[QUOTE=RioHeart;2437577]Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!
[URL]https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/curfew-on-tourists-foreign-and-thai-in-phuket[/URL][/QUOTE]Rio, the link doesn't work.
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[QUOTE=RioHeart;2437577]Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!
[URL]https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/curfew-on-tourists-foreign-and-thai-in-phuket[/URL][/QUOTE]Rio, the link doesn't work.
[QUOTE=RioHeart;2437577]Got kicked off the beach while eating my take away last night!
[URL]https://thet haiger.com/coronavirus/curfew-on-tourists-foreign-and-thai-in-phuket[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, that's more than inconvenient. I will write to her and ask again. The new domestic travel restrictions might prevent me from going anyway.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2437172]That's pretty much my price guideline also ET but some of our esteemed fellow co members feel this is way too much. They feel the girls, (hookers, WG) who take care of our needs are such worthless lazy illiterates that even the minimum wage of 300 baht a day is too much for their time. I also understand your consideration that service levels and delivery of what has been agreed should be a factor in what is paid. While we may not see eye to eye ET in what you need from the girls as best practice I agree with how you handle these situations. As always stay safe.[/QUOTE]I guess what is happening in my circle now is pretty much an example of "what the market bill bear" and, in a related way, "building better customer relations to survive during difficult times." Although I suspect you might strongly disagree with that latter way of putting it, Franciscass. And I understand your feelings about it. But this is what is happening right now, try as I might to overcome my baser instincts on the matter:
I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately. Seriously, I have more pussy and mouths being thrown at me now than at any time over the past several years. And several new ones as well, regular girls off the dating sites whose mall shops and restaurants have been shuttered. Girls who have never freelanced or step foot on lower Sukhumvit from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy.
Well, it turns out I can help 4-5 different girls per week earn enough money for them to cover their rent, electric, phone, public transportation and food in a month.
Guess which girls get the highest priority for this great good luck of an ongoing monthly survival income during these difficult times. Yep. The ones who kept their pussy shaved and delivered BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow to me. And it's the same requirement with any new ladies who wants a spot in the dugout and a chance at bat now or down the road.
The ones who gave me shit about any of that? Sorry, I've got no time for them. And no money for them. I suppose they can go to the airport and wait for the next incoming flight full of compliant potential customers who don't care about those kinds of things to arrive. It has turned out at least for now that decision on their part in the past has come back to bite them hard. According to their reaction to my declining the offer to see them now, that is.
Yes, I understand many will think this is a tough, unsympathetic approach to deciding which ones I will help with my time and my (also not exactly thriving all that great) money these days. But I really can't think of a way for me to contribute to the general economic welfare in this regard that will keep me contributing for a very long and with a proper attitude about it.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2437869]I guess what is happening in my circle now is pretty much an example of "what the market bill bear" and, in a related way, "building better customer relations to survive during difficult times." Although I suspect you might strongly disagree with that latter way of putting it, Franciscass. And I understand your feelings about it. But this is what is happening right now, try as I might to overcome my baser instincts on the matter:
I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately. Seriously, I have more pussy and mouths being thrown at me now than at any time over the past several years. And several new ones as well, regular girls off the dating sites whose mall shops and restaurants have been shuttered. Girls who have never freelanced or step foot on lower Sukhumvit from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy.
Well, it turns out I can help 4-5 different girls per week earn enough money for them to cover their rent, electric, phone, public transportation and food in a month.
Guess which girls get the highest priority for this great good luck of an ongoing monthly survival income during these difficult times. Yep. The ones who kept their pussy shaved and delivered BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow to me. And it's the same requirement with any new ladies who wants a spot in the dugout and a chance at bat now or down the road..[/QUOTE]Yup I imagine this is the holy grail for you ET and as you say while in my opinion your needs are not best practice and to be clear more so for you rather than the girls (you having regular testing, vasectomy etc posing little risk to the girls) you're living the dream.
I am sticking to the girls I know who are still in Bangkok. Some changes though no kissing and limiting close up face time to a minimum. Makes for some odd shagging routines and sometimes it has us both laughing our heads off.
Like you while obviously not altogether altruistic it's nice to feel I am helping out and I usually throw in a little more than usual. On top I have been helping a few regulars who have gone home and while it's not a lot their genuine appreciation is indeed heartwarming even if the tight fisted peel an orange in their pocket skeptics believe I am being taking for a idiot.
Stay safe and healthy.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2437869]I have gotten dozens of out of the blue Line messages from previous P4P and non P4P contacts lately.
[/QUOTE]Probably the same for many of us. I live in USA and over the last 2 weeks I've heard from 8 Thai girls, two of them date back to 2017. I chatted with the first 4, ignored the last 4. The first 4 wanted to see me, but 3 backed off when I told them I was away from Thailand (they all should have known). Only 1 asked directly for money.
Its a new world for everybody. The Thai P4 P and tourism industry is hurting as bad as any industry in the world.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2437889]Yup I imagine this is the holy grail for you ET and as you say while in my opinion your needs are not best practice and to be clear more so for you rather than the girls (you having regular testing, vasectomy etc posing little risk to the girls) you're living the dream.
I am sticking to the girls I know who are still in Bangkok. Some changes though no kissing and limiting close up face time to a minimum. Makes for some odd shagging routines and sometimes it has us both laughing our heads off.
Like you while obviously not altogether altruistic it's nice to feel I am helping out and I usually throw in a little more than usual. On top I have been helping a few regulars who have gone home and while it's not a lot their genuine appreciation is indeed heartwarming even if the tight fisted peel an orange in their pocket skeptics believe I am being taking for a idiot.
Stay safe and healthy.[/QUOTE]I can't say this situation has increased the number or percentage of new girls agreeing upfront to BBFS+CIP or a full and complete BJ for me. Not a Holy Grail event for me at all. I have only added a couple of new must see girls to my contact list who have done so, one minus the Swallow. Not a big issue or total deal killer by any means. I'll probably get around to her eventually. She just didn't make it to the Highest Priority list, that's all.
That kind of addition to the stable is no more than it normally was for me pre Covid-19. I am really focusing on the best girls for me who were already being repeated as favorites over the past few months. One goes back a couple of years of fairly regular repeats.
And then there are my 2-3 regular, non P4P girlfriends who, not the least surprising, are still refusing my money offers even though their regular jobs in shops, restaurants, malls and on photo shoots have been seriously negatively effected as well.
I get a sprinkling of messages from nearly forgotten girls in their outlying provinces now, good girls for me but who I haven't sessioned with for more than a year, who ask for "200 baht for food for my kids." Not mine. Lol. I'll transfer a bit more than that even though it is very likely I am one of 10-15 previous customers they contact for this every other day or whatever. No matter. There is a lasting heart-felt effect for getting relatively hassle-fee True GFE/Real Sex with these ladies that ought not go unappreciated even after the direct transaction was completed. Maybe I will taper off on that response over the next couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2438001]Probably the same for many of us. I live in USA and over the last 2 weeks I've heard from 8 Thai girls, two of them date back to 2017. I chatted with the first 4, ignored the last 4. The first 4 wanted to see me, but 3 backed off when I told them I was away from Thailand (they all should have known). Only 1 asked directly for money.
Its a new world for everybody. The Thai P4 P and tourism industry is hurting as bad as any industry in the world.[/QUOTE]And one has to wonder what the lasting effects will be. Will there be new regulations for venues? Will they use this outbreak as an excuse to crack down for good on P4 P? It remains to be seen. It certainly has changed my behavior. I've avoided the oilies for a few weeks even before things ramped up in Thailand as I knew many of the customers were Korean, Hong Kongers, etc. Also was not to keen on ST hotels then either. And as one with a sig other at home; my place is off. Been a long time without for me so far. Think it will be longer.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2438099]And one has to wonder what the lasting effects will be. Will there be new regulations for venues? Will they use this outbreak as an excuse to crack down for good on P4 P? It remains to be seen. It certainly has changed my behavior. I've avoided the oilies for a few weeks even before things ramped up in Thailand as I knew many of the customers were Korean, Hong Kongers, etc. Also was not to keen on ST hotels then either. And as one with a sig other at home; my place is off. Been a long time without for me so far. Think it will be longer.[/QUOTE]That's the most frustrating part, when does it get back to normal and what will that normal look like.
China and South Korea are the best exemplars of countries who are over their peaks but I keep hear more and more chatter about a so called second wave.
Personally I feel it will be at least mid-May earliest here before restrictions are lifted and then it will no more than a gradual easing.
I have to say this self-isolation is beginning to drag. While nowhere close to the reality I get a semblance of what doing time must feel like.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2438113]That's the most frustrating part, when does it get back to normal and what will that normal look like.
China and South Korea are the best exemplars of countries who are over their peaks but I keep hear more and more chatter about a so called second wave.
Personally I feel it will be at least mid-May earliest here before restrictions are lifted and then it will no more than a gradual easing.
I have to say this self-isolation is beginning to drag. While nowhere close to the reality I get a semblance of what doing time must feel like.[/QUOTE]I keep in contact with my nephew who works in the Health Department. When it comes to China and South Korea, they seem to have containment but without a vaccine or a real solution how to treat the virus at this time although a number of alternatives if they open things back up business, as usual, you might be back to square one? The reference has come up "second wave" the experts believe as warmer weather ahead like Flu the number start to drop but like Flu each year it comes back the hope by then there is a vaccine?
As for jail or doing time, have you done any well I have I can tell you "self-isolation" is nothing compared to doing time " self " means you aren't being forced if you cut gas you can open the window, doing time if Bubba your roommate does you got to suffer it out there is no window or anywhere to run to?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2438147]As for jail or doing time, have you done any well I have I can tell you "self-isolation" is nothing compared to doing time " self " means you aren't being forced[/QUOTE]I am about to take this chick home and go get me something to eat. Never heard someone doing time be able to say any of that.
Another chick told me that she was bored being inside. I told her she never goes out to do anything anyway, so what is the damn difference? She had to agree. She acts like she goes out to play golf or something on the regular.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2438147]I keep in contact with my nephew who works in the Health Department. When it comes to China and South Korea, they seem to have containment but without a vaccine or a real solution how to treat the virus at this time although a number of alternatives if they open things back up business, as usual, you might be back to square one? The reference has come up "second wave" the experts believe as warmer weather ahead like Flu the number start to drop but like Flu each year it comes back the hope by then there is a vaccine?
As for jail or doing time, have you done any well I have I can tell you "self-isolation" is nothing compared to doing time " self " means you aren't being forced if you cut gas you can open the window, doing time if Bubba your roommate does you got to suffer it out there is no window or anywhere to run to?[/QUOTE]Hi LittleBigMan,
No experts of any standing are saying warm weather will dispose of the virus. While respiratory in nature there the resemblance to a flu ends. That said as this is a novel strain and is not yet totally understood it is a possibility.
China while not back to where it was has experienced no local infections for about a week, those there are are imported, mostly returning Chinese students from the UK and US. Even in Wuhan they are allowing movement of people and stores are reopening.
A vaccine is by most expert opinion 18 months way I. E. Summer or autumn of 2021. More likely there will be some treatment before then, one possibility is the cloning of antibodies from recovered infected people.
As to self-isolation giving a semblance of what doing time is, of course it's nowhere near. I am free so essentially there is no comparison and I get it for anybody who has done time it is a nonsense to suggest I have the slightest idea what it is like. So my apologizes to anybody that has ever been banged up and taken offence, none was intended.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2438151]I am about to take this chick home and go get me something to eat. Never heard someone doing time be able to say any of that.
Another chick told me that she was bored being inside. I told her she never goes out to do anything anyway, so what is the damn difference? She had to agree. She acts like she goes out to play golf or something on the regular.[/QUOTE]Mr E you are one of a kind, and I got to admit "you can't keep a good man down' suits you to a tee.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2438151]I am about to take this chick home and go get me something to eat. Never heard someone doing time be able to say any of that.
Another chick told me that she was bored being inside. I told her she never goes out to do anything anyway, so what is the damn difference? She had to agree. She acts like she goes out to play golf or something on the regular.[/QUOTE]You are right with these chicks it is all mental, they haven't lost a damn thing except a reduction in their paycheck which is way different than losing your freedom. We come from the West we have so much of it we take it for granted so a bit of isolation is nothing as far as I'm concern. When you are locked up can't even go out and smell the air you don't realize what you lost until you are let out and walk out the door the fresh air! Even today I haven't forgotten the first time I was locked up the metal bars door slammed and made contact on the other end.
Although I live here before this I never worried about getting sex there were months I went without the extras because it was available everywhere and anytime now with much of the door being close I've noticed getting a bit hornier? Just the other day I was sitting right outside KFC with my brother and cousins there was a chick selling cosmetics across from where we were sitting face was an average older lady but she was wearing a mini-skirt, heels, legs not really shapely all I could think about was having those legs on my shoulder while I went to town.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2438186]Although I live here before this I never worried about getting sex there were months I went without the extras because it was available everywhere and anytime now with much of the door being close I've noticed getting a bit hornier?[/QUOTE]What door is being closed? If anything the doggie door has been replaced by an airplane hangar door. And it is wide ass open. I am so tired of chicks. And every day I plan to spend alone a new one pops up.
I was minding my own business last night at 1 am when a chick as cute as a button hit me up on Thai Friendly. I had told all of my chicks (free and paid) that I just wanted to be alone tonight and had made it half way through the night alone. But when I saw her I said shit, I might be dead tomorrow. I better get this pussy now! I told her I would be there in 10 minutes.
Before taking her home today I told her to tell her roommate I was about to bring her home and the roommate should be ready to come back with me. She said really? Now I have never seen the roommate or anything, but you know I like to talk shit.
So I dropped her off and handed her 1000 baht. She wanted to put the helmet in the back compartment. I told her to just keep it and give it to her roommate when she comes out. She said are you serious? She said you can take any girl, but you can not take my friend. I said why not? You have money now. You do not want your friend to get money too? She said no. I took the helmet from her and drove off laughing. She hit me later saying she missed me.
Its no brainier that many P4P girls are messaging now a days for money "urgently".
One problem I have is this:
If I try stay in touch with girls during my almost a year of absence from Thailand, girls pester for $ as soon as you message them more than a couple of times a year.
If you don't message them, they change numbers in a year and I have to rebuild my harem. Obviously this becomes too much work during the few days of holidays when I am Thailand.
How do guys manage to stay high and dry and still have enough contacts to depend upon?