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Interesting night. As I have said, the good and bad times generally come in waves.

A very cute, young, slim, waif-like freelancer Matches me on Tinder or rather I Matched her, says she is only in Bkk for three days and needs money. She has clicked on me before and we already had each other's Line from a previous time but she apparently does not remember or she just wants to remind me we have not met yet. The exchange essentially comes down to I will pay her 2000-3000 baht for "good, real sex and will not pay for bad sex", that is all. She is cute enough for me to go with the flow and see what happens in the room. It turns out she is from Isaan, of course, and comes to Bangkok every now and then with her friend who works in Hillary Bar (I didn't even ask which one), but hates to drink alcohol so she does not work in a bar and only freelances.

Unfortunately, what happens in the room is she is about as erotic and willing to please me as a cactus plant. She plops down next to me in bed after her shower, grabs my dick like a hanging strap on the skytrain and starts pulling it like she wants me to cum in record time. No way is that going to happen even if I wanted to cum in record time. So I remove her hand and try to kiss her on the lips. No way is that going to happen either. "Oh, I just ate spicy food," she says. I say, let's just relax for a minute first, wanting to at least cuddle a moment before plunging right in. I make a move to DATY. All of this including the "let's just relax a minute first" comment elicits little "ugh" type groans of impatience from her. She has her pattern, she's sticking to it and it is a really lousy one for the customer, imo. I tell her she seems to only be interested in what she wants to do, not what I want to do. The DATY comes to an abrupt end the instant I dip my tongue the tiniest bit into her slit and she yelps, "NOT so deep!" Believe me, it was not deep.

"Ok", I say as I stand up and wipe my mouth with the nearest towel, "I'm going to call this Very Bad Sex. Thanks for stopping by. I will give you 100 baht for your time. " She dresses in silence and out she goes. Bye.

So I head over to Nana Plaza. Passing Angelwitch go-go bar, a doorgirl hooks my arm and tries to pull me in. My hand cups her bare butt (except for a thong bikini bottom) and it feels great. I pop a boner almost immediately and go inside the bar with her. She stays with me, I buy her a drink and it is about as immediate, erotic and pleasant a chemistry as I have felt with a new girl in a long time. Nice, sleek, satiny smooth body and skin, no tits to speak of and a face for which I might generously give a rating of 6. But she is a sweet girl and feels great in my hands. After one LD which she barely touches, apparently not wanting this magical time of her sitting on my lap to end, I hear her tell me she REALLY wants me to pay the barfine and take her. I REALLY want to as well. However, despite the fact that she kept repeating, "I really like you. I want make you happy. Don't worry. If you are happy I am happy," the earlier episode with the freelancer told me this might turn out to be one of those nights. So I had to ask if that meant she would be ok to boom boom me no condom.

No way, no how, not tonight, not ever. And as she was about to launch into a safety lecture, I stopped her and said, "No problem, honey. Kow jai (I understand). I feel very safe about what I do but I know you must feel safe, too. So I cannot take you. But thank you for sitting with me anyway. Nice meeting you." I paid our drink bill, gave her a 100 baht note and left.

Then I capped this night off with a stop in Geisha Bar. I wasn't all that interested in what I was seeing on stage or sitting around on the stools. The girl I'd taken a couple of times in the previous weeks was not there. But after a few minutes sitting with my drink a fairly cute little spinner on stage I'd never seen before gestures to me, the only one among a couple of dozen girls there at 11pm who seemed to even notice me. So I chuckled and called her over. She is very fluent in English, energetic, wears big glasses and goes by the name Pim. As soon as her LD hits the counter she leans over and says, "I have been dancing for so long here night after night, I am very happy to finally sit down. But I should tell you I never go to hotel with customer for sex. No. Never. I only get Ladydrinks."

I should have called the server over and told her to take that drink off my bill right then and there. But for whatever reason I didn't. Maybe I was kind of gobsmacked that they wouldn't at least put these little scammers in different clothes or wear a different badge or something to identify them as no sex and only LD scammers on stage. Plus I guess I was kind of curious what kind of girl pulls that shit at a time when customer numbers are down by major percentages.

Anyway, within a minute or so, her "rest time" off the stage was over. I paid my bill, said bye to Pim and walked over to the mamasan. I asked her why there is no identification for the girls who only get LDs and never go to the hotel for sex with a customer. The mamasan seemed shocked that anyone would ask such a thing. "Up to girl!"

"Uh, I know it is up to the girl to decide if she wants to have sex with a customer. I'm talking about a girl who gestures to a customer for a drink, sits down and the instant her LD arrives she tells the customer she will not be leaving with him for sex. I didn't even talk to her about sex. Is this bar a scammer bar now?"

"Which girl!?"

"That one sitting on the stool in front of the stage. Pim."

Voice raised, not to the girl, to me, "Why you not ask if she goes to hotel for sex before you buy drink!??"

"Trust me, now that I know this is a scammer bar, I will ask every girl, IF I ever come in here again." As I turned and walked out of Geisha Bar Nana Plaza, the mamasan was still shouting something about this topic at me but I could not really hear through the loud music. However, I am pretty sure it wasn't anything like, oh, please don't go we have plenty of girls to take care of you.

I have been asked several times recently by guys who come to Bangkok often throughout the year but have not been able to make it happen for one reason or another during this coronavirus hysteria if the girls are working harder to please the few remaining customers, offering and providing more, cutting their asking prices and so on.

Well, they can assess what is in these reports on Thermae, the massage shops and my experience with a freelancer and two different go-go bars tonight in order judge for themselves if that is anywhere close to the way Thai people in the P4P industry deal with economic hard times. In my experience, offering and providing more while charging less is not the way Thai people in the P4P industry deal with economic hard times.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2424636]Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video: [URL]https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120.[/URL].

She is not the girl you guys are talking about, so it has no bearing on the conversation pro or con. I knew she moonlighted in Thermae occasionally with her girl friend. She has a day job as an Insurance Company rep girl and used to work at Baccara up until 2014 when she was younger and a lot sexier. I still see her semi-regularly, but not on account of the sex which has no surprises anymore, but because she is a good girl, has a kinky sense of humor, and because I just like her. Go figure.

BTW, I give her 4000bt whenever I see her. Not because that is her asking price. Her Thermae price is 2500 bt and that is probably negotiable. Ha Ha. But her original no negotiation price when I first met her in Baccara back in 2009 was 2000 baht and that was top dollar back then. In all this time she has never asked me for more. I give her 4000 because I know her rent is 4500/month including utilities and like I said, I just like her. Basically I am helping to support her by giving her half of year's rent. I guess that makes her my part time mistress. 555.[/QUOTE]Which girl is she? What time stamp on the video does she show up? Just curious on what your taste tend to go in girls. Personally, I like the girl at 2:51 of the video and another at 10:23.

[QUOTE=Lager;2424390]Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.

Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top. [URL]https://youtu.be/e4IAhio45z4?t=116[/URL].

Was in cafe for almost an hour. Did not find anyone I liked. Girl from group behind bar asked me to come over to talk. She knew Japanese but not much English. Did not have much to talk about. Finally, decided to take her. Talked down to 2000. She said 30 minutes. Tomboyish personality. Fake hipster glasses which complimented longish face shape. Long eyelashes, pale skin. Crows feet around eyes, due to makeup probably. Said age 24, worked in sales during the day, which may explain her forwardness. [/QUOTE]Good report, thank you.

That girl looked more like 44 to me.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2424641]How is it that the guy who films these videos is always as if he is invisible? The girls don't even glance at him. It's the same when he's waking the streets.[/QUOTE]Thanks to whomever posted the videos. Thermae is not at all as I expected. For some reason I thought the girls would all be in cocktail dresses or the like. Like fishbowl girls. Surprised to see so many dressed casually or a bit frumpy in pants. Won't keep me from doing them! But thanks for the heads up to set expectations. 🙏.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2424641]How is it that the guy who films these videos is always as if he is invisible? The girls don't even glance at him. It's the same when he's waking the streets.[/QUOTE]These cameras can be as small as a bottle cap. The lens at least. In this case, it appears from the low, waist high angle that he put the camera in a fanny pack with a hole in it for the lens or perhaps even on or near his belt buckle. Nobody knows they're being caught on video.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2424620]She a working girl. What does she do? That's ridiculous. What do the guys who take her get for their 2500 Baht? She should go work at 7.
We should get a group together, say 5 or 6 of us, go into thermae 15 min apart, approach her and each ask her if she rims and takes it in the rice exit. That'd be a hoot.[/QUOTE]Those are all good questions. I have taken to directly asking lazy hookers why they are in the business if they never actually DO anything and say NO to almost anything a customer would actually want sexually.

Of course, it's hard to argue and shame a girl out of her chosen profession if she can make 2,000 - 4,000 baht, more than a week's pay, for doing almost nothing pro-actively in a hotel room for 30 minutes.

I was in Hillary 2 a few nights ago and minding my own business when two Thai ladies sat to each side of me at one of those round table tops. Shortly thereafter, this petite girl with honey colored hair wearing a cute sundress came over to talk to these women. I indicated to one of the ladies my interest in her friend and she immediately took the bait and curled up in my arms like a little kitten.

It was not my intention to pick up someone that night but decided to make an exception and after fifteen minutes of snuggling she proposed we go to my hotel. I am staying at an apartment but nevertheless took the bait and we made our way over to the apartment. At first, I was hoping she was a part time P4 P as I find they are the best of all worlds. However, as we were ambling up Soi 4, she said Hello, to some gal in front of 7/11 and wondered if I had misread the situation.

After our arrival at my apartment, I mentioned I was traveling to DaNang next week because my visa was expiring and would spend several days there. I could see her catch her breath for a second and then she told that she was from DaNang. I also caught my breath as I was not pleased to hear this. Last winter, I had two experiences with Vietnamese girls I met in Hillary 2 and one I kicked out of of the apartment before we even got going and the other I wish that I had.

Given she was already there, I decided to go ahead. She went in to shower and then I took mine. When I returned she was buried under the sheets, a bad sign if I ever saw one. To cut to the chase, after several minutes, I decided to cut short our encounter. It was like banging a dead fish and about as non erotic as could be. She would not kiss either. Even though I stayed hard, I lost interest due to her lackadaisical attitude and decided enough was enough.

I left 1500 b on top of her purse and was tempted to leave less as we never discussed money beforehand. True to form, she was clueless as how uninspired her performance was by attempting to give me a kiss on the forehead as she left. BTW, her name is Hien.

I had vowed last year to toss off any entreaties from Vietnamese girls in and around NaNa. Now, the three strike rule is solidly in effect. Unfortunately, I forgot to ask her nationality this time probably cause her friends appeared to be Thai and her girl next door attitude in the bar.

I had a dud session with a rather good-looking Vietnamese girl who was waiting across the street outside Nana Plaza. She indicated she was deaf, which I thought shouldn't be a problem. I don't know whether the poor performance was due to her deafness.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2424789]Those are all good questions. I have taken to directly asking lazy hookers why they are in the business if they never actually DO anything and say NO to almost anything a customer would actually want sexually.

Of course, it's hard to argue and shame a girl out of her chosen profession if she can make 2,000 - 4,000 baht, more than a week's pay, for doing almost nothing pro-actively in a hotel room for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Blame is 100% with the punters. Obviously there are guys that are accepting this and paying full price for it instead of kicking the gal out with a couple hundred Baht. Amazing that mongers get so little today and don't seem to care.

[QUOTE=XXL;2424836]I had a dud session with a rather good-looking Vietnamese girl who was waiting across the street outside Nana Plaza. She indicated she was deaf, which I thought shouldn't be a problem. I don't know whether the poor performance was due to her deafness.[/QUOTE]I would say it was because she is from Vietnam. Plenty of reports on here about good experiences with deaf (Thai) girls. I would like to invite any readers to post your good experiences about Viet girls you met in Bangkok. Let's see if anyone has one.

Just for the record, I have been to Vietnam and had very nice experiences whilst there with the ladies.

[QUOTE=XXL;2424836]I had a dud session with a rather good-looking Vietnamese girl who was waiting across the street outside Nana Plaza. She indicated she was deaf, which I thought shouldn't be a problem. I don't know whether the poor performance was due to her deafness.[/QUOTE]I've had three of the deaf girls who stand in front of Nana Hotel sign. One was a dud, one was kind of sweet but needs improvement, one was actually quite good. I took the one that was quite good twice several months ago but have not seen her out there since. She was one of the "deaf girls with hair braids" clones, some of whom are still standing there almost every night. But she was a bit older than the others. She had a nice, fit body and, wonder of wonders, understood how to create a good sex session. The other two are still working the area in the afternoons and evenings.

It is said, "A man falls in love with his eyes, a woman with her ears. " So you are dealing with a female who has not fallen in love with any man based on his voice, how he plays on her emotions with sweet talk, wooing her and so on. I am not saying deaf girls are incapable of those feelings by a long shot. But I have to say I got a cooler, less intimate feeling with those girls than most. Even with the quite good one in bed. I suppose the counterpart would be if you were blind from birth. Would you really be moved one way or the other by a woman's effort to make herself look nice for you on a date?

[QUOTE=XXL;2424836]I had a dud session with a rather good-looking Vietnamese girl who was waiting across the street outside Nana Plaza. She indicated she was deaf, which I thought shouldn't be a problem. I don't know whether the poor performance was due to her deafness.[/QUOTE]I've had three of the deaf girls who stand in front of Nana Hotel sign. One was a dud, one was kind of sweet but needs improvement, one was actually quite good. I took the one that was quite good twice several months ago but have not seen her out there since. She was one of the "deaf girls with hair braids" clones, some of whom are still standing there almost every night. But she was a bit older than the others. She had a nice, fit body and, wonder of wonders, understood how to create a good sex session. The other two are still working the area in the afternoons and evenings.

It is said, "A man falls in love with his eyes, a woman with her ears." So you are dealing with a female who has not fallen in love with any man based on his voice, how he plays on her emotions with sweet talk, wooing her and so on. I am not saying deaf girls are incapable of those feelings by a long shot. But I have to say I got a cooler, less intimate feeling with those girls than most. Even with the quite good one in bed. I suppose the counterpart would be if you were blind from birth. Would you really be moved one way or the other by a woman's effort to make herself look nice for you on a date?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2424874]I've had three of the deaf girls who stand in front of Nana Hotel sign. One was a dud, one was kind of sweet but needs improvement, one was actually quite good. I took the one that was quite good twice several months ago but have not seen her out there since. She was one of the "deaf girls with hair braids" clones, some of whom are still standing there almost every night. But she was a bit older than the others. She had a nice, fit body and, wonder of wonders, understood how to create a good sex session. The other two are still working the area in the afternoons and evenings.

It is said, "A man falls in love with his eyes, a woman with her ears." So you are dealing with a female who has not fallen in love with any man based on his voice, how he plays on her emotions with sweet talk, wooing her and so on. I am not saying deaf girls are incapable of those feelings by a long shot. But I have to say I got a cooler, less intimate feeling with those girls than most. Even with the quite good one in bed. I suppose the counterpart would be if you were blind from birth. Would you really be moved one way or the other by a woman's effort to make herself look nice for you on a date?[/QUOTE]But the Chewbacca noises.

The Thermae video is a perfect illustration of why I leave alone 95% of the time. And how uninspiring in every way that place is.

I can't remember the last time I have seen anything remotely attractive on the street on Soi 4. It's not just the looks, it's also the obvious mercenary attitudes.

Nana also almost undoable these days. I had one place that I could rely on most of the time. That seems to have gone down the toilet.

So what's left?

If we want girls with decent service (even if mechanical) = nuru massages with good reviews.

Experienced sex = older escorts from agencies or smooci.

Normal massage non happy = health land.

Still good.

I wanted to try 2-3 girls from Billboard at Nana, but afraid of rumors they have post OP there. One of those gorgeous looking girls does not even seem Thai.