Kyiv

Playbill,

This is Ukraine, you need only ask. Viagra, cialis and levitra are pretty much all available. You may not find all three in one Apteka but generally you will find viagra in most, even the "hole-in-the-wall" outlets.

How long have you been here?

Uke,

Thanks for the reply. I'll give it a shot!

I've been in Kyiv off and on for a year and a half. But, mostly, my wife is here. That makes me very happy. But, it also means that Billy doesn't get to go out and play.

I'm trying to make the most of these three weeks while she's in the states. And just maybe Viagra will enhance playtime!

Bill

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]Top Models is only an aggregating service... [/QUOTE]

Thanks for taking the time for an extended answer. That was helpful.

Hi all, will be in Kyiv and Sevastopol (not at the same time) April 18th-May 12th.

Place your reservations now. :)

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Hi all, will be in Kyiv and Sevastopol (not at the same time) April 18th-May 12th.

Place your reservations now. :)[/QUOTE]I arrive in Kiev May 5 but will travel.

Please advise.

This is an important post. Slavic girls usually like to fuck people for pleasure, not only for money. Of course, it is necessary an interesting male too. Otherwise foreigners are always scammed, I mean the famous "100$/hour".

[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello All,

As the missus has gone to her parents for a week I wasted no time in hunting new game.

Bumped in to Lena and Dasha as above in Avalon, (they send their regards) but as they were chatting with 2 guys and I had a few girls at my own table we agreed to talk again at 3am and if both of us were free we'd go to my place for a 3some for $50 each. They are in fact a couple and want to move in to an apartment together which made the session very real.

Sure enough, 3am and they arrive alone so we head off to my place. I wasn't exactly free but didn't want to pass this chance.

Have to say Dr. , they were super and thanks for the ground work that night. The thin one had your name written all over her. Waiflike skinny, whereas the brunette was just my type. Super tits and a great ass.

Although the crisis has reduced prices, these girls have a great attitude and as they have just left I realise. The money was almost a bonus for them, they found a place to fuck.

IL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Hi all, will be in Kyiv and Sevastopol (not at the same time) April 18th-May 12th.

Place your reservations now. :)[/QUOTE]

Keep me posted on our favorite secret place. God how I miss that place.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]This is an important post. Slavic girls usually like to fuck people for pleasure, not only for money. Of course, it is necessary an interesting male too. Otherwise foreigners always are scammed, I mean the famous "100$/hour".[/QUOTE]What do you want to say that in your Italy girls don't fuck around for pleasure? In your posts you mention prices for p4p in Italy from russian and ukrainian girls. Didn't check all your posts but I didn't see you say those russian and ukrainina girls in Italy fucked you for pleasure - correct me if I'm wrong.

In FSU there is opinion that every Italian is married to former or present prostitute which still fucks around both for money and pleasure.

Foreigners are scammed everywhere but this is only if they give somebody opportunity to scamm them. In Ukraine it is simple - somebody will have the necessary skills (like knowing the language) to get sex for free, while for others the only option will be to pay.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]This is an important post. Slavic girls usually like to fuck people for pleasure, not only for money. [/QUOTE]
Wrong.
This is just the opposite, a very famous Russian said in TV:
"We have the most beautiful women in the world. They sleep with the men because of their money; and they love them because of their poems".
Mr. Sadornov (because he is a very honarable Russian, he did not say "fuck" -)

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Wrong.
This is just the opposite, a very famous Russian said in TV:
"We have the most beautiful women in the world. They sleep with the men because of their money; and they love them because of their poems".
Mr. Sadornov (because he is a very honarable Russian, he did not say "fuck" -)[/QUOTE]I like that.

Do you think 50$ is money for fuck? I read here people fuck for 50$ or less, do you understand 50$ is less than the price of a dinner in a restaurant or an evening out? If you say 50$ is money for fuck, then do you mean all women are prostitutes? P.S. Why don't you read the quoted post?

[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Wrong.

This is just the opposite, a very famous Russian said in TV:

"We have the most beautiful women in the world. They sleep with the men because of their money; and they love them because of their poems".

Mr. Sadornov (because he is a very honarable Russian, he did not say "fuck".)[/QUOTE]

What do you mean? Explain:

[QUOTE=Kurenda]In FSU there is opinion that every Italian is married to former or present prostitute which still fucks around both for money and pleasure.[/QUOTE]About the remaining:

I see there is a very thin concept of contract. The relation between a prostitute and a customer is a contract and both people must comply to the contract and it is not normal when people try to cheat (scam) each other. This behaviour is necessary to avoid the jungle law.

Instead, about serious relationships, I am sure the filthiest people are who pretend to be friends or lovers just to get a somekind of convenience. I don't talk about plain sex, but about a friend or a lover relationship, when sex and money are a secondary need. If you think "naive" people deserve to be scammed, then everybody deserves to be scammed, because there is always somebody who is more sly than the others (Didn't Madoff teach anything? Maybe do you like people like Madoff, even if in a smaller size?).

Anyway, if you read last posts in this forum, then you find posts about all and the opposite of all, it depends what you want to read

[QUOTE=Kurenda] Foreigners are scammed everywhere but this is only if they give somebody opportunity to scamm them. In Ukraine it is simple. Somebody will have the necessary skills (like knowing the language) to get sex for free, while for others the only option will be to pay.[/QUOTE]

Otto you probably made a mistake. That should been said by Vladimir Sidorov
(not Sadornov) modern russian composer and poet. Sometimes uses pseudonim Vladimir Klin. I met him once in his town Magnitogorsk which is very polutted.
He was reffering to his former wife which left him for some rich oligarh and stayed with him untill he lost his money in 1998 stock collapse in Russia. Then she wanted to be again with Sidorov telling him she was with oligarh becuase of the money but always was in love with Sidorov because he's a great poet. Sidorov was smart enough not to take her back.

OK Sidorov (and all other Russians) think their women are the most beutiful in the world and Russians are the best people in the world. This is subject of big discussion.
Acolonizer when I said "In FSU there is opinion that every Italian is married to former or present prostitute which still fucks around both for money and pleasure" I meant exactly what I said. This is not thinking from like 100 years but from recent past. There are plenty prostitutes from Russia and Ukraine which married to Italian man which found them in Russian and also much more in Italy. In Russia people think that Italians don't mind if their wifes screw around becuase the Italian men are doing the same thing.

About Madoff I definitely don't like him. he's just another greedy jew who found a way to rip off money from people. There's pleanty of Madoffs everywhere you go. But I'm not comparing Madoff and being scammed in Ukraine. There not many chances somebody will be scammed for 50 billions in Ukraine. I just wanted to say if you found yourself in Ukraine (since this is forum about Ukraine) and you don't speak the language, don't know the mentality and local customs there are chances somebody will scamm you this way or another for 10, 20, or 100$.

And when you say "filthiest people are who pretend to be friends or lovers just to get a somekind of convenience" you are apsolutly right. People will stay together for various reasons: for love, for good sex or for money. But you must understand one thing. Since we talk about women here in Ukraine (and Russia) many of them simply separate their feelings from sex. A woman can be married and still have sex with other men. But for her it will be just sex and nothing more, she will keep her love and feelings for her husband. Next time when paying for p4p in Ukraine you can be sure after having sex with you the girl will go back to her boyfriend or husband and make him dinner and he will not have a clue where she's been and what she did. All right in some cases he will know and will tell her to give them the money so he can go out and drink with his friends.

This reminds me about talk show on ukrainian televison I saw. The guest was a famous Mila, Wiska or whatever her name is. Most probably some of you know her personally. She was the guest on that show along with her husband (they have two children) and her mother. And they all were proud of what she's doing and how she supports her family. The girl saw it all giving blowjobs for 20$ in the cars, 50$ street walker, high class prostitute for the local oligarhs, to being gang banged in numerous porn movies she filmed in Hungary. At the same show guest was a young married couple where husband came up with the plan. He will divorce her wife and she will find herself a huband in USA (old and with money), then divoce him, collecting as much money as possible, come back to Ukraine and marry her former husband once again and they will live happilly ever after. He was thrilled with his plan but the wife will not agree to it becuase she said she love her husband and if he really loved her he would never got those ideas.

Only wanted to say about mentallity of women in Ukraine but it is valid for anyother place as well.

Hey all,

I'm in kiev from Friday 27th to Monday 30th, be good to get together with any of the legends i'd read so much about on this thread. Feel free to PM.

[QUOTE=Kurenda]Otto you probably made a mistake. That should been said by Vladimir Sidorov
(not Sadornov) modern russian composer and poet.[/QUOTE]
Njet.
Sadornov said it during a New Years TV show, I saw couple of years ago in SPb.
But, in case you are American, I can understand, that you are not a real fan of him :-)
Of course, it might be, that Sadornov was referring to your story. Because timewise, it matches more or less.