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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2439170]There's nothing wrong with paying 500 baht for ST. In some local low-end scenes for Thais, that was the price for years and still is. In the last few years, a one-and-done with the vast majority of PFP girls in the Farang scene been worth no more than 500-1000 baht anyway, regardless of how much they ask, and how much some tourists pay.
However, there's plenty wrong with making girls go bareback and compromising their health. Covid-19 might be unavoidable except by 100% abstinence, but HIV is easily preventable with condoms.[/QUOTE]Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?
Nobody on the planet who has become infected with or died from Covid-19 needed to have had sex with the carrier to get it. Or to have ever had sex with anyone in their lives (100% abstinence). Or to be naked near one. Or to even touch a carrier. It wasn't even necessary to be within a close enough proximity of a carrier to have a droplet from a cough or sneeze land on you.
In fact, the "carrier" of the virus might never have met someone sick from it or be sick from it himself.
Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439244]Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.[/QUOTE]Please provide the source. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439244]thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.[/QUOTE]But air does not sit still. It constantly moves around. So are we to believe the covid suspends itself in mid-space for hours without moving with the air? Or is it that infected Joe can breathe covid out down the street and it reaches me 200 meters away in 20 minutes with the movement of the air?
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2439326]Please provide the source. Thanks.
SS.[/QUOTE]You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.
[URL]https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0[/URL]
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439343]You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.
[URL]https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0[/URL][/QUOTE]Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439244]Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?[/QUOTE]
It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.
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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2439361]Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.
SS.[/QUOTE]How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2439470]It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.[/QUOTE]P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2439534]P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.[/QUOTE]The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.
In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.
And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.
I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439555]...In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant...[/QUOTE]Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:
[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/coronavirus-in-sewage-portended-covid-19-outbreak-in-dutch-city[/URL]
My point is, we don't know yet how the virus is shed or how people are infected. Cum could be part of it...
The important thing about infectivity that most epidemiologists ignore is viral load. A small exposure you can maybe fight off. but spending hours fucking, kissing, sweating, eating an infected person...!
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[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2439560]Probably, mostly but interestingly, Dutch scientists have found, ". SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is often excreted in an infected person's stool. ". Not likely to be a primary means of infection, but detectable:
[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/coronavirus-in-sewage-portended-covid-19-outbreak-in-dutch-city[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah, that would definitely mean the end of Rim Jobs.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439555]The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.
In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.
And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.
I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.[/QUOTE]Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439497]How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?[/QUOTE]Your version seemed a bit apocalyptic compared to the doctor's. A lot of variables involved and I'm sure many which are not fully explored and vetted. The good doctor must rely on his knowledge / experience associated with similar viruses, since COVID 19 is a new one. Accordingly, some of his information must rest solely on that, while some may be pure speculation. I have noted that, when delivering his briefings, he does "footnote" some of his statements on occasion. But, to get back to your question a tab more directly, your inclusion of a "particle" being on a piece of furniture and then ending up in one's respiratory system seems (to me) to be nearly impossible. Maybe I read it incorrectly. If so, please disregard.
Thanks again for the link. I like the doctor's briefings; I find him "authentic" and "authoritative".
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2439562]Might as well save the money and wank. Man, this is just awful.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the scene from Naked Gun.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_BPDi8Ems[/URL]
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2439555]The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin.............[/QUOTE]Add to that the customer's mouth touching the provider's skin. Then a session will go like this: You both enter the room and disrobe. She gives you a CBJ and you better get hard with that for the only other activity allowed after would be CFS most likely in a safe position like doggy. That's it.