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/johannaa.gallego/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362806]My first visit to Venezuela was in 1975, I remember being absolutely blown away by the women in Caracas. The only comparisons to having been impressed by the beauties to that extent have been on visits to Italy and Argentina. I have never mongered in Caracas but for decades have had it on my bucket list.

Now to turn to comparisons of P$P women and average women in the streets. In Germany, for example, I find that the women who work in FKKs are just as alluring as the attractive women one would see on the streets there. Turning to Medellin I find that the attractive women one sees on the streets are way more attractive than the P$P women. Consequently, in El Centro the women one sees plying their wares in the street walker areas are significantly less attractive than the ordinary women one would see in the shopping centers and the streets surrounding them. As far as I am concerned even the best looking ladies in the casas are no where as striking as the best looking girls one would see in the Centro malls and streets surrounding them or in Poblado.

Just a thought what if, like Germany, the P$P girls in Medellin were as lovely as the gorgeous girls one sees in the malls in Poblado? What a destination this would be![/QUOTE]I like the way you compare things. When I went to Buenos Aires several times between 2002 and 2010, the choice of hookers was fantastic, I would say they were definitely better looking than the average woman on the street. Just after the financial crash of 2001, gorgeous regular women were easily available online, ie ones that wouldn't normally have been working. Same goes for Budapest between say 2005 – 2012, whereas now I would say you see way more gorgeous women walking about there than are available online. The scene there has gone downhill big time. In Bogota, I would say the incidence was about even, gorgeous ones out from their offices at lunchtime and working girls. So basically, I would say the more the country's economy is in trouble, the more chance you will have of getting a hooker who is as good looking as the gorgeous ones you see in the mall!

But from my taste, I don't find Argentinian women so gorgeous, the average woman is too petite and skinny for me. I don't remember being stunned by endless pretty faces either. I've been to Buenos Aires loads of times and spent months there. Re. German women, they smoke too much and are more butch than the men, and not a particularly good looking bunch. I was in Frankfurt last week for a few days. Sure, I saw some nice looking blondes, but see way more sexy women even here in Antwerp on a daily basis, where we also get a lot of tall Dutch visitors. Even in an average English town, women are way better looking than in Germany. Prettier faces and curvier. And from where I've been in Europe anyway, the highest incidence of pretty and sexy women is in Hungary.

On another point, for me the joy of having a great lay is that I am thinking, WOW! I am getting to shag this amazing looking woman, how lucky am I! The best lay I had on my last trip was with a Venezuelan in Santa Marta, getting off with her was the easiest sex I ever had, just the view of her body, face and the sounds she made was enough! So for me, it's a case of 'I want sex with her because she is so gorgeous' and NOT 'Hmmm, I need to get laid, I'll just pick the best of a bad bunch'. That would be depressing and give me bad memories! So if I go into a Casa when I'm in Medellin where the women are not my taste, I will just leave.

[QUOTE=Eloshine007;2363425]Hi,

First time in Medellin and using prepagos. I'm used to the backpages days where the girls never appeared like their pictures. Is this the same for the photoprepagos site? Do they try to upsell on extras like BBBJ or MSOG, which I would think are standard?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why would you think those things are standard? You just called them extras. If you order a pizza and tell them you want double the meat and extra cheese, wouldn't you expect to pay extra?

When you're dealing with any of the online prepago advertising sites, expect there to be a full price list. You may get extras without being charged, but it's a lot easier to deal with getting something for nothing, than to find out you didn't bring enough cash to get what you want.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2363717]BlueChange, thanks a lot for the advice! I got an Airbnb on my last trip in Bogota in March, but have already booked the hotel and that's how I feel like starting off the trip. I don't like bringing chicas back to my place much, so that benefit of an Airbnb doesn't really apply. For me, the benefit is being more homely and being able to cook etc. Might get one in Santa Marta for example. By the way I was also there in March and also didn't really have any stomach issues.

Thanks for the advice re. Bello, I'll stay away from the place! What about walking to el centro and to Belen from Laureles, is that OK? There are several prepagados I definitely want to meet in Bucaramanga so it will be my for sure 'off the beaten track' destination. Boring might be good anyway after Medellin, who knows? Got any advice re. The daytime motels, good Casas in Laureles? I'm into curvy chicas as opposed to barbie dolls! Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Hotel Esplendor 70 told me that only people with a Colombian cedula could check in. However, Suites 44, on Carrera 70 A and Calle 44 had no problems. Rooms are small and clean with Air conditioning and hot water. Can't remember the price, but it was reasonable.

Walking from Laureles to El Centro is a bit of a hike. There's only a narrow curb to walk on when crossing the bridge over the Autopista. I've done the walk a few times, including once after dark.

Easier way is to take the metro. From your hotel, if I'm understanding you, just walk north to the Estadio Metro station. Get on the train going to San Antonio. San Antonio is the last stop. From there you can either go down and get on the train to Niquia or just walk. Parque Berrio is the next station north and most convenient for the casas.

The metro is safe. I've had people warn me that my phone was sticking out of my pocket, that my backpack was unzipped and that my shoes were untied. I even fainted once, due to a blood sugar problem. The other passengers ran to get help, kept the train from leaving and helped me up.

I've also walked from Belen back to Laureles, at night. There are a few blocks that might make you nervous, at night, but nobody bothered me.

If you decide to go to Belen and you're in El Centro, get on the Metro going towards La Estrella and go to Industriales station. Follow the signs for the L1 and L2 bus line. Hop on the bus going to you de M. These are dedicated bus lanes similar to the Transmilenio in Bogota.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2363640]I had conversations with two girls who were both stunners, 9. 5's, who's Facebook friends list is flush with the same gringos as many prepagos, yet these girls both tell me that they are not prepagos, and when I ask them if they want to meet up for dinner, they both said yes. I'm an older guy and not attractive to younger women. Who thinks these women are out to hustle me and if so, how would that go down? For example would these sirens spend the night and then nail me with a $1000 dollar tab in the morning?[/QUOTE]I've never bothered to ask any girl on Facebook if she's a prepago. Many of them wouldn't consider themselves prepagos, even if they had a price list tattooed on their back.

It's pretty simple. You say Hello,. You ask how they are. "Hola linda. Como estás?" Maybe throw in a compliment. Then tell them you'll be in town soon. Most will take the hint and begin negotiations. If not, "quiero verte", I want to see you, usually gets the ball rolling.

I never use "prepago", "compañera" is better. "Cuando estoy en Medellin, quiero una compañera por una noche. " When I'm in Medellin I want a companion for come night. If they get indignant, then move on. I suppose that could happen.

Eventually, if they're selling, they'll let you know.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363620]From the ample experiences of banging Medellin, which establishments in general have ya'll seen more Suicide-Girls working in?

Suicide Girl is a girl I define as having tons of tattoos and nice piercings. Preferably build like a bimbo. IMO, it doesn't get sexier than that.[/QUOTE]Closest I have come to a Suicide type girl in MED is my redhead Sofie who I met on SeekingArrangements, and some street chick I picked up down the street from my hotel, she had the ears on and sparkle makeup, red streaks in her hair and lots of tattoos and wanted 30 k. The street chicks are usually more tatted up like these spinners:

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363622]Might be worth a TLN fee for certain girls then. That morning nut is by far the most satisfying in the day, especially in a warm booty.[/QUOTE]Try out your daytime girls. Any of them you like, get their WhatsApp. Set up an early morning appointment. Problem solved.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363546]Aside from the deteriorating casa scene, if one pay a bit more but still lower than these fabled facebook hoes at places like Fase Dos, Las Islas, Luna Lunera, etc can I expect more quality? Whats the line-up there been like recently? I am ready to bang them with a condom and not expect BBJ or anal without I'd imagine at least double her high end price.

Ever consider trying to set up 3 some in a way where the main-star of the show is a 9. 7 from Las Islas that won't do anal or chupa sin condom then you pair it with a Botero-chick that would do both? Seems like something to actively seek, its like casting hoes for a porno.

But if all else fails, seems like online escorts in Medellin is a pretty sure bet. Catador-Colombia is like a goldmine of daily local reviews.[/QUOTE]You don't pay less at Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. The price is about the same as a Facebook girl. You don't pay the same at La Isla. The price is about double the price of a Facebook girl.

A high end girl usually sees herself as better than your typical streetwalker. A bottom rung girl is likely to be intimidated by a girl who's pulling in the big dollars. While it's probably possible to set this fantasy up, you're going to pay a lot more and most likely you'll walk away feeling like you completely wasted your money.

Getting a good 3 some in Colombia is already difficult. Most girls want a trio instead. A trio is like a tag team wrestling match. One girl fucks while the other plays on her phone, raids the mini bar, does something annoying, or searches for valuables.

A 3 some either requires 2 girls who are already intimate with each other, or constant direction. The constant direction gets old quick. Now imagine providing constant direction to two strangers, in a foreign language when one girl thinks the other is dirty and the other girl thinks the one is a stuck up *****.

I'm looking forward to the report.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2363623]During my first visit to Medellin in 2004 I saw not one gringo in the city the week that I was there. However, I do not believe an influx of gringos caused a decline in quality of chicas. The problem today is the number of fat female paisas. When I first visited Medellin it was unusual to see a fat working girl in the casas. All the hookers were slim and attractive.
I remember nine years ago I saw this really good looking fat chica in a casa and sessioned her; it was a big deal and I clearly remembered the session because she was the first overweight provider I had sessioned in Medellin and one of the very few I had seen at all. Fast forward to yesterday and I go to chicaspuntocom and all the seven girls who were presented were plump, I went next door to the casa the name of which I forget now (probably Massages Paisas?) and all except one were chubby. I chose the non-rotund one, Samantha, and I ask where she's from and lo and behold she answers Venezuela. If it wasn't for the Venezuelan providers I'm not too sure that Medellin would be a good destination for our sport.[/QUOTE]May I ask what is it that you guys consider to be fat? I'm going to Colombia for my 1st time either in late October or early November & I just can't fathom how the women there could be too fat or unattractive considering that everytime I see Colombian women in other countries like Panama they're always so attractive & I'm talking girls who work in the most shady places to the most expensive all were pretty hot, I'm expecting that if I go to the source itself the selection can only be better. Can I please see a picture of what you consider to be "fat" please.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2363694]Spent a week there July 4th week. Not one bit of problems with the water. Drank bottled water & salads / lettucevegtables in the restaurants and. Not a bit of problems. I always drink bottled water but never think about this when brushing in the morning. So again, no problems with the water in SMR.

I did however, get the symptoms you describe while on a trip to MDE but I wouldn't / didn't discourage anyone else from going to the MDE based on an isolated incident.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I went to Santa Marta twice, the first time no upset tummy. Second time I got a Parasite infection. The water and sanitation is an issue there. During my two visits I stayed away from anything that wasn't either cooked or could be peeled. Yes of course you need to drink bottled water there and brush your teeth with it. But eating salads and uncooked vegetables / fruits is another matter, as they don't use purified water to wash things.

When I got the parasite infection, the Doctor in Medellin who diagnosed what I had explained to me there lot's and lots of people who get parasite infections in that region. As careful as I was, I still got sick. If you read the Santa Marta board you will read similar stories to mine, however there are a few who have had no problems there. But more people had problems than didn't.

I am not discouraging people from going there. You can get excellent seafood there, and there is an abundant amount of Chicas available!

One thing I didn't tell the woman Doctor I saw was that I had munched on a Santa Marta Chica, maybe that's how I got the Parasite infection.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2363755]May I ask what is it that you guys consider to be fat? I'm going to Colombia for my 1st time either in late October or early November & I just can't fathom how the women there could be too fat or unattractive considering that everytime I see Colombian women in other countries like Panama they're always so attractive & I'm talking girls who work in the most shady places to the most expensive all were pretty hot, I'm expecting that if I go to the source itself the selection can only be better. Can I please see a picture of what you consider to be "fat" please.[/QUOTE]You don't need any pictures to understand this. Of course the Colombian women in Panama or other Countries are attractive and hot. If they weren't, they wouldn't of traveled out of their own country to get work.

[QUOTE=Eloshine007;2363425]Hi,

First time in Medellin and using prepagos. I'm used to the backpages days where the girls never appeared like their pictures. Is this the same for the photoprepagos site? Do they try to upsell on extras like BBBJ or MSOG, which I would think are standard?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is my first trip using the classifieds. Like everywhere in the world classified ads are hit or miss from pictures that are not current, heavily photo-shopped to the girl not looking anywhere close to what one would have hoped, since in many classified ads the faces are blurred out (especially for an agency they can pretty much send anyone) I have been using [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL] / [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] & co. [URL]skokka.com[/URL]. Some girls advertise across all platforms.

What's great about this new scene, is that you can do most of your negotiating via WhatsApp. Most of these sites have that function integrated into ecah ad, I have had responses back in a few minutes and you can see the chica is online before reaching out. I have been pretty upfront and forward with my requests, typing works better for me than speaking. It's just another way to go in our hobby's quest to get the best bang for your buck.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363620]From the ample experiences of banging Medellin, which establishments in general have ya'll seen more Suicide-Girls working in?

Suicide Girl is a girl I define as having tons of tattoos and nice piercings. Preferably build like a bimbo. IMO, it doesn't get sexier than that.[/QUOTE]Hit this one up. She writes me a couple times and day and just doesn't seem to understand that I'm busy with other women right now.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/majo.alvarezbarrios[/URL]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2363709]

Much better to hang out in la 45 in Manrique where you can huff, puff, and snort at the clubs like everyone else and you won't see any gringos within a 10 mile radius. I suggest clubs Praga or Zenith for anyone interested, but make sure you go with a girl you know. Interesting how some locals stay away from Manrique due to perceived danger and its lower estrata. Now I can tell them I feel safer there than in Lleras because at least I won't get shaken down by corrupt cops.[/QUOTE]My GF lives in Santa Cruz and it's a shit hole like Manrique. I don't think I would hang out there even if I was the kinda dude walking around Colombia with cocaine. To each his own. Good luck!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2363694]Spent a week there July 4th week. Not one bit of problems with the water. Drank bottled water & salads / lettucevegtables in the restaurants and. Not a bit of problems. I always drink bottled water but never think about this when brushing in the morning. So again, no problems with the water in SMR.

I did however, get the symptoms you describe while on a trip to MDE but I wouldn't / didn't discourage anyone else from going to the MDE based on an isolated incident.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I hope no one gets sick on their trips. Like you, I was in Santa Marta and didn't get sick. I did, however, go snorkling and ate some really good food there. Definitely, want to go back soon.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2363422]I've made about a dozen trips to Medellin over the past 5 years and the scene seems to be getting increasingly dry. I'm wondering if others are experiencing the same thing. The casas (energy, new life etc.) seem to be getting worse and worse with talent. And even the high-end clubs (fase dos / la isla) seem to be struggling to produce a quality lineup these days. I love Medellin, the culture, the vibe. It's a great city to be in. But has the mongering scene been downgraded to where it's washed?
[/QUOTE]Visited Medellin last month and have to admit it was dried from all casas and high end clubs. As you mentioned, love the city and vibe that I get but Facebook and other on-line might be way to go now.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2363600]It is amazing how much tourism has increased, I can remember over ten years ago when tourism didn't exist, period. There were no currency exchange places, and to exchange USD to Pesos required filling out multiple forms in a bank, being fingerprinted, and the being hit with a heavy surcharge / percentage, and a terrible exchange rate. The tourism is good for the Country, but as pointed out by others, it has affected a slice of our hobby (casa's / strip clubs, Facebook, etc.) with the hordes of gringos showing up at least in Medellin.

In my opinion though, even with the tourism and gringos that have followed, it has had little effect on the SW venues frequented by the locals in Medellin, and other Cities throughout the country. I am in Cucuta right now, and have yet to see a gringo, let alone any tourists.[/QUOTE]Outside of MDE is still gold, although more people are migrating to places like Cali, which I'm keeping an eye on. I remember the fingerprint thing when I used to travel here as a visitor back in the day. I think a lot of people use ATMs now so that kind of stuff might not be much of an issue. The tourism thing can go both ways but it is definitely noticeable. I even see a lot of broke gringos trying to make money here by doing things like being street entertainers or posting everything related to MDE on Youtube in hopes of getting a following.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2363539]I've seen the transformation with dozens of girls. Without makeup, 6, 7 or maybe an 8. After hair, makeup and nails 8-10. The apartment building I lived in, in Poblado, had about 20 webcam models living there, including my roommate and 1 other friend, who is a big name model on webcam. The girl walking her dog at 8 am looks a lot different from the girl sitting in front of the camera at 8 pm.

For the guys wondering why they can't find them anymore, you're looking in the wrong place. You're looking in 2005, instead of 2019. By the time they're 14, these girls have a phone and half a dozen social media accounts. They know where the money is and they know how to get it. Why go to a casa and earn 20-30 k a pop, when there's some guy in Dubai who'll send 500 k for 3 pictures of your feet?[/QUOTE]Yeah you are right. I see whole Colombian girls in Webcams these days when you click south America. Its ridiculous 40 $ just to see boobs for few minutes digitally.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2363791]Hit this one up. She writes me a couple times and day and just doesn't seem to understand that I'm busy with other women right now.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/majo.alvarezbarrios[/URL][/QUOTE]Because I have 5 friends that are mongers in common with her. So of course she is a hooker.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2363640]I had conversations with two girls who were both stunners, 9. 5's, who's Facebook friends list is flush with the same gringos as many prepagos, yet these girls both tell me that they are not prepagos, and when I ask them if they want to meet up for dinner, they both said yes.[/QUOTE]Dude that is dumb women shit. When they tell you no say that is too bad. I am on here looking for prepagos. If they then won't admit it then ask if they know anyone that is a prepago that they could hook you up with.

This Dominican chick from Cupid was talking to me everyday. She didn't have a profile pic in her whatsapp so I forgot how she looked. I told her to send me some pictures and the first picture she sent was of her ass out. Only a hooker would do that. I asked if she was a hooker and she said no. I let that go in one ear and out the other My next question was how much do you want. She said $100. I laughed. I got her down to $30 and told her I would call her the next time I am in Santo Domingo.

I have passed some time in the bars of Manrique and Aranjuez with no issues. Of course I'm with chicas, not alone. I much prefer this to Lleras also.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2363709]
Much better to hang out in la 45 in Manrique where you can huff, puff, and snort at the clubs like everyone else and you won't see any gringos within a 10 mile radius. I suggest clubs Praga or Zenith for anyone interested, but make sure you go with a girl you know. Interesting how some locals stay away from Manrique due to perceived danger and its lower estrata. Now I can tell them I feel safer there than in Lleras because at least I won't get shaken down by corrupt cops.[/QUOTE]

It did not start out to be promising as all the phones were dark when I began to Whatsapp the chicas. These chicas must use separate phones when they are working. I just can't imagine a chica not connected to a phone 24/7 in this day and age. I may not have enough imagination.

One thing you need to do on Whatsapp is to change your status. The chicas see the change on their status bar so they know when you are ready for play. Pardon if I am being too obvious here.

Yesterday, I arranged a cita with my third-favorite Tinder match based on photos and conversations. Appointment is at 15:00 and she shows at 16:30 claiming babysitter problems. She is cute tiny chica and I ask to see her cedula. Turns out she is 21 next week but she could pass for younger through these old eyes. Unfortunately the birth of the baby caused some body damage. The session went well with the chica trusting me enough through time to engage in a very submissive sex act. I have not found many willing to do it. Maybe I just don't ask enough chicas to perform it. (Today I tried it again but the chica was not willing to give me full control.) She cut the session short after we showered together at 75 minutes saying she had to return to her child. I was going to tip for performance but since she shorted me 15 minutes I gave her the agreed upon amount. Today she sent me photos of her 19-year old friend who has limited availability because she has both job and school obligations who wants a cita.

I am now conversing with my favorite Tinder chica but I get the feeling she has better offers. I am unable to schedule a time. Second favorite is still in the dark. Another chica whatsapped me from Tinder that I did not have on my contact list. Remember I got banned from Tinder. Whether the time I put into it was worth it still remains to be seen.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2363839]It did not start out to be promising as all the phones were dark when I began to Whatsapp the chicas.

One thing you need to do on Whatsapp is to change your status. The chicas see the change on their status bar so they know when you are ready for play. Pardon if I am being too obvious here.[/QUOTE]No idea what this even means brother. I have had whatsapp since it existed and never have I bothered to or would know how to look at anybody's status or know if someone's phone was dark. What would that have to do with anything? When I am ready to see a chick or talk to a chick then I send her a message. Simple.

(When I am hungry then I pick a restaurant to go to and eat. Why would I want to entertain McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, and every other restaurant sending me messages every 5 minutes asking if I am ready to eat now?)

Matter of fact I think my shit is on blocked because people always say well I do not know when you are online. What difference does that make? You send a message and someone answers when they are available; just like any other form of communication. As far as I know I am always online, except when I am in an airplane that may not have internet. Other than that, I don't know how to be not online in whatsapp.

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man;2363839]I am now conversing with my favorite Tinder chica but I get the feeling she has better offers. I am unable to schedule a time. Second favorite is still in the dark.
Whether the time I put into it was worth it still remains to be seen.[/QUOTE]Perfect example of why there is no need to do all the pre-planning for hookers. You don't know what the situation will be by the time you hit the ground. Hell, I have met broads in the daytime that were supposed to come later on and when time comes they are nowhere to be found. If you are talking about rounding chicks up for 3 months later then shit. After all those hours, days, weeks of planning you are back to square one. That shit is like herding cats. Best to just pop up on there and grab one as needed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363834]

Because I have 5 friends that are mongers in common with her. So of course she is a hooker.

.[/QUOTE]Well tell your 5 friends to give her a call. Because I'm about to block her even thought I might want to get around to her one day. Jajaja.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2363791]Hit this one up. She writes me a couple times and day and just doesn't seem to understand that I'm busy with other women right now.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/majo.alvarezbarrios[/URL][/QUOTE]Was not 18 recently. I believe she tells people she is but is not. Perhaps she turned 18 recently but beware.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363620]From the ample experiences of banging Medellin, which establishments in general have ya'll seen more Suicide-Girls working in?

Suicide Girl is a girl I define as having tons of tattoos and nice piercings. Preferably build like a bimbo. IMO, it doesn't get sexier than that.[/QUOTE]I know there was a well reviewed "mansion" regular whose name escapes me right now but she had a huge tattoo "Sweet Sensation" in script across her collarbone. I am sure someone here might chime in later. She was no-holes barred but was already charging a premium of 200 mil when the normal asking rate was 150 a few years ago. I can only assume that if she is still in the game that she would be in the 250-300 league.

Here are two classifieds that might float your boat. I found on a site that I started using this trip. I have simple needs so I have been pretty happy with the service I've received. Basically centro casa prices in better more comfortable facilities.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/valentina-tragona-culiona-apto-laureles-60000-mil-pesos-la-hora/13676093/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/pollita-tragona-hora-60-mil-pesos-arrechita-para-ti/14644961[/URL]

I have not gone with these chicas, good luck and report back!

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2363839]

Yesterday, I arranged a cita with my third-favorite Tinder match based on photos and conversations. Appointment is at 15:00 and she shows at 16:30 claiming babysitter problems. She is cute tiny chica and I ask to see her cedula. Turns out she is 21 next week but she could pass for younger through these old eyes. Unfortunately the birth of the baby caused some body damage. The session went well with the chica trusting me enough through time to engage in a very submissive sex act. I have not found many willing to do it. Maybe I just don't ask enough chicas to perform it. (Today I tried it again but the chica was not willing to give me full control.).[/QUOTE]Mind sharing what the submissive sex act was? If not, perhaps some clues?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363865] I have had whatsapp since it existed and never have I bothered to or would know how to look at anybody's status or know if someone's phone was dark.d.[/QUOTE]Mr. E go to privacy settings for Whatsapp, that will help you better understand what BBM was referring to. Also, I am assuming there are some Chicas who send you Whatsapp messages that you don't want anything to do with. They can be blocked as well under privacy settings.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2363807]Outside of MDE is still gold, although more people are migrating to places like Cali, which I'm keeping an eye on. I remember the fingerprint thing when I used to travel here as a visitor back in the day. I think a lot of people use ATMs now so that kind of stuff might not be much of an issue. The tourism thing can go both ways but it is definitely noticeable. I even see a lot of broke gringos trying to make money here by doing things like being street entertainers or posting everything related to MDE on Youtube in hopes of getting a following.[/QUOTE]I've been coming to Medellin now for 15 years. My next trip to Colombia will not be Medellin.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2363865]No idea what this even means brother. I have had whatsapp since it existed and never have I bothered to or would know how to look at anybody's status or know if someone's phone was dark. [/QUOTE]
I have a burner phone so I leave my privacy at the lowest level.

When you message with someone on Whatsapp chat, you will see check marks by the message.

If it is one grey check by your message it means the person has not received it yet. That is what I meant by the person being in the dark. Maybe offline is a better word.

If it is two checks and grey, the messsage has been received but the person has not read it yet.

If it is two checks and blue that means the person has read the message.

My whatsapp has 4 functions on top. Camera, Chats, Status and Calls. When you update your status and you are in a person's contact list, the person will see your status change.

You and I have different styles and it is okay. If I can't find anyone then I take a seven minute walk over to what I consider to be the best private apartment in Laureles. I always have another option.

My review will be short just like my trip. First time there and stayed at the Marriott which is not girl friendly. I knew that going in but I did not care. So I booked a separate air be and be to work out the issues with that. If you are curious the Marriott charges $175 to bring a girl in for the night!! I don't mind paying around 20 to 40 dollars but that's a little outrageous. Strip clubs were OK and the nights I went and there were always at least a couple of fine ass 9's or 10's. At Fase Dos I took one in for 210 K. My driver which I posted about it on the taxi section said that Isla was a little more but she said she knows some places that charge about half of that. I just simply did not have the time to hit every strip club in the city because I had many Tinder dates lined up. I had success with Tinder and Facebook. I met a fuckin nursing student chick 2 months before and we spent a lot of time together. She took me to the pharmacy because my fuckin back was acting up during this trip. Got some meds from the pharmacy and we went back to my room. She gave me the meds and then I ate her pussy while she sucked my dick for a while. I told her I would help her get her visa, sure.

Estilo Spa mentioned on here before was nearby and I checked that out one morning to start the trip. I had this one cute skinny chick give me a great massage (85 k) plus a he finish for an extra 45 k I believe. I had her with her clothes off and was fingering her while she jerked me. Her pussy was so tiny and sweet smelling. I asked her if we could fuck and she was down for some extra cash. I did not get that far though I busted a nut too quick. I need several hours between sessions so I was out.

Drove around el centro on Sunday but everything was closed down. We were looking for some casas on that day but no go.

Cell service used was verizon. The travel pass they offer ran me about 10 bucks a day while there. Unlimited everything you want. Good service as they use the local towers.

ATM's offered good exchage rates 3300 to 1 is what I got at 3 different ones.

I will end this rant by saying I am totally in love with this city. The people are super friendly, the food is great, and the fuckin women are amazing. And they actually will talk to you as well LOL. I didn't try picking up any local chicks on the street because of time constraints but I think I would have had luck from the short interactions I did have. Who knows though. Honestly I would get married if I lived there. I never once felt like I was in danger or any of that shit. Stay out of the high crime areas and you'll be alright. If the place looks sketchy, stay away simple as that. Use common sense and quit being paranoid. Enjoy yourselves.

Oh one more thing. The casinos I checked out in El Poblado were weak if you're used to Biloxi or Vegas style shit. It's a place to hang out for a little bit to kill time. I did not see any working girls there.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2364086]I will end this rant by saying I am totally in love with this city. The people are super friendly, the food is great, and the fuckin women are amazing. And they actually will talk to you as well LOL. I didn't try picking up any local chicks on the street because of time constraints but I think I would have had luck from the short interactions I did have. Who knows though. Honestly I would get married if I lived there. I never once felt like I was in danger or any of that shit. Stay out of the high crime areas and you'll be alright. If the place looks sketchy, stay away simple as that. Use common sense and quit being paranoid. Enjoy yourselves..[/QUOTE]I think next time you come back to Medellin and spend more time here, and sample more women, you will perhaps change your mind about getting married. It's kind of like an ice cream store here, at least for me. Why have vanilla everyday when you could have thirty one flavors. Sounds like you had a great time here, however next time find another place to stay where you can bring Chicas back.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2364024]Mind sharing what the submissive sex act was? If not, perhaps some clues?[/QUOTE]Here is a hint. Most chicas will not give up control.

[URL]https://bestsexpositions.com/face-fuck/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2364036]I've been coming to Medellin now for 15 years. My next trip to Colombia will not be Medellin.[/QUOTE]Hopefully Medellin has not lost it's luster for you. Hard to beat all around compared to other Cities in Colombia. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be going to other places though. The other Cities in Colombia are very interesting, especially the ones with no visible gringos or tourism. You can most definitely have a field day in these places if you have Spanish speaking skills.

So one thing I have never seen in Medellin before is a "midget hooker". Perhaps there are other board members here who have, and I am not talking about a very short Chica, but something you would see at the Circus. Well I saw one for the first time today in Cucuta in Parque Mercedes Abrego. So if this is something that might interest you, then you know where to go when you return to Colombia.

Looking forward to your upcoming posts where ever you land up next time in Colombia.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2362678]I am booked there this coming Thursday through Monday. When were your reservations? I haven't been notified about having to change or cancel my booking. Was it your impression that all of the M1 was closed, or just certain rooms?[/QUOTE]Its just room 109 at the mansion as far as I know.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2364168]Here is a hint. Most chicas will not give up control.

[URL]https://bestsexpositions.com/face-fuck/[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe there is some advanced shit involved that I am not aware of, but I have fucked plenty of chicks in the mouth and never considered it as something of being in control. I have also never had them say no you can't fuck my mouth.

I am not a guy that goes around with a list asking chicks if they will do this and the other. I am more of a go with the flow guy. There is really nothing special that I have to have. If I feel I want to try something with a chick at the time then I just initiate it and go from there. As the saying goes, it is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission. And it seems the guys that are trying to ask permission are the ones always being told no. Just do it; don't ask any questions.

Another funny thing is guys saying they don't like to negotiate the price because it ruins the mood, yet they have no problem negotiating the services. To me, going down a list of things you want a chick to do would be a mood ruiner (not to mention lead to mechanical service) much more than coming to an agreement on the price.

Which one of you guys did this? Didn't someone post about this in their report?

[URL]http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/140644[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2364334]Maybe there is some advanced shit involved that I am not aware of, but I have fucked plenty of chicks in the mouth and never considered it as something of being in control. I have also never had them say no you can't fuck my mouth.[/QUOTE]If you ever become curious about how body position affects the mind read some of the works of Wilheim Reich. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich[/URL] You probably can still take a class at Esalen Institute involving his principles. [URL]https://www.esalen.org/[/URL].

I probably showing my age. In early porn, a FF was very rare. I doubt you can find film of Annette Haven doing it. Now a days these things are quite common. It probably doesn't mean anything anymore.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2364261]Hopefully Medellin has not lost it's luster for you. Hard to beat all around compared to other Cities in Colombia. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be going to other places though. The other Cities in Colombia are very interesting, especially the ones with no visible gringos or tourism. You can most definitely have a field day in these places if you have Spanish speaking skills.

So one thing I have never seen in Medellin before is a "midget hooker". Perhaps there are other board members here who have, and I am not talking about a very short Chica, but something you would see at the Circus. Well I saw one for the first time today in Cucuta in Parque Mercedes Abrego. So if this is something that might interest you, then you know where to go when you return to Colombia.

Looking forward to your upcoming posts where ever you land up next time in Colombia.[/QUOTE]My previous mongering trip was April, May, June and July in Germany and I may have been totally spoilt by the beauties which I shagged there. Medellin cannot compare. My next mongering trip will be to Brazil in October, November and December. Early next year I plan a non / semi-mongering trip to the DR followed by the rest of the year in Asia.

I hope readers don't get me wrong, Medellin is still a better destination for our hobby than most others. I still have a few more weeks here and I'm enjoying my time. So I'm looking to return to Colombia in 2021. I've never been to parts of Colombia other than Medellin so that's overdue and I'm hoping to see that vertically-challenged working girl to which you referred in Cucuta.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2364525]My previous mongering trip was April, May, June and July in Germany and I may have been totally spoilt by the beauties which I shagged there. Medellin cannot compare. My next mongering trip will be to Brazil in October, November and December. Early next year I plan a non / semi-mongering trip to the DR followed by the rest of the year in Asia.

I hope readers don't get me wrong, Medellin is still a better destination for our hobby than most others. I still have a few more weeks here and I'm enjoying my time. So I'm looking to return to Colombia in 2021. I've never been to parts of Colombia other than Medellin so that's overdue and I'm hoping to see that vertically-challenged working girl to which you referred in Cucuta.[/QUOTE]Interesting as I was in Germany a few months ago, but being the budget fucker that I am it didn't really appeal to me and was expensive. Eighty Euros just to enter FKK Artemis in Berlin not including the girl fees. Prague was much better for me. Anyways hopefully the midget will be waiting for you when you return to Colombia.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2364523]If you ever become curious about how body position affects the mind read some of the works of Wilheim Reich. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich[/URL] You probably can still take a class at Esalen Institute involving his principles. [URL]https://www.esalen.org/[/URL]..[/QUOTE]This sounds like a class Mr. E would definitely be interested in. He could refine his face fucking techniques, and quote William Reich while doing so.

They are in it for the free meal and for the money only. Pretty sure if you think you will just have some free time and they won't expect $$ to come to dinner with you. You are mistaken. Just trying to help you before you are in a bad situation. Easiest thing is to just ask them what they expect. And get it over with

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2363640]I had conversations with two girls who were both stunners, 9. 5's, who's Facebook friends list is flush with the same gringos as many prepagos, yet these girls both tell me that they are not prepagos, and when I ask them if they want to meet up for dinner, they both said yes. I'm an older guy and not attractive to younger women. Who thinks these women are out to hustle me and if so, how would that go down? For example would these sirens spend the night and then nail me with a $1000 dollar tab in the morning?[/QUOTE].

From my experience the strip club girls are more mechanical and are clock watcher because time is money vs the FB etc girls that if they like you and feed them a few drinks at home they may just stick around for several hours,

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2363546]Aside from the deteriorating casa scene, if one pay a bit more but still lower than these fabled facebook hoes at places like Fase Dos, Las Islas, Luna Lunera, etc can I expect more quality? Whats the line-up there been like recently? I am ready to bang them with a condom and not expect BBJ or anal without I'd imagine at least double her high end price.

Ever consider trying to set up 3 some in a way where the main-star of the show is a 9. 7 from Las Islas that won't do anal or chupa sin condom then you pair it with a Botero-chick that would do both? Seems like something to actively seek, its like casting hoes for a porno.

But if all else fails, seems like online escorts in Medellin is a pretty sure bet. Catador-Colombia is like a goldmine of daily local reviews.[/QUOTE].

A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parker‘s stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl. I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]There are millions of mongers and a horny one is born every minute, so business is no problem. And besides that, not everyone thinks a turnoff is what you think a turnoff is. She could be just what the doctor ordered for some. For instance, if the doctor ordered me a chick with some silicone I would fucking shoot him. Other guys do not want a chick WITHOUT silicone.

Internet dating 101: ask for pictures without filters and without all those bullshit faces on it. That piszzes me off. I keep telling y'all not to fall for the okie doke. I never have complaints because I always ask for full body pictures with no makeup or pictues of when they just woke up in the morning. But a lot of guys want to do their shopping off photoshopped glamour shots.

P.S. Had you not been there, your wingman would have fucked her anyway. It is like the moped joke. You will have fun riding that mf until someone you know sees you on it.

Glad I read the posts here. This girl reached out to me about a year ago. I didn't take her up on her offer. At the time she did have some body shots and she looked good. The face was always a bit unclear. Now I think those pics were probably outdated based on this review. There are so many girls to choose from that if you have any doubts you should go on to the next one. Thanks for your post

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parkers stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (my friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]I have never done a FB girl because I am not on FB and have no desire to, however this is my take on the FB scene and what happened.

Your question is, how does she stay in business?

It may not be a business for her in the sense your thinking of.

I suspect being a FB girl is a part time job for a lot of them, (evenings / weekends) besides a regular job that they have. In other words it's just a an extra source of income for them being on FB.

So as an example, a FB girl lure's someone to have her come over for a session like your friend.

Maybe the guy does her, or doesn't want her, and the guy ends up paying her to leave usually out of fear that the girl may cause a fuss, go wacko, call the Police etc.

I am assuming your friend payed her the 200 K to leave in fear of an incident.

What you may not be aware of, is that 200 K is almost the equivalent of one weeks salary here in Colombia based on the minimum wage in this Country.

In other words, if your friend paid her the 200 K she can most probably live on that for a week.

So if you do the math, a girl can easily make enough money to live on if she lures enough customers in a month and gets paid what was agreed to or even a lesser amount.

My bet is the FB girl that lured your friend in was a part timer.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parkers stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]They stay in business because plenty of guys let the little head do the thinking.

1. Never set up a TLN with an unknown girl, without a very reliable, recent recommendation. It's much easier to change ST to TLN than to fake an illness. It's also cheaper, because after the first nut, her bargaining chip is gone.

2. Approach with caution any girl who never posts pictures on Facebook. They either have so many customers they don't have time, or they have something to hide.

3. Have a first meeting in public with anyone you're not certain of. Paying for a taxi and a beer is much cheaper than paying full price for someone you would never let in the door.

4. Avoid desperate girls. There's a reason why they don't have any customers.

That tells a someone else what to pay, but 330 is just stupid. I have no problems getting great FB girls for 200. But to add some advice to balance out (being one of those guys) I always ask to video conference with a chica I don't know before I set a Cita. Its built right into FB messenger. If they say their camera does work of they don't have sufficient network I just move on.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parkers stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2364935]That tells a someone else what to pay, but 330 is just stupid. I have no problems getting great FB girls for 200. But to add some advice to balance out (being one of those guys) I always ask to video conference with a chica I don't know before I set a Cita. Its built right into FB messenger. If they say their camera does work of they don't have sufficient network I just move on.[/QUOTE]I have never done a FB girl in Medellin or anywhere in all of Colombia for that matter, I never want or need to and 330 mil shit no fucking way unless it is for 24 hours or todo la noche at least. My overnight'rs and some of these lasting a full day or 2 and I usually pay 100 to 150 mil tops!

Boy we all have different sized wallets for sure.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2365009]I have never done a FB girl in Medellin or anywhere in all of Colombia for that matter, I never want or need to and 330 mil shit no fucking way unless it is for 24 hours or todo la noche at least. My overnight'rs and some of these lasting a full day or 2 and I usually pay 100 to 150 mil tops!

Boy we all have different sized wallets for sure.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]The fish is so fresh and a bargain in Centro, why would you pay $330 mil. BTW, I saw a dude in centro today, 7'1". I said no way can that be the tall man, but just maybe. I have two brothers who are 6'7" and this guy was much taller and I know a few 7 foot ball players personally, dude was easily 7'1". Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2365009]I have never done a FB girl in Medellin or anywhere in all of Colombia for that matter, I never want or need to and 330 mil shit no fucking way unless it is for 24 hours or todo la noche at least. My overnight'rs and some of these lasting a full day or 2 and I usually pay 100 to 150 mil tops!

Boy we all have different sized wallets for sure.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's about the size of our wallets, but more about how little the majority of the guys who use FB (and do not spend much time here) know what can really be had here and for how little.

For someone who isn't into the SW scene, and is coming down for a few weeks, I can see FB being a great way to set up a stable for when they arrive on the ground which can be developed over several trips here. And the FB girls know they can get say 200 K for a session from the FB gringos as that seems to be a benchmark number according to other posters.

I am with you on the ridiculous prices being paid for these FB girls and the contortions you have to go thru to vet a new FB girl. But for some guys that is how they roll, so while some of the FB posts are informative and helpful too the FB guys, I find them entertaining to say the least.

Neglected to say that the cop 330 for TLN: again a strange figure.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365085]I don't think it's about the size of our wallets, but more about how little the majority of the guys who use FB (and do not spend much time here) know what can really be had here and for how little.[/QUOTE]Right. It is about knowing the value of a peso in Colombia. To most of these FB guys 200K is only jacking off their weekly Starbucks money. But from my viewpoint, like you said before, 200K is a week's salary. When these cats think of it as being back home giving someone a week's salary, then their tune would more than likely change. Who would tell a chick back home to come over for a week's salary?

In addition, my girl in Cali lives with her family in a 3 bedroom apartment for 600K. How many guys would pay 1/3 of someone's rent for a few hours of attention if they thought of it that way? But unfortunately most think of it as being only $58 back home.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2365107]Neglected to say that the cop 330 for TLN: again a strange figure.[/QUOTE]Strange for you maybe because you are more in tune and think in pesos. But he could have been thinking in terms of 330,000 pesos as being an even $100.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parkers stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]LMFAO!!

That is a hilarious story. Jajaja.

I have no idea why someone would invite a chick over that didn't have pictures of themselves on their profile. And if she came over and you didn't like their looks why would you pay her anything. If I felt like part of the misunderstanding was my fault I can see offering her cabfare. But if I fell like she deliberately misrepresented herself, Wouldn't give her a dime.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365141]Right. It is about knowing the value of a peso in Colombia. To most of these FB guys 200K is only jacking off their weekly Starbucks money. But from my viewpoint, like you said before, 200K is a week's salary. When these cats think of it as being back home giving someone a week's salary, then their tune would more than likely change. Who would tell a chick back home to come over for a week's salary?

In addition, my girl in Cali lives with her family in a 3 bedroom apartment for 600K. How many guys would pay 1/3 of someone's rent for a few hours of attention if they thought of it that way? But unfortunately most think of it as being only $58 back home.[/QUOTE]The best information I can find says that the average Colombian earns a million COP a month, break that down if you work 23 days in a month taking off weekends then that is roughly 43,750 COP a day, so a couple or a few hours at 150 - 200 k and the chica is earning 3 - 4 times the average Colombian.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2365180]The best information I can find says that the average Colombian earns a million COP a month, break that down if you work 23 days in a month taking off weekends then that is roughly 43,750 COP a day, so a couple or a few hours at 150 - 200 k and the chica is earning 3 - 4 times the average Colombian.[/QUOTE]And even then, there is a range. I know a chick who works in a retail shop, and the owner pays her 100 mil a week. Pay is not very good there for regular work. And a lot of folks have to pool resources to make ends meet. I pay her 150 mil. And she does a reliably good job for me, But I am sure 100 mil would be enough too. If you are living there you can make all sorts of side deals.

My advice to anyone interested in TLN is to know and have sessioned with the girl before. TLN can prove to be a waste of money if you never sessioned with the girl before

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2365107]Neglected to say that the cop 330 for TLN: again a strange figure.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2365181]And even then, there is a range. I know a chick who works in a retail shop, and the owner pays her 100 mil a week. Pay is not very good there for regular work. And a lot of folks have to pool resources to make ends meet. I pay her 150 mil. And she does a reliably good job for me, But I am sure 100 mil would be enough too. If you are living there you can make all sorts of side deals.[/QUOTE]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for. The chicks are nice from what I can tell and besides putting out once or twice a day they keep the house clean and cook at times.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365233]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for. The chicks are nice from what I can tell and besides putting out once or twice a day they keep the house clean and cook at times.[/QUOTE]I know a gringo in Medellin that lives in a luxury Penthouse in Poblado. He has a girlfriend he only allows over on the weekends to play house with, dine out, drink, screw, anything he wants and pays her only 180 K for the weekend so that's about 720 K a month. The beauty of his situation is that besides having a weekend playmate, during the week he hit's the Casa's in town, can do some SW's if he wants, and has a stable of other girls on speed dial that he meets up with during the week. So many women available, why get saddled with just one.

I agree with you. Guys who visit or live in Medellin and run their lives through the lens of back home are the ones who get in situations that make you think "how could somebody get in that situation". It's important to be aware of the situation you are in. As soon as I read one of the frequent "well back home this would cost" or "no one would do that back home" rationalizations I prepare myself for the sad punchline that I know will come sooner or later. I say this to help others avoid the mistake, not to criticize anybody.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365141]Right. It is about knowing the value of a peso in Colombia. To most of these FB guys 200K is only jacking off their weekly Starbucks money. But from my viewpoint, like you said before, 200K is a week's salary. When these cats think of it as being back home giving someone a week's salary, then their tune would more than likely change. Who would tell a chick back home to come over for a week's salary?

In addition, my girl in Cali lives with her family in a 3 bedroom apartment for 600K. How many guys would pay 1/3 of someone's rent for a few hours of attention if they thought of it that way? But unfortunately most think of it as being only $58 back home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365085]I don't think it's about the size of our wallets, but more about how little the majority of the guys who use FB (and do not spend much time here) know what can really be had here and for how little.

For someone who isn't into the SW scene, and is coming down for a few weeks, I can see FB being a great way to set up a stable for when they arrive on the ground which can be developed over several trips here. And the FB girls know they can get say 200 K for a session from the FB gringos as that seems to be a benchmark number according to other posters.

I am with you on the ridiculous prices being paid for these FB girls and the contortions you have to go thru to vet a new FB girl. But for some guys that is how they roll, so while some of the FB posts are informative and helpful too the FB guys, I find them entertaining to say the least.[/QUOTE]For the most part, we're all paying the same price and going through the same contortions. It all depends on how you look at it.

I've taken guys to 4 different casas to find a girl they wanted. Spent 1. 5 hours looking to spend 50 k for 30 minutes. How often do you make multiple laps looking for the right SW? Then spend 30-40 k for 20-30 minutes? Guys will spend an hour in a strip club deciding on a 80 k for 30 minutes girl. Of course, if you're always in an area, you can improve the deals. But you still have to put in the work to find what you want.

Facebook isn't any different. You just have the option of putting in the work anytime and anywhere. You also don't have to repeat the work. With casas, strip clubs and SWs, every time you have to repeat the process, unless you call one from your stable. With Facebook I can check availability of almost 300 girls in a few seconds. In 10 minutes I can have 8 or 10 options, without putting on my shoes. Plus there's the option of pre-planning.

Perhaps the biggest advantage with Facebook, Facebook lets me know when new girls come on the scene. I get 20 new suggested friends a day and 5-10 girls seek me out each week. The girls on Facebook even alert me by tagging their friends.

New girl on the street, in a casa or strip club? You only know if you go and if she isn't busy.

Neither way is better. Everyone needs to find their own level.

After reading the posts about what goes on with the FB Chicas and the heavy vetting process necessary, this post is to let the FB guys know that there also can be a myriad of issues associated with the SW's in Medellin. So you are not alone in what I will call "drama" in the pursuit of our hobby.

Yesterday I was in El Centro and saw one of my regulars that I wanted to go with. I gave her the signal to go and she walked away. I caught up with her and she said I'm busy. I was perplexed by this as I have known her for over five years. I went back to where she normally hangs out to speak with her friend about this. I could barely understand what she said, but the long and short of it was, she was jealous because I was in El Centro the day before, and she was out, and I didn't take her, and apparently she saw me go with another Chica.

At this point I decided to make the rounds and find another one. That's the beauty of El Centro, there's no shortage of Chica's, especially with the all the Venezuelans who have arrived. After about twenty minutes my regular shows back up at her post. I walk up to her and made like I was crying and she starts laughing and up to the room we go. I buy her a Pilsner and it was like make up sex in the room!

So whether your a FB guy or a SW guy, there's always drama with these Chicas!

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365233]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for. The chicks are nice from what I can tell and besides putting out once or twice a day they keep the house clean and cook at times.[/QUOTE]I know one guy who was paying $1000 USD a month in Bangkok in 2005. That girl is still with him in 2019. I think you can verify that number through reading old reports on the Bangkok thread.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2365227]My advice to anyone interested in TLN is to know and have sessioned with the girl before. TLN can prove to be a waste of money if you never sessioned with the girl before

.[/QUOTE]Always always always try out a girl ST before committing to TLN. One of the most basic rules in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365085]I don't think it's about the size of our wallets, but more about how little the majority of the guys who use FB (and do not spend much time here) know what can really be had here and for how little.

For someone who isn't into the SW scene, and is coming down for a few weeks, I can see FB being a great way to set up a stable for when they arrive on the ground which can be developed over several trips here. And the FB girls know they can get say 200 K for a session from the FB gringos as that seems to be a benchmark number according to other posters.

I am with you on the ridiculous prices being paid for these FB girls and the contortions you have to go thru to vet a new FB girl. But for some guys that is how they roll, so while some of the FB posts are informative and helpful too the FB guys, I find them entertaining to say the least.[/QUOTE]The correlation to amount paid is not size of wallet but how long one has been doing this. The newer guys are so overjoyed with the availability of lovely pussy that they give the girl whatever she asks. The guys that have been doing this awhile start to appreciate how much they are paying in relation to how much the locals typically earn. They also begin to appreciate that it's not always wise to make it apparent how much money you have.

Most guys on here could probably pay every chica they bone a million pesos or more. But it would be incredibly stupid, for various reasons, to actually do so.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365341]

So whether your a FB guy or a SW guy, there's always drama with these Chicas![/QUOTE]How true, LOL.

All chicas, girls, garotas, etc.

The trick is not to engage in the drama, heating it up.

Like you did, let them cool down and relax a bit.

They almost always come back.

I know of two friends that got married and bought them to the USA.

The younger brother started by sending money to a girl in the Philippines. He went to see her the next year. She was getting married to an Australian.

He finally found one to marry. But, while in the USA She met a lawyer and dumped him, and she got the house.

The other brother got married, but grew tired of her and kept going back to the Philippines and get younger girls. While he left his wife home to take care of the house.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2365364]I know one guy who was paying $1000 USD a month in Bangkok in 2005. That girl is still with him in 2019. I think you can verify that number through reading old reports on the Bangkok thread.[/QUOTE]

Sorry this belongs in the Chit Chat Thread.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365233]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for. The chicks are nice from what I can tell and besides putting out once or twice a day they keep the house clean and cook at times.[/QUOTE]Paid how? Daily? Weekly? Paid via that amount worth of new clothes and hair appointments?

[QUOTE=Combo;2365373] The guys that have been doing this awhile start to appreciate how much they are paying in relation to how much the locals typically earn. They also begin to appreciate that it's not always wise to make it apparent how much money you have.
[/QUOTE]I agree it's always better to make believe 200+ is beyond the budget. But surely the guys saying they keep a girl for 24 hours at 100 k or some BS are not getting higher level girls. If so share some photos. I bet they look like average barrio chicas, at best.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2365415]Paid how? Daily? Weekly? Paid via that amount worth of new clothes and hair appointments?[/QUOTE]2 million cop monthly cash. Of course they live with you so I would imagine they will eat the food at home and unless you plan on leaving them at home with the dog then you will be paying for two every time you go out as well. I would say most guys can live with an 7 or 8 for under a grand a month in total out of pocket expenses.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2365428]I agree it's always better to make believe 200+ is beyond the budget. But surely the guys saying they keep a girl for 24 hours at 100 k or some BS are not getting higher level girls. If so share some photos. I bet they look like average barrio chicas, at best.[/QUOTE]There are beautiful women in town who come from and live in the lower level Strata 1 and 2 barrios such as Paris in Bello. I don't think you were implying that you could only find higher level Chicas in Strata level 6 areas like in Poblado.

I have noticed lots of guys on this board who seemed to be focused only on finding and going with Hotties which I am assuming is a higher end Chica. Yeah it's nice to be in the company of a smoking hot woman for sure, but can she suck cock, deep throat you, and perform like a gymnast. So once the lights are dimmed, how important is the Chicas face, unless your just into face fucking. The last I want to do is be with is a Chica with lots of rules and a shitty attitude. I think some of the Hotties think their shit doesn't smell and get away with minimal performances because they know the guys they go with are so enamored with their appearance.

I'm not dishing anyone here as everybody rolls different. But I think most guys on this board don't want to go with a Chica who provides a lackluster experience.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365447]2 million cop monthly cash. Of course they live with you so I would imagine they will eat the food at home and unless you plan on leaving them at home with the dog then you will be paying for two every time you go out as well. I would say most guys can live with an 7 or 8 for under a grand a month in total out of pocket expenses.[/QUOTE]A grand a month here is four times the minimum monthly salary in Colombia. I am amazed at how many 7's and 8"s I see working at jobs that pay the minimum wage here. My point is you could probably easily get two for that matter if you had like a big Penthouse with at least three bedrooms. You could put them up in separate bedrooms and summon either or both of them to the Master Suite when you wanted. My bet is there is probably at least one gringo here doing this.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365469]A grand a month here is four times the minimum monthly salary in Colombia. I am amazed at how many 7's and 8"s I see working at jobs that pay the minimum wage here. My point is you could probably easily get two for that matter if you had like a big Penthouse with at least three bedrooms. You could put them up in separate bedrooms and summon either or both of them to the Master Suite when you wanted. My bet is there is probably at least one gringo here doing this.[/QUOTE]Well I'd like to meet they guy that can get a 2 or more 7 and 8's to live with them full time for close to minimum wage.

Could be my idea of what a 7 or 8 is might be a little different than yours.

I saw an 8 working as a waitress in a bar on la sexta in Cali once.

She was stopping traffic. The girls wore cowboy hats and chaps.

I went to the bar the day after I saw her and she didn't work there anymore.

I asked the bartender what happened to her and he said that some guy came in and started talking to her and she just quit and left with him.

When it comes to hot chicks (without kids) gringos are not the only game in town that is for sure.

Plenty of gringos here just end up living with pretty hot chicks just because they don't mine taking care of another man's children

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365233]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for.[/QUOTE]Different strokes for different folks, but this whole thing seems weird to me. Are your friends that hideous that they have to offer chicks free room and board AND pay them an exorbitant amount of money? Damn near every chick I know would jump at the chance to go stay somewhere they did not have to pay rent and would not ask for an additional payment.

Everybody has a different purpose, but the top reason that I monger is for the variety. I am not about to pay some chick 2 million pesos so that I can eat the same crackers everyday. I pay chicks so that when I am tired of them they can take their ass home and I can have my own space. It seems your buddies have the game crossed up.

P. S. A good experiment would be for them to not pay the chicks for a couple of months and see if they move out. I am willing to bet that those broads would stay their asses right there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2365332]I've taken guys to 4 different casas to find a girl they wanted. Spent 1. 5 hours looking to spend 50 k for 30 minutes. How often do you make multiple laps looking for the right SW? Then spend 30-40 k for 20-30 minutes? Guys will spend an hour in a strip club deciding on a 80 k for 30 minutes girl. Of course, if you're always in an area, you can improve the deals. But you still have to put in the work to find what you want.

Facebook isn't any different.[/QUOTE]Facebook is a lot different. I don't think the issue of going around to different casas or strip clubs or SWs is because you can't find what you want. It is that there are so many options that you want to see what is at all of them before you decide. Kid in a candy store. When you do finally decide, you can pay your 40K and go in the back and have fun.

With a Facebook chick, all the while waiting for the chick you are anxious worrying if it will be a setup and you are going to get robbed. Then the chick finally shows up and is not what you expected, but she will not leave without a 200K severance fee. Meanwhile you could have taken that 200K that you used to not get pussy, and fucked all 5 chicks (together or separately) that work in the casa.

To me, seeing live and in person what you are paying less for beats hoping and praying for the success of what you are partially in the dark about but are paying more for anytime.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2365332]Perhaps the biggest advantage with Facebook, Facebook lets me know when new girls come on the scene.

New girl on the street, in a casa or strip club? You only know if you go and if she isn't busy.[/QUOTE]Hold on there. That would depend on how close you are with your casa. See I have a casa that lets me know when they have new chicks! LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2365332]Neither way is better. Everyone needs to find their own level.[/QUOTE]I primarily hunt nonpros online and hookers live and in person. That is not to say that if I came across a nonpro live or a hooker online, that I would not strike.

[QUOTE=Combo;2365373]Always always always try out a girl ST before committing to TLN. One of the most basic rules in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Depends. Since I am in it for the variety, I am hardly ever going to fuck the same hooker twice. So I am not really trying to do any STs before LTs. That ship has sailed and I have moved on to try another one.

When I negotiate, I offer the same (or a tad more) for LT that most guys are giving for ST. So there would be no advantage for me to do a ST first or disadvantage in doing the LT first.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365520]Different strokes for different folks, but this whole thing seems weird to me. Are your friends that hideous that they have to offer chicks free room and board AND pay them an exorbitant amount of money? Damn near every chick I know would jump at the chance to go stay somewhere they did not have to pay rent and would not ask for an additional payment.

Everybody has a different purpose, but the top reason that I monger is for the variety. I am not about to pay some chick 2 million pesos so that I can eat the same crackers everyday. I pay chicks so that when I am tired of them they can take their ass home and I can have my own space. It seems your buddies have the game crossed up.

P. S. A good experiment would be for them to not pay the chicks for a couple of months and see if they move out. I am willing to bet that those broads would stay their asses right there.[/QUOTE]Yeah the guys aren't none to attractive, When guys are young and good looking they don't have to pay. But we knew that already. I'm sure anybody could get girls to live with them if the chicks didn't have to pay rent. But the part about fucking them everyday and spending all their free time with them is where I think it gets a little complicated. LOL!

Of course if they weren't paying the chicks anything they would leave or if the guys didn't care about getting sex on a regular basis they might stay for the free room and board.

I wish I had some pics to show. Just how ugly the guys are so you could compare them to how hot the chicks are but I don't have fotos of the couples in question. Jajaja.

But trust me is is quite a mismatch and don't think the chicks are really getting a bargain considering they are with these guys day in and day out.

I think that variety is a good thing myself. I know that I enjoy it. But these guys that go for the paid live in GFE are probably the same guys that have a hard time finding a GFE with just any chick and when they do find it they want to hang on to it. Or maybe they just value the relationship with the chick aside from the sex.

But if I know 2 gringos that are doing it then there are probably hundreds of gringos doing this weird sexually depraved shit. Of paying prepagos to live with them. Jajaja Why don't they just pay extra for anal and be done with it. Instead of having to deal the the ***** every hour of every day. LOL.

My experience is Brazil, UK, Germany, Japan etc. I cannot believe the prices you guys are quoting. You don't know how good you have it. My jaw is literally on the floor. Maybe I will just move there!

I totally get the guys with the paid live in girls. Having a girlfriend is great. Till she starts taking u for granted and not having sex with you. Having a PAID girlfriend eliminates these pesky problems. And at those prices? That one month with a Colombia chick is one hour with a girl in NYC! Wow. Sooo lucky.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2365536]My experience is Brazil, UK, Germany, Japan etc. I cannot believe the prices you guys are quoting. You don't know how good you have it. My jaw is literally on the floor. Maybe I will just move there!

I totally get the guys with the paid live in girls. Having a girlfriend is great. Till she starts taking u for granted and not having sex with you. Having a PAID girlfriend eliminates these pesky problems. And at those prices? That one month with a Colombia chick is one hour with a girl in NYC! Wow. Sooo lucky.[/QUOTE]This chick doesn't live with her old gringo boyfriend anymore but this is what it looks like for the uninitiated.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365526]Facebook is a lot different. I don't think the issue of going around to different casas or strip clubs or SWs is because you can't find what you want. It is that there are so many options that you want to see what is at all of them before you decide. Kid in a candy store. When you do finally decide, you can pay your 40K and go in the back and have fun.[/QUOTE]Not really that different. First time guys are usually fine at the first casa. Experienced guys are more jaded. How often do guys complain that the casas used to have 8's and 9's, but now have 6's and 7's? With Facebook, instead of walking (except for the guys who are taking a taxi 2 blocks to the next casa) you're sitting at home making a choice.

[QUOTE]With a Facebook chick, all the while waiting for the chick you are anxious worrying if it will be a setup and you are going to get robbed. Then the chick finally shows up and is not what you expected, but she will not leave without a 200K severance fee. Meanwhile you could have taken that 200K that you used to not get pussy, and fucked all 5 chicks (together or separately) that work in the casa. [/QUOTE]I never experienced that anxiety and only once got the "not what I expected. " Never paid a 200 k rejection fee either. I did pay 20 k for a taxi when she showed up too late. Never let her get out of the taxi. The "not what I expected girl" was someone I'd been with twice before. Her FB pics were old and I didn't recognize her. She was excellent in bed, but not my favorite body type.

Getting robbed is a low risk for me. I do my research. If I can't learn anything about the girl, I pass. She never comes directly to my door. At most just to my building. Often I'll meet at a mall or bar.

As for the wait. I'm not a 5 girl in 2 hours guy. Maybe 40 years ago, but now 2 a day is more than enough. My citas are usually set up 2-3 days before and confirmed the day before. The long waits are typically when someone tries to set up a date with short notice. Mine are typically less than 30 minutes late. And I've kept almost every one for 2 hours or more.

[QUOTE]To me, seeing live and in person what you are paying less for beats hoping and praying for the success of what you are partially in the dark about but are paying more for anytime.[/QUOTE]To me, getting an impression about the girl, having a reasonable conversation and getting a feel for a girl's personality, beats looking at a girl for 3 seconds, while trying to remember her name, then deciding if she's going to perform better than the 2 others you liked. Yes, she'll be cheaper, but will it be a better experience? I can only think of 2 casa experiences that equaled or exceeded my average Facebook experience. Both were at Energy, so the savings was minimal. And 1 of those had fake tits, which I don't like. However, her performance was easily top 5.

[QUOTE]Hold on there. That would depend on how close you are with your casa. See I have a casa that lets me know when they have new chicks! LOL.[/QUOTE]I knew that would come up. I'm sure there are a few guys who also get notified about new SWs too. I knew a guy who got updates from a casa almost daily. But he spent about 20 hours a week there. It's not something the typical monger is getting.

[QUOTE]I primarily hunt nonpros online and hookers live and in person. That is not to say that if I came across a nonpro live or a hooker online, that I would not strike.[/QUOTE]I'm just the opposite. I look for non-pros in person and hookers online.

It's all about finding what works for you. I know guys who love pulling from the street, guys who hang at the strip clubs, guys who only do casas, guys who only stay at the Mansion, guys who only do Facebook and guys who only do the real models off of Instagram (every girl on Instagram thinks she's a model). Each has advantages and disadvantages.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365535]Yeah the guys aren't none to attractive, When guys are young and good looking they don't have to pay. But we knew that already. I'm sure anybody could get girls to live with them if the chicks didn't have to pay rent. But the part about fucking them everyday and spending all their free time with them is where I think it gets a little complicated. LOL!

Of course if they weren't paying the chicks anything they would leave or if the guys didn't care about getting sex on a regular basis they might stay for the free room and board.

I wish I had some pics to show. Just how ugly the guys are so you could compare them to how hot the chicks are but I don't have fotos of the couples in question. Jajaja.

But trust me is is quite a mismatch and don't think the chicks are really getting a bargain considering they are with these guys day in and day out.

I think that variety is a good thing myself. I know that I enjoy it. But these guys that go for the paid live in GFE are probably the same guys that have a hard time finding a GFE with just any chick and when they do find it they want to hang on to it. Or maybe they just value the relationship with the chick aside from the sex..[/QUOTE]I put myself in the category of valuing a relationship with one special Chica on a part time basis, besides having a stable of other Chicas for all the variety. That's my situation here in Colombia when I am here. One special Chica to spend weekends with, and during the week I ride several ponies!

I don't understand why a guy would want a full time live-in girlfriend here with all the baggage that would go with it when there are so many women available.

That guy always attracts attention, for obvious reasons. I've never spoken to him or asked if he is The tall man. I do notice he chats up the Venezuelans a lot. Another random Centro note from a Centro rat. A vegan protest group had a few really nice girls among them. When one of the pierced and scruffy anarchist wannabe guys in the group noticed me scoping out one of the nicer ones and taking pictures he started waving a big Colombian flag with the group's logo on it in front of me to block me. Haters going to hate LOL!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2365070]The fish is so fresh and a bargain in Centro, why would you pay $330 mil. BTW, I saw a dude in centro today, 7'1". I said no way can that be the tall man, but just maybe. I have two brothers who are 6'7" and this guy was much taller and I know a few 7 foot ball players personally, dude was easily 7'1". Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]

I would do that in Indonesia were the girls are much more honest. In Medellin I doubt I'd ever trust a Puta enough to let her that deep into my life.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365233]I know some gringos that live in Medellin and have very hot live in girlfriends that they pay about 2 million a month for. The chicks are nice from what I can tell and besides putting out once or twice a day they keep the house clean and cook at times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2365459]There are beautiful women in town who come from and live in the lower level Strata 1 and 2 barrios such as Paris in Bello. I don't think you were implying that you could only find higher level Chicas in Strata level 6 areas like in Poblado.
[/QUOTE]Barrio girls are often sweet. That's true. And thanks to them we have an endless supply of available companions. What's missing from some of these "reports" is context and that was my point. If I get one girl to come around and spend a day with me because I paid well recently or planning something with her that's of extreme value to her then I tell you "I get girls that stay with me for days for free" I'm essentially deceiving you. If I take her and her to a finca because it's her birthday and pay her nothing extra then tell you I get girls to live with me for free I'm essentially deceiving you. Many of us have a number of regular girls that don't want money but also are not standard facebook prostitutes. They are willing to do things for the experience and would be insulted if we offered to exchange sex for money directly. I think you can probably tell when some of these reports don't add up.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365447]2 million cop monthly cash. Of course they live with you so I would imagine they will eat the food at home and unless you plan on leaving them at home with the dog then you will be paying for two every time you go out as well. I would say most guys can live with an 7 or 8 for under a grand a month in total out of pocket expenses.[/QUOTE]After a few days, I would imagine the typical guy is going to get awful tired of having this girl around him. While I love boning hot-looking women, I can't hang around a chick for an extended period of time without having something in common with her intellectually. The girl's got to have something to offer beyond good looks after a while.

Isn't that the great thing about our hobby? Spend a few hours boning and partying and then have her leave you alone.

[QUOTE=Olvjuse;2362955]Question from a rookie on the international scene. How would you rank the countries you've been to in regards to cost and quality? I've only been to Thailand and I'm curious how other countries rank. Thanks![/QUOTE]The service was OK in Germany, but you can find some best FKK clubs that are safe, organized and are not so expensive. But the experience is very limited here just to these clubs. In Thailand as you might already know, there are different ways to enjoy this hobby. Soapy massages, street scene, clubs, pattaya soi 6 etc. , it's also very organized in Thailand, Pattaya especially. But the girls are not so hot in my opinion. Now China and India and totally different ball game. You have to know where exactly to go as it's not very organized here and some times not so safe as well. But the worst thing that can happen in both these countries is you can get robbed. I got robbed in India and cheated in China few times. So it's not for everyone. In both these countries I found some gems. You get treated like a king in Chinese brothels.

I find Medellin is the best experience so far in my opinion. I visited Medellin only once so far but I got value for money, service, gorgeous girls, choice etc, in Medellin. Only thing is, you got to be little careful here. In fact you have to be careful every where except Europe if you are into this hobby. Now the last thing I would like to say is about Indonesia. My friends always tell me, that once you go to Indonesia you will forget everything else. I am still waiting to experience this.

Being notified by casas that there are new chicas is a total waste of the casa's and your time. Every time I go to a casa there are always different chicas there who were not there on my previous visit. There are continual rotations in all casas.

[QUOTE=Combo;2365748]After a few days, I would imagine the typical guy is going to get awful tired of having this girl around him. While I love boning hot-looking women, I can't hang around a chick for an extended period of time without having something in common with her intellectually. The girl's got to have something to offer beyond good looks after a while.

Isn't that the great thing about our hobby? Spend a few hours boning and partying and then have her leave you alone.[/QUOTE]I haven't done a poll to know if the typical guy can't stand to have a girl around him that he likes for more than a few days. But I fo know that there are guys that do get attached to women and enjoy their company for long periods of time. I think guys should do whatever it is that they like to do here.

And the point I was trying to make by bringing up guys that wife up with a prepago. Is that you can do anything you want here. And I would add that just because you are living with a prepago here doesn't mean you can't fuck other chicks. Shit make her hold the camera if you want. LOL! And forget the made up rules!

Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2365782]Being notified by casas that there are new chicas is a total waste of the casa's and your time. Every time I go to a casa there are always different chicas there who were not there on my previous visit. There are continual rotations in all casas.[/QUOTE]Not true at all.

I've got places in Rio that let me know when a newbie has arrived that is exactly my type.

Not a waste a time at all, just the opposite.

Trip Report.

September 1st 2019.

I've been getting my 10 miles a day in and probably eating once a day or snacking very lightly. I hooked up with Nounce, Almotu, and Trifreak. Trifeak is like me, nearly the same age and we both are latinos, so the language barrier is no problem. I finally convinced him to come to Centro and hang out with me and man, he was here by 9 am on Saturday. I had been awake since 4:30 am and had already put in 5 miles walking around Centro. I have been to Parque Botero every day from 2 am to 6 am, just watching the line up and seeing how things really go down with most of the girls in the park. So I met up with Trifreak and we grabbed a seat in the park to see all of the girls who were arriving late, yes at 9 am, if the girl is just arriving, then she is late. Trifreak was no joke, he did not hesitate, he saw a girl and I went directly to her and asked her how much for Rato and boom they were off to the races. He played with her for about 45 minutes and returned, I had always wanted to bang that chic, but he beat me to her and said she was the great and had a phenomenal asset.

When Trifreak returned we sat around in the Park, then I took him on one of my routine walk areas to show him how important Carrera 52 is to Parque Botero. By the time we made it back, which was 30 minutes later, the 18 year old had started to line up and trust me, I know which ones are the 18 year olds. I gave Trifreak my word that the girls were 18 yrs old, otherwise the Tourist Police would run them out of the Park. They are checking Passports and Cedulas like crazy. Just as I was telling Trifreak how the older sisters and family utilize the 18 yr olds to bring in pesos, he spotted one that he liked and boom, he was off to the races again. So I sat in the park and waited for him to return. Just like clockwork, 45 minutes later, Trifreak shows up and he tells me that she was awesome too.

We walked around a little more and we decided to eat something at this point, so we orders some beans and rice and roasted chicken. Trifreak, was telling me about this chic in the black, but I misunderstood who he was talking about. So we went back to the park and sat around and sure enough, the girl in the black showed up. I told him, that she was so fit, that I couldn't tell if she was a lesbian or what, because she hung around another chic that looked like her and they both had strange body language, so I did not know if the other chic was her partner, but I just observed. Sure enough, Trifreak landed a date with her and off to the races, he was gone again. 45 minutes later he shows up and tells me that she also had some good sex. Now I know, plus after a conversation with her, we came to the conclusion that the girl that looked like her, was her daughter. Strange but this is all I see in the park, girls working in teams to earn a living. The girl in the black, is part of a group of girls that hang together and meet up in the morning. So every chic that Trifreak dated are all part of a group of Vennies that I see every morning.

As for me, I got a group of sisters that come over and they date me together every day, not to mention the little chocolate diamond that I ran into. I have a few others that I am interested in and I still have 21 more days here, so I am in no hurry to pick anyone new, I just sit and watch and then I choose what appears to meet my liking. I really had fun with Trifreak in Park Botero, we both came to the conclusion that if you were raised in semi-rough neighborhood in the US, Parque Botero is no real threat. The girls are really lining up around 10 am and again at 5 pm, I have not found out why, but there is an increase of girls during the 10 am -11:30 am time then again from about 4:45 pm -6 pm time frame, I haven't found out why just yet, but I will. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]Wow. This is the first bad report about NL that I've seen. I've never been there but I will be on guard if I ever give them a chance. Thanks!

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365447]2 million cop monthly cash. Of course they live with you so I would imagine they will eat the food at home and unless you plan on leaving them at home with the dog then you will be paying for two every time you go out as well. I would say most guys can live with an 7 or 8 for under a grand a month in total out of pocket expenses.[/QUOTE]$1,000 per month? Goodbye, Thailand. Hello, Medellin!

[QUOTE=Lou32;2365877]$1,000 per month? Goodbye, Thailand. Hello, Medellin![/QUOTE]I'm here now but spend 3-5 months a year in Pattaya. Mongering in MDE is way cheaper! Food prices about what you'd pay at chunky monkey or cheap Charlie's if eating out at mid range local places. Beef much better here. I much prefer the Colombian people to the Thais. Said it before but you couldn't pay me to live with a Thai.

I still think if I was old enough for a Thai visa my ideal situation would be live in Thailand W a Filipina.

I guess I'm comparing 3 mongering trips to mde with years in Thailand so take it with a grain of salt. But I think I could live better in Thailand. Though I live on about 55 k there. If I had to live on $1000 and considering visas and such, I'm just not sure?

That's kinda why I'm here. Looking at an alternative to flying my ass back and forth to Thailand 4 times a year (x6 weeks).

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]3 k is less than a dollar, they could have been more professional though! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]If you ask me, its fucked up that you ignored the signs that there is a 3 k fee if you do not take a girl or buy a drink. Perhaps if you looked around, you wouldn't have been stopped.

This girl was great. Her name was Karla. Her WhatsApp is not longer active and I never added her on facebook. I don't think she was super regular at the mansion but I would love to find her new number or her facebook. If anyone can help it would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2365874]Trip Report.

September 1st 2019.

I've been getting my 10 miles a day in and probably eating once a day or snacking very lightly. I hooked up with Nounce, Almotu, and Trifreak. Trifeak is like me, nearly the same age and we both are latinos, so the language barrier is no problem. I finally convinced him to come to Centro and hang out with me and man, he was here by 9 am on Saturday. I had been awake since 4:30 am and had already put in 5 miles walking around Centro. I have been to Parque Botero every day from 2 am to 6 am, just watching the line up and seeing how things really go down with most of the girls in the park. So I met up with Trifreak and we grabbed a seat in the park to see all of the girls who were arriving late, yes at 9 am, if the girl is just arriving, then she is late. Trifreak was no joke, he did not hesitate, he saw a girl and I went directly to her and asked her how much for Rato and boom they were off to the races. He played with her for about 45 minutes and returned, I had always wanted to bang that chic, but he beat me to her and said she was the great and had a phenomenal asset.

When Trifreak returned we sat around in the Park, then I took him on one of my routine walk areas to show him how important Carrera 52 is to Parque Botero. By the time we made it back, which was 30 minutes later, the 18 year old had started to line up and trust me, I know which ones are the 18 year olds. I gave Trifreak my word that the girls were 18 yrs old, otherwise the Tourist Police would run them out of the Park. They are checking Passports and Cedulas like crazy. Just as I was telling Trifreak how the older sisters and family utilize the 18 yr olds to bring in pesos, he spotted one that he liked and boom, he was off to the races again. So I sat in the park and waited for him to return. Just like clockwork, 45 minutes later, Trifreak shows up and he tells me that she was awesome too.[/QUOTE]Did you go to centro from 2 am to 6 am and you find that to be good timing? Or during the day time, if so what timings are the best. What about Carrera 52 which is not clear any specific address can you give some exact location and details about Carrera 52 and any other places that you suggest.

[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;2365922]If you ask me, its fucked up that you ignored the signs that there is a 3 k fee if you do not take a girl or buy a drink. Perhaps if you looked around, you wouldn't have been stopped.[/QUOTE]Was escorted immediately into a booth, saw the lineup, picked a girl. We didn't agree on a price. Didn't see a sign, didn't try to duck out. Even spoke to the mamasan and thanked her as I was walking out. No mention of a fee till I was locked between 2 gates.

Yes I remember seeing a sign when there last year. Just not something I thought about or was asked for till locked between 2 gates.

My day in Botero plaza with the man Pollo Negro, finally put the FB girls on the back burner so I can hook up with my man Pollo. Glad I did, Pollo was some accommodating and hospitable, he's like the mayor out there everyone in the entire area knows him or of him it was really cool to see. First girl I landed Pollo took the lead showing me how to speak to them excetra. Being able to speak fluent Spanish I was able to close the deals with a few pointers from him from that point on. It took me 6 days to finally link up, a little bit of what was going on with me for the six days prior to my introduction to el Centro consisted of me running throw the must have FB girls on my list. I've been working on that list for the past 7 months. Hit all the must haves FB girls top on my list. My observation on FB girls, I've read on here how flakey they are and not punctual, not true in my opinion. Out of 14 girls two were an hour late the rest were right on time, in fact all of them would pin me down for a commitment asking me time and address 90% were right on time. Only was ghosted once, today. As far as the service mine my very a little bit being we can sit and talk have a few drinks get to know them music dance excetra before we get down to it, my experience with all were 1000% GFE no mechanical BS or clock watching had to mention a few times if they needed me to call a taxi. This was my first time in MDE. I will admit I over paid the first day for FB girls including the day I overpaid my avg FB girl payout was 200 mil all included taxi and or tip. Average session was 3 + hours, some were 200 mil for 6 hours with a few polvos in between and some were 1.5 hrs depending on chemistry. Average time spent was 3 plus hours, these girls are all about pleasing and pampering you. Loved it, overall my FB experience was similar to when I'd order Rappi to bring me OJ for the vodka. I would literally go down the list see who's on and set the time that easy. I don't know if FB is for everyone it might be a case of YMMV or maybe not. Conclusion if you like super hot attentive GFE Colombian girls FB is a good option. Can't speak on casa or Strip clubs as I got everything and more I wanted going the FB route. Now to the Centro experience, it was great absolutely the best bang for your buck (Pun intended) thing that stood out to me between FB and Centro out side of the price being 1/3 the price is having to work / hunt (Which I love) for the one that gives you that tingle down below. Another thing I noticed is Centro is more mechanical although they both are business transaction Centro is way more of a transaction. Keep in mind the transaction is the difference of eating or having a roof over your head vs a super horny young Colombian who doesn't mind kicking back some drinks, being the'ed down really good and most importantly making that $$ As far as pricing Centro has no equal and fellas you might get a quote much lower than 50 mil please don't be the dirt ball who tries and low ball on that. Keep in mind the difference is literally pennies on the dollar and the most important part that money puts food in babies mouths and roofs over their head. I was offer much, much less and I would start at 50 mil and up depending on chemistry service etc. My trip is coming to an end and I'm hating it. There's no doubt in my mind I'll call MDE home some day soon. Met really cool peeps and can call Pollo a good friend. Thank you sir. In the words of my boy Pollo. Trifreak out!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2365874]Trip Report.

September 1st 2019.

I've been getting my 10 miles a day in and probably eating once a day or snacking very lightly. I hooked up with Nounce, Almotu, and Trifreak. Trifeak is like me, nearly the same age and we both are latinos, so the language barrier is no problem. I finally convinced him to come to Centro and hang out with me and man, he was here by 9 am on Saturday. I had been awake since 4:30 am and had already put in 5 miles walking around Centro. I have been to Parque Botero every day from 2 am to 6 am, just watching the line up and seeing how things really go down with most of the girls in the park. So I met up with Trifreak and we grabbed a seat in the park to see all of the girls who were arriving late, yes at 9 am, if the girl is just arriving, then she is late. Trifreak was no joke, he did not hesitate, he saw a girl and I went directly to her and asked her how much for Rato and boom they were off to the races. He played with her for about 45 minutes and returned, I had always wanted to bang that chic, but he beat me to her and said she was the great and had a phenomenal asset.

When Trifreak returned we sat around in the Park, then I took him on one of my routine walk areas to show him how important Carrera 52 is to Parque Botero..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2363935]Was not 18 recently. I believe she tells people she is but is not. Perhaps she turned 18 recently but beware.[/QUOTE]Her Facebook "about" page says she turned 18 on 27th of July (Birthday says July 27, 2001) , but even I lie on my Facebook account about my birthday because I don't want the big data knowing everything about me. I will half jokingly say that maybe these girls need to post a link to their Cedula.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]3 k that's less then $1.00 LOL.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2365785]And I would add that just because you are living with a prepago here doesn't mean you can't fuck other chicks. Shit make her hold the camera if you want. LOL! And forget the made up rules![/QUOTE]I did that once in the Philippines. Chick brought another chick with her that did not want to fuck. I gave her the camera and told her she was going to do more in this room than take up space.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.[/QUOTE]You should be thanking your monger brothers that started that shit as well.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out. What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine.[/QUOTE]Common viewing fee in casas if you don't make a purchase.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2365877]$1,000 per month? Goodbye, Thailand. Hello, Medellin![/QUOTE]Huh? You know you can give a chick here in Thailand $300 for the same damn thing right? I was talking to a buddy the other day that was giving this chick a $100 retainer every month to come over and fuck and cook and clean whenever and as many times as he wanted. He showed me the picture and ended up being a chick that I used to fuck too. I had met her on tagged way back when.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365888]I'm here now but spend 3-5 months a year in Pattaya. Mongering in MDE is way cheaper! Food prices about what you'd pay at chunky monkey or cheap Charlie's if eating out at mid range local places.[/QUOTE]Hilarious because Chunky Monkey is where we were eating Wednesday when this story happened.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2365876]Wow. This is the first bad report about NL that I've seen. I've never been there but I will be on guard if I ever give them a chance. Thanks![/QUOTE]I think it is a misunderstanding. The gates are always locked. They will buzz you in and out. My experience is that upsell for BBBJ is common and the price is something can be negotiated.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2365995]I think it is a misunderstanding. The gates are always locked. They will buzz you in and out. My experience is that upsell for BBBJ is common and the price is something can be negotiated.[/QUOTE]I walked through the first gate. It locked behind me. Was then stuck between the gates reaching threw the outside gate to press the buzzer trying to get someone to get me out. Finally lady comes down demanding 3 k.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2364715]A wingman invited over a FB girl, Nicky Eusse, for a cop330 (That's a weird number). I was curious because she came up as a suggested friend couple months ago, so I wanted to see what she look like, because she only had one photo, her profile photo and it looks fake to me. After all, how many Colombian women have blue eyes? I asked my friend if he had any pics, because there weren't any on her page. He had a couple but he raced all but one, but the face was heavily filtered with that filter stuff to put on animal faces over your face. She comes over and yes, she had blue eyes, but she was short, shapeless, and she looks like the girl you were afraid would ask YOU to the senior prom, and would later grow up to be Sarah Jessica Parkers stunt double in sex and the city. Something about her facial symmetry was wrong. My friend had to fake a sudden illness, and try to get her to leave. He offered her Cops 100, but she insisted on 200, not even settling for 150. How does someone like this stay in the business?[/QUOTE]Hello!

I have never met her in person, so I don't know what she looks like, but on her fb profile are many pictures of her, including her face. The first ones are all with filter, but if you click them through, there are some without and she doesn't look bad on those. Did perhaps some other girl show up? Anyway, tough luck.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]The signs on the wall clearly state there is a 3 k viewing fee if you don't take a girl. You could have bought a beer instead and hung out to see if another girl was worth trying. It's a reasonable fee. Do you realize how many times a day the girls lineup and parade past guys who aren't going to pick?

You asked for something extra. The girl gave you a price. You could have asked for another lineup and chose another. Of course, she probably would ask the same amount for an extra service. That's reality in the casas. So many gringos insist on BBBJ the girls started charging for it. Apparently so many are willing to pay for it the price is 50 k.

Either pay the price, do without or get women from a source other than casas.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365888]I'm here now but spend 3-5 months a year in Pattaya. Mongering in MDE is way cheaper! Food prices about what you'd pay at chunky monkey or cheap Charlie's if eating out at mid range local places. Beef much better here. I much prefer the Colombian people to the Thais. Said it before but you couldn't pay me to live with a Thai.

I still think if I was old enough for a Thai visa my ideal situation would be live in Thailand W a Filipina.

I guess I'm comparing 3 mongering trips to mde with years in Thailand so take it with a grain of salt. But I think I could live better in Thailand. Though I live on about 55 k there. If I had to live on $1000 and considering visas and such, I'm just not sure?

That's kinda why I'm here. Looking at an alternative to flying my ass back and forth to Thailand 4 times a year (x6 weeks).[/QUOTE]If you take the time to learn the city, you can find reasonable, unfurnished apartments for 700-1,000 k. Under $300 per month. I was in a spacious 3 bed, 3.5 bath place for 1. 6 million, in an excellent neighborhood. Utilities run about 90 k. Another 180 k for cable and internet.

If you get away from the tourist areas, average meal price is about 9 k. If you cook you can cut that to about 4 k per meal.

That puts basic living expenses about 2.2 million, eating 3 x daily in restaurants. $640. Of course there's initial costs of furnishing the apartment, but still reasonable.

[QUOTE=Vaasusa;2365929]Did you go to centro from 2 am to 6 am and you find that to be good timing? Or during the day time, if so what timings are the best. What about Carrera 52 which is not clear any specific address can you give some exact location and details about Carrera 52 and any other places that you suggest.[/QUOTE]I would not be walking around El Centro between the hours of 2 AM and 6 AM. Not a good idea. However in my experience, the best time of day and location which I call "ground zero" is the intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 at around 4 PM in the afternoon. This location is adjacent to the Museum and well marked with a street sign. Within a five hundred to one thousand foot radius there will easily be a couple of hundred available women. And mostly Venezuelans at this location, whereas along the Veracruz Church and the back street mostly Colombians.

I left Poblado today from Calle 10 and the Poblado Metro Station at 6:30 AM and arrived at the Airport terminal at 7:00 AM. Only thirty minutes and there are actually two tunnels. The first one is about a kilometer long above Tesoro and after exiting you you drive a few miles on a long bridge constructed on the side of a mountain. You then come up to the toll booths and then enter the next tunnel which is 8 kilometers long and supposedly the longest in South America. The tunnel is open between the hours of 4:30 AM and 9:00 PM, so if you have flight departing after or before these hours plan accordingly. The route is so much nicer not having to wind around the side of the hills and dealing with so much traffic and very quick.

[QUOTE=TriFreak;2365963]My day in Botero plaza with the man Pollo Negro, finally put the FB girls on the back burner so I can hook up with my man Pollo. Glad I did, Pollo was some accommodating and hospitable, he's like the mayor out there everyone in the entire area knows him or of him it was really cool to see. First girl I landed Pollo took the lead showing me how to speak to them excetra. Being able to speak fluent Spanish I was able to close the deals with a few pointers from him from that point on. It took me 6 days to finally link up, a little bit of what was going on with me for the six days prior to my introduction to el Centro consisted of me running throw the must have FB girls on my list. I've been working on that list for the past 7 months. Hit all the must haves FB girls top on my list. My observation on FB girls, I've read on here how flakey they are and not punctual, not true in my opinion. Out of 14 girls two were an hour late the rest were right on time, in fact all of them would pin me down for a commitment asking me time and address 90% were right on time. Only was ghosted once, today. As far as the service mine my very a little bit being we can sit and talk have a few drinks get to know them music dance excetra before we get down to it, my experience with all were 1000% GFE no mechanical BS or clock watching had to mention a few times if they needed me to call a taxi. This was my first time in MDE. I will admit I over paid the first day for FB girls including the day I overpaid my avg FB girl payout was 200 mil all included taxi and or tip. Average session was 3 + hours, some were 200 mil for 6 hours with a few polvos in between and some were 1.5 hrs depending on chemistry. Average time spent was 3 plus hours, these girls are all about pleasing and pampering you. Loved it, overall my FB experience was similar to when I'd order Rappi to bring me OJ for the vodka. I would literally go down the list see who's on and set the time that easy.[/QUOTE]I think your comparisons and descriptions of the FB versus SW scene help to illustrate some of the differences between the two venues. However, for those that work the SW scene it can be much more than a "transaction" as you described it. Also suggesting to offer 50 K to the SW's is quite a bit when the majority of the SW's will go for between 20 K and 30 K.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366108]If you take the time to learn the city, you can find reasonable, unfurnished apartments for 700-1,000 k. Under $300 per month. I was in a spacious 3 bed, 3.5 bath place for 1. 6 million, in an excellent neighborhood. Utilities run about 90 k. Another 180 k for cable and internet.

If you get away from the tourist areas, average meal price is about 9 k. If you cook you can cut that to about 4 k per meal.

That puts basic living expenses about 2.2 million, eating 3 x daily in restaurants. $640. Of course there's initial costs of furnishing the apartment, but still reasonable.[/QUOTE]So the only complication for doing this might be where he can find somebody to rent from which won't require a Cedula, let alone being able to get utilities and Internet services without a Cedula or co-signer.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2365820]Not true at all.

I've got places in Rio that let me know when a newbie has arrived that is exactly my type.

Not a waste a time at all, just the opposite.[/QUOTE]Ok then lets agree that what is not a waste of time for you is a waste of time for me. BTW, you do know we are talking about Medellin.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]Baring a successful uprising by the FARC, this is the direction that things are trending in Medellin. Still anticipating an official two tier pricing system for locals and gringos at some point in the future. There are already examples of this in some other things around the city.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2365990]You should be thanking your monger brothers that started that shit as well.

[/QUOTE]I'm sure these clowns get their info directly from ISG.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Wn17QYhTkKg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2366151]Baring a successful uprising by the FARC, this is the direction that things are trending in Medellin. Still anticipating an official two tier pricing system for locals and gringos at some point in the future. There are already examples of this in some other things around the city.[/QUOTE]So in the Casa in question there was a sign stating that there was a requirement to either buy a drink or pay a viewing fee of 3 K. So this than only applied to foreigners and not locals? I am only aware of a two tier system of pricing that exists for entering some of the National Parks in Colombia, specifically Parque Tyrona. However, I have yet to encounter any businesses in Medellin that have a two tier system. Which ones are you aware of so members can avoid them if they want to. I hate the idea of being charged extra because I am not a local but unfortunately there are Colombians who will try to squeeze as much as they can out of the gringos.

A perfect example of this are all the Chicas we chase after!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366103]The signs on the wall clearly state there is a 3 k viewing fee if you don't take a girl. You could have bought a beer instead and hung out to see if another girl was worth trying. It's a reasonable fee. Do you realize how many times a day the girls lineup and parade past guys who aren't going to pick?[/QUOTE]Good info. I rarely drop by and did not know they charge. Its what, 85 cents? Hope they share it with the girls but I doubt, right?

Energy offers a drink (water) during your wait and if you don't take a girl they ask for 3 k.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366125] However in my experience, the best time of day and location which I call "ground zero" is the intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 at around 4 PM in the afternoon. This location is adjacent to the Museum and well marked with a street sign. Within a five hundred to one thousand foot radius there will easily be a couple of hundred available women. And mostly Venezuelans at this location, whereas along the Veracruz Church and the back street mostly Colombians.[/QUOTE]Good info. Why 4 pm? I would think they arrive in the morning and try to hustle a couple guys by 6 then go home. Sounds like a sea of women but I imagine most are average or worse.

[QUOTE=Lord Nashi;2366092]Hello!
I have never met her in person, so I don't know what she looks like, but on her fb profile are many pictures of her, including her face. The first ones are all with filter, but if you click them through, there are some without and she doesn't look bad on those. Did perhaps some other girl show up? Anyway, tough luck.[/QUOTE]I am also friends with her on FB and yes she has photos. Never saw any reason to meet her based on photos of her face. At the moment she has a video restricted to friends that shows her body.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2366206]Good info. Why 4 pm? I would think they arrive in the morning and try to hustle a couple guys by 6 then go home. Sounds like a sea of women but I imagine most are average or worse..[/QUOTE]They are out there starting as early as 8 AM but the most are out around 4 PM and you will have be patient and wait for the prettier ones to show up. More fuglies early morning but better ones later on in the day. I guess the better ones have to get their beauty rest!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366103]The signs on the wall clearly state there is a 3 k viewing fee if you don't take a girl. You could have bought a beer instead and hung out to see if another girl was worth trying. It's a reasonable fee. Do you realize how many times a day the girls lineup and parade past guys who aren't going to pick?

You asked for something extra. The girl gave you a price. You could have asked for another lineup and chose another. Of course, she probably would ask the same amount for an extra service. That's reality in the casas. So many gringos insist on BBBJ the girls started charging for it. Apparently so many are willing to pay for it the price is 50 k.[/QUOTE]Or she just doesn't want to do it. Hey, maybe her mouth hurts that day. Yea viewing fee is pretty standard in Medellin. Viewing fees are mentioned all over the forum.

Monday September 2, 2019.

After spending 12 days here so far, I can say this, even renting a hotel room near Centro for a month and current spending rates, I would not have a live in girlfriend if I resided in Medellin. It is so much cheaper to see about yourself in this country, it just is and there is no way around that. I must agree with JJBee62.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366108]If you take the time to learn the city, you can find reasonable, unfurnished apartments for 700-1,000 k. Under $300 per month. I was in a spacious 3 bed, 3.5 bath place for 1. 6 million, in an excellent neighborhood. Utilities run about 90 k. Another 180 k for cable and internet.If you get away from the tourist areas, average meal price is about 9 k. If you cook you can cut that to about 4 k per meal. That puts basic living expenses about 2.2 million, eating 3 x daily in restaurants. $640. Of course there's initial costs of furnishing the apartment, but still reasonable.[/QUOTE]Its extremely cheap to care for yourself. I have been her 12 days and barely spent $225 usd. If I was not dating chics daily, then I would be under spending the $225 usd that I have spent. You could easily live here for under a $1000 usd dollars a month, why in the world would you give a live in girlfriend that much money, you'the have to be in love or at the end of your rope. Too many beautiful chicas in Medellin to settle in with just one. I love the fact that I can enter into an exito shopping center and spend about $55,000 pesos and know that I don't have to leave home for food for about 4 days, that's insane. If you have an insanely high sex drive, about a $120,000 pesos daily will allow you to bang 3-4 chics in centro and that's still under a $1,000 usd a month. And that's nearly 120 chics a month. So you do the math, why waste $1000 usd on one chic when you can actually have 120 different chics for the same amount? Headed back to Parque Botero to hang out and learn any new tricks that the girls and guys may pull that I haven't seen yet. Pollo Negro is Out.

3 k is less than a dollar. What is the big deal?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2366212]Or she just doesn't want to do it. Hey, maybe her mouth hurts that day. Yea viewing fee is pretty standard in Medellin. Viewing fees are mentioned all over the forum.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366147]Ok then lets agree that what is not a waste of time for you is a waste of time for me. BTW, you do know we are talking about Medellin.[/QUOTE]Haha, great idea!

Oh ok Medellin, thanks, LOL.
The rules are completely different between Medellin and Rio.

You may just need to lighten up a bit, Francis 🤪

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2366227]3 k is less than a dollar.

.[/QUOTE]If we are going to think in terms of other currencies, it is also the equivalent of $19,341 Venezuelan Bolivars.

[QUOTE=TriFreak;2365963]My observation on FB girls, I've read on here how flakey they are and not punctual, not true in my opinion. Out of 14 girls two were an hour late the rest were right on time, in fact all of them would pin me down for a commitment asking me time and address 90% were right on time. Only was ghosted once, today. As far as the service mine my very a little bit being we can sit and talk have a few drinks get to know them music dance excetra before we get down to it, my experience with all were 1000% GFE no mechanical BS or clock watching had to mention a few times if they needed me to call a taxi. This was my first time in MDE. I will admit I over paid the first day for FB girls including the day I overpaid my avg FB girl payout was 200 mil all included taxi and or tip. Average session was 3 + hours, some were 200 mil for 6 hours with a few polvos in between and some were 1.5 hrs depending on chemistry. Average time spent was 3 plus hours, these girls are all about pleasing and pampering you. Loved it, overall my FB experience was similar to when I'd order Rappi to bring me OJ for the vodka. I would literally go down the list see who's on and set the time that easy. I don't know if FB is for everyone it might be a case of YMMV or maybe not. Conclusion if you like super hot attentive GFE Colombian girls FB is a good option. [/QUOTE]Having been here for two weeks, I have a different view of Facebook chicas. I think service has been uniformly good but I have had troubles with lateness and I am getting 75 to 90 minutes on average. Here are the factors that make a difference. 1) Is the chica full-time or part-time on Facebook? 2) Does the chica have children? 3) Do you speak fluent Spanish? 4) How old are you? 5) Are you drinking and smoking 420 with the chica? 6) How new is she to Facebook?

I would describe Facebook chicas as being attractive, pretty or cute, but not super hot. In my small sample, the best lookers have come from private apartment setups or agencies.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2366240]Haha, great idea!

Oh ok Medellin, thanks, LOL.
The rules are completely different between Medellin and Rio.

You may just need to lighten up a bit, Francis 🤪[/QUOTE]Errr, totally different Rocky as your experience in both cities would have shown you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366287]Errr, totally different Rocky as your experience in both cities would have shown you.[/QUOTE]Actually they're not.

A casa is a casa.

Same deal as the apartamentos in Rio.

New girls are new girls.

Same thing brotha, but whatever, keep doing your thing.

Peace. ✌️

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366125]I would not be walking around El Centro between the hours of 2 AM and 6 AM. Not a good idea. However in my experience, the best time of day and location which I call "ground zero" is the intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 at around 4 PM in the afternoon. This location is adjacent to the Museum and well marked with a street sign. Within a five hundred to one thousand foot radius there will easily be a couple of hundred available women. And mostly Venezuelans at this location, whereas along the Veracruz Church and the back street mostly Colombians.[/QUOTE]A picture is worth a 1000 palabras.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2366297]Actually they're not.

A casa is a casa.

Same deal as the apartamentos in Rio.

New girls are new girls.

Same thing brotha, but whatever, keep doing your thing.

Peace. ✌️[/QUOTE]When was your last visit to Medellin?

Its not a big deal. A candy bar is also about a dollar. But stores aren't just going to let you walk out with one. You're expected to pay for it. Did you even read the post?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2366227]3 k is less than a dollar. What is the big deal?

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What are you talking about? They stopped him from leaving because he didn't pay the equivalent of 85 cents to see the girls? Why shouldn't they stop him? They should and they did. What is your problem? Freaking. 85 cents dude What is wrong with you?
Just pay them
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2366313]Its not a big deal. A candy bar is also about a dollar. But stores aren't just going to let you walk out with one. You're expected to pay for it. Did you even read the post?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2365801]Fuck that place.

So I went to NL today. Picked a lady we talked. I asked for BJ no condom sex with. She asked an additional 50 k. Didn't agree, thanked her, thanked the mamasan on the way out. No big deal.

I try to walk out and they lock me between 2 cage doors. I'm stuck in there, can't get anybody to get me out. Finally the mamasan comes down and demands 3 k to let me out.

What a fucked up place. If you have a 3 k fee for trying to take a lady fine. But not asking for it upstairs and locking customer in a fucking cage demanding 3 k.

Crazy.[/QUOTE]You obviously had no beef with the 3 K (85 cents) viewing fee as you clearly stated. You also seemed to miss the sign that discloses the fee for those who do not purchase a drink, though I can see how someone could miss it on their first visit. Last I saw it it was on a piece of typing paper tacked at the top of one of the booths, pretty obvious but not in your face. You said you acknowledged the "mamasan" upstairs as you were leaving so you felt like she should have asked for the $ then. Makes sense if you're sure she heard you, but she isn't the "mamasan" but is an underling. The manager sites behind the pay window. Perhaps the underling was fine with letting it slide as I've seen a number of times before, but the top dog decided to lock you between the two exit / entry doors which amounts to a cage. Lolololol Now you know the process so you shouldn't have future issues.

If you ask a girl how much for BBBJ most will say 50 K, but most will take 30 K in a counter offer. This especially applies to casas outside of NL.

Isn't that what I said? He should pay. And they should stop him. And if he read the forums he would have known that. What about my post implies that I don't agree with you?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2366317]What are you talking about? They stopped him from leaving because he didn't pay the equivalent of 85 cents to see the girls? Why shouldn't they stop him? They should and they did. What is your problem? Freaking. 85 cents dude What is wrong with you?
Just pay them
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2366299]When was your last visit to Medellin?[/QUOTE]Well let's see, I've been going since about 1999 and my last visit was last week.

I should be back in about 10 days.

Heading to Rio tonite. 🤩

We’re cool man, te invito una cerveza tu próxima vez en Medellín.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2366344]Isn't that what I said? He should pay. And they should stop him. And if he read the forums he would have known that. What about my post implies that I don't agree with you?[/QUOTE]Yep, that's what you said!

Attacked for no reason.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2366346]Well let's see, I've been going since about 1999 and my last visit was last week.

I should be back in about 10 days.

Heading to Rio tonite. 🤩

Were cool man, te invito una cerveza tu prxima vez en Medelln.[/QUOTE]Nice life you have!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2365399]He finally found one to marry. But, while in the USA She met a lawyer and dumped him, and she got the house.[/QUOTE]Don't repeat these kinds of stories. It's not possible for somebody married for a short time would get a house.

[QUOTE=TriFreak;2365963]My day in Botero plaza with the man Pollo Negro, finally put the FB girls on the back burner so I can hook up with my man Pollo. Glad I did, Pollo was some accommodating and hospitable, he's like the mayor out there everyone in the entire area knows him or of him it was really cool to see. First girl I landed Pollo took the lead showing me how to speak to them excetra. Being able to speak fluent Spanish I was able to close the deals with a few pointers from him from that point on. It took me 6 days to finally link up, a little bit of what was going on with me for the six days prior to my introduction to el Centro consisted of me running throw the must have FB girls on my list. I've been working on that list for the past 7 months. Hit all the must haves FB girls top on my list. My observation on FB girls, I've read on here how flakey they are and not punctual, not true in my opinion. Out of 14 girls two were an hour late the rest were right on time, in fact all of them would pin me down for a commitment asking me time and address 90% were right on time. Only was ghosted once, today. As far as the service mine my very a little bit being we can sit and talk have a few drinks get to know them music dance excetra before we get down to it, my experience with all were 1000% GFE no mechanical BS or clock watching had to mention a few times if they needed me to call a taxi. This was my first time in MDE. I will admit I over paid the first day for FB girls including the day I overpaid my avg FB girl payout was 200 mil all included taxi and or tip. Average session was 3 + hours, some were 200 mil for 6 hours with a few polvos in between and some were 1.5 hrs depending on chemistry. Average time spent was 3 plus hours, these girls are all about pleasing and pampering you. Loved it, overall my FB experience was similar to when I'd order Rappi to bring me OJ for the vodka. I would literally go down the list see who's on and set the time that easy. I don't know if FB is for everyone it might be a case of YMMV or maybe not. Conclusion if you like super hot attentive GFE Colombian girls FB is a good option. Can't speak on casa or Strip clubs as I got everything and more I wanted going the FB route. Now to the Centro experience, it was great absolutely the best bang for your buck (Pun intended) thing that stood out to me between FB and Centro out side of the price being 1/3 the price is having to work / hunt (Which I love) for the one that gives you that tingle down below. Another thing I noticed is Centro is more mechanical although they both are business transaction Centro is way more of a transaction. Keep in mind the transaction is the difference of eating or having a roof over your head vs a super horny young Colombian who doesn't mind kicking back some drinks, being the'ed down really good and most importantly making that $$ As far as pricing Centro has no equal and fellas you might get a quote much lower than 50 mil please don't be the dirt ball who tries and low ball on that. Keep in mind the difference is literally pennies on the dollar and the most important part that money puts food in babies mouths and roofs over their head. I was offer much, much less and I would start at 50 mil and up depending on chemistry service etc. My trip is coming to an end and I'm hating it. There's no doubt in my mind I'll call MDE home some day soon. Met really cool peeps and can call Pollo a good friend. Thank you sir. In the words of my boy Pollo. Trifreak out![/QUOTE]Nice job reporting, for all the back a forth that we do on here, myself included, reports like this are the mother lode. I have some questions you might be able to help with. I have a substantial Facebook list myself. I have not decided how long I will stay in Medellin, I going to have about about 2 weeks in country and want to spend at least a few days in Cartagena, and maybe even fly up to santa Marta. My question about Facebook girls is are they usually willing to do citas at any time of the day? I Will want two on many days. My Question on Centro, and forgive me if this is in previous reports, do you always just use a love motel for a quicky or is it worth taking them back to the apartment sometimes?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366298]A picture is worth a 1000 palabras.[/QUOTE]For your next photo shoot in El Centro you should consider the following if you have the balls to do it. You could go down to the Veracruz Church and get a photo of the Transvestites that stand on the South / East corner of the Church. You would have to take the photo somehow without them knowing. If they noticed you, they would gang up and kick the shit out of you right on the spot and smash your phone and perhaps carve you up a bit. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't even contemplate doing this. They are a bunch of aggressive nasty dudes to be stayed away from. When I walk by this area I have no interaction with them, however sometimes I stand directly opposite from them on the other side of the walkway with the SW's looking at the talent walking up and down the walkway. Some of the Transvestites have some cute SW friends that they talk with probably gossiping about make-up or something like that.

You could also get some photo's of the glue sniffers (Sacaleros). What used to be "Sacalero Row" along the South side of the Museum used to have several zonked out Chicas huffing glue from small plastic bags, but the Police have cleaned that passageway up due to Tourism. But around three years ago before the Venezuelans showed up, there used to be some fucking hot glue sniffers lined up along there to be sampled, but those days are gone, maybe to return, or now exist in other parts of town unknown to me. Oh how things have changed at the Playground in El Centro. A shortage of hot glue sniffers and the invasion of the Venezuelans. What will be next.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2366284]Having been here for two weeks, I have a different view of Facebook chicas. I think service has been uniformly good but I have had troubles with lateness and I am getting 75 to 90 minutes on average. Here are the factors that make a difference. 1) Is the chica full-time or part-time on Facebook? 2) Does the chica have children? 3) Do you speak fluent Spanish? 4) How old are you? 5) Are you drinking and smoking 420 with the chica? 6) How new is she to Facebook?

I would describe Facebook chicas as being attractive, pretty or cute, but not super hot. In my small sample, the best lookers have come from private apartment setups or agencies.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insight. I've also had that experience with FB. A lot of GND types. But no real stunners. I've never really done the agencies. I'd be curious to know what apartment setups or agencies you might recommend? Much appreciated!

I have lived in Medellin for some time and should have posted this a while ago but better late than never.

Last Friday I went to two strip bars Barra Ejecutiva and Luna Lunera. Barra Ejecutiva is in el centro and is pretty cheap compared to clubs like fase dos. You don't pay to get in and half a bottle of rum is 80 k, not sure how much other drinks are but a small beer (called a costenita, just google it for an idea of what it looks like) and a double baileys are 15 k and 25 k when you buy them for the chicas. By comparison fase dos is 20 k to enter and 25 k for a beer for you and bottles start at around 150 k. Girls will come and talk to you in Barra Ejecutiva if you have a bottle and you can talk to a few and enjoy the girls dancing on the catwalk. Last year it was 80 k to go upstairs for half an hour but this seems to have increased to 90 k minimum with a couple of girls asking 100 k to 120 k. I like this place, its cheap and you can find a couple of really nice girls for decent prices, although it does get pretty busy and there aren't many gringos so it could be intimidating, but I like the vibe. If you want to see one outside they are all too keen to give you their whatsapp but they usually don't finish work until 4 am.

Luna Lunera is very different. It's 10 k to get in and the half bottles start at 100 k. Generally more girls will come over and talk to you hear but they are always asking for 25 k cocktails which is a bit annoying. Prices start at around 160 k for half an hour but the rooms are really clean and spacious. In general LunaLunera has a more intimate vibe and is a more relaxed place to hang out but it's not cheap. I know it's expensive but I have gringo friends who love the place for whatever reason, if it was up to me I would be happy hanging out in ejecutive.

I've lived here for just under a year so will add more reports just thought I would start with my most recent experience while it's fresh.

Hello,

It is my impression that quite a view girls who are in the business work out. Does somebody have a recommendation for a very fit girl (hardbody with abs showing)? Anyways, a nice day to all of you.

I think for the most part your assessment is spot on. The FB girls I mostly dealt with were regularly on FB (So FT). I don't smoke but I would have some drinks, let them Bluetooth their music into my speaker etc. Breaking the ice like that always made for a great experience. I think me being able to speak Spanish definitely helped my overall experience. As far as tardiness I experienced it twice about an hour late keep in mind though traffic at rush hour in MDE sucks, that said overall tardiness wasn't something I experienced as a whole. As far as how old etc I won't sit here and pretend YMMV depending on certain factors, like physical fit vs, age vs overall how attracted the girls are to you. That said COP all looks the same and I'd be kidding myself if I thought they're coming to see me because I'm gods gift. Dead on with the FB girls overall looks. Luckily didn't run into a catfish or 5 yr later versions of themselves LOL. I stuck to the ones who had really pretty none filtered pictures with my body type, spinner or petite. I know there's way hotter out there. The FB girls I saw ranged from 5 to 8 which is so subjective. I like the suicide look, that' might not be your thing, 3 and 4's for someone who doesn't like tats. Also my experience with a girl who know knows she's hot, 9 x out of 10 you won't get much from them as far as service. Speaking of services I found FB girls were great catering to my needs and wants.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2366284]Having been here for two weeks, I have a different view of Facebook chicas. I think service has been uniformly good but I have had troubles with lateness and I am getting 75 to 90 minutes on average. Here are the factors that make a difference. 1) Is the chica full-time or part-time on Facebook? 2) Does the chica have children? 3) Do you speak fluent Spanish? 4) How old are you? 5) Are you drinking and smoking 420 with the chica? 6) How new is she to Facebook?

I would describe Facebook chicas as being attractive, pretty or cute, but not super hot. In my small sample, the best lookers have come from private apartment setups or agencies.[/QUOTE]

Couple things I think it's safe to say everyone's experience isn't going to be the same for various factors YMMV from the chicas perspective etc. I mentioned it being a business transaction because it is, whether it's a FB girl I connected with and even came over for half the price the few more times I saw her it was still a transaction we enjoyed each other yes but at the end I gave her money and she left. I feel that's a business transaction it didn't in anyway take away from our passion etc. I feel in Centro for the most part the transaction is a little stronger, its hay watch my baby while I go catch this lick real quick. Just how I see it from my eyes. That said are there other situations, sure not all are the same. As far as me suggesting board members become captain save a hoe and making it rain on them no. My point was I was quoted 25 to 30 I've heard of guys negotiating for even lower. We're talking the difference of dollars really? I will say this I don't respect the guy negotiating a chica from 30 to 15 don't really want to be around that type of person because we have nothing in common. Suggesting 50 k after being quoted 30 mil if it came out like that not my intention we're all big boys and do what we want. ME personally I gave them 50 mil off the rip after being told 25/30 all of them gave me very enthusiastic BBBJ was it the extra 20 mil maybe, maybe not either way I was happy she was happy everyone happy. Most these chicas living situation is horrible if I over pay in the eyes of some that's fine by me why because 20 or 30 mil mean nothing to me and the world to them. I'm by no means rich or well off but I'm also not sweating the extra $6/$8 either. Again my opinion someone who thinks no way I could never that's your opinion, great we see things differently, cool.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366136]I think your comparisons and descriptions of the FB versus SW scene help to illustrate some of the differences between the two venues. However, for those that work the SW scene it can be much more than a "transaction" as you described it. Also suggesting to offer 50 K to the SW's is quite a bit when the majority of the SW's will go for between 20 K and 30 K.[/QUOTE]

Home now after my cherry four-day trip to Medellin. Had an amazing time, thanks to PolloNegro, SallySally, Zhagolo52, JjBee62, Guido88, TriFreak, Husker Dude, KilledSoul, BlueBudgie, and others who gave guidance, encouragement, and intel. What I did right I learned from them. What I messed up was my own fault. Here's a report of the proceedings.

Prep.

I started getting ready for this trip back in April. Read two years of ISG posts and made notes re the FB chicas who interested me. Created a Facebook page and sent out friend requests. Occasionally "liked" posts by some of the women, but didn't chat or post much. Eventually I began receiving friend requests from other Medellin chicas. Threesomes and anal are my thing, so I was alert to posts from women that indicated they might be down for one or the other. Kept a running list of the ones with potential.

You don't have to start five months ahead of time like I did. One thing I've learned from this board: everyone has different tastes, kinks, and style. This is not The Right Way to take a trip to Medellin; it's just my way. I enjoy planning trips and building the anticipation. That's part of my fun--it keeps me happily hopeful when getaways are impossible. But recently I've seen some chicas posting warnings about men with recently-created FB pages, so maybe starting early made women more open to seeing me when the time came? Who knows.

Two weeks before my trip, I posted my travel plans and was hey-babied by numerous private messages offering transactional intimacy. Some were from women at the top of my list. Others were from women whose Facebook pages didn't suggest that they were DTF, but who impressed me with their persistence. I added some of them to my list, figuring that an unreviewed woman who enthusiastically offered herself might be more fun than a popular one with a blas attitude. That calculation worked well for me. I was very clear in my messages about what I wanted, specifically mentioning anal and / or trios.

Session 1: Valentina and Dayana at the Hotel M (a / k / a The Mansion).

Touched down at MDE at 10:30 pm. Driver from The Hotel M ([URL]http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL]), where I'the booked one night, was there to pick me up. By the time we got there is was a little before midnight. Dumped my luggage and headed toward the sound of a party going on. Found fifty people packed into the bar and the adjacent sitting room: 65% women, 35% men. I liked those odds and the general vibe was absolutely off the hook. Bellied up to the bar. A hot girl wearing only a red thong bikini bottom pulled up behind and "accidentally" rubbed her bare chest against my arm. Tingle. I grabbed a Club Colombia, turned around, and a cute short chica in white hot pants and a tube top began some weapons-grade grinding on me in just the right spot. Danced with her a bit. Got another drink. Felt her up as she felt me down. Asked how much for anal and she seemed a little stunned. Said she'd have no idea how much to charge for that. I made a handsome but not extravagant offer. Her nose turned up at it; she declined to name a figure and excused herself.

Three minutes later: two chicas approached and started dancing with me and each other. Five minutes later I asked about a threesome. Fair price quoted. Done. Cedulas presented at the front desk and up to my room.

Dayana (shorter, braces, glasses) and Valentina (taller, pretty, long hair) got right to it and into each other but the Sapphic stuff didn't last long. Mid-session, the took a phone call to argue price with a prospective customer. Boo: major loss of points. V more attentive and into it. Out came my toys; girls enjoyed. Valentina on all fours sucking me BB while Dayana buzzed V's clit from behind with the Hitachi. Valentina on her back, head dangling over the edge of the bed with me face-fucking her while Dayana fucked herself with another vibrator. Jimmy Hat time: V riding cowgirl, V taking it doggy. Switched condoms, pounded the from behind while she sucked V's tits. Couldn't hold back longer at that.

Conventional wisdom received and confirmed: threesomes are hit-or-miss. This one had its moments but was more of the latter. Not a terrible session, just not one with the fireworks that trios sometimes ignite. Valentina alone might have been the better bet.

Digression: Room 102 at the M was in need of cosmetic TLC, but spacious and comfortable. Signal feature: an 8' x 6' mirror reflecting the length of the bed. Good visuals. Another large strategically placed mirror in the bathroom, where there was a shower big enough for three. My only beef: the lighting, all compact fluorescent blue-shifted ugly. Memo to self: bring mood lighting next time. But reports of the Hotel M's demise are greatly exaggerated. Not "a mess," as was reported here. A single guy painting the exterior door to the bar was the only work going on. There's a gleaming new kitchen. A reconfigured wall to make the hotel and the bar institutionally distinct. A new outdoor dining area. The staff was top-shelf: special shout-outs to the rockin' hot bartenders there that night and to Blas and the day crew who were super helpful to me.

Session 2: Silvana at the Ibiza.

The next morning: worse for the evening before. Ubered to the Ibiza Motel ([URL]http://motelibiza.com[/URL]) for a 10:00 with Silvana ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrea.toro.3114[/URL]). Though she's got a cute face, her FB page was pedestrian. I might have passed her up but for her persistence in messaging. Decided to give the business to one who wanted me to give her the business.

The Ibiza: my first Latin American love motel. The room: stripper pole, sound system, sex furniture, porn on the tube, Jacuzzi, none of which we used. Clean, modern, comfortable, fun, but no bedside mirror.

Silvana: short, big natural chest, big nipples, cute smile, nice ass, warm personality. Not a flaca but not fat.

DATY and teased her pucker with a finger. She reciprocated the oral sin condom with a lot of saliva. Then her holding a vibrator against her clit while I fingered her ass deep with copious amounts of lube. Orgasmic contractions almost broke my finger. It was time. Condom, with more lube. Kneeling between her legs: missionary anal. Started shallow and gentle while she worked herself into it again with the vibrator, then finished hard and deep, locked into her gone eyes as I came. Cuddling, post-anal shower together, some chitchat, and then slapstick moments a la Lucille Ball as we were both stumped by the security architecture of the love hotel. Hilarious. Finally we figured out how to leave the room and rode away in separate cabs.

Repeat? Indeed. Attitude was wonderful--lots of laughs and fun together.

Session 3: Angie at The Art Hotel.

Angie: the high point of my trip, full stop. Rarely have I had a woman with her combination of looks, attitude, intelligence, personality, and mad sex skills. Per the Michelin Guide, vaut LE voyage. Thanks be to Facebook for connecting us ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258[/URL]).

She arrived beautiful and sweet-smelling in a simple black dress. Dazzling smile, waist-length black hair, light makeup, lissome and cute as the proverbial button. Font desk, cedula, no chica charge at the Art Hotel ([URL]http://www.arthotel.com.co/[/URL]) for guests between 8 AM and 8 PM (though deterrent-level fees for nighttime bedmates). Up to the room.

Sat on the bed and talked. Minibar beer and wine. Like we'd known each other forever. Angie signaling readiness by removing her shoes, then the dress. Wow. Red strapless bra, black thong. Body slender, toned. Bra off: small breasts, lovely puffy nipples. Clearly she'd been put together by someone who enjoyed his work. Me out of my clothes, her grinding that fine natural cake against me. Dear lord. Pushed her onto the bed, knelt, went down. Tasty and immediately responsive. My finger in her pussy beckoning against her G-spot. Occasional little whimpers as the pleasure built. She came with my face buried in her labia, alive and pulsing. Now her turn: oral on me, no condom. Possibly the best ever. Warm and wet and seemingly toothless velvet. Almost made me forget my plans to fuck her in the culo. Almost.

I unveiled the toys maitre the' style: voila! She skipped over the small and medium vibes and went straight for the Hitachi. Her on her back, legs spread, eyes closed, the buzzing rubber ball against her clit. Me on my side between her legs, watching every spasm. Her welcoming my lubed finger deep in her ass: firm, quick insertions, exquisitely slow withdrawals til just a fingertip remained. Other hand pinching her nipples. She came again.

Raincoat with KY, us on our sides, spooning, me lifting her top leg as I went hilt-deep into that perfect ass. Angie breathing fast and shallow, reaching for the Hitachi, buzzing herself again, vibrations and spasms driving me wild. Her telling me she wanted me to come in her ass did the trick. Enveloped by her.

Afterward, she hung around. Showered. Selfies in front of the full-length mirror. No problem with me taking pix (she is or was a cam girl; not at all shy about the pix). Posing for me. More talk, drink, laughs. Some guys say, "I pay them to leave. " Not at all with Angie: a relaxed, prolonged postfuck. I was sorry to say goodbye to her.

Would I repeat? Do you have to ask?

Session 4: Laura at The Art Hotel.

I had a trio scheduled for the next day, but they flaked out on me: no call, no show. Too bad. So I messaged Laura ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante[/URL]) who had driven me out to Guatape the previous day for a photo tour of that colorful town. We'd connected on Facebook before my arrival. During the ride, I had been unable to keep my eyes off her chest, which seemed to be fighting to escape the confines of her bra and shirt. Orange hair and heavy make-up aren't normally to my taste, but she wears it fun--and speaks passable English.

Up in the room, removal of her shirt and bra my top priority. Holy shit: big beautiful naturals, not much sag, delightful to hold, cup, suck. Oral, giving and receiving. Her intimately tonguing my perineum and balls and making my thighs shake. Then the killer: she scooched forward and nestled me between those big luscious tetas. Clearly something she'd done before and her expertise had me right on the edge for a long time.

My turn: tonguing and caressing her asshole, prepping her. She was a virgin to culocentric sex and hesitant but curious. Our deal: stop means stop, no argument or cajoling. Vibrator on her clit while I explored. She took one finger well, two not so well, but then wanted the real thing. I suited up and we managed anal spoons for a few minutes, then anal cowgirl, then anal frombe, but she wasn't able to relax and after about five minutes asked me to cease and desist. Done.

New condom, me deeply encunted, her riding cowgirl, me watching those truly marvelous breasts bob and bounce as her pelvic sorcery worked me to orgasm.

"Good, giving, and game" are the qualities Dan Savage says one should look for in a sex partner and Laura is that. She told me afterward that it wasn't that that the Greek was so painful, it was more that she got scared. She said she would like to try it again with me.

Postscript.

--Based on an admittedly small sample, the Facebook method can work. In fact, for people like me on a tightly constrained schedule, it may work better than almost anything except a casa. I get the "thrill of the hunt" that some of my brother mongers speak of, but when time is tight, a prearrangement works pretty well.

--I discussed specific services and prices with each girl by written messages (Messenger, WhatsApp, etc.). I didn't want any ambiguity in either. I didn't trust myself to make money decisions while my cock was being sucked. And I find haggling to be an erotic buzzkill. That approach worked for me, but as with everything else, it's not for everyone. It's those differences that make it a big beautiful world, right?

--Regarding money, I deliberately chose not to reveal what I paid to whom in this report. I will be glad to give that information out to anyone who asks via private message.

--My Facebook friends list includes over 100 Medellin chicas. Friend me on FB to see. Looking at other guys' FB friends list is largely how I built my own and I am glad to give back.

--I have some lovely pix of the parties referenced herein. Will post them as soon as I can wrangle them into the appropriate size.

My experience and that of many of my friends is that Facebook girls are extraordinarily unreliable. Part of this is just Colombian culture where punctuality a normative value.

If you set a cita for 2 PM understand the chica may show anytime between 1:30 PM and 4 PM or later. You have about a 15% chance of an absolute no show. Girls will regularly lie and say they are on the road when they are not. I always tell them to message me when they get in the taxi so I can be ready for them. Sometimes I ask them to send me a google maps live location link but many won't sometimes claiming data limitations. I have had girls send me photos of themselves in taxis to show up with different clothes. I have had girls tell me it took over two hours to get from Bello to Poblado when I can see on Google Maps it is 40 minutes, though real traffic delays are normal. Many of my regular girls have had the experience of showing up at my place to find me gone and a note in their messenger that I got tired of waiting and left. One girl getting a 2nd chance (because she was just great in bed) showed up two hours late the 2nd time and forgot her cita. Remember these are usually not the girls who could have gone to medical school but decided to be prepagos instead. I suspect I am an outlier as I know most guys will sit all afternoon with their thumbs up their asses waiting. On a six week trip I'm usually a once a day guy, so I often try to make my dates for early afternoon before lunch. If a girl is very late I go get lunch and start looking for an alternate. I seem to remember someone posting their experience with FB girl was that they where mostly punctual. I have also seen the roulette wheel land on black 10 times in a row but would not call that normal. My observation is from over a dozen trips to MDE and that of many friends.

On the plus side if I give those Chicas a second chance they or often (but not always) more punctual with me. My trips are now 4 to 6 weeks in length, just forgetting about a late or now show and doing something else is fine with me.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2366382]Nice job reporting, for all the back a forth that we do on here, myself included, reports like this are the mother lode. I have some questions you might be able to help with. I have a substantial Facebook list myself. I have not decided how long I will stay in Medellin, I going to have about about 2 weeks in country and want to spend at least a few days in Cartagena, and maybe even fly up to santa Marta. My question about Facebook girls is are they usually willing to do citas at any time of the day? I Will want two on many days. My Question on Centro, and forgive me if this is in previous reports, do you always just use a love motel for a quicky or is it worth taking them back to the apartment sometimes?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2366346]Well let's see, I've been going since about 1999 and my last visit was last week............[/QUOTE]What a surprise!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366383]For your next photo shoot in El Centro you should consider the following if you have the balls to do it. You could go down to the Veracruz Church and get a photo of the Transvestites that stand on the South / East corner of the Church. You would have to take the photo somehow without them knowing. If they noticed you, they would gang up and kick the shit out of you right on the spot and smash your phone and perhaps carve you up a bit. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't even contemplate doing this. They are a bunch of aggressive nasty dudes to be stayed away from. When I walk by this area I have no interaction with them, however sometimes I stand directly opposite from them on the other side of the walkway with the SW's looking at the talent walking up and down the walkway. Some of the Transvestites have some cute SW friends that they talk with probably gossiping about make-up or something like that.

You could also get some photo's of the glue sniffers (Sacaleros). What used to be "Sacalero Row" along the South side of the Museum used to have several zonked out Chicas huffing glue from small plastic bags, but the Police have cleaned that passageway up due to Tourism. But around three years ago before the Venezuelans showed up, there used to be some fucking hot glue sniffers lined up along there to be sampled, but those days are gone, maybe to return, or now exist in other parts of town unknown to me. Oh how things have changed at the Playground in El Centro. A shortage of hot glue sniffers and the invasion of the Venezuelans. What will be next.[/QUOTE]You're welcome.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2366380]Don't repeat these kinds of stories. It's not possible for somebody married for a short time would get a house.[/QUOTE]Why would it not be possible? Nobody said the house was paid off and she got it free and clear. She might have still had 98% of the payments left. They could have bought the house together and he relinquished the mortgage to her.

I was married 2 years and my wife already had a house. For the time that I lived there I was entitled to part of the equity that had accrued during that period. Everything depends on the laws of particular states and what the individuals work out. So yes it is possible for someone married a short time to get a house.

I have never ever been charged an entry fee at Luna Lunera. There are two sides to every story. The catch in my case is I don't go there to hang out or to drink. When they ask if I want a drink I say no, let me see the girls (presentation). If I see one I like, I go with her. If I don't see one I like, I kick rocks.

There is no wrong or right way to do this. This is a great report because it lays out the costs factually. But it left out the option to avoid overpriced drinks and pointless entry fees.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2366415]I have lived in Medellin for some time and should have posted this a while ago but better late than never.

Last Friday I went to two strip bars Barra Ejecutiva and Luna Lunera. Barra Ejecutiva is in el centro and is pretty cheap compared to clubs like fase dos. You don't pay to get in and half a bottle of rum is 80 k, not sure how much other drinks are but a small beer (called a costenita, just google it for an idea of what it looks like) and a double baileys are 15 k and 25 k when you buy them for the chicas. By comparison fase dos is 20 k to enter and 25 k for a beer for you and bottles start at around 150 k. Girls will come and talk to you in Barra Ejecutiva if you have a bottle and you can talk to a few and enjoy the girls dancing on the catwalk. Last year it was 80 k to go upstairs for half an hour but this seems to have increased to 90 k minimum with a couple of girls asking 100 k to 120 k. I like this place, its cheap and you can find a couple of really nice girls for decent prices, although it does get pretty busy and there aren't many gringos so it could be intimidating, but I like the vibe. If you want to see one outside they are all too keen to give you their whatsapp but they usually don't finish work until 4 am..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2366562]My experience and that of many of my friends is that Facebook girls are extraordinarily unreliable. Part of this is just Colombian culture where punctuality a normative value.

If you set a cita for 2 PM understand the chica may show anytime between 1:30 PM and 4 PM or later. You have about a 15% chance of an absolute no show.[/QUOTE]Yes, Latino culture doesn't place the same priority on timeliness. That is indeed a cultural difference. But there are some things you can do to improve your results (that is, of course, if timeliness means a lot to you).

The first thing I would recommend is try staying somewhere else other than El Poblado. Poblado is in the corner pocket of Medellin and there aren't any freeways that loop around the city. Girls coming from Bello are going.

To be late as hell and traffic will be bad. My first trip to Medellin, I stayed in a nice little hotel in Poblado. Every Facebook date arrived late, later, or latest. Now you would think that these girls would have made that trip.

By taxi a hundred times and would have a sense of how long it would take but you would be wrong. They are messaging friends and other potential dates and they don't even notice how long it takes.

So, why do I think this? The next couple of trips to Medellin, I stayed in Laureles on or close to La Setenta which is a pretty busy commercial street. How did my arrival times compare at those locations? The girls were universally on time or only a few minutes late. I think the latest one was 1/2 hour late and she apologized saying here baby sitter didn't arrive on time. You will find that the traffic is much less congested from the NW barrios to Laureles.

Another thing you could do is use the phrase "a tiempo" which means "on time" with emphasis. They don't use terms like 3:00 o'clock sharp or on the dot or anything like that.

My last suggestion is what seems to be a standard method for getting things done in SA. Bribe Them!! Tell your girly that if she gets there within 15 minutes before or after the date time you're going to add 20 mil to her pay.

Tell her it won't matter to you if the cab gets lost or he took a wrong turn or there was an accident the bonus only counts if she arrives +/- 15 minutes.

Now as to 'ghosting', most girls will not do that. They want to give you an excuse and maybe reschedule the date. Why would they do that? Well, it won't be the excuse they give you "Oh, amor, my mother broke a nail and I have to stay with her through it all" it will most likely be that you offered her 150 mil and cabfare and while she was getting ready someone else offered her 200 mil and cabfare. Or maybe it was her regular from Florida just got in and he wants her for toda la noche. So she is going to make an excuse and try to get you on a different day. Completely no showing happens (of course) but most girls realize that burns the bridge and there won't be a later date after that.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2366415]Barra Ejecutiva is in el centro and is pretty cheap compared to clubs like fase dos. I like this place, its cheap and you can find a couple of really nice girls for decent prices, although it does get pretty busy and there aren't many gringos so it could be intimidating, but I like the vibe. If you want to see one outside they are all too keen to give you their whatsapp but they usually don't finish work until 4 am.[/QUOTE]BE closes at 3, and staying next door I have even seen it close earlier than that if it is slow.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366570]You're welcome.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if that's a backhanded compliment but your one of the few people to post photo's of the area, let alone photo's of the really grimy stuff that exists down there. And just to let you know, I have been advised by a friend that he saw a Midget down in El Centro the day before yesterday so perhaps if you have your stealth camera with you can get a shot of her for me, not that it would be hard to miss something out of the circus down there.

All kidding aside, your photos will help others venture down into the El Centro Playground.

[QUOTE=TriFreak;2366476]ME personally I gave them 50 mil off the rip after being told 25/30 all of them gave me very enthusiastic BBBJ was it the extra 20 mil maybe, maybe not either way I was happy she was happy everyone happy.[/QUOTE]You prepaid a SW? Should have read that brother's report a couple months ago who got ripped off doing that.

I got over 3,400 Pesos to the USD out of a Scotia ATM yesterday which included about $ 10 USD in my bank and Scotias fees. You can take out up to $ 1,000,000 per transaction and if you have the money in the bank, right now is a good time to stock up on Pesos for the future!

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[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2366562]I have had girls send me photos of themselves in taxis to show up with different clothes.[/QUOTE]LOL.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2366562]Many of my regular girls have had the experience of showing up at my place to find me gone and a note in their messenger that I got tired of waiting and left.[/QUOTE]Too many chicks out there to be bending over backwards and accepting any kind of treatment from one. Many guys look at it as the girl doing them a favor. I look at it as me doing the girl a favor by choosing to give her work out of the 1000 other chicks I could have given it to.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2366562]Remember these are usually not the girls who could have gone to medical school but decided to be prepagos instead.[/QUOTE]I always say they are hookers because they are lazy. Some guys feel sorry and give them all kinds of excuses though. I know too many chicks from the same background that are not hookers to believe someone had no other choice. I thank god for their laziness though.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2366511]-Regarding money, I deliberately chose not to reveal what I paid to whom in this report. I will be glad to give that information out to anyone who asks via private message.

--My Facebook friends list includes over 100 Medellin chicas. Friend me on FB to see. Looking at other guys' FB friends list is largely how I built my own and I am glad to give back.

--I have some lovely pix of the parties referenced herein. Will post them as soon as I can wrangle them into the appropriate size.[/QUOTE]After this read, I am convinced to also book with Angie lmao. She quoted a pretty high ticket for me on FB But w / e going to be spending my Birthday in Medellin so smashing a fine fine piece like herself for a few hours at a rate that would normally get me 30 minutes in NYC is entirely within my budget. ID eat empanadas all day if I get to bang these high profile chicks. I just wonder though, if I look real hard or hire someone to look with me, how often can I find women of this quality ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258[/URL]) for half the money. I am ready to take on a local teaching job and leave this bullllllshit behind.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2366385]Thanks for your insight. I've also had that experience with FB. A lot of GND types. But no real stunners. I've never really done the agencies. I'd be curious to know what apartment setups or agencies you might recommend? Much appreciated![/QUOTE]If you understand that I don't mind the upsell, maybe these places are for you. I usually take two of the upsells.

University Chicas +57 300 2350414.

Chicas Paisas +57 301 4126770.

I gambled on some independents. This one I recommend.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/ven-y-termina-en-mis-nalgas-soy-una-linda-morena-de-21-ano-3008490318/14072033/[/URL]

I am older so I like the tantra massage chicas. To get full service from one of them is a costly option.

Mostly I like the agencies and apartments because I have more control over time. It starts when I show up rather than when they show up.

Questions:

1. Do the Casas or Strip Clubs in Medellin allow you to use your own condoms?

2. If they do, what is your experience in using a delay ejaculation condom at these places?

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2366511]Home now after my cherry four-day trip to Medellin. Had an amazing time, thanks to PolloNegro, SallySally, Zhagolo52, JjBee62, Guido88, TriFreak, Husker Dude, KilledSoul, BlueBudgie, and others who gave guidance, encouragement, and intel. What I did right I learned from them. What I messed up was my own fault. Here's a report of the proceedings.

Prep.

I started getting ready for this trip back in April. Read two years of ISG posts and made notes re the FB chicas who interested me. Created a Facebook page and sent out friend requests. Occasionally "liked" posts by some of the women, but didn't chat or post much. Eventually I began receiving friend requests from other Medellin chicas. Threesomes and anal are my thing, so I was alert to posts from women that indicated they might be down for one or the other. Kept a running list of the ones with potential..[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks.

Did you stay at Hotel M the whole time and choose to just use cool ST rooms? Did you just go to the ST places and meet the ladies there hoping you wouldn't be waiting forever?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2366573]I have never ever been charged an entry fee at Luna Lunera. There are two sides to every story. The catch in my case is I don't go there to hang out or to drink. When they ask if I want a drink I say no, let me see the girls (presentation). If I see one I like, I go with her. If I don't see one I like, I kick rocks.

There is no wrong or right way to do this. This is a great report because it lays out the costs factually. But it left out the option to avoid overpriced drinks and pointless entry fees.[/QUOTE]Great to know as I didn't even know this was an option, the few times I've been I went with buddies so we always got a bottle and hung out, thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366636]Questions:

1. Do the Casas or Strip Clubs in Medellin allow you to use your own condoms?...[/QUOTE]Allow? Dude, they're just happy to save fifty cents.

Thought I would try a new place today so I went to Barcelona the viewing fee is now 5000 pesos it is 50,000 for half an hour 70,000 an hour. There were 5 or 6 chicks half were ok looking. I went with Alejandra, mostly thin and blonde hair. BBBJ extra 50 k. After the session asked about DATY extra 20 k. Got here phone number for a private session for 150 k plus extras. Probably won't use it when you add it all up 200 k+.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366636]Questions:

1. Do the Casas or Strip Clubs in Medellin allow you to use your own condoms?

2. If they do, what is your experience in using a delay ejaculation condom at these places?[/QUOTE]There's an up-charge associated with bringing your own condom's that varies between 3,000 and 5,000 Pesos at the Casa's and even higher at the Strip Clubs. Don't know why but there just is at the Strip Clubs for some reason. I typically to delay ejaculation I wear two condoms, I typically can't feel much but can pop in less than two minutes flat. When I want to prematurely ejaculate, I go bare-back. Maybe five pumps and I squirt, kind like Speedy Gonzales. I hope this helps.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2366415]I have lived in Medellin for some time and should have posted this a while ago but better late than never.

Last Friday I went to two strip bars Barra Ejecutiva and Luna Lunera. Barra Ejecutiva is in el centro and is pretty cheap compared to clubs like fase dos. You don't pay to get in and half a bottle of rum is 80 k, not sure how much other drinks are but a small beer (called a costenita, just google it for an idea of what it looks like) and a double baileys are 15 k and 25 k when you buy them for the chicas. By comparison fase dos is 20 k to enter and 25 k for a beer for you and bottles start at around 150 k. Girls will come and talk to you in Barra Ejecutiva if you have a bottle and you can talk to a few and enjoy the girls dancing on the catwalk. Last year it was 80 k to go upstairs for half an hour but this seems to have increased to 90 k minimum with a couple of girls asking 100 k to 120 k. I like this place, its cheap and you can find a couple of really nice girls for decent prices, although it does get pretty busy and there aren't many gringos so it could be intimidating, but I like the vibe. If you want to see one outside they are all too keen to give you their whatsapp but they usually don't finish work until 4 am.

Luna Lunera is very different. It's 10 k to get in and the half bottles start at 100 k. Generally more girls will come over and talk to you hear but they are always asking for 25 k cocktails which is a bit annoying. Prices start at around 160 k for half an hour but the rooms are really clean and spacious. In general LunaLunera has a more intimate vibe and is a more relaxed place to hang out but it's not cheap. I know it's expensive but I have gringo friends who love the place for whatever reason, if it was up to me I would be happy hanging out in ejecutive.

I've lived here for just under a year so will add more reports just thought I would start with my most recent experience while it's fresh.[/QUOTE]What time did you go to Barra & would a tourist feel safe using uber to & from the strip club at night even though it's in El Centro? I'm really a night owl & love strip clubs but those Luna beer prices sound ridiculous.

You can uber to and from Maracaibo and Barra Ejecutiva no problem. Action picks up beginning 7 pm. It's a 15 minute or so walk from Plaza Botero / Veracruz if you want to check that out from 3 pm to 6 pm or so. After 3 the sun is low enough that girls aren't hiding in the shady spots and it gets dark around 6 pm, which makes it a good time to make your way to the strip bars. Grab a beer at one of the cafeterias on Maracaibo (53St) and watch the civilian girls until 7 or so. You can also watch the strip club employees arriving.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366678]What time did you go to Barra & would a tourist feel safe using uber to & from the strip club at night even though it's in El Centro? I'm really a night owl & love strip clubs but those Luna beer prices sound ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I'm missing something. What prevents anyone keying in an address on google maps street view to see what is in those photos?

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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366584]I'm not sure if that's a backhanded compliment but your one of the few people to post photo's of the area, let alone photo's of the really grimy stuff that exists down there. And just to let you know, I have been advised by a friend that he saw a Midget down in El Centro the day before yesterday so perhaps if you have your stealth camera with you can get a shot of her for me, not that it would be hard to miss something out of the circus down there.

All kidding aside, your photos will help others venture down into the El Centro Playground.[/QUOTE]

1. Yes, you can bring and use your own condoms. As a side note, Luna Lunera charges a condom fee you don't have to pay if you bring your own. I don't know what that fee is, I always have my own condoms.

2. I have no experience with delay ejaculation condoms. The method I use to achieve the same result is to blow a load then go fuck another girl. I find that delays ejaculation very reliably.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366636]Questions:

1. Do the Casas or Strip Clubs in Medellin allow you to use your own condoms?

2. If they do, what is your experience in using a delay ejaculation condom at these places?[/QUOTE]

There is nothing new about Barcelona. Barcelona is one of the old guard that hasn't change its name or location in more than 10 years. I last stopped in there a year or more ago.

The high looky loo fee they charge doesn't surprise me even those it is more than double what other places charge. The reason it doesn't surprise me is they typically have older and fatter girls than the other casas so they get a lot of guys leaving without taking a girl.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2366649]Thought I would try a new place today so I went to Barcelona the viewing fee is now 5000 pesos it is 50,000 for half an hour 70,000 an hour. There were 5 or 6 chicks half were ok looking. I went with Alejandra, mostly thin and blonde hair. BBBJ extra 50 k. After the session asked about DATY extra 20 k. Got here phone number for a private session for 150 k plus extras. Probably won't use it when you add it all up 200 k+.[/QUOTE]

I hope you joking. 2 condoms to delay ejaculation, seriously? Wow.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366654]There's an up-charge associated with bringing your own condom's that varies between 3,000 and 5,000 Pesos at the Casa's and even higher at the Strip Clubs. Don't know why but there just is at the Strip Clubs for some reason. I typically to delay ejaculation I wear two condoms, I typically can't feel much but can pop in less than two minutes flat. When I want to prematurely ejaculate, I go bare-back. Maybe five pumps and I squirt, kind like Speedy Gonzales. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

I began planning for my first and probably only trip to Medellin next May. I have been watching Columbia thru ISG for a decade. I do my partying mostly in SouthEast Asia. Primarily because I like Asian women and in large cities they speak English to a fair degree.

Travis's report hit the nail on the head for me. I am encouraged.

I will due my due diligence as well before I start asking questions of the forum.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2366511] What I did right I learned from them. What I messed up was my own fault. Here's a report of the proceedings.

Prep.

I started getting ready for this trip back in April. Read two years of ISG posts and made notes re the FB chicas who interested me. Created a Facebook page and sent out friend requests. Occasionally "liked" posts by some of the women, but didn't chat or post much. Eventually I began receiving friend requests from other Medellin chicas. Threesomes and anal are my thing, so I was alert to posts from women that indicated they might be down for one or the other. Kept a running list of the ones with potential.

Postscript.

--Based on an admittedly small sample, the Facebook method can work. In fact, for people like me on a tightly constrained schedule, it may work better than almost anything except a casa. I get the "thrill of the hunt" that some of my brother mongers speak of, but when time is tight, a prearrangement works pretty well.

--I discussed specific services and prices with each girl by written messages (Messenger, WhatsApp, etc.). I didn't want any ambiguity in either. I didn't trust myself to make money decisions while my cock was being sucked. And I find haggling to be an erotic buzzkill. That approach worked for me, but as with everything else, it's not for everyone. It's those differences that make it a big beautiful world, right?

--Regarding money, I deliberately chose not to reveal what I paid to whom in this report. I will be glad to give that information out to anyone who asks via private message.

--My Facebook friends list includes over 100 Medellin chicas. Friend me on FB to see. Looking at other guys' FB friends list is largely how I built my own and I am glad to give back.

--I have some lovely pix of the parties referenced herein. Will post them as soon as I can wrangle them into the appropriate size.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2366415]I have lived in Medellin for some time and should have posted this a while ago but better late than never.

Last Friday I went to two strip bars Barra Ejecutiva and Luna Lunera. Barra Ejecutiva is in el centro and is pretty cheap compared to clubs like fase dos. You don't pay to get in and half a bottle of rum is 80 k, not sure how much other drinks are but a small beer (called a costenita, just google it for an idea of what it looks like) and a double baileys are 15 k and 25 k when you buy them for the chicas. By comparison fase dos is 20 k to enter and 25 k for a beer for you and bottles start at around 150 k. Girls will come and talk to you in Barra Ejecutiva if you have a bottle and you can talk to a few and enjoy the girls dancing on the catwalk. Last year it was 80 k to go upstairs for half an hour but this seems to have increased to 90 k minimum with a couple of girls asking 100 k to 120 k. I like this place, its cheap and you can find a couple of really nice girls for decent prices, although it does get pretty busy and there aren't many gringos so it could be intimidating, but I like the vibe. If you want to see one outside they are all too keen to give you their whatsapp but they usually don't finish work until 4 am..[/QUOTE]For something completely different go check out Bar Show Montijo. It's a complete dive. Tiny place downstairs with about 6 tables and a tiny bedroom in the corner. There's generally only 3 or 4 girls there. The little chica beers are 6 k and Pilsen is 3 k.

I talked a couple of guys I was with into stopping to check it out, 2 years ago. They weren't comfortable at all with the place, but it appealed to me. I went back a few times and there always seemed to be one fairly hot girl. The rest were mostly really bad.

Went back in July and there was one fairly hot girl. Bought a few beers, talked, played around and took her to the room for 60 k. I was satisfied with the results.

You won't see any gringos there and very few other customers.

From the southeast corner of Parque Berrio, take the diagonal south east. Transversal 49 #50-13 I think is the address.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366636]Questions:

1. Do the Casas or Strip Clubs in Medellin allow you to use your own condoms?

2. If they do, what is your experience in using a delay ejaculation condom at these places?[/QUOTE]1. Yes.

2. I've never used one.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2366654]There's an up-charge associated with bringing your own condom's that varies between 3,000 and 5,000 Pesos at the Casa's and even higher at the Strip Clubs. Don't know why but there just is at the Strip Clubs for some reason. I typically to delay ejaculation I wear two condoms, I typically can't feel much but can pop in less than two minutes flat. When I want to prematurely ejaculate, I go bare-back. Maybe five pumps and I squirt, kind like Speedy Gonzales. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Unless I'm really confused, you got that backwards. There's usually an upcharge if you use the casa or strip club's condom. Although sometimes they just charge you even if you brought your own.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2366678]What time did you go to Barra & would a tourist feel safe using uber to & from the strip club at night even though it's in El Centro? I'm really a night owl & love strip clubs but those Luna beer prices sound ridiculous.[/QUOTE]It all depends on the tourist. I've seen tourists who get nervous walking around Laureles in the middle of the afternoon.

I took an Uber to Barra Ejecutiva at about 11 pm. Had him drop me off a block away and walked down. Then I hung around outside for 25 minutes waiting for another guy to show up. I felt safe. At around 12:30 I walked outside, joked with the doorman for a few minutes and flagged down a Taxi. I still felt safe.

I've been to MDE a few times but never really went outside of mansion except for the normal new life and casa run. I did go to (MYA RISTA) I'm pretty sure I am spelling that wrong. That had a very Tijuana feel to it. Is Mya Rista in el Centro? Or are these two separate parts? This trip I plan to venture out more. I do like to go eat and hang in Parque Llares but I never picked up a chick there. Is that a good spot or should I just head to Central? Also, If I venture down to Central, what is a good starting point there?

I think you mean Mayorista. And its not in el Centro. Its pretty much west directly west of el poblado. You can definitely pick up chicks in Parque LLeras. At least you could when I was last there about 2 or 3 years ago. Someone else whose been there more recently might have more insight into recent changes.

[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2366723]I've been to MDE a few times but never really went outside of mansion except for the normal new life and casa run. I did go to (MYA RISTA) I'm pretty sure I am spelling that wrong. That had a very Tijuana feel to it. Is Mya Rista in el Centro? Or are these two separate parts? This trip I plan to venture out more. I do like to go eat and hang in Parque Llares but I never picked up a chick there. Is that a good spot or should I just head to Central? Also, If I venture down to Central, what is a good starting point there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2366623]After this read, I am convinced to also book with Angie lmao.[/QUOTE]Don't go chasing other people's experiences. That is the quickest way to be let down. Create your own experiences. Remember Your Mileage May Vary. Just because Travis McGee was able to climb into the cockpit of an F-22, hit the afterburners, and hotdog it around, does not mean you are going to be able to do the same thing. You might not even be able to get the canopy closed.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2366623]She quoted a pretty high ticket for me on FB But w / e going to be spending my Birthday in Medellin so smashing a fine fine piece like herself for a few hours at a rate that would normally get me 30 minutes in NYC[/QUOTE]Go to the casas and you are going to pay one-tenth of the price that that chick was telling you for someone that looks just like her.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2366623]ID eat empanadas all day if I get to bang these high profile chicks. I just wonder though, if I look real hard or hire someone to look with me, how often can I find women of this quality.[/QUOTE]Goes to show that one man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm not saying there is anything trashy about these chicks, but ThadMax said it best: "A lot of GND types. But no real stunners." Dude these are just normal everyday chicks in Colombia. Maybe inside of your neighborhood, but there is nothing "high profile" or "of this quality" about them in a Medellin setting.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366736]Goes to show that one man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm not saying there is anything trashy about these chicks, but ThadMax said it best: "A lot of GND types. But no real stunners." Dude these are just normal everyday chicks in Colombia. Maybe inside of your neighborhood, but there is nothing "high profile" or "of this quality" about them in a Medellin setting.[/QUOTE]I see some of the most pretty girls on FB, that are prettier than SW in El central and most of casa girls. Occasionally, I find some hot girl in casa or massage places. What are the stunner that you prefer to? 8+ type girls (natural, enhance, etc.) But then again beauty is in the eye of beholder. As long as the girls are up to your standard then that's all that's matter.

Hey guys,

Going to be in Medellin for the month, maybe longer. If anyone's down to grab a coffee or drink sometime DM me.

I enjoy Fase Dos (and similar night places) a lot.

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[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2366723]I've been to MDE a few times but never really went outside of mansion except for the normal new life and casa run. I did go to (MYA RISTA) I'm pretty sure I am spelling that wrong. That had a very Tijuana feel to it. Is Mya Rista in el Centro? Or are these two separate parts? This trip I plan to venture out more. I do like to go eat and hang in Parque Llares but I never picked up a chick there. Is that a good spot or should I just head to Central? Also, If I venture down to Central, what is a good starting point there?[/QUOTE]That would be Mayorista. Now that you mention it, there is a bit of a Tijuana feel to it. To get there take the Metro south (Niquia is the north end, Las Estrellas is the south) to Ayura station. After you come up the stairs and exit, turn left. You'll go through a few blocks that might look scary to you. Lots of street vendors. Just keep walking west, past the gas station. When you get to the casino "Paraguas", you've arrived. Mayorista is located in Itagui.

El Centro is north from El Poblado and the Mansion. You'll probably want to take a taxi. Tell them Plaza Botero. If you're feeling cheap and adventurous hop on one of the yellow buses going north. I think they're 2200 pesos now. You'll need to pay attention. I usually get off around Parque San Antonio, but you'll probably want to go a few blocks further. Just push the button by the rear door when you want the driver to stop.

You can pick up girls around Parque Lleras, but you'll pay a premium. The selection is very slim until after 10 pm. You can often find girls in the various clubs. Prices start high and go up to ridiculous. Some are scammers. I remember one cute girl trying to talk me into a 3 some and the other one certainly looked like a trannie.

Honestly, your best bet, if you're staying at the Mansion, is to get Facebook info from the girls there. Then mine their friend lists for more girls. You're paying more to stay there. You may as well get the most out of it.

If you want to venture out more, which is a good thing, I recommend using the Metro. You can hop on a bus along Avenida Poblado, going north to Parque Poblado. Get off and go down the hill on Calle 10. That will take you to the Poblado station. Go north (north, and, Niquia, remember) to Parque Berrio. This is your starting point.

Exit the station into the plaza area. There will be a big crowd of people. You're going to need to get used to them, because you'll find lots of people in El Centro. If you find yourself in an area with very few people, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Find a clear spot on the steps and sit down.

After a few minutes you'll realize they're just normal people, going about their business. There are girls with Thermos selling tinto (coffee) and there are people talking. Once you recognize it's not a dangerous mob of criminals, it's time to take a walk.

Walk down the steps and head north. You'll see a pink Flamingo store to the right. Ahead, to the left is the Palace of Culture. You can't miss it. It's built from alternating dark and light gray blocks. Turn left, cross under the Metro and walk west. The palace will be on your right, a line of shops on the left. You are entering the south end of Plaza Botero.

Walk around Plaza Botero. Admire the statues. Admire the women. Look for some landmarks. The first one is an old, white church, Iglesia Veracruz. It's at the southwest corner of Plaza Botero. The other landmark is the Museum of Antioquia which is western border or the plaza, along the northern half.

Before you venture further it's time for a warning. Your phone should be kept in your front pants pocket. Your money should be in the other front pants pocket. Do not let anyone grab ahold of you, put their arms around you or get too close. Some of the working girls, especially the trannies, can be aggressive. If someone reaches for you, block them with your hand and say "no. " Usually that's enough.

Now comes the scary part (for some people). Alongside the church is a walking street. Head west alongside the church. Stay to the middle or the left. The trannies usually lineup against the side of the church. At the corner you'll see several working girls. To the left (south) is a casino. Just past the casino there may be some girls sitting in a stairway. You won't find much else in that direction.

Head north. Both sides of the street are lined with working girls. Some might call to you, some will click their tongues at you. Continue north until you come to a big opening on the right. This will take you back to Plaza Botero.

If you're not ready to run back to the Mansion, start expanding your walk. There's plenty to see.

Let's say I want to bring a girl from Medellin to the beach (Cartagena, Santa Marta). I'm going to pay for all the expense (hotel, food, etc). I guess I also have to pay her as well. I just want to know what is a fair deal? We might go for couple days or a week. I know there are girls at the beach, I'm just wondering what it cost to being my own chica. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366719]Unless I'm really confused, you got that backwards. There's usually an upcharge if you use the casa or strip club's condom. Although sometimes they just charge you even if you brought your own.[/QUOTE]Does a bear shit in the woods. I didn't get it backwards, I reversed it. I guess you didn't get it. My post was a total farce.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2366702]I hope you joking. 2 condoms to delay ejaculation, seriously? Wow.[/QUOTE]Although my post was a a farce, and I have never used two condoms to delay ejaculation, I believe using two condoms would be very effective in delaying ejaculation.

Think about it, how hard it is to "come" at times just wearing a single condom. Now imagine wearing two condoms and not being able to feel a thing.

Make's sense doesn't it?

Has anyone been to Pablo Escobar's place recently? If so how was it? Also is New Life a hit or miss?

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2366745]I see some of the most pretty girls on FB, that are prettier than SW in El central and most of casa girls. [/QUOTE]That is your mind playing tricks on you. If you looked at 30 chicks' facebook pages you would not know which 10 were the SW, which 10 were the casa chicks, and which 10 were the chicks that normally pick up guys on facebook. If you saw them all together on facebook you would just put them all in the prettier than SW and most casa girls category. There is no master boss sectioning chicks off into different tiers of categories according to how they look.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2366891]Has anyone been to Pablo Escobar's place recently? If so how was it?[/QUOTE]You need to be more specific. Which place?

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2366623]After this read, I am convinced to also book with Angie lmao. She quoted a pretty high ticket for me on FB But w / e going to be spending my Birthday in Medellin so smashing a fine fine piece like herself for a few hours at a rate that would normally get me 30 minutes in NYC is entirely within my budget. ID eat empanadas all day if I get to bang these high profile chicks. I just wonder though, if I look real hard or hire someone to look with me, how often can I find women of this quality ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258[/URL]) for half the money. I am ready to take on a local teaching job and leave this bullllllshit behind.[/QUOTE]Negotiating before you get there's a mistake they're going to quote you big numbers.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2366878]Let's say I want to bring a girl from Medellin to the beach (Cartagena, Santa Marta). I'm going to pay for all the expense (hotel, food, etc). I guess I also have to pay her as well. I just want to know what is a fair deal? We might go for couple days or a week. I know there are girls at the beach, I'm just wondering what it cost to being my own chica. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nobody can tell you that. That would be between you and the girl. Unless you just pick up some random chick and decide to take her, which could turn into a disaster. Most would recommend you get to know a chick before doing that. This would give you more insight of what to give her based on other encounters you have had with her. Personally I would say free is a fair deal since she is getting a free vacation.

[QUOTE=NorCalKid;2366640]Great report, thanks.

Did you stay at Hotel M the whole time and choose to just use cool ST rooms? Did you just go to the ST places and meet the ladies there hoping you wouldn't be waiting forever?[/QUOTE]I stayed one night at the Hotel M and the other three nights at The Art Hotel. However, I did meet Silvana at a love motel (The Ibiza) because a) I had some time between check-out at the M and check-in at the Art Hotel, and b) I wanted to have the Latin American love motel experience. As far as timeliness goes, I told the women I saw that I only had a short time in Medellin and wanted to see as much of their wonderful city as I could, so it was very important to me that they arrived at the agreed time. Except for the threesome that flaked, I had no issues with chicas keeping me waiting.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2366920]Negotiating before you get there's a mistake they're going to quote you big numbers.[/QUOTE]I mean, maybe if you trying to pay nothing for it. I got quoted pretty reasonable rate.

Worst of the Worst, she tries to upsell me when I land, boo fucking girl as if these things aren't bound to happen with women of the night. I'd just dub her ass right then and there. If you want to spend the time before you land because that extra 50 Mil will break your bank, then we don't have much in common. Why wouldn't I entertain myself with hitting up these FB girls right now where yes there's going to be a ton more options on the horizon.

If you want to spend hours negotiating instead of using your dick when you land, we certainly do not roll in the same circle.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366919]You need to be more specific. Which place?[/QUOTE]I was told it's a mansion.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2366938]If you want to spend hours negotiating instead of using your dick when you land, we certainly do not roll in the same circle.[/QUOTE]Please show where it takes hours to negotiate for some pussy. The chick that is in my bed right now it took me all of 3 minutes. Are you coming? How much you give me? $30. Short time? Long time. Okay I am coming.

Had I said well I won't be there until next week, you think I would still be getting a $30 right-now deal? Nope. She would have told me $100 for the strong possibility of me wasting her damn time.

Ouch. Bich just bit my chest. I slapped the shit out of her and bit her back. She said YES! You want to do more? I got a fucking live one.

During my over four decades pursuing our hobby I have identified 6 girls who I put in a special category of hotness. One from Brazil, two from Germany, one from Singapore and two from Colombia. The two from Colombia was a chica from Loutrons and one from New Life, both circa 2008. The last special category hot working girl I sessioned was at an FKK in Germany in 2012. Well today I met number 7.

Since I arrived this trip in Medellin in July I have visited numerous casas and sessioned dozens of girls. The vast majority of girls I have sessioned have been average 5's and 6's with the rare Venezuelan 7. Well today I entered this casa that I have been to a couple times before and on each occasion they had different girls. Today I ventured there and KAPOW I was blown over by the first chica in the lineup of six. Her presentation to me was very lukewarm and I had to ask her to repeat her name, she obviously did not want to go with me. The 5 other girls were much more friendly. I have found that Colombian girls usually communicate to you that they are not interested in you and that you will not get a good session from them. I was aware of that in this case but still chose her because she was that hot and I have not met a provider like that in many years even with many visits to FKKs.

The time between telling the mamasan my choice and the girl coming to the waiting room to take me to the room was quite long making me wonder what was transpiring during the interlude. Nevertheless off to the room we went and I had no great expectations as to service. We undressed and hopped on the bed without a word being spoken. I sensed that any conversation would be spasmodic and subdued and worsen the ambiance. She had that perfectly beautiful paisa facial look but her body completely astounded me. Her skin was without blemish, her body was smooth, shapely and firm with a perfectly flat stomach and no tattoos. Now for the bad parts, no DFK, no BBBJ, no DATY, no kissing of the breasts (no gusto). I just did not feel for a CBJ and foreplay consisted of me kissing those parts of her body that she would allow (everywhere except breasts and lips). Needless to say with such a lovely body getting hard was not difficult at all.

Now on to sex. All I would say is that its very rare I come across a working girl with such a tight pussy. We started off in mish and her nonchalant demeanour changed as she could not withhold her enjoyment of coitus and started to moan. Within a couple minutes I felt as if I was going to come and would have none of that. I pulled out, gave myself some time to compose myself and switched to doggy. However, this woman's body was so enticing that it did not take many strokes for me to get that feeling again at which time I succumbed.

We showered and dressed with no words being spoken. If she had a good attitude she would be someone with whom I would repeat continually and even spend non casa time with but alas that was not to be. Gave her a pack of biscuits I bought from a Vennie street seller for which she thanked me and said our goodbys. I am most certain that in my next visit to this casa this 9 in my books will not be there and even if she is I doubt I would repeat. That would be injudicious.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366969]During my over four decades pursuing our hobby I have identified 6 girls who I put in a special category of hotness. One from Brazil, two from Germany, one from Singapore and two from Colombia. The two from Colombia was a chica from Loutrons and one from New Life, both circa 2008. The last special category hot working girl I sessioned was at an FKK in Germany in 2012. Well today I met number 7.

Since I arrived this trip in Medellin in July I have visited numerous casas and sessioned dozens of girls. The vast majority of girls I have sessioned have been average 5's and 6's with the rare Venezuelan 7. Well today I entered this casa that I have been to a couple times before and on each occasion they had different girls. Today I ventured there and KAPOW I was blown over by the first chica in the lineup of six. Her presentation to me was very lukewarm and I had to ask her to repeat her name, she obviously did not want to go with me. The 5 other girls were much more friendly. I have found that Colombian girls usually communicate to you that they are not interested in you and that you will not get a good session from them. I was aware of that in this case but still chose her because she was that hot and I have not met a provider like that in many years even with many visits to FKKs..[/QUOTE]Turgid,

Happy to hear you hit paydirt today with a special category girl one you haven't seen since 2012?

We all have our own personal hall of fame girls which give us lasting fond memories.

May I ask what "type" of girl are your 8 HOF girls? Big fake tit, big ass girls? Or my type of girls flaca all natural co-ed college girl types?

And name and address of this casa you found #8 in, and other casas you have found some gems other than New Life.

I will be arriving next Wednesday September 11. Will you still be in town? If you like lets do lunch and go on a casa run. Me, I am 53, live in Miami, and I am in Medellin every month.

I would agree with you that super hot girl is probably not going to be around long. It would be fun to try it once, if you can be friend her then it would worth a repeat. This is how I categorize girls: super hot, I want to fuck, fuck able, not fuck able. Of course I would love to fuck "super hot" all the time but look for them is like needle in a haystack. I'm happy to go with "I want to fuck" with good attitude. If I'm desperate then I'll fuck "fuck able". The "unfuckable", I rather jerk off.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2366969]During my over four decades pursuing our hobby I have identified 6 girls who I put in a special category of hotness. One from Brazil, two from Germany, one from Singapore and two from Colombia. The two from Colombia was a chica from Loutrons and one from New Life, both circa 2008. The last special category hot working girl I sessioned was at an FKK in Germany in 2012. Well today I met number 7.

Since I arrived this trip in Medellin in July I have visited numerous casas and sessioned dozens of girls. The vast majority of girls I have sessioned have been average 5's and 6's with the rare Venezuelan 7. Well today I entered this casa that I have been to a couple times before and on each occasion they had different girls. Today I ventured there and KAPOW I was blown over by the first chica in the lineup of six. Her presentation to me was very lukewarm and I had to ask her to repeat her name, she obviously did not want to go with me. The 5 other girls were much more friendly. I have found that Colombian girls usually communicate to you that they are not interested in you and that you will not get a good session from them. I was aware of that in this case but still chose her because she was that hot and I have not met a provider like that in many years even with many visits to FKKs..[/QUOTE]

I want to make a couple friends since I'm here for a month+, was wondering if you guys had any tips as to groups, both in person and online, where I can meet people who are here longer term. Figure a commonality like mongering would make forming bonds easier. I'm in my early 20's so any advice is appreciated even if it might seem common sense to those of you with more life exp.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366907] There is no master boss sectioning chicks off into different tiers of categories according to how they look.[/QUOTE]Oh, I thought I met that guy on my last visit, LOL.

As promised in my earlier post, here are pix of the women I sessioned during my recent trip to Medellin. Nos. 1 through 4 are Angie, No. 5 is Dayana & Valentina, No. 6 is Silvana, No. 7 is Laura.

[QUOTE=Ray42;2367098]I want to make a couple friends since I'm here for a month+, was wondering if you guys had any tips as to groups, both in person and online, where I can meet people who are here longer term. Figure a commonality like mongering would make forming bonds easier. I'm in my early 20's so any advice is appreciated even if it might seem common sense to those of you with more life exp.[/QUOTE]Early 20's? Wherever you plan on staying, find the nearby hostels. You'll find plenty of English speaking friends. Not sure how many will be interested in mongering. After all, when you've got more women than you can handle trying to catch your eye, why go somewhere and pay a girl?

[QUOTE=PerroChino;2366991]Turgid,

Happy to hear you hit paydirt today with a special category girl one you haven't seen since 2012?

We all have our own personal hall of fame girls which give us lasting fond memories.

May I ask what "type" of girl are your 8 HOF girls? Big fake tit, big ass girls? Or my type of girls flaca all natural co-ed college girl types?

And name and address of this casa you found #8 in, and other casas you have found some gems other than New Life.

I will be arriving next Wednesday September 11. Will you still be in town? If you like lets do lunch and go on a casa run. Me, I am 53, live in Miami, and I am in Medellin every month.[/QUOTE]If I was in town I would give you a tour of where you could find a midget, a sacalero, a pregnant Chica and all other kinds of bizarre Chicas to bang at bargain basement prices and more so, provide you with memories to last a lifetime.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367207]If I was in town I would give you a tour of where you could find a midget, a sacalero, a pregnant Chica and all other kinds of bizarre Chicas to bang at bargain basement prices and more so, provide you with memories to last a lifetime.[/QUOTE]OK, Surfer, you stumped the chump with this one. What is a sacalero?

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2367175]As promised in my earlier post, here are pix of the women I sessioned during my recent trip to Medellin. Nos. 1 through 4 are Angie, No. 5 is Dayana & Valentina, No. 6 is Silvana, No. 7 is Laura.[/QUOTE]After reading your report, I think we all want to know which one is Valentina?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367257]After reading your report, I think we all want to know which one is Valentina?[/QUOTE]She's the taller one on the left in the photo of the two women. Do you know her?

These?:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/world/americas/colombia-pablo-escobars-medellin.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/world/americas/medellin-colombia-pablo-escobar.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer[/URL]

[URL]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/pablo-escobar-hacienda-1980s/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pablo-escobars-abandoned-secret-island-mansion[/URL]

[URL]https://www.messynessychic.com/2012/10/24/the-abandoned-holiday-villas-of-the-pablo-escobar-empire/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2366891]Has anyone been to Pablo Escobar's place recently? If so how was it?

Also is New Life a hit or miss?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2367289]These?:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/world/americas/colombia-pablo-escobars-medellin.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/world/americas/medellin-colombia-pablo-escobar.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer[/URL]

[URL]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/pablo-escobar-hacienda-1980s/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pablo-escobars-abandoned-secret-island-mansion[/URL]

[URL]https://www.messynessychic.com/2012/10/24/the-abandoned-holiday-villas-of-the-pablo-escobar-empire/[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe he meant Loutron?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366966]Please show where it takes hours to negotiate for some pussy. The chick that is in my bed right now it took me all of 3 minutes. Are you coming? How much you give me? $30. Short time? Long time. Okay I am coming.

Had I said well I won't be there until next week, you think I would still be getting a $30 right-now deal? Nope. She would have told me $100 for the strong possibility of me wasting her damn time.

Ouch. Bich just bit my chest. I slapped the shit out of her and bit her back. She said YES! You want to do more? I got a fucking live one.[/QUOTE]What does the "1000" in your text exchange mean? Can't be COPs, $ or Euros under any scenario.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2367310]What does the "1000" in your text exchange mean? Can't be COPs, $ or Euros under any scenario.[/QUOTE]He is talking Thai baht. So $30 usd.

Hi,

I do not have US passport but live in the US and for my passport need a visitor visa to visit Colombia. After I submitted the online application, it says the payment needs to happen in COP with a Colombian debit or credit card which I don't have. Talking to the consulate they say the only alternative is to drive to the nearest consulate in US and Pay in person. Nearest consulate is too far for me. Any suggestions on people who went through this? I don't know anyone in Colombia so I can pay them in USD. We are talking 50 $ initially and $80 after visa approval. Please let me know. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Franga;2367321]He is talking Thai baht. So $30 usd.[/QUOTE]It's odd that he pays the Colombianas in Thai Baht.

Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin for 3 weeks and this will be my first time in Colombia. It will be great if some one can help me find some good indies.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2367216]OK, Surfer, you stumped the chump with this one. What is a sacalero?[/QUOTE]It's a glue sniffer, saca in Spanish means sack, so if you see someone with a small plastic bag that they are inhaling and exhaling into, they are called "Sacaleros". What they do is they put glue which is called pegamento in Spanish in a bag and get high off the solvents such as toluene and naphthalene, or whatever the ingredients that are used in the glue there.

There used to be an area in El Centro called "Sacalero Row" where the Sacalero Chicas would be lined up, and some of them were pretty hot. A couple friends of mine sampled them, some were really spaced out as you can imagine and you could do just about anything you wanted with them. However, they can have bad a stench to them from the chemicals they had been inhaling. Kind of like someone who is a heavy smoker who has a bad odor. There are sacalero's out there if you want to sample one, typically they will be very thin and go with you for very cheap and like I said will do just about anything you want because they are so zonked out. Best to stay away from them, but you could end up with one and not even know it.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2367175]As promised in my earlier post, here are pix of the women I sessioned during my recent trip to Medellin. Nos. 1 through 4 are Angie, No. 5 is Dayana & Valentina, No. 6 is Silvana, No. 7 is Laura.[/QUOTE]Which one is Silvana? And, aren't there only 6 pictures in the collection?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2367357]Which one is Silvana? And, aren't there only 6 pictures in the collection?[/QUOTE]These pic are of the women I reported on in an earlier post ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2366511[/URL]#post2366511). Silvana was a cute, fun chica I met at the Ibiza Motel. Yes, I attempted to post seven pix, but the last pic--the one of Laura--was apparently too big and was rejected by the system. So as things actually posted, Silvana is the woman in the 6th pic. Sorry for the confusion.

You can just use US credit card, it automatic converse COP to dollars. You might get charge international transaction fee, which shouldn't be too much.

[QUOTE=AllAboutTer;2367324]Hi,

I do not have US passport but live in the US and for my passport need a visitor visa to visit Colombia. After I submitted the online application, it says the payment needs to happen in COP with a Colombian debit or credit card which I don't have. Talking to the consulate they say the only alternative is to drive to the nearest consulate in US and Pay in person. Nearest consulate is too far for me. Any suggestions on people who went through this? I don't know anyone in Colombia so I can pay them in USD. We are talking 50 $ initially and $80 after visa approval. Please let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AllAboutTer;2367324]Hi,

I do not have US passport but live in the US and for my passport need a visitor visa to visit Colombia. After I submitted the online application, it says the payment needs to happen in COP with a Colombian debit or credit card which I don't have. Talking to the consulate they say the only alternative is to drive to the nearest consulate in US and Pay in person. Nearest consulate is too far for me. Any suggestions on people who went through this? I don't know anyone in Colombia so I can pay them in USD. We are talking 50 $ initially and $80 after visa approval. Please let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]That just does not sound right at all, that a person who is going to VISIT Colombia from a different country would need to pay for a visitor visa with a Colombian debit or credit card? In Colombian pesos? That's just strange.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367435]That just does not sound right at all, that a person who is going to VISIT Colombia from a different country would need to pay for a visitor visa with a Colombian debit or credit card? In Colombian pesos? That's just strange.[/QUOTE]Yes sounds like a scam. I have applied for visas before, and USD is always an option.

This chica (enjoy her videos also) has over 4,000 friends and it seems that many of the profiles I have in my collection are found on her page, which I imagine means many of the chicas that are friends of hers are also prepagos.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL]

September 4, 2019.

I had sat in Parque Botero most of the day from about 7 am until about 4:30 pm and suddenly, the short haired very athletic built girl from Vennie showed up. This was the 3rd time that I had seen her, but the first time that I was ready to speak to her. The first time I saw her, she had just had a buzz cut and she did not look like a working girl at all. She was always with another girl, so I could not make out if the other girl was her lover, friend, or family. No matter what today, I was ready to talk to her and ask her what it would cost me for Rato? Finally 4 pm came and like clockwork, she showed up and she was with another girl who I thought was her lover, and the other girl actually turned out to be her sister.

Without hesitation I called her over and asked her name even though I already knew her name, I just kicked the game with her and tried to get comfortable with her. She gave me a rate and I was tickled inside about how high her rate was compared to other girl's rates and I just laughed inside and told her to walk to the ATM with me to withdraw some cash. We retrieved the cash and returned to Parque Botero to negotiate a deal. I finally came to an agreement and we headed to my room to chill out and we began to talk and feel each other out and clearly she is new to this and has an issue with this work but really has a necessity to pay to bills.

After talking for about 45 minutes and allowing her to watch youtube videos in my room she finally warmed up and I told her what I wanted and what she was willing to do and she went into shower and returned shortly thereafter. I knew she was nicely built and I was surprised that she had 2 kids. Even with minimal baby damage, you would never know that his girl had any kids or looked like she had kids. What you could see is that at one point in her life she was very athletic or very tomboyish. But she had a body that needed to be utilized. She performed better than norm, better than average and because she could see that I was genuinely interested in her, she gave me a ride and a performance that has her scheduled to see me every day that I am in Medellin until I leave. A short Rato turned into a 4 hour race. I will tell you this, it has been a while since I have actually performed with a chic for a full hour and a half nonstop, but she put in a performance that showed she was in incredible shape and endurance. The funny thing is this, even after a hour and a half of action with this chic, I wanted to go back to repeat the session all over again. That's when you know the session was good. Anyway, she wrote me to ask me when will I be available again, and I told her that Thursday I would be out of action due to my oral surgery, but as soon as I am better, which I am hoping is Friday, she will be the first girl I session with, maybe twice or possibly 3 times. All that I know is that this girl can get it, whenever I am available and whenever she calls. I am in love with Parque Botero and the talent that it presents. I have many other adventures to writer about, but this athletic little spinner was one that I just had to mention. Pollo Negro is Out!

Right? I was surprised too!! Whats the point of having an online application process when I can't pay it online with USD. I even called the Houston Colombian consulate and they confirmed it. Only alternative is for me to drive down there and pay in money order. What a shame.

Basically I am stuck now. I can pay the money in advance to someone or even transfer it to Colombian account if anyone can do it for me.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367435]That just does not sound right at all, that a person who is going to VISIT Colombia from a different country would need to pay for a visitor visa with a Colombian debit or credit card? In Colombian pesos? That's just strange.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367435]That just does not sound right at all, that a person who is going to VISIT Colombia from a different country would need to pay for a visitor visa with a Colombian debit or credit card? In Colombian pesos? That's just strange.[/QUOTE]It would be easier for someone to help him if he said what country his passport is from.

I do recall trying to do something on the Colombian website that did require a credit or debit card issued by a Colombian bank, bit I was in Bogota at the time and instead paid the fee at the Migracion office.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367350]It's a glue sniffer, saca in Spanish means sack, so if you see someone with a small plastic bag that they are inhaling and exhaling into, they are called "Sacaleros". What they do is they put glue which is called pegamento in Spanish in a bag and get high off the solvents such as toluene and naphthalene, or whatever the ingredients that are used in the glue there.

There used to be an area in El Centro called "Sacalero Row" where the Sacalero Chicas would be lined up, and some of them were pretty hot. A couple friends of mine sampled them, some were really spaced out as you can imagine and you could do just about anything you wanted with them. However, they can have bad a stench to them from the chemicals they had been inhaling. Kind of like someone who is a heavy smoker who has a bad odor. There are sacalero's out there if you want to sample one, typically they will be very thin and go with you for very cheap and like I said will do just about anything you want because they are so zonked out. Best to stay away from them, but you could end up with one and not even know it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the fill. I think that's something I'll leave to those who are little more on the edge than I am!

Pollo Negro was with me ask him if I paid them before. Absolutely not, pay a SW upfront and you might as well set your money on fire. You'll get from your too big, hurry to any any every excuse out. No I would tell them what I'll give them if the BBBJ is on point.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2366586]You prepaid a SW? Should have read that brother's report a couple months ago who got ripped off doing that.[/QUOTE]

I normally hangout with FB Chica, so I'm quite clueless about Centro but I'm always open to new things LOL.

What is the normal rate for Centro? Do you just go to one of those love motel around there or they come with you to your hotel. I usually stay in Laureles, so is there a love motel near by if the girls doesn't want to go back with me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2367447]September 4, 2019.

I had sat in Parque Botero most of the day from about 7 am until about 4:30 pm and suddenly, the short haired very athletic built girl from Vennie showed up. This was the 3rd time that I had seen her, but the first time that I was ready to speak to her. The first time I saw her, she had just had a buzz cut and she did not look like a working girl at all. She was always with another girl, so I could not make out if the other girl was her lover, friend, or family. No matter what today, I was ready to talk to her and ask her what it would cost me for Rato? Finally 4 pm came and like clockwork, she showed up and she was with another girl who I thought was her lover, and the other girl actually turned out to be her sister.

Without hesitation I called her over and asked her name even though I already knew her name, I just kicked the game with her and tried to get comfortable with her. She gave me a rate and I was tickled inside about how high her rate was compared to other girl's rates and I just laughed inside and told her to walk to the ATM with me to withdraw some cash. We retrieved the cash and returned to Parque Botero to negotiate a deal. I finally came to an agreement and we headed to my room to chill out and we began to talk and feel each other out and clearly she is new to this and has an issue with this work but really has a necessity to pay to bills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2367289]These?:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/world/americas/colombia-pablo-escobars-medellin.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/world/americas/medellin-colombia-pablo-escobar.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer[/URL]

[URL]https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/pablo-escobar-hacienda-1980s/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pablo-escobars-abandoned-secret-island-mansion[/URL]

[URL]https://www.messynessychic.com/2012/10/24/the-abandoned-holiday-villas-of-the-pablo-escobar-empire/[/URL][/QUOTE]I was told it's a massage parlor now but their expertise isn't massages.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2367641]I normally hangout with FB Chica, so I'm quite clueless about Centro but I'm always open to new things LOL.

What is the normal rate for Centro? Do you just go to one of those love motel around there or they come with you to your hotel. I usually stay in Laureles, so is there a love motel near by if the girls doesn't want to go back with me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't bring an EL Centro WG you have no history with to where your staying. Most of them have never done that anyways. The SW's will guide you to a love motel, plenty around varying in price from 5 K up, and you get what you pay for. Prices vary from as low as 20 K and up for the Chicas. If you don't have Spanish speaking skills you probably shouldn't sample the merchandise there, but others have. Again be very cautious there. Good Luck.

Thanks for the info. I'm kinda picky so I probably look for the hottest girls around. What is the max I should pay for these girls? No need for a newbie ruining the price. And what is a decent love motel there? I hate to fuck in a shit hole, it probably ruins the mood LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367729]I wouldn't bring an EL Centro WG you have no history with to where your staying. Most of them have never done that anyways. The SW's will guide you to a love motel, plenty around varying in price from 5 K up, and you get what you pay for. Prices vary from as low as 20 K and up for the Chicas. If you don't have Spanish speaking skills you probably shouldn't sample the merchandise there, but others have. Again be very cautious there. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]

A love motel tryout makes a lot of sense. It takes a lot of stress and risk out of the equation and makes it easy to cut losses and move on if the date doesn't go well. Language ability is always helpful but it's not a deal breaker. All the steps are laid out in detail here many times. A hand motion toward one of the hotels will seal the deal.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367729]I wouldn't bring an EL Centro WG you have no history with to where your staying. Most of them have never done that anyways. The SW's will guide you to a love motel, plenty around varying in price from 5 K up, and you get what you pay for. Prices vary from as low as 20 K and up for the Chicas. If you don't have Spanish speaking skills you probably shouldn't sample the merchandise there, but others have. Again be very cautious there. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367444]This chica (enjoy her videos also) has over 4,000 friends and it seems that many of the profiles I have in my collection are found on her page, which I imagine means many of the chicas that are friends of hers are also prepagos.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL][/QUOTE]I never seen this girl in any of my Medellin trips, but I have 10 friends in common with her and all 10 of those are prepagos (some from Tinder too).

[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2367787]I never seen this girl in any of my Medellin trips, but I have 10 friends in common with her and all 10 of those are prepagos (some from Tinder too).[/QUOTE]I do not do facebook, but I have 14 friends in common with her, and all 14 of those are mongers. I am more than twice her age, have been around the world 800 times, been in the military, college, grad school, and have less than 2,000 friends on facebook. She is 21, from Medellin and lives in Medellin and has 5,000. Got damn!

Trip Report.

September 6, 2019.

Had a great day today, met up with Nounce and VsebudetNY and we hung out in Parque Botero. In the beginning it was just VsebudetNY and I. So we kicked the chit chat and watched girls come and go, then later on Nounce told me he had returned to Centro so we linked up again and it was all 3 of us in the park just observing the girls. The new chic that I had met, had wrote me earlier and after talking with VsebudetNY I had a feel for what kind of girl he liked and Nounce had already told me what kind of girl he liked, so I put the word out about what we were looking for and what do you know. My new girl had a really nice looking thin white friend, and she also had a very cute sister. So like the 3 musketeers 3 ISG mongers were off to do what we do best.

As you know, I already made it clear that I really liked the new girl's athletic build and we can converse about almost anything, so the date with her was really great. Nounce said he liked his girl and VsebudetNY said his girl was really good so he was inviting her over tomorrow for another round. It was Friday and there were girls everywhere, I am glad that I was able to help my fellow mongers find what they were looking for and we also have plans to hang out today just to see what is on the menu. With so many girls and so little time what is a monger to do. Centro is the place to be if you like SWs. I won't discuss specific prices because prices differ, the SWs can range from 25 mil to 50 mil depending on how your negotiating skills are and the time you want to spend with the girl. I also have another monger friend who frequently gets freebies because the girls just like him. Many girls give me really low rates because they see me in the park every day and they want to earn some pesos as well. I stick to my little group of girls that I like and rarely do I change unless one of my current girls gives another girl a recommendation. So far that kind of system has worked for me. I up out of bed and ready to see what Parque Botero has to offer today. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2367642]I was told it's a massage parlor now but their expertise isn't massages.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what use a dead guy has for a massage Parlor.

Are you perhaps talking about Loutron? There are plenty of reviews in the forum.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2367803]I do not do facebook, but I have 14 friends in common with her, and all 14 of those are mongers. I am more than twice her age, have been around the world 800 times, been in the military, college, grad school, and have less than 2,000 friends on facebook. She is 21, from Medellin and lives in Medellin and has 5,000. Got damn![/QUOTE]She's got better tits than you.

[QUOTE=TriFreak;2367538]Pollo Negro was with me ask him if I paid them before. Absolutely not, pay a SW upfront and you might as well set your money on fire. You'll get from your too big, hurry to any any every excuse out. No I would tell them what I'll give them if the BBBJ is on point.[/QUOTE]Before hand, but we were not going to pay the girls the bare minimum. If the job was well done, I always give a small tip. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2367755]Thanks for the info. I'm kinda picky so I probably look for the hottest girls around. What is the max I should pay for these girls? No need for a newbie ruining the price. And what is a decent love motel there? I hate to fuck in a shit hole, it probably ruins the mood LOL.[/QUOTE]For someone looking for SW hotties and decent love motels, that may be a tall order to fill for someone based on their personal tastes in El Centro.

However, since you sound your like not afraid of your own shadow, I suggest you park yourself in front of the Premium Plaza Hotel about 100 feet away from the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which will have a large street sign identifying this location in what I call ground zero in EL Centro.

Just hang there in the afternoon around 4 PM and all kinds of girls will be walking around, etc. When you find something you like, don't agree to pay any more than 30 K, use this as a benchmark because some of the girls will ask for more from a foreigner but almost will all go for this amount as it is more than the locals pay.

Use the Hotel Premium Plaza, I think about 16 K, very clean, hot water, and they check ID's. If the girl suggests somewhere else, say no, not that are aren't other Hotels, but this will be your safest bet. It actually serves as a secondary Police Station for the cops there, they give them coffee, they use the Internet, etc. So don't get alarmed if you see cops there.

Please report back on your experience and don't worry about ruining this place for others, it's mostly for locals and the other street rats on this board.

Having banged hundreds of Colombians over the years I have come to the conclusion that the brown skinned Colombians who are a mixture of all the races to be found there are much more zestful in bed than their fairer or darker compatriots. Does anyone else have that experience? Yesterday I sessioned this chica who fucked the hell out of me. She just could not stop gyrating in spite of whatever sexual position we assumed. After awhile my balls were beginning to hurt. I would tell her to calm down and she would for a few seconds but then would start again with gusto. In doggy I just stayed still while she manipulated my manhood to climax with her lady parts better than a wanking hand could. Reminds me of aching balls after the event with Susan at Abydos some years ago. Same mixture. Can't forget these girls.

I haven't noticed this. It may be that my sample size isn't as big as yours. I've had incredibly good, average and basic, and dreadfully bad experiences that haven't lined up along racial lines. I can understand the idea but I have serious doubts about it based on my own experience. Broad generalizations lead to stereotypes like Asians have high mathematics aptitude, Russians are spies or organized crime members, and. People with dark skin are lazy and hyper sexual.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367971]Having banged hundreds of Colombians over the years I have come to the conclusion that the brown skinned Colombians who are a mixture of all the races to be found there are much more zestful in bed than their fairer or darker compatriots. Does anyone else have that experience? Yesterday I sessioned this chica who fucked the hell out of me. She just could not stop gyrating in spite of whatever sexual position we assumed. After awhile my balls were beginning to hurt. I would tell her to calm down and she would for a few seconds but then would start again with gusto. In doggy I just stayed still while she manipulated my manhood to climax with her lady parts better than a wanking hand could. Reminds me of aching balls after the event with Susan at Abydos some years ago. Same mixture. Can't forget these girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367941]For someone looking for SW hotties and decent love motels, that may be a tall order to fill for someone based on their personal tastes in El Centro.

However, since you sound your like not afraid of your own shadow, I suggest you park yourself in front of the Premium Plaza Hotel about 100 feet away from the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which will have a large street sign identifying this location in what I call ground zero in EL Centro.

Just hang there in the afternoon around 4 PM and all kinds of girls will be walking around, etc. When you find something you like, don't agree to pay any more than 30 K, use this as a benchmark because some of the girls will ask for more from a foreigner but almost will all go for this amount as it is more than the locals pay.

Use the Hotel Premium Plaza, I think about 16 K, very clean, hot water, and they check ID's. If the girl suggests somewhere else, say no, not that are aren't other Hotels, but this will be your safest bet. It actually serves as a secondary Police Station for the cops there, they give them coffee, they use the Internet, etc. So don't get alarmed if you see cops there.

Please report back on your experience and don't worry about ruining this place for others, it's mostly for locals and the other street rats on this board.[/QUOTE]Thank you! So, I gather the hotel cost is typically not included in the 30 k price?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367941]For someone looking for SW hotties and decent love motels, that may be a tall order to fill for someone based on their personal tastes in El Centro.

However, since you sound your like not afraid of your own shadow, I suggest you park yourself in front of the Premium Plaza Hotel about 100 feet away from the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which will have a large street sign identifying this location in what I call ground zero in EL Centro.

Just hang there in the afternoon around 4 PM and all kinds of girls will be walking around, etc. When you find something you like, don't agree to pay any more than 30 K, use this as a benchmark because some of the girls will ask for more from a foreigner but almost will all go for this amount as it is more than the locals pay.

Use the Hotel Premium Plaza, I think about 16 K, very clean, hot water, and they check ID's. If the girl suggests somewhere else, say no, not that are aren't other Hotels, but this will be your safest bet. It actually serves as a secondary Police Station for the cops there, they give them coffee, they use the Internet, etc. So don't get alarmed if you see cops there.

Please report back on your experience and don't worry about ruining this place for others, it's mostly for locals and the other street rats on this board.[/QUOTE]Mr. Surf Man. You just wrote the book on giving some of the best info ever given out to a fellow Monger. I have never heard anyone of giving out the exact location to snare prey, and what to do with your catch when you reel them in.

Good work. I think the fellow owes you a brew or two.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2367444]This chica (enjoy her videos also) has over 4,000 friends and it seems that many of the profiles I have in my collection are found on her page, which I imagine means many of the chicas that are friends of hers are also prepagos.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100013855683122[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried out this girl in June. Gave decent service, including bbj, though I didn't think her GFE was as good as her friends. Paid 200 + 50 for taxi. I agree her friend's list is a goldmine for those who want to build up their facebook contacts.

Thanks again for the advices. I've been to Tijuana & Santa fe in Bogota before. I'm very picky so I rarely find a SW that I like but I want to checkout the place since I keep hearing everyone raving about it.

I like hotels that check ID, I don't need problem with girls under 18 but does that exclude all the Venezuelans since most don't have passports.

I will definitely report back if I pick any SW

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2367941]For someone looking for SW hotties and decent love motels, that may be a tall order to fill for someone based on their personal tastes in El Centro.

However, since you sound your like not afraid of your own shadow, I suggest you park yourself in front of the Premium Plaza Hotel about 100 feet away from the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which will have a large street sign identifying this location in what I call ground zero in EL Centro.

Just hang there in the afternoon around 4 PM and all kinds of girls will be walking around, etc. When you find something you like, don't agree to pay any more than 30 K, use this as a benchmark because some of the girls will ask for more from a foreigner but almost will all go for this amount as it is more than the locals pay.

Use the Hotel Premium Plaza, I think about 16 K, very clean, hot water, and they check ID's. If the girl suggests somewhere else, say no, not that are aren't other Hotels, but this will be your safest bet. It actually serves as a secondary Police Station for the cops there, they give them coffee, they use the Internet, etc. So don't get alarmed if you see cops there.

Please report back on your experience and don't worry about ruining this place for others, it's mostly for locals and the other street rats on this board.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2367993]Thank you! So, I gather the hotel cost is typically not included in the 30 k price?[/QUOTE]Not at the place I mentioned.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2367983]I haven't noticed this. It may be that my sample size isn't as big as yours. I've had incredibly good, average and basic, and dreadfully bad experiences that haven't lined up along racial lines. I can understand the idea but I have serious doubts about it based on my own experience. Broad generalizations lead to stereotypes like Asians have high mathematics aptitude, Russians are spies or organized crime members, and. People with dark skin are lazy and hyper sexual.[/QUOTE]Maybe he imagines as though he is with someone from the jungle when he is with someone with brown skin. Perhaps a little rough, and / or crude, exotic, and untamed coming from the wild. Nothing wrong with that at all.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2367993]Thank you! So, I gather the hotel cost is typically not included in the 30 k price?[/QUOTE]You have to be kidding. 30 K is less than $10, and you want a hotel room included?

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2367993]Thank you! So, I gather the hotel cost is typically not included in the 30 k price?[/QUOTE]Someone posted the following in the Hotel section yesterday:

"If you're just planning on picking up girls off the street all day you need to be in El Centro, or Mayorista. The girls can all lead you to a room for 10 k. Or you can pay a little more to find your own room. Unless the rates have gone up the short time rooms in Mayorista are 16-17 k. ".

Whatever you do, don't think in terms of American dollars unless you are exchanging dollars in a Casa de Cambio or something like that. People in El Centro don't think in terms of dollars and you shouldn't either. A lot depends on your negotiation skills as far as the chicas.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2368067]You have to be kidding. 30 K is less than $10, and you want a hotel room included?[/QUOTE]My bad. My first trip isn't until later this year, so the currency conversions aren't second nature to me yet.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2368022]Thanks again for the advices. I've been to Tijuana & Santa fe in Bogota before. I'm very picky so I rarely find a SW that I like but I want to checkout the place since I keep hearing everyone raving about it.[/QUOTE]If you didn't find a chick in Santa Fe you are damn sure not going to find one in the area under discussion. There are tons more chicks in Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=Fun Luvr;2368067]You have to be kidding. 30 K is less than $10, and you want a hotel room included?[/QUOTE]LOL.. And I thought I was cheap!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2368067]You have to be kidding. 30 K is less than $10, and you want a hotel room included?[/QUOTE]There are some Chicas in El Centro who do quote prices of 30 K including the room to the locals and others, however you have to clarify this, and it won't be a place you will really want to go to.

However, at an exchange rate of 3400 Pesos to the USD, that would be $ 8.82 USD for all the cheap charlies out there. It's true, believe it or not. So start saving your money now so you can afford this place if you can handle it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367971]Having banged hundreds of Colombians over the years I have come to the conclusion that the brown skinned Colombians who are a mixture of all the races to be found there are much more zestful in bed than their fairer or darker compatriots. Does anyone else have that experience? Yesterday I sessioned this chica who fucked the hell out of me. She just could not stop gyrating in spite of whatever sexual position we assumed. After awhile my balls were beginning to hurt. I would tell her to calm down and she would for a few seconds but then would start again with gusto. In doggy I just stayed still while she manipulated my manhood to climax with her lady parts better than a wanking hand could. Reminds me of aching balls after the event with Susan at Abydos some years ago. Same mixture. Can't forget these girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, but.

Most of the Colombians I have been with are mixed. However, if I'm picking at a club or casa, 70% of the decision is based on attitude, rather than looks or shape. That's yielded some of the best results. Probably the top 5, for zestful fucking were 2 black, 2 mixed and 1 white. Top 10 probably 2,5 and 3 respectively.

I've taken girls on trips with me before and always had a good time. I always session with them before so as to get to know them well before going. There is always the one case where the girl is a total waste of time and money and it happened to me. Fortunately it was just for one night at guatape with spectacular views of the mountain. Unfortunately this time it is was not a good time. This girl looked miserable from the start even though it was her idea to go? She didn't want to go to the pool nor take pics or take a boat ride on a beautiful river. During the night I wanted to have sex and she said she wasn't in the mood? Early in the morning she said she needed to go home for an emergency. The emergency was that her sister needed money she owed her to buy a cell phone. I told her she can wait for the Uber ride. She got all pissy at me and I asked her why she even wanted to go? She said she just wanted money. Anyways I swam in the pool and enjoyed the sun on a beach lounge chair while she waited for hours. Strange the sessions with her before were very passionate. I brought her nice gifts since I knew her before. Someone told me that if I were to go to Santa Marta or Cartagena I may be better off getting a girl there. They may be right but then again this was my first bad experience. Pm me if a contributing member wants her name.

FWIW. Local news is broadcasting that Venezuelans are showing up in the streets of Bello (outside of MDE) - and not voluntarily. They are reporting that the girls are forced into Prostitution. Only mentioning be / see this shines a pretty bad light on Mongering. FYI.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368051]Maybe he imagines as though he is with someone from the jungle when he is with someone with brown skin. Perhaps a little rough, and / or crude, exotic, and untamed coming from the wild. Nothing wrong with that at all.[/QUOTE]Hey Surfer that statement only applies to people wasn't born of dark complected skin. It's hard as hell to get most of my African-American friends to session with darker complexion Chicas. Jamaicans will give 10 years off their lives to never go back to Black.

I was recently involved with a Jamaican female. I caught her on line soliciting white men for companionship. Though she was particular about the white guys she liked; anytime someone of darker complexion showed interest in her she would delete or disregard Requests. She's a very sexy girl however she does not have the facial features that immediately gain the attention of most white guys. One guy asked her was she a dude. LOL. She didn't quite understand. Me having both African-American and Caucasian friends and in this monger games for a while; I understood exactly what he was thinking.

The imagination is a private place where there is no wrong or right. Problems begin when the imagination is projected onto or confused with real life.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368051]Maybe he imagines as though he is with someone from the jungle when he is with someone with brown skin. Perhaps a little rough, and / or crude, exotic, and untamed coming from the wild. Nothing wrong with that at all.[/QUOTE]

Your results and tactics are more in line with mine, with one difference. I very rarely go to clubs. I am a Centro rat.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2368269]Yes, but.

Most of the Colombians I have been with are mixed. However, if I'm picking at a club or casa, 70% of the decision is based on attitude, rather than looks or shape. That's yielded some of the best results. Probably the top 5, for zestful fucking were 2 black, 2 mixed and 1 white. Top 10 probably 2,5 and 3 respectively.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2368347]Hey Surfer that statement only applies to people wasn't born of dark complected skin. It's hard as hell to get most of my African-American friends to session with darker complexion Chicas. Jamaicans will give 10 years off their lives to never go back to Black.

I was recently involved with a Jamaican female. I caught her on line soliciting white men for companionship. Though she was particular about the white guys she liked; anytime someone of darker complexion showed interest in her she would delete or disregard Requests. She's a very sexy girl however she does not have the facial features that immediately gain the attention of most white guys. One guy asked her was she a dude. LOL. She didn't quite understand. Me having both African-American and Caucasian friends and in this monger games for a while; I understood exactly what he was thinking.[/QUOTE]Where have you been, and when are we going to see you in El Centro?

I get your point, and you are correct, "once you go black you won't go back" more aptly would apply to Caucasians. I can't think of a catchy phrase for "Once you go white you xyz. Maybe you can fill in the blanks.

If you haven't been to Medellin lately you need to make an appearance. The landscape in El Centro has changed dramatically and I am sure you would find something you like there.

Maybe Mr E will be around as well when your in town and you can give him some pointers!

My opinion about the following facts is they are related:

- Medellin is in the midst of a tense mayoral election campaign.

- The Bello crime wave has been in the national news for a few months now.

- Venezuelan refugees / immigrants in Colombia are a hot button issue savvy politicians use to stoke nationalism similar to what you see recently in the US and northern Europe with other immigrant groups.

Draw your own conclusions.

[QUOTE=Cbmcpa;2368313]FWIW. Local news is broadcasting that Venezuelans are showing up in the streets of Bello (outside of MDE) - and not voluntarily. They are reporting that the girls are forced into Prostitution. Only mentioning be / see this shines a pretty bad light on Mongering. FYI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2368306]I've taken girls on trips with me before and always had a good time. I always session with them before so as to get to know them well before going. There is always the one case where the girl is a total waste of time and money and it happened to me. Fortunately it was just for one night at guatape with spectacular views of the mountain. Unfortunately this time it is was not a good time. This girl looked miserable from the start even though it was her idea to go? She didn't want to go to the pool nor take pics or take a boat ride on a beautiful river. During the night I wanted to have sex and she said she wasn't in the mood? Early in the morning she said she needed to go home for an emergency. The emergency was that her sister needed money she owed her to buy a cell phone. I told her she can wait for the Uber ride. She got all pissy at me and I asked her why she even wanted to go? She said she just wanted money. Anyways I swam in the pool and enjoyed the sun on a beach lounge chair while she waited for hours. Strange the sessions with her before were very passionate. I brought her nice gifts since I knew her before. Someone told me that if I were to go to Santa Marta or Cartagena I may be better off getting a girl there. They may be right but then again this was my first bad experience. Pm me if a contributing member wants her name.[/QUOTE]About a decade ago when I had zero experience with Colombianas, I once propositioned a stunning chica from Barranquilla I met online on one of the cupids to spend a weekend with me in Cartagena, I took a bus over to Barranquilla and took her to dinner and we had wildly great sex that first night, but once we were in Cartagena, she was always on the phone over some "emergency" at home. We had so so sex a couple of times but it was mostly misery for me. This girl had previously been an high class hooker that serviced the Gatherings at the OAS in Panama. She was an incredibly beautiful and incredibly built and incredibly needy and a poor actress.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2368347]Hey Surfer that statement only applies to people wasn't born of dark complected skin. It's hard as hell to get most of my African-American friends to session with darker complexion Chicas. Jamaicans will give 10 years off their lives to never go back to Black.

I was recently involved with a Jamaican female. I caught her on line soliciting white men for companionship. Though she was particular about the white guys she liked; anytime someone of darker complexion showed interest in her she would delete or disregard Requests. She's a very sexy girl however she does not have the facial features that immediately gain the attention of most white guys. One guy asked her was she a dude. LOL. She didn't quite understand. Me having both African-American and Caucasian friends and in this monger games for a while; I understood exactly what he was thinking.[/QUOTE]I'm a mixed race guy from Jamaica & tbh when I travel I don't want a black girl during my mongering trips for the simple fact that Jamaica is 95% black people, I travel because I'm searching for something different + I've always loved hispanic women. Just thought I had to chime in considering that you brought up my country men.

I'm looking to book a flight in the next day or so. I am noticing that in my searches many of the return flights, especially ones that have decent duration, leave Medellin at like 4:20 AM, I assume I need to be there 2 hours early, though I doubt I'll be fighting crowds and standing in long lines at O'dark thirty. So can most building personnel call a taxi around the clock? And what is a safe but realistic time to get to Medellin airport for an international flight?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368470]I'm looking to book a flight in the next day or so. I am noticing that in my searches many of the return flights, especially ones that have decent duration, leave Medellin at like 4:20 AM, I assume I need to be there 2 hours early, though I doubt I'll be fighting crowds and standing in long lines at O'dark thirty. So can most building personnel call a taxi around the clock? And what is a safe but realistic time to get to Medellin airport for an international flight?[/QUOTE]Yes you can get a taxi at midnight and take that to the airport.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368470]I'm looking to book a flight in the next day or so. I am noticing that in my searches many of the return flights, especially ones that have decent duration, leave Medellin at like 4:20 AM, I assume I need to be there 2 hours early, though I doubt I'll be fighting crowds and standing in long lines at O'dark thirty. So can most building personnel call a taxi around the clock? And what is a safe but realistic time to get to Medellin airport for an international flight?[/QUOTE]Most properties either a Hotel or apartment building with 24 hour security (Porteros) should be able to call you a cab. And a flight at 4:20 AM will pose no travel issues, however the Tunnel will be closed so best to leave Medellin three hours before your flight to play it safe.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368363]Where have you been, and when are we going to see you in El Centro?

I get your point, and you are correct, "once you go black you won't go back" more aptly would apply to Caucasians. I can't think of a catchy phrase for "Once you go white you xyz. Maybe you can fill in the blanks.

If you haven't been to Medellin lately you need to make an appearance. The landscape in El Centro has changed dramatically and I am sure you would find something you like there.

Maybe Mr E will be around as well when your in town and you can give him some pointers![/QUOTE]I went to Medellin earlier this year. I wrote a report here and soliciting help. Only a couple of mongers Brother responded. You were in the Tijuana tread. You popped back on the scene. A little later. I think I will be back sometime this month I am weighing my ticket options. I look forward to street walking with you.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368475]Most properties either a Hotel or apartment building with 24 hour security (Porteros) should be able to call you a cab. And a flight at 4:20 AM will pose no travel issues, however the Tunnel will be closed so best to leave Medellin three hours before your flight to play it safe.[/QUOTE]Thank You, I keep reading things on here about this tunnel but did not know that it closes at certain times, I am going to have to research this further. Can anyone tell me the longest it has taken for them to get to their gate from the time they got to the airport. Flying out of Cartagena can be a hassle so Medellin, previous home of the notorious cartel, must be the same. In Cartagena they unpacked my luggage and sent me upstairs to be full bodied xrayed.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368486]Thank You, I keep reading things on here about this tunnel but did not know that it closes at certain times, I am going to have to research this further. Can anyone tell me the longest it has taken for them to get to their gate from the time they got to the airport. Flying out of Cartagena can be a hassle so Medellin, previous home of the notorious cartel, must be the same. In Cartagena they unpacked my luggage and sent me upstairs to be full bodied xrayed.[/QUOTE]I had a 2:30 AM flight once. There was no delay. The airport was empty on the airside. Another time I arrived late and pretty much walked straight out after immigration, no custom declaration form, no one checking luggage.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368470]I'm looking to book a flight in the next day or so. I am noticing that in my searches many of the return flights, especially ones that have decent duration, leave Medellin at like 4:20 AM, I assume I need to be there 2 hours early, though I doubt I'll be fighting crowds and standing in long lines at O'dark thirty. So can most building personnel call a taxi around the clock? And what is a safe but realistic time to get to Medellin airport for an international flight?[/QUOTE]I just came back today from Medellin. My flight was at 2:10 AM. I took the LAST 10 PM bus from El Centro - 100 feet from the entrance to Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel. The cost is 10.000 COP. The trip took 55 min. There were 2 more passengers in the bus. Nice and comfortable.

This is huge, I have never been to el Centro, and I don't scare easily so ill meander around and see what I can come up with. I will report back, and give a run down of the current situation at the Manson. I do know room 109 is down and anyone with that room booked right now is being put into M2. Not sure how long it will be down for.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366844]That would be Mayorista. Now that you mention it, there is a bit of a Tijuana feel to it. To get there take the Metro south (Niquia is the north end, Las Estrellas is the south) to Ayura station. After you come up the stairs and exit, turn left. You'll go through a few blocks that might look scary to you. Lots of street vendors. Just keep walking west, past the gas station. When you get to the casino "Paraguas", you've arrived. Mayorista is located in Itagui.

El Centro is north from El Poblado and the Mansion. You'll probably want to take a taxi. Tell them Plaza Botero. If you're feeling cheap and adventurous hop on one of the yellow buses going north. I think they're 2200 pesos now. You'll need to pay attention. I usually get off around Parque San Antonio, but you'll probably want to go a few blocks further. Just push the button by the rear door when you want the driver to stop.

You can pick up girls around Parque Lleras, but you'll pay a premium. The selection is very slim until after 10 pm. You can often find girls in the various clubs. Prices start high and go up to ridiculous. Some are scammers. I remember one cute girl trying to talk me into a 3 some and the other one certainly looked like a trannie.

Honestly, your best bet, if you're staying at the Mansion, is to get Facebook info from the girls there. Then mine their friend lists for more girls. You're paying more to stay there. You may as well get the most out of it.

If you want to venture out more, which is a good thing, I recommend using the Metro. You can hop on a bus along Avenida Poblado, going north to Parque Poblado. Get off and go down the hill on Calle 10. That will take you to the Poblado station. Go north (north, and, Niquia, remember) to Parque Berrio. This is your starting point.

Exit the station into the plaza area. There will be a big crowd of people. You're going to need to get used to them, because you'll find lots of people in El Centro. If you find yourself in an area with very few people, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Find a clear spot on the steps and sit down.

After a few minutes you'll realize they're just normal people, going about their business. There are girls with Thermos selling tinto (coffee) and there are people talking. Once you recognize it's not a dangerous mob of criminals, it's time to take a walk.

Walk down the steps and head north. You'll see a pink Flamingo store to the right. Ahead, to the left is the Palace of Culture. You can't miss it. It's built from alternating dark and light gray blocks. Turn left, cross under the Metro and walk west. The palace will be on your right, a line of shops on the left. You are entering the south end of Plaza Botero.

Walk around Plaza Botero. Admire the statues. Admire the women. Look for some landmarks. The first one is an old, white church, Iglesia Veracruz. It's at the southwest corner of Plaza Botero. The other landmark is the Museum of Antioquia which is western border or the plaza, along the northern half.

Before you venture further it's time for a warning. Your phone should be kept in your front pants pocket. Your money should be in the other front pants pocket. Do not let anyone grab ahold of you, put their arms around you or get too close. Some of the working girls, especially the trannies, can be aggressive. If someone reaches for you, block them with your hand and say "no. " Usually that's enough.

Now comes the scary part (for some people). Alongside the church is a walking street. Head west alongside the church. Stay to the middle or the left. The trannies usually lineup against the side of the church. At the corner you'll see several working girls. To the left (south) is a casino. Just past the casino there may be some girls sitting in a stairway. You won't find much else in that direction.

Head north. Both sides of the street are lined with working girls. Some might call to you, some will click their tongues at you. Continue north until you come to a big opening on the right. This will take you back to Plaza Botero.

If you're not ready to run back to the Mansion, start expanding your walk. There's plenty to see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368486]Can anyone tell me the longest it has taken for them to get to their gate from the time they got to the airport.[/QUOTE]5 minutes.

I am planning the next trip to Medellin and would like to combine cycling / hiking activities with mongering. I know there are one days bike rides / trekking trips I can sign up for but wanted to find out any recommendations for multi-day bike rides / trekking program. I am an new cyclist but would love the ride the hills of Medellin, especially the one that takes you to the airport. I am planning a 4-5 day trip.

Thanks!

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2368573]Attention internet shoppers, attention internet shoppers:

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I'm guessing after that line he ain't getting it any more.

Trip Report.

September 8th 2019.

I was sitting in parque Botero early as I usually do, checking out the lineup and learning new things about Centro. On the first Saturday of the month, they hold something like a flea market at Parque Botero. So I really did not like Saturday that much as the park is overcrowded. On Sunday, as I was saying, I was at Parque Botero early and I was watching the lineup and after speaking to a few regulars a new Vennies shows up and she's impaired and crying and cursing and looking over at me. I quickly moved and walked around Vera Cruz and returned. Once I realized that today would be kind of slow, I decided early that I would return to my room.

Here's a really good tip, no matter how much you like a girl out here when you are mongering, remember you are a monger and you are paying for services. After looking over my choices, I decided that I would wait until my favorite New Vennie showed up and I would ask her best friend for a date. So around 3 pm I began writing her and sure enough she tried me with, you dated my friend, and I replied, if you don't want the date, then I will look for someone else. She replied, no, I will be there as I need the date. So around 4:30 pm the best friend and I finally linked up.

For many of my monger friends that I met in person, many of them have wanted skinny, white, young girls. I am here to tell you, that this is one of the smoothest young girls I have ever laid eyes on. I am usually a nice curvy, big booty type of guy, but this girl was something different in a very good way. She is all of 5 foot tall and weighs about 88 lbs with the most beautiful set of Tatas. After a quick rump with her, I decided that I would keep her for a couple of hours and I also told her that I want to see her every day that I am here until I leave. I will also fit her best friend in daily as well. If anything new comes along, I will make arrangements to fit the newbies in as well. This has been an amazing trip thus far and I am enjoying every minute of it. Pollo Negro is out!

I also find that keeping the same sexual consistency with a provider is difficult. I have had many girls that I considered at one time my number 1 girl to go to but drop them as their performance goes down. One of the reasons I have so many contacts

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2368451]About a decade ago when I had zero experience with Colombianas, I once propositioned a stunning chica from Barranquilla I met online on one of the cupids to spend a weekend with me in Cartagena, I took a bus over to Barranquilla and took her to dinner and we had wildly great sex that first night, but once we were in Cartagena, she was always on the phone over some "emergency" at home. We had so so sex a couple of times but it was mostly misery for me. This girl had previously been an high class hooker that serviced the Gatherings at the OAS in Panama. She was an incredibly beautiful and incredibly built and incredibly needy and a poor actress.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368363]...........I get your point, and you are correct, "once you go black you won't go back" more aptly would apply to Caucasians. I can't think of a catchy phrase for "Once you go white you xyz. ........[/QUOTE]Once you go white you know that its outtasight.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368660]Once you go white you know that its outtasight.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you mean't to say, "Once you go white, nothing else feels right" or perhaps "Once you go white, your screwed" or perhaps "Once you go white, your doomed" or perhaps "Once you go white, you won't again". Try to make up your mind here and choose the one that would apply to you.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2368499]I just came back today from Medellin. My flight was at 2:10 AM. I took the LAST 10 PM bus from El Centro - 100 feet from the entrance to Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel. The cost is 10.000 COP. The trip took 55 min. There were 2 more passengers in the bus. Nice and comfortable.[/QUOTE]This is good information for others staying in El Centro, very cheap and dependable service which I have used a few times.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368740]This is good information for others staying in El Centro, very cheap and dependable service which I have used a few times.[/QUOTE]I would say. Even you aren't staying in El Centro. Take taxi to Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel or to San Diego and get into the bus. It will be cheaper, safer and more comfortable for sure.

For people who live in the center and north of the city. Schedule your trip to the airport from Nutibara-Centro, Medellin.

Address: race 50 A # 53-13.

Schedule: Sunday to Sunday 4:00 am - 10:00 pm.

Tel: (4)xxxx023.

Route San Diego. Airport. Combuses SA.

Access our airport shuttle service from San Diego, in Medellin. This office is designed for people who live in the south of the city.

Address: Calle 36 # 45-14.

Hours: Sunday to Sunday 3:30 am - 10:00 pm.

Tel: (4) xxxx228.

[URL]http://www.combuses.com/RutasAeropuerto.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368738]Perhaps you mean't to say, "Once you go white, nothing else feels right" or perhaps "Once you go white, your screwed" or perhaps "Once you go white, your doomed" or perhaps "Once you go white, you won't again". Try to make up your mind here and choose the one that would apply to you.[/QUOTE]Surf, it must rhyme with white.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368863]Surf, it must rhyme with white.[/QUOTE]Late 60's / early 70's, I believed that if you wanted someone who could really go the distance and would try anything, then you'd pick a fully grown, American white girl. They were down for anything! Now, I'm not so sure;.

So this afternoon I chose big butt Paula from Chicas punto com. I saw her on previous visits but chose others. I've always wanted to do her and did so today. We entered the room, undressed and hit the cama. She immediately accosted my johnson with BBBJ. I laid back and enjoyed the sensations. She varied her technique which I liked a lot. When I felt a different sensation I looked at her to check on what she was doing, invariably she was focussing on a different part of Mr. Johnson. Alas I felt even another sensation and was enjoying it as with the others and checked in on her only to see Johnny encased with a condom. I never felt when she put it on and did not even contemplate that one was on. What a clever technique she had! This makes me wonder whether the preference for BBBJ is more psychological than anything else. One enjoys it more knowing that it is mouth on bare penis rather than the feel of it. Anyway we did different positions before I shot my load. Earlier in the day I sessioned a young hot 20 year old in another casa but could not climax. Paula is on the other side of thirty, go figure.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2368867]Late 60's / early 70's, I believed that if you wanted someone who could really go the distance and would try anything, then you'd pick a fully grown, American white girl. They were down for anything! Now, I'm not so sure;.[/QUOTE]My best sessions ever were with American white girls in the 70's. Included the best blow jobs I've ever had in my life. As a matter of fact, also with black Americans as well.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368869]My best sessions ever were with American white girls in the 70's. Included the best blow jobs I've ever had in my life. As a matter of fact, also with black Americans as well.[/QUOTE]So I guess the 70's were great!

[QUOTE=Combo;2368878]So I guess the 70's were great![/QUOTE]Actually the 60's were better. Lots of free love back then, now were all in the "Pay Pool".

At least some of us old crusty farts on this board. God forbid when we cannot achieve an erection. If a guy can still get multiple erections in a day and pop at least twice a day in their sixties, I think they are doing well.

The flea market you mention is more of an art fair. It and the Sunday orchestral performance normally take place in Parque Bolivar, which is now under renovations. So not to worry, we will have our playground back all to ourselves within a couple of months.

Nice girl by the way.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2368612]Trip Report.

September 8th 2019.

I was sitting in parque Botero early as I usually do, checking out the lineup and learning new things about Centro. On the first Saturday of the month, they hold something like a flea market at Parque Botero. So I really did not like Saturday that much as the park is overcrowded. On Sunday, as I was saying, I was at Parque Botero early and I was watching the lineup and after speaking to a few regulars a new Vennies shows up and she's impaired and crying and cursing and looking over at me. I quickly moved and walked around Vera Cruz and returned. Once I realized that today would be kind of slow, I decided early that I would return to my room.

Here's a really good tip, no matter how much you like a girl out here when you are mongering, remember you are a monger and you are paying for services. After looking over my choices, I decided that I would wait until my favorite New Vennie showed up and I would ask her best friend for a date. So around 3 pm I began writing her and sure enough she tried me with, you dated my friend, and I replied, if you don't want the date, then I will look for someone else. She replied, no, I will be there as I need the date. So around 4:30 pm the best friend and I finally linked up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luminous;2368558]I am planning the next trip to Medellin and would like to combine cycling / hiking activities with mongering. I know there are one days bike rides / trekking trips I can sign up for but wanted to find out any recommendations for multi-day bike rides / trekking program. I am an new cyclist but would love the ride the hills of Medellin, especially the one that takes you to the airport. I am planning a 4-5 day trip.Thanks![/QUOTE]I am not a cycle guy but a surfer, what I can tell you though is you will be at an elevation of about a mile going up to the airport and there are some windy long sections to climb. Also, you should try to schedule a bike ride on Sunday morning as they shut down for Ciclovia on this day. As far as trekking trips, well to me that means prowling the streets of EL Centro. However for hiking, Arvi Park at the top of the Metro-Cable has a lot of hiking trails in and around the area. I am sure you can find what your looking for on the Internet, but I haven't seen a post recently covering the topics your looking for. Maybe someone else has.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2368511]5 minutes.[/QUOTE]So that's how long it takes you to come.

[QUOTE=Combo;2368878]So I guess the 70's were great![/QUOTE]I guess I have to order myself a time machine.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368869]My best sessions ever were with American white girls in the 70's. Included the best blow jobs I've ever had in my life. As a matter of fact, also with black Americans as well.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that your sessions in the 70's were really your best sessions ever. Most likely it's your memory playing games with you. But I could be wrong. I remember only that in the 70's I could fuck almost everybody and bust 5-6 nuts per day -YMMV.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2368867]Late 60's / early 70's, I believed that if you wanted someone who could really go the distance and would try anything, then you'd pick a fully grown, American white girl. They were down for anything! Now, I'm not so sure;.[/QUOTE]You can thank a rising porno industry for that. Now that that type of shit has become mainstream and everyone is innocuous to it, mfs are REALLY down for anything. Back then it was considered going against the grain to show that I do what I want. These days it is just standard operating procedure.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2368067]You have to be kidding. 30 K is less than $10, and you want a hotel room included?[/QUOTE]In south Santa Fe, all girls quote 26 k room included.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2368499]I just came back today from Medellin. My flight was at 2:10 AM. I took the LAST 10 PM bus from El Centro - 100 feet from the entrance to Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel. The cost is 10.000 COP. The trip took 55 min. There were 2 more passengers in the bus. Nice and comfortable.[/QUOTE]A bit of info. The airport buses do not use the tunnel. There is much less traffic on the old route now. I traveled from San Diego to the airport last week at about 1:30 pm. Trip time was about 45 minutes. One problem was I had to wait 25 minutes at San Diego for the bus.

Prior to HIV things were wide open. Once HIV hit there was a definite change. When no one was affected in the heterosexual areas (for the most part except for drug users really). It was a apparent that a lot of the panic was really unnecessary.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2368885]Actually the 60's were better. Lots of free love back then, now were all in the "Pay Pool"...........[/QUOTE]The 60's? Damn I thought I was old. I remember in '68 a beautiful blonde vixen in a tiny mini skirt winked at me while I was walking with my parents, brothers and sisters. I couldn't wait to get home to wank.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2368999]You can thank a rising porno industry for that...[/QUOTE]I will disagree. This was before modern porn (which has ruined it). It was great because we felt we were inventing it. We were explorers going to uncharted lands.

Any hotels or apartments for rent that are smoker friendly in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Luminous;2368558]I am planning the next trip to Medellin and would like to combine cycling / hiking activities with mongering. I know there are one days bike rides / trekking trips I can sign up for but wanted to find out any recommendations for multi-day bike rides / trekking program. I am an new cyclist but would love the ride the hills of Medellin, especially the one that takes you to the airport. I am planning a 4-5 day trip.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Check out Air B & B for biking experiences and hiking trips did one last month and it was exceptional!

Just had a quick question, buddy of mines client said something really stupid and I just wanted to confirm with the experts on here. We're staying at Hotel Nutibara next month and this clown basically said if you stay at a hotel in Medellin the girls will not come because they stay away from hotels. Now I've been to DR and Costa Rica and the women there came by the bus loads to the hotels. Just want to know should I take heed to what he said or is does this moron have his head up his ass.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2369259]Just had a quick question, buddy of mines client said something really stupid and I just wanted to confirm with the experts on here. We're staying at Hotel Nutibara next month and this clown basically said if you stay at a hotel in Medellin the girls will not come because they stay away from hotels. Now I've been to DR and Costa Rica and the women there came by the bus loads to the hotels. Just want to know should I take heed to what he said or is does this moron have his head up his ass.[/QUOTE]Otherwise you'll pay a big fee for bringing girls back. I never stay at Nutibarra. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2369259]We're staying at Hotel Nutibara next month and this clown basically said if you stay at a hotel in Medellin the girls will not come because they stay away from hotels.[/QUOTE]You are being really vague in your posts. What girls?

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2369259]Just had a quick question, buddy of mines client said something really stupid and I just wanted to confirm with the experts on here. We're staying at Hotel Nutibara next month and this clown basically said if you stay at a hotel in Medellin the girls will not come because they stay away from hotels. Now I've been to DR and Costa Rica and the women there came by the bus loads to the hotels. Just want to know should I take heed to what he said or is does this moron have his head up his ass.[/QUOTE]Yes. All hotels in Medellin only allow men to enter. It's like a sausage fest every single night. If your hotel has a sauna, it's best to avoid it.

Have you considered taking a few minutes to read the forum? You can find the answer quite easily.

There are probably women who won't come to Hotel Nutibara.

I think the point here is more about which hotel. The Nutibara is known to restrict girl entry. After 6 pm they have to be registered to enter, call it semi-girl friendly.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2369404]You are being really vague in your posts. What girls?[/QUOTE]

Trip Report for September 10,2019.

The girls were out in masses in Parque Botero yesterday between 11 am and 1 pm and then again between 4 pm and 5:30 pm. The more time I spend in Centro, I look back over my life and realize how poverty sets individuals up for violence, impatience, and desperation. With that being said, many of the Venezuelans are violent, impatient, and in desperation. Centro is becoming Santa Fe all over again. I sit in the park from 5:30 am to 8 pm sometimes and I watch girls come and go, and rarely do I see any of them with consistent dates. Many of the Venezuelans are gathering for socialization and to communicate with one another, many become angry if one Venezuelan is receiving lots of dates and the others are not. I really would suggest that you take time to sit down and just observe the girl that you may think of taking, unless you can wham bam thank you mam in like 10 minutes and some mongers can, that's just my observation.

Desperation and lack of food and necessities will make an individual become irritable and impatient. Nounce and I have seen this first hand, with the number of fights, the amount of yelling, the amount of infants and children in the park, it just reminds me of how life was in the south in the late 70's after arriving from Puerto Rico to the US. Many of the darker complexion Venezuelans wears their emotions on their face and they rarely smile. These are the ones I avoid. No matter what job you have, smile, be pleasant and at least make the customer think that he is needed. Clearly the customer is needed, if not, you wouldn't be fighting the other Venezuelans who continue to receive dates when you do not. I've witnessed this behavior my entire life, while living in poor environments.

Then you have the 18 to 20 year old Venezuelans that gather together and cackle like hens or pigeons and this behavior just drive me nuts. No matter how pretty they are and how smooth their skin is, that behavior is an instant turn off. I always wondered did these young girls target older men and yesterday, I was able to witness it firsthand. A group of the young Venezuelans were gathered in the park and an old guy walked through the area and the young girls began to whistle and cackle up so much noise that the tourist police came to the area to see what the issue was, so yes, these young girls really target older guys because they are easy to ejaculate and they don't take much time in the bedroom.

Every day I find new girls to hang with and these girls get prettier and prettier. Just like Mr Enternational has said on this forum. Wait until you arrive to talk girls up. I will not be giving out anyone's phone number to any mongers until you are in Medellin. Many mongers will call or write the girl 2 to 3 months before they arrive, these girls are looking for dates today and need to have dates now, not 2 to 3 months from now, just wait until you arrive and then contact me and I will provide you with the number of a girl you may have seen me post a pic. These girls come and go, so if you don't have boots on the ground chance is you may not ever get an opportunity to see them unless you actually come to Medellin. There were so many girls in the Park yesterday that I was amazing, all shapes and all sizes, you have to be here in order to pic the one that you may like. I can only give you a bird's eye view of the ones that I have selected, with that being said, stay tuned, I plan on really seeing many girls as my trip comes to its halfway point, its time for me to really begin to see what these girls in Parque Botero are up to. Pollo Negro is out!

Is El Centro the only place with SWs, has anyone ever encountered prepagos in Laureles, Lleras Park, or El Poblado, ?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2368612]Trip Report.

September 8th 2019.

I was sitting in parque Botero early as I usually do, checking out the lineup and learning new things about Centro. On the first Saturday of the month, they hold something like a flea market at Parque Botero. So I really did not like Saturday that much as the park is overcrowded. On Sunday, as I was saying, I was at Parque Botero early and I was watching the lineup and after speaking to a few regulars a new Vennies shows up and she's impaired and crying and cursing and looking over at me. I quickly moved and walked around Vera Cruz and returned. Once I realized that today would be kind of slow, I decided early that I would return to my room.

Here's a really good tip, no matter how much you like a girl out here when you are mongering, remember you are a monger and you are paying for services. After looking over my choices, I decided that I would wait until my favorite New Vennie showed up and I would ask her best friend for a date. So around 3 pm I began writing her and sure enough she tried me with, you dated my friend, and I replied, if you don't want the date, then I will look for someone else. She replied, no, I will be there as I need the date. So around 4:30 pm the best friend and I finally linked up.

For many of my monger friends that I met in person, many of them have wanted skinny, white, young girls. I am here to tell you, that this is one of the smoothest young girls I have ever laid eyes on. I am usually a nice curvy, big booty type of guy, but this girl was something different in a very good way. She is all of 5 foot tall and weighs about 88 lbs with the most beautiful set of Tatas. After a quick rump with her, I decided that I would keep her for a couple of hours and I also told her that I want to see her every day that I am here until I leave. I will also fit her best friend in daily as well. If anything new comes along, I will make arrangements to fit the newbies in as well. This has been an amazing trip thus far and I am enjoying every minute of it. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Nice one! (The chica in the pics).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368868]So this afternoon I chose big butt Paula from Chicas punto com. I saw her on previous visits but chose others. I've always wanted to do her and did so today. We entered the room, undressed and hit the cama. She immediately accosted my johnson with BBBJ. I laid back and enjoyed the sensations. She varied her technique which I liked a lot. When I felt a different sensation I looked at her to check on what she was doing, invariably she was focussing on a different part of Mr. Johnson. Alas I felt even another sensation and was enjoying it as with the others and checked in on her only to see Johnny encased with a condom. I never felt when she put it on and did not even contemplate that one was on. What a clever technique she had! This makes me wonder whether the preference for BBBJ is more psychological than anything else. One enjoys it more knowing that it is mouth on bare penis rather than the feel of it. Anyway we did different positions before I shot my load. Earlier in the day I sessioned a young hot 20 year old in another casa but could not climax. Paula is on the other side of thirty, go figure.[/QUOTE]It is a sad reality that women hit their sexuall peak around their early thirties and have of course gained knowledge along the way also, but women are most attractive to me in their early twenties, and most of the women I have encountered in this hobby are tired looking by the time they hit thirty. Maybe need these women to work in teams of two, one younger hottie and one about thirty to work the magic?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2366844]
Now comes the scary part (for some people). Alongside the church is a walking street. Head west alongside the church. Stay to the middle or the left. The trannies usually lineup against the side of the church. At the corner you'll see several working girls. To the left (south) is a casino. Just past the casino there may be some girls sitting in a stairway. You won't find much else in that direction.
[/QUOTE]Was in the area, so I took a picture.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2369442]Is El Centro the only place with SWs, has anyone ever encountered prepagos in Laureles, Lleras Park, or El Poblado, ?[/QUOTE]:confused: You can't be serious....
Parque LLeras at night is literally infested by prepagos. They are not dressed as the SW in the Centro, they charge up to 10 or 20 times more than them, but they can be definitely named "SW".

Other two areas are totally clean.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2369259] if you stay at a hotel in Medellin the girls will not come because they stay away from hotels.[/QUOTE]Actually, exactly the opposite holds: girls would be happy to go to your hotel, but all decent hotels keep casual guest girls well away (this is true from some category upwards; I am not sure on what side of the threshold Nutibara is located).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2369477]Was in the area, so I took a picture.[/QUOTE]See? Absolutely terrifying! Looks to be about 8-9 am.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2369442]Is El Centro the only place with SWs, has anyone ever encountered prepagos in Laureles, Lleras Park, or El Poblado, ?[/QUOTE]Parque Lleras is a small part of El Poblado. There are SWs in the area around and in Parque Lleras at night. Mostly you won't spot them until after 9 pm, and they peak after midnight. The average might be slightly better than in El Centro, but that's mainly because there are more at the bottom of the scale in El Centro. Expect to pay at least 150-200 k and you'll need to barter to get that rate.

You might spot a few off duty working girls in Laureles, but they won't be obvious. They won't be working, but you might convince one. Mostly they are there to party.

Hello fellow mongers,

A little help if you may. This is my 3rd Trip to Medellin in 3 years and I will also be going on to Cartagena on the 2nd leg of this trip, it will be my second time there.

I have my driver / fixer who knows all the casa's. I plan to hit Fase 2 and Isla (where is saw a 9 on first trip) and Loutron where I had one of the best experiences ever with a English speaking blonde natural beauty.

This time around I will be in Park Lleras for the weekend and then a few days in Laureles. For Park Lleras my air bnb is selfentry so takes away the walk of shame (adds a potential risk) but I like the freedom to come and go as you please. Laureles I will be in a popular block with many other mongers and have a reception and security.

My plan is to meet up with the Facebook girls which I have put together from previous posts and links (thank you gents). I will hit the strip clubs in the evening, Fase, Isla, Luna and if I have anything left in the tank I will get some in calls from Photoprepagos.

I will also hope to hit the gym in the day / evenings along with some light tours, guatape and some visits to the casino. (hangovers depending).

In Laureles I will probably be more selective on in-calls and might repeat some of the FB chicks if we click etc. But I know some casa's around there and I also plan to have a trip or 2 down to El Centro, previous reports have really been useful on where to start and how to operate (thanks again guys).

I do have a couple of questions that I would like help with before next weekend on my arrival if you may.

1. Google map address for Energy.

2. Address for New Life.

My google maps is giving me strange location and unsure if its correct.

3 Has anyone been to conejitas lately? And is that the correct name? On google maps it is shown as Playmates bar show – it is on the corner of Calle 53 right?

4 Does anyone recommend a sports physio or hospital to administer a hyaluronic acid injection or cortisone to the knee? (Random request but local prices here are huge). I miss Thailand!

Thanks in advance for any help on the above 4 questions. Trip reports to follow on both Medellin and Cartagena.

If you have any other recommendations or locations for me to try please put it down and I will try squeeze it in.

Russki.

Hello friends,

I am a rookie in travel but I have been following this forum for a couple of years, now I am in Medellin, talk to this Facebook girl, ask me 200 COP, who has been with this girl and how about the service? Thank.

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000650317500&ref=content_filter[/URL]

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004481534113[/URL]

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001481924314&ref=content_filter[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2369483]:confused: You can't be serious....
Parque LLeras at night is literally infested by prepagos. They are not dressed as the SW in the Centro, they charge up to 10 or 20 times more than them, but they can be definitely named "SW".

Other two areas are totally clean.[/QUOTE]Are you saying these SWs want 300 - 600 k? Just how hot are they? They get business at these prices?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2369477]Was in the area, so I took a picture.[/QUOTE]Nice. Take more pics.

[QUOTE=Russki;2369540]Hello fellow mongers,

A little help if you may. This is my 3rd Trip to Medellin in 3 years and I will also be going on to Cartagena on the 2nd leg of this trip, it will be my second time there.

I have my driver / fixer who knows all the casa's. I plan to hit Fase 2 and Isla (where is saw a 9 on first trip) and Loutron where I had one of the best experiences ever with a English speaking blonde natural beauty.

This time around I will be in Park Lleras for the weekend and then a few days in Laureles. For Park Lleras my air bnb is selfentry so takes away the walk of shame (adds a potential risk) but I like the freedom to come and go as you please. Laureles I will be in a popular block with many other mongers and have a reception and security.

My plan is to meet up with the Facebook girls which I have put together from previous posts and links (thank you gents). I will hit the strip clubs in the evening, Fase, Isla, Luna and if I have anything left in the tank I will get some in calls from Photoprepagos.

I will also hope to hit the gym in the day / evenings along with some light tours, guatape and some visits to the casino. (hangovers depending).

In Laureles I will probably be more selective on in-calls and might repeat some of the FB chicks if we click etc. But I know some casa's around there and I also plan to have a trip or 2 down to El Centro, previous reports have really been useful on where to start and how to operate (thanks again guys).

I do have a couple of questions that I would like help with before next weekend on my arrival if you may.

1. Google map address for Energy.

2. Address for New Life.

My google maps is giving me strange location and unsure if its correct.

3 Has anyone been to conejitas lately? And is that the correct name? On google maps it is shown as Playmates bar show it is on the corner of Calle 53 right?

4 Does anyone recommend a sports physio or hospital to administer a hyaluronic acid injection or cortisone to the knee? (Random request but local prices here are huge). I miss Thailand!

Thanks in advance for any help on the above 4 questions. Trip reports to follow on both Medellin and Cartagena.

If you have any other recommendations or locations for me to try please put it down and I will try squeeze it in.

Russki.[/QUOTE]If we're both talking about the same place, this is what I found in my research. On their website there is a link to the Google Maps.

[URL]https://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/ubicacion-sala-energy.html[/URL]