Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;2426941]I am not sure it will get there in thailand. One of my most disappointing thai trips was shortly after the king passed. I hesitated on going but thought with all the earlier closures and tourist numbers down the supply and demand curves would work in my favor, total fail. Selection wasn't a problem at all, but there was movement at all on prices or service. In fact in a lot of ways I think it was worse since with the bars closing at midnight I was there at close and the girls wouldn't negotiate worth a shit, not even on 500 thb. Due to the shortened hours they pushed drinks heavy and then got all sorts of pushbacks, only ST, only NANA hotels, wouldn't come down from 3 k to 2500, list goes on. It was all in all just annoying and got on my nerves, probably went home alone more than any other trip. I think it was best explained as thai economics. Instead of the normal supply and demand curves as demand falls prices go up since the girl is only going to get 1 customer every 3-5 days instead of 1 every day and treats her pussy as a resource that is going to wear out and can be held for future use. We all know that age and that missed night is one less in their total working life to earn, but that just isn't the thai mindset.

Where I would expect to see it is in the part timers first since they are more tuned into earning now since it can't be earned tomorrow, so maybe the FL, wechat, and thermae part timers will see the opportunity first.[/QUOTE]Interesting observation and I share it. I was here before and after the King died and I did not notice one iota of improvement in the Value For Money ratio while doom, gloom and lower punter traffic prevailed for many months, even years.

I sometimes seriously wonder if any but a tiny fraction of these girls are in the P4P business for the usual storied reasons of "desperation" for financial support, milk for their babies, get mom out of the hospital, blah, blah, blah. I don't mean anyone should ever have taken that crap literally. But even as a tale for them to tell as a substitute for any other serious reasons for going the P4P route, it just doesn't add up.

By now I have heard hundreds if not thousands of "I must have (fill in the baht amount here) tomorrow or I'll die! Please, can I come see you today??" stories and variations of them. I used to work out ways to help IF this and that happened with no greater rate of memorable success in the bed at crunch time than I get with the girls who are so busy with customers it takes days for them to return a Line message.

And, of course, now that I almost never respond to those pleas of "tomorrow I will die!" anymore, every one of those "desperate" girls, old repeats and new contacts alike, are still alive and kicking days later, no reports of their death, starved babies, moms prevented from leaving hospitals for lack of payment or anything of the kind. No, they show up again just as before, no change in their life or routine, seemingly well fed and taken care of and no memory of me having casually chosen their death over seeing them for a P4P fuck and suck several days earlier.

Maybe this time it will be different. Eventually. But I am not planning on it and would honestly be shocked if it was.

The only difference I have seen or noticed so far after a few weeks of coronavirus hysteria downturn is Thai street girls bothering to engage in conversation a tad longer than usual with certain heretofore ethnic undesirables to them and a slight uptick in the number of "Hi. How are you?" Line messages I'm getting from my regulars.

But in no case in my experience at least are agreements to do more, do better and/or for less money being made either on the street, in the bars or among my regulars. Not in Thailand, that is. Not yet anyway.

Speaking of Thermae, was there tonight around closing time. It was quite dead.

Was fortunate enough to see my one girl in her usual spot at the usual time.

We went out, caught up on missed times, grabbed some food on the street, came back to room, talked some more.

And then she did what she does so well, which is taking care of little Catire.

Also told me some fascinating stories about her Japanese and Korean clientele, as I am her only farang.

The stories are quite interesting. E. g. Difference between generations. Difference between Korean and Japanese customers.

Oh and BTW. Japanese schlongs are apparently bigger these days.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2427045]Not in Thailand, that is. Not yet anyway.[/QUOTE]Right, but for prices to fall significantly a lot more would have to occur. For example: the pandemic doomsday scenario in which hundreds of thousands if not millions die would certainly be enough to affect price and attitudes in an eventually very positive and significant way from the surviving consumer's point of view. The aftermath of WW II is a perfect example. Berlin Pussy in the summer of 1945 was equal to the price of a Hershey's chocolate bar, but it took the total destruction of the Third Reich and 60 million dead in Europe to get there. So far with only 79,000 reported cases and 2,470 deaths, the vast majority in China; the Bat Virus is small potatoes compared to the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 which infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims. I post these historical facts only to give the current situation a little perspective. Sure, there is some softening demand in Thailand for hotel rooms and pussy, I have seen some deals on the hotel reservation sites and it is interesting to note which hotels are offering the discounts like the Grande Center Point T21 which usually has a great many Chinese and Korean guests and which hotels are not offering any significant discounts like the nearby Hyatt Regency.

All I am saying is that while the Coronavirus is real and commands our serious attention, it is not a disaster or pandemic yet for any country except maybe China. For sure it has affected international travel, but not to the point where we are going to see a huge drop in the price of BKK girls. At least not yet. So far there has only been 35 reported cases in Thailand and no new cases in at least a week or 10 days which is pretty damn good news actually. So I think what you might see right now is more, better availability not doom and gloom. Hey guys on the ground: how busy are the Go Go's and FL nightclubs currently? Full, busy but not full, half empty, or empty. From what my girls are telling me, I believe the Go Go's are somewhat busy, but not anywhere close to full capacity. Kind of like low season.

In any case, let's see how this thing plays out. If the virus starts to multiply exponentially, BKK will become a ghost town and more significantly the Government will close it down. The girls will be afraid to go out to the bars and so will we. But, I think we are a long way off from that. Anyway, I have my fingers crossed and We shall see what we shall see.

Girls know the price level to pitch to get business for example i2500 at Thermae. I know I know you can negotiate but that's the going rate. So what happens when because there are fewer punters to go around more girls are going home empty handed more often. Do they stick to the 2500 until things get back to normal or do a sufficient number break ranks and reduce it to say 2000 or even 1500 to hook a trick? I feel it comes down to how badly they need the money. If the rent is overdue will she turn down 1500 knowing only the more in demand girls can score at 2500. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Another facet of the situation is whether service levels will improve when there are fewer customers in that the girls will realize repeat business becomes more important. As an aside we haven't seen the worst of this virus yet. Over the weekend South Korea Italy and the UK have come into play in a major way. Personally while I don't wear a mask I have never washed my hands more often.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2427059]
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Hey guys on the ground: how busy are the Go Go's and FL nightclubs currently? Full, busy but not full, half empty, or empty. From what my girls are telling me, I believe the Go Go's are somewhat busy, but not anywhere close to full capacity. Kind of like low season.
...[/QUOTE]Regarding the go-go bar scene, as of this past weekend your girls' assessment is the same as my assessment. Lately, I have gone into Billboard, Butterflies, Geisha Bar, Mandarin, Angelwitch, Kazy Kozy, Tilac, Baccara and several beer bars as well and typical low season is about right.

I would also say I have not felt any more welcome, needed, catered to, noticed or flirted with than usual by the girls working in the bars. If the prospect of unpaid rent or empty rice bowls is hanging like a dark cloud over their heads I saw no evidence of concern about it in their eyes or behavior.

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The stories are quite interesting. E. g. Difference between generations. Difference between Korean and Japanese customers.

Oh and BTW. Japanese schlongs are apparently bigger these days.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's probably the result of price inflation over the years. As a matter of basic economic principles it had to go from 3-3-3 to 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 eventually. 😁

I'll bet they're taking longer to finish, too, right?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2427172]Oh, that's probably the result of price inflation over the years. As a matter of basic economic principles it had to go from 3-3-3 to 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 eventually. 😁

I'll bet they're taking longer to finish, too, right?[/QUOTE]Well, since they are harmless and just one woman's opinion or personal experience I'll share what she said. BTW, don't kill the messenger, I have no skin in the game.

First she said she will not go with any old Korean or Japanese man (which she defines as over 60). I asked why. She said it is because that generation of men treats women like shit. And will do "whatever they want with / to them". The younger and middle aged men aren't like that (I found this a very interesting, and probably truthful, in a generalizing kind of way, anecdote).

She said she prefers Koreans as customers because they are straightforward. They don't like you, they don't like you whereas a Japanese will tell you "you are beautiful, gorgeous, etc all the while having no intent to take the girl" . This jives with my own knowledge of the culture in the two countries. Japanese are impeccably polite and stridently avoid saying "no", while all the while meaning to tell you no. You have to know how they play the game to pic up on the cues. Koreans indeed aren't like that, they will be upfront.

She also likes Koreans because once they are done they roll over and go to sleep and don't bother you. (apparently from LT episodes) whereas many Japanese will caress her, rub her nipples, pussy, etc non stop until she literally gets sore LOL. (I told her, hey, men can be fascinated by female bodies, etc) and the Japanese will try whisper "sweet nothings" into her ear. Or lick her all over by the ears (by itself not that disgusting, often nice IMO< but she said often too much saliva. Gross) (and she mentioned old men's saliva often stinks. I mentioned it had to be halitocis).

The Japanese also seem to have quite the fascination with "accessories" . Dildos, plugs, you name it and want to use them on her. Which annoys her or she refuses because she has her own toys and knows her own body and can get herself off if / when she wants to.

And apparently Japanese tools are getting bigger / longer these days, while the Korean ones remain umm. "lagging".

No mention of Chinese, perhaps she doesn't go with them or very rarely.

She's MILF age now, and has a kid, but that pussy is so goddamn tight. Our reproductive organs seem to "fit" each other well and enjoy each other's company. So whereas she may be happy when another guy is done in 30 secs, she won't let me stop until she has come (especially once she; s close, then it's a real battle, as she goes crazy with her thrusting and licking, making it very difficult for me to hold off myself).

So for me, a Thermae gold mine, for almost everyone else, perhaps a pleasant experience at best. (and I am sure it would be vice versa, your pornstar might be my dud. Just goes to show you how YMMV).

Re taking longer to finish. Apparently with a significant percentage of customers it's "finish right away" . Which causes them to sheepishly apologize, and explain that they had not had sex in a long time. I told her about the stories of sexless marriages and relationships that I read all about in Japan these days, though an Asian friend strenuously disagrees with those stories, etc.

With the shellacking the markets took today even the high rollers might be keeping their wallets in their pockets this evening and visiting Mrs. Palm and her five fingers instead.

Coronavirus has certainly brought down the number of tourists and mongers by perhaps as much as 50% but neither the prices nor anything else has dropped. Hotels and girls still want same amount.

However what shocked me this time was the near complete disappearance of free lancers on Sukumvit road. I always loved to pick one or two girls from there but it was unbelievable this time. There were no more than 10 fuglies between asok and nana. That's it.

Just 10. I noticed decline from 200-300 to 1 bout 50-60 but ten? Nana area had some concentration of WGs around 9-10 pm, about 30-40 may be on.

Thursday but surprisingly numbers were down dramatically on Fri. And sat night. Beer garden was hopeless, tried several times. There were a total of two girls in front of grace hotel when I checked late in the evening. Good lord, what has happened to this place.

This is the first time I have to admit that I don't see any point in traveling to the other side of the world if this is what \Bangkok is going to become. I was extremely disappointed. Pattaya was much better and the saving grace.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2427237]Coronavirus has certainly brought down the number of tourists and mongers by perhaps as much as 50% but neither the prices nor anything else has dropped. Hotels and girls still want same amount.

However what shocked me this time was the near complete disappearance of free lancers on Sukumvit road. I always loved to pick one or two girls from there but it was unbelievable this time. There were no more than 10 fuglies between asok and nana. That's it.

Just 10. I noticed decline from 200-300 to 1 bout 50-60 but ten? Nana area had some concentration of WGs around 9-10 pm, about 30-40 may be on.

Thursday but surprisingly numbers were down dramatically on Fri. And sat night. Beer garden was hopeless, tried several times. There were a total of two girls in front of grace hotel when I checked late in the evening. Good lord, what has happened to this place.

This is the first time I have to admit that I don't see any point in traveling to the other side of the world if this is what \Bangkok is going to become. I was extremely disappointed. Pattaya was much better and the saving grace.[/QUOTE]My hotel price was definitely down a bit. And I believe my airfare was a little lower as well which is what made it an easy decision to come when afforded the opportunity.

As to how Thai working girls and business establishments, especially ones related to P4 P (cannot comment on streetwalkers) react to dips in demand, you have not been reading about Thailand for long enough to have learned the old adage "T. I. T" (This is Thailand) which teaches the readers that the Thai concept of logic on how to react with lower demand doesn't correlate with what they teach you in Econ 101.

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/features/night-prowl-legendary-lechery-bernard-nite-owl-trink/

[QUOTE=Margaya;2427237]Coronavirus has certainly brought down the number of tourists and mongers by perhaps as much as 50% but neither the prices nor anything else has dropped. Hotels and girls still want same amount.

However what shocked me this time was the near complete disappearance of free lancers on Sukumvit road. I always loved to pick one or two girls from there but it was unbelievable this time. There were no more than 10 fuglies between asok and nana. That's it.

Just 10. I noticed decline from 200-300 to 1 bout 50-60 but ten? Nana area had some concentration of WGs around 9-10 pm, about 30-40 may be on.

Thursday but surprisingly numbers were down dramatically on Fri. And sat night. Beer garden was hopeless, tried several times. There were a total of two girls in front of grace hotel when I checked late in the evening. Good lord, what has happened to this place.

This is the first time I have to admit that I don't see any point in traveling to the other side of the world if this is what \Bangkok is going to become. I was extremely disappointed. Pattaya was much better and the saving grace.[/QUOTE]Street action has been reduced lately for sure. Two nights ago about 8:30 pm I saw no Vietnamese girls or more than 2-3 Thai girls on Soi 4 in front of Hillary 1 bar.

On the other hand, contrary to some reports, on my visit to Thermae last Friday or Saturday night (I forget which now) about 10:30 pm, the place was packed with girls and the usual mostly Asian customers.

One other observation: I still see the same 8-10 girls standing in front of the Nana Hotel sign that we have all seen standing there afternoon and evenings for the past few years. They must come in contact with more tourists and expats, intimately and just close enough to be touched and breathed on than healthcare workers come in contact with demonstrably sick patients.

Yet, there they are day after day, night after night, hail, hearty, healthy, smiling and reaching out to passersby same as always.

Empirical evidence that the risk in this environment is less than most think? Are these little troupers our inadvertent canaries in the coal mine? Time will tell.

[QUOTE=Catire;2427053]Oh and BTW. Japanese schlongs are apparently bigger these days.[/QUOTE]If that's true, they don't have those guys starring in their pornos. I watch Japanese porn a lot. The dudes have tiny dicks.

Not only Asians spreading the germs. Looks like Iran is spreading the virus. "Canada, Lebanon, and today also Kuwait, Oman, and Iraq, have all confirmed cases of travelers from Iran. " There have been reports of Iran having over 50 deaths but the country says it's only 12 to date. AFAIK lots of Iranians go to Thailand.

Italy has also passed all the Asian countries with cases, other than China and South Korea.

Most importantly, the Thailand Tourism Minister said there will be no more virus after Songkran as the hot weather will blow the virus away.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2427479]If that's true, they don't have those guys starring in their pornos. I watch Japanese porn a lot. The dudes have tiny dicks.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the Japanese have other qualities in mind when choosing porn cocks beyond just size? Aesthetics, symmetry, etc? .

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[QUOTE=Francesco24;2426897]Hi,

Do you maybe know the TF username of this girl?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think it is Sunisa. She is also on Tinder under the same name. On TF she was wearing a leopard print dress in the photo. Cute face with long straight black hair.