Kyiv

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he was almost arrested in some hotel in moscow after guests reported disturbance coming from the room where carr stayed wih his wife, yelling and glass breaking. most probably mother in law settled the things with russians.

now when mentioning domestic violence, beating up his ex-wife things are more clear. old habits die hard, and maybe evgenia is next in line.
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yes and i see he got into a scrape in odesa a few months back as well.

watch this space...

[QUOTE=Qjump]The band are crap! his music is crap, but his lucky point is he does not have to make any money doing that right now for some reason :)
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Good point! I seem to remember his mother-in-law being into Led Zeppelin etc way back through the mists of time in Dnipropetrovsk.

Truly the man is a "lucky general"....

[QUOTE=Qjump]
Beating up his wife helps him fit in just right over here ;) there is no shortage of domestic violence over here either :)
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Yes, I would have thought the claustrophobia of being "cooped up" in the Tymoshenko Family Compound would bring him to boiling point sooner or later...

[QUOTE=Qjump]
No doubt he has some Irish in him somewhere that's not a insult, but say he is Welsh...... an insult to anyone but a Welshman in my book
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Better watch your back after that comment, Qjump!


And, em, speaking of these matters, any word of what Yulia Volodymyrovna gets up to these days?

No secret she took that bed of her's into HQ and sleeps next door to her office but ???

I know for sure we can rely on you to comment authoritively on these matters :)

[QUOTE=Stevie69]I do not know what started the Sean Carr thread, but I might add that in 2006 I met him at RP. The girls were a little more amicable and excited with a "celebrity" in their premises. How is that for bringing the discussion to the main topic? I will add a report of my recent trip soon, I hope.[/QUOTE]

Truly we have come full circle...

Maybe that's what drove the prices "haywire" for the next few years afterwards :)

How is the new economic situation impacting the fare being quoted at RP and elsewhere? I read that the "Stag Parties" to the East from UK have reduced significantly due to crummier exchange rates and the equivalent price of a pint of beer, which then tells me that the number of fish in the pond is less for the gals.......which would tend to say that the prices should be moderating again to reasonable levels.

Is that not the case yet in Kiev and elsewhere?

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Better watch your back after that comment, Qjump!


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No need to watch my back they mostly prefer sheep ;)

And before a clever Welshman comes on (clever and welsh a odd combination anyway) and says we shag them you eat them....... sorry only new zealand lamb for me :)

Before some one jumps in, this is all a joke and leek muncher baiting ;) NOT serious! as today is St Davids day! yaki dah and all that ;)

Ash? got your sms, cant reply over weekends but will get in touch next week, I am still in Donetsk right now, was in Kiev last week for just a few hours and had to return.... pressing business and all that, should be over in the next week or so.

[QUOTE=LifeSavour]Hmmm, I venture to guess it means $$$$ to you! Means more Pussy to you.

Means you are Happy![/QUOTE]

Sort of..... like I said hard to explain without being too obvious....... but yes it puts me in better situations for chasing girls in Kiev and out of the big bad east ))))

[QUOTE=Miguel1404]Dear all,

I have read with much enthusiasm through the postings, but would like to receive an update on how easy it is to arrange a date still being abroad. I am from Amsterdam, flying to Kiev next weekend.

Which website to best use (according to your experience) for private appartment meetings (like in Prague, where I have experience) and do you know reliability of website [url]http://escort-models.kiev.ua?[/url] Girls are very beautiful but still paying 900 UAH per hour.

Any comments appreciated!

Thanks guys![/QUOTE]

Semms that some pic are true some not (and of course no idea wich girls come at your door) some prices are still to high some normal (I look at overnight!)

[url]http://escort-models.kiev.ua/Bozhena-uslugi-prostitutok-Massazh-Eroticheskij-intim-dosug-prostitutki.338.html[/url]

Unfortunately this girl is surely fake... many writes real photo but you do not know here not even that... and these phosto have been used a little bit everywhere in the FSU sites...

Also this is a fake a MET or other agencies model
[url]http://escort-models.kiev.ua/Alyonushka-prostitutki-kievskie-Seks-analnyj-intim-dosug-prostitutki.1099.html[/url]

If you look at more naive pics may be the girls are real...

Like these
[url]http://escort-models.kiev.ua/Marta-I-Sasha-sajty-intim-znakomstv-Okonchanie-na-grud-intim-za-dengi.1257.html[/url]

Just my two cents...

IT

[QUOTE=Ffmbud]How is the new economic situation impacting the fare being quoted at RP and elsewhere? I read that the "Stag Parties" to the East from UK have reduced significantly due to crummier exchange rates and the equivalent price of a pint of beer, which then tells me that the number of fish in the pond is less for the gals.......which would tend to say that the prices should be moderating again to reasonable levels.

Is that not the case yet in Kiev and elsewhere?[/QUOTE]

I'm not in Kiev now so I do not know, but...

on flirt.com.ua (mamba in russia) I've recieved (stange) several offers of girls I know (fucked ona ones I do not know (just chatted) and the prices seems to drop... some told me openly they are in need of money and when I come... some offered a daily sponsor rate of 300 USD so think your conclusions...

IT

[QUOTE=Ffmbud]How is the new economic situation impacting the fare being quoted at RP and elsewhere? I read that the "Stag Parties" to the East from UK have reduced significantly due to crummier exchange rates and the equivalent price of a pint of beer, which then tells me that the number of fish in the pond is less for the gals.......which would tend to say that the prices should be moderating again to reasonable levels.

Is that not the case yet in Kiev and elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Is there a difference in prices? Definitely.

Although the top-end girls are still $200+ (I was refused an offer of $200 by a girl, she was however an absolute amazon stunner) and places like Arena and River Palace are still desperately clinging to their old price model, the “real value” of sex for cash among more common girls has dropped considerably. There is a big market for temporary sponsorship as times are getting more desperate.

Just as an example, here were 3 recent experiences where I paid some money.

Girl from internet, absolute amateur. 400 grivni/2 hours. She would have stayed longer if I wanted her to. Cute, tight body. 19. Gave up her ass.

Date from internet, poor girl. I ended up giving her 100 grivni for taxi because I felt sorry for her. There was no actual cash for sex arrangement, I just fucked her and she whined about her shitty life making 750 grivni a month working at the aptek. 25, about 5kg too much for me… but you know I like them skinny. She was fine, probably 1,70m 58kg. Cute face and equally important, great attitude.

2 bisexual girls I chatted up at a club went home with me for $100. Decent quality girls and an excellent 3-some, including girl-on-girl, double blowjob... just about everything. They stayed until morning, I kicked them out about 6. Thin and fit and very energetic. So much so, they might have been on happy pills.

All 3 situations were spontaneous and “on the outside” of normal p4p circles. The girls weren’t supermodels, but not too shabby either. They were on the same quality level as the RP girls I saw recently. Good bodies, fresh faces, good attitude and spirit. BBBJ/CIM and in one case anal.

All situations were handled entirely in Russian and, between us, more or less fell in my lap. I wasn’t particularly energetic or aggressive on this trip but did recognize opportunity when it presented itself.

Reality is setting in for a lot of these girls. The high-rolling flashy girls are still able to survive off of local boys generosity and coat-tailing local cash-flashers, but the normal type girls are very much open to suggestion if you just speak to them in a sensible way.

Doc, I would like to underline for beginners this fact "All situations were handled entirely in Russian", because Russian goes straight to the girls' heart more than money show.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]All situations were handled entirely in Russian and, between us, more or less fell in my lap. I wasn’t particularly energetic or aggressive on this trip but did recognize opportunity when it presented itself.

Reality is setting in for a lot of these girls. The high-rolling flashy girls are still able to survive off of local boys generosity and coat-tailing local cash-flashers, but the normal type girls are very much open to suggestion if you just speak to them in a sensible way.[/QUOTE]

I beg your help. Please, who knows where is Victoria now?

Who saw her in Kiev or elsewhere?

Who knows any information about her?

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]I beg your help. Please, who knows where is Victoria now?

Who saw her in Kiev or elsewhere?

Who knows any information about her?[/QUOTE]

We know you are addict... as I am but may be search her not in Kiev (on internet) but in whole UA... As far as I rememeber I saw some photos (time ago) in a page classified under Zhytomir (130 km west of Kiev).

IT

I was in Kiev last week, and all I can say to those who have never been there but have been thinking perhaps I should go. GO MAN GO. It’s a great place! Even if the weather is not perfect.

Looking back I think the planning I did before my trip payed off. I shopped around for an apartment and found many companies offering apartments (ranging from USD 50-150 or more). I found a few I liked and wrote to the agents. One of my choices was not available but I got a good offer (? ) on another one: USD 120 per night for 2 rooms and super jacuzzi bathroom, situated on Chervonoarmeiskaya – nice and central but a lot of traffic. The lady at [url]http://www.kievforrent.com/[/url] was very helpful and speaks good English. She also arranged airport-pick-up by a very pleasant English speaking guy for USD 40.

In my planning process I had also made contact with Ash, who is a regular poster here, and currently present in Kiev. More about Ash later.

I had been scouting all sorts of dating agencies on the internet to find ladies in Kiev. The one I found gave the best number of quality leads was good old Adult Friend Finder. I got in touch with a lady living quite far from Kiev who seemed to have an open mind. We started to correspond a little and also had a few talks on the phone. I persuaded her to come to Kiev and stay with me (assuring her of my gentleman-like behaviour). It was agreed that she would come and I pay her travel expenses (total: approx. USD 140 + some taxis). This meant she would pay her train ticket and I would reimburse her when we met. So there I am set up with a nice lady of 33 (I will be 57 this year! ), who speaks quite good English and no real reason to complain about life.

I was 2 hours away from Kiev but the poor lady had a over-night train journey to look forward to. I was scheduled to arrive on the Wednesday and she would wait until I had arrived – and called her from Kiev – before she got on the train. I would have done the same if going 600 km to meet up with some stranger.

At the airport I bought a local SIM-card from the Kyivstar shop in the arrival hall since roaming turns out very expensive. A good move.

And finally there I was in my nice apartment ready to go. I called Ash and we would meet at 8. Since I had got up early I just had a bite to eat and a rest. At 8 I go to the Arena sportsbar and the evening begins. It turns out Ash is a good guy – charming, well mannered, positive outlook, good sense of humour and with a good eye for the ladies. We have a few beers and talk about out common interest – ladies. There are lots of them around – very nice. I am quite used to having nice ladies around but Kiev has more to offer than most places. Being Wednesday night it’s Shooters’ night, although that means it is "ladies only" until midnight. At Arena we also meet prominent forum-posters Doctor Skank and Irish-Lad (Hi guys, nice to have made your aquaintance! ).

At midnight we go to Shooters and it is packed with nice (very young) ladies. After a quick look around Ash starts talking to 2 young things – Lena and Julia – and we invite them for drinks and more private talk in the smoky bar downstairs. I smoke 1-2 cigarrettes a day, but my god I appreciate the non-smoking bars of most western countries! We do a lot of talking and a bit of dancing with the very nice pair of ladies we have met. Also meet Rob from Inverness (owner of Shooters? ) who treats us to his "special " gin and tonic. WOW! The kind of drink that will keep you going ALL evening. Very nice guy, though. Very nice indeed. However, I feel there is not much point in investing too much effort in the ladies because my "date" is on the train to Kiev and will arrive at 8. 30. Moreover, Lena is only 20 which is very young if one is looking for freebies. We end up at 3. 30 having sushi at Shooters and I am sitting close to Lena doing a bit of touching and holding hands. Very nice lady, would not have said no to a piece of her. We share a cab and before splitting up I make sure I get Lena’s number. I go to bed at 4. 30 and can allow myself a few hours sleep before Natali arrives (remember I’m well over 50 and normally need more than a few hours sleep! ). NB. I now have email-contact with Lena and we plan to meet for dinner and some partying when I go back to Kiev – hopefully within a few months. She seems genuinly interested, strangely enough.

Then up at 7. 30 and into the sci-fi shower cabinet with massage mode and what-not. Hot shower turns the bathroom into a sauna. Lovely, I can feel life returning. And then out into the room-temperature. Iiiooooooooowww.cOLD. But my god it wakes you up! And then, breaking one of my rules about drinking, I pour a bit of rum in my tea which helps me back to some sort of "normal" state. Just before 9 I meet Natali outside the apartment and feel a slight disappointment. She reminds me more of the farmer’s daughter than the glamour queen I had envisaged, although photos were pretty accurate. It’s quite clear she lives in the country. But she does have a sweet sort of face and a whatsmore – a promising body.

I offer her tea and we begin to talk. It’s all pretty relaxed. I suggest we celebrate our meeting and have some champagne (the real thing, bought in Stockholm – not local stuff). She says she wants to take a shower first. I can live with that so I don’t argue. She returns in bathrobe and we have a bottle of champagne. Things lighten up a lot and we do a little touching and feeling but never get close to anything serious. She’s nice to talk to, really nice. I suggest she (and I) have a rest due to her long train journey etc and we go to bed – Natali still in bath robe, me in T-shirt and training pants. I decide I am not going to make any advances. Yet.

We wake up a few hours later and are quite close to each other and nice and warm. Accidentily my hand is on her thigh and I start gently moving it. No resistance from miss N. I touch her hand and she holds it gently. Five minutes later she goes through a kind of transition: from being a kind of shy girl to a very eager lady. It turns out she just loves sex. She has a lovely body. Firm where it should be firm, soft where sotness is desired and quite tight where it should be tight. We do almost everything possible over the next few hours. I think the Russian-accented English is so sexy:. I laf yor bigg kokk inn my pussi end I laf to heff my mussllzz strretched prroperrli. Lovely. Just can’t get enough of it.)

She is still a little bit like the farmer’s daughter out of bed but I find her more and more attractive in her sweet innocent way and in bed we don’t really need short skirts, stay-ups and high heels, do we? During the first day together we only leave the apartment to go and get some milk and bread in supermarket round the corner. Dinner we order – in between sex. From a fantastic delivery-service which seems to cover many of Kievs best restaurants. We fall asleep completely shagged out.

More to follow.

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[QUOTE=Qjump] Ash? got your sms, cant reply over weekends but will get in touch next week, I am still in Donetsk right now, was in Kiev last week for just a few hours and had to return.... pressing business and all that, should be over in the next week or so.[/QUOTE]Hi Ash,

Have been able to sample the talent in Donetsk? I've found the girls here extreme knock-outs. Donbass is crazy expensive. If you haven't I recomend azania boutique hotel ([url]www.azaniahotel.com[/url]), best accomodation deal by far in all of ukriane so far in my experience. City center.

Bc

Is she expecting that you ask to marry her?

[QUOTE=Arcanehalls]I was in Kiev last week, and all I can say to those who have never been there but have been thinking perhaps I should go. GO MAN GO. It’s a great place! Even if the weather is not perfect.

More to follow.

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