Chiang Mai

[QUOTE=Alexander]2. Moonlight gogo.
Follow Loy Kroh rd from CEC all the way to the moat. Turn right.

4. Tapae gate (SW)
Easy enough to find the gate. Been there at different times of the night. Definitely no scene.

5.Sayuri massage
I was totally ignored by the attendants. ALL other customers were Thai and one Japanese looking. I got the feeling that I being farang, wasn't welcomed.

6. SANTIITAN area:
Contrary of what some claim, it's about as close to Novotel as Mecca to Jerusalem. The largest landmark hotel nearby is the Chiang Mai Orchid. Exact address is : Soi 11/Nimmanhemin Road.


To conclude the argument about who wins between Pattaya or CM. Pattaya takes all for one very simple but important reason: The welcome absence of 'white trash'.

[/QUOTE]Interesting outlook on CM.

First of all where do you get the idea that CM has white-trash? I mean, yes, some for sure, but one millionth of the number of white-trash in Pattaya. Pattaya is about 90% white trash, CM, perhaps 5%.

2- Actually called Spotlight, not great, but get there early for something nice.

4- Definitely a scene, how could you miss it? Not a pleasant scene, but definitely plenty of SW.

5- That's odd, the staff are usually very friendly to Farang, perhaps you were wearing your Chang tee with the armpit sweat stains.

6- Santiitam is less than three minutes walk from Novotel. The place you are talking about is a different area althogether. Orchid isn't even close, the nearest landmark hotel is the Amari.

[QUOTE=Alexander]Pattaya vs. CMAI?

To conclude the argument about who wins between Pattaya or CM. Pattaya takes all for one very simple but important reason: The welcome absence of 'white trash'.
[/QUOTE]From the sound of your post, Pattaya is the perfect place for slobs like you. Never coming back to CM? Good riddance.

Thank you, Alexander. Especially for clearer directions to SANTIITAN which I didn't get to try my last trip to CM.

[QUOTE=Alexander]Chiang Mai - some action but not so good...

Wasteland, wasteland, wasteland. This town is really pathetic. My notes about the "entertainment venues":

1.CEC (beer bar area, star six)
It's really easy to find. Once you find the "night bazar", you are there. The bazar is the size of Patpong right in town and you can't miss it. Loy Krok Rd with CEC and more bars starts right in the middle of it. Unless you are masohistic or drunk though there is hardly nothing shaggeable.

2.Moonlight gogo. Follow Loy Krok rd from CEC all the way to the moat. Turn right. Some more beer bars and the lone Moonlight gogo. The lineup is not bad at all. 3 or 4 very good looking animals up on stage. No one is really bad or old. This gogo would do well even in Bangkok. Attitudes are not all rosy though. Very few smiles and very little offered in terms of service.

Again the "Samui-Syndrome". These Thai prostitutes are mixing far too much with western females and are thrashed by their BS just as it happens in Koh Samui. I dunno how much they charge for a fuck. But I am sure that "too much" for what they provide. Really, if you look around, you can fuck better looking cunts for much less in other towns.

3.Phuck-me Hotel (Phucome)
Nothwest of town, about 2km. Any Songthaew on Huay Kaew rd. possibly could even walk in an hour. Likely if you take tuktuk the price of service escalates. Never actually been there.

4. Tapae gate (SW???)
Easy enough to find the gate. Been there at different times of the night. Definitely no scene. Nobody inside the gate (in fact it's very brightly lighted possibly to discourage this). Outside the gate saw only two ugly looking cunts in the semi-dark. When got nearer saw that one had no front teeth. E-nuff said.

5.Sayuri massage
You can also walk from town. The east side of Nawarat bridge (Charoen Muang Rd going east). I took the tuktuk. I told him to leave but obviously he hang around in hope of his cut.

Have to admit the the lineup is very impressive. These girls are BEAUTIFUL! Way beyond any of the Pattaya MPs. Rather like the standard of the Thai MPs at Rachada in Bkk. 3 or 4 cunts were so amazingly perfect that my jaw dropped. No wonder as one of those finished a fuck immediately got snapped up within 2 minutes by a new (thai) guy.

I was totally ignored by the attendants. ALL other customers were Thai and one Japanese looking. I got the feeling that I being farnang, wasn't welcomed. Got a quote for B2000/1.5 hours + tip (or till I pop it once only, whichever comes first). Also was told that all the cunts do falang but I wasn't sure of that from the looks I received (or the lack of it).

It is basically a thai (or asian) scene and they normally resent falangs. It's simply not good for their business to have falangs there, as I was told before often at Rachada and some areas of Patpong. Still, if I had B2000 I would have given it a go with one of those models, even taking the risk of a rotten time.

Alternatives for getting to Sayuri MP from town:
From Wararat Market by the river take a yellow or green songthaew to "Arcade" (say:"uurhk-head"). After you cross the Nakhon Ping bridge, the third traffic lights (I think) is Bumrungrat Road. Sayuri's address is: 3/Soi2 Thanon Bumrungrat. It's about 5 mins walk from the corner. They are open 12 noon to midnight. Songthaews don't run after dark. Really you could be there on foot in 30 minutes from town but then you better use the Nawarat Bridge, and maybe not a good idea to walk at night. Its a bit deserted area. In Bkk tuktuks get B5-600 commission from MPs if they bring you in. Possibly you can count on that here too.

6. SANTIITAN area:
Contrary of what some claim, it's about as close to Novotel as Mecca to Jerusalem. The largest landmark hotel nearby is the Chiang Mai Orchid. Exact address is : Soi 11/Nimmanhemin Road, northwest of town, off Huay Kaew Road.

Actually the brothels are on sub-sois of Soi11. They are quite jovial places really with much music, singing, dancing, karaoke and the occasional live band. Again the clientele is mixed thai, korean and chinese. (Quite a bit of Korean business in the area). A falang on your own you will likely to be ignored especially if you don't speak thai. The cunts were downright ugly in my opinion (nowhere near the quality of the MP). I was told they fuck for B 3-4-500.

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Fucked one........

One fuck at CEC beer-bars (at the FED-EX sign):

If there were 3 good lookers among all the bar cunts then I am telling too much. One immediately walked away when I entered the bar. The other wasn't very keen either. Finally, I fucked one of those, the last one. But at what cost! I had to lick her ass and prostitute myself and sweet-talk it so that she may kindly let me fuck her for B1000+BF300+drinks200. Total damageB1500! About same as in Phuket. (Price of three good roots in Pattaya!)

I vomited afterwards and rinsed my mouth for half an hour from all the BS that went through it. Shit I hate doing this. The fuck itself wasn't terrible though.

Pros: -non agressive, reasonably good looking, young(20), no kids, happy, cheerful, talkative, not shy of showing some poossy in bright lights.

Cons:-no BJ or kissing, the cost!B1500, also not overly enthusiastic (maybe expected more courting? Me no court, no, no.).

I hired it for ST, just wanking into the cunthole, mouth, etc. A fuck is a wank, a wank is a fuck, isn't it? All the same. (Actually, doing it by hand feels better.) I got my one point anyway.

To make sure the business process was complete, asked for a receipt afterwards. No one asked her for a receipt for a fuck before. "Received the sum of 1000 baht for a fuck of 30 minutes...., signed...").

Got this idea from pattayathumbs.com. (It is an excellent site, worth a visit, by the way).

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Pattaya vs. CMAI?

To conclude the argument about who wins between Pattaya or CM. Pattaya takes all for one very simple but important reason: The welcome absence of 'white trash'.

If you stick to the well proven soi2-soi6-soi8 circle you would hardly never have come across them 'white liberated crap', prostitutes from England and Holland, etc. Their all over presence in CM is all just too irritating and overwhelming. No doubt, interacting with them and copying their behaviour reflects on the bargirls too, and not in a positive way.

Yet, while one feels uncomfortable after 2 days in Khorat, it is so un-falang, it is quite possible to spend a week in Cmai, but in Pattaya it's weeks-and weeks- and months.

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Getting around in CMai:

If you arrive in CM by bus or train, don't believe what the touts say. Don't believe what anyone says for that matter! It's another tourist trap. You don't have to take the taxis! Walk outside on any main road, follow the locals as they get off the bus. Yellow or green songthaews will take you to town for B10. Say:"Talat" (market) or "Klang Meuang" (town centre).[/QUOTE]

[quote=deal seeker]thank you, alexander. especially for clearer directions to santiitan which i didn't get to try my last trip to cm.[/quote]those weren't directions to santitam. santitam is close to novotel and simon cabaret.

those directions were to some of the brothels located off nimmaheimin, but there are plenty of other brothels rep001tered all over town.

Finally checked out Sayuri and wondered why I waited so long. By some trick of the light or refraction of the glass, the girls are actually more beautiful close-up than in the fishbowl. Visited 3 times in a week, sampling a different girl each time. One was a real pro from Chiang Rai with fake tits (#56). Great body, too into herself to be a great lay, would not ride on top but I still had fun. One was quite thin, claimed to never have been with a farang before and the action seemed to confirm: much moaning of "jep, jep!" and the hand block to prevent to-the-hilt penetration, and tight/shallow as can be (#129). The best was a 24 yo from Udon who was sweet as hell and had the nicest ass and prettiest pussy I have had the pleasure of tapping though it was hard to tell from the line-up, also limited farang experience (#I can't remember).

Contrary to prior poster, I was quoted 900baht for hour+ (after I had already made my selection) and the papasan was quite welcoming. There was no pressure to choose, but he did make some suggestions. The wash was quite nice, and also got a decent masssage from 2 of the girls. What may be different is that I am conversational in Thai and act suparp (polite) when not in the saddle. Amazing how much further that will get you in Thailand, in almost any situation.

I have a question about these girls for everyone: How to approach and price or for free etc.

IMHO, CEC is not nearly as bad as Alexander described it. I hooked up with a very nice cutie student there with whom I repeated.

Probably the most attractive selections were at Spotlight, which was also a very convenient short walk from the place I was staying, the Raming Lodge.

Radwarrior,

How about some of that old fashioned art named courting?
A smile, a gentle helping hand, a rose...:)

[QUOTE=Radwarrior]I have a question about these girls for everyone: How to approach and price or for free etc.[/QUOTE]

Not everyone in Thailand is a prostitute.

I have to disagree with Alexander's assessment - my experience was quite different. Almost every beer bar has hostess girls that you can barfine (400 baht or so) and take out for LT (1000 baht). I was in CM in July and had a lot of fun - although I spennt most of the time with one girl (see pics in the gallery).

Cheers.

Radwarrior-

You should use the same approach as anywhere else in the world; smile and chat. 99% of these girls are not looking for sex though (not with a sex-tourist anyway), so step lightly. If they're a hooker then chances are they'll drag you into the nearest store with some shopping requests. Plus, bar-girls can be spotted a mile off- darker skin, tattoos, gold, last year's fashions, and very loud mouths.

Crypton, 2041-

Yeah, CM is a great town for girls, someone like Alexander probably has trouble picking up girls wherever he goes. He probably even gets turned down in Pattaya!

Hello,

I've been living in Chiang Mai for the past 2.5 months and have spent several months in Bangkok as well. I am in my mid-thirties and am half Chinese and Japanese and speak conversational Thai. I've gotten a wealth of information from these boards and would like to start contributing and exchanging information as well.

The other day, I went to Pandora for the first time. I remember reading that the going rate at was 900baht at Sayuri. When I entered there was only 2 girls behind the glass. The guy wanted 2K?? I then mentioned that Sayuri was only 900baht (just going off of what I have read). He then brought his price down to 1400 baht. Given that there were only 2 girls sitting, and it was dead -- I thought I would see how low he would go. He didn't go any lower, so I thought if I resigned and began to walk out, he might match the 900baht price. He didn't.

Is this 1400baht price normal and Pandora? Is the 900baht price at Sayuri only for locals -- or for farangs as well? Foolishly, my first time to Chiang Mai, I took a tuk-tuk to Sayuri and paid 2.5K!!

So I thought I would try OT Massage for the first time. I paid 300baht for 1 hour oil massage. I tried to chose the youngest and cutest girl there (probably about a 7). I was tired and really wanted a relaxing massage, but wanted to get off as well. From up close, I noticed the girl had a great body, great breasts. She had me take off my clothes (completely), and then she proceeded to give me an amazing oil rubdown from the front (chest, legs, etc.). Needless to say, I was pretty hard and standing at attention. I really wanted to fuck the girl, and politely asked if this was possible. She said no, only hand-job. I smiled and tried to pursuade her (flirtaciously - spelling?), but she held her ground. I (er my rather erect buddy) even offered her 500bhat then 1K baht, but she refused saying that she was a good girl, and that I needed to go to Pandora or Sayuri. I must say, the "good girl" thing really made me want her more. She said that she would only sleep with me if we were girlfriend/boyfriend and asked if I was up for it. I declined and then she said for a 500baht tip, she would give me a hand job. Wow, 500baht? She wouldn't move from her price. I guess it was reasonable given that I had just offered as much as 1000baht.

More posts to come. Thanks for reading and any input guys.

[QUOTE=Asian John]So I thought I would try OT Massage for the first time. I paid 300baht for 1 hour oil massage. I tried to chose the youngest and cutest girl there (probably about a 7). [/QUOTE]Hi Asian John, can you remember the number of this girl? I've had success with a few (I'll PM you their numbers). One was a really good fuck and gives a sensual oil massage too. Not only that, she had a great attitude and since I was her last for the day, she offered me a lift back to my hotel as well on her motorbike as well as some of her apples which she bought from the market earlier that day. It was a true GFE all the way.

Regarding Sayuri, when I first went there early in the afternoon, the papasan wanted 2000 baht, I came back later that evening and was quoted 900 baht by a different papasan. This guy was a little shorter in height with glasses and had a darker complexion than the earlier one. May be look for him next time you're there?

One girl I had at Sayuri was so polite, that she wai me before and after fucking her. She was very nice in terms of her persoanlity as well as her looks. Man, her politeness was something really special even when she was applying the soap and the shampoo ... it's the kind of politeness and respect that a student would give towards her teacher. Next time I'm there, I'll be looking for her number again.

[QUOTE=Asian John]I am half Chinese and Japanese.

Flirtaciously - spelling?[/QUOTE]It is spelt "flirtatiously". Good effort though!

Good nationality combo by the way. Which is your main half?

Everyone,

After having been out of the game for a while, I'm starting to explore a little bit again. My current mistress is fine, but I've got the itch to try something new. Not much to report this time, a few hand jobs at a few different massage places, a few good shags at both Ton Payom and Phucome, a little chasing after good girls, and one very pleasant evening at Violin Karaoke (with a girl named Nat).

I do have a question, I guess mostly for Coma Boy. A few posts back, you corrected someone about the location of Santitam versus his directions to the "brothels off Niemenhamenda". Well, you gave me excellent directions to Santitam before, and I have had some good times there, but for the life of me I can't find these fabled brothels off Niemenhamenda. I have lived near there for almost 2 years and nothing. There is only one subsoi off of Soi 11 and I haven't seen anything. Can you landmark it for me? Give me some explicit directions, anything?

Oh, and if anyone here in CM is up for an evening out sometime, let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Thrillseeker