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Never dipped toe in Madrid but sounds right.

Barcelona is where I found my all time favorite. And, yes, percentage fuckable was higher. I also had one in Tarragona that was amazing. She looked like Alexis Crystal (who I rate 9). Great fuck and high energy but blowjob was bland. For whatever reason, she wouldn't make eye contact (very important for me) and go really fast at it as if the only goal is to cum quick. I would rather take it slow and easy. So, never met her again.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2842481]I've had good success in both London and Madrid. But Madrid totally rules if you like Latinas. Like say you browse a US city like Chicago. You sort thru dozens of fatties and ugly chicks to find one girl you might want to fuck. Now go to Madrid. Like nearly every girl in the list is fuckable! It's amazing. And of course where I found the legendary smoke show. 😜.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

I just came back from a Sugar Dating Tour (20 days) to Spain and it was the most fun I have ever had in my whole life! I am 40, pretended to be single on seeking and did a lot of reach outs on the app for almost 2 months before going there.

I learned a lot from this forum, so would like to contribute back with my experience. I will start with a summary today and then add more details over the next few days. Please ask me anything specific that you are interested to know more about.

Some stats first:

- Total women fucked: 13.

- Nationalities fucked: 10.

- Ages fucked: 20-38.

- 2 professionals (1 in Tokyo's soapland, 1 in FKK Sharks at Frankfurt).

- 12 women from seeking, fucked 11 of them. 4 in Madrid, 7/8 in Barcelona.

- Repeat dates with 3 of them. Went on a trip with 1 of these 3. Spent multiple days together with 1 in Barcelona.

- Had 2 threesomes (first threesome in my life).

- PPM ranged from 250-500 Euros. Food / drinks 100 Euros per date.

- Overall spent 8-9 k USD.

My plan / strategy with all these seeking dates was always the same: I wasn't interested in them coming directly to the hotel room. I told them specifically that I want to go out and explore the city's restaurants / bars (since I am visiting) and go back to my room AFTER some drinking + getting to know each other.

I also had to say No to many other prospective girls who I was chatting with for a while because I just didn't have the time to meet them all.

Some Learnings:

- I am not into professionals. Those were the two worst fucks I had on this whole trip.

- Treat the seeking girls well and they will reciprocate. I was nice and a gentleman with them over chat, then in person and they were a lot of fun in bed.

- Repeats are usually more fun. The girl becomes comfortable with you and opens up more in the repeat encounters.

- Ask for a video chat before meeting. At least 3 of the 12 women I met looked very different than their pics, mostly because they had put on a lot of weight since the pic, or the angle of the pic had hidden the issues. I cancelled one date when the girl refused to come on video chat.

- In Barcelona, many of these girls live 30-40 minutes away from the city. So planning is important and be prepared for some cancelled dates because the girl may decide not to come (or make excuses).

I am not sure when I will get a chance to do something like this again *sigh*. But I am so glad I did it. Best 20 days of my life! And the cities are amazing too.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2842488]Never dipped toe in Madrid but sounds right.

Barcelona is where I found my all time favorite. And, yes, percentage fuckable was higher. I also had one in Tarragona that was amazing. She looked like Alexis Crystal (who I rate 9). Great fuck and high energy but blowjob was bland. For whatever reason, she wouldn't make eye contact (very important for me) and go really fast at it as if the only goal is to cum quick. I would rather take it slow and easy. So, never met her again.[/QUOTE]Madrid is awesome. I haven't been to Barcelona but I have spend a lot of time recently in Madrid. I had an sb / GF there so I wasn't able to set up much time with the local SBs (maybe 1-2 during the course of a week) due to time commitments. So, in turn I used the local escort scene for outcall and it does not disappoint. Even when in the subways or at a local bar, you can see the talent is literally all around you. I prefer European Spanish over latinas, but whatever your preference is, there's more than enough in SA to easily suit the taste of the pickiest monger.

The feeling of familiarity has come upon me with Madrid; my trips started to be exclusive to Madrid and maybe one other city for a day or so, in order to bang my sb / GF. It started to feel like I was wasting my monger / culture trips, so at this point, the goal is more exploration and Barcelona is definitely on the list.

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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2842004]Glad to see you were persistent but I think budget is the issue. Not going to find too many hotties going to take 200 in the western euro countries. Doing good if you get them at 300 IMO. 200 doesn't get you far.[/QUOTE]Yes I know my budget is low and I am fine with it. I had been sleeping with women at hostels so seeking was kind of on the back burner. I have upped my game big IRL the last few years and have been paying for it less and less.

However I plan on visiting Colombia soon and want to find some nice girls, either on seeking, dating apps or IRL.

[QUOTE=Intelligencium;2842652]Hi all,

I just came back from a Sugar Dating Tour (20 days) to Spain and it was the most fun I have ever had in my whole life! I am 40, pretended to be single on seeking and did a lot of reach outs on the app for almost 2 months before going there.

I learned a lot from this forum, so would like to contribute back with my experience. I will start with a summary today and then add more details over the next few days. Please ask me anything specific that you are interested to know more about.

Some stats first:

- Total women fucked: 13.

- Nationalities fucked: 10.

- Ages fucked: 20-38.



Some Learnings:

- I am not into professionals. Those were the two worst fucks I had on this whole trip.

- Treat the seeking girls well and they will reciprocate. I was nice and a gentleman with them over chat, then in person and they were a lot of fun in bed.

- Repeats are usually more fun. The girl becomes comfortable with you and opens up more in the repeat encounters.

- Ask for a video chat before meeting. At least 3 of the 12 women I met looked very different than their pics, mostly because they had put on a lot of weight since the pic, or the angle of the pic had hidden the issues. I cancelled one date when the girl refused to come on video chat.

I am not sure when I will get a chance to do something like this again *sigh*. But I am so glad I did it. Best 20 days of my life! And the cities are amazing too.[/QUOTE]Great report! I keep telling guys this is the way to have the best sex of your life but they scoff at my "knowing" seeking sex is better than typical P4 P sex when everyone who goes that route says it is. They just have the sour grapes because they do not want to put up the $80 to $100 a month fee. But how much does a plane ticket and lodging in Spain cost? What is $100 in comparison?

And if you ever do become single, seeking gets even better. The women will put even more energy into pleasing you.

[QUOTE=Clone8884;2843199]Yes I know my budget is low and I am fine with it. I had been sleeping with women at hostels so seeking was kind of on the back burner. I have upped my game big IRL the last few years and have been paying for it less and less.

However I plan on visiting Colombia soon and want to find some nice girls, either on seeking, dating apps or IRL.[/QUOTE]You will be fine in Colombia. You can fuck hotties for 60-70 $ US. No problem.

[QUOTE=Intelligencium;2842652]Hi all,

I just came back from a Sugar Dating Tour (20 days) to Spain and it was the most fun I have ever had in my whole life! I am 40, pretended to be single on seeking and did a lot of reach outs on the app for almost 2 months before going there.

I learned a lot from this forum, so would like to contribute back with my experience. I will start with a summary today and then add more details over the next few days. Please ask me anything specific that you are interested to know more about.

Some stats first:

- Total women fucked: 13.

- Nationalities fucked: 10.

- Ages fucked: 20-38.

- 2 professionals (1 in Tokyo's soapland, 1 in FKK Sharks at Frankfurt).

- 12 women from seeking, fucked 11 of them. 4 in Madrid, 7/8 in Barcelona.

- Repeat dates with 3 of them. Went on a trip with 1 of these 3. Spent multiple days together with 1 in Barcelona.

- Had 2 threesomes (first threesome in my life).

- PPM ranged from 250-500 Euros. Food / drinks 100 Euros per date.

- Overall spent 8-9 k USD.

My plan / strategy with all these seeking dates was always the same: I wasn't interested in them coming directly to the hotel room. I told them specifically that I want to go out and explore the city's restaurants / bars (since I am visiting) and go back to my room AFTER some drinking + getting to know each other.

I also had to say No to many other prospective girls who I was chatting with for a while because I just didn't have the time to meet them all.

Some Learnings:

- I am not into professionals. Those were the two worst fucks I had on this whole trip.

- Treat the seeking girls well and they will reciprocate. I was nice and a gentleman with them over chat, then in person and they were a lot of fun in bed.

- Repeats are usually more fun. The girl becomes comfortable with you and opens up more in the repeat encounters.

- Ask for a video chat before meeting. At least 3 of the 12 women I met looked very different than their pics, mostly because they had put on a lot of weight since the pic, or the angle of the pic had hidden the issues. I cancelled one date when the girl refused to come on video chat.

- In Barcelona, many of these girls live 30-40 minutes away from the city. So planning is important and be prepared for some cancelled dates because the girl may decide not to come (or make excuses).

I am not sure when I will get a chance to do something like this again *sigh*. But I am so glad I did it. Best 20 days of my life! And the cities are amazing too.[/QUOTE]Any tips for opening messages and how to approach it. Do you directly say let's grab dinner / drinks to get to know each other and then take it further? Intel and tips would be greatly appreciated.

Currently in Madrid and not getting that much success.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2843402]Any tips for opening messages and how to approach it. Do you directly say let's grab dinner / drinks to get to know each other and then take it further? Intel and tips would be greatly appreciated.

Currently in Madrid and not getting that much success.[/QUOTE]Of the 4 I met in Madrid, I was in touch with 2 of them for a while. With them, it was easy and just a matter of finding a good day / time. For the other 2, I found them by messaging the day of meet. I must have messaged 30-40 girls I was there (sort by who is online or most recently online) and while 5-6 replied, these two replied the fastest, were engaged and, so, got my business.

You will get better luck on Fridays and Saturdays since most of these girls work Mon-Fri. My opening lines were nothing special. Just "Hello, nice to meet you. I am in Madrid for a couple of days and would love to meet someone local " or sometimes when I was desperate for a date "Hey, are you interested in meeting tonight"?

Apologies in going there, but have you gotten successful before? I wonder if there's something you may need to add to your profile to make them reply back?

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2843402]Do you directly say let's grab dinner / drinks to get to know each other and then take it further? [/QUOTE]My ideal setup is described in my profile:

1. Chat on SA.

2. Move to telegram / whatsapp.

3. Meet for dinner or drinks and take it from there.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2842334]So, the first girl fell sick and a great built up chemistry went down the drain. But, we are in touch. Next tins I am in Europe, I am pretty sure this one will be on my bed.

The next one is a sports girl. Super fit, super sexy. Since I am into sports, we got along great. Few days before I got into town, I asked her to book a restaurant of her choice and she didn't go too fancy. A normal one with a chic vibe. Indications of a keeper.

I booked a hotel with a spa. We grab dinner, we jibe well. Enough to give me confidence to skip the bar and asked herdirectly if she wanted to get back to my place. She goes "would love to. Can't wait. I am already ready, if you know what I mean" and winked. Game on.

Reached hotel, had a rose and things started heating up. Full on make out.

I suggested we try something naughty aka go to the spa (pretty late in the day). She undressed right in front of me, got into nothing but a towel and says "let's go". I follow suit. We went to shower together and hit the sauna.

Pretty hot and we start sweating. I get turned on by sweaty bodies.

We start playing with each other. I'm fully erect, she is wet. Stroking my dick, she goes "Why don't you fuck me right here? She gets on my lap, kisses me, makes my dick rub her pussy and soon, takes me all the way in. We go at it for who knows how long, with her books in my mouth and ass in my hands.

Then, we switched to her standing against the Sauna door and I enter from behind. Being into sports, she takes it like a champ. I finish on her ass. We wipe and lay there for a while.

Then, returned to room. More rose and this time we both were naked. Seated on the same love seat. She starts playing with junior, then proceeds to give the best BBBJ I have received. Lots of BLS and look into my eyes while working the shaft. Then, she rides me reverse cow girl while I keep sipping wine. Stops, asks me to feed her some wine. Then, goes back to work.

At some point, I lift her up, toss her in bed, and started fucking her like no tomorrow. Pretty hard fuck I must say and finish inside her. She said she loves the warmth of it.

More rose, more fuck, more positions including the work table in the hotel. This time she says she wants to swallow. And asks me to not finish soon. I obliged alerting her when I am close. Diligently gets on knees, looks at my eyes, and starts sucking. I finished in a few minutes, feeling her throat. Swallowed it all like a champ. Showered, drank more and slept.

5 am junior has morning wood. I climbed on her, she wakes up slowly, feels my dick and says "please put it inside. Right now! Session done and we go back to sleep.

Woke up at 9, fucked again. Then, went for a sumptuous breakfast. Came back, took a nap, fucked again at 2 pm. Eventually, dropped her off at her flat at 4 pm. She called me upstairs for a coffee. Introduced me to her friend who is equally hot and dropped a hint of potential threesome.

Fabulous trip. Europe rocks.[/QUOTE]As a one shot guy I am so jealous reading this LOL. Any advice?

[QUOTE=Jbob084;2843402]Any tips for opening messages and how to approach it. Do you directly say let's grab dinner / drinks to get to know each other and then take it further? Intel and tips would be greatly appreciated.

Currently in Madrid and not getting that much success.[/QUOTE]As the other poster says you usually want to start a bit in advance and find a girl who will really engage in some banter. Pros don't have time or patience for this so it kinda weeds them out. About two weeks early is best but I've had success starting 2-3 months before beleive it or not.

But since you are there, my go to line is "I'm going out to a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me. " Has not failed me yet! I've actually been super surprised at the success rate.

I happened across the most amazing post from 2017 about dating a Colombian girl and how it's completely different from western girls. This is an amazing treatise on the subject and lots of good advise in general if you want more "real world" dates. Worth a read by any girl enthusiast. It's about halfway down this page.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas&p=1983593[/URL]#post1983593.

No specific advice. I don't (yet) use any meds. Recently, I asked the seniors about Cialis and looks like there are side effects. Given I am in the US, I would need prescription. Not worth the hassle.

I just follow healthy habits. Quit smoking (was occasional smoker anyway) 10 years ago, eat healthy (no fries, no meat, no high fat food), exercise regularly and intensely (I am a sportsman, anyway), no soda (yes, I have had at most 5 coke cans in last 20 years), minimal alcohol (drinks when with girls).

I guess tht dose the trick but, frankly speaking, I simply thank the stars. Doing above doesn't mean good performance. Just lucky bastard, I guess.

Although, I'm curious about Cialis. Want to try and see what more it does to me. Will try and post someday.

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2843518]As a one shot guy I am so jealous reading this LOL. Any advice?[/QUOTE]

Speaking of side effects of Cialis and others, I am reminded of side effects of SA. In a funny way. Or, is it even funny?

I recently returned after a fabulous SA experience. Wife took me to an event. I spotted a few chicks, checked them out and chuckled "hmm. I would totally fuck this one".

There was this one particular girl, seemingly on a date with another guy, who caught my attention. I couldn't take my eyes off her. Tall, brunette, athletic. Perhaps, 26/28 years. To make matters worse, she was wearing a skirt exposing her long legs. And my brain was running wild.

If only this chick was on SA, I could meet her, let her skirt up and other naught thoughts.

Looks like SA has started to affect my regular life.

Kinda felt bad later that I was not only checking out but also entertaining naughty thoughts with a girl. Who in that day was clearly with someone else. And, my wife was with me.

Not sure what to make out of this. Need to reflect on this and think over.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2843861] side effects of SA[/QUOTE]Funny you said this. I was thinking exactly the same after my recent trip (and during my trip). Whenever I saw a hot girl in Europe and then here back in States, I would wonder if I can find her on SA, what would be her backstory, how I would love to take her on a date and then back to my room.

I wouldn't read too much into it though, nothing to reflect IMO. This is what SA does, it normalizes us having sex with beautiful normal girls.