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[quote=econo tech; 1154280]you should be happy that gma abolished death penalty. and these guys were not lynched.

in asian countries, porn / prostitution is serious enough. [/quote]well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me.

[quote=xfactors; 1154350]well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me.[/quote]this is asia, and whoring and porn are not accepted. end of story.

and not legal.

and that's my 2 cents advisor to anybody who try to pick fight with bar girls in asia. they can always turn the table and make you the criminal, and one yell that you called her a working girl is enough to make the local's blood boiling to a raging fury. and after all, as the news says' they were violating the modesty of fellow country girls. regardless it was consensual or not

play safe.

ps: as i said, they got of easy. in my opinion. and in singapore, they would have been caned as well. for under-age sex. [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ab_1172940415[/url]

and, note that they are charged with 'trafficking' try to argue with a judge selling porn is not = trafficking.

[quote=xfactors; 1154350]well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me. [/quote]generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.

I'm planning another trip soon. I've been to sabang in PG and I took a girl with me, but she said sabang because white beach is more bars and she was very jealous. Is white beach good for picking up women? Or should I still take one with me? Also, if it's not a great place to hobby, what's the best beach to go and hobby? I've been to Angeles a couple times, but never Subic. I was thinking there, but I want a nice beach with several normal bars as well as hooker bars.

Any suggestions?

[quote=sammon;1154482]generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.[/quote]those guys hanged out with the wrong people. life sentence if you run an internet porn site but you can be a congressman if you steal millions from the government. i love this country! and oh, btw this country is run by gay and **** catholic priest.

I don't see why porn is so verboten in Asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in Asia. That seems kind of silly to me.[/QUOTE]Interesting to note that Porn in Asia is centuries old and the evidence to prove

It is in plain sight. Elaborate, detailed and anatomically correct graphic depictions.

Of sexual (pornographic) activities can be found on temple walls in several Asian countries.

Well look at it. A police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. The country looks good putting it in the news."Look Hillary!". Busting some locals for the same thing? That would make the country look bad. Better to take the bribes.

[quote=sammon;1154482]generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.[/quote]sorry to disappoint you. no double standards. to look good, a foreigner getting arrested, and being marked as the cause of all misery. wins votes. . .

the police chief, i am sure, is the next election candidate.

and if you guys are still trying to argue that the cops were wrong. get a life. or stay home. home. away and far away from asia.

sort of like the time in india, when i was driving and got rear ended by a local tuk-tuk. lo and behold. all the natives accused me of causing the accident, as i had stopped for a freaking red light.

i had to say sorry and drive off. rather than trying to prove who was at fault.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1154631]Sort of like the time in India, when I was driving and got rear ended by a local tuk-tuk. Lo and behold. All the natives accused ME of causing the accident, as I had stopped FOR A FREAKING RED LIGHT.

I had to say sorry and drive off. Rather than trying to prove who was at fault. [/QUOTE]And for sure don't go to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

The law, not some local rumour, but the actual law states in black and white, that in the event of an accident between a Saudi and foreigner the foreigner will ALWAYS be deemed to be at fault. The rationale behind this, is that if the foreigner wasnt in Saudi or Kuwait, then there wouldn't have been an accident so logically, the foreigner must be at fault.

[QUOTE=Kycuriosity; 1154492]I'm planning another trip soon. I've been to sabang in PG and I took a girl with me, but she said sabang because white beach is more bars and she was very jealous. Is white beach good for picking up women? Or should I still take one with me? Also, if it's not a great place to hobby, what's the best beach to go and hobby? I've been to Angeles a couple times, but never Subic. I was thinking there, but I want a nice beach with several normal bars as well as hooker bars.

Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]I'm not an expert, but I don't think you go to White Beach alone. The bar fine bars are in Sabang. I'd probably stay there and find transport to White Beach to enjoy only during the day if you don't have someone with you and I mean of the female gender.

[QUOTE=Jambo;1154558]Well look at it. A police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. The country looks good putting it in the news."Look Hillary!". Busting some locals for the same thing? That would make the country look bad. Better to take the bribes.[/QUOTE]Take a look at how the news is reported in many places in Asia. Bad news will generally feature " foreigners".

Read the newspapers in Malaysia and Indonesia and always crime suspects are "foreigners". Same in Philippines. Theres not many stories about how much aid is given to Philippines by foreign countries, or the foreign volunteers that help NGO's, thats not newsworthy.

Whats news worthy is to heap blame on foreigners as then the morality of the country is not impacted.

But look deeper at these type of webcam operations and the small print will always state theres a Filipina wife / girlfriend or business partner. There always is.

[quote=jambo;1154558]well look at it. a police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. the country looks good putting it in the news."look hillary!". busting some locals for the same thing? that would make the country look bad. better to take the bribes.[/quote]this should serve as a red flag to isg members. if you take pictures of your girl, and get caught with them, maybe that could result in a life sentence. or, if she is not **** they may go easy and give you only a 25-year sentence?

i love the pictures you guys post, but be careful out there!

rg

[quote=radical guy; 1154755]this should serve as a red flag to isg members. if you take pictures of your girl, and get caught with them, maybe that could result in a life sentence. or, if she is not **** they may go easy and give you only a 25-year sentence?

i love the pictures you guys post, but be careful out there!

rg[/quote]theres a supposed interview with the two swedish guys. they also say "how come we were involved in an operation that employed adults serving adults. for which we are convicted. meanwhile theres rampant prostitution in all areas of the country." they raise the double standards / hypocracy question quite rightly.

[quote=freebiefan;1154763]theres a supposed interview with the two swedish guys. they also say "how come we were involved in an operation that employed adults serving adults. for which we are convicted. meanwhile theres rampant prostitution in all areas of the country." they raise the double standards / hypocracy question quite rightly.[/quote]the 2 swedish guys aren't in sweden. they're in pi. it's that simple, isn't it?

in europe hashish is more or less legal, no big deal, but i've never touched it in sea. in germany no speed limit on the highway, in sea we have it. so i accept it whether it makes sense or not. just go by the rules and stay out of these notorious businesses.

should be fine then.

After reading several insightful comments regarding the "Swedish Porn Bust"

One can appreciate what a powerful and probing series of articles we could provide

For the S E Asian press establishment. Discrimination, hypocrisy, racism, corruption, double standards,

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], the list goes on. They would be interested in the truth, right. Uh, right?