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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2421476]She may not be bar fineable at all. If she is getting a lot of drinks off customers and works behind the bar then the bar may not allow her to go as she is bringing in a lot of paying customers. Getting good bar staff isn't always easy either. If she has a sponsor, or three, then she probably wouldn't be interested in going with anyone. I knew a girl who worked behind a bar in Soi 7/1 a few years ago who was in this situation. She was getting around THB 60 k a month from three guys who were overseas, she had no reason to go with anyone.[/QUOTE]That wasn't my question. I know what I am asking. I don't know why you even bothered to reply when you know nothing about the girl. When people have preconceived notions about someone, they come up with all sorts of unsubstantiated assumptions to validate their preconceived notions.

The girl is a prostitute. She told me so. Of course, she did not use that exact term. And why are you assuming she works behind the bar? She doesn't. She was jumping from table to table in her very short mini-skirt for more and more lady's drinks telling the whole world that she was available for "takeaway". Is it because of the picture? I did not take the picture. If you look carefully, she is standing in front of what looks like a round table. I don't think the picture was taken at Hillary 4. But I'm not going to assume either way. Where the picture was taken is not even important.

[QUOTE=Jarlenm84;2421383]So what is the best place to find freelancers online ATM? Going to BKK in a week and want to try to find a few beforehand. Got 20 matches on Tinder pretty fast, but none of them were freelancers. They want to be friends or marry me:/ Anywhere else I can try?[/QUOTE]Smoochi is quite good, though most pics are heavily photoshopped. However, you can always send girl back if difference exceeds your acceptance threshold.

[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2420646]No, quite the opposite. I mean more like the top 20% of Chinese girls are hotter than the top 20% of Thai girls, but the Thai girls who are around average are waayyyyy better than Chinese girls around average. Yeah I've also noticed that Thai bros in the soapies seem to love a more Chinese and East Asian ethnic look and dislike more SEA features. They also don't seem to care about curves as much.

Chinese girls, even seasoned WGs, are also complete starfish. I've had maybe 3 Chinese WGs and 1 civilian who had what I'd describe as good oral skills, with a lot flatly refusing to do it at all. A+? LOL, out of the question. Thais are amazing in bed, and I think many a man would prefer a 6/10 who knows how to please over an 8/10 who just lays there passively.

I don't have much experience with Vietnamese, but first impressions were very favorable. I got to get more time with them; there's a couple special bars they go to in Shanghai and of course they congregate at Soi 4 opposite the Hillary Bars near Nana.[/QUOTE]My best mongering encounter ever was with a Chinese Girl in Guangzhou. She used to be my regular until she raised her prices wayy too high for me. This girl always asked me to take pics on her phone with my cum in her mouth, if we did CIM it was already there, if not she'd take it out of the condom in her mouth for photo purpose!!

If you ever meet a Chinese Nympho, you can thank your stars.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2421476]She may not be bar fineable at all. If she is getting a lot of drinks off customers and works behind the bar then the bar may not allow her to go as she is bringing in a lot of paying customers. Getting good bar staff isn't always easy either. If she has a sponsor, or three, then she probably wouldn't be interested in going with anyone. I knew a girl who worked behind a bar in Soi 7/1 a few years ago who was in this situation. She was getting around THB 60 k a month from three guys who were overseas, she had no reason to go with anyone.[/QUOTE]Ummm. Why stop at 3, why not another 20 k a month.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2420506]I agree that the Chinese beauties are on the far end of the bell curve distribution. I am surprised that you find average Chines girls to be beautiful.

There are plenty of Thai girls that are of Chinese ancestry in Bangkok. I have rarely picked them in Soapies (if obviously Chinese), because they tend to be more voluptuous (overweight), or if skinny, very straight bodied non curvy, and not many of the obvious Chinese faces are pretty to me. Yet Thai men seem to go for them more than the normal Thai looks. I never could tell if Chinese girls had bigger tits really or just stuffed / padded bras.

Thailand may have less regional variation in looks than China, but not sure. Some southern Thais don't look Thai at all. I hardly count them all as Thais. Other Southern Thailand girls can look quite similar to Issan girls. Just depends if they have any Malay ancestry or not. Northern Thai beauties is a bit of a myth to me. Some nice ones. Many can have broad faces.

Since I like slim girls, I don't find that many have big tits, but manage a natural Cee-Cup sometimes without going to fat girls. I like exotic girls and black girls too (although too few black girls are very pretty especially in Bangkok). Miss Chile and Miss S Africa attached, and a pic of 3 pretty Japanese girls (I like them all), Indonesian and a Kenyan (quite similar look to my favourite Lao girl but darker). So I can do a wide variety of nationalities but just the average China girl standard is a bit low. I suppose we could say the same for Viets, Thai, Philipinas, Indonesian, Indian, etc. I suppose one can see from the attached pics that my style tends to be far from a typical Chinese look, liking the more exotic and don't need white skin.

Are Japanese girls better than Chinese on average? Which country in Asia has the best looking girls on average? Hard to say, and very dependent on personal taste, especially as I like slim faces. Java, Thai, and Philipina might be my preference based on past experiences with Indian girls last.

Strangely Thailand wins all the beauty competitions for Ladyboys, but not so much for the real girls. Meanwhile the girls like to have surgeries to try to look like LBs, ha ha.[/QUOTE]The three nude gals in the photo are just about perfect. I'd take any one of them over a Thai gal any day. Now that folks is what I would pay good money for. Not a run of the mill Isaan gal.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2421823]The three nude gals in the photo are just about perfect. I'd take any one of them over a Thai gal any day. Now that folks is what I would pay good money for. Not a run of the mill Isaan gal.[/QUOTE]We are agreed for a change. Those 3 Japanese are well above average even for Japanese girls, and I agree that "run of mill" Isaan girls aren't great. My GF has no competition at all for adult girls in the country village, and I rarely see pretty ones on flights from Bangkok to Isaan destinations. The gogo bars actually have some well above average Issan girls in amongst all the average ones.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2421842] Those 3 Japanese are well above average even for Japanese girls, [/QUOTE]I wouldn't say they are well above average. Lived in the Dotonbori area in Osaka and Seoul for 3 months this year and the Dotonbori girls are better than Thai girls and the girls in that photo. I never say this about Asians but there were some solid 9's there for sure. I suspect you haven't been to Japan for a while.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2420905]Has anyone fucked this girl? Her name is Mea (pronounced May). Works at Hillary 4 on Soi 4. I only had a drink with her. She seemed to get a lot of drinks. Probably gets barfined every day.[/QUOTE]I didn't fuck her. But I met her in Hillary 4 last year. She said barfine was 800 Baht. She wanted 5000 baht for longtime. So I left.

Late report. My first time in Thermae Cafe. Time stamp is October 2019. It's raining outside. First day in Bangkok. Went to Thermae Cafe at 9 pm. It's almost empty maybe because of the rain outside.

Girl 1. Anyway, I approach the first girl and say Hi to her. She must only like Asians because she says nothing and gives me a dirty look that says "Who the hell are you to approach me?" I ask her how much short time. She answers reluctantly 3000 baht. I ask her how much longtime. I'm expecting her to say around 5000 Baht. But she says 7000 baht. WTF. I ditch her and move onto the next one. The girl speaks good English.

Girl 2. I say Hi to her. I get a dirty look from her also. From this point on, everything is a blur. I'm also feeling a little dizzy from standing the whole time on the train from BKK airport to the hotel. I do not remember how much she said for short time. She's not smiling the whole time. I watched over two dozen Thermae videos on youtube before and after visiting Bangkok. I actually found this girl 2 in one of the videos. (See picture below) I'm not feeling the love so I decide to ditch her also.

Girl 3. I approach her because this one is smiling at me, to my surprise. She looks older than the rest. But she says she is 26 years old. She's dressed like an office lady. Probably came to Thermae after work. I don't remember exactly but I think she said 2500 baht short time. She is very polite and looks like a person who would never get angry. For some reason, I ditch her also. I think it was her outfit. Long office pants. Not sexy at all. Mistake number 1. I went back to Thermae several times to find her. But I would never see her again. She speaks good English.

Girl 4. This girl is also smiling. But I think it was fake. Very pretty but it's the make up. Her English is terrible. She only understands how much. 2500 baht short time. I ask her what is your name. She says Puddad. Liar. (Her real name turned out to be Sukanya) I ask her blow job OK? She says yes. Liar. She is 21. I ask her you have Thai ID card? I get a blank stare. I should have chosen girl 3. But I choose this girl because she is tall and slim. Looks like an innocent college girl next door. Big mistake. Not to self: Next time choose a girl who looks a little nasty. We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. (See 2 pictures below).

To be continued.

Part 2.

We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.

We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.

After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.

It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2422035]Part 2.

We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.

We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.

After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.

It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of grey area between "disgusted desperate newbie"and "hardcore professional hooker". Perhaps your "date" was too close to being the former. One looks for somewhere in the middle.

Btw. not to pick a fight, but who the hell are you to tell anyone to "get the hell out of Thermae"or anywhere for that matter? She has more right to be there than you and you should know by going into Thermae that although most girls are there every night or every other night.. there is a small smattering of true ""end of month" or sometime freelancers who stop by when they have a temporary need. That's the chance you take and that's the opportunity other mongers seek. If you want something more guaranteed, learn to distinguish between the women you meet/talk to (it's not that hard if you make a minimal effort)

I had the fortune of meeting a true non Thermae regular at Thermae last year. Wonderful girl.

btw here's another tip. Don't be shy about specific requests that are important to you (for e.g. BBBJ) Ask the girl. They won't be offended. and IF they are/ or appear to be - that's a good signal you've chosen one you need to run away from.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2422035]Part 2.

We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.

We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.

After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.

It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.[/QUOTE]If you do whithout a condom, you defenately are prone to Herpes. Especially deep throat. No thank you for me. Yes saying, read the internet.

[QUOTE=SuperBuilder2;2422236]If you do whithout a condom, you defenately are prone to Herpes. Especially deep throat. No thank you for me. Yes saying, read the internet.[/QUOTE]You can get herpes on areas condoms don't cover. Warts as well. This hobby has its risks. If you are not willing to take them, then you should stay monogamous.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2422035]Part 2.

We exit Thermae Cafe into the rain-filled night. On the way to the hotel, we get some sandwiches and soft drinks from 7-11. The sandwiches taste like crap. After eating in the room, she says you give me money. I tell her "Take your panty off and go take a shower. I give you money after. " I think she understood.

We are on the bed about to start. I tell her blowjob. She says condom. Covered blowjob wasn't what I was looking for. But it doesn't look like a BBBJ is going to happen. I probably should have kicked her out right then. Anyway, I put the condom on. She reluctantly sucks on it for literally 10 seconds and then stops, acting like I tried to stick a giant baseball bat down her throat. Fucking liar. As I'm pounding away missionary style, I try to kiss her. She freaks out. So I gently place my left hand below her hips and stick my index finger up her ass. It does not enter very far since she is very tight down there. She freaks out even more. At least it was not a giant baseball bat.

After about 10 minutes, I don't see it happening. I just want her to leave so I stop. I think about just giving her 2000 baht for lying about the blowjob. But I give her the 2500 baht.

It turns out she really is a college student. I can tell she hates going to Thermae. She needs to decide what she wants to be. If you want to be a hooker, then act like one. If you want to be a college student, then get the hell out of Thermae. It sure as hell looks like Mr. Syzygies is right about Thermae Cafe.[/QUOTE]Well, I probably would have given her much less, perhaps 500 Baht if I was feeling generous, a couple of hundred if I was not. And truth be told, I can almost guarantee you that she has pulled this stunt with a lot of other guys and gotten away with it. They know what they are doing and can size a dude up pretty quickly. But yes, most don't want to be hookers but they don't want to work a regular job either. I pretty much swore off FLs a few years ago when I had a string of experiences like yours. I would explain to the gal, in Thai, that I expected her to service me like a boyfriend or like what she would see in a "sex movie" and for the most part they looked dumbfounded.

Thermae was a party every night back in the day. The gals were almost all drinking and there would be quite a few dancing by the jukebox. They would grab your unit as you walked by and proposition you. They were quite aggressive and very forward. We western dudes like this, Asian guys are turned off by it for the most part. I would also imagine a gal who acts shy and inexperienced can be a bit of a turn on to some of the Asian guys. They also have the fantasy that the gal is "cleaner" as so many are paranoid about catching something, as we read about here on the forum ad nauseam these days. But for me, I like the gal next door; if I live next door to a brothel. I like them experienced with dirty minds and dirty mouths. That's hard to find in Thailand. Used to be common in the oiles, not so much any more. Asians, who are the main customers, just want different things. And they are the majority of the market.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2422253]You can get herpes on areas condoms don't cover. Warts as well. This hobby has its risks. If you are not willing to take them, then you should stay monogamous.[/QUOTE]Here here. Not only can you still get herpes and virtually everything else if you wear a condom (rips, tears, slipping off, etc) but you can also get anything and everything even if you are monogamous. Unless you know with 100% certainty your partner is disease free and will remain monogamous as well.