Bangkok Reports

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2423271]I don't remember a time when a mamasan ever recommended a girl to me. At least not one I thought was interesting or good looking enough to actually barfine and give a try. Just hard cases who probably need a customer, any customer, very badly. Oh, I have had mamasans walk over to me in a bar with a good looking girl, both smiling, and ask if the girl can sit with me. Maybe that was a recommendation and I did not see it that way. I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"

In this case, the mamasan only said to the girl that I had already called down and was sitting next to me after ordering a Ladydrink, "Take care of him." But I suspect she says that to every girl in front of every customer all the time. Besides, I don't even think the girl spoke English well enough to fully understand what the mamasan said. The mamasan said it in English for me to hear and understand, not the girl.

No mamasan has ever asked me what I want from a girl. I would honestly tell her if one ever asked me. LOL. But since none has ever been curious or interested enough to even ask me if there is anything special or different that I require that might convince me to part with upwards of 3000-4000 baht at this time on this night with any girl in their bar, my assumption is the mamasan thinks I am only interested in paying for basic, standard fare of "lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed." I have no sense that a mamasan knows what worked so well for me behind closed doors with a previous girl in her bar to now be selecting other girls for me on that basis. So there is zero advantage to me in taking an otherwise unseen girl a mamasan brings over to me at random.[/QUOTE]I agree that mamasans in Go go bars have quite limited use. Obviously to translate if there is a language barrier. Speaking Thai, I don't have a need. Mamasan is largely a nuisance. If you buy her a drink she will keep pestering you from then on.

Can ask mamasan if your particular favourite girl has been working lately or in attendance. I never take the mamasans recommendation, since they have not fucked the girl. The reverse is different though. There have been gogos where I am very well known to certain reliable staff, who have been tipped for good information. For example if I asked serving staff girl Yao at Suzie Wong (in the past), what she thought about a particular girl, if she warned me off the girl (indicating not likely good for me), I would take notice. Bar girls can be very nice or can be duds or problematic. The bar staff are likely to know which girls usually leave good customers unhappy, and which girls can really be fun.

The only time a mamasan is of any use to me is when she kicks guys out of the seat I want because she knows I will spend more than the guys currently occupying the seat. So if you get booted from a prime gogo bar seat in Pattaya just scream out "WTF BB".

[QUOTE=Forest;2423385]I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.[/QUOTE]You can sign up with tinder with an email or Facebook. So just create a fake account or a mongering email. Sign up and then just delete it after. Tinder is owned by the match group and if they ban your email or Facebook you can't use it again. They may also flag your name, so use a fake name next time you sign up.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2423271] I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"
[/QUOTE]That is spot on, the usual motivation, mamasan is not there for the customer (that much), unless you are very regular and have made it worth her while.

[QUOTE=Forest;2423385]I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.

[QUOTE=Forest;2423385]I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

Forest.[/QUOTE]I been in Angeles City few months ago with a friend, he used Tinder alot and many pinay wanted to move the conversation to whatsapp ASAP for talking about ST-LT money and service, they didn't want to talk about it on tinder.

I would like to summarise my recent experience mongering in Bangkok during the virus outbreak. I am of East Asian descent, but was born and raised in a North American country. For privacy reasons I will not disclose my specific ethnicity. But when I come to Thailand, girls tend to guess I am Korean, Chinese, Hong Konger, or Singaporean. Given I often pass for Chinese, I was unsure what sort of treatment I would get.

I stayed for 2 weeks during late Jan / early Feb and had girls from a variety of sources, including gogos (Nana), escorts (BGE and Smooci), BJ salons, nurus, and freelancers from various apps. I have written several reports in their respective sections on the Thailand forum.

To my relief, girls weren't really fazed by me at all. My fluent English and Western personality / mannerisms certainly helped, and I was never turned down by providers. I got a lot of jokes from the girls, who would ask me if I'm from Wuhan and laugh, but I was prepared for this. The mamasans in the gogos would point at me and scream "Wuhan!" jokingly which was kind of annoying, but it was all in good fun. For the escorts who came to my room, the first thing I did was show them my passport and say "I'm not from China, don't worry" to which they responded with laughter. I would also make them wash their hands thoroughly first thing as well as gargle with Listerine, which made them realize I am serious about cleanliness. But overall, I was never treated with suspicion or paranoia, nor was refused service during my time here. I did however receive some judgey stares from a white couple at a a restaurant when I sat down next to them.

I did see several venues restrict customers from China though:

- The Pimp: if you have traveled to China in the last 30 days, you are not allowed entry. They will inspect every page in your passport to check the entry / exit stamps.

- Doki Doki: sign posted at front desk that says they cannot serve customers who have traveled to China in the last 30 days, but they did not check my passport when I went.

Overall, the Thais are still very welcoming of Chinese despite rising cases here (33 as of today). Most people are wearing masks in public. Thailand remains one of the few countries in Asia who have not imposed travel restrictions on travelers from China, and many Chinese are desperate to escape the bleak situation are coming to Thailand in droves, even after the CNY holiday.

Happy mongering and stay safe everyone!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2423456]Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.[/QUOTE]It probably is one or more girls reported the OP to Tinder that caused the problem.

Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.

Dark dress in middle.

First night, arrived when cafe just opened. Few guys circling. Took and seat and talked to an older woman. The older women at the cafe always nice. I was boorish. Was encouraged repeatedly to take a girl. Was not particularly in the mood but went a few laps. One of the girls took my wrist as I passed. Surprisingly attractive when I got a better look at her. Wore different makeup than vid, black jumpsuit that accentuated curves, strap heels. About 5'5. Girl-next-door type with exotic features. Quoted 2500. Acceptable. Decided to try Ruamchitt. Price for ST room was about 700 baht. Seemed to be her first time at the hotel and we got lost on the way up. Became v giggly. Ended up on wrong floor again, which made her to keel over and laugh. Found right room next attempt. Turned on air conditioner, closed shades. The room was a double, beds small. Worse, the bed frames had wheels so they gradually got displaced from headboards by activity. Appearance-wise, no tattoos, no loose skin or blemishes. Was not curvy, but OK, went with the girl-next-door vibe. Beginning at roughly 20 minutes and repeating every 5 or so minutes she would enjoin me to finish. After a number of injunctions, managed to obey. Would not let COF, so went to COB. In rush to pull off, condom snapped in my hand and accidentally splashed her face. Evoked brief scream and from scream my frantic concern.

Once sex was over, she was lively and giggly again. Coming down told me she started less than a month ago and came to cafe 2 nights a week. Not entirely true, during the next week she was there every day. Always in dress instead of jumpsuit. First night she was on left side, but subsequent seems to prefer right, in spot with bright lighting.

Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top.

Was in cafe for almost an hour. Did not find anyone I liked. Girl from group behind bar asked me to come over to talk. She knew Japanese but not much English. Did not have much to talk about. Finally, decided to take her. Talked down to 2000. She said 30 minutes. Tomboyish personality. Fake hipster glasses which complimented longish face shape. Long eyelashes, pale skin. Crows feet around eyes, due to makeup probably. Said age 24, worked in sales during the day, which may explain her forwardness. Friend told her about "the cafe". Seemed to lack indoor speaking voice. Spoke loudly in large empty lobby. In room, kicked off her heels and turned on music on speakerphone. For some reason shy about body. Hid in bathroom. Dimmed the lights so much it was nearly dark. Maybe because she accepted 2000. Refused BJ. She took off glasses. Told her to put glasses back on. After 10 minutes, began telling me to hurry. Went faster and deeper, but nowhere near finishing. Whimpering, repeated 'no's, cute anguished expression, but submissive. Seemed resigned to bearing it. Couldn't resist going harder. Fun to be cruel. Almost fell off bed. Me pouring sweat, her whimpering it hurt. Far from finishing so ended it. As soon as I said she could leave, transformed into upbeat tomboyish girl again. Accused me of having gone over 30 minutes, which I denied, but forgot I'd made that agreement at all.

Black string blouse in middle.

Told me from Issan. Pale skin, large eyes set somewhat wide apart, full lips. Earlier that trip, I'd seen another westerner walking with short thermae girl. Walked a little distance apart and seemed uncomfortable. Since then, made an effort to walk arm-in-arm, hand-over-shoulder, hand-in-hand. Anyway, walked about 5-10 minutes back to hotel. Had to demand repeatedly to shower together. Was friendly, but very shy. Insisted on dimming the lights. During penetration, when eye contact, would hum to herself and smile. No lube, so was dry at first. Then condom broke. Rinsed in shower, returned to bed. This time used spit. Around 2 am Said I was only guy. Was happy when I said she was pretty. 2000 or 2500.

Small sitting brown girl.

Almost took her several times. No chemistry. Cold and awkward, little English. Quoted 2500.

Oval-faced girl on left.

About to take her but was snatched by elderly Asian with lower-class manners. Unfortunate.

Was chatting with above glasses girl night after sex. Saw Japanese man with peaked black hoodie saunter by. Dressed all black, long hoodie. Resembled goth cosplay. V out of place and amusing sight. Later saw him talking animatedly with older woman in vid. Older woman spoke Japanese. Earlier in trip, showed me chats on her phone from Japanese man. Couldn't read Japanese but lots of exclamation marks. Picture of her and Japanese man. Apparently testimonies of her good service.

[QUOTE=Lager;2424390]Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.
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Small sitting brown girl. [URL]https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120[/URL].

Almost took her several times. No chemistry. Cold and awkward, little English. Quoted 2500.
...[/QUOTE]I almost took her about two weeks ago myself. Big smile as I approached. Very personable as we chatted a moment about things in general. Then it came time to get to it. It being Thermae, I had to ask something to see if it was worth the hassle of walking out with her and down the road a bit; "Do you like to kiss?" pointing to my lips and hers. She said, "Oh, not so much." Already a no-go in my mind. However, with little to lose and willing to be surprised, I asked, "Are you ok if I kiss you everywhere?", discretely gesturing with as small circle to indicate her whole body. Her smile dropped and, with a very pained expression her face, she said, "Oh. Maybe just a little bit, but not too much."

Done and out. Same as you, I decided there was simply no chemistry to bother taking her. Thanks for this report. I thought it was because I was a farang. And an older one at that. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2424618]I almost took her about two weeks ago myself. Big smile as I approached. Very personable as we chatted a moment about things in general. Then it came time to get to it. It being Thermae, I had to ask something to see if it was worth the hassle of walking out with her and down the road a bit; "Do you like to kiss?" pointing to my lips and hers. She said, "Oh, not so much." Already a no-go in my mind. However, with little to lose and willing to be surprised, I asked, "Are you ok if I kiss you everywhere?", discretely gesturing with as small circle to indicate her whole body. Her smile dropped and, with a very pained expression her face, she said, "Oh. Maybe just a little bit, but not too much."

Done and out. Same as you, I decided there was simply no chemistry to bother taking her. Thanks for this report. I thought it was because I was a farang and an older one at that. LOL.[/QUOTE]She a working girl. What does she do? That's ridiculous. What do the guys who take her get for their 2500 Baht? She should go work at 7.
We should get a group together, say 5 or 6 of us, go into thermae 15 min apart, approach her and each ask her if she rims and takes it in the rice exit. That'd be a hoot.

[QUOTE=Lager;2424390]Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.[/QUOTE]Nice.

I am going to stay 7 nights at Ruamchitt late March this year.

But now I am thinking maybe I should cancel because of how you described the beds. I have Deluxe Twin Room.

Also I am not Asian and these girls don't seem to be fun. Even If the "Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top" is my type.

Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video: [URL]https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120.[/URL].

She is not the girl you guys are talking about, so it has no bearing on the conversation pro or con. I knew she moonlighted in Thermae occasionally with her girl friend. She has a day job as an Insurance Company rep girl and used to work at Baccara up until 2014 when she was younger and a lot sexier. I still see her semi-regularly, but not on account of the sex which has no surprises anymore, but because she is a good girl, has a kinky sense of humor, and because I just like her. Go figure.

BTW, I give her 4000bt whenever I see her. Not because that is her asking price. Her Thermae price is 2500 bt and that is probably negotiable. Ha Ha. But her original no negotiation price when I first met her in Baccara back in 2009 was 2000 baht and that was top dollar back then. In all this time she has never asked me for more. I give her 4000 because I know her rent is 4500/month including utilities and like I said, I just like her. Basically I am helping to support her by giving her half of year's rent. I guess that makes her my part time mistress. 555.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2424636]Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video.[/QUOTE]How is it that the guy who films these videos is always as if he is invisible? The girls don't even glance at him. It's the same when he's waking the streets.